Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bristol

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Engravings

I've added an 1873 engraving, and details from it, to Bristol, History of Bristol, Colston Hall (Where it shows things destroyed by the fire, no less]], Bristol Cathedral (may want to move them around: One shows it before construction was complete, but I put it in the gallery, next to other discussions of same), and Blackfriars, Gloucester. Hope you like them! Stitching and cropping was provided by WP:GL/IMPROVE Adam Cuerden ^talk 19:52, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

FAC Buildings and architecture of Bristol

I've put Buildings and architecture of Bristol up as a Featured Article candidate - any comments/votes etc welcome at: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Buildings and architecture of Bristol. — Rod ^talk 11:11, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Bristol Doors Open Day 2007

I've just been reading in Venue about the Bristol Doors Open Day 2007 which happens on Sat 8th Sept (with some sites also open on Sun 9th) details are at: http://www.identitydesign.co.uk/bdod2007/index.htm. Is anybody able to get along to get more info on any of these (most already have articles, but many are stubs) and possibly take some photos? - I'd be particularly grateful if anyone could get snaps of Clifton Pool and The Victoria Public House (aka Clifton Lido) and the Underfall yard for the Bristol Harbour article - but I'm sure there are loads of others where the wikipedia article could be improved.— Rod ^talk 20:48, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

I was planning on going out and taking a few piccies, but I've been a little bit unwell lately, so I'm not sure if I'm going to feel like it now. I'll see how I feel on the day. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 12:35, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

? reasses Bristol Cathedral article

Could someone reassess the Bristol Cathedral artcile - it's currently rated as "start" & I think it is more of "B" class & I'm considering putting it up for GA soon. I shouldn't do it as I've been too involved in editing the article.— Rod ^talk 14:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Definitely worthy of a B-Class rating. I think that the Media section probably falls under WP:TRIV and should be removed before being put up for WP:GA, and it looks like it could do with a few more references, although I haven't checked all of them so I could be wrong about that. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 14:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Article importance

Now that the current stats on the project page are automated, I think it would be a good idea to add an importance rating to our articles (via Template:Bristol) so that we can see which articles are the most urgently in need of improvement. Firstly, does anyone else think this is a good idea, and secondly, how would we decide which importance level to assign. My thoughts are:

• Top: Bristol, History of Bristol, Economy of Bristol, etc.
• High: Major landmarks/buildings, the universities and world-famous residents, such as Clifton Suspension Bridge or Cary Grant
• Mid: Nationally known residents, well known areas of the city, nationally known secondary schools, parliamentary constituencies. E.g. James May, Clifton, Clifton College
• Low: Minor areas of the city, most schools, people not in the above categories

I'm sure that there's plenty of stuff I've left out, but that's just my initial thoughts on the subject. Any other ideas are welcome. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 10:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I would agree that this would be a good idea & most other projects have it - however it would be a lot of work re-evaluating the 600 odd articles. Importance level will always be a subjective & imprecise things & I think you've made a good start. if it is incorporated into the project page, then others can add or remove examples as appropriate.— Rod ^talk 14:02, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

I've set up the categories, and edited the template so that it accepts an importance rating. At the moment it adds the article to the relevant importance category, but it doesn't display the importance in the template. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 19:54, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks - but the importance category doesn't show up in the status box on te project page - any idea why? We also need to do some instruction (similar to your list above) on the project page to help people do the importance categorisation.— Rod ^talk 21:27, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

The stats on the project page are updated by a bot, so hopefully the importance ratings should appear on there next time it runs. I'll start working on a draft set of instructions later on. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 06:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

They've now been updated. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 08:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I've created a draft version at Wikipedia:WikiProject Bristol/Assessment. Feel free to make any changes/additions you see fit. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 07:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Fry family (chocolate)

The article Fry family (chocolate) has been proposed for deletion. The Talk page notes that the article is supported by the Bristol wikiproject. It would be good if the article included more on the contribution of the Frys to the economic and cultural development of Bristol. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 19:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Nomination has now been withdrawn. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 19:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Bristol potentially losing GA status

Some work needs to be done on Bristol for it to keep its GA status. Notes on what needs to be done have been left by a user at Talk:Bristol#GA on hold. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 07:06, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Bristol area articles

At the moment we still seem to have quite a few articles about areas of the city that are so short that there's not really much point in them existing. Taking my inspiration from User:Mark999's excellent work on Kingsweston, I propose merging all area stubs into the article about the council ward that they are in and creating a redirect from the original article location to the relevant section of the ward article. This would avoid having articles like Filwood Park, and help to pad out articles like Hillfields, Bristol. Any thoughts? — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 08:59, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Seems like a reasonable approach to me. The articles can alwasy be recreated later if there is significant content to go into them.— Rod ^talk 09:54, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Right then, I've had an attempt at doing this to Ashley, Bristol. I've merged in the stub articles on Montpelier and part of St Andrews, written a brief paragraph on Baptist Mills and linked to the longer articles about areas of this ward. Does this look ok to you? — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 09:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

