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'''Scorpio''' is the eighth [[astrological sign]] in the [[Zodiac]], originating from the [[Scorpius|constellation of Scorpius]]. In [[western astrology]], the sign is no longer aligned with the constellation as a result of the [[Precession (astronomy)|precession of the equinoxes]]. Scorpio is considered a [[water sign]], and is one of four [[fixed sign]]s.<ref> Jeff Mayo, ''Teach Yourself Astrology'', pp 38-41, Hodder and Stoughton, London, 1979 </ref> Like the rest of the watery signs, Scorpio is considered a "[[negative sign|negative]]", feminine sign, which in [[Astrology]] means it is rather [[Extraversion and introversion|introvert]].


Individuals born when the [[Sun (astrology)|Sun]] was in this sign are considered Scorpio individuals. Under the [[tropical zodiac]], the Sun enters Scorpio around
[[October 23]]<ref name="Astrology.com">{{cite web |title=Astrology.com|url=http://horoscopes.astrology.com/dailygemini.html}}</ref>-[[October 24|24]]<ref name="astrologyonline"/>
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and exits around [[November 21]]<ref name="Astrology.com"/>-[[November 22|22]].<ref name="astrologyonline"/>
Under the [[Sidereal astrology|sidereal zodiac]], it is currently there roughly from [[November 16]] through [[December 15]]. People born on these juncture dates would have to have an [[horoscope|astrological chart]] drawn if they wished to determine which sign the sun was in at the exact time of their birth.


== Astrological qualities and associations ==


Being a [[water sign]], Scorpio is considered highly passionate, imaginative, determined, persevering, inflexible and self-confident.
I've just semi-protected it for a week. Let's see how we get on after that. --[[User:Roger Davies|<font color="maroon">'''R<small>OGER</small>&nbsp;D<small>AVIES'''</small></font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|'''talk''']]</sup> 17:54, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


Traditionally, the planet [[planets in astrology#Mars|Mars]] has been considered to be the [[Domicile (astrology)|ruler]] of Scorpio, and since its discovery, [[planets in astrology#Pluto|Pluto]] has been considered a modern ruler of this sign. Some modern astrologers consider Pluto to be a more appropriate ruler over the sign, citing the reason for Mars having initially ruled the sign being that Pluto had not yet been discovered.<ref>Robert Hand, ''Horoscope Symbols'', pp 229 - 230, Robert Hand, 1981. "Mars was the traditional ruler of Scorpio before the discovery of Pluto, but this seems to be one of the worst sign-ruler affinities."</ref> In 2006 Pluto was reclassified by astronomers as a "[[dwarf planet]]", and therefore is no longer considered a planet ''in astronomy'', although this has not reduced its significance to astrologers as the modern ruler of Scorpio.


As the eighth sign in the zodiac, Scorpio is associated with the astrological [[House (astrology)|house]] number 8, which is associated with natural Scorpio matters - birth, death, transformation, deeply committed relationships of all kinds, and the occult and psychic matters. [http://www.astrology.com/aboutastrology/interpreting/houses/house8.html]


==Mythology==
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{{see also|Scorpius#Mythology}}
In [[mythology]] Scorpio is often associated with [[Hades]], Lord of the Underworld, who was known in Roman mythology as [[Pluto (mythology)|Pluto]], and [[Orpheus]] from the [[Greek mythology|Greek myth]] of Orpheus and [[Eurydice]]. Scorpio is also associated with the Greco-Roman [[gods]] [[Ares]]/[[Mars (mythology)|Mars]]. The constellation is also associated with the scorpion that killed [[Orion (mythology)|Orion]].


