User talk:Canterbury Tail/Archive 1

Coyright vio on richard Crasta page

Thanks for informing me. I am quite new to wiki. I have put in some content (a minimal one to start with so that I learn the rules first in due time) at the temp page as suggested by the site. Thanx -- Phaedreus

That's okay. It's a valid article to have (thought I would capitalise both names as Richard Castra, I'll happily move the page for you to that title if you like). You cannot copy wordings directly from another site. You can however put things in your own wording and expand upon it. That is fine. Ben W Bell talk 09:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanx again. Please move the page and capitalise both names as you suggested. Phaedreus talk 05:30, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

That has been done. Ben W Bell talk 08:06, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek Online

No worries, easy mistake to make... PE change design details about this game very often, and there's a lot of mixed info out there amongst the interviews and such. Cheers, --Caiman 21:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

NI placenames in Irish

Hi there,

I noticed your edits to my talk page, although you removed them - so apologies for bringing this up (you can always remove my comment here if you like!) Nevertheless, I'll just leave a quick note here re: the Irish placenames.

I realise that it's a slightly controversial addition to the NI pages, but I do see it as being relevant content for the encyclopaedia. Mostly the current placenames are based on the Irish, so it is good to provide information on how towns got their names. Ideally, what the Irish actually means should be added also (it's not on all town articles, north or south, at present).

zoney ♣ talk 15:27, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ulster

I can't agree, its already made abundantly clear earlier in the article what the six counties are.

Lapsed Pacifist 10:42, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Sorry which article again? The Irish Constitution one or the Ulster one? Ben W Bell 10:46, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The Ulster article, it's explained clearly and mentioned twice in the Geography and Demographics section, near the beginning, and again right before your edit.

Lapsed Pacifist 10:52, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Well the line read "While the Ulster Catholics of Northern Ireland have long opposed Northern Ireland's existence, the Ulster Protestants of the three Republic of Ireland counties have assimilated well (although there was a good deal of migration into the six counties following partition)." It just doesn't flow for me, it reads to ambiguously. Six counties is just six counties, could be any counties. Now I have no objections to the use of six counties in this paragraph at all, but do think (personally) that it needs a slight clarification. If you don't want to use "Northern Ireland's six counties" then "other six counties" would work just as well (and would probably resolve having Northern Ireland mention by name so many times in one sentence. Ben W Bell 10:58, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I take your point, "other six counties" seems the best option.

Lapsed Pacifist 11:04, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

See, we can agree on some things :) Ben W Bell 11:07, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I reckon it's not always a vale of tears!

Lapsed Pacifist 11:11, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the support on User talk:Timewaster. Where else are these images, then? I haven't seen them.

Telsa 13:42, 11 August 2005 (UTC) (who is a she, btw :))

Tesla, no problems. I think this user is the one also known as B1link82 and Houghone who has been banned for vandalism, and insulting conduct and have made a point of keeping an eye on him. I could be wrong, in fact I would like to be surprised. As for the images, I've seen them on the BBC site and couple of other news agency sites [[1]] for one of them. I have reported them as Copyright Violations on the image and media section of the Wikipedia.

P.S. Have you noticed on his talk page that he's just come back in an unfriendly manner and told you to get lost? Obviously has something to hide and isn't a team person. Ben W Bell 18:24, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

PPS I think I may be wrong about my initial thought, I'm not so sure it's the same person. It's so hard to tell on the web. Ben W Bell 06:51, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

Oh right. Yes, those photos do look remarkably similar! Telsa 09:37, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

I think this user is the one also known as B1link82 and Houghone who has been banned for vandalism, and insulting conduct and have made a point of keeping an eye on him. I could be wrong, in fact I would like to be surprised.

You are indeed wrong and as to your habit of cyber stalking users who you have no reasonable proof to suspect of being other users I think your conduct is diabolical. What gives you the right to follow new users around? You've put me off using Wikipedia ever again. Is it your job to turn people away from Wikipedia or did you bestow that honour on yourself? I suspect the latter. Keep away from users you do not know in future you are doing more harm than good.

--Timewaster 15:59, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Actually Timewaster I'd already come to the conclusion you weren't the same person at all, the perosn I was thinking of was rather inarticulate which you are not. You coincidentally appeared the day after his other account was banned and were editing the same pages which I why I initially jumped to the conclusion, but I have since realised I was wrong. Don't leave Wikipedia, I think you have something to offer. I didn't stalk users, in fact I only came onto your talk page to talk about the SAS photos on the SAS page, a matter which was a valid one. Ben W Bell 16:02, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Xavier School

Thanks for the headsup at the vandalism page. The page was protected. If you feel it is safe, remind me to unlock.--Jondel 09:02, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Will do. I just came across it and noticed it was being hammered by multiple anon IPs. I'd say given the pattern that it can be unlocked in about two weeks. Ben W Bell 10:14, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Template:Airlines of Canada

It's Wikipedia policy to have it moved that way. I don't understand why you're so interested in the template anyway since you're not even from canada. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 16:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

It's not a revert because I used the 'move' button to move it, and the history and talk pages moved as well. --File:Ottawa flag.png Spinboy 17:13, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Pivotal Corporation

Hi Ben, you created the article Pivotal Corporation. So, the company makes CRM software, but why should it be in Wikipedia and not in WikiCompany? What makes it stand out? Is it a 2 person start-up or a multi-billion company? The article doesn't say. Maybe you can provide some more information, otherwise it may soon end up on Articles for deletion. --S.K. 18:11, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Slum Tourism Toronto

Hi Ben. In fact, the new agency, Slum Tourism Toronto, created by the Parkdale Tenants Association, is geared to tourists and will be offering a free "Slums Unlimited" bus tour of several Toronto slum neighbourhoods to show tourists another, less glossy, side of Toronto starting February 2, as featured on their website. Don't you think tourists should see the true character of a city, warts and all? The Parkdale Tenants Association, which has been around more than 30 years, and is quite well respected, obviously feels that by showing tourists a different side of Toronto than what they usually see on a traditional tour, the City and the Province will improve conditions and make Toronto a better city for everybody, one that all Torontonians will be proud to call home, not just those who can afford decent accomodations. I'm not sure why you consider this a less worthy tourist site than any other. Their upcoming bus tour has received widespread international attention and has been featured in literally thousands of articles as far away as India, Australia and Italy as well as on ABC News and MSNBC. Hope that answers your question. I believe this falls under the guidelines of Wikipedia and is in the appropriate category. Please enable the email settings in your preferences section if you want to continue this discussion. Take care.

UPDATE: Somebody has created a new category on the Toronto site, "protest websites", and moved Slum Tourism Toronto there. I can live with that. In response to your point about it promoting a business, the bus tours are free, thus it does not contravene Wikipedia policy.