St Werburghs Church, Bristol

Can you check this is OK? --Quentin Smith 15:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Buildings and architecture of Bristol still on FAC

Buildings and architecture of Bristol is still a candidate for Featured Article status having been nominated on 27th August! It received very little comment until recently & now has 3 support comments (& no oppose). It will soon fall off the bottom of the list and will not be passed as FA without a few more support comments. If you felt like making a comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Buildings and architecture of Bristol that would help the process.— Rod ^talk 20:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Article for Deletion: Henleaze Infant and Junior School

Henleaze Infant and Junior School at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henleaze Infant and Junior School (24 October 2007)

--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Ashton Gate

(I have no idea why i'm editing at nearly 3am) I have just moved Ashton Gate to Ashton Gate stadium. The redirect i created into Ashton Gate suburb proper but needs expansion. Simply south (talk) 02:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

New articles

I've added a new section to the project page for new articles. When anyone here creates a new Bristol-related article it can be added to the list so that other project members can give them the once-over and add them to thier watchlist if they want. — Gasheadsteve ^{Talk to me} 21:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Photographs of Bristol Crown/County Courts

If any Bristol-based photographers could take snaps of courts in their neck of the woods (e.g. Bristol Crown Court and Bristol County Court) and add them to commons:Category:Courthouses in the United Kingdom, the photographs would be very much appreciated for Bristol Crown Court, List of courts in England and Wales and List of county courts in England and Wales. Thanks, Bencherlite^Talk 22:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Hakluyt's memorial tablet in Bristol Cathedral

If any member of this WikiProject is able to take a photograph of Richard Hakluyt's memorial tablet in Bristol Cathedral for the article about him, that would be much appreciated. If required, please continue this discussion on the article's talk page. Thanks. — Cheers, JackLee ^–talk– 18:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Bristol Temple Meads

Bristol Temple Meads railway station is currently rated B-class, but recent edits have probably moved this close to GA. Before I turn it over for a formal assesment, perhaps members of this project would like to take a look and see what else needs doing. Geof Sheppard (talk) 16:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Bristol in Schools Wiki

As a Bristolian (mum still lives on Stoke Hill) I would be keen to see some more Bristol articles in the wikipedia for schools. At present the ones we do have are linked from Bristol. There is a big update going on at present. Any suggestions? The 2006 and 2007 editions have over a million users... --BozMo talk 13:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Would you be able to take a photograph of someone in Bristol?

I am trying to obtain a photograph of Richard Lynn, and he is happy for a Wikipedian to take one of him at his residence, but I need to find someone in Bristol to take the shot. If you are at all interested please let me know on my talk page and I will provide further details. Thanks. Richard001 (talk) 01:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

• The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
• The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
• A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.

Each WikiProject should already have a new C-Class category at Category:C-Class_articles. If your project elects not to use the new level, you can simply delete your WikiProject's C-Class category and clarify any amendments on your project's assessment/discussion pages. The bot is already finding and listing C-Class articles.

Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 22:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Project Stub?

I'm relatively new to wikipedia editing, but thought I'd try and create a page on Broad Street, however it looks like I might end up with a stub length article about what locals call the "Grand Hotel" (official the Thistle Grand). I was wondering if there was a box I could put on the page to mark it as a Bristol related stub?

NullofWest (talk) 17:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

If you add {{Bristol}} to the talk page of the article it will add this wikiproject banner. The instructions for the other parameters have been archived at: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bristol/Archive 1#Talk page template but basically add |class=stub within the project banner. If you just post the article title here I'm sure someone will take a look & help both with the assessment & the article itself.— Rod ^talk 17:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Rod, I've been having trouble finding enough references, so the article I've created is at User:NullofWest/Broad Street,Bristol for now. Not sure if I should add the project box yet. NullofWest (talk) 17:57, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

I would create the article in the mainspace, copy & pasting what you've done & then add banner to talk page.— Rod ^talk 18:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Done now, I've been unable to find secondary sources on the "Grand" so that hasn't made it into the article yet. At the moment I've rated it Mid-Importance on the project scale as the source says it was one of the original streets, but think this may mean it needs to be High-Importance. The article is at Broad Street, Bristol NullofWest (talk) 08:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Articles flagged for cleanup

Currently, 658 articles are assigned to this project, of which 86, or 13.1%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of 14 July 2008.) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place the following template on your project page:

{{User:WolterBot/Cleanup listing subscription|banner=Bristol}}

If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Bristol

Wikipedia 0.7 is a collection of English Wikipedia articles due to be released on DVD, and available for free download, later this year. The Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team has made an automated selection of articles for Version 0.7.

