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May 30

Organisations editing their own entries

Hi, I am looking for clarification on Wikipedia's policies on individuals or organisations editing articles on themselves.

Can you please confirm (or point me in the direction) of the rule that says you may edit articles on yourself. If the answer is "yes you may" obviously this does not give one the right to delete correct information simply because it is deemed undesirable. I would like confirmation that you can correct incorrect information about oneself or one's organisation.

Cheers Matt (talk) 00:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. It may depend if the article passes WP:BIO. In most cases that usually happen, articles about yourself is speedy deleted because of it's notability. May I have a link to the article you found this situation in?--RyRy5 (talk) 00:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As an example, if I were the Communications Manager of a Government department, and there was incorrect information included in the article on my organisation, is there any rule against me correcting it or indeed adding to it? Matt (talk) 00:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No. You are free to edit the article no matter if you are part of it. But if it is about a real person, it's different depending on WP:BIO.--RyRy5 (talk) 00:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There could be conflict of interest concerns.. have a look at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest for general advice. The best way to avoid trouble is to source anything you add to it. Friday (talk) 00:56, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another good idea is to instead discuss your concerns on the Talk page of the article. In many cases, other editors are watching and will respond to your valid concerns. That way, you have less to worry about in the conflict of interest arena. The specific guideline is within the article Friday has pointed you to, here. Franamax (talk) 02:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I cannot see why there should be any impediment to a person or organisation creating or editing articles about themselves. The obvious danger is that such material might not have a NPOV, and could be intended for propaganda purposes. The less obvious, but no less real problem comes about through WP’s regulation that material presented must derive from previous and published research, and not from private research or personal reminiscences, communications and the like. It would be a disciplined writer indeed who could discriminate between objective and previously published material concerning their public and private affairs and their own autobiographical recollection of the same, and favour the former whilst disarding the latter, no matter how compellingly it might loom in their minds. Myles325a (talk) 01:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Non free use image in template problem.

The non free use image NSWPF logosmall.jpg is in the template {{New South Wales Police Force}} and was botted as per User:SoxBot VIII/logfile#470000.

This template DOES use the image in ACCORDANCE with the rules relating to the fair use of images relating to an organisation, in this case solely to represent the organisation holding the rights to the image.

How do I stop this image being botted again ?

Peet Ern (talk) 00:54, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It needs a Fair Use Rational (FUR). A good one for this is {{Logo fur}}. The bot will keep botting it until one is placed, as it is required by law. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Calvin is partially right. It does need a fair use rationale. However, it is unevitable to stop the bot, because it is enforcing one of the NFCC criteria, that states "fair use only in mainspace". I have removed the image once more, because it is violating the NFCC policy in the template namespace. WP:FUE states, "They should never be used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes), portals, user pages, categories, Help, MediaWiki, or the Project namespace." Only under extreme circumstances does the bot skip it, and it needs to be taken up with me so I can program it in. Soxred 93 02:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*bonks self on head* - must remember that rule... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 04:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've found being corrected by others on the Help desk to be a marvelous aid to memory. The more glaring my gaffe, the more clearly I recall it. This is actually related to how the brain forms long-term memories. If being corrected feels too traumatic, one possibility might be propranolol. --Teratornis (talk) 07:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

marriage

IF YOU MARRY ONCE MORE,YOU TO THE MARRIGE ARE? HOW DO YOU MANIFEST YOUR LOVE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.203.32 (talk) 02:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. The help desk is used for questions related to USING wikipedia. Your question is not related to wikipedia. Please consider asking at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. Thank you. --RyRy5 (talk) 02:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My account seemed to be hacked

My account User:NordicFire will not let me log in with the password I set. I made sure I got the random verification code correct. This is the second time my account password has seemed to be changed and now it says I do not have a e-mail address listed so I can recover the password. I did, thats how I got a temp. password to chage it the first time, but now it says I do not. What is going on? Can I get an admin to reset it for me? How can I verify that the account is mine so this can happen? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.94.171 (talk) 04:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um.. the email and password only the account controller can see and change. And administrator can permanently block the hacked account, if you can prove it really has been taken over. Then you will have to make a new account. On this new one, you may want to secure it by placing a {{Committed identity}} on the userpage. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 04:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's made no contributions since January so I don't think it's been taken over. If you've lost your password and have no email addres then I'm afraid you won't be able to access your account. Only the account holder has the power to change their details using Special:Preferences. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 07:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DAB John Billingsley

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There is already an article for John Billingsley an american actor but I've recently been reading about John Billingsley (1747-1811) of Ashwick where he is buried.[1] He was the writer of the 1794 Survey of Somerset, and a leading agriculturalist who was one of the founders of the Bath and West Society, known today as the Royal Bath and West of England Society. There is a whole chapter on him in Atthill, Robin (1971). Old Mendip (2nd ed.). Newton Abbot: David & Charles. ISBN 0715351710.. I realise a disambiguation page would be needed but which should be the "primary" article & how should the Somerset John Billingsley article be named.— Rod ^talk 08:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Probably unnecessary as there are only two. I suggest putting a dablink at the top of the actor's page (when the article exists). Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK Thanks I can do that (when I've written the article), but do you think "John Billingsley (Somerset)" is a suitable title as it looks a bit like a place name - would "John Billingsley, agriculturalist" be better?— Rod ^talk 09:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have a read of WP:NCP - that should help. Has John Billingsley got a middle name? In which case John Xavier Billingsley might be a possibility. However, given the choice of agriculturalist or Somerset, I would go with agriculturalist (with it written in parenthesis, not after a comma), as it is a description of what he was, not where he came from - much more informative from an encyclopedic point of view. StephenBuxton (talk) 14:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks John Billingsley (agriculturist) now created (will do further work) - dablink added to both articles.— Rod ^talk 15:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And nice job too if I may say so! – ukexpat (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Text overlaps infobox

Resolved

– Purging fixed it...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 10:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

on Skype. I never know how to fix these, could someone else take a look? Thanks...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 10:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is the problem. I've had a look and nothing looks wrong, however it may be my browser. StewieGriffin! • Talk 10:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, purging fixed it...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 10:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do i get collapsible tables on my wiki?

My wiki doesn't support them yet. How do i update it? Any help much appreciated. Not sure if this is precisely right place to ask this, if not, where should i go? Thanks 92.21.165.55 (talk) 12:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "my wiki", but here's how you do it here on Wikipedia:

This is a collapsible table!
Here's some stuff inside that table that you want to collapse!

The trick is the class="collapsible" part at the top of the table. You might also be interested in the class keyword "collapsed", which defaults the table to its closed state. Also, if you want the table to span across, you might want to also use the "navbox" class too. More information can be found at Help:Tables and Wikipedia:Collapsible tables. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 12:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you are interested in how to do this on MediaWiki software outside of Wikipedia (which is technically outside the scope of this page), you might be interested in m:Help:Collapsing, which indicates that it was accomplished through JavaScript additions to MediaWiki:Common.js -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 12:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, thanks! So I should able to just copy and paste MediaWiki:Common.js to replace my wiki's Common.js? And that'll give collapsible tables? That's what i did but i think i buggered it up. It's not actually 'my' wiki but here it is: [2] (and yeah, apologies for putting this question in the wrong place - feel free to move it if it's more appropriate) 92.21.165.55 (talk) 13:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would stick to copying only the collapsible table part, which is about 30% down in the script. YMMV. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 16:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

mw:Project:Support desk is the appropriate place to ask questions about MediaWiki administration for wikis other than Wikipedia. However, the Wikipedia Help desk gives faster response, even to inappropriate questions. Of course, the less appropriate a question is for the Help desk, the less likely that the answers will help. You can find a lot of how-to information for MediaWiki by using the various {{Help desk searches}}, especially the searches on Meta-Wiki and MediaWiki.org. --Teratornis (talk) 17:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moved articles

When an article is moved by the "move" tab, are all previous edits kept intact and moved to the new article name? Isn't this confusing for someone who never edited say article X, which was moved from article Y, but who's contributions show that they have? Is this in compliance with the GFDL? Plasticbounceman (talk) 14:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When the page is moved, a redirect is formed, so the pages are still linked. Yes, all the history is preserved, and the new name will show up in every page history, including watchlists, contributions and so on. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MOVE#Page histories. And speaking of confusing, it can be annoying when two similar but nonidentical articles exist, and some particular word or phrase logically links to one and not the other, people make many such links, and then later a deletionist decides to delete the content from one of the articles and make it a redirect to the other. The result can be that some links to the redirect page no longer make as sense as they did originally. An example was the peaknik article, which coherently described the types of people who promote peak oil theory. We had a bunch of links from articles about people who promote peak oil theory to the peaknik article. After the deletionists gutted the peaknik article, without bothering to fix all the links they rendered less coherent, now all those links go to the peak oil article, and from the context that often makes little sense. When someone clicks on a jargon term, they expect to see a concise definition of the jargon term, not some complex discussion about a related topic from which they would have to laboriously infer the definition of the jargon term they saw initially. (If you ever click a link in Wikipedia and find yourself asking "Huh?" because the resulting page is not what you expected, chances are your link made more sense once upon a time, before someone degraded Wikipedia by moving or merging pages without bothering to check the backlinks.) So, basically, when someone moves an article, or guts an article and turns it into a redirect, they should examine all the backlinks and fix all the links that made more sense in light of the previous article content or title. That in turn requires understanding what the original contributors were thinking when they added the links which the later move or deletion degraded. --Teratornis (talk) 17:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I found your answers helpful and informative. However, my second question was not addressed. Is altering the location and title of an article a user contributed to in compliance with the GFDL? Plasticbounceman (talk) 14:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

conversion from weight of sample taken to ppm

how to convert weight of sample taken to ppm.

for example: 0.1598g of lead nitrate for preparation of 100ppm solution —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagan bandi (talk • contribs) 15:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Algebraist 15:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You may find some helpful information in Conversion of units, Stoichiometry, Analytical chemistry, and/or Lead nitrate. --Teratornis (talk) 17:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

references

If I wrote a page and used websites to back up the facts, what is the proper way to show them? I wrote a page called "Charlie Williamson" and inserted references, but I'm not sure I did it right.

