User talk:JesseW

Archiving policy

I will remove discussions on here that I feel are done with when I feel like it. I will mark such changes with the following summary:'''archiving''' (see history if you want to put stuff back) If you object, or feel that I've removed stuff I shouldn't, feel free to re-add it from the history. If you then comment on it mentioning that I've removed it, and asking me not to, I won't remove it again. If that kind of stuff gets beyond 32k, I'll move it to archive page(s), each of about 32k in size, and put links to them here. JesseW 09:43, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The actual page

HHGG

You've added a link to the inexistent article about your upcoming website. You shouldn't have done that, because:

1. Do not add references unless something is done.
2. Your site should only be included as an article if it was REALLY important and relevant.
3. You shouldn't make it an external link either, for the above reasons.
4. Wikipedia is NOT a web guide. Don't promote your websites here

Kieff, thanks for being so vigilant, however you are in error about some things:

• The Index is not my website, nor is it created by me.
• It is a very useful tool for fans of HHGttG, and quite relevant to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy page.
• I have recieved permission from the author for it to be under GFDL, thereby ready for the Wikipedia.
• Having the Index on Wikipedia will allow it to be updated, it will allow editors to add new entries, and it will allow editors with different editions of the book to add information about their edition to the index.

That is why I felt that it would be both encyclopedic, and generally useful.

Regarding creating a reference before creating the page, I had understood that I should create the reference first, rather than creating an orphaned page, and then linking it to related pages. If I misunderstood, I am sorry.

Finally, Kieff, please sign your comments on talk pages, especially if you are telling someone off.

Sorry about the signature, guess I forgot. About the page, if you really think it's a REALLY relevant link, you can add it, but it'll be verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did). But if it's like that, we should probably include MJ Simpson's Planet Magrathea site on the external links. — Kieff | Talk 05:59, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

Since I'm waiting for a final conformation regarding GFDL status for the Index, I added it as an External Link in the meantime. I also added Planet Magrathea, as you suggested. ;-) What did you mean "verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did)"? I'm sure other editors will look at the changes and some may fall into the same misunderstandings as you did, but, AFAIK there is no "verification", just many eyes. Thanks again for your vigilance. JesseW 06:17, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

When webpages are linked to in Wikipedia, people usually check how relevant it is (using Google or Alexa ranks and such), and see if the addition of it in Wikipedia is or is not needed~, or if it is some sort of self promotion and etc. — Kieff | Talk 06:43, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)

I see. Thanks! I didn't know about that before. JesseW 06:47, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comma, stress, etc.

Thanks for your nice note. That was thoughtful. :) Maurreen 04:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Housekeeping medal

Hi, Jesse. I gave you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Services. Maurreen 03:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome! You deserve it. Maurreen 05:09, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia namespace

Thank you for your kind words. Cleaning neglected areas of the Wikipedia (like this one) produces a satisfaction not unlike that of cleaning a very dirty room. You can see a big difference after you've finished, and thus feel you've accomplished something. I guess that's why I'm doing it. 8) -- Beland 01:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

re: NPOV explanation

"You're welcome!" he says, in an embarassed but flattered tone of voice. :) Garrett^Talk 10:29, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

California Certified Organic Farmers on DYK

Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article California Certified Organic Farmers, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Wikiprojects

Thank you for your kind words regarding this. Sorry to be so tardy in replying, I have been on holiday. Steve block talk 21:56, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

doNextItem() in monobook.js not working in Opera

Hi JesseW.... Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't already, that the latest version of your monobook.js (dated 20:11, 1 August 2005) doesn't seem to work in Opera — that is, unless I'm doing something wrong, which won't be the first time :) . I'm using the latest version, Opera 8.02 for Windows, en-US. Everything works fine in Firefox & IE, though.

I think the problem's somewhere in doNextItem(). I was able to get it to work if I commented it out & any references to it. I don't know enough javascript to nail it down any further, though (which is why I'm trying to use your monobook.js instead of writing my own :) ). Here's the exact error message that's showing up on my javascript console:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit
Event thread: BeforeScript
Syntax error while loading: line 5 of inline script at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit : 
ocation=oldone+"&basepage="+escape(baseul)}; if (/basepage=/
---------------------------------------------------^

It stops there, and nothing else from monoscript.js works. I made sure all my javascript settings were on in Opera, but the error keeps showing up. I have heard, though, that Opera is more strict at parsing javascript code than other browsers :( .

If you happen to have any spare time to fix it, that'd be great. And if you need any more details, let me know. Thanks! -- Gsp 09:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi again, JesseW. Sorry, I don't use IRC. I did try your suggestion, but I got the same error. :( -- Gsp 21:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

Why...