==Associated traits==
Astrologers broadly agree that the following are the characteristics of Scorpio:


* Intense <ref name="elore">according to [http://www.elore.com/Astrology/Study/scorpio.htm elore.com]</ref><ref name="astrologyonline">according to [http://www.astrology-online.com/scorpio.htm Astrology-online.com]</ref>
==Infobox==
Why have you demanded that Emily Dickinson's page not have an infobox? Virtually all other authors, political figures, philosophers, etc. have them. - User Jajhill 05:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


* Powerful <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/><ref name="oken">Alan Oken. ''Alan Oken's Complete Astrology'' Revised Edition, 1988. ISBN 0-553-34537-0, pages 118-128</ref>
:What does it add? --[[User:Roger Davies|<font color="maroon">'''R<small>OGER</small>&nbsp;D<small>AVIES'''</small></font>]]&nbsp;<sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|'''talk''']]</sup> 07:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


* Determined / tenacious / persevering <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
:Exactly, Roger. I can see the merits of an infobox on a much smaller and less comprehensive article in which important aspects of the individual's life have yet to be mentioned. I'm not against infoboxes all together because I believe they serve a purpose in some instances. In regards to this article in particular, however, ''everything'' that an infobox would provide can be found in the lead and throughout the article, making that infobox superfluous. Furthermore, infoboxes are not mandatory; just because most articles include them does not mean that we must. <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 15:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)


* Emotional / sensitive <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
No, not everything is covered in the first paragraph of the article that would be found in an infobox. For example, certain poets who influenced her and poets she influenced are not mentioned in the first paragraph. Nor does it name her debut poem that she published, the paragraph just eludes to it rather than being specific. And I'd like an explanation as to what infoboxes remove from articles. - User Jajhill 09:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


* Calm but seething <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
:They remove a professional look to the page. To show the same information twice at the beginning of the article is redundant. The question of influences is complex, and it is superficial to reduce it to a list. [[User:Qp10qp|qp10qp]] ([[User talk:Qp10qp|talk]]) 13:57, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


* Reserved / withdrawn <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
::qp10qp is correct about the question of Dickinson's influences; most of what is described in the article about what literature had an impact on her is surmise and therefore subject to debate and speculation. I have difficulty with the "Influenced" and "Influences" fields in an infobox because it is almost always [[WP:OR|original research]] by way of synthesis, but in this case in particular only a few things can be said for certain. To include in an ugly infobox that Dickinson was influenced by the Bible and Shakespeare is ridiculous; who wasn't during that time period? As to the issue of her "debut poem", I believe that is somewhat debatable, as well, and not truly noteworthy. What is important to note that very few of her poems were published during her lifetime and all of them were edited and altered -- this information ''is'' noted in the lead. <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 16:29, 23 February 2008 (UTC)


* Secretive <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
:::I must disagree with [[User:Qp10qp|qp10qp]]. A properly laid-out infobox ''adds'' professionalism to the page. The table of contents is what removes a professional look; it breaks up the flow of the article and creates a lot of unnecessary whitespace. An infobox provides information to our readers in an easy-to-understand manner. That's what an encyclopedia is supposed to do, is it not? The infobox is not intended to replace the article, rather to attract the reader and influence them to read the rest of the article for details not contained in the infobox. An infobox also improves the overall professional look of Wikipedia by providing a consistent look-and-feel to articles. Yes, articles are not required to have an infobox. It does help though. [[User:Truthanado|Truthanado]] ([[User talk:Truthanado|talk]]) 04:00, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


* Deep / profound <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
::::"Professional" is a subjective term and (unfortunately, IMO), I believe some tend to mistake standardization for professionalism. I see your point, but I hold to my opinion that an infobox is unnecessary. As for the TOC, when it is forced to the right side of the page, for example, the article looks jumbled, cramped and sloppy. It may look differently on your monitor, but on mine it's a big 'ol mess. :) I guess in that regard I'm ''for'' standardization, who knew? <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 04:14, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


* Passionate / sexual<ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/><ref name="intsign" />
:::::For the record, I like the page better without an infobox. I think they make pages look like the [[Guinness Book of World Records]]. I prefer not to have factoid summaries for people like Emily Dickinson. –&nbsp;[[User:Scartol|<span style="color:#060">Scartol</span>]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User_talk:Scartol|<span style="color:#060"><small>Tok</small></span>]] 12:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


* Loyal / devotional <ref name="elore"/><ref name="oken"/>
::::::I wonder what Emily Dickinson would say about all the fuss about the format of her Wikipedia article. Infobox or no? Normal ToC or right ToC? Whitespace or no? Just wondering. BTW, would it hurt to have a very simple infobox with her name, picture and birth/death dates? [[User:Truthanado|Truthanado]] ([[User talk:Truthanado|talk]]) 00:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


