Wikipedia:France-related topics notice board
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France Wikiportal
The Portal:France is an entry-point into France-related articles on the English Wikipedia. Selected articles, pictures and persons are changed monthly. For information on wikiportal maintenance, see Wikipedia:Portal/Directory.
There is also Portal:Paris for Paris-related articles.
Featured articles
The following France-related articles have become Featured articles, which means that they been identified as among the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community.
These articles have become featured articles and have appeared on the Main Page:
- Médecins Sans Frontières
- List of French monarchs
- Franks
- Armand Jean du Plessis, Cardinal Richelieu
- First Crusade
- Second Crusade
- French law on secularity and conspicuous religious symbols in schools
- Blaise Pascal
- Michel Foucault
- Louis XIV of France
- Battle of Normandy
- Battle of the Bulge
- Battle of the Somme (1916)
- War of the League of Cambrai
- War of the Spanish Succession
- World War I
- Samuel Beckett
- Joan of Arc
- Military history of France
- Western Front (World War I)
These articles have become featured articles:
- The Adventures of Tintin
- Olivier Messiaen
- Nicolas Sarkozy
- New Italian War of 1521 - notable for Francis I of France's defeat at Pavia
Featured article candidates
Following is a list of France-related featured article candidates. Please contribute toward making them featured articles by voting and copyediting to remedy potential objections.
Requests for peer review
Following is a list of France-related articles submitted for peer review (an important step toward becoming a featured article). Please contribute by copyediting to remedy potential objections.
Wikipedia Conventions
Proper names and titles
In Wikipedia article titles, French noble titles are currently listed in two different ways:
- in English translation (Duke of, Count of...) for historical figures and royalty most well-known by their English forms.
- in French for other cases, maintaining the French title spelling (seigneur, chevalier, marquis, duc, comte) and the de.
Furthermore, in the second case, capitalization is currently chaotic:
- in French with lowercase spelling: comtesse de, marquis de... (e.g. Marie de Rabutin-Chantal, marquise de Sévigné; Catherine de Vivonne, marquise de Rambouillet; Pierre de Bourdeille, seigneur de Brantôme; François Hédelin, abbé d'Aubignac; Jean François Paul de Gondi, cardinal de Retz; this is the correct form in French and is the form used in article titles on the French wiki)
- in French with capital spelling: Comtesse de, Marquis de... (e.g. Charles de Secondat, Baron de Montesquieu; Georges-Louis Leclerc, Comte de Buffon; Constantin-François de Chassebœuf, Comte de Volney; this is a Franco-English hybrid form which fits with capitalization rules of an English-user).
The current concensus is that all articles with French titles using de should have the title in lowercase. For more on these issues, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles).
City names
Where possible, articles on cities and communes in France should go under [[placename]]. Where disambiguation is needed, articles should use the "comma convention" and go under [[placename, département x]]. Thus Tours, but Duras, Lot-et-Garonne and Montreuil, Seine-Saint-Denis. Note that on the French wikipedia, disambiguation is done with the "parentheses convention" and cities appear as [[placename (département x)]]. (See also Wikipedia:Naming conventions (city names)).
Titles of works of art
In Wikipedia article titles, French titles are currently listed in several different ways:
- in English translation, if the work of art is well-known by its title in English
- in French (with redirects from the English title), if it is more well-known by its title in French.
Capitalization is currently chaotic. For consistency sake (and for esthetic reasons), it is suggested that the first word of the title after the definite (le, la, les, l') or indefinite (un, une, des) articles be capitalized, as well as any proper name or place name. Examples:
- La Peau de chagrin (not "La peau de chagrin" or "La Peau de Chagrin")
- L'Œuvre
- Le Ventre de Paris
Biographical data
For smaller communes, one should include the name of the French département after the town or city name.
Recently-created articles
The following recently-created articles have a France or Francophone related topic. Feel free to add to the list, by giving article title and creator of the article (items from recently-created articles may also be added to the "Did you know..." section of the French portal).