...Thank you! A Reedie! I don't think I've ever met one on Wikipedia before now. And what's this "ex" stuff? Not anything serious is it? Perhaps we'll meet this year :) Nice to be noticed (as long as I wasn't doing something stupid), so it was kind of you to leave a note. I guess I want people to get this user-page-off-limits taboo out of their systems, I mean it's a wiki, right? So what was I gonna... hey! how did you just leave me a message when I was in the middle of writing you? Anyway... funnily enough Image:San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg was my computer wallpaper, reminds me of home. Well, thanks, and oh no, Daily Show's on already. (Oh yeah, pg. 160 and counting of the Iliad- er, little behind :) Dmcdevit·t 06:04, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Page vandalism

You're welcome. Oh, don't worry about me having a problem with taking cr*p, I've just come back from a loooooooooooooong Wikivacation, so I'm pretty upbeat right now.  :) Zoe 20:13, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the list

I'm surprised by its small size and the general high quality. I have used it to identify three articles for deletion though. lots of issues | leave me a message 21:01, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

Admin?

Greetings! You always pop up on my watchlist doing helpful admin-type things, but as I recall you're not an admin. Would you be interested? (If so, do you have any terrible dirty laundry a potential nominator ought to know about? I didn't find any myself. :-)) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:50, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

I'd be honnored. I've been irritated by not being able to fix the backlog on WP:CP. As for dirty laundry, I don't think so. My basic principle on the wiki is pretty strong eventualism - i.e. I avoide controversial topics 98% of the time. Thanks very much for thinking of me. JesseW 02:00, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good; I'll go write up a nomination, then. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Posted. Cheers! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Stated I'm aware, and answered the questions. Thanks again! JesseW 04:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Response to your reply of my question

I thought I would bring this here, saves people reading a whole essay. I answer your question by saying "the smarter the person, the more questions they ask". Its always been a good guage as far as I can tell. Second, I appreciate when people take the trouble to find out what the correct answer is. There are a few admins who are extremely liberal with their right to act somewhat arbitrarily. Lastly, I am extremely satisfied with your responses, and I plan to include this part, at least, to the dialogue we have engaged in over at the RfA page. I think you'll do a good job as an admin. And for the record, I have no "political" agenda to push concerning inclusionism, deletionism, whatever. I just want to see WP become a better source of information. More complete, but without becoming cluttered with nonsense. As I have been saying on these RfA pages recently, an administrators first duty is to the Wikipedia, and secondarily, to the community itself. Good luck with your bid. I plan to support your nomination. Thanks for prodding me a bit too, it shows your not afraid to confront a situation with intelligence and resolution. Hamster Sandwich 00:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

• Congratulating you on your successful promotion. Good luck with the mop and bucket. See you 'round the wiki! Hamster Sandwich 18:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Sysop rights

Congratulations on your adminship. If you need and help or advice, don't hesitate to ask me, or any of the other Admins and Bureaucrates. Uncle Ed 17:52, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Gee whizz

...what a crazy redirect you came up with just then. Have a Working Man's Barnstar as it appears you do this quite often:

Take care, Molotov (talk) 20:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Well, thank you. Just trying to prevent further deletions of that title. I do do lots of maintance and cleanup work. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:13, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar :) Looks like the backlog at WP:CP is really starting to go down --Duk 21:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Jesse, and thanks for the barnstar -- it is very much appreciated. I'm sorry that I don't have time just at the moment to give much attention to Wikipedia in general and WP:CP in particular. Having a job sucks. :) --Ngb ^?!? 22:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Lakewood Blvd. Or one of them...

Hey, glad to provide a little amusement since it's often pretty hard to come by in AFD. I was actually taken aback by Moncrief's challenge. It never occurred to me that there might be only one Lakewood Blvd. and I had forgotten about the one in my home town. Quale 01:33, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

View diff since your last change

Hi, I tried your view diff since your last change bookmarklet listed at WP:Tools, but I couldn't get it to work. Right now it's just showing me the diff of the last change made to the page. I seem to remember reading somewhere that in the conversion to 1.5 that they slightly changed the formatting of the history page, and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. It could be that it's working for you and I've just been using it wrong. Let me know. Thanks! -- Norvy (talk) 05:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Johnny Woo

Hiya - you've changed the Johnny Woo page into a redirect for the Judge Dredd Megazine and called it a "merge". However, none of the material has been merged into the other article. Also, Johnny Woo, as a separate character to Judge Dredd, is notable enough for a separate article (for all that the one that was there was too stubby - I kept meaning to deal with it). All in all, this looks like a deletion by any other name. Am i missing something? Cheers, Vizjim 12:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice comments. I've reverted the article. Keep up the good work! Vizjim 19:51, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Deleting images