Thanks, Ospreyfan (talk) 16:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You added some reference footnotes, but did not create a reference list, so they weren't displayed. I have done so. Algebraist 16:52, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:FOOT for the instructions you needed. Also see the related WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:CITET, and WP:LAYOUT. For more, see WP:EIW#Cite. --Teratornis (talk) 17:00, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Found Vandalism

I don't edit Wikipedia. I found vandalism, but do not want to make changes through my work computer. Listed under the article for Chappaquiddick incident, in the section Inquest, third paragraph the word "boobs" is used. It does not belong there, but I do not have any knowledge to fix it. The sentence in question is:

"Under Massachusetts law boobs could have ordered Kennedy's arrest, but he chose not to do so.[8] District Attorney Dinis chose not to pursue Kennedy for manslaughter, despite Judge Boyle's conclusions."

If this could be fixed.

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.114.40.31 (talk) 17:03, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Dismas|^(talk) 17:13, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c} Looks like Dismas beat me to it. Thank you very much for reporting this! -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 17:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I need to change the article on Kazakhstan

Greetings,

I have been a registered user for a long time and I need to edit the Kazakhstan article. Please kindly tell me how I do this? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaelryanmccoy (talk • contribs) 18:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Help:Editing, which will tell how to edit pages. Please also take note of our policies WP:Verifiability and WP:Reliable sources, as well as WP:Neutral point of view. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:38, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Paul Vogel

I saw that User:Paul Vogel, who was banned originally on May 4, 2004, was to be banned until May 3rd, 2008, for almost 4 years, becuase of repeated ban condition violations. I think the ban is expired, but no one has removed his name from the list. Obviously, the ban has, and should've had expired 27 days ago, yet, no one has removed his name from the list! Can someone check it out? Thank you.Kitty53 (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From a technical standpoint, I think you're correct since the user was banned by Arbcom, rather than consensus. However, I'm not aware of any consensus to unblock (or any reason to do so, given the history of disruption), so I'm not sure what the point of removing his name would be. (Since if no one's willing to unblock, then he's still banned via consensus, if not via arbcom). Just my $0.02, --Bfigura ^(talk) 18:44, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:ANI may a better place to take this. —BradV 18:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know about that. Isn't that where you report incidents? I don't think this is an incident.Kitty53 (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:AN may be more appropriate, actually. It's where banning discussion often takes place, so I don't see why unbanning discussion can't. However, it's quite possible that the user may remain "community banned" if no admin is willing to unblock him (and, if the user isn't going to come back, any unbanning would be purely symbolic, really). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:58, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox question

Resolved

I saw the map on Dadra and Nagar Haveli and there seems to be some sort of problem on the graphic, at least on my browser, and I couldn't figure out what the issue was. Can someone fix this? Thanks, Spencer^T♦^C 19:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just looked at the page and it came up OK. What are you seeing on your screen? Cheers. TN‑X-Man 19:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ah ha! I think I saw the problem with the link on the city name. It should be fixed now, but take a look and let me know. TN‑X-Man 19:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good now. Thanks, Spencer^T♦^C 00:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki mini atlas

AMybody have an idea what's happened to the globe? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ ^$1,000,000? 20:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're the guy trying to take over the world— you tell us. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But to be a bit more serious— what globe? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate links used to have a

icon on them which, when clicked on, would pop open a mini map. This is no longer on by default -- and I don't know why. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 22:07, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't know what's going on with the m:WikiMiniAtlas. There's no discussion of removing it on Meta or the {{coord}} page or the WikiProject. I'll take it over to WP:VPT. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 22:15, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a recent change to MediaWiki:Common.js may have broken this. Continue this discussion at WP:VPT. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 22:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to User:brion, its fixed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. You may need to purge the page to see the fix take effect. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 02:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting a Page from My Own Userspace

I created a page in my userspace to rewrite part of an article. It's rewritten now, and the page serves no purpose. I would like to nominate it for speedy deletion; is there a template that covers this situation or should I take some other action? Alinnisawest (talk) 21:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{db-user}} --Onorem ♠Dil 21:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you note which page it is on my talk I'll delete it for you. See WP:CSD#U1 for further info as well. Pedro : Chat 21:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User:Alinnisawest/Critical Feedback Alinnisawest (talk) 21:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done (hope nobody minds me stepping in, but as I saw the page...) PeterSymonds (talk) 21:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Alinnisawest (talk) 21:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent) Most welcome. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 21:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another approach is to move the page to <User>/workspace1 and then blank it. The next time you need a workspace, use the page again. This way, you do not need to ask an admin for help. You can work on a few pages at the same time using this technique. -Arch dude (talk) 05:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Terrible Article

New Cumnock. This article is terrible is more ways than one, which I think is obvious. What is the best way to alert others that this page needs to be changed. I know I could but know nothing about the place or how it should be done to make it better, I only know it needs improving. :) 81.157.153.221 (talk) 22:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah that is bad. You could be bold and work on it yourself. If you need help with it, try WP:WikiProject Scotland or WP:WikiProject UK geography, as it falls under both of those. —BradV 22:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have tidied the images into a gallery, and provided the two (very inexperienced) editors who provided most of the recent content with welcome boxes, which I hope will help them better understand how to contribute more productively. DuncanHill (talk) 22:33, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've cut it back down to a stub. The rest was bordering on "come and support our town". PeterSymonds (talk) 22:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, the only reason it's like that is because it was on 'The Toughest Villages in Britain' and the locals must be supporting it or something. :P 81.157.153.221 (talk) 22:39, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I continued the cleanup and added coordinates. Spencer^T♦^C 00:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do non-account edits count?

I was wondering if anybody could help me. I have only recently created an account, but prior to this, I have edited many grammar and spelling problems, and only about 3 with my account. Are the previous edits linked to my IP address? Or is it just the account? I am thinking of creating a new page, and I realise that I require 10 edits - I don't know whether previous edits count towards these 10, or not. Please help me, if possible!

Thanks

Itsalive4 (talk) 22:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, they don't. Connecting your IP address and account doesn't allow for dynamic IP-addresses, and would pose privacy concerns. You must make 10 edits on your account. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 22:50, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fortunately, you don't need 10 edits to create a new page. Any signed-in user can do that. Algebraist 22:59, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, you only need 10 edits and 4 days for things like editing semi-protected articles and image uploads. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 23:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:AUTOCONFIRM. Spencer^T♦^C 23:47, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can just edit your own user page 10 times if your desperate to edit. i hope the vandals dont read this:) Roadrunnerz45 ^{(talk 2 me)} 04:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that helped! I'll just see what I can keep editing to reach 10 edits!

Itsalive4 (talk) 09:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to reduce your odds of coming back to ask Why was my article deleted?, you could tell us about the article you want to create, and we could comment on its potential notability and other possible grounds for deletion. Wikipedia deletes thousands of articles by new users for failing to comply with our complex and unobvious policies and guidelines, so a little discussion here before you plunge ahead could save you some grief. Some types of articles are deletion magnets (such as: articles about someone's garage band), while other articles are more likely to "stick" (such as an article about a major public work in your area, such as a large dam or bridge). We can at least tell you if your topic starts out with a bullseye on its back. --Teratornis (talk) 18:20, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May 31

found a strange editor - vandalism ?

check out Jhovstkepp

Machete97 (talk) 02:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not seeing any vandalism here. Looks like he accidentally (or maybe intentionally) created an article page on his user page the moved it into article space when he felt it was ready to "go live". Usually when people do that, they do it with a subpage rather than their main user page, but there's nothing wrong with doing it that way... who am I to judge? -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 02:21, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know what "wrong" means either, but I do know "inexpedient." Creating articles directly on one's User page may confuse other editors, as it did in this case, because the user page does not label itself clearly as being a sandbox or scratch page. User subpages are much better for this, because: (a) more users would recognize them as sandbox pages, and (b) an informative user will label his or her subpage collection and explain what they are (for example, I label mine here: User:Teratornis#User sub-pages - hmmm, and come to think of it, maybe I don't want that hyphen). On Wikipedia it is customary for every user to explain his or her actions to other users, for example by leaving informative edit summaries, and by explaining complex actions on talk pages. I think labeling one's user subpages clearly enough to be understandable is in keeping with that spirit. After all, Wikipedia cannot hold together unless users can easily figure out what other users are doing. --Teratornis (talk) 18:13, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Camp Rock (soundtrack)'s text

Resolved

I'm currently cleaning up the above article. If you look at the article, you should notice that it doesn't have external links and it's references. If you edit the article, the external links and refs are there. I can't seem to find out why the refs and external links don't show without being edited. Is it a wikimarkup problem or is it just my PC? Much help would be appreciated. Thanks. -- RyRy5 (talk) 06:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi RyRy5. In my experience the most common reason for this sort of error is a badly-formatted reference, so the first thing I checked was whether the end of the displayed text was a reference. Sure enough it was, and that ref was missing its </ref> tag. So the entire rest of the article was being interpreted as part of the reference, and not as text to display. I've fixed it now.

In this case the ref was the last in the article, but sometimes it can happen earlier on:

<ref>My friend told me it was true

Here is some lovely prose for my article

<ref>How could you even doubt this fact?</ref>

And some more prose

Causing the "Here is some..." paragraph to disappear mysteriously because the software is waiting to find a </ref> tag.

