Cum inter nonnullos

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The papal bull Cum inter nonnullos of November 12, 1323 is from Pope John XXII. With her he intervenes drastically in the poverty struggle of the Franciscans .

The poverty struggle

With the bull Ad conditorem canonum (December 8, 1322), the Pope intervened in the dispute over the Franciscan ideal of poverty and transferred the regulation of property ownership from the Church to the religious community . This created a new conflict between the spiritual and the main body of the community . While the representatives of the spiritualistic concept of poverty tried to defend their position by intervening with the Pope, the rest of the religious community remained neutral.

Heresy and Inquisition

The Pope condemns the claim made by the spiritualists that Christ and the apostles had nothing of their own but lived “without their own” (“sine proprio”) as heresy and makes it clear that these claims are a denigration of Scripture . He overruled the opinions and writings of his predecessors and declared that the claims of the incorrigible Spirituals were heresy . He threatened that those who contradicted his declaration would be brought to the Inquisition .

Political Impact

The escalation in the dispute about the Franciscans' ideal of poverty now spread to the political arena. The German King Ludwig the Bavarian subscribed to the Franciscan definition in a declaration . While the causal poverty dispute was pushed into the background in the following period, it was primarily about the order in the world, the law of the church and the state. The result was the papal bull Quia quorundam of November 10, 1324.

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