When you delete an image, could you please first remove all references to it from the articles? Thank you. Lupo 10:02, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Dear Jesse, from one janitor to another: you may have noticed that I help clearing the {{nosource}} category, too, yet I take the trouble not to leave broken links behind. Not removing dead links to deleted images is just sloppy work. Lupo 09:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

• Yes, I concur with Lupo on this point. If you do not want to cleanup the links, then please do not delete the images. RedWolf 00:30, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
  • I have no problem cleaning up the links, I just, as per the speedy criteria, and the magnitude of the job, consider it better to clean up the links after the categories have been cleaned out, rather than slowing down that job by doing the link cleanup at the same time. For my full response see User_talk:Lupo#Re:_deleting_images JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:02, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Deletion bot?

No deletion bot. I'm just going wild with a tabbed browser and copy-pasting the edit summaries. What kind of tool are you using there? And is it something I could use? :) Coffee 09:48, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

hi

case you were wondering- user:patrick Lucas has not been a real user since I'v had an eye on him. he appeared to edit a few articles, nominate some stuff for deletion then go on vacay or some shit cuz he's been gone. Ish ^{(fake science alert)} 04:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Er. "real user"? I'm not sure what you mean by this - the account was a Wikipedia:Sockpuppet of some other user, or what? In any case, while I appreciate the information, I am somewhat confused as to what your relationship is to it. Why are you watching the talk page of a inactive user? Not that there's anything wrong with it, just that it seems odd. But, thanks anyway. JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

right on. sorry. I'm bitter. he nominated something that was meaningful to me for deletion. there ya go. I found this suspicious cuz 1.) he never seemed to give a solid reason why he nominated it, tho plenty of other people made a reasonable case for deletion. and 2.) he hasn't done shit on wikipedia since. I recently came back to his talk page to see if he would defend his action. ya know, usually people make a case for their deletion nomination, if someone objects. usually, ya know, this proces entails a community working together to decide what's deleted and what's not. Rational people are often seen working together civilly, right? I have yet to hear back from him. this is why the deletion process is f-ing gay.

so. wow. thanks for listening. I noticed you left him a message. I basically meant to say I don't think he's "home". and, he doesn't seem to be a typical "user with a stake in the community." I could be wrong. I'm currently waiting to hear back. Ish ^{(fake science alert)} 21:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey Jesse. It has come to my attention that you're an awesome User. So have this.—encephalon 09:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Awarded to JesseW for being generally awesome. —encephalon 09:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

Undelete and bring to AfD?

A few days ago I noticed you deleting a number of articles tagged as speedies. Just judging from the summary available in the deletion log and a quick googling, it seems to me that a few of these may have potential. I would suggest undeleting them and taking them to WP:AFD instead. I think there is a chance somebody will expand them there. See list below. Tupsharru 14:46, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

• "Michael P. Haydock" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}Michael P. Haydock was the former boss of Cray Inc.{{business-bio-stub}}{{compu-bio-stub}}')

Somebody who has been president and CEO of a leading producer of supercomputers is probably notable

You are probably correct; however, I feel this can be deleted under CSD A1 - minimal context as well; nevertheless, if you wish to recreate it, I won't speedy it again. (It's not that hard to recreate, as you have the full text right there.

• "David Komansky" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}{{importance}}David Komansky (born 1939) was chairman of Merrill Lynch.

Another leader of a major corporation

Same as above; CSD A1 as well, feel free to recreate.

• "Michael Garland" (content was: '<nowiki>{{nn-bio}}Michael Garland is a book illustrator.{{artist-stub}}Garland')</nowiki>

It is perhaps debatable whether this is an assertion of notability, but he seems to have illustrated quite a few books[1][2]

Merely being a book illustrator is not a assertion of notability; however, if you want to create good stub on him, I would be delighted - go to it!

• "K. C. Bokadia" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}K C Bokadia is an Indian filmmaker.{{film-stub}}Bokadia')

Has an IMDB page with several films listed: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0092555/

Sale as the last one; being a filmaker is not an assertion of notability; however, if he really is notable, please create a good stub. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

• "Deepak Tijori" (content was: '<nowiki>{{nn-bio}}{{cleanup-importance}}Deepak Tijori (b. 28 August,1961) is an Indian actor.{{actor-stub}}')</nowiki>

IMDB-page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0863120/

Same as above.

• "Farouque Sheikh" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}Farouque Sheikh is an Indian actor.{{actor-stub}}Sheikh')

IMDB-page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0787582/

Same as above.