* Ambitious <ref name="elore"/><ref name="oken"/>
::::::: One problem here is that infoboxes automatically center-justify captions. When you're lead image has a significant and encyclopedic caption, the way this one does, it does look rather unappealing in the infobox. The center justification only really makes visual sense on short captions. I have to say that the right aligned TOC does look really nice on my monitor, but if you manually shrink the size of your browser you can see the formatting errors it causes. The right aligned TOC would work well in an article without a picture in the first section. --[[User:JayHenry|JayHenry]] ([[User talk:JayHenry|talk]]) 01:11, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


* Extreme <ref name="elore"/><ref name="oken"/>
==Blackmur quote==


* Willful / fanatical <ref name="elore"/><ref name="astrologyonline"/>
It strikes me as disproportionately long. [[User:Qp10qp|qp10qp]] ([[User talk:Qp10qp|talk]]) 03:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


* Mysterious / magnetic <ref name="astrologyonline"/><ref name="oken"/>
:Already been taken care of. :) <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 13:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)


* Deeply resentful / brooding / potentially destructive <ref name="astrologyonline"/><ref name="oken"/>
==Information removed from article==
This was added to the "Teenage years" section, but I have removed it for several reasons:


''Between 1846 and 1852, Emily Dickinson experienced serious problems with her health, specifically a chronic cough, fatigue, and significant weight loss. Extracting clinical clues from her correspondence, some historians have suggested that she was suffering from tuberculosis (Hirschhorn, 1999). That year, Emily sought treatment with a highly respected homeopath, Dr. William Wesselhoeft<ref>http://www.geocities.com/seekingthephoenix/d/emily.htm</ref> in Boston (St. John, n.d.; Hirschhorn, 1999). Emily wrote that he prescribed two homeopathic medicines for her. She didn’t think that the medicines were effective, but her older and more practical sister, Lavina, thought otherwise.''


Scorpio is the [[Zodiac]] sign that indicates the deepest interest in sexual matters, and for most Scorpios, sex is an expression of love. <ref> The Diagram Group, ''The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac'', p 167, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997 </ref>
''Lavina (who originally referred Emily and their brother Austin to Dr. Wesselhoeft because he was her homeopath) asserted just two weeks after homeopathic treatment: “I think Emily may be very much improved. She has really grown fat.” Because Emily was always extremely thin, this statement of her gaining weight suggests some health improvements. Her brother Austin wrote Emily’s closest friend, Susan Gilbert: “He [their father] says Emily is better than for years since she returned from Boston” (Thomas, 1988, 219). And lending further support to the real benefits from the homeopathic treatment, within several months, she no longer complained about the chronic cough that she had experienced for five years.<ref>http://www.emilydickinson.org/search.html?query=homeopathic&submit=Search%21&metaname=swishdefault&sort=swishrank</ref> <ref>http://www.homeopathicrevolution.com/pages/excerpt.jsp</ref>''