Best, Olaf Davis | Talk 08:10, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed that before. Thanks, Olaf Davis. Regards, RyRy5 (talk) 08:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is a shame that MediaWiki cannot automatically detect an unclosed <ref> tag. That's such an easy error to make, and the result is baffling to a user who hasn't learned about it yet. The Help desk gets this question fairly often. I can't imagine the error would be all that hard to detect in the software. But maybe it is hard to detect, since we have had this problem for a long time. --Teratornis (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, its simplistically easy to detect. However, as a general rule, MediaWiki tends to take a hands-off approach to user submissions and does not throw errors or "adjust" the user's input in any way. Traditionally, the detection and correction of problems such as these have been left to bots. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 18:00, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Calumny of spam to giacomo.lorenzoni.name.

RESPONSE TO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Spam-blacklist#giacomo.lorenzoni.name

79.25.115.224 (talk) 07:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps giacomo.lorenzoni.name it is “Spam” also in

http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Codes (http://www.cfd-online.com/Wiki/Codes#Solvers "PEEI: a computer program for the numerical solution of differential analytical models (i.e. systems of partial differential equations)."

http://www.mathcs.carleton.edu/probweb/probweb.html (Teaching Resources) "Analytical Argumentations of Probability and Statistics by Giacomo Lorenzoni."

http://www.matematicamente.it/siti_di_matematica/siti_di_matematica/probabilita_e_statistica_20070626179/ "Argomentazioni analitiche di probabilità e statistica (Giacomo Lorenzoni)"

http://www.dmoz.org/World/Italiano/Scienza/Matematica/ "Argomentazioni analitiche di probabilità e statistica"

?

79.25.115.224 (talk) 07:16, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, I don't understand what question you're trying to ask about using Wikipedia. Do you have one? Olaf Davis | Talk 12:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A quick question...

Can recently deleted images be possibly undeleted? That's all thanks. --.:Alex :. 09:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Depends. Yes, if they're not copyvios. What image did you have in mind? PeterSymonds (talk) 09:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One that was deleted because it was unused. An IP vandal removed it for no apparent reason and consequently it was deleted because no one noticed it had been removed. I'll have to check the name of it though. --.:Alex :. 16:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleting desktop icon?

Resolved

– Use Ref Desk

I went to copy this picture;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Anarchy-symbol.svg

and put it on my friends desktop as a joke and it came out a little square that we now cannot get rid of.

Right ckicking on it doesn't provide a delete link like any other icon does.

How can we get this outta this computer?

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.7.59.204 (talk) 11:49, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just change the background to something else? It's not an icon. -mattbuck (Talk) 12:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also this page is for asking questions about using Wikipedia - the computing section of the reference desk is a better place if you have similar questions in future. Olaf Davis | Talk 12:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Font

Resolved

– Font discovered by user.

What font is the Wikipedia logo? Like where it says WikipediA, The Free Encyclopedia. I've read it somewhere on the wiki. StewieGriffin! • Talk 14:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The closest I can find is Times New Roman. It's the same as the font, but the W doesn't cross over, I think that was drawn manually...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 14:41, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That would make WIKIPEDIA...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 14:45, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's Hoefler Text.StewieGriffin! • Talk 14:54, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I thought this question came up before, so I searched the Help desk archive for: Search Help desk for: wikipedia logo font. That finds this previous question:
Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 May 21#Wikipedia logo font

in which a user claimed it's a Bodoni font. However, Wikipedia:Wikipedia logos#The current logo says the logo caption is in Hoefler Text Small caps. --Teratornis (talk) 17:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, we also have an FAQ entry about the logo: WP:MFAQ#LOGO. --Teratornis (talk) 18:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HELP
Hi,
I was hoping you could help. After some articles online I have found out that Michael Tsarion no longer has a wikipedia site. Why has it been taken down? I find this most upsetting as Michael Tsarion is just about to release a book completely about Astro-Theology, which is a subject that your site has written nothing about <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astro-theology> This subject is one of the hottest topics right now in alternative research and it would be of great help if you could bring this information out. - Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.236.29.255 (talk) 16:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC) [reply]
It turns out I deleted that a while back; the discussion is here. Wikipedia's editors reached a consensus that the article did not meet the inclusion criteria, which are WP:N, WP:V, WP:BIO, WP:RS and WP:NPOV. Hope this helps. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also see: Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? That page has instructions on how to find alternative wikis which accept a wider range of topics about alternative research (and almost everything else) than Wikipedia currently does. --Teratornis (talk) 18:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looking for Astrotheology? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:02, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image deletion
Resolved
– Requester figured out his/her own question. -- RyRy5 (talk) 21:34, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone knowledgeable about image policy can help me with this one - fill me on in the applicable policy, point me to the appropriate help desk - I'd really appreciate it. I left the below message on an admin's talk page who deleted an image I recently uploaded:
Sorry to be another one of those folks, but, "you deleted my image" - File:Kips bay.jpg. I was wondering - is there any recourse for me on this? I found the NYPL link on Wikipedia:Public_domain_image_resources, and I did actually call the permissions desk of the library, where I was verbally granted permission to use this image on Wikipedia. Did I tag improperly? Is this not a valid way to "earn" permission to use an image? I'm admittedly a bit naive on this front, but I'd really like to use this image for Landing at Kip's Bay (for obvious reasons). Thanks for any help you can give. Tan | 39 17:01, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Figured it out on my own, resolved. Tan | 39 17:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Copyright
I am creating an initial draft for an article. I used a good source [3] here. There is a paragraph where several information comes from the said source. I am a bit confused over copyvio question. Can anyone please tell if this paragraph constitutes coyvio of this reference? I have vastly changed the semantics and there are no other source available for this information. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 18:35, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I personally don't think so, but a good way to avoid copyright infringement/plagiarism that I recently learned in school is to first take notes from the reference (like on note-cards), then re-write it in your own words, therefore eliminating any chance of possible copyright infringement. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 19:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Globe logo
I was reading recently that the Wikipedia Globe logo wasn't as clear as one on another language wikipedia. I've searched the village pump but I can't find this discussion. Could anyone help? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.143.81.140 (talk) 21:17, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How did you search the Village pump? The {{Google custom}} template has some searches on the Village pump archive pages; did you try those? Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia logos#Smoothing the logo? mentions a difference between the logo appearance on the French and English Wikipedia, and sure enough, I see it. Is that what you mean by "clear"? --Teratornis (talk) 01:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How to relocate picture on Wikipedia article.
When the article Ferrari is viewed using Mozilla Firefox RC2, the image captioned "A Ferrari 312PB during the team's final year in the World Sportscar Championship." appears to be overlapped partially by the line of text above it. I intend to move the image down slightly in order to solve this problem, however I am unable to find any material in the help section instructing me on how to do this. Any replies will be greatly appreciated. Dav115 (talk) 22:14, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Doing... I believe placing <br clear="all"/> right after the image should fix it. I'll try. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 23:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done - the image might be in the wrong place though... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 23:05, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You could try using a gallery tag to organize the images. See Wikipedia:Gallery tag and an example in High-visibility clothing#Gallery for one possibility. --Teratornis (talk) 01:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant, thank you both very much for your help. Dav115 (talk) 18:29, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I moved the 312PB image to line up opposite the World Sportscar Championship section. The white space after the previous section is still really ugly though. – ukexpat (talk) 14:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect
Should a redirect ever have categories (e.g. Exocomp)? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For my $.02, I don't believe so. The redirect simply points to another page, which has categories of its own. TN‑X-Man 22:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) Yes they have categories depedning on what type of redirect they are, there is an abbreviations redirect category, a misspelling category, an alternative name category and a bunch of other categories I can't remember...--Serviam (talk) 22:50, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Categorizing redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:48, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 1
CSD A7
Resolved
– Article must assert subject's notability. If it even has a vague/hoax-y assertion, off to AFD it goes. (PeterSymonds's reply, basically) Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 18:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This may not be the right place to ask this, but I seem to be having some trouble understanding CSD A7. Like when an article should be tagged with it or not. I've been around for a while, but I can't seem to get a handle on this criteria. Any help with explaining it would be greatly appreciated. Thingg ^⊕^⊗ 04:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether you have seen the documentation, so my answer must branch:
If you have not seen the documentation, see: WP:CSD#A7.

If you have seen the documentation, tell us which part you did not understand, and we will explain further. Sometimes it turns out that a documentation page is unclear, and if we find out exactly which part was confusing, we can improve it for the next reader.