• "Kenneth Calman" (CSD A1 content was: '{{delete}}Vice Chancellor of Durham University')

Little content, but chances are some Durham student or alumnus might improve it if it was brought to AfD.

Why burden AfD? Just mention on the Durham University page that it would be nice to have a article on Kenneth Calman, the Vice Chancellor, and you are more likely to find someone knowledgeable to work on it.

While I appreciate you looking over the speedy deletions, and I encourage you to continue(I've done it myself recently), I don't think these specific ones need to be undeleted(mainly due to their minimal content making recreation trivial). Thanks for the discussion! JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I just thought it may be a good idea to give whoever might be interested the chance to improve them before they get deleted. That doesn't work with speedy deletion, but is frequently the result of an AfD. However, I am not in the habit of writing one-line substubs and I don't personally care enough about any single of these articles to recreate it with proper content myself. If you don't think undeletion and AfD is appropriate in these cases, I'm not going to insist on it. Tupsharru 22:27, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

"Improve" them? But the point that I, and Friday, have been trying to make is precisely that there is a negligible ammount of content to improve - these pages were effectively requested articles, not real articles, or even stubs. AfD is not a place to list requested articles. I am glad you are not in the habit of writing one-line substubs. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

At the risk of being a buttinski, here's an outside opinion. What's the point of undeleting articles with such minimal content? Anyone who wanted to write a proper article on any of these subjects could easily do so, without benefit of undeletion. Afd is pretty crowded these days; I'd hate to see it used unneccessarily. To me an undeletion generally only makes sense when it's the only way to get useful content back. Friday (talk) 16:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I don't mind the buttinski-ing. As I said above, I agree with you on these. Thanks. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Florist

Jesse, I created a bunch of stubs, Floral design, Floristry and Floristics after I noticed that some <stricken out> experts turned them into redirects to ikebana. Only after that I noticed your excellent essay "Florist". However I cannot help but notice that the proper title to the text of "Florist" would be "Floristry". I trust you to finish the job: AFAIK, the "-stry" article must have an emphasis on the craft, while the "-st" article on the skills, if you know what I mean.

If you have things better to do, you may want to simply merge florist and floristry; I will not mind. mikka (t) 05:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment! I thought it(the essay at Florist) was probably under the wrong title, but it's not a very focussed essay, so I wasn't really sure. I've merged it into Floristry. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

copyvio template

Brilliant idea to add a copy&pasteable copyvio report line to the copyvio template, big time saver. Thanks! --fvw* 22:45, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

/me bows. Why thank you! It just came to me when I noticed that it was mentioned on the WP:CP subpages, but not in the template, where it could include the info. Glad you find it useful! JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:50, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

Your monobook.js - cross-browser

I've found a few bugs in your monobook.js making it not cross-browser compatible (I'm an Opera user myself). I wasn't sure whether to edit your copy directly.

1. When finding changes since my last edit and parsing the history page, Opera seems to consider the line-break preceding the list of <li> elements as a text node. Hence hists[n].getElementsByTagName("span") doesn't work. I fixed this by testing first whether hists[n] has getElementsByTagName...
2. element.textContent is Mozilla-proprietry code, although Opera will be bringing it in in Opera 9. It is probably best to build a new function, ie function textContent(el) { if (el.textContent) return el.textContent; return el.innerText; } - then call textContent(el) instead of el.textContent.

If you would like me to make these changes to your code myself, I would be happy to. --jnothman ^talk 06:33, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

It wouldn't have been much of a useful script to me if I hadn't made patches, so here is your script with the two patches: [3] --jnothman ^talk 06:52, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

You're awesome

It boogles my mind how it took me so long to find the goddamn load event. I didn't really see (must have missed) it on other monobooks. Much thanks! - RoyBoy ⁸⁰⁰ 00:57, 3 November 2005 (UTC)

Don't forget to note the other me

Just a note so I remember to list the edits I made from the Alliance office. See /not logged in. 24.126.231.245 23:30, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

unknown source counts?

Hi! I was wondering if you could be so kind as to run the unknown source count thingy again? It hasn't been done in some time, and so I'm not sure how the cleanup project is going. :-) If you don't want to do this, I wonder if you could let me know who I might ask?--Jimbo Wales 10:56, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Javascript 'changes since I last edited' script