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For one, the sources are either not elaborated on (Thomas, Hirschhorn) or simply not reliable (Geocities); the links to the Emily Dickinson archive are not the more reliable because they require registration. There are also several incorrect assertions, such as the fact that Lavinia was the older sister; she was three years younger than Emily.
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| Likes || activity, mysteries, secrets, winning, being acknowledged, strategy, <ref> The Diagram Group, ''The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac'', pp 169-172, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997 </ref>
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| Dislikes || being analyzed, being asked personal questions, people who think they know more than Scorpios do, too many compliments, having to trust a stranger. <ref> The Diagram Group, ''The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac'', pp 169-172, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997 </ref>
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| Suitable occupations || Anything involving deep analysis, investigation, research or the solving of mysteries, such as detective, scientist, researcher, market analyst <ref name="elore"/> • [[Medicine]] professions such as [[pathologist]] or surgeon <ref name="elore"/> • member of the armed service or police, a politician, a lawyer, <ref name="elore"/> • business owner <ref> The Diagram Group, ''The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac'', pp 169-172, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997 </ref> • psychologist <ref name="elore"/><ref name="intsign">[http://www.signsofintelligence.com/signs/scorpio.html signsofintelligence.com]</ref>
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== Compatibilities ==
Please do not add this information back until it has been discussed. Thanks! <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 13:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
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Although many mainstream astrology books do not bother with superficial [[sun sign astrology|sun-sign]] compatibilities, Scorpio is still widely thought to be compatible with the [[water sign|watery signs]],
[[Pisces (astrology)|Pisces]]<ref name="encyzodiac">The Diagram Group, ''The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac'', p 171, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997 </ref><ref name="Astrology-online Quick">[http://www.astrology-online.com/quick.htm Astrology-online.com Quick Compatibility Guide]</ref>,
[[Cancer (astrology)|Cancer]].<ref name="encyzodiac"/><ref name="Astrology-online Quick"/>
and Libra (example: "That Girl" episode when a dating show is held, known compatible for a Scorpio -- Ann -- and a Libra -- Don.).
Its relationship with [[Taurus (astrology)|Taurus]] is often considered passionate, but rather complicated.<ref>according to Astrology.com's [http://love.astrology.com/features/astrology/lovematch/taurusscorpio.html Taurus-Scorpio love compatibility]</ref><ref name="Astrology-online Quick"/>


There are many variables that determine compatibility in astrology, such as birth dates, birth months, birth years, position of a sign within the Sun, the Moon, Stars, etc. The signs listed as compatible with Scorpio do not reflect an ''individual profile'' or ''individual reading'' as interpreted within astrology, but rather reflect a general guideline and reference to compatibility as dictated by variables such as ''Qualities'' and ''Elements'' within the [[Zodiac]]. <ref name="encyzodiac"/>
:I concur. Please do not add that information unless it can substantiate the article. --[[User:DavidD4scnrt|DavidD4scnrt]] ([[User talk:DavidD4scnrt|talk]]) 10:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


==Correspondences==
::This was a while ago, so I'm sure it's long forgotten now. All of what was added appears to be copy-and-pasted from (factually incorrect, as I pointed out above) Google Books, so whether or not it "substantiates" is immaterial, really. ;) <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 12:53, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
The following items are traditionally associated with Scorpio: <ref> Derek and Julia Parker, ''The New Compleat Astrologer'', pp194-5, Crescent Books , New York, 1990 </ref> <ref> Linda Goodman's , ''Sun Signs'', Bantam Books, 1984 </ref>
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* In [[medical astrology]] Scorpio governs the reproductive system and sexual organs.<ref name="elore"/> <ref> Linda Goodman's , ''Sun Signs'', Bantam Books, 1984 </ref>
==[[Identification of Emily Dickinson poems]]==
Maybe someone could take a look at that article. Should it be in a "See also" section? '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 05:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


* Scorpio is associated with the following animals: Scorpion, Wolf, Eagle, Phoenix, Gray Lizard.
:I'm not sure; it's a very old article (written in 2004 and little updated since then), the information is unsourced, and most of what is stated there is already said here on the main article. It could use a healthy expansion in order to be significant enough for a "See also", but I'd like to hear other opinions on this. Should it be prodded, perhaps? <span style="font-family:verdana">[[User:Yllosubmarine|María]] </span><small>([[User talk:Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">habla</span>]] con[[Special:Contributions/Yllosubmarine|<span style="color:green">migo</span>]])</small> 11:13, 25 April 2008 (UTC)


* In [[Tarot]], Scorpio is associated with the [[Death (Tarot card)|Death]] card, specifically as a form of regeneration. <ref> The Diagram Group, ''The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac'', p 158, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997 </ref>
::If it's already in the main article, I agree with prod. '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 01:45, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


* The [[Jyotish|Indian]] equivalent of Scorpio is '''Vrishchika'''. The [[Chinese astrology|Chinese]] equivalent is thought to be the strong, resolute [[Pig (zodiac)|Pig]], whose lunar month is 8 November - 6 December. <ref> Theodora Lau, ''The Handbook of Chinese Horoscopes'', pxxvii, Souvenir Press, London, 2005 </ref>
== Congratulations! ==