More information about the deletion process is at WP:EIW#Delete. You probably need to read the (many) pages that the section in WP:CSD#A7 links to, so you understand the underlying concepts of notability and so on. See WP:WWMPD for information from the perspective of the "victims" of deletion. If you are the one placing these templates on articles, no matter how much they deserve it, you should still be sensitive to what it feels like on the receiving end. --Teratornis (talk) 04:41, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This means a subject must be notable with secondary sources etc. If not it will be deleted. I think this is resolved now. StewieGriffin! • Talk 09:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite. It's if the subject does not assert notability. If there is an assertion, then it can't be A7'd. Even if it's non-notable with a vague assertion of notability, it should go to AfD. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually the standard for A7 isn't even that high: An article about a real person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content that does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. This is distinct from questions of verifiability and reliability of sources, and is a lower standard than notability. (from WP:CSD#A7, emphasis added) – ukexpat (talk) 16:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Vague external link
Resolved
Is there any template to indicate that an external link (used as a reference[4]) has not been specified precisely enough? --Eleassar ^{my talk} 06:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe ^{[citation needed]} ({{fact}}), followed by your "not-specified-precisely-enough" ref. StewieGriffin! • Talk 09:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Or take it out completely. If it doesn't accurately verify the information, then it shouldn't be there. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 09:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. I think ^{[citation needed]} could be used instead. Check out the policy page. StewieGriffin! • Talk 09:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If I were you I'd take it out and seek out the person who put it there, perhaps via the article's talk page, and invite them to replace it if they can be more specific. Of course, if you can work out how to clarify it yourself that's even better - but leaving it with a {{fact}} template is definitely not ideal. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The ideal would be to fix it, but you can tag it with {{dubious}}. A list of related tags are in the See also for {{fact}}. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Images
Resolved
Someone has just uploaded Image:Potter.JPG It is a copyvio (http://www.theposh.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10427~1157434,00.html). Should it be marked for sd or not? Anonymous101 (talk) 12:50, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
{{db-imgcopyvio}}. x42bn6 Talk Mess 16:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, added to image Anonymous101 (talk) 19:56, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
FYI for the Help Desk volunteers
In the event we get the Avril vandal again (those who were here a moment ago, or frequent the Ref Desks, will know who I mean), memorize your Wikipedia:Keyboard shortcuts so that you can search through the various header templates we use to find the one that got vandalized. In this case, it was WP:HDPATROL that got hit, so don't expect it to be something obvious - if it transcludes here, it'll display here. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 13:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Avril Lavigne attack?
Something's up; but it doesn't appear to be vandalism I can point out. I was recently at WP:ANI and had a bunch of text and a picture of Avril Lavigne cover up most of the page. Today it's on my user page and nobody has touched my userpage recently. Does anyone ese see this too? Thanks for your time. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 14:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It was vandalism on the template {{userpageinfo}}. Should be fixed now. Cquan ^{(after the beep...)} 14:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay. For a minute there I thought I was going to have to go to the Ref desk for help on a Avril virus. :) §hep • ¡Talk to me! 14:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was pretty obnoxious...it's a bit early in the morning here and I thought I was having a mental breakdown or something. Cquan ^{(after the beep...)} 14:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's been sent to checkuser, so it should be handled shortly. Hersfold non-admin^(t/a/c) 15:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Using the wikipedia articles
Hi,
Can I use the articles on wikipedia on my website? It is for educational purposes only. How should I do so? Is saying it is from wikipedia is enough?
219.93.152.12 (talk) 16:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. All articles are licensed under GDFL, so you can use them anywhere for any purpose. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 17:09, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content and WP:EIW#Reusing. --Teratornis (talk) 18:11, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
listing a person on wikipedia
how is a person listed or newly added to your encyclopedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokesya (talk • contribs) 17:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An article is created by Wikipedians or people just like you or me. In order to create an article, first one must create an account (which it appears you've already done). Once you are ready to start your article, simply go to the page where you'd like to write. The easiest way to do that is to enter the person's name in the Search Box on the right, then click "Go". At that point, you can create the article. See "Your first article" for more information on this, including the Wikipedia pillars of verifiability, reliable sources, and neutral point of view.

Because you are writing an article about a person, you also need to determine if this person is notable enough for Wikipedia. Take a look at the notability requirements for people before you get started on the article. If you are writing about a living person, also take a look on our requirements on biographies of living persons. If you are planning to write about yourself, I would encourage you to think twice before doing that. See our guidelines on autobiographies for reasons why this is a bad idea. Good luck! -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 17:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You might try the Article wizard to get going. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:51, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Cannot find articles anymore. Please help me!
Hi, I am new here and I need help. I tried to find some articles about Pokemon here but every time when I click on a name of a Pokemon in List of Pokemons I get to a wrong page with only some sentences to them. I can't find the big articles of each Pokemon anymore. I am really sad because I want to inform me about some Pokemon and I thought I would find information here but I don't. :-( I am sure I saw big articles about some Pokemon some months ago when I saw this website the first time. But I can't find them anymore. :-( Please help me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.119.20 (talk) 20:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The articles were redirected from the Pokemon article to the list of pokemeon. This probably happended due to notability failure of the original article. Articles like Pikachu are notable enough to have it's own article. Hope this helps. -- RyRy5 (talk) 21:07, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can find the former content of a redirected page although it's no longer considered a part of the encyclopedia. When you click a name on List of Pokémon, the top of the page may say something like "(Redirected from Parasect)". Click the name there, then click the "history" tab, and click on the date of an older version of the page from before it was redirected. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much! :-) Now I know how to find the articles about Pokemon. But I can't understand why they make it so difficult. How shall everyone find them without asking how to? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.167.73.174 (talk) 15:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Search box
Dear to whom it mat concern, can i ask that the search function could be moved to the top, underneath the wikipedia badge.
Sacavsworld (talk) 21:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There's an ongoing discussion of this at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Move the search box directly beneath the puzzle globe. Algebraist 21:22, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
commons flickr uploader bot
At http://toolserver.org/~magnus/tusc.php I accidentally used my commons password. I did not notice that it said not to until after I did so. How can I undo this so that I can upload from flickr.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The simplest solution would just be to change your commons password. -mattbuck (Talk) 01:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is the same as my WP password and I would forget another password.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Combining category and template search
I am interested in identifying all articles in a particular **category** that have been flagged as unverified, partially cited, or dubious. I understand how to get the list of pages linking to "Template:Unreferenced"; but I'd like to further narrow that voluminous list to articles about particular subjects. I've tried using Google Advanced Search of Wikipedia.org specifying various combinations of the "unreferenced" text, and have tried toggling the namespace boxes within Wikimedia search; nothing seems to give me enough results to satisfy me that these techniques are correct :) Does anybody have any advice for me? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.212.50.2 (talk) 22:35, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You want WP:CATSCAN. Algebraist 22:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My wikilink doesn't work
Hi boyz, I've made this edit disambguating a wikilink. It doesn't work due to the pipe ( | ) used in it (see the 1st reference). Why does it happen? J alo 23:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I hopefully fixed it, was that what you were wanting?.<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 23:44, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Tinkleheimer's fix did it, you added a | at the end of the link which made it show as a blank. You may also want into linking to the wikisource equivalent of the page using [[Wikisource:Germania|Germania]] Germania. -Optigan13 (talk) 23:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ooops, I've supposed it was made automatically. On it.wiki does. Really thanks. J alo 20:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
June 2
creating article lead section that is not included in article outline
My question is the following: How do I create an article title and lead section without them being included in the article outline?
There is a lot of information on wikipedia on the style, content, and format that a lead section should have. However, I can find nothing on how to create a lead section. For example, if I use the sectioning syntax (=, ==, ===, etc.) to create a title, then this title will be included in the article outline. Using the "edit this page" tab does not help as it does not show the source for the lead section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koures (talk • contribs) 01:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Click "edit this page" and write the lead at top of the edit box before the first section heading == ... ==. The article title is automatically the name of the edited page and is not written in the edit box. By the way, the list of linked section names is called the table of contents. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And see: WP:SECT#Section editing and WP:SECT#Editing before the first section. I will look at WP:LEAD and make sure it tells how to edit the lead section. --Teratornis (talk) 02:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Amazingly, it appears that WP:LEAD does not tell anywhere how to edit the lead section. It just talks about what the lead section should contain. Obviously that could confuse a new user who reads WP:LEAD before reading WP:SECT. I will fix that later this evening, unless someone else beats me to it. I'm thinking to add a small section: WP:LEAD#How to edit that will summarize this: WP:SECT#Editing before the first section. --Teratornis (talk) 02:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually there were a few sentences in WP:LEAD#Sections and table of contents that mentioned how to edit the lead section, but they were probably not clear to new users, so I expanded them into WP:LEAD#How to edit. I added some section shortcuts to it (for example, WP:LEAD#EDIT). --Teratornis (talk) 02:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
problem with search bar
Recently there has been a change in the response I get from the search bar.Instead of getting a list of previous enteries starting with the same letters I get a long alphabetic list of subjects I had never entered.This list covers the Go and Search options so all I can do to get to a page is press the enter key.How can I get back to the previous enterie list? 24.251.64.139 (talk) 03:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you have an account, you can click on "My Preferences", then click on the "Search" tab, then click on the checkbox labelled "[] Disable AJAX Suggestions". This will allow your browser to fall back to its original behavior (which is actually a browser function). -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 04:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Need help
I'm looking for some help to prepare for this:

Coming July 15th to the Awards Center: The Around the World Competition. Three types of awards will be presented, including a World Champion Trophy! Hone your advanced tools skills, 'cuz you'll need them! If you'd like to be kept up to date on this and other happenings at the AWC, sign up to receive the AWC Newsletter here.
Specifically, I need someone who knows how to edit images.
Please contact me on my talk page.
The Transhumanist 07:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Left user a note to contact me. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 15:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Page listing
Is there a way to get a list of pages I have created? Clarityfiend (talk) 07:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right here. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 07:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 15:42, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sort user contributions
How do I get a list of a particular user's contributions sorted by the number of characters they added in each contribution? Thanks! --Pascal666 (talk) 09:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's an interesting question. Special:Contributions does not seem to display the number of characters per edit at all. I guess that information is only in the history of a given page. Most likely, to generate this kind of information for a given user, you would have to figure out the links under WP:EIW#Query. I haven't gotten that far myself, so unfortunately I can't help you yet. However, the Help desk gets a steady trickle of requests for reports that evidently could only come from SQL queries on Wikipedia's database. Therefore, it would be nice if we had a good answer for these types of questions, as in actually being able to run the queries ourselves. You might try asking again on WP:VPT where there are usually more technically-inclined people. --Teratornis (talk) 16:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User Box
How to make user boxes on the right side of the page like the one used in Jimbo Wale’s Page Tyw7, formerly Troop350 (talk) 09:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That requires you to use a certain userbox template. I use it on my userpage too. Put this into the edit window of your userpage;
{{Userboxtop |(title)}} {{Userboxbottom}}
And then copy & paste your userboxes inbetween them. See how that works, & tell me if you get stuck. :-) Lra drama 10:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
mars moon was it eclipsed
mars moon was it eclipsed I have seen a flying saucer and it left some information in my head (downloaded) now sounds Nuts now THE INFORMATION LEFT WAS MY RETURN TO EARTH as they left vision of leaving a golden planet then over orange planet (pressumed Mars )then the moon dazzling bright now sceptic myself as they even shown me my mother bearing me as young woman now if faulse as most people I would say well who is playing games now this occured over 14 years ago now if true proves I have returned from another planet if faulse I am man enough to understand what ever came was some kind of joke well laugh as I will as unlike many whom dont question things I want to find the truth as a family man father of 4 children logic would say keep mouth shut keep marching now on the other hand proves life continues beyond our realms and futher more flying saucers do exist and of course I am from Fyegoir a golden planet in another universe that would be a big surprise indeed anyway where the planets eclipsed in May 1958 or maybe time conception as who would know as time of entery to the body now I seen my enterey my birth this is really questionable phenomina now please respect my privacy as a family man some things are sensitive as many say in questioning we learn life is but a question unfolds the days we live our lives whom has the answers is indeed questionable within its self as we are all learning beings on the learning planet for the wise ones make it too the higher worlds for the greater knowlage we must question as the truth is out there ! so it is said ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.100.198.131 (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow - that's just one massive sentence...rather confusing...erm... Lra drama 12:24, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. You may not realize it but your stream of consciousness post appears to be just shy of word salad to outside readers. The subject also, shows a lack of touch with reality. I know you believe what you are saying to be true and you already stated that it may "now sounds Nuts"— well I wouldn't have put it that way—but I hope you will give at least some consideration to seeing a mental health professional.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:07, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
referencing my edit to the article on Carmenere wine
Hi I'm a grower of this grapevine and yesterday made a change to the text to correct an error (about why the grapevine has a name derived from the french word for crimson). I attempted to reference this to myself - essentially a personal (though well qualified) comment - with a link to our website. The source of the information I was trying to reference to was our website page (http://www.amietta.com.au/nbspnbspnbspnbspnbspWines/AngelsShareCabernetblend/tabid/64/Default.aspx).
The change to the text has remained, but the reference and link have gone. So now the author of the incorrect data is referenced as the source of the corrected data. My ego isn't troubled - it's just that it's not an accurate reference. If you think it's worth changing, perhaps you could let me know how to do it. Regards Nicholas Clark Amietta Vineyard and Winery www.amietta.com.au —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.179.170.135 (talk) 13:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the article history, it was removed as a spam link. Please discuss this with concerned editors at Talk:Carménère. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sort table by numbers
I can't seem to get sorting by number of deaths to work at List of events named massacres. Any ideas how to fix it? Thanks! --Pascal666 (talk) 13:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you want Help:Sorting#sorting with hidden sortkey. Algebraist 13:44, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can use {{nts}} to do this. The problem is that you are sorting number, ranges of numbers and text. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 13:46, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Request for welcome message
Where would I go to request a welcome message for a new user? Here's his/her talk page: User talk:Jain puneet. He/She seems really keen and I'll help with the specific requests regarding WP:Verifiability but it would be nice to put up a welcome note. Also, who determines whether a new user receives a welcome message? Zain Ebrahim (talk) 15:32, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can use any of the templates listed at Wikipedia:Welcoming committee/Welcome templates. Any user can be given a welcome note, and although there is a welcoming committee, there's nothing to stop any user welcoming. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 15:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Peter! Zain Ebrahim (talk) 15:45, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The template in question could be {{subst:welcome}} Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 15:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I find WP:Friendly a useful tool. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:19, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy deletion of Vladimir Pak
--123FM (talk) )
Whay do you deleted Pak Vladimir??[5]--123FM (talk) 16:25, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Vladimir Pak has not been deleted, but it should be. See Wikipedia:Notability. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whay??--123FM (talk) 16:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is no assertion of notability. Who is he? What makes him important? He is the mayor of Nevelsk, but that is another article with similar issues. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added back the speedy tag and cautioned 123FM about removing it. – ukexpat (talk) 16:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Missed that. Its gone now. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 16:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
matlab problem with nonlinear curve fitting
Hi I made two functions

gaussian_rational.m
function [f]=gaussian_rational(q,p) An=[-0.0013 0.0136 -0.0550 0.1002 -0.0067 1.0000]; Bn=[-0.0091 0.0882 -0.3080 0.4143 0.0002 0.4364]; Cn=[-0.0071 0.0636 -0.1946 0.1961 0.0268 0.3036]; f=(polyval(An,p)+polyval(Bn,q))/(1+q*polyval(Cn,p));

transmittance.m
%funtion for calculating the transmittance function output=transmittance(coeff,z) %some other necessary data Imax=0.5787;leff2=1;leff3=1;z0=447; output=pfun((sqrt(2*coeff(1)*Imax^2*leff3))/(1+(z/z0)^2))*qfun((coeff(2)*Imax*leff2)/(1+(z/z0)^2))*gaussian_rational(((coeff(2)*Imax*leff2)/(1+(z/z0)^2)),((sqrt(2*coeff(1)*Imax^2*leff3))/(1+(z/z0)^2)));

then i used the second one in my main program

%loading input data load D:/B-62.5um-60-220uw-T200uw-1.dat zinp=B_62(:,1);tinp=B_62(:,2); tmax=max(tinp); tinp=tinp./tmax; figure plot(zinp,tinp,'r.'); figure tinp=smooth(tinp); [tmin,tposmin]=min(tinp); temp=zinp(tposmin);
for i=1:length(zinp) zinp(i)=zinp(i)-temp; end
plot(zinp,tinp,'.') XLABEL('Z in micro meters'); YLABEL('Transmittnce');

%some other necessary data Imax=0.5787;leff2=1;leff3=1;z0=447;
%initial guess
coeff0=[0.064 12.5];
[newcoeff,error] = lsqcurvefit(@transmittance,coeff0,zinp,tinp);
figure

I am getting the following error.

??? Error using ==> lsqncommon at 101 LSQCURVEFIT cannot continue because user supplied objective function failed with the following error: Error using ==> mpower Matrix must be square.
Error in ==> lsqcurvefit at 182 [x,Resnorm,FVAL,EXITFLAG,OUTPUT,LAMBDA,JACOB] = ...
Error in ==> program1 at 39 [newcoeff,error] = lsqcurvefit(@transmittance,coeff0,zinp,tinp);

can somebody please help me out............
Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 18:35, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Does this page need wiki cleanup?
The English on this wikipedia page is quite bad, and seems a bit stilted. But I don't know how to mark it for cleanup. Do you a) agree it needs cleanup, and b) if so, mind putting the tag in? Thanks - andrew. --212.183.134.210 (talk) 19:05, 2 June 2008 (UTC) THe page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soci%C3%A9t%C3%A9_%C3%A0_responsabilit%C3%A9_limit%C3%A9e[reply]
{{copyedit}} certainly looks appropriate there. I'll add it for you. --ais523 19:16, 2 June 2008 (U T C)
Ah, someone else already tagged it (with the stronger {{cleanup-rewrite}}) while I was writing that. --ais523 19:18, 2 June 2008 (U T C)
(edit conflict)I added {{cleanup-rewrite}}, as I couldnt even make sense of a lot of it. I'd imagine this has been translated (poorly) from French. Fribbler (talk)