- First Employment Contract (created by Flamurai)
- DADVSI (created by David.Monniaux)
- French West India Company (created by Brian0918)
- Louis Pergaud (created by Jackyd101)
- NRJ Music Awards (translated from French Wikipedia by Endroit)
- Abbey of Fontenay (created by ALoan, part of a number of new World Heritage Sites pages)
- Anti-Sacrilege Act (created by Tazmaniacs)
- Gérald De Palmas (translated from French Wikipedia on Jul 29, 2006 by Endroit)
- French pop music (created on Jul 30, 2006 by Endroit). I just started this article, and I'm trying to make it France-oriented, to distinguish it from Belgian-pop & Canadian-pop musics. Also if possible, I'd like to incorporate it into Music of France article. Any help will be appreciated. Please discuss in Talk:French pop music or Talk:Music of France--Endroit 07:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Château de Saint-Germain-en-Laye, Château de Bellevue, Château de Madrid and others (created by ALoan, included on DYK main page)
- Bouchra Ghezielle and Bouabdallah Tahri stubs by me. - Darwinek 20:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
- Strasbourg astronomical clock (created by Schwilgue) - (needs to be wikified, and portions of Strasbourg Cathedral should be merged into it)
- Petit-Montrouge (translated from French Wikipedia by Mathew5000) (I had some difficulties with the translation; see Talk:Petit-Montrouge -- any help would be appreciated)
- List of usurpers (created by Eixo). Could someone who knows more about French history than I do help fill in?
Collaboration opportunities
French Collaboration Project
The French Collaboration Project (WP:FCP) is an effort to fill gaps in the English Wikipedia (on any topic, and not specifically France-related topics) through translation of high quality articles from the French Wikipedia and, generally, to improve the quality of articles in the English Wikipedia. The French Collaboration Project maintains both a list of High Priority Translations (that anyone is encouraged to work on at any time) and (chosen from this list) a selected Translation of the Month.
Articles selected for translation may be chosen from the French language Wikipedia Quality Articles or more generally from any French language articles judged solid, accurate, and free of copyright issues, and having no article or a basic stub page on the English Wikipedia. The aim is to develop, through widespread co-operative translation, featured-standard articles, or at least ones of high quality, on subjects which may not otherwise have been addressed on the English Wikipedia.
Translation/Missing Articles
In addition to requests listed on the French Collaboration Project (including their "collaboration of the month"), please consult the various subpages of Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles (and specifically Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/fr) and Wikipedia:Translation into English/French to find articles that have yet to be added to the English language wikipedia, or consult Wikipedia:Requested articles for articles that have been requested by users.
You may also add your own requests below. In some cases, it is helpful to see if the French Wikipedia already has the requested article.
User Requested Articles (feel free to add to the list):
- Culture
- Hinduism in France (compare to other pages by consulting Hinduism by country)
- Places:
- none at the moment
- People:
- List of French language authors - an excellent source of articles to be written.
- List of French artists - another excellent source of articles to be written.
- Michel Galabru - actor
France current events
You can contribute to the wikinews:Portal:France page on wikinews. This page catalogues key events in France.
Categories and category sorting
- Category:French writers - this is currently huge. Authors need to be placed on sub-pages and some categories made need to be created.
Stubs and stub sorting
There are many stubs at Category:France stubs that could use completion. Stubs may also be sorted into the following French categories:
- French stubs - {{France-stub}} - in general, this stub category should not be used if a better subcategory exists
- French people stubs - {{France-bio-stub}}
- French nobility stubs - {{France-noble-stub}}
- French writer stubs - {{France-writer-stub}}
- French musician stubs - {{France-musician-stub}}
- French composer stubs - {{France-composer-stub}}
- French musical group stubs - {{France-band-stub}}
- French singer stubs - {{France-singer-stub}}
- French business bio stubs - {{France-business-bio-stub}}
- French painter stubs - {{France-painter-stub}}
- French actor stubs - {{France-actor-stub}}
- French politician stubs - {{France-politician-stub}}
- French scientist stubs - {{France-scientist-stub}}
- French sportspeople stubs - {{France-sport-bio-stub}}
- French film stubs - {{France-film-stub}}
- French buildings and structures stubs - {{France-struct-stub}}
- French university stubs - {{France-university-stub}}
- France geography stubs ({{France-geo-stub}}
- Alsace geography stubs ({{Alsace-geo-stub}}
- Aquitaine geography stubs ({{Aquitaine-geo-stub}}
- Auvergne geography stubs ({{Auvergne-geo-stub}}
- Bourgogne geography stubs ({{Bourgogne-geo-stub}}
- Bretagne geography stubs ({{Bretagne-geo-stub}}
- Région Centre geography stubs ({{Centre-geo-stub}}
- Champagne-Ardenne geography stubs ({{Champagne-geo-stub}}
- Corsica geography stubs ({{Corsica-geo-stub}}
- Franche-Comté geography stubs ({{Franche-geo-stub}}
- Île-de-France geography stubs ({{IledeFrance-geo-stub}}
- Languedoc-Roussillon geography stubs ({{Languedoc-geo-stub}}
- Limousin geography stubs ({{Limousin-geo-stub}}
- Lorraine geography stubs ({{Lorraine-geo-stub}}
- Midi-Pyrénées geography stubs {{Pyrenees-geo-stub}}
- Nord-Pas-de-Calais geography stubs ({{PasdeCalais-geo-stub}}
- Basse-Normandie geography stubs ({{BasseNormandie-geo-stub}}
- Haute-Normandie geography stubs ({{Haute-Normandie-geo-stub}}
- Pays-de-la-Loire geography stubs ({{Loire-geo-stub}}
- Picardie geography stubs ({{Picardie-geo-stub}}
- Poitou-Charentes geography stubs ({{Poitou-geo-stub}}
- Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur geography stubs ({{Provence-geo-stub}}
- Rhône-Alpes geography stubs ({{RhoneAlpes-geo-stub}}
- French Polynesia geography stubs {{FrenchPolynesia-geo-stub}}
- French rail stubs - {{France-rail-stub}}
- French history stubs - {{France-hist-stub}}
The following articles have alleged problems with factual accuracy, copyright, lack of citations or neutrality. Articles based on the 11th edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica of 1911 are particularly problematic, due to their Victorian aesthetic pronouncements, outdated references and frequent Francophobia. See also Category:NPOV disputes. Note to contributors: summarize, in a neutral manner, the nature of the dispute here, but please keep the discussion on the talk pages.