Hi Jesse,

I tried to copy the bit from your Monobook.js file to make the 'Changes since I last edited' feature work for me. I also copied the function addlilinks which I believe it requires. But nothing has changed, or if it has, I don't know where. How can I tell when this has been implemented? If you had a minute to look at my .js file it would be much appreciated. I don't know Javascript so maybe all I am missing is a bracket somewhere, but I can't tell. (If it's relevant, I'm using Fx 1.0.7 on WinXP.) TIA if you can help me out (I have been dreaming about this functionality for weeks!) cheers, pfctdayelise 05:37, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Er, thanks for fixing my link...pfctdayelise 00:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks Jesse. It's time I was in bed but thanks for the kind words. I really do think I'm going to try and stick to the article space, it's so much easier and is more the point of it all. Anyway, have a WikiThanks, , you really cheered me up. And likewise, I appreciate the work you do round here as well. Steve block talk 22:24, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Dzamonja and others

Yea they all have tags but I didn't put the sources for all - which at the time didn't seem a necessity from all the images I've been coming across. Anyway, the Dzamonja img is from Wikiverse. I put that there. Unfortunately, I don't know where the original poster got it from - can't find it anywhere. Antidote 00:20, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

PS: I don't see whats the problem with the Stojowskia and Nybut images. I added not removed tags. Antidote 00:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Dzamonja

Maybe you can ask the User who originally uploaded it where he found it? Antidote 04:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Stojowski and Nybut

Well I doubt the image is copyrighted by the webpage holders - I think they just took it from a book or something since it looks more like an old picture (like you mentioned). Seeing as it can be used in a webpage of the like - it seems no stringent copyright rule may be imposed upon it. Antidote 04:55, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Cleaning up after image deletions

Hi Jesse! Could you make sure that when you delete an unsourced image you check first to make sure that no articles link to that image, and de-link any that do. I just went to the page for Handsworth, South Yorkshire and there is an ugly red-link in place of the image that used to be there (Image:Handsworth,_Sheffield.jpg). Thanks, JeremyA 05:54, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

After all the deletions that need to be done(i.e. the no source, and the no license, and the WP:CP pages are all without backlogs, I'll happily work on the parts of the process than do not require janitorial functions. I appreciate the reminder. (And, hey, we are getting closer: the no source category is under 3000!) JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

Delay on image deletions

According to WP:CSD I4, Images are not suppsoed to be spedy deleted unles they ahve been tagged with {{nosource}} or a simialr tag of 7 days or more. It looks from the log as if you deleted Image:Tournamentbracket.png on the same day it was tagged. The uploader has just inquired at the help desk. I happen to think it is a good idea when tagging images as no source to notify the uploader -- he might be able to provide source and copyright info -- but it seems that the tagger did not do so in this case. DES ^(talk) 17:45, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

While I do appreciate the reminder, and the help in cleaning up the errors that will unavoidably come up when doing as large a job as clearing out the backlog at {{no source}}, it seems you read the log wrong in this case. According to the history of Image:Tournamentbracket.png the no source tag was added 08:13, 10 January 2005; according to the deletion log, I deleted it on 16:36, 10 December 2005, 12 months later. While it is a shame that the uploader was not notified, I did follow the procedure in the CSDs. I'm delighted that the uploader still had a copy and was able to reupload it, with proper source and license info. The process is working; thanks for your help. (Copied to help desk, and DES's talk) JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:55, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

My apologies -- I seem to have mis-read the log. No doubt the coincidence in day-of-the-month helped me mis-read. I agree that the delting admin is under no obligation to notify the uploader and delay further if the image has been tagged properly. In this case the image was retrived from a mirror, answers.com, as suggested on the Lost Images page. Thanks for your work on image cleanup. DES ^(talk) 22:04, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Dzamonja image

Uh, sorry for a belated answer: I haven't been on wiki for some time. Well-sincerely, I don't recall exactly. I think (not sure) it was a xeroxed image from a Croatia's tourist guide I received via e-mail. Still-I'm not sure. With regard to copyright policy, you know the rules. Best Mir Harven 21:07, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Rocker images

Hi

I am the main contributor / developer of the Rocker topic and webmaster of the http://www.the59club.com. I see that you have deleted our photographs, seemingly without any consultation.

I would like them re-instated. If you can help me, I will apply the correct copyright status.

All images - except for those stated otherwise - are credited to the collection of Father Graham Hullett who was leader of the 59 Club.

Those of his collection used with his permission.

I am sorry if I missed an notification you placed but for the life of me I cant remember seeing any. This article was the first I contributed to and, I will be honest, I did not know what notification I was supposed to put up there on the image page.