Administrations,Whay did you poorly translated from French?--123FM (talk) 20:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For future reference: Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
outdent - I will try to clean it up a little tomorrow when I have more time. – ukexpat (talk) 00:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Becoming a wikipedia page patroler
How? Do you become a wikipedia page patroler 142.58.81.157 (talk) 21:29, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All you have to do is monitor Special:Newpages. Also, you can add {{User wikipedia/NP patrol}} to your user page. Just mark the pages as patrolled (there's a link in the bottom right) as you look at them. Good luck! TN‑X-Man 21:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well that might have been throwing the new guy into the fire :-) Your first step is probably to create an account - see here - and then read up on the Recent Changes Patrol instructions/guidelines. You will also want to familiarize yourself with applicable Wikipedia policies - start here. Let me know if you have any more questions! Tan | 39 21:40, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fire, schmire. Just kidding. Tan39 is absolutely correct, though. Read up on the guidelines and create an account, but always feel free to jump in! If you have any questions, there's plenty of people willing to help out. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 00:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Superhero boxes
Hello. I am new to wikpedia and I believe there is something reffered to as "Superhero Boxes". They show the stats of superheroes and villains and whatnot. However I don't know how to make them. Help me please? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Techno^Punk (talk • contribs) 21:56, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome to Wikipedia. I believe what you are referring to is what we call an "infobox". Infoboxes provide a standardized way to enter in summary data about an article's subject. We have dozens, if not hundreds, of infoboxes for all kinds of things, from politicians to plant species to comic book characters. The infobox you are probably interested in is {{infobox superhero}}. Also, please look at our information on templates on how to use all kinds of templates, including infoboxes, on Wikipedia. Lastly, you might be interested in Wikipedia's project on comics. The people there should be happy to assist you with comics/superhero-specific questions. Good luck! -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 22:10, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Usually an infobox appears in the lead section of an article, and sometimes this confuses new users, who don't see an obvious way to edit the text at the top of an article. See WP:LEAD#EDIT for tips. --Teratornis (talk) 02:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changing Template?
Hi. I've uploaded the SVG version of an image on Commons.
now I see the "SVG image needed..." template can be changed with "SVG image available..." but I really can't work out how to do that.
can anybody help? thanks
this is the page I would like to edit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Germanen_50_n._Chr.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by Qiovanni (talk • contribs) 14:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your contribution to Wikipedia. You might be having problems changing the template because the image is actually not on Wikipedia, but on commons at commons:Image:Germanen_50_n._Chr.png. From here, you can click on "Edit", then just replace {{svg|map}} with {{Vector version available|new image name.svg}} -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 22:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
June 3
using linux
can you use netzero internet with linux you can email me.4.152.207.17 (talk) 00:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean using wikipedia to email others or just email itself? And I have to remove your email address as that is personal info. -- RyRy5 (talk) 00:39, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What he means is, "Does Netzero internet work in Linux?" Have you tried the Computing section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 00:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
technical difficulties?
Am I the only one having difficulties accessing editing pages and history pages? (And some image pages?) When I try to edit or view a page history while logged in I get "Detected bug in an extension! Hook CentralAuthHooks::onGetUserPermissionsErrorsExpensive failed to return a value; should return true to continue hook processing or false to abort." and then a backtrace mentioning a bunch of PHP files starting with "/usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Title.php(1156): wfRunHooks('getUserPermissi...', Array)".
I assume this is a server error, but other people seem to be posting with no trouble. 24.2.176.64 (talk) 03:03, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This question would probably be better asked at the village pump (technical), as we Help Desk volunteers aren't developers or anything... but thanks for pointing it out. It appears to be a problem with Single User Login. You may want to see the technical village pump to see if anyone else has been having this problem, if not, please bring it up there. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 03:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Will do, thanks. 72.10.110.107 (talk) 13:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
adding categories to my user page
Hello,
I have had a look at all of the FAQs but cannot find the answer to this. I also have comment, but am unsure where to direct.
Q.1: I want to add categories to my user page; I noticed other users pages and copied source code from their page to mine (For example I added myself to the category of "Wikipedians in London") But I would like to browse other categories to which I can add myself. After extensive searching through pages of the categories list**, there seem hundreds of thousands of categories and I cannot find what I am looking for. I read your page about not having a tree structure, which is what I was looking for. I would like to know if there is a specific page on wikipedia which users can draw from to choose sensible* (i.e. *not such categories as "°C-ute members"), particularly categories (that are relevant wikipedians' personal pages.
Q.2: I would also like to know how the 'signpost' boxes for representing a category were invented? As these are really nice. For example the box 'logo' that appears on the "Wikipedians in London".
C.1: The comment I'd like to make (or redirect?) is that it would maye be useful to have categories relevant to user pages separately listed. The nearest I can find to the kind of page I am looking for is in this list **http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ACategories&offset=Wikipedians. Some kind of tree structure would be helpful because there are so many. For example, "Wikipedians by alma mater..." goes on for 1000+ entries; I would find it more helpful to have them grouped under one "Wikipedians by alma mater..." at first and then the specific ones listed as sub-categories. This may already exist and I have simply misunderstood the search function, or another page exists with this information on that I didn't know about.
C.2 It probably is mentioned in one of the help pages somewhere, but would be very useful if this search page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Categories had a reference on it to say that searching categories is case sensitive.
Hope you can help. Thanks.
Applet (talk) 04:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The master category for such things is Category:Wikipedians -- if you browse around it's sub-categories (there are a lot) you may be able to find what you're looking for. Sounds like you're also looking for Wikipedia:Userboxes (page includes a galley of them, towards the bottom). – Luna Santin (talk) 04:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You may prefer to search Wikipedia's Category: namespace with Google, because Google is not case-sensitive with respect to search keywords, and Google suggests alternate spellings. Many folks consider Google to be mostly less annoying than Wikipedia's built-in search feature. I mostly agree with them. See Help:User page so you understand what user pages are for, and see WP:NOT#MYSPACE for what they aren't. Basically, user pages exist primarily to serve the encyclopedia project, not for general socializing, although as you have seen, that rule allows for broad interpretation. Try to at least pretend everything you do on Wikipedia is to make the encyclopedia better, even if indirectly. It helps to study a bunch of featured articles so you can see where we are trying to take all 6,825,820 articles. --Teratornis (talk) 05:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My question
Excuse me hope i am acctually in the write place but i was wondering how do i make my own article for wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ima-m00-c0w-l0l (talk • contribs) 05:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Your first article.
Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one

Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article.

Find references

Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'

Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'

Click 'Create this page'

Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines

Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:30, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Starting new page with existing template
Hi, is it possible to start a new page, for instance:
Today
But when you click on that page, there is content generated automatically with a 'fill in the blanks' kind of scenario?
It's difficult to explain exactly what I mean, so I will try to explain another way.
I want the ability for someone to click on that 'Today' link and when they are presented with the empty new page, there is already data/information there derived from a template.
Thanks Matgraham (talk) 06:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that it could be used for article space, but I do know of someone who uses something similar to this in her user page. Lemme see if I can find it real quick. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:16, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User:Phaedriel uses something like what I think you are looking for for her Today is so and so Wikipedian's day. Here is the code I found on her page:
{{{{FULLPAGENAME}}/Today/{{CURRENTDAY}}}}
Hope this helps :)<3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 06:23, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Brilliant! Thankyou very much, greatly appreciated! Matgraham (talk) 06:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You might be looking for the Article wizard. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
?????
"An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation." What if the article has strong ties to a country that is not an English speaking one? 124.181.14.142 (talk) 07:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, just pick a style of writing and stick to it. Or at least that's what I think you're supposed to do ;). <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 07:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, that's correct. Alternatively, you could judge which English speaking nation it has the most links to- most European topics, for instance, would be in British English. J Milburn (talk) 10:21, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[[Category:Fractions|*]][[Category:Fractions]]
How is [[Category:Fractions|*]] different from [[Category:Fractions]]?68.148.164.166 (talk) 09:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The first sorts the article on which it is placed under the * heading, where as the latter sorts it under the first letter of the article's title. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 09:33, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also see Wikipedia:Categorization#Category sorting. Frequently "main articles" are sorted as '*' so that they're listed first in the category (say, Ship and Category:Ships). – Luna Santin (talk) 09:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the * means that the page gets sorted under the * heading. The latter means that it gets orted under "c" (for Category). On the other hand, [[Category:Fractions|{{PAGENAME}} gets sorted under the F heading, for Fractions. Soxred 93 11:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, if you don't specify anything with a pipe, it defaults to the name of the page; it never gets sorted under "c" for category. Piping {{PAGENAME}} is used to override magic words, so that the page always sort under the page name. Can you imagine how large the C entry would be for every category page if this wasn't true!--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:19, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Citing encyclopædia
When citing an encyclopædia does one give the editor as the author or do you leave it blank? Harland1 (^t/_c) 13:06, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just FYI, the Helpdesk is for questions about using Wikipedia, and in the future questions such as these would be better off at the Reference Desk. It appears that it depends on which style of citation you plan to use - http://lib.trinity.edu/research/citing/books/bookreference.shtml has some examples of citing encyclopedias. -- Natalya 13:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If this question is just about citing an encyclopedia, then I agree that it's better placed at the Reference desk. However, I think it not at all improbable that this question is about citing Wikipedia, but just stated in general language. If so, it is a fine fit with this page. To cite Wikipedia, go to the article you wish to cite, then click on "Cite this page" which is the bottom link on the toolbox menu on the left hand side of the page. As you can see, in many of the citation styles, the author is listed as "Wikipedia contributors". For further information, please see Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia. I hope this helps. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The question might be about citing an encyclopedia as a source for a Wikipedia article. Some articles incorporate text from encyclopedias which are now in the public domain; see: {{1911}} and Wikipedia:1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica. We also have a {{cite encyclopedia}} template to use in footnotes. So, that's three possibilities and counting for this ambiguous question. The questioner could remove the ambiguity by specifying which encyclopedia, and for what. --Teratornis (talk) 23:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, sorry. I was citing an encyclopedia of animals in Long-nosed Potoroo. And I was wondering what to put in the author section. Harland1 (^t/_c) 12:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Modifying an inaccurate entry about me
Hi --
I just encountered a wikipedia entry about me (Rufus Griscom) that is inaccurate, and posted by someone with an axe to grind.
I would like to modify it so that it is accurate, or have someone else do so.
I just registered and went to edit but it looks like only the "references" can be edited. Am I doing something wrong, or do I need to appeal to some higher power to fix this mistake?
Thank you for any help you can offer me with this.
best,
Rufus Griscom
email address removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rufybaby (talk • contribs) 13:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Because editors writing/editing about themselves can sometimes run into trouble, Wikipedia has some good guidelines for dealing with articles about yourself. If you take a look at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help, you should hopefully find the information that you need. If not, please continue your questions! -- Natalya 14:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Anybody can edit, click 'edit this page' at the top to edit the entire page. Fix the changes, being careful of WP:COI...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 14:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I just removed all the POV and unbalanced material from the page. While some was "sourced", the page was clearly made to shed negative light on Mr. Griscom, and until a more balanced page can be written, the material should be deleted per WP:BLP. Not sure why I'm telling you all this, just FYI. Tan | 39 15:17, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
St. Francis High School (La Canada Flintridge) Notable Alumni
URL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Francis_High_School_%28La_Ca%C3%B1ada_Flintridge%29
Addition to Notable alumni:
Carl Verheyen of the Carl Verheyen Band, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Verheyen
Carl graduated from St. Francis in 1972 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.135.0.6 (talk) 15:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What exactly is your question? Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Boy that article (Carl_Verheyen) is a mess. Corvus cornix_talk 16:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello
How are you? I was just curious on how i can add someone without getting it deleted. I have all sources needed, and write-ups etc. Please let me know if i am missing something. I am trying to add Joe Sernio.
Thank you very much for your time in this matter

