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Re: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Zombina and The Skeletones - Deletion Review Hi Wizardman, It seems I'm supposed to contact you (the deleting administrator), before going through the deletion review procedure... I wasn't actually informed of the deletion (typical! Even though i had quite a few edits to them (Was noted about the dispution of license in response to the images)), so didn't actually know they were up for deletion until they were gone (was not really on WP much at that point) I am after seeing if you would agree to undelete the article (and probably the albums, however, the notability of those is a bit more iffy). I am happy enough to do the undeletion myself. You didn't actually comment in the deletion, just close and delete the articles. To counter the first 3 points regarding notability of the band. Per WP:MUSIC "A musician or ensemble (note that this includes a band, singer, rapper, orchestra, DJ, musical theatre group, etc.) is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:" The Band at least meets these 2 criteria: Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network. And possibly some of the others. [1] - They were a feature band of a Radio 2 session back in 2005. The BBC itself asserts enough notability and international credability, and with the tracks being played, it therefore means they meet the criteria. They have also been featured in various magazines, and played at large festivals around europe Granted, i will agree that the articles werent brilliant, and not the best sourced. If we can get it undeleted, I'm going to work on improving it, getting it better and properly sourced. And then for images, the band have said they will deal with the licensing, and sort that out if necessary Thanks —Reedy 19:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks! —Reedy 08:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Any updates? —Reedy 19:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC) Cheers. Im not 100% sure about the albums too yet. —Reedy 21:45, 9 August 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kelley Gulledge You closed this as a Delete with no comment, but it was far from a consensus; there was just a bare majority for Delete, and most of the Delete voters ignored (at least one purposefully) WP:BIO's unambiguous language specifically qualifying any "fully" professional athlete, which anyone playing AAA baseball certainly is. Would you mind elaborating on your rationale?  RGTraynor  07:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC) I came here to learn the same thing. I think on this one you really need to provide an explanation as a part of the close. Thanks! Hobit (talk) 17:47, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks. Hobit (talk) 01:03, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Brian Edgar Was it you who deleted Brian Edgar? Because if it was you, do you mind at all if I have a copy of the deleted page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.34.151 (talk) 09:23, 3 August 2008 (UTC) RfA thanks Thank you for participating in my RfA, which did not succeed with 30 in support, 28 in opposition and 6 neutral votes. Thanks again for the support! Miracle Your decision to mass delete all the entries I did on Miracle ballplayers was BS. There were far too many opinions in the debate to save several of these ball players. That didn't matter to you at all; you completely ignored the debate and imposed your will. Regardless of who is and who is not on the 40 man roster, there were several good ball players on that list who deserve separate consideration. Deolis Guerra, as it stated in his now deleted Wikipedia entry, was one of the players included in the Johann Santana trade between the Mets and Twins. I would think that fact alone would make him note worthy enough to save. Don't you think that the occassional Twins fan might be interested in reading about this player they picked up in this blockbuster trade? Likewise, don't you think a Mets fan might be interested in learning more about the minor leaguers they gave up? Forget the fact that he was in the All Star futures game.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 15:45, 3 August 2008 (UTC) Some questions About the RFC on bogdangiusca [2]: you said "Due to inactivity, I'm closing this case" - Whose inactivity? Ours? We presented the case which I believe is pretty simple. Were we supposed to do more??? About "Romani people and supposedly related ethnic groups" [3]: What exactly should we take to mediation: the relation between Romanies and other ethnic groups, or the terminology? AKoan (talk) 11:34, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Well, I'm kinda confused. For example, if somebody makes a RFC on me, and I don't respond then I get away with it?!? Anyway, he responded here: [4]. I think that case is simple and I don't know what else could be said. And the essence was not the terminology, this is already under discussion here [5] and people have a civilized attitude there. The problem is that bogdangiusca, who is also an admin, moved that page in a "illegal" way. And it is not the first time that he has a biased position because of his nationalistic agenda. We hoped that he gets a warning or something in order to avoid such "accidents" in the future. AKoan (talk) 17:57, 5 August 2008 (UTC) You do what you think it should be done. As I said, I don't know how this works. We don't want some "advantageous decision", we just hope that bogdangiusca will respect Wikipedia's policy and the other users in the future. AKoan (talk) 08:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC) Deletion review Deletion review for Kelley Gulledge An editor has asked for a deletion review of Kelley Gulledge. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review.  