==References==
Congratulations to the primary editors of this article, who got it up to Featured Article status! I dipped in some time back and added material about Dickinson's green thumbs based on a newspaper article that I had read, as well as some photographs. I'm delighted to see how much better the article is now. — Cheers, [[User:Jacklee|<span style="color:#ce2029">Jack</span><span style="color:#800000">'''Lee'''</span>]] <sup>&ndash;[[User talk:Jacklee|talk]]&ndash;</span></sup> 16:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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==External links==
== Later Life and 'Master' ==
* [http://www.astrology-online.com/scorpio.htm Astrology-online on Scorpio]
* [http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Scorpio Scorpio In-Depth]
* [http://www.elore.com/Astrology/Study/scorpio.htm Elore on Scorpio]
* [http://www.novareinna.com/constellation/scorpio.html Novareinna.com on Scorpio]
* [http://www.tomorrowsedge.net/scorpio-child.html The Scorpio Child]


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"Otis Phillips Lord, an elderly judge on the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court from Salem, in 1872 or 1873, became an acquaintance of Dickinson's, and her last Master. After the death of Lord's wife in 1877, his friendship with Dickinson probably became a late-life romance, though as their letters were destroyed, this is surmise." -- from the 'Later Life' section.


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Two things: First, the capitalized use of "Master" isn't all that clearly explained, and seems to imply that the Master poems/letters may have been written in part to Lord. I didn't examine your source, but I'm sure that I can cite credibly people who strongly disagree. Second, 'surmise' appears to be used incorrectly here, in a sentence with rather awkward syntax I might add. I surmise that you mean to use 'surmised.'


[[ar:برج العقرب]]
I have a vague sense of how wikipedia works; One or two people adopt an article, essentially acting as its editors. This authority, conferred by some amalgam of persistence and territoriality is based less on their real-world qualifications than those in wikidom. So permit me to suggest with all due deference that if the draconian overlords of this article could revise this section, It might improve matters.
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Scorpio is the eighth astrological sign in the Zodiac, originating from the constellation of Scorpius. In western astrology, the sign is no longer aligned with the constellation as a result of the precession of the equinoxes. Scorpio is considered a water sign, and is one of four fixed signs.[2] Like the rest of the watery signs, Scorpio is considered a "negative", feminine sign, which in Astrology means it is rather introvert.

Individuals born when the Sun was in this sign are considered Scorpio individuals. Under the tropical zodiac, the Sun enters Scorpio around October 23[3]-24[4] and exits around November 21[3]-22.[4] Under the sidereal zodiac, it is currently there roughly from November 16 through December 15. People born on these juncture dates would have to have an astrological chart drawn if they wished to determine which sign the sun was in at the exact time of their birth.

Astrological qualities and associations

Being a water sign, Scorpio is considered highly passionate, imaginative, determined, persevering, inflexible and self-confident.

Traditionally, the planet Mars has been considered to be the ruler of Scorpio, and since its discovery, Pluto has been considered a modern ruler of this sign. Some modern astrologers consider Pluto to be a more appropriate ruler over the sign, citing the reason for Mars having initially ruled the sign being that Pluto had not yet been discovered.[5] In 2006 Pluto was reclassified by astronomers as a "dwarf planet", and therefore is no longer considered a planet in astronomy, although this has not reduced its significance to astrologers as the modern ruler of Scorpio.

As the eighth sign in the zodiac, Scorpio is associated with the astrological house number 8, which is associated with natural Scorpio matters - birth, death, transformation, deeply committed relationships of all kinds, and the occult and psychic matters. [1]

Mythology

See also: Scorpius § Mythology

In mythology Scorpio is often associated with Hades, Lord of the Underworld, who was known in Roman mythology as Pluto, and Orpheus from the Greek myth of Orpheus and Eurydice. Scorpio is also associated with the Greco-Roman gods Ares/Mars. The constellation is also associated with the scorpion that killed Orion.