-At —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthonythorn (talk • contribs) 16:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just click on this link and click "watch" at the top of the article. Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are you talking about the box up the top of Joe Sernio that says that non-notable entries may be deleted? Have you read WP:BIO? While I don't think the article is likely to be deleted soon, you need to do two things to make sure: (1) in the article, include claims of notability (that's pretty much covered) (2) back up these claims (and as much of the rest of the article as possible) with references to reliable, third-party sources. I think you, or someone, has tried to put the references in, but hasn't gotten them quite right - take a look at WP:CITE. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:09, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
IP address of sender in google group
Hi, I am a part of a google group.. Is there a way to trace the ip address of another member of google group who has replied to a posted message on google group?? If yes , how?? Its important for me to know somehow..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.132.3.7 (talk) 16:45, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think you should try the reference desk.Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
MostLinked, filter by namespace
Is there a way to filter these results by namespace? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:MostLinked&limit=500&offset=0 --Rajah (talk) 17:13, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There might not be a simple way. One not so simple way would be to figure out a command pipeline that could grep for the namespace you want to include or exclude. See Complex example for a way to do something that is somewhat similar. --Teratornis (talk) 23:20, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
citation for personal communication
On the Beaver Trilogy Wikipedia page there is a citation needed here: "The original filmmaker self-distributes DVDs in the Salt Lake City area." [6] I am trying to provide that citation since I, myself, have ordered DVDs from Trent Harris in this manner. My question is, how would I provide a citation for this kind of information?
DoctorRocket (talk) 17:52, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Personal experience, etc. is not verifiable, and thus cannot be used in Wikipedia as a source. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:56, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are there any other sources that could be used to back up that statement? A newspaper, magazine, or reliable website would make a good cite. This guide can show you what sources are appropriate. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 19:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could you help out this editor, most courteous ever
I'm taking a break from editing, but found this on my talk page. Could you help the editor out? It seems he can access pages and will probably be looking at my talk page, so you could reply to him there. And I'll look here too. Thanks very much.
Dear Madam,
I had been able to sign up and login an year before in Wikipedia using my username Lutfullah. I had made, if you can kindly remember, a few contributions to the talk page on the article on Shaikh Shafuddin Bu Ali Qalandar of Panipat, India and had answered to your queries on those contributions.
Since yesterday I am finding that every time I try to login to Wikipedia by merely pointing the cursor to the login/create account button and right-clicking it, my browser responds with an error message telling me that Internet Explorer can not access this webpage and I get automatically removed from the Wikipedia portal.
As I could not approach the Wikipedia helpdesk directly, I am requesting you very humbly to take some time out for me and find if I have been blocked out by the Webmasters or contollers for any trespasses of mine yet not known to me. Is there any remedy for this problem? It shall be highly appreciated if you send me a note in reply to my Email address <email address removed> and oblige.
Thanking you with all my heart.59.180.122.229 (talk) 19:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)Lutfullah
Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Itsmejudith"
Itsmejudith (talk) 19:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like there is a problem with login at the moment and brion is looking at it. We may get more problems like this soon. There is more information at WP:VPT#Log in aborted -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:00, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help with this. Itsmejudith (talk) 20:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Should be fixed now. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:47, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comparing pages for criteria
Hi, I recently came across a page for Zyvex, ( a private company ) which looks and reads like marketing material. Why hasn't their page been tagged and deleted? It's hard to know what is correct when there is so much variability on the site. Isn't the Zyvex page considered spam given the Wikipedia guidelines?
Your input would be greatly appreciated as it will help me learn by example.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Susiemauceri (talk • contribs) 20:31, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Be bold and add the tags yourself, if you think the page needs them. This page could be edited to become more neutral, so I would recommend the {{advert}} tag. — Insanity Incarnate 20:36, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Plenty of articles exist that probably should not and many others are in a bad state that haven't yet been tagged for cleanup that should be. There is no central authority that cleans up articles and because of the huge number of articles that are created every day, many slip through the cracks upon creation and may sit around for a very long time without anyone loking at them. So generalizing from any article's existence or state to conclude that it meets policy or has been inspected and "passed" or is "grandfathered in", is faulty. Please see WP:OTHERSTUFF by analogy. You found it, you've read our policies; go right ahead and judge for yourself and do what Insanity Incarnat advised above. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I asked because I modeled the page I wrote after theirs and mine got tagged within the hour and deleted by morning b4 I had a chance to fix it, even though I did post the HANG ON tag after the Speedy Delete banner was posted. However, theirs is still there with no tags at all. How does that work? Pretty confusing. Can anyone offer insight? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Susiemauceri (talk • contribs) 15:51, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Single User Login
If a registered user doesn't make a global account will it at some point in the future be forced on everyone to have Single User Login by the WikiFoundation? 79.76.201.239 (talk) 20:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe so. It's just optional at the moment, and I think it will stay that way. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The plan is that eventually, creating an account on one wiki, will basically give you an account on every wiki automatically. It won't really be "forced" as the process will appear the same as creating an account now, except it will create the global account at the same time without having to manually merge accounts. That probably won't be done until existing conflicts are resolved though. Mr.Z-man 00:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Video
Is it appropriate to include a video from say, YouTube in an article? Thanks, Ζρς ι'β' ^¡hábleme! 21:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It helps if you give us specific examples of the article and the video in question. In general, is it a reliable source, is it relevant to the content, is it a copyright violation? See Wikipedia:External links for full information on linking. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I would like to embed the video of Russell Means found on [7] into the Republic of Lakotah article. It shows his views, opinions, and reasoning. Should it be in the article? Furthermore, how does one embed a video on Wikipedia? The embed code given by YouTube doesn't work. Thanks, Ζρς ι'β' ^¡hábleme! 21:29, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can't embed media directly from external sites. If the video's licensing is appropriate (see commons:Commons:Licensing), it's possible to upload a video in Ogg Theora format and use it as if it were an image. Otherwise, just linking makes more sense than trying to embed, which creates legal problems (copyright) and technical problems (using bandwidth from another site and introducing a security hole). --ais523 21:47, 3 June 2008 (U T C)
You can use the {{YouTube}} template to link to a video. If someone else thinks the link is improper, they will remove it. --Teratornis (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
length of contributions
I've been contributing as a user for the last 2-3 years, but with a different user account. Now, this new one has been only around for 6 months; do i count as an editor for 6 months or 3 years? Ironho lds 23:32, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you yourself as a person have been an editor in total for 3 years, regardless of user accounts! In the technical sense, you've only been editing on this account for 6 months, but you can always reference that you edited under another account before. That's sort of subjective, though... did it help answer your question? -- Natalya 00:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
german to english
Hello, I'd like to view this page in English:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Stauffer
I want to read about Teddy Stauffer, but cannot find anything in English. There is this German page, but I can't figure out how to translate. Can you please help me? Thanks so much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.170.15.177 (talk) 23:38, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't look like there's an English Wikipedia article, but you can use various web translators to translate it into English. Here is the translation that Google did. -- Natalya 00:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A Google search reveals many English language sources where you can read about him. I find machine translations hard to take.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:09, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is a certain sad poetry to "After his lonely death, his ashes into the waters of the Pacific dispersed, as his last will". DuncanHill (talk) 00:45, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What days do we get paid.
I am doing this because I love the gers adn am no worried about the money but I was just thinking wtha you get money and when do you get it? My mate says that its on friday but cant remember how is it weekly or every 2 weeks ????? Like a said its not the money that is the reeson why I doing it, but I was just wanting to know? Will it be send to my email? Thanks. Douglas1690 (talk) 23:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It has already been explained to you on your user talk page by another user that this is a voluntary project.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 23:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It doesnt say that on my user page !! ! ! ! Douglas1690 (talk) 23:59, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As I said above, it was on your user talk page. This is what it says near to the bottom of the page, under the heading "Opinion" and added by the user Rockpocket, in answer to your remark about "clocking in" - "By the way, you don't need to clock in because we don't get paid". Hope that is clear now.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 00:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like a am being bullied cos am new, by celtic and dundee unt fans because they know that I am a gers man. My article has a banner on it, and I feel like there all grumpy and tryiong to scare me off. What can I do? I am doing this cos I love the gers and I want to stop the spam from celtic fans, but IO feel like am being bulied......
Even they make sarcastic things like "we're glad you're here" aye, right! then they say I dont have references on my articles.
Douglas1690 (talk) 00:06, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[First], the users that contribute to Wikipedia aren't paid, this is a totally voluntary project. No one is forced to contribute to the encyclopedia, and [Second], comments like "we're glad you're here" are for welcoming users to the Wikipedia project, not to disturb users. macy^talk 00:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I presume you understand now that this is voluntary? With regard to your last comments, no-one is bullying you and I am sorry you feel that way. It is just how things work on wikipedia that some articles get proposed for deletion, it isn't personal against you, it happen every day. When you say you are new though, on your user page you say that you have "many years editing on Wikipedia as annonymus. So Im not exactly new at this." I would very much doubt that Rockpocket was being sarcastic with the welcome message.♦Tangerines♦·Talk 00:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I accept your apology Douglas1690 (talk) 00:16, 4 June 2008 (UTC) :)[reply]
See another won making fun lokk!!!!!!!!! Fair enough then. The big tag "the free encyclopedia" on the front should really have been a hint :P. byn Rocket!! !!!!!!!! Douglas1690 (talk) 00:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC) I is done with your website now you try and help out and get a bunch of sarcasticness cos Im new. You said you one it before etc.[reply]
June 4
Template problem
Resolved
– Problem solved.--RyRy5 (talk) 07:13, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. If you look here, you should see that the templates are, well, mixed up with eachother. I can't seem to find the problem. I would like to format it like the barnstars and awards above the problem, but I can't see the problem. Please help. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 00:20, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
all fixed. you added an incomplete smile in one of the edits. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:30, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It sometimes gets confusing when you have so many barnstars and awards. :) --RyRy5 (talk) 00:36, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Twin Peak Towers - Wikipedia
I have tried to correct very misleading information about a new apartment building in Jakarta, i.e. Twin Peak Towers. Since the apartment is still actively marketed in Indonesia, it is very important to have the right information posted in wikipedia, otherwise wikipedia can misled potential buyers. For example, there is no bars, restaurants, night club, fleet of Bentley available at Peak and a lot of existing buyers argue about the quality of the buildings (no Italy marble etc). I tried to change the content, but someone named Wandering Canadians, a wikignome always change the page back. Ironically, Wandering Canadians has a motto 'Keeping People Honest'.
I assume that Wandering Canadians is just ignorant / not knowledable about the property in Jakarta/Indonesia, eventhough possible that he is connected to the owner of the property.
Please make wikipedia honest. I have changed the page back but sure Wondering Canadian will change it back. Please stop dishonesty at Wikipedia.
PS: BTW, I tried to contact Wandering Canadians directly but not successful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.158.104.36 (talk) 01:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! Please don't insult other editors; remember to stay civil at all times! :) Also, remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~).