RGTraynor  14:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Apostolic Christian Church of America How deeply did you investigate the copyright concern I raised in my opinion? (And to which my attention was drawn by DGG's edit summary in declining the prior A7 speedy deletion request.) If not for the copyright concern, I'd have opined keep myself. But my understanding is that a valid copyright issue is dispositive, it outweighs any and all keep opinions. So I want to know if you really looked at the copyright issue here. GRBerry 14:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Kansas Avenue AFD Hi there, you closed this as delete. Any real objections to a re-direct. The content is already at the list article (likely via c/p) and I'd like to preserve the history. Just let me know, thanks. TravellingCari 18:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Done, thanks. TravellingCari 18:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC) My Demeanor Regardless of whether or not you liked my demeanor, my opinion remains. I don't believe that you gave any consideration to the debate. Anyway, thanks for the restoration. Robert Delaney, Anthony Slama and several other players on the Miracle also deserve restoration. I wish you would read some of the articles you deleted.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 18:56, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Many thanks! Thank you... ...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 22:17, 4 August 2008 (UTC) Deletion review for Anthony Slama An editor has asked for a deletion review of Anthony Slama. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article, speedy-deleted it, or were otherwise interested in the article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. lifebaka++ 11:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Question on RfCs Hi Wizardman, I see you've been clerking Elonka's RfC. Well, I want to ask something. On Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct, it says in the "Use of administrator privileges" section the following: "This section is only for discussions specifically related to the use of sysop rights by Wikipedia:Administrators. This includes the actions of protecting or unprotecting pages, deleting or undeleting pages, and blocking or unblocking users. If the dispute is over an admin's actions as an editor, it should be listed under the General user conduct section above." This means that RfCs of admins where an admin has abused the tools should be listed there, but if it's just editing concerns about an admin, it should be listed in the "General user conduct" section. In Elonka's RfC, it mainly appears to me to be concerns over her editing and handling of disputes, not actual use of the tools. As such, shouldn't her RfC be listed in the "General user conduct" section of that page rather than the section on admin abuse, or am I missing something? Thanks. Acalamari 16:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC) I did use tools in "editing a protected page", which was to log cautions on WP:ARBPIA. And issuing warnings is only to be done by "an uninvolved admin". Also, the Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah#Conditions for editing that I placed on the page, were "in my authority as an uninvolved administrator". So I think that the admin section of the RfC page is appropriate. However, on the flip side, ChrisO's RfC is more formatted as a "general editing" RfC. For example, most admin RfCs have a section for "Powers misused", but I don't think he listed anything like that. Mostly he seems to be arguing that I'm not enforcing the conditions in the proper way, or in other words, he feels that I should be giving him more leeway (since he is more experienced) than I should give to editors with opposing views. So yes, things are a bit muddled. But to be clear: I don't think I actually used tools anywhere on the Muhammad al-Durrah article or related editors. No protection, deletion, or blocks. All of my actions were to place conditions and warnings. And a very very few brief bans: Talk:Muhammad al-Durrah#Admin log. Which I'm actually fairly proud of, since I feel I offered fairly minor guidance, but had a major impact in stabilizing the article. :) --Elonka 16:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks, Wizardman, for your response. That helped a lot. Best wishes. Acalamari 23:20, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia:Administrators open to recall I couldn't help but notice your name on this list... My experience with you is limited, but based upon the one rash decision I watched you make without any real explanation, I believe you should step down.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 21:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Could you please elaborate on which decision makes you think Wizardman should stand down? John Vandenberg (chat) 22:19, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Oh Lord, don't entertain this. How absurd. —Wknight94 (talk) 22:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Generally, recall is used after a relatively long history of poor conduct. You're asking for him to step down based on one thing you think he was wrong at? Nonsense. Hersfold (t/a/c) 22:46, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Not going to happen - just because you're a little pissed Johnny Spasm. This is bordering on disruption to the project and you are strongly warned not to engage is such farcical requests in future. Nick (talk) 22:47, 5 August 2008 (UTC) Deletion of page Podbharti Recently noticed that the page was deleted. Funny to see that some editors said it was not notable. Its so strange that Wikipedia finds a porn site Savita_Bhabhi notable and worthy of listing and deletes pages like Podbharti and Indicast. Its a shame really, just thought I would