Eaton Centre

Hello, Ben. I clarified your change to the Toronto Eaton Centre article. Despite your opinion that it doesn't rate above the CN Tower, the TEC draws far more visitors. I have clarified the reference to make clear the reference to "top tourist attraction" is based on the number of visitors. Qualitatively you are correct -- each tourist probably has their own view as to what constitutes their top attraction. Skeezix1000 14:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

That's fair enough. Toronto City itself lists the CN Tower as the top tourist attraction, but yes more tourists probably go through the Eaton Centre than anywhere else in the city (other than Pearson). Not sure it means the Eaton Centre is necessarily a tourist attraction though, but they do visit it. Ben W Bell 15:14, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Rodney "Gypsy" Smith

Nice job on the wikification. Stevage 14:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. I came across it on one of my Random page hops (I hit a random page and fix anything I think needs fixing). Ben W Bell 14:26, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Popups tool

See my comments on my talk page about how I use popups. A popups revert is almost always "rvv". On the Toronto page today, which I think is what motivated your comment, some editor change the pop-stats and then made a talk page comment with the word "str8" in there. Instant reversion, no follow up required in my opinion. He can paste a confirming URL in the talk page instead of "str8" next time. Jok2000 16:20, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

City, State

Would you mind weighing in at Talk:Los Angeles, California on the page move I requested? I noticed your comments on Talk:Toronto and couldn't help seeing some strange parallels between the two - strange, that is to say, in that certain people insist every American city has to be named that way. Even if you vote to oppose, I'd appreciate your input. Thanks! Jibbajabba 09:56, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Read the damn talk page before making changes

Please stop changing the Charles Darwin article. Your views do not represent community consensus & your usage of the words fact & theory are vernacular not scientific. Please actually READ the following:

1. Evolution#Distinctions_between_theory_and_fact
2. Talk:Charles_Darwin#Evolution_is_a_fact_and_a_theory
3. http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_fact-and-theory.html Mikkerpikker 12:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Um firstly stop being so strong, I made one reversion that was tucked in with a bunch of vandalism. Secondly Charles Darwin came up with the theory of evolution. That may have been accepted as fact now by the scientific community but he didn't establish it as a fact, he established it as a theory, and it has been worked on ever since. Ben W Bell 12:56, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, sorry... I've just had to fight creationists on this for a while now & frustration boiled over. Didn't mean to insult you... You misunderstand me, Darwin is famous for BOTH establishing the fact of evolution (i.e. in the descriptive sense of transmutation of species and decent with modification) AND the theory of natural selection which explains why evolution in the descriptive sense occurs. Please read the Stephen Jay Gould article (or see the Charles Darwin talk page for a relevant excerpt), he explains it very nicely. Mikkerpikker 13:03, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I must say I have no interest in editing this article, but as a scientist I do feel the first sentence is extremely misleading. Technically you cannot apply the word fact to a scientific principle or answer. No amount of experimentation can ever prove a scientific theory to be correct, but a single experiment can prove them to be wrong. In the world of science the word 'fact' is only used to mean 'as fits current evidence' and that is all the 'Theory of Evolution' is. So to use the strong wording of fact in the opening paragraph as it is is very misleading. But as I say editing the article holds no real interest for me as it is a controversial issue. Ben W Bell 13:08, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

I see what you're saying but, for our purposes, there are two relevant types of propositions: observables & theories. Now, theories explain observables and, you're right, we can never be absolutely certain about a theory, but we're usually quite certain about observables. It is a fact that apples fall when not supported, and the theory of universal gravitation explains why. It is also a fact that the globe is warming and the theory of the greenhouse effect explains why. In neither of these (or related) cases will the facts change if the theories are revised. Einstein didn't prove apples don't fall, he merely changed the theory that does the explanation... Similarly, evolution (in the sense that organisms adapt to their environment) is a fact - one we're about as certain about as, say, that the earth is spherical. The theory of natural selection could one day be disproved, but evolution in the descriptive sense is as unassailable as apples falling & the sky being blue. Mikkerpikker 13:18, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Eurofighter Typhoon vandal

Nice work catching the vandalism on the article! Mark83 15:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Hey, even if it wasn't vandalism it was dreadful editing. Ben W Bell 15:12, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

His/her edit's bear an uncanny resemblence to those of User:Aytharn, e.g. [2]. That user's edits too were often accompanied by IP edits of similar quality. Mark83 15:28, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll take your word for it and keep an eye on him as well. The poor spelling and edits do definitely seem similar. Ben W Bell 15:48, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

User 203.194.47.182

No problem, their persistance with your talk page earned them the block anyway. --pgk^(talk) 09:27, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

I know that frustration well, I also get very frustrated when I see people who have been reverted many times recently but no one bothered to warn or list or WP:AIV, so keep up the good work --pgk^(talk) 09:30, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

User Wez

Hello, I am new to this site and I am not sure about something I was wondering if you could help me?

I have just tried to update some articles with reference to ODBC (InterBase for example) and you have taken them straight off and marking them as 'commercial spam' which is ok I understand that I can't try to sell my company etc. However what I am quite confused about is why are other companies (competitors) allowed to do just that? i.e having links to thier homepages etc.

Thanks for your help,

WEZ.

Hi, welcome to the site. Wikipedia discourages links to commercial sites with a couple of exceptions. The rules for this are listed here External links. I hope you stay around and become a contributor as we always welcome new editors. Ben W Bell 12:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

re: User 213.225.96.163

Curps has blocked him. Thanks. —Wayward ^Talk 12:53, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Efforts to "nationalise" place names

I'm not sure how these barnstar thingies work, but I'd like to nominate you for one for your efforts to add national location to a number of place names in the United States and United Kingdom. Kudos! -- SwissCelt 17:26, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Why thank you, I have no idea how they work either. I'm not particularly picking on the United States other than the fact it seems to be the most common culprit. I simply wish to make place mentions country neutral so someone from anywhere in the world can instantly tell where a location is without having to further click to find the country. Ben W Bell 17:33, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Incidentally here is all the information on Wikipedia:Barnstars. Ben W Bell 17:34, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Just found it, thanks! -- SwissCelt 17:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar may be awarded to those who work tirelessly and endlessly on the more laborious or repetitive of Wikipedia tasks.

This barnstar was introduced by Blankfaze on July 62004.

Why thank you very much, I'm just trying to make things more useful and easier but it's nice to know the work is appreciated. Ben W Bell 17:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Paulding County, Ohio

The template for a county, as shown on [[3]] shows that the subject should start off with "_ is a county in the U.S. state of [[_]]."

If articles written to spec are not acceptable, then CHANGE THE DAMNABLE TEMPLATE. I don't mind domating my time to a good project. I object VERY strenuously to wasting my time trying to conform to a standard which is unacceptable. ClairSamoht 09:24, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

I didn't know this project existed, I shall check it out. Ben W Bell 09:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for making the edits to the county articles. I know from my 88 Ohio county government section edits that it takes a significant amount of time. I also applaud your level-headed response to ClairSamoht's strongly worded comments. Though I think the template could be improved, at least please consider changing your edits to more closely conform with the current template. JonathanFreed | Talk | 20:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

My userpage

Cheers for catching the vandal at work. Guess it shows I was right to revert his edits.Kcordina 10:47, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Lake and Peninsula Borough, Alaska

You are, of course, correct in that the country should be identified. However, since (I believe) most of the articles on United States geography are written by Americans, you will (randomly) find thousands of them that assume that, if the name of the U.S. state is given, it is adequate to identify the location of the entity. Americans (including me, I'd have to admit) sadly assume that they are writing only for other Americans to read. It's unfortunate, but when they say "California", it is assumed that "yes, it's in the United States, by the way. Where else could it be?"