- Napoleon I of France - see the discussion on Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Archived_nominations
Views of the French military - POV article about the french military, originally a section entitled "View of French military in the United States" in Military history of France.Entry was deleted through AfD Equendil Talk 21:30, 7 September 2006 (UTC)- Cannes Film Festival - dispute on mention of 1930 creation as in reaction to German fascism; article also includes an expansion tag.
- Anti-Sacrilege Act - recently created; does "elected under restricted census suffrage" express a POV, given that most 19th century French governments were elected in this way? Requests for mediation initiated.
- Encyclopédie -neutrality problems in the history section of the article (from the Britannica 1911) which tries to portray the Encyclopédie as essentially an English work pirated by evil Frenchmen using dubious legal proceedings to dispossess innocent English editors.
- 2005 civil unrest in France
- Front National (France)
- Economy of Paris - see discussion at Talk:Economy of Paris as well as this notice board's talk page. The dispute concerns use of the expression "Paris metropolitan area" vs. the actual city limits of Paris; accusation of possible original research.
The following articles have been tagged for cleanup (ungrammatical, poorly formatted, confusing, etc.). This may require some copy editing, wikifying and correction of English usage; sometimes a major rewrite is needed. Articles based on the 11th edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica of 1911 are particularly problematic, due to their outdated English. Please add to the list, and include the clean-up date if indicated. See also Category:All pages needing cleanup.
- Antoine de la Sale - August 2005
- French rock - November 2005
- Human rights in France - December 2005
- Alexis de Tocqueville - April 2006
The following articles are in need of expansion. See also Category:Articles to be expanded. Feel free to add to the list:
- Vichy - could be expanded by translation from fr wiki
- Iran-France relations
- French literature of the 18th century
- Contemporary French literature
- Economic history of France
- French culture
- French art - (all centuries)
Templates
- Template:French literature (small) - needs to be placed on French author/lit pages
Requests for pictures
- Iran-France relations - Map, photographs showing relations (ideals would include: the Shah/Chat incedent & Napoleon+Qajars)
User boxes
- Template:User French history - "This user is interested in the history of France"
- Template:User Napoleon interested - "This user is interested in Napoleon"
Related Projects
- Wikipedia:WikiProject French communes - This WikiProject is an attempt to formulate a template for the French communes and to eventually create an article for each of the 36,782 communes.
- Wikipedia:WikiProject Paris Streets - A project to create a small article (if possible) for every notable street in Paris, including a description of its creation date, name, past names, mouths (from/into what street), visual description (new constructions, old, winding, narrow, cobblestoned, etc) with (if possible) a photo.
Members
The following is a list of Wikipedians who are either French, or speak French, or live in France or in a Francophone country, or are working on France-related articles. Feel free to add or remove yourself from this list. It is recommended that you add this page to your watchlist.
There are also category lists of Wikipedians in France, French Wikipedians and French speaking Wikipedians. You can join these list by inserting one of the relevant templates on your userpage.
Active Members
- NYArtsnWords (talk)
- Durova raised Joan of Arc to FA, raised Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc to FLC (in progress) Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc.
- MPD01605 (talk) very interested.
- Nicobrown4589 (talk)
- User:kessler
- Brian
- ThePromenader
Inactive Members
- None