tell you that I admonish this notion of Wikipedia and wonder why the admins don't even bother to notify the authors of the deleted pages even once before taking such drastic steps. Mere 2 votes from total strangers to the topic and they just delete the page. Huh! --Debashishc (talk) 09:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC) I wish to add a request to take a look on my talk page for the message left by Chirag who nominated then page (for no good reason) for deletion. Its not difficult to see that he is on some sort of deletion spree. He even offers me advise to nominated pages for deletion. The page deleted had enough citations in the article to make it notable. --Debashishc (talk) 10:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC) Thanks for re-listing the deletion request. I have re-worked on the article to add more citations and links from other pages. Hope it would survive this time.--Debashishc (talk) 13:55, 8 August 2008 (UTC) Chrisjpatrick Thanks for blocking him. i hope you don't mind me putting the block notice over there. --SkyWalker (talk) 04:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC) Michael Jackson What was your reason for deleting the page entitled "Michael Jackson's forthcoming studio album?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.19.124 (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Alastair Haines An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Alastair Haines/Evidence. Please submit your evidence within one week, if possible. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Alastair Haines/Workshop. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, — Coren (talk) 02:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC) FYI Something of a discussion went on in Wknight94's talk page about Olympians. Thought you'd care. Also, did you see the way the discussion went on Anthony Slama? In my opinion, I got another one of my articles saved. I really don't feel like doing this for all of them. The key ones to me are Robert Delaney, Brian Dinkelman, Jeff Manship, Wilson Ramos, Anthony Slama, Danny Valencia, Rene Tosoni, Alex Burnett & Cole Devries. I've gone to enough of their games to have decided that they have the greatest star potential.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 09:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC) For the record, I think you have the wrong impression of me--Johnny Spasm (talk) 20:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC) wonderbra Hi, found you while recent change patrolling. Just a quick question if this can be used as RS? This reference is used in the article Cleavage (breasts) for the Annual celebration section. Can it be used as primary source? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 19:16, 8 August 2008 (UTC) Hi there If you keep on publicizing your political aspirations, you're going to get opposes from people who think you're wayyyyyyy too eager to enter the firepits. :) Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 19:30, 8 August 2008 (UTC) Frank Doljack Hi, Just wondering why you moved the page? Is that some sort of biography guideline to remove the middle name? The reason I ask is because Frank Doljack is also a living person, related to Frank Joseph Doljack. --Stacey Doljack Borsody (talk) 23:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:IL7Soulhunter/Bored Hey Wizardman, thanks for closing this MfD, as well as the other one. However, I wanted to clarify that since IL7Soulhunter has moved User:IL7Soulhunter/Bored/More/Special/Bored/More/Secret/Guestbook to simply User:IL7Soulhunter/Guestbook, I am okay with allowing him to keep that page, per Blow of Light's rationale at the MfD. Thanks. :) GlassCobra 22:30, 9 August 2008 (UTC) WP:CHICAGO According to my records, you have nominated at least one article (Billy Pierce) that includes a category at WP:CHIBOTCATS and that has been promoted to WP:FA, WP:FL or WP:GA. You are not signed up as an active member of WP:CHICAGO. If you consider yourself either an active or semi-active member of the project please sign up as such at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/members. Also, if you are a member, be aware of Wikipedia:Meetup/Chicago 3 and be advised that the project is now trying to keep all the project's WP:PR, WP:FAC, WP:FAR, WP:GAR, WP:GAC WP:FLC, WP:FLRC, WP:FTC, WP:FPOC, WP:FPC, and WP:AFD discussion pages in one location at the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Review page. Please help add any discussion you are aware of at this location.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Your entry in the Five-million pool I have removed your entry in the Five-million pool, since at the time of entering the Wikipedia article count had already reached 2,500,000, so the pool was closed. If it is any consolation to you, I am fairly convinced that by the end of 2012 the count will still be less than 3,500,000.  --Lambiam 22:59, 11 August 2008 (UTC) Joe Connor Don't quote me on this, but I think this is the 2,500,000th article. Sceptre (talk) 23:05, 11 August 2008 (UTC) RFA nom Hi, Wizardman, Thanks very much for asking me about a nom for adminship, which I'm happy to accept. Rlevse had asked me the same thing a few weeks ago, so if it's ok with you, I'd appreciate your conom, as discussed here: User talk:JGHowes#Admin. The RFA to be transcluded is at: Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/JGHowes Again, thanks very much for thinking of me. JGHowes talk - 23:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC) USA Olympic Team I made a roster for the US Olympic Baseball Team, but I have no idea where I would post it. USA Baseball Olympic Team roster Players Coaches/Other Pitchers 40 Brett Anderson 34 Jake Arrieta 30 Trevor Cahill 47 Jeremy Cummings 45 Brian Duensing 39 Kevin Jepsen 15 Brandon Knight 21 Mike Koplove 49 Blaine