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{{Infobox musical artist
{{Infobox musical artist
|name = Fools Dance
| name = Fools Dance
|image = foolsdance_F1.jpg |
| image = foolsdance_F1.jpg|
|caption = Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)|
| caption = Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)|
|background = group_or_band
| background = group_or_band
|origin = Horley, Surrey, [[England]]
| origin = Horley, Surrey, [[England]]
|Instruments =
| Instruments =
|genre = [[Punk rock]], [[gothic rock]], [[New wave music|new wave]]|
| genre = [[Punk rock]], [[gothic rock]], [[New wave music|new wave]]|
|years_active = 1983–1987|
| years_active = 1983–1987|
| associated_acts = [[The Stranglers]]<br />[[The Magazine Spies]]<br />[[The Cure]]<br />[[Presence (band)|Presence]] |
| associated_acts = [[The Stranglers]]<br />[[The Magazine Spies]]<br />[[The Cure]]<br />[[Presence (band)|Presence]]|
|label = Top Hole<br />Contorsion<br />Lambs to the Slaughter - Prism |
| label = Top Hole<br />Contorsion<br />Lambs to the Slaughter<br />Prism|
|website =
| website =
|past_members = Gary Biddles<br />Stuart Curran<br />[[Simon Gallup]]<br />Pete Gardner<br />Ron Howe
| past_members = Gary Biddles<br />Stuart Curran<br />[[Simon Gallup]]<br />Pete Gardner<br />Ron Howe<br />[[Jean-Jacques Burnel]]<br />Campbell MacKellar<br />[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]]
}}
}}


'''Fools Dance''' were an English rock band active from 1983 to 1987, chiefly noted for their connections to [[The Cure]].<ref name=":0">{{Cite book |last=Price |first=Simon |title=Curepedia: An A-Z of The Cure |publisher=[[William Morrow and Company|William Morrow]] |year=2023 |isbn=978-0-06-306864-3 |location=New York, NY |publication-date=2023 |pages=134-135}}</ref><ref name="Fools Dance Bio">{{cite web|url=http://www.picturesofyou.us/tourprograms/tp-foolsdance.htm|title=Fools Dance Biography|website=Picturesofyou.us|access-date=2021-01-17}}</ref>
'''Fools Dance''' were an English rock band active from 1983 to 1987, primarily known for their connections to [[The Cure]].<ref name=":0">{{Cite book |last=Price |first=Simon |title=Curepedia: An A-Z of The Cure |publisher=[[William Morrow and Company|William Morrow]] |year=2023 |isbn=978-0-06-306864-3 |location=New York, NY |publication-date=2023 |pages=134–135}}</ref><ref name="Fools Dance Bio">{{cite web|url=http://www.picturesofyou.us/tourprograms/tp-foolsdance.htm|title=Fools Dance Biography|website=Picturesofyou.us|access-date=2021-01-17}}</ref>


==History==
==History==
In 1982, [[Simon Gallup]] was bassist for [[The Cure]], and Gary Biddles was a member of the band's road crew who was occasionally invited to sing onstage. During the tour for the album ''[[Pornography (album)|Pornography]]'', band relations had become contentious, and during a performance in Belgium, Biddles criticized other Cure members [[Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] and [[Lol Tolhurst]] from the stage. Gallup then left the Cure acrimoniously and took Biddles with him.<ref name=":1">Price, p. 29.</ref>
In 1982, [[Simon Gallup]] was bassist for [[The Cure]], and Gary Biddles was a member of the band's road crew who was occasionally invited to sing onstage. During the tour for the album ''[[Pornography (album)|Pornography]]'', band relations had become contentious, and during a performance in Belgium, Biddles criticized other Cure members [[Robert Smith (musician)|Robert Smith]] and [[Lol Tolhurst]] from the stage. Gallup then left the Cure acrimoniously and took Biddles with him.<ref name=":1">Price, p. 29.</ref>


Gallup formed a new band in 1983, originally known as '''The Cry''', with singer Ian Fuller, guitarist Stuart Curran (formerly of [[The Magazine Spies]]), drummer [[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] (formerly of Roxy Music), and keyboardist [[Matthieu Hartley]] (another former member of The Cure).<ref name=":0" /> This band only performed one gig in April 1983, after which all members other than Gallup and Curran quit.<ref name="slicingupeyeballs">{{cite web |date=2013-04-17 |title=Gary Biddles, of Cure spin-offs Fools Dance and Presence, dies |url=http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/04/17/gary-biddles-dies/ |access-date=2021-01-17 |website=slicingupeyeballs.com |quote=I was the original drummer with Cry and that's me drumming at the Rock Garden with Matthieu, Simon and guitarist Stuart Curran, but on this occasion Gary had not yet joined the band and the Singer was Ian Fuller, Gary joined about 2 or 3 months later when the newly named Fools Dance became a 3 piece with just Gary, Simon and Stuart. I later teamed up with Gary on the single They’ll never know. He will be sadly missed. Kindest regards, Tot (Paul Thompson)}}</ref>
Gallup formed a new band in 1983, originally known as '''The Cry''', with singer Ian Fuller, guitarist Stuart Curran (formerly of [[The Magazine Spies]]), drummer [[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] (formerly of [[Roxy Music]]), and keyboardist [[Matthieu Hartley]] (another former member of The Cure).<ref name=":0" /> This band only performed one gig in April 1983, after which all members other than Gallup and Curran quit.<ref name="slicingupeyeballs">{{cite web |date=2013-04-17 |title=Gary Biddles, of Cure spin-offs Fools Dance and Presence, dies |url=http://www.slicingupeyeballs.com/2013/04/17/gary-biddles-dies/ |access-date=2021-01-17 |website=slicingupeyeballs.com |quote=I was the original drummer with Cry and that's me drumming at the Rock Garden with Matthieu, Simon and guitarist Stuart Curran, but on this occasion Gary had not yet joined the band and the Singer was Ian Fuller, Gary joined about 2 or 3 months later when the newly named Fools Dance became a 3 piece with just Gary, Simon and Stuart. I later teamed up with Gary on the single They’ll never know. He will be sadly missed. Kindest regards, Tot (Paul Thompson)}}</ref>


The band was reformed under the name '''Fools Dance''' with Biddles on vocals, plus saxophonist Ron Howe and (after using drum machines for a short period) drummer Pete Gardner.<ref name=":0" /><ref name="ronhowe">{{cite web |date=2003-11-03 |title=Ron Howe Reminisces at The King's Head, Horley |url=http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ronhowe.htm |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040825141729/http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ronhowe.htm |archive-date=25 August 2004 |access-date=2021-01-17 |publisher=carmenrosa.com}}</ref> This lineup found little success in their native England, but developed a strong following in the [[Low Countries]]. At one show they were supported by [[The Cult]]. Frequent travel to Europe left the band little time for recording.<ref name="ronhowe" /><ref name="seattlepi">{{cite web|url=https://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/blogcritics/article/Interview-with-Gary-Biddles-Cure-Roadie-and-895544.php#:~:text=For%20those%20that%20don't,%2C%20also%20of%20the%20Cure).|title=Interview with Gary Biddles: Cure Roadie and Fools Dance/Presence Frontman|date=2011-04-26|access-date=2021-07-18}}</ref> An EP was recorded in 1983 but was not released until 1985, and was re-released several times in following years with minor alterations to the track list.<ref name=":0" />
The band was reformed under the name '''Fools Dance''' with Biddles on vocals, plus saxophonist Ron Howe, and (after using drum machines for a short period) drummer Pete Gardner.<ref name=":0" /><ref name="ronhowe">{{cite web |date=2003-11-03 |title=Ron Howe Reminisces at The King's Head, Horley |url=http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ronhowe.htm |url-status=dead |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20040825141729/http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ronhowe.htm |archive-date=25 August 2004 |access-date=2021-01-17 |publisher=carmenrosa.com}}</ref> This lineup found little success in their native England, but developed a strong following in the [[Low Countries]]. At one show they were supported by [[The Cult]]. Frequent travel to Europe left the band little time for recording.<ref name="ronhowe" /><ref name="seattlepi">{{cite news|url=https://www.seattlepi.com/lifestyle/blogcritics/article/Interview-with-Gary-Biddles-Cure-Roadie-and-895544.php#:~:text=For%20those%20that%20don't,%2C%20also%20of%20the%20Cure).|title=Interview with Gary Biddles: Cure Roadie and Fools Dance/Presence Frontman|newspaper=Seattle Post-Intelligencer |date=2011-04-26|access-date=2021-07-18}}</ref> An EP was recorded in 1983 but was not released until 1985, and was re-released several times in following years with minor alterations to the track list.<ref name=":0" />


In late 1984, Biddles brokered a reconciliation between Gallup and Robert Smith. This resulted in Gallup leaving Fools Dance and rejoining the Cure, where he has remained ever since.<ref name=":1" /> This caused Fools Dance to cease operations temporarily. Ron Howe later made a guest appearance on the Cure album ''[[The Head on the Door|Head on the Door]]'' in 1985.<ref name="seattlepi" />
In late 1984, Biddles brokered a reconciliation between Gallup and Robert Smith. This resulted in Gallup leaving Fools Dance and rejoining the Cure, where he has remained ever since.<ref name=":1" /> Subsequently, Fools Dance broke up, with Biddles retaining the band name. Ron Howe later made a guest appearance on the Cure album ''[[The Head on the Door]]'' in 1985.<ref name="seattlepi" /><ref>Price, pp. 181-182.</ref>


In 1987, Biddles reformed Fools Dance with bassist [[Jean-Jacques Burnel]] from [[The Stranglers]], a returning [[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] on drums, and guitarist Campbell McKellar. This lineup released the EP ''They'll Never Know'' before the band dissolved once again.<ref name=":0" /> Biddles later joined the band [[Presence (band)|Presence]] which had been formed by another former member of the Cure, [[Lol Tolhurst]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.thecure.com/archive/curenewspages/cn9link.html|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20070927000152/http://www.thecure.com/archive/curenewspages/cn9link.html|url-status=dead|title="Interview with Robert Smith" 5 August 2007|archive-date=27 September 2007}}</ref> Biddles died in 2013.<ref name=":1" />
In 1987, Biddles reformed Fools Dance with bassist [[Jean-Jacques Burnel]] from [[The Stranglers]], a returning [[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] on drums, and guitarist Campbell McKellar. This lineup released the single "They'll Never Know" before the band dissolved once again.<ref name=":0" /> Biddles later joined the band [[Presence (band)|Presence]] which had been formed by another former member of the Cure, [[Lol Tolhurst]].<ref>Price, pp. 300-301.</ref> Biddles died in 2013.<ref name=":1" />


==Line-up==
==Members==
{{col-begin}}
{{col-begin}}
{{col-2}}
{{col-2}}
;The Cry
;The Cry
*Stuart Curran – [[guitar]]
*Stuart Curran – guitar
*[[Simon Gallup]] – [[bass guitar]]
*[[Simon Gallup]] – bass
*[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] – [[Drum kit|drums]]
*[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] – drums
*[[Matthieu Hartley]] – [[Keyboard instrument|keyboards]]
*[[Matthieu Hartley]] – keyboards
*Ian Fuller – [[singing|vocals]]
*Ian Fuller – vocals
{{col-2}}
{{col-2}}
;Fools Dance
;Fools Dance
*Gary Biddles – vocals
*Gary Biddles – vocals
*Stuart Curran – guitar
*Stuart Curran – guitar
*Simon Gallup – bass guitar, lead vocals (on track 4 of ''They'll Never Know'')
*Simon Gallup – bass
*Pete Gardner – drums
*Pete Gardner – drums
*Ron Howe – [[saxophone]]
*Ron Howe – saxophone
*[[J.J. Burnel]] – bass guitar (on track 1 of ''They'll Never Know'')
*[[Jean-Jacques Burnel]] – bass
*Campbell MacKellar – guitar (on track 1 of ''They'll Never Know'')
*Campbell MacKellar – guitar
*Paul Thompson – drums (on track 1 of ''They'll Never Know'')
*[[Paul Thompson (musician)|Paul Thompson]] – drums
*Mark Wilson – bass guitar (during short-lived relaunch in the late 1980s)
{{col-end}}
{{col-end}}


==Discography==
==Discography==
[[Image:Theyllneverknow_cov.jpg|right|200px|thumb|Cover of "They'll Never Know]]
[[Image:Theyllneverknow_cov.jpg|200px|thumb|Cover of the 1987 single "They'll Never Know"]]
{| class=wikitable
|-
!Year !! Type !! Format !! Title !! Tracks
|-
| 1985 || 12" EP || Universe Productions – Turn 19, Sound & Vision – Turn 19 || ''Fools Dance'' || "Sa'Ha" / "The Don Diddy Song" / "The Priest Hole" / "Happy Families Waiting (At The Skylab Landing Bay)" / "I'm So Many (Talk Talk)"
|-
| 1986 || 12" EP || Top Hole Records – TH 22 || ''Fools Dance'' || "The Priest Hole" / "Happy Families Waiting (At The Skylab Landing Bay)" / "I'm So Many (Talk Talk)" / "Sa'Ha" / "The Don Diddy Song"
|-
| 1986 || 12" EP || Contorsion – CNT.011 || ''Fools Dance'' || "The Priest Hole" / "Happy Families Waiting (At The Skylab Landing Bay)" / "I'm So Many (Talk Talk)" / "Sa'Ha" / "The Don Diddy Song"
|-
| 1987 || 12" EP || Lambs To The Slaughter Records – LTS 18 || ''Fools Dance'' || "The Priest Hole" / "Happy Families Waiting (At The Skylab Landing Bay)" / "I'm So Many (Talk Talk)" / "Sa'Ha" / "The Don Diddy Song"
|-
| 1987 || 7" Single || Lambs To The Slaughter Records – LTS 22 || "They'll Never Know" || "They'll Never Know" / "Empty Hours"
|-
| 1987 || 12" Single || Lambs To The Slaughter Records – LTS 22 (T) || "They'll Never Know" || "They'll Never Know" / "The Collector" / "Empty Hours" / "The Ring"
|}


* ''Fools Dance'' (EP, 1985) – first released by Universal Productions, re-released with minor alterations by Top Hole Records in 1986, Contorsion in 1986, and Lambs to the Slaughter Records in 1987
===Unreleased songs===
* "They'll Never Know" (single, 1987) – released by Lambs to the Slaughter Records
*"Old Door"
*"Wonderful Weekend"
*"Sin"
*"Turn Me Back to Animal"
*"Spinning Around"
*"The Burn"
*"Remembrance Day"
*"Where Do You Sleep"
*"Snakeskin World"
*"Bowdiddly Song"
*"Turning Back"
*"Tapestry"
*"Canaries Out"


==References==
==References==
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==External links==
*[http://www.picturesofyou.us/FoolsDance/FoolsDance.htm Fools Dance at picturesofyou.us]
*[https://web.archive.org/web/20060304155321/http://www.carmenrosa.com/towelflick/foolsdance/ Lyrics]
*{{Discogs artist|267727}}
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[[Category:English new wave musical groups]]
[[Category:English new wave musical groups]]
[[Category:English rock music groups]]
[[Category:Musical groups established in 1983]]
[[Category:Musical groups established in 1983]]
[[Category:1983 establishments in England]]
[[Category:1983 establishments in England]]

Latest revision as of 05:57, 29 March 2024

Fools Dance
Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)
Fools Dance as pictured on their 1985 EP (L-R: Pete Gardner, Ron Howe, Gary Biddles, Simon Gallup, Stuart Curran)
Background information
OriginHorley, Surrey, England
GenresPunk rock, gothic rock, new wave
Years active1983–1987
LabelsTop Hole
Contorsion
Lambs to the Slaughter
Prism
Past membersGary Biddles
Stuart Curran
Simon Gallup
Pete Gardner
Ron Howe
Jean-Jacques Burnel
Campbell MacKellar
Paul Thompson

Fools Dance were an English rock band active from 1983 to 1987, primarily known for their connections to The Cure.[1][2]

History[edit]

In 1982, Simon Gallup was bassist for The Cure, and Gary Biddles was a member of the band's road crew who was occasionally invited to sing onstage. During the tour for the album Pornography, band relations had become contentious, and during a performance in Belgium, Biddles criticized other Cure members Robert Smith and Lol Tolhurst from the stage. Gallup then left the Cure acrimoniously and took Biddles with him.[3]

Gallup formed a new band in 1983, originally known as The Cry, with singer Ian Fuller, guitarist Stuart Curran (formerly of The Magazine Spies), drummer Paul Thompson (formerly of Roxy Music), and keyboardist Matthieu Hartley (another former member of The Cure).[1] This band only performed one gig in April 1983, after which all members other than Gallup and Curran quit.[4]

The band was reformed under the name Fools Dance with Biddles on vocals, plus saxophonist Ron Howe, and (after using drum machines for a short period) drummer Pete Gardner.[1][5] This lineup found little success in their native England, but developed a strong following in the Low Countries. At one show they were supported by The Cult. Frequent travel to Europe left the band little time for recording.[5][6] An EP was recorded in 1983 but was not released until 1985, and was re-released several times in following years with minor alterations to the track list.[1]

In late 1984, Biddles brokered a reconciliation between Gallup and Robert Smith. This resulted in Gallup leaving Fools Dance and rejoining the Cure, where he has remained ever since.[3] Subsequently, Fools Dance broke up, with Biddles retaining the band name. Ron Howe later made a guest appearance on the Cure album The Head on the Door in 1985.[6][7]

In 1987, Biddles reformed Fools Dance with bassist Jean-Jacques Burnel from The Stranglers, a returning Paul Thompson on drums, and guitarist Campbell McKellar. This lineup released the single "They'll Never Know" before the band dissolved once again.[1] Biddles later joined the band Presence which had been formed by another former member of the Cure, Lol Tolhurst.[8] Biddles died in 2013.[3]

Members[edit]

Discography[edit]

Cover of the 1987 single "They'll Never Know"
  • Fools Dance (EP, 1985) – first released by Universal Productions, re-released with minor alterations by Top Hole Records in 1986, Contorsion in 1986, and Lambs to the Slaughter Records in 1987
  • "They'll Never Know" (single, 1987) – released by Lambs to the Slaughter Records

References[edit]

  1. ^ a b c d e Price, Simon (2023). Curepedia: An A-Z of The Cure. New York, NY: William Morrow. pp. 134–135. ISBN 978-0-06-306864-3.
  2. ^ "Fools Dance Biography". Picturesofyou.us. Retrieved 17 January 2021.
  3. ^ a b c Price, p. 29.
  4. ^ "Gary Biddles, of Cure spin-offs Fools Dance and Presence, dies". slicingupeyeballs.com. 17 April 2013. Retrieved 17 January 2021. I was the original drummer with Cry and that's me drumming at the Rock Garden with Matthieu, Simon and guitarist Stuart Curran, but on this occasion Gary had not yet joined the band and the Singer was Ian Fuller, Gary joined about 2 or 3 months later when the newly named Fools Dance became a 3 piece with just Gary, Simon and Stuart. I later teamed up with Gary on the single They'll never know. He will be sadly missed. Kindest regards, Tot (Paul Thompson)
  5. ^ a b "Ron Howe Reminisces at The King's Head, Horley". carmenrosa.com. 3 November 2003. Archived from the original on 25 August 2004. Retrieved 17 January 2021.
  6. ^ a b "Interview with Gary Biddles: Cure Roadie and Fools Dance/Presence Frontman". Seattle Post-Intelligencer. 26 April 2011. Retrieved 18 July 2021.
  7. ^ Price, pp. 181-182.
  8. ^ Price, pp. 300-301.
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