Now, Wikipedia is not for advertising, so we should not be editing pages with potential buyers in mind. Coverage should pertain to notability only, and should not focus on meaningless aspects. Of course, if there is misleading information, you are welcome to correct it, but only if you can prove that the information is false (and, vice versa, that yours is correct) using reliable sources. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 01:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also please note that we are an encyclopedia, not a directory, listing of organizations, or a place to advertise. There is also a very strict policy about only putting in what can be found in reliable, third-party sources. Along with that, there is a guideline/policy which states that if you are editing Wikipedia to promote some non-Wikipedia entity's interests (including yourself or other Wikipedia editors), you have a conflict of interest with Wikipedia. Our goal is to build an encyclopedia. Please keep this in mind while editing. Other policy/guideline/how-to pages you may be interested in seeing are: the notability policy, how to write your first article, and the tutorial. Hope this helps... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 01:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The reason why your updates to the article have been reverted is because they were (to quote from the The Peak Twin Towers article history): "... non-factual and incorrect additions, suspected vandalism" and "... not in accordance with Wikipedia standards or style", or they "... belongs on talk page". The usual practice when adding controversial material to articles, is to cite verifiable information from reliable sources. If other editors disagree with your edit, then perhaps you can raise the problem on the article's talk page and try to reach a consensus with the other editors. Continuing to add your unreferenced information is considered vandalism and will be quickly removed, and you may eventually be blocked from editing. If you wish to contact an individual editor, it is best to do so on their talk page (for example User talk:Wandering canadian), but please remember to remain civil at all times. Astronaut (talk) 03:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Janine Habeck
Resolved
– Fixed
What's going on with the Janine Habeck article? According to this diff there is a newer edit but according to the article's history page, that IS the newest edit. Anyone? Dismas|^(talk) 03:24, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow that is weird, I just made a test edit to see if there was just a problem with the most recent edit, but now it says that my edit is the most recent, but that there is a newer edit. [8] Weird! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:27, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What the... that's an interesting bug, heh. It seems that it's doing that for multiple people, and not just you. Anyway, the bug has been reported to our techies; thanks for bringing it to our attention! :) Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yay, they fixed it. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 03:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good to know I wasn't seeing things! :-) Dismas|^(talk) 05:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion of Chetan Ramlu
Hi There
I have already re-derected the page Chetan Ramlu to Kris Chetan Ramlu. But I would like to delete the Chetan Ramlu page alltogether so there is just the Kris Chetan Ramlu page. The original Chetan Ramlu page was re-directed by a Chetan ramlu page - as you can see this is getting really messy. So if someone could delete the Chetan Ramlu and Chetan ramlu page but leave the Kris Chetan Ramlu page, I would be very greatfull.
Thanks
Rich —Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardbetts (talk • contribs) 09:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think it would be a good idea to delete the redirect "Chetan Ramlu" since it has a number of incoming links that would be broken by deletion; similarly (although less so) for "Chetan ramlu". As the saying goes, redirects are cheap and it doesn't hurt to have these alternative versions of the article title around. Bencherlite ^Talk 10:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed double redirect at Chetan ramlu. As Bencherlite has said, it's probably best to keep both redirect pages, since both have incoming links. haz (talk) 10:22, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
copy picture
how can i copy a particular picture into a file or document. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.68.198 (talk) 10:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This question rteally belongs in the Computer reference desk. Right click on ther picture and click 'save picture as...'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Academy_of_English
I am the Operations Manager at Manchester Academy of English.
We no longer need to publish about our company on Wikipedia and would like to delete it at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Academy_of_English
Although I have tried to add Quick Deletion {QD}}, it doesn't seem to be working.
Any ideas, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.57.236.35 (talk) 11:41, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can't request deletion like that. The subject appears to be notable and therefore it is here to stay. You could try taking it to WP:AFD, but I don't think its deletion will be the outcome. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Manchester Academy of English Wikipedia article does not exist to "publish about" your company, but is an encyclopedia article about a notable subject. Your earlier concerns about not wanting your "... rivals/competitors to make changes to the text to sabotage our reputation" would appear to be unfounded because the article has not been controversially edited since it was created by your "IT assistant". Astronaut (talk) 16:01, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
how can i upload any picture in my article?
how can i upload any picture in my article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.118.50 (talk) 11:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Via Upload file on the toolbox on the left. But first, you must read Wikipedia:Image use policy. Thankyou, Lra drama 11:49, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also note that you must be logged in before you can upload files. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 11:54, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If the image is free, such as something you created or took yourself that you will be releasing, please don't upload it here. Instead upload it to the Wikimedia Commons (a central media repository for all free media). By Creating an account there and then uploading, you allow use of the image here as well as on all other language Wikipedias and all of Wikimedia's sister projects. Also note that if you do not have an account here and you create one now to upload, you will have to wait four days and have 10 edits before you wil be able to do so, whereas you can upload immediately at the Commons, once registered. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why were my posts deleted
Why were my posts deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DelawareNC (talk • contribs) 13:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recently made two posts about Chefs Roland Henin and Rolf Baumann. They were up for awhile but now they have been taken down. Why would his have happened? What do I need to do to post them accurately and have them stay up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DelawareNC (talk • contribs)
They were deleted as blatant copyright violations of http://www.delawarenorth.com/NewsRoom/pdf/home-plate-media-kit.pdf and http://www.delawarenorth.com/NewsRoom/pdf/RolfBaumann.pdf . We cannot accept copyright violations on Wikipedia, and such violations are deleted on sight. See WP:COPYVIO for more information. :-) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 15:25, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
TeeNAgerS~Manga/Anime
TeeNAgerS is a manga made by Tyler Atkinson and Eddward Hogan, this is the plot for it so far. Contact detals removed tell me what you think. ^__^ Please, I'd appreciate it.
removed text so that noone steals it :)Mr. Green^{Hit Me Up}Userboxes 16:40, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This page is for help using Wikipedia. I would normally suggest you take your question to the entertainment reference desk, but I don't think they would offer a review of your amateur manga. I have removed your email address to protect your privacy - this page is highly visible across the internet, and adjusted the paragraph indents so it can be seen clearly.

I also hope you understand that by presenting your work here, you have released it under a GFDL license and as such it is likely to be copied, changed or published elsewhere without your permission. You might want to consider removing your work from this page. Astronaut (talk) 16:10, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Referencing
Hi,
I'm having problems adding references/external notes to articles. I've followed the instructions, but to no avail. I guess I'm doing something very minutely wrong, but I'm at a loss. I tried following the 'cite references' section on the Help Page. But like mentioned above, it didn't work! Could someone please give me a 1,2,3 track approach, or simplify it so a six year old can understand!!
Many thanks.
Theblako (talk) 18:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC).[reply]
Hi there. All you have to do is, after a fact, use <ref> URL here </ref>, and then add {{reflist}} to the bottom of the page. There are ways of formatting the references, notably {{cite web}}, but that's pretty advanced. Hope this helps! Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)*I looked at the article you were recently editing. You did everything exactly right, but forgot to add {{reflist}} to the reference section. That template causes the references to display. I've fixed it, so feel free to take a look! TN‑X-Man 18:14, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the print so small on 'printable version'?
Resolved
Hi...
When I print out an article from the 'printable version' page, the text is minuscule and basically unreadable. My solution has been to cut and paste the text into a Word document and print it from there. But...a lot of the formatting gets lost.
Is there a way to print the 'printable version' with larger text?
I am on a PC with Windows XP and use Mozilla Firefox.
The printer is an HP Laserjet 4050N. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.183.11 (talk) 18:43, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you!
-todd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.183.11 (talk) 18:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What browser are you using? What printer? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:42, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On Firefox, select "Print Preview" under the "File" menu. At the top of the screen in the center, you'll see a "Scale" dropdown. Odds are this is set to a very small number. Select something at or closer to 100%. This should increase the font size in the printed copy to something closer to what you want. -- ShinmaWa^(talk) 20:04, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beautiful. It was set to 'shrink to fit'. Now it's printing fine. Thank you very much, Shinmawa! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.122.183.11 (talk) 20:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest cut and paste, I think this is over now. StewieGriffin! • Talk 20:26, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Stub
Resolved
– Already Done
How do I add the message at the bottom of Capital punishment in Liechtenstein that says that the article is a stub? JoeC 4321 (talk) 20:05, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Look at Capital punishment in Albania for an example. You should add the same categories as well. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:07, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Someone else has already added the stub message but thanks for your help anyway. JoeC 4321 (talk) 20:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 Beautiful. It was set to 'shrink to fit'. Now it's printing fine. Thank you very much, Shinmawa!  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/128.122.183.11|128.122.183.11]] ([[User talk:128.122.183.11|talk]]) 20:21, 4 June 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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