Neal † 37 Jeff Stevens 29 Stephen Strasburg 35 Casey Weathers Catchers 6 Louis Marson 19 Taylor Teagarden * Infielders 18 Brian Barden * 17 Matthew Brown * 2 Jason Donald 10 Mike Hessman 3 Jayson Nix 26 Terry Tiffee Outfielders 24 Dexter Fowler 7 John Gall 44 Matthew LaPorta 14 Nate Schierholtz * Manager Davey Johnson Bob Watson (general Manager of USA Baseball Professional Teams) Coaches Reggie Smith (Hitting) Marcel Lachemann (Pitching) Rick Eckstein (Bench/3rd Base) Dick Cooke (Auxiliary Coach) Rolando de Armas (Auxiliary Coach) 7-day injured list * On [[Major League Baseball |Major League Baseball]] [[Template:Major League Baseball roster|40-man roster]] ~ Development list # Rehab assignment ∞ Reserve list ‡ Restricted list § Suspended list † Temporarily inactive list → More MiLB rosters → [[Major League Baseball minor league players]] Could you let me know where or post it for me.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Wikipedia Error Thank you. I posted the following on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball I noticed an innaccuracy on Wikipedia. In 1979, it says: September 26 - Phil Niekro of the Atlanta Braves earns his 20th win of the season in a win over the Houston Astros. the losing pitcher is his brother, Joe Niekro who picks up his 20th loss of the season. Joe is the last pitcher of the twentieth century to earn both 20 wins and 20 losses in a season, and is the first National League pitcher to do so since 1905. The Brothers Niekro also join brothers Jim and Gaylord Perry as the only brothers to both win 20 games in the same season. In actuality, Phil was the brother who lost 20 games that season. I don't know how to correct that particular entry. Would it be correct to change it to read: September 26 - Joe Niekro of the Houston Astros earns his 20th win of the season in a win over the Atlanta Braves. the losing pitcher is his brother, Phil Niekro who picks up his 20th loss of the season. Phil is the last pitcher of the twentieth century to earn both 20 wins and 20 losses in a season, and is the first National League pitcher to do so since 1905. The Brothers Niekro also join brothers Jim and Gaylord Perry as the only brothers to both win 20 games in the same season. My guess is yes, but again, it is just a guess. I opt for removing it entirely.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 02:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC) I removed it entirely--Johnny Spasm (talk) 12:11, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Mall Police Please engage with me in a chat about mall police!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mall Police (talk • contribs) 06:17, 12 August 2008 (UTC) 2.5 million I came up with am (diagraph) by looking at the figures in Special:NewPages> I guess I forgot to account for deleted articles so it is probably wrong. Anonymous101 (talk) 16:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC) I'll try to calculate it again, but I'll take account of deleted articles. Anonymous101 (talk) 16:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC) No one spotted that when I explained the mothods on IRC, I've unpublished the Wikinews article temporarily. Anonymous101 (talk) 16:23, 12 August 2008 (UTC) I give up, the Wikinews article is going to be deleted as author request. Anonymous101 (talk) 16:27, 12 August 2008 (UTC) I've restored the article and I will work on creating a version that does not name the article. Anonymous101 (talk) 17:56, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Joe Connor You beat me to it with your talk page response -- I was typing the same thing. Do you think Joe Connor will be the 2.5 millionth article? It would be nice if it were a ballplayer, but I've had a tough time finding info on him so far, other than his brother being famous. According to the 1920 and 1930 census, he was a salesman after he left baseball, but I'm not sure how to cite that (or if it counts as WP:OR). Coemgenus 17:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Nice person Hello. You seem a nice person. I was just looking for other user opinions on my edits and you seem to have gotten around. How long have you been here for? :) --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 17:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC) And what level of work did you put in to gain access to admin tools? Hope I'm not sounding desperate. I'm just slightly curious. :) --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 18:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Ah right. Well I'm doing that for nearly two years (as this user - longer anonymously) so I guess I'm doing OK. Have a nice day. :) --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 19:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Sorry, just wondering if you could verify a fact from an article I created a couple of days ago? I was hoping it might be included on the Main Page and thought this might be an area that appeals to you. It is currently second from the bottom of its section (the 10th). Cheers. :) --Candlewicke Consortiums Limited 22:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC) Anti-tobacco movement in Nazi Germany Hi, just question. The article had several images, but a concern was raised in FA nom that these images were fair use, so I have removed much of the images. Compare the present version with this version. I am not sure if one of the images can be brought back or not. There was also a graph, but I am not well-versed in making graph or chart. Is there any project in wikipedia which can make graph for articles? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 01:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC) Michael Jackson AfDs Poor you, sorry that you have to re list all these articles, I've been giving the wikiproject a clean out, so much rubbish in there that needed deleting. Still, I won't nominate Michael Jackson's health and appearance like some other admin did recently. :-) — Realist2 02:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC) Possible DYK of Joe Connor Hi Wizardman. I've expanded Joe Connor, said to be the 2,500,000th article, to have a chance at appearing on the Main Page. I've decided to try and expand Roger Craig also, since it's not entirely clear which is the 2,500,000th article. I just thought I'd let you know. I think it would be a good idea for Wikipedia's 2,500,000th article to appear on the Main Page. -- RyRy (talk) 22:32, 13 August 2008 (UTC) Heh, don't worry, I've created/expanded many baseball articles to DYK status, and it's rather easy to get it over 1500 characters. :-) Anyway, I'll nominate it now. Feel free to tweak the hook when added if needed. Cheers! -- RyRy (talk) 22:55, 13 August 2008 (UTC) A smile for you Candlewicke Consortiums Limited has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. I need your help When I originally created the USA Baseball Olympic Team roster, I accidentally spelled Stephen Strasburg's name Steven Strasburg. He pitched a one hitter in the Olympics today, so I created an entry for him. I didn't notice it until after I already created it. Either this required an administrator to fix, or I just plain don't know how.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Learned something new. Thanks.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 23:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC) RFAQ [6] eh, you mean you wouldn't consider unblocking? –xeno (talk) 22:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Fair enough. Just FYI it's not a hypothetical situation and the vandal is now one of my brightest and most constructive adoptees. The reason I think that making them wait the week isn't helpful is that whereas if you show forgiveness and unblock right away, they're more likely to keep their promise of being constructive. If you make them fester the week, they're more likely to just return to vandalism as payback. Of course, that's speculative. –xeno (talk) 22:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC) Lokah A claim that a "moderator" "apologized" for deleting this article at the AfD (I think) has been made on my Talk page. I'm trying to figure out who that "moderator" is. Was that you, perhaps? -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Re your message: Thanks. It sounded rather suspicious to me, but I thought I would check around anyways. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Johnny Beall On 15 August, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Johnny Beall, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. --Mifter (talk) 19:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Category renaming Since you successfully moved to shift major league players by position to Major League Baseball players by position (I have no problem with that), maybe you could make a somewhat similar nomination to move Category:American Major League Baseball players by home state and its subcats to Category:American baseball players by home state and appropriate subcats; ideally, this could fold in all the Negro leaguers as well as the relatively few players under Category:American baseball players. The only potential drawback I can foresee would be a tendency to add more articles for non-major leaguers than would be ideal, but I think the advantages outweight the negatives. (It would also agree with cats like Category:American basketball players by state and Category:American football players by state, both of which need to be filled out - though I think they both should also specify home state.) MisfitToys (talk) 23:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC) Forgot to mention that the move would also allow folding in some of those under Category:Female baseball players (such as players of the AAGPBL), though they would presumably still remain in that cat as well. Also, it appears that Category:Major league baseball players by team should be retitled Category:Major League Baseball players by team. MisfitToys (talk) 18:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Guidance on the definition of "William M. Connolley-related pages". Thank you for closing the WP:ANI discussion. I am really not arguing here or trying to be belligerent, but do you have any guidance on what pages this ban actually includes? Obviously it includes William M. Connolley. Does it include edits to RealClimate which have nothing whatsoever to do with WMC, or not? Does it include edits to Lawrence Solomon as Raul wants it to, or not (assuming that they have nothing whatsoever to do with WMC)? Any guidance you can provide will be greatly appreciated. --GoRight (talk) 00:08, 16 August 2008 (UTC) I have another question. User:Ncmvocalist created the following page, User:GoRight/Community sanction, which is fine but I note that he altered the text of the ban from what was actually !voted on. For example: From my topic ban proposal: GoRight topic-banned from William Connolley-related pages - this is not to be confused with edits regarding User:William M. Connolley. From the editing restrictions page: GoRight is topic-banned from William Connolley-related pages - this is not to be confused with edits regarding User:William M. Connolley. From the community sanction page: GoRight is topic-banned William Connolley-related pages, broadly construed. This is not to be confused with making edits concerning User: William M. Connolley. Strictly speaking, a broad interpretation was discussed but so too were a lot of other things. The language that people actually !voted on did not include the "broadly construed" language so I sort of object to this change of language by User:Ncmvocalist after the fact. Is this legitimate? --GoRight (talk) 05:02, 17 August 2008 (UTC)