Associated traits

Astrologers broadly agree that the following are the characteristics of Scorpio:

  • Determined / tenacious / persevering [6][4]
  • Deeply resentful / brooding / potentially destructive [4][7]


Scorpio is the Zodiac sign that indicates the deepest interest in sexual matters, and for most Scorpios, sex is an expression of love. [9]

Attributes
Likes activity, mysteries, secrets, winning, being acknowledged, strategy, [10]
Dislikes being analyzed, being asked personal questions, people who think they know more than Scorpios do, too many compliments, having to trust a stranger. [11]
Suitable occupations Anything involving deep analysis, investigation, research or the solving of mysteries, such as detective, scientist, researcher, market analyst [6] • Medicine professions such as pathologist or surgeon [6] • member of the armed service or police, a politician, a lawyer, [6] • business owner [12] • psychologist [6][8]

Compatibilities

Although many mainstream astrology books do not bother with superficial sun-sign compatibilities, Scorpio is still widely thought to be compatible with the watery signs, Pisces[13][14], Cancer.[13][14] and Libra (example: "That Girl" episode when a dating show is held, known compatible for a Scorpio -- Ann -- and a Libra -- Don.). Its relationship with Taurus is often considered passionate, but rather complicated.[15][14]

There are many variables that determine compatibility in astrology, such as birth dates, birth months, birth years, position of a sign within the Sun, the Moon, Stars, etc. The signs listed as compatible with Scorpio do not reflect an individual profile or individual reading as interpreted within astrology, but rather reflect a general guideline and reference to compatibility as dictated by variables such as Qualities and Elements within the Zodiac. [13]

Correspondences

The following items are traditionally associated with Scorpio: [16] [17]

Birthstone Opal, Topaz
Colors Black ; Dark Red[6] ; Maroon[6]
Gemstone Opal [6] ; Bloodstone ; Onyx ; Jasper
Metal Iron[6] ; Steel[6] ; Magnesium
Countries North Africa: Egypt, Syria,[6] Algeria,[6] Morocco
  • Scorpio is associated with the following animals: Scorpion, Wolf, Eagle, Phoenix, Gray Lizard.
  • In Tarot, Scorpio is associated with the Death card, specifically as a form of regeneration. [19]
  • The Indian equivalent of Scorpio is Vrishchika. The Chinese equivalent is thought to be the strong, resolute Pig, whose lunar month is 8 November - 6 December. [20]

References

  1. ^ Astronomical Applications Department 2011.
  2. ^ Jeff Mayo, Teach Yourself Astrology, pp 38-41, Hodder and Stoughton, London, 1979
  3. ^ a b "Astrology.com".
  4. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n according to Astrology-online.com
  5. ^ Robert Hand, Horoscope Symbols, pp 229 - 230, Robert Hand, 1981. "Mars was the traditional ruler of Scorpio before the discovery of Pluto, but this seems to be one of the worst sign-ruler affinities."
  6. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y according to elore.com
  7. ^ a b c d e f Alan Oken. Alan Oken's Complete Astrology Revised Edition, 1988. ISBN 0-553-34537-0, pages 118-128
  8. ^ a b signsofintelligence.com
  9. ^ The Diagram Group, The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac, p 167, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997
  10. ^ The Diagram Group, The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac, pp 169-172, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997
  11. ^ The Diagram Group, The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac, pp 169-172, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997
  12. ^ The Diagram Group, The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac, pp 169-172, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997
  13. ^ a b c The Diagram Group, The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac, p 171, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997
  14. ^ a b c Astrology-online.com Quick Compatibility Guide
  15. ^ according to Astrology.com's Taurus-Scorpio love compatibility
  16. ^ Derek and Julia Parker, The New Compleat Astrologer, pp194-5, Crescent Books , New York, 1990
  17. ^ Linda Goodman's , Sun Signs, Bantam Books, 1984
  18. ^ Linda Goodman's , Sun Signs, Bantam Books, 1984
  19. ^ The Diagram Group, The Little Giant Encyclopedia of The Zodiac, p 158, Sterling Publishing Company, New York, 1997
  20. ^ Theodora Lau, The Handbook of Chinese Horoscopes, pxxvii, Souvenir Press, London, 2005

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