We would like to ask you to review the articles selected from this project. These were chosen from the articles with this project's talk page tag, based on the rated importance and quality. If there are any specific articles that should be removed, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.7. You can also nominate additional articles for release, following the procedure at Wikipedia:Release Version Nominations.

A list of selected articles with cleanup tags, sorted by project, is available. The list is automatically updated each hour when it is loaded. Please try to fix any urgent problems in the selected articles. A team of copyeditors has agreed to help with copyediting requests, although you should try to fix simple issues on your own if possible.

We would also appreciate your help in identifying the version of each article that you think we should use, to help avoid vandalism or POV issues. These versions can be recorded at this project's subpage of User:SelectionBot/0.7. We are planning to release the selection for the holiday season, so we ask you to select the revisions before October 20. At that time, we will use an automatic process to identify which version of each article to release, if no version has been manually selected. Thanks! For the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial team, SelectionBot 22:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

My personal initial view of the matter is that we should use the diffs in the following list. It would be best to discuss here before we copy to the bots list. I have also included diffs for articles that I think should also be included - in most cases it is the current diff, but in the case of the Bristol article it is the last diff with the dialect included. NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

There is a October 20th Deadline, I propose to submit my list to the Selection Team on October 18th at 09:00 UTC unless there are any objections - but it would be better if we could get consensus by then. NullofWest Fill the Void 16:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Revisions to include on v0.7 DVD

Please place your preferred revision for each of these articles, if not here already, and sign it. NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Bristol http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bristol&oldid=238893078 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Cary Grant http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cary_Grant&oldid=237388169 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Bristol Rovers F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bristol_Rovers_F.C.&oldid=237456972 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

South West England http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_West_England&oldid=237677983 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

University of Bristol http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_Bristol&oldid=238226845 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Paul Dirac http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Paul_Dirac&oldid=238097424 - but defer to WikiProject Physics NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Trip hop - defer to WikiProject Electronic Music or WikiProject Music Genres NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Blackbeard http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blackbeard&oldid=238458126 - defer to WikiProject Piracy NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

William Penn - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=William_Penn_(Royal_Navy_officer)&oldid=234779534 plus version selected by WikiProject Pennsylvania (as my diff comes from "William Penn (Royal Naval Officer)" on his father rather than the article on the founder of the state) NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Bristol City F.C. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bristol_City_F.C.&oldid=238986987 Banksy http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Banksy&oldid=239051582 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Great Western Railway http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Great_Western_Railway&oldid=237453219 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

John Cabot http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Cabot&oldid=237763082 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

River Avon, Bristol http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=River_Avon,_Bristol&oldid=226612315 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Other articles within the project scope to be included?

Please state whether you agree with my selections or not, and if you agree sign the diff to be included. If you feel I've missed a key article please add it to the list - I have this page watchlisted so I'll add my own opinions on any new links as well. NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

University of the West of England http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=University_of_the_West_of_England&oldid=238165976 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Bristol Temple Meads railway station http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bristol_Temple_Meads_railway_station&oldid=238850169 (only change is to add Bristol Harbourside, which isn't correct based on geography.) NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

SS Great Britain http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SS_Great_Britain&oldid=238849273 NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Isambard Kingdom Brunel http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel&oldid=238571602 - although that one more so because it wasn't tagged by the end of July (I'm just doing) NullofWest (talk) 19:24, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

William Penn

Why is William Penn a page in this wikiproject? His page makes no mention of Bristol. -mattbuck (Talk) 19:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be William Penn (Royal Navy officer) a Bristol sailor who became an admiral & was the father of William Penn.— Rod ^talk 20:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

W.G. Grace in Downend

Where am I?

I've been transwikiing images from WP:BRISTOL articles, and I came across Image:WGGRACEMURALDOWNEND.jpg - does anyone know exactly where this is so I can get it geocoded? (possibly more photos for geocoding to follow) -mattbuck (Talk) 15:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

On the side of the shopping centre, overlooking the roundabout here. William Avery (talk) 16:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

OK, location request #2 - Image:Bristol Redland Kingsdown.jpg. I have a vague idea of where it was taken, but I can't manage to match it up to reality. My current best guess is the junction of Kersteman Rd & Salisbury Rd. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

pic of Leigh Court

Does anyone have a photo to illustrate the article on Leigh Court? I've been expanding the article & think a picture to illustrate the architecture would help. I've looked on Geograph & can't find one.— Rod ^talk 15:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Can't say I even knew the place existed, and I've driven past it enough times. -mattbuck (Talk) 15:48, 11 October 2008 (UTC)