Backspace 07:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes I'm aware of that, however some editors need to be aware that the encyclopaedia is not United States centric. It's not a problem, I just change it where I find it. The reason there are so many is because most of the United States geographical pages were imported from the USGS through an automated process and it wasn't thought of as the USGS doesn't mention what country things are in as it's for the United States. I change when I find them, as do others. Ben W Bell 09:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

There are communities named California in Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Virginia. For that reason, it's appropriate to specify the state of California for purposes of disambiguity, but it's not like there is a California in the Ukraine or a California in Australia that it might be confused with. If you are going to specify the country, shouldn't you logically write "State of California, United States of America, North America, Western Hemisphere, Northern Hemisphere, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way Galaxy" so that people are REALLY sure where it's at?

And if you're going to specify "United States", oughtn't you fully state "United States of America", so as to make it clear you're not talking about, say, the "United States of Mexico"? I realize that it's a misnomer, being 46 states, 4 commonwealths, and a district in North America and Polynesia, not to mention vassal states like the US Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico, American Samoa, Guam, outposts like Gitmo, and Antarctica, and a couple of used cars sitting on the moon.

Many states in the USA are bigger in size, larger in population, and have a larger economy than countries that are admitted to the UN. There are 15 countries listed in the CIA World Factbook that could fit their entire population into a college football stadium. There are 22 that have smaller populations than the University of Phoenix student body. Is it reasonable to assume that people know where "Nassau, Jamaica" is, but not "Nassau, New York", when the Nassau metropolis has a larger population than the entire population of Jamaica?

To me, it makes sense to provide additional information when the placename is ambiguous, and when the population falls below a certain threshold, but deciding that Columbus (MSA population: 1.6 million), Ohio (population: 11.4 million)is an inadequate identifier, but Roseau (population: 14,847), Dominia (population: 69,029) is an adequate one? It isn't logical. Just ask Spock.

Never mind me, though. I rant, but I'm harmless. ClairSamoht 14:50, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

It's fine if you come from the United States to presume it is a US State, but no other country in the world can have an entry that just lists Town then County/State/Province, they all have to list the country. You cannot presume that everyone in the world knows all the United States states, it's not a fair assumption to make. I believe all locations should tell the reader what country it is as as this is after all a completely international encyclopaedia. As for using United States well that is the accepted Wikipedia name for the United States of America. Just look up USA, United States of America and see where it ends up, that particular topic has been discussed and resolved on the United States page. Ben W Bell 16:12, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: "some editors need to be aware that the encyclopaedia is not United States centric." True, but true not only for the United States, but other countries. See the following paragraph.

Re: "but no other country in the world can have an entry that just lists Town then County/State/Province, they all have to list the country." Not true at all. There are many examples from Wikipedia itself: In the article on the city of / Garbsen in the German edition of Wikipedia, the introduction states that the city is located in the state of Niedersachsen, but nowhere does it state that either the city or the state is located in Germany (Deutschland). It is assumed that the reader (primarily German, I would think) knows that it is in Germany. In the article on the city of / Passau, not only does the introduction not state that the city is in Germany, but it does not even state that it is in the state of Bavaria (Bayern), although it does state that it is "on the Austrian border"! In the article on the city of / Gela in the Italian edition of Wikipedia, the introduction says that the city is in the province of Caltanisetta, and that it is on the coast of Sicily, but nowhere does it say that the city or Sicily are in Italy. It is assumed that the (and here I'm assuming too) mostly Italian or Italian-speaking audience knows that they are in Italy. In the article on the commune of / Lidingö in the Swedish edition of Wikipedia, the intro states that the commune is in Stockholm county (Stockholms län), but it doesn't tell you that either Lidingö or Stockholm county are in Sweden. I don't read Japanese or Polish, but I'm sure that if I could, I would find examples in the Wikipedia editions of those languages as well. But I'm sure that you get the point, that this situation does not confine itself to the United States or English-speaking people. Backspace 04:03, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I totally agree with you. On the English speaking version it is mainly United States articles, simply due to how many of them there are and not due to deliberateness on the part of the editors. I have also come across many cases where places have no country in the United Kingdom, Australia and even France in my random travels, which I promptly make geographically neutral. On the other language encyclopaedias it is also an issue but I rarely if ever edit on those as I'm not particularly fluent in the languages they are written in. To my mind if a location is mentioned then it should be qualified, no matter what version it is in or where it is. Ben W Bell 07:34, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		Awarded for diligent service despite ad hominem attacks ClairSamoht 02:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Pivotal Corporation

The above article has been nmoinated for deletion. Just letting you know. Just zis Guy you know? 11:08, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Pivotal Corporation

Thank you for the support on Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pivotal_Corporation. I'm not terribly attached to the page but I am concerned that a lot of people voting in these issues just do a quick Google search or decide that if they haven't heard of it then it's not notable. It is a big company, one of the largest CRM ones, and is very notable but isn't known outside of the organisations that really use it, it is not something end users are aware of. Thanks again though. Ben W Bell 10:22, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Most welcome. ॐ Metta Bubble ^puff 10:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Norn Arn

Hey Ben - I noticed a specific sentence in your userpage, in which you say you're interested "in the neutral portrayal of the articles relating to Northern Ireland." With that in mind, PLEASE take a look at the Northern Ireland Portal and the Northern Irish Wikipedians' notice board, both of which I've set up pretty recently. I think standards need set, and many articles need cleaned up and created. I'm not asking you to necessarily put in any more work than you already do, but just that you're aware of proposals, articles in need etc. --Mal 14:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

I must say that on that I tend to police other users edits rather than make my own edits. I don't want my viewpoints to come out in such a close to home matter, but I try and turn other peoples edits neutral. I'll take a look though, but expect the whole thing to end in fire when some people on this site get to it. Ben W Bell 14:45, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Well policing edits is a valuable contribution. Read my proposals for future plans on my talk page:(Great Work). I understand your reluctance to a certain extent, but so far its been reasonably successful, and I'm hoping to start off with advertising the Portal and Notice Board to only a select few (the pages aren't a secret of course!). I'm thinking of compiling a recent edits watchlist page which will include (eventually) all the articles relating specifically to Northern Ireland - a big project I realise, but a start should be made, and it might be handy. --Mal 15:04, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

wiki dates

Hello! I noticed that you converted the date formats on the album chart I added to the Queensrÿche article. To be honest the date formatting still confuses me. I thought that the whole date had to be Wikified to be in conformity, not just the month and day. Is this incorrect? --cholmes75 13:10, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikifying the month and the day in square brackets is mainly to allow the dates to be displayed in the users preferred format. i.e. Day then Month or Month then Day. That way each user sees the dates as they have specified. People often wikify the years as well but I think it's overkill, but the month and day must be done to allow the preference display. Ben W Bell 14:08, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Brandin William Erickson

Hello I would like to know why you insist on deleting my addition to the births for july 16th it is a fact that Brandin William Erickson was born on july 16th 1979 it is also a fact that he plans to be the first modern day american president elected to office with no previous political background so as to clean up america fairly and with out bias for one if you dont like the part about american president you could have just deleted that why cant that name be on there but a canadian porn star can ?15:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)~

Um I removed it because Brandin William Erickson is not a notable person. He is not president of the United States and an internet search turns up no hits for him. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia and not dumping ground for what people want the world to be or to express people's hopes and aspirations. If Brandin William Erickson ever becomes a notable person or ever becomes president then come back and we'll talk, but as it stands there is no reason for him to be on Wikipedia. Ben W Bell 08:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

but there is a reason for a porn star?