Thanks,

195.82.106.14 03:57, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to the article Rockers, the images Image:Rockers1.jpg, Image:Rockershiroko.jpg, Image:Rockerscaferacer.gif, Image:Rockerspete.jpg, Image:Rockersannie.jpg, and Image:Rockerbikes.jpg, and you are User:Mitsu(the uploader of all those images)? First, I just want to thank you for writing and illustrating the article - I just read it, and it's very nice, and quite interesting. I also want to applogize for no-one having contacted you with regards to the un-sourced status of the images. When they were tagged as being un-sourced, the person who tagged them should have contacted you. In regards to the images, please see this page for some basic points that you need to be aware of with regards to uploading images for use on Wikipedia. If the images you had uploaded fit those requirements, I'd be delighted if you would re-upload them (if you don't stil have copies, you may be able to find them at one of the Wikipedia mirrors). Thanks again for your work on the article, and sorry about this mis-communication. JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:46, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi. Yes, that is right. I am not a " pro " wikipedian, I only take on what I know and I was personally involved in all this stuff, i.e. not book learnt. It was the first I wrote and I had no idea that I had to put that stuff on personal or club photographs. Ditto the comments above from someone else about contacting uploaders and removing image links from articles, it makes them look awful.195.82.106.127 21:11, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Well, lets get them back up there; the most important thing with regards to using images on Wikipedia is that they be "free content", i.e. Public Domain, or released under the GFDL (or various other similar licenses). Are you the copyright holder for these images, or can you contact the person or organization who is? The next needed piece of information is a description of the source, which can help make it clear who the copyright owner is (as well as just explaining the photo). I asssume you can provide this without any trouble. Finally, when that information is in order, we just need to reupload the images. Do still have copies (or are they up on the 59club website?) I do appreciate you working with me to get the images properly sourced and licensed, and back up in the article - I think they did (and will) really add to it. Thanks for helping out the 'pedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

layman bookmarklet request

I'd like to try some of your bookmarklets at Wikipedia:Tools/Browser_integration#Specialised_bookmarklets but I cannot figure out how to add them to my Mozilla bookmarks (as they are not links, just text). Could you add a short layman 'how to', perhaps to the empty 'instructions' section(s) at the relevant bookmarklets page?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 17:41, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

'since' script

A script that you (supposedly) made isn't working. Someone else has said this on the talk page and the problem is the gotosince=true, as the script takes you to en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=<the title of the page>&action=history&gotosince=true, before redirecting you to only the last edit (not the difference since you last edited it). What is going on here, and, as I know next to nothing of Javascript, can you fix it? Thelb⁴ 18:50, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Barnstar

For simple but beautiful additions to {{copyvio}} which made it so much easier to report copyvios! Dan100 (Talk) 20:14, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

Halvard Lange

Wow; three minutes after I wrote the first draft, you found the Norwegian labor party link(which I thought there probably would be one, somewhere) and fixed it up. Wow, I say again. I'm curious; did you find it via the stub-cat, or some other method? Thanks for your work on the 'pedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

• Thanks! I am Norwegian, so I knew where the article was located. But another way to find it is via the Category:Political parties in foo. By the way, thanks for making articles about Norwegian people. Punkmorten 09:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Invalid CSD for Stephen Manzo

The tag you removed the article was very valid, the person refered to Stephen Manzo is a false article. I know this because: I am Stephen Manzo, I am a chemist that went to Rutgers Camden and finally I have a friend who likes to vandalize this site and that article was created completely by him to mock Wikipedia. He created the article extreamly loosly based on me. He wanted to see how long it would last. Since I found out, I marked the page for quick deletion. Please look up Stephen Manzo or any references to that article and you will see they are all fictional creations. Also to aid in my case, that last link to the paper will show Stephen Manzo is no where on it. oneofmanysteves

Thanks very much for alerting us to that; such subtle vandalism can survive on Wikipedia for quite a while if no-one who knows it's false speaks up. It would be have been nice if you mentioned the bad ref(s) in the db bit; hoaxes don't come up so often that we're somewhat out of practice dealing with them. JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:54, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

No problem, I should made a note, that was my fault. I was sort of in the heat of the moment when I found out and tagged it as quickly as I could. Thank you for following up with the request. oneofmanysteves

The user Hummas who created the fictional article Stephen Manzo, also has another name under stephen manzo. Basically he is a sock puppet now, you can take a look at my talk page where he has been placing false claims. I was wondering if there was a way to teach him a lesson. I don't mean to be a bother, but you know best of this claim. Like I had mentioned before he likes to vandalize this site and I am strongly against this, so I am taking all action I can. Any help would be greatly welcomed. Thank you, oneofmanysteves 00:52, 13 June 2024 UTC [refresh]

Related Changes javascript

In August, you requested "a tranformer for Related Changes to put it in watchlist format" on Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts. I've done this at User:Cryptic/relatedchanges.js. Of course, it's obsolesced by the "Enhanced recent changes (JavaScript)" option in Preferences, if you can tolerate what that does to your watchlist (I can't). —Cryptic (talk) 16:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Beware of the tigers

