User talk:Köbra/Archive1

Toše Proeski

You undid my revision on that page... Can you please locate on the source provided there: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7046808.stm

linked as: <ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7046808.stm</ref> He died in an automobile accident in [[Croatia]] on [[October 16]] [[2007]].<ref name="focus"/>,

the citation that proves this:

"and was called "Elvis Presley of the Balkans" by the BBC".

If you can't, I wanna know why you undid my revision. The whole thing sounds too POV. But, that could be ok, if at least there was a source that proved such a thing cited to be true. The source provided, however, does not state this thing.Heracletus (talk) 18:25, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

I apologize, I hadn't read this particular source because I assumed it was the same article that I read a couple of months ago which did, in fact, refer to him as just that - "Elvis Presley of the Balkans". Though you are free to modify or remove the sentence, I strongly advise you to discuss it on the article's talk page, as someone else made that particular contribution and I personally oppose the removal of sources from any article. Kobra85 (talk) 01:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Rihanna & FYROM Airplay Chart

It's really funny how you mixed music & politics. Firstly, the site you mention is a radio chart and not the official airplay chart of F.Y.R.O.M. therefore it is not an important chart. Imagine what would happen if every person adds the radio charts of their countries. A complete chaos. Do not compare the OFFICIAL IFPI Singles Chart of Greece which is based on SALES or the Greek AIRPLAY which is based on plays of all radios in Greece and not just one. In case you find an official airplay chart of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia that's fine since it's the official one and represents the airplay of the whole country. --Chronisgr (talk) 11:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It is you of course since you attacked me and didn't want to understand that they reason that i deleted the chart was because it was a radio chart and not because it was a chart of Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. And you're completely wrong about the warnings. Only a person who comes from Skopje was opposed of changing the "Macedonia" into the official name Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia or F.Y.R Macedonia which is used by EBU. And exactly, it is an encyclopedia and official names should be used instead of unnofficial ones or the ones we like for instance. Like it Or Not :-) --Chronisgr (talk) 12:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You were the one who mentioned the name issue! Please read again. And so what if an website(there are thousands and even more which are about charts) called "World Charts" has the chart of a radio as the official chart of Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia? Can it be compared to the singles charts of other countries or the official airplay ones? Obviously, there's no other website in which there's an airplay chart of F.Y.R.O.M. and they added this which is a radio chart and does NOT represent the airplay of the country. And if i'm right there is a capital city called Skopje, right? Plus, what i am and what i believe it's my job and none of your business and vice versa of course. Thank you.--Chronisgr (talk) 19:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Tha Realest

Is it possible to link to the previous XfD? I'm looking at Witness Tha Realest Mix Tape and Witness Tha Realest Mixtape and have no doubt that you're right, but is there a way to indicate a previous AfD in that {{db-repost}}? Just so the admin can make sure. For instance, with these, I don't see an article that was up for discussion, though it was probably a differently spelled name.

Anyway, let me know? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 07:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I looked as well, unfortunately I could not find a discussion. I do, in fact, remember there already being an article for this subject and I think it was deleted due to this discussion. Köbra ^Talk 07:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Invite

I thought you might like to join WP:MKD. You're contributions to Macedonia-related articles have been great, and we need more people like you who don't concentrate on the usual articles (history/politics/linguistics etc.). BalkanFever 14:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

ethnic Macedonian or Republic of Macedonia?

I started a discussion regarding article names here. If you have an opinion please voice it. BalkanFever 02:20, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Assessment

Me again :). I see you are assessing articles, which is great. I think at some point we (me, you and anyone else who wants to) should fix the importance scale, and add examples of different types of articles (biographic, geographic, musical etc.) so that it is easier to assess many articles quickly. What are your thoughts? BalkanFever 03:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, the importance scale is great as it is, thought you are right — it would be nice to include better examples because it seems that very few articles are being assessed on WikiProject Republic of Macedonia. Many of the examples used have, themselves, not been assessed in this sense. Köbra⁸⁵ 04:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

That was my fault - I never got around to actually assessing those articles. With cities though - should we make them all the same importance or base it on population/article quality. Essentially we could have Štip and Demir Hisar at the same importance because they are both towns, but the former has a significantly higher population and is probably more well known to foreigners, and the latter is a stub. That's why I initially thought there should be more criteria. It would be easier to have a value of importance beforehand, so that we can just copy and paste assessment over a large number of similar articles, instead of manually typing in the parameters for each article when we come across it. BalkanFever 05:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

We should consider the notability of topics outside of the Republic of Macedonia when assessing articles which may be related. Articles such as Skopje would be of "Top" importance as it is quite notable outside of the Republic of Macedonia, unlike Štip. Prilep is also a city, thought it would have a lower importance than Skopje, such as "High", as it is very notable in the Republic of Macedonia but rarely outside it. Köbra⁸⁵ 05:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Other than Skopje, I think most cities would be the same importance (Prilep, Stip, Bitola, Kumanovo), and small towns/villages would be lower. However, administrative units (municipalities) are not really notable at all as far I know, even though they are actually larger than the cities themselves. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BalkanFever (talk • contribs) 05:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

True. Assessments should primarily be based on an articles notability outside of the Republic of Macedonia and subsequently the country itself. As with Lake Ohrid, I rated this articles as being of "High" importance as it is a UNESCO World Heritage site and somewhat notable in areas of research outside of Macedonia. Köbra⁸⁵ 06:04, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

OK that makes sense. I will try and assess articles according to that criteria. The problem is most Macedonian things aren't very notable outside the country anyway, and I can only guess their notability in Macedonia. BalkanFever 06:26, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Quick request

In the future, if you could use {{Film}} instead of {{WikiProject Film}}, I'd be very grateful. Although the latter one automatically redirects to the former, it has been deprecated, and we're trying to phase out its usage as task force tagging slowly occurs over the next year or so. Knowing that it's not being added to new articles would put me greatly at ease. Thanks! Girolamo Savonarola (talk) 08:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Macedonia naming dispute

I've assessed this article as "Top importance", because I think it is fairly notable in the international community, and it is a very important topic in the Republic of Macedonia. If you disagree, I'm happy to go with what you think, as you seem to better at assessment than me. BalkanFever 08:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Your comment on Abecedar

Austrian and Hungarian aren't Slavic. You should probably remove that. BalkanFever 08:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Abecedar

hi I have one small question. Can you talk little bit with The Cat and the Owl user to stop remove the Macedonian language from the article? I have put Macedonian and Slavic language and he is constantly removing the Macedonian. Please let him stop doing that. Macedonian should be written there. regards--MacedonianBoy (talk) 10:21, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

On the other hand

Could you be kind enough to provide me proof that these partisans were Macedonians (ethnic) and that the soldiers are indeed Bulgarians (it is not clear from the photograph). --Laveol ^T 12:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but that's not for me to say. It was Revizionist who uploaded the image, so I think it would be best if you asked him. I only reverted your edit on the grounds that it was first contributed by a shady IP contributor from Bulgaria. The edit also seems to be stimulant to the idea that only the Communist partisans can be labeled "Macedonian" and not "Bulgarian" before 1944. Because, "on the other hand", Serbs too were Bulgarians ;) Köbra ⁸⁵ 12:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Just for a rough comparison (uniform-wise), I'll provide you with a couple images of Bulgarian soldiers during WWII. [1], [2]. Köbra ⁸⁵ 12:47, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Jingiby and Frightner

In order to save Fut. Perf. the spam, I'll ask you here. Whatever Jingiby did does it justify your own actions? Do you really think that it justified them? --Laveol ^T 00:32, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the fact that I haven't made a single disruptive edit (all of which were contained within talk pages in the first place) since Jingiby was banned, then the answer to your question is yes. I also don't want to have to remind you that I was banned only after requesting it, before that I was merely blocked for disruptive editing on a single talk page. I never had anything against Bulgarian editors that didn't go around spreading their bias about ethnic Macedonians being Bulgarian, like you for example. But then you started going around kissing asses (figuratively) of those editors' that did (Jingiby and Neutron), after I insulted them. Quid pro quo, I say. Köbra ⁸⁵ 07:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

No personal attacks

Refrain from using contagious language as you did here, here and here (quote "get that through your thick head"); you are in direct violation of WP:CIVIL and Wikipedia:No personal attacks. --157.228.x.x (talk) 12:07, 5 April 2008 (UTC)