If they are famous or notable then yes. Ben W Bell 07:06, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Statutory Instruments

Hi. I notice that you have previously voted or commented on the proposal to delete the List of Statutory Instruments of the United Kingdom, 1996 page. The debate about the delete proposal ended with no consensus. This is just to let you know that I have started a discussion on how to go forward from here. I am currently trying to define what the problems with the page are so that we can try to find a fix for them that stops short of outright deletion. If you wish to take part in the discussion, the new debate can be found here. Thank you. Road Wizard 23:45, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Apollo moon landing hoax accusations

Hi there - I noticed that you replaced links to this article that Science Apologist removed - I'm having issues with his revert warring on this page, and wondered whether you would like to take a look at the issue? Thanks, For great justice. 15:31, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

The only one revert warring is User:For great justice --ScienceApologist 15:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Bully Kutta

Thanks, for reverting, the commercial link keeps reappearing !

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Ireland / Republic of Ireland

Hi Ben,

I was thinking about your recent edits changing 'Ireland' to 'Republic of Ireland' On the Ireland page it says; "it is composed of the Republic of Ireland (officially named Ireland), a state which covers five-sixths of the island..."

Also; "This state is often simply referred to internally and internationally as "Ireland" in English or "Éire" in Irish. Technically Ireland and Éire are the official names of the state while the "Republic of Ireland" is its official description"

You might have a big job on your hands changing all the occurances of 'Ireland' to 'Republic of Ireland' :-) Jhonan ^talk 10:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah but Ireland is ambiguous and open to differing interpretations depending on geographical and political ideologies, Republic of Ireland is unambiguous. Ben W Bell 10:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Ireland states that the official name is 'Ireland', and the description is 'Republic of Ireland' Geographically the word 'Ireland' refers to the whole Island. I think disambiguation of the geographic articles is only necessary where the same place name exists in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. But, it's your call, I don't take offence to either. Good luck!  :-D Jhonan ^talk 11:14, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh I generally just add countries to things when I randomly come across them, I'm not planning on changing all of them just happened to be in the County Wiclow section. Ben W Bell 11:25, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Ben, really, changing Ireland to Republic of Ireland is somehow a bit misconceived. It would actually be more correct for an editor to change every instance of Northern Ireland to United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It really is a purposeless exercise changing the designation of the towns in Co Wicklow, as stated above in that the official name of the sovereign state is Ireland. Tara Taramoon 02:02, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay what properly needs to be done then is the town pages need to direct to the Republic of Ireland page and not the Ireland page as they do not. As it currently stands they are being directed to the wrong page, an article on the island of Ireland rather than on a state of Ireland. As I've stated above I have no intention of going around and altering them all anyway, I just changed a few that I came across. Ben W Bell 07:19, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Shadowrun Artical Changes

I edited the Shadowrun page and you reverted my changes for the material below.

"Some players saw Fourth Edition as another opportunity to bring in Earthdawn races such as Obsidiman, T’skrang and Windling that had not been in Shadowrun. This did not occur."

I checked your user page and you are obviously a Wikipedia veteran. Thank you for your service on this great project. I on the other hand am brand new at editing Wikipedia. I think your revert on my changes was valid. My question to you now is this - could this material go somewhere on the discussion page or is there anywhere in Wikipedia to enter this material? Thanks for your help. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kingheart (talk • contribs) 20:49, 26 May, 2006 (UTC).

Welcome to Wikipedia, we hope you have a good and productive stay. As for your comment, I'm not sure about that. Personally as a 17 year Shadowrun veteran I've never heard of this even remotely being touted as happening. Yes some players may have discussed this possibility but as far as I can see this was just pure conjecture on the part of those players as I can find nothing from FanPro that would even remotely suggest such a thing as possibly happening. As a result it really doesn't have a place on Wikipedia unfortunately. If FanPro had mentioned it and then changed their minds then yes it would be mentioned in the trivia section, but I don't believe they did. It would have been silly and upsetting to introduce such pivotal Earthdawn races into the Shadowrun world anyway and would have destroyed their consistency and integrity of the background to have done so, in my opinion. Ben W Bell 05:59, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

This was a topic of discussion at the 2005 FanPro Gamer Greet and Meet at GenCon in Indianapolis, Indiana, US. Some players expected that Obsidiman, T’skrang and Windlings would be brought in primarily because Minotaurs were presented as a new playable race in the Paranormal Critters sourcebook. Well, anyway, there are still some stubs on the Shadowrun page so perhaps I will focus on fleshing those out (move on to surer ground). Thank you very much for your help.

Adminship

Ben, you're probably checking your RfA as often as your talk, but I just wanted to tell you that not having being set up to receive email has earned you one oppose vote. I'd suggest you do so, as this has hurt at least one other RfA before. Also, though this is just my opinion, it helps to have it clearly visible at the top of your user page or user talk. Cheers and happy editing! --Kchase02 (T) 21:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Ah I'd checked that yesterday and thought it was all set up, but I didn't realise I had to specifically activate it. Aw well, it's done now. Ben W Bell talk 06:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Ben. Good luck in your RfA! --Kchase02 (T) 07:23, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

WikiLove!

Here's a bell for you! Bells somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others using Template:smile! Happy editing! --☆TBC☆ 04:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Get it? A bell for Ben W Bell? Anyhow, keep up the good work on Wikipedia, you've contributed a lot of great edits. :D (another ackward attempt at comedy by ☆TBC☆) 04:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Hi there Benjamin Ben,

Do you know Chip? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.41.247.170 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 2 June, 2006 (UTC).

Thanks

Thanks for your help over at Talk:University of Kent, I appreciate it :) Hopefully I won't have to take it to RfC but if the guy makes one more dodgy comment I'm there in a flash.

Incidentally I saw you were up for adminship at RfA - I'll happily add my name to your already overwhelming support. Cheers! Nuge talk 21:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I'd love to. I have an exam tomorrow so I'm a bit busy revising, but I'm sure I can squeeze in half an hour or so some time this afternoon, when will you be on campus? Nuge talk 10:26, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Shall we say 2.00 outside the Gulbenkian? I'll be standing by the Gulbenkian sign. Nuge talk 11:06, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for reverting my user page! I appreciate it! – DakPowers (Talk) 04:09, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations

After an impressive showing of community support, you are now an admin. Don't let the raw power go to your head. Just kidding — have fun with the new tools to help out around here, though I'd recommend being conservative with them, especially at first. Re-read the relevant policy before taking action, and talk things out as needed. Again, congratulations - Taxman ^Talk 16:29, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Congrats, Ben! Kukini 16:37, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Well done Ben. Glad to see so many people agreed with my nomination. -- Necrothesp 16:44, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, Ben, a well-deserved adminship - and great to meet you today. Good luck with your new powers :) Nuge talk 17:19, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Well done, an excellent member becomes an excellent admin. Kazmarov 07:42, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations. --Nearly Headless Nick 08:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations, and you're very welcome! --Merovingian {T C @} 08:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Congrats! As always, if I can be of any assistance—or if you feel you may be able to assist me, for that matter—don't hesitate to contact me! :) RadioKirk talk to me 16:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I would like to add my huzzah! as well. Good luck with the powah! --cholmes75 (chit chat) 20:55, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations. Here are what pass for words of wisdom from the puppy:

Remember you will always protect the wrong version. Remember you must always follow the rules, except for when you ignore them. You will always pick the wrong one to do. (See #5) Remember to assume good faith and not bite. Remember that when you are applying these principles most diligently, you are probably dealing with a troll. Use the block ability sparingly. Enjoy the insults you receive when you do block. Remember when you make these errors, someone will be more than happy to point them out to you in dazzling clarity and descriptive terminology. and finally, Remember to contact me if you ever need assistance, and I will do what I am able. KillerChihuahua?!? 17:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

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Felbrigg Hall?

Hello, Looking at your article for Felbrigg Hall I believe you may have the wrong photo attached. I notice that the pic is your own and labelled Felbrigg Hall near Cromer, Norfolk but I'm pretty sure that the picture is of Blickling Hall, near Aylsham, Norfolk. I could be wrong and the two places could be very similar in appearance. I've not been to Felbrigg but have been to Blickling a couple times and have a photo that looks remarkably similar taken from the same aspect. In addition thank you for starting the Helijet page. Regards MJayM 23:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC).

You know, now thinking about it, you could well be right. Well spotted. I've only been up that way once and yes you could well be right. I'll look into it and see about getting it corrected. Good eyes. Ben W Bell talk 06:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Business Process Case Study Link - ISO 9001

I note you removed the link I inserted earlier today. I am not quite sure why. The link was to a case study on a business process project that was implemented worldwide and has won numerous awards. In addition, it provides a fair amount of detail on the methodology for mapping, documenting, implementing and auditing business processes.

I do not have time to enter in to endless correspondence on this subject, but I am concerned about indiscrimate deleting of a valid information source relevant to the identified topic.

Ben - thanks for pointing me to the spam section. Having read it I noted the following: - 'Contribute cited text, not bare links. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. If you have a source to contribute, first contribute some facts that you learned from that source, then cite the source. Don't simply direct readers to another site for the useful facts; add useful facts to the article, then cite the site where you found them. You're here to improve Wikipedia -- not just to funnel readers off Wikipedia and onto some other site, right? (If not, see #1 above.)' The case study I linked to is relevant. I shall therefore include text from it and link to it as the source —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hughch (talk • contribs) 13:58, 9 June, 2006 (UTC).

Global Reserve Bank Deleted..:-(

Hi,

Thanks for your support in this voting... somehow it was deleted and I dont understand how it could be with so many Keep votes and so pore arguments for delete?? Do you?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Global_Reserve_Bank --Swedenborg 19:40, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations!

• Congratulations Ben!!!! A well deserved Adminship! Use it wisely!--DennyCrane Talk 10:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Re:

Oh yes sorry, i was meaning to make the text SciFi and to send the user to SciFi Channel (mental note: *must engage brain in mornings :P*) Matthew Fenton (TALK - CONTRIBS) 10:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks :) Matthew Fenton (TALK - CONTRIBS) 10:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

AFD

As an AIW member please review Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of relationships with age disparity and please take a side.

A380

Sorry about that. I'd read an article that said they cancelled their order, but I went back and found that they indeed haven't cancelled the order. I hope that it's alright with you that I update the dates in the intro and add the tidbit about the 2011 delivery.

Char645

Blocked

I know you may not have meant to but you have blocked me despite the fact i have not vandelised anything. This may be because i hae a dynamic ip address but can you let me know if you have blocked ME. thanks. Lenny 15:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi. No I didn't deliberately block you, just an IP address that was vandalising. Are you still having problems editting? You seem to be a user in good standing so there is no reason you would be blocked. If you are having issues I'll lift the block and just deal with the vandal as and when he does something. Oh can you give me your IP address. Ben W Bell talk 17:22, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi again, thankfully I am allowed to edit again. Thanks for your kindness in return. Lenny 18:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Template.

Hello, I've noticed that somebody creats different kinds of templates such as This user was born in 1960 that's for example. But some Templates usually deleted from someone's disagreement like Someone who doesn't want to keep this kinds of template in Wikipedia. I personally want to create the template like Who is interested in Chemistry. That's what I've decided to create this template Chemistry. But, I don't know that Chemistry template is already existed or not. So, Could you explain to me about Template, and what kinds of Template would not be allowed in wikipedia in my discussion page? Please, Answer in my talk page. *~Daniel~* 02:50, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

To be honest I've never created a template here (I think) and definitely not a userbox one, which is what I think you are after. Have a look on the page WP:Userboxes to see if there is a template for chemistry as I think there may well be one, otherwise links through and from that page should give you the information you need. Sorry I can't be of more help but it isn't an area I know much about. Ben W Bell talk 06:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Alfred Yuson

Maybe in the world of native English users my additions were not absolutely factual but for people who rely more on superstition than scientific, Cartesian thinking, my additions are both ethical and neutral

Derry / Londonderry

Ben, you really should get a robot to do your edits as ~70% seem to be to replace Derry with Londonderry :-) Personally, I don't really care what its called but IMHO where the principle author has gone to the bother of adding something useful to WP you might find your own intellect better served by expanding the article. Just a thought. Best. Eoin. --Ekilfeather 14:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Nah I've just done a load of them today. Been meaning to get round to it for a long time. Wikipedia policy is to use Londonderry for the county (as there has never actually been a County Derry) and Derry for the city (which is fine by me as they've renamed themselves that. Actually most of the ones I've changed have been changed to County Derry by other users so really I'm just setting them back. Ben W Bell talk 16:07, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Been wondering myself, how do you manage to find and change them so fast? I noticed that you changed the link in the Lavey article I created, within a short while of me creating it, even though it wasn't in any signifigant grouping. I'm not really sure why you changed it, as it just linked to the same article, but I see you want to inforce the official policies, so fair play to you. Pauric 17:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah that one is really easy. I just monitor the page County Derry and regularly check what happens to link to it using the WHat Links Here link on the left hand side of the screen. :) Ben W Bell talk 18:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Ah, handy enough. Same with Derry then? Clever way of doing it I hadn't thought of. Pauric 18:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Yup same with Londonderry, I check to see what is linking here and if it is a usage of the City name in certain periods I change it to Derry as per the standards. It's actually fair, one is considered by some to be pro-Unionist, and one change pro-Nationalist and I'm always accused of being one or the other just for following policy. County Derry is always easy as there's never been a County Derry, but with Londonderry it is valid in certain time periods. Ben W Bell talk 18:15, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!

I just noticed that you reverted vandalism to my userpage and warned the vandal, and for the life of me I can't recall ever interacting with you before on Wikipedia. Thanks for showing concern for a stranger.  :) Cheers, Kasreyn 05:19, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

That's not a problem. I just noticed it on a recent changes patrol. Vandalism is vandalism whether it's to an article or a user page. In fact I consider vandalism to use pages to be more of a crime than vandalism to an article as it's practically a personal attack. Ben W Bell talk 06:23, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

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Vancouver Wikipedian's Meetup

Taking a look at some of your pics I would assume you are somewhere in Vancouver, we're trying to have a meetup sometime, would you be interested? -- Tawker 22:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Sorry you have it wrong. Yes I've taken a lot of pics in the Vancouver area, but I actually live in Canterbury in England. I've just visited Canada about 8 times in recent years. Thanks for the offer, but I think the airfare is a bit much for a meetup :) Ben W Bell talk 06:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

LOL, that would be a bit difficult wouldn't it. Oh well, photos can confuse people :) - I hope all is well -- Tawker 07:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

User Mk200114

You could have been courteous enough to at least given me a notice before you deleted the entry I made. It only makes sense that if I would have known it was going to be deleted, I would not have put as much effort into it. Although, I obviously did not type it up last night for no reason. So, I would appreciate it if you had some magical wand or something to bring it back, so I can copy and paste the text and put it in our forum’s about section, rather than me having to think it all up again from scratch.

To be fair while you were editing it it did have for half an hour a message at the top telling you it was being considered for deletion. You continuously edited while that was there so you should have noticed it. But anyway.

I've managed to recover the text and I've put it in one of your subpages. User:Mk200114/Otaku. This is a user page attached to you. By the way if you really want the info on Wikipedia you can actually put it on your own personal user page User:Mk200114. As long as it isn't inflamatory or a breach of copyright, you can put anything you like on there. Ben W Bell talk 20:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the information. I saw the message on the image, but I guess I was too busy to notice the one on the article. Anyway, that's all I needed.

Personl Opinion?

You changed my Littlechlid edit. I gave hard facts about the Irish and you rubbed them out. Are you anti-Irish? If you change my neutral edit I attempt to have you removed for anti-Irish bigotry. 617USA

No I am not anti-Irish, being Irish that would be really stupid. If you are going to throw around accusations that he was a homophobe, dead set against the Irish and other such then you need to back it up with sources and references or they will be removed. That is the Wikipedia policy. Ben W Bell talk 07:22, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter of you are Irish -- you could be a Protestant or a Catholic sell out. You are not neutral and your edit has no encyclodic value. I am changing it back and will call for an edit dispute if you change it again. The facts I gave are true -- Littlechild was an oprressor. I see you live in England anyway so you are a sell out.

You might like to also read No Personal Attacks. The claims you are making may well be true, but you have provided absolutely no sources or evidence to support them, as a result they will be removed unless you can provide something to back these claims up. Also just because someone prosecuted against Oscar Wilde doesn't automatically make him a homophobe, maybe he was just doing his job. Ben W Bell talk 14:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I am filing a bigotry complaint against you with Wikipedia -- you are a bias anti-Catholic bigot.

And just how am I anti-Catholic? For all you know I'm a Catholic. Ben W Bell talk 20:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

If you were a Catholic you never would have said you were from the 'United Kingdom" -- you would have said Ireland. I am filing a complaint against you as a bias bigot.

Um Northern Ireland was part of the United Kingdom last I checked, a fact no matter if I'm Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Muslim or any other religion. And are you trying to threaten me for some reason? None of your edits are neutral I'm afraid and you do not provide references. In fact your edits are made with a personal axe to grind against the British police establishment for reasons I cannot fathom why. That is why they are being removed, not because anyone is a bigot, not because anyone else is biased. Ben W Bell talk 20:53, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

I will no longer respond after this post -- I am reporting you to Wikipedia and several Irish Catholic rights groups. I checked and you and the Old Bill who put up the Irish cop articles have ganged up on editors before. I will also call in other Wikipedia editors -- who are YOU to say what's neutral -- neutrally is decided by the group here -- not by you and your cop friend.

I'm all for Catholic rights, as I'm all for Protestant rights, and every other groups rights. If you wish to continue through life blinkered into your own little worldview then go right on ahead. Quite frankly coming from Northern Ireland where large proportions of the population (Catholic and Protestant) are incapable of having senesible discussions because both sides are blinded by their own ignorance and confused ideologies I just can't be doing with it. If you wish to join a world where people are more interested in building and making things better then come back and talk, if not then please don't bother us. Oh and if you want to file a complaint with someone on Wikipedia then go right on ahead. Anyone and everyone can see I have done nothing wrong here. Ben W Bell talk 21:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• NOTE: All the unsigned comments above in this section were made by User:617USA

Image:FlyBE Bae146 G-JEAW Glasgow.jpg

Thank you Ben for the kind words on the above photograph. Indeed the framing of the clouds was very interesting, but purely good fortune rather than talent. At an average take-off speed of 120 knots, photographing aircraft is a hit and miss sport.

If I may add my appreciation for your tireless work on Wikipedia, especially in the field of Country awareness. I am in hopes that with my vast photographic database that I will be able to augment the textual portion of an article - with an accompanying photograph. The Flybe shot was only my second image uploaded (after I took a month to figure out how to do it), your comments were very encouraging that I should continue. Slainte. Dotonegroup talk 21:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Hey

I didnt do nothing --Clueless, Pathetic and very Annoying 13:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Brad Patrick Signpost article.

Reverted and watchlisted. I'm watching the user; let me know if he makes a similar edit elsewhere. Ral315 (talk) 04:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

removing links

I've received your message saying: "Please stop removing valid links from Wikipedia".

I've removed only some links to "pinouts.ru" because a large part of this site has been copied without permission from the original and historical "technick.net" website now called "allpinouts.com". They are only replicating the content of Allpinouts.com website and probably reproducing copyrighted material without permission. The pinouts collection of Technick.net/Allpinouts.com was started on 1991, moved to BBS on 1994 and to internet on 1998. Pinouts.ru was born after 2000.

We no not have enough resources to move a legal action against Pinouts.ru because they are based in Russia and we are in Italy, so I'm asking to Wikipedia at least to not link this site.

All links to "allpinouts.com" are right because a lot of information about cables/connectors/adapters on the internet has been acquired from this site.

Please give me some feedbak about this issue.

You are linking to a general site, not a page specifically linked to the article in question. The links you are providing are to a page that often doesn't work, crashes browsers and requires the reader to have additional software installed. If you are going to link to the site then you must link to a specific page that is relevant to the article in question, not a general page. Ben W Bell talk 08:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Probably you are experiencing problems with this site because your system has some problem with Java. I'm going to remove the Java menu by default so the site becomes more accessible.

It would be a very good idea. Not everyone uses java, not everyone installs Java. Wikipedia likes linking to sites that conform to the W3C standards that are usable by everyone, not just people who are technically competent and have the latest versions of software. 08:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Anno-Dracula series

Yes, I'm sure :-) KN has used Mlle. Dieudonné in three different continuities: Drachenfels and the other Warhammer novels (Genevieve Sandrine du Pointe du Lac Dieudonné), the Anno-Dracula series (Geneviève Sandrine de l'Isle Dieudonné), and Seven Stars (Geneviève Sandrine Ysolde Dieudonné, who also shows up in the short story 'The Big Fish'). The different continuities are distinguished by the middle names and an accent in the first name, but he's stated that they're basically the same character in different worlds.

Seven Stars also pinches a few other characters from the AD series, and even from the Dark Future novels that he also wrote for GW. Yes, I am a sad sad person for knowing all this :-) --Calair 14:39, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit revertion on SAS article

I noticed that you reverted my additions to the Special Air Service article. Did you need a reference, or was it badly written, or what? --Narfil Palùrfalas 15:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I reverted it as it is oddly written that it was founded when he snuck into someone's headquarters. It implies that was why it was founded, and also implies that the SAS was founded there and then because he snuck in and the act of sneaking is was a founding act. Ben W Bell talk 16:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

I see. That information is also found in the article on David Stirling. But as to my statement that before he was captured the SAS destroyed such and such amount of grounded aircraft and various other enemy vehicles and the like (I can't remember the numbers right now), my reference for that is the Ballatine book "The Phantom Major", also published under the title of "Who dares, wins". It was written during David Stirling's lifetime and in direct correspondance with the afore mentioned and other members of the SAS in WWII. There is similar information on the SAS site. I thought the information was important. Do you think otherwise? --Narfil Palùrfalas 00:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry that bit is my mistake, that shouldn't have been reverted. I think that is very relevant and important, personally. Ben W Bell talk 07:03, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try and re-add that when I have time. I've been busy with my work at Tolkien Gateway. --Narfil Palùrfalas 21:52, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek Online

Re: Star Trek Online, I realize the Klingon Empire link redirects to Klingon, and that we already have a link to Klingon in the article, but the links are used in different contexts (one as the species and one as the political entity) and they are far apart in the article (someone reading the "Story" section might not have read the "Character development" section to see the link to Klingon). I think it's reasonable to include the link again, especially given the parallel with the other political entities mentioned. Powers 12:46, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Mike Carroll

In regards to Mike Carrol article: Ben, where do you get off accusing me of vandalism when you haven't addressed any of what I said? Mike Carrol was beat up by angry French bouncers, and this was a significant event that he explained in detail in an interview with Skateboarder Mag. Also, the advertisement he appeared in does exist and although you may disagree as to the message behind the add, the proper recourse is not to delete it and accuse the contributor of vandalism. It is also common knowledge that early in his career, Carrol was given the chance to vote on whether or not Eric Koston should be offered a spot on the Plan B skateboard team. This event was referenced by Danny Way in an issue of Transworld Skateboarding magazine several years ago. Furthermore, in an issue of Big Brother Magazine two years ago, Mike Carrol openly ridiculed Chris Nieratko during his interview. If you doubt the accuracy, lets discuss it before you accuse somebody of vandalism. You're not in your element here, or else you probably could have backed up your claims with at least something. Maybe you hold a lot of water at Star Trek conventions and can speak flawless Clingon, but keep the snobbery limited to your own circles please. Or do a little homework. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.165.47.171 (talk • contribs)

Hmm where do I start. You edit consisted of him being an asshole and practically every single other edit made from your IP address has been vandalism. That's enough for anyone to revert such an edit. Ben W Bell talk 07:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Eberron Mod

If you think my changes inappropriate, then by all means revert them. I'm not inclined to argue over wikipedia. My intent wasn't to self-promote (our project being listed on the official game's site, as well as a small, paid Google Adwords campaign accomplish that), but to inform.

If you like, you can remove my additions and I will add them back once Neverwinter Nights 2 is released.

Though to be perfectly honest, despite its small size our project stands to fare considerably well in comparison to larger projects given that Dane and I both have considerable project management experience.

I'll not revert any changes you make, so proceed however you wish.

Yare 10:13, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

for turning my article url from plural to singular, how do I change the url myself? I could not find that option.GerardK 10:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem, I noticed it and altered it. You cannot actually change an article title, you have to actually Move the article using the Move box along the top of the page. Any other queries don't hesitate to ask. Ben W Bell talk 10:29, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the templates :)

I just thought I should tell you, your list of templates closely matched what mine should be, so I taught myself how to use templates by viewing your page. Thanks! Mathiastck 18:29, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Ha, no probs. Glad to have been of help :) Ben W Bell talk 19:07, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Belfast WikiProject

I know you're more of an editor as opposed to a writer on Wikipedia Ben, but actually with that in mind, I wonder if you could take a look at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Belfast.. which is a summary intent regarding the new Belfast project I've set up.

I think you'd be an invaluable addition, and we can improve a wealth of things.. even if you just do the odd bit of work on it here and there. Once you've done a couple it gets easier of course. I'm sure you know the score. Plus, you've always appeared (to me at least) to be specifically non-POV.

Speaking of which - thanks for the warning regarding the Northern Ireland article. I can't believe how insistant and petty those three or four people are. I've been accused of racism, anti-Irishness(!) and even of being a loyalist by a couple of them! My approach is purely from a logical perspective - the other three regions of the UK are known as constituent countries, so what is it about Northern Ireland that is different in this regard, I wonder.

I think from the edit history I remember seeing that it was you who changed the wording in the first place, in effort to compromise (I could be wrong). I respect that, though I still think the wording should be consistant throughout the other related articles.

I have been asked for citations and I provided many, and it was still reverted. I outlined my reasons for reverting, and still they talk about citations and verifying etc. I believe Djegan is trying to get me banned from Wikipedia. I note that on the 3RR page he claims that I wasn't blocked. But actually I was - for 12 hours, as I'm sure you're aware. I reckon by "blocked" Djegan actually means "banned".

Anyway, I have something else in mind for the next time the article gets reverted.

Thanks again, and please consider helping out with the Belfast project. :) --Mal 15:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh and I see you've become an admin since last we 'spoke' .. (belated) congratulations! :) --Mal 15:52, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Ulster Flag

Mate, I uploaded a new Ulster flag because the current one is incorrect. The hand on it is incorrect. Now that may just seem as nitpicking but it would be like having an American flag with only 40 stars just because the image is better. Seamus2602 10:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh if that's the case then fair enough, I didn't notice that. Sorry. Ben W Bell talk 12:34, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reminding but one more revert from other side too would violate 3RR.It just doesn't matter who is the person doing it.Have an eye there.HW 13:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

No 3RR has been committed here.HW has been consistently defying consensus in the article's talk page and threatening users with bogus defwarns and bogus accusations of vandalism (please see edit history of Kancha Ilaiah) in order to frighten users away. There must be a wikipedia policy against such attacks. All the edits we made there are sourced and accurate. HW keeps reverting them despite our sourced verifications. If he wants to, he can qualify the edits with his own SOURCED edits and that would be fine. He, however, continues to delete sourced statements.Hkelkar 15:40, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Northern Ireland project

Hi Ben. You might want to take note of the changes I'll be making to the NI Project. I'm adding the Mathbot functionality to the project a la the Belfast Project.

I aim to catalogue the work that needs done, and any issues (POV, accuracy, short-but-important articles, articles needing images etc etc), and the ultimate goal is to provide a collaborative project which will provide a list of resources and information with the aim of improving the vast majority of articles which relate to Northern Ireland.

If you have any time, please familiarize yourself with the suggestions given in the project, such as the addition to a list of new articles etc.

I'm starting a NI-related Manual of Style too in the near future.

Cheers, --Mal 15:02, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your mediation

Since no one seems to be supporting my view ; i think it wise enf., to stay away from the page.If you think your views merits inclusion you may include them.anyway i won't be directly involved in editing.Thanks.HW 16:04, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I am also grateful for your mediation. Although HW still disagrees with the result, I'm sure he means nobody any ill-will, despite the agitated nature of his postings. I'm sure that his misguided passion got the better of him. Maybe if he cools off and introspects for some time he will agree that your decision was neutral and unbiased and even suggested a reasonable compromise between our respective proposed edits.Hkelkar 18:23, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I need help with a personal attack against me

User:SqueakBox doesn't like me. He has insulted me in the past and, recently, he was blocked for posting the following insult in his user page: "My greatest achievements here [...] have been [...] and restoring José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero from the POV of another user who claims to write about saints." (See the entry for August 21 in his block log) My nick, Hagiographer means just that, "to write about saints", so it's clear that comment is a direct attack against me. Furthermore, when I came to the article about Zapatero SqueakBox had already been banned from editing Zapatero's editing articles by the Arbitraton Committee (what can he restore?). And, in fact, I've never contributed or deleted information from any of those articles. I simply reverted some vandalism SqueakBox introduced as part of his harassment campaing against other user who was also banned by the same Arbitration Comittee decision. So, that paragraph is pure slander.

Taking WP:NPA into account, I believe that paragraph should be deleted or, at least, marked like what it is, a personal attack. I did just that [4]. However, SqueakBox removed it and User:Guettarda protected the page here. SqueakBox has had a lot of problems with other users and, sometimes, Guettarda has taken part in them. For example, in User:SqueakBox can be found a barnstar given by User:Guettarda in which he says that SqueakBox has gone beyond the call of duty in his fight against "strange" people in the article Javier Solana. WP:NPA states clearly that comments must be about content not users so it's clear that Guettarda and SqueakBox have cooperated in, at least, dubious actions against other users. It's also clear Guettarda is biased in favor of SqueakBox. In this edit in my talk page, he implies that I like looking for conflict, that I'm obsessed with SqueakBox that I've to settle down and so on, all violation of WP:AGF and unpleasant remarks.

It mustn't be forgotten that according to WP:OWN, user pages belong to everybody and I don't believe a wikipedian has any right to transform his user page in a platform to attack other users. So Guettarda's supposed protection of SqueakBox's user page (really of SqueakBox's insults) is very difficult to defend in my opinion.

I'm simply asking fair treatment. I don't believe I have to see how the Wikipedia is populated with insults against me. I believe SqueakBox can contribute useful edits without transforming his user page into a gallery of attacks. So please, either unprotect the page so WP:OWN can be applied, or remove the negative comment or mark it as a personal attack untolerable in the Wikipedia or, at least, explain to me why I have to bear that kind of treatment. SqueakBox has been blocked for that unpleasant remark, What is the use of blocking him and then keeping the insult? Thank you. Hagiographer 08:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Derry Anime and Manga Assosiation

If I did alter them back it was unintentional.

Ireland Counties template

Hey there, I saw you removed the template I had stuck on the Derry page. Just want to get your thoughts on this one. Some of the cities in Ireland have the city template and others have this AND the county template. Probably should be consistency here. I had thought that it did make sense to have both on the Derry page, given the IMOS standards for the city being Derry and the county being Londonderry, I thought both templates on the Derry city article made sense and helped with clarity. Whats your thoughts? Cheers. SeanMack 06:38, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Okay my thoughts. There are in fact a few cities listed on the Counties template, but I believe they are only ones where the county town is the same name as the county (Galway, Cork, Limerick), though if that's the case I'm not sure why Antrim and Armagh don't have cities against them. To my mind the counties should be solely for counties (and I think this is why it was originally conceived), and the cities for cities. Mixing them just doesn't make any sense to me and ends up cluttering pages. But these are my thoughts, and don't necessarily represent policy or consensus (if there is one). Ben W Bell talk 06:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Thats fair enough - I was going to add it to those city articles with the same name as the county - which would have left Derry as a funny one - but I think I'll leave well enough alone for now.... Best. SeanMack 06:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Wakaratai and Derry Anime and Manga Association prods

FYI, if someone removes the {prod} tag from an article, then the deletion of the article is considered contested. ProDs are for articles whose deletion will likely go uncontested. But since the deletion is contested, the next step is to take it to WP:AFD, as I have already done. --TheFarix (Talk) 12:48, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia: an awesome world community where people look out for one another

Hi, I saw your vandalism warning message and was completely perplexed... what had I done? Then I finally found that you kept restoring my own 'akaase' user page that I, myself, kept deleting. But I was deleting it whilst not being logged in, so it appeared as though an anonymous user was deleting my user page.

Thank you for your vigilance and care in catching this--twice! I have now deleted this page after being logged in!

Request for 2nd opinion

Hi Ben. I was wondering if you could act as a witness, and take what ever action you see as appropriate in a recent conflict between myself and another user. I am considering posting up a Request for Comment about the editor, as he's acting irrationally. Cheers. --Mal 02:32, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Ben, thanks for the positive intervention. Setanta747 just kept on reverting my Craic page inputs and a bit of frustration crept in. It took me about 3 days to collect together the instances of the word craic as used in Ireland. I have no desire for a feud, as most of my edits are simple in context, and informative. I have about 500 edits using my ip address, as I don't always log in for once off edits. Red blaze 14:21, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the not-so-subtle vandalism to my user page. Niohe 13:50, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem, glad to have been of help. Ben W Bell talk 13:55, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Firefly logo

My change was reverted with the following comment: "rv back to opening titles logo as is standard on Wikipedia."

Although it's generally standard to use the logo from the title sequence, I don't feel as though the animated logo translates very well into a still image. The image from the DVD cover seems as though it would be what Whedon would have used had the logo been a still shot.

Maybe we could even use an animated logo. I just don't feel as if the still shot of an animated logo works very well.

-ChunkySoup 19:54, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Fair_use#Policy, #9: "Fair use images should be used only in the article namespace.". — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 00:18, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the troll on my talk page. The vandal has been blocked indefinately, as a returning sock of an already banned editor, User:Mrs.T. I had reverted another of his sock edits, hence the unahppy comment on the page. Keep up the good work! --TeaDrinker 20:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

SAS deleted links

Why did you delete may links in the SAS article? Those were valuable links - one had great video clips (sse also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Special_Air_Service#External_links_being_deleted) Yosy

Kent

Would you like to join Category:Wikipedians by alma mater: University of Kent? Timrollpickering 20:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)