A very nice essay I want to link on my user page. (Me, logged out.) 66.81.201.116 09:51, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

images

hello

• image:Coleo1(s).jpg
• image:Dessication.JPG
• image:Dune.JPG
• image:Dune1.JPG
• image:Dune3.JPG
• image:Dune4.JPG
• image:Hymenoptere2(s).JPG
• image:SablePlante.JPG
• image:SandwichDanny.jpg

This is very nice to propose your help ! As you can see, several people have helped me to gather some of the deleted already. As far as my memory goes, I had two versions of the hymenoptere, so I do not mind one being deleted. The sandwich was a present for Danny, so I think he will not miss it now (he saw it when it was relevant as a gift). So thank you very much for your help, but I think I do not need it. But I really appreciate. Anthere 23:58, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

You're Welcome

Were you by any chance editing the article on Pope Pius XII, or some other article on the Catholic Church in the twentieth century? That is a very difficult editor I was responding to, but I have an RfAr against him. Robert McClenon 11:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

sources namespace

Another option would be to have Wikiversity function as the central Wikimedia project for listing sources and for most discussions of the relative value of sources. Users of Wikipedia, Wikibooks, and Wikinews could cooperatively keep lists of useful sources at Wikiversity, preventing duplication of effort at various Wikimedia projects. Each Wikipedia article's talk page could link to the Wikiversity source pages that are relevant. --JWSchmidt 14:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I have no objections to that idea, but it's a much larger project than the using of direct quotes that I assume you were responding to. Let's do the smaller work first. JesseW, the juggling janitor 17:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I was commenting on this effort. I also agree with what you wrote about the utility of direct quotes in references.

hi Jesse

 from waldo! 0waldo 01:20, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Er, did you have something specifc to say? JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:38, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm so sorry Jesse... I left off the part about wishing you a happy new year! 0waldo 01:51, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok. I'm still somewhat puzzled that you felt it necessary to wish me a happy new year, but why not. Thanks. JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

Flute picture source

Hi, thanks for getting in touch with me. I've provided a source for the picture you mentioned. --King of All the Franks 00:09, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Hi!

Thanks for the kind words on my talk, I think before I just forgot how many nice people there are around here! keep up the good work - Martin 10:10, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it does get hard to remember sometimes. Feel free to drop a note on my page to chat, though. JesseW, the juggling janitor 10:12, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

The Scotsman

You removed the stub templates from The Scotsman article, saying: "this is more than a page long; it's about as far from a stub as you can get!".

In fact, it could easily be argued that that article is a borderline case. Being a stub is nothing to do with length, it regards comprehensiveness. Some very short articles are not stubs, and many medium-length articles are most certainly only stubs, because they omit fundamental information. For a presentation of the issues, see Wikipedia:Stub.

I am not going to re-add them, because it is not terribly important. However, I do think that stubbing an article is the first step to expanding and improving it; and that The Scotsman article requires an awful lot of expansion.--Mais oui! 10:35, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

I applogize for the somewhat brusque tone of my edit summary, I should have been a little more calm. I do agree with you about the def of a stub, I was surprised in this case as I was comparing it to the first version which was one line long. Compared to that, it's hardly a stub. I agree that the article can certainly use expansion, but again, compared with thousands upon thousands of much more needy articles, it doesn't seem like "stub" material to me. For resources on alerting others to expand an article, you might look into the Articles needing expansion page, Peer review, or one of the Collaborations of the Fourtnight(see the Community portal for a list). (Pardon the lack of links, I'm too tired right now to find them.) I do really appreciate you commenting on this on my talk page, thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 11:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Only just saw your reply. Thanks.--Mais oui! 14:44, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

Added redirect category list to Wiki Syntax talk page.

Hi JesseW, There is a list of redirect categories on the Wiki Syntax talk page as per your request. I might remove it in a few days though, as it is causing the talk page to be in lots of categories that it shouldn't be in :-( -- All the best, Nickj (t) 02:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually I've just done a bulk search-and-replace so that the talk page is no longer in any categories because of this (it means the literal contents of the category redirect may not be verbatim correct, but there should be enough to give the general idea), so ignore that last bit (unless you can think of a better place to move this list to). -- All the best, Nickj (t) 02:34, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Deleted images redux

While checking my user page I accidentally noticed that one of the images linked from it disappeared without a trace. I discovered that three images uploaded by me long ago under fairuse licence - Image:Krom.jpg, Image:Krutitsy.jpg, Image:Zvenigorod.jpg - were removed by OrphanBot from the articles on Pskov, Krutitsy, Zvenigorod and deleted by you without prior notification of myself as the uploader. In the past, when OrphanBot removed fairuse images, I instantly provided the source and restored the images to the article. Therefore, I'm quite frustrated with your arbitrary deletions. Please don't do this again. Also, it took me some time to download this page, please do other editors a favour and archive it at last. --Ghirla | talk 11:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry that you were not contacted when the images were tagged, or at a later point; my only excuse was the vast number of images to take care of(over 12,000 when we started). I really appreciate your work in contributing to Wikipedia. Regarding the three images you mentioned, they all lacked any statement of their source. I hope you would agree that, in nearly all cases, a source is necessary for any legitimate fair use claim. If you remember what the source was for the images, please re-upload them with that information. If you don't still have copies of the images, they may be available via one of Wikipedia's mirrors; I'd be happy to help you find them there. Just so you know, the {{fairuse}} tag actually requires more than just a source - as it says: "For each use of this image, please provide a detailed rationale as to why this image qualifies as fair use." To prevent the images from needing to be removed again, it would be good if you would provide such a rationale. But, in any case, the source is an absolute basic necessity.

BTW, I have no connection to the OrphanBot, and I actually have archived my talk page, a number of times in fact; but you're quite right, it is getting rather long; I'll trim it back somemore... JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:21, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Mirrors and forks

I found out that you have that "really old" mirrors and forks page. Lack of people to talk about this, is anyone active in that project? I was rather annoyed by some of those sites, but I cannot possibly manage them all by myself. So yeah. I added lots of sites today. -- WB

Cyclopaedia

Finally! Another! :) Thanks for your help. I've been going through the Cyclopaedia, page by page, adding any interesting entries or pictures, but I'm not being nearly as thorough as I should be. The comprehensive list really is needed. — ₀₉₁₈^BRIAN • 2006-01-15 14:55

Clean-up suggestions required

Hi Jesse When you get a chance, can you please review the Yercaud page and pass on your suggestions related to quality of the page? Currently the page is marked for improving the quality. I am not sure, what is missing in the page as of now, from information/formatting perspective.--bkris 13:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Image:Joe Locke 02.jpg

Hello Jesse, I was told you deleted this image on September 28 - I hope you remember ;-) the same user hat problems with the Joe Locke use pics on de.wp and uploaded this as "own work" now. The photoshop effects make me doubt a bit..., moreover, there is this pic at a former version of answer.com. Can you remember if it was this picture you deleted? Was it a clear copyvio or anything unclear? I don't want to play detective or assume bad faith, but I hate being cheated or taken for a fool ;-)

Can you remember anything concerning this image? Feel free to answer on my talk page here. Thank you! --elya 21:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Howdy

Jessew, my old pal. I have a request. You have the most gentle soul of anybody I know on Wikipedia. There's an editor who, well, isn't quite in sync with the norms of Wikipedia. Sometimes I come on too strongly and maybe you'd be a better liaison/editor than I could be. I'm referring to user:RJBurkhart. I know it's far afield, but can you take a look? Thanks, -Will Beback 11:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm IRC-inept. The issue is that he seems to operate on a different plane than the rest of the project. He uses talk pages as staging grounds for material that I'm not sure we want to have, but it's hard to tell. You were so nice to me when I started and you may know of a way to nudge him in a friendly way. If not, don't worry. He's not a vandal or a POV pusher, though some of his work has required a janitorial response. Cheers, -Will Beback 06:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: irc, ok; it's nice for quick, private communication, but, np. As for the specific issue of using talk pages for proposing material - that's fine, that's expected and good - in the limited looks I've looked at(mainly part of eis talk page) - e seems to be just doing newbie not-knowing-our-ways stuff - no problem there. If there's any other specific issues, please comment. I'd be happy to leave some nice heres-how-to-do-this-and-thanks-for-your-work'ly message on eis talk page, but I'm not sure what subject to address it to; suggestions? JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've looked at (and cleaned up) Cimarron River and (partly) Cimarron, New Mexico; now I know what I'll say; mainly on the topic of bolding, links to talk pages, and I'll mention referencing, links etc.(although I won't push those very hard as they are still pretty evil to push on those who don't find them amusing). Thanks for bringing this to my attention. And, just let me mention that I am still glad you are still here and still working - keep up the good work. JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Kurdish people

Why do you delete that Kurds are indigenous? Please look at the talk! Everyone agrees that Kurdish people are native. Kordestan 09:02, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, the removal of the word "indigenous" was an accident. I meant to revert only this edit, where you removed some text with no explanation. Feel free to re-add "indigenous", sorry about that. JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Link spam

Due to the high frequency of anonymous link-spam at your subpage User:JesseW/Full mirror list (see [4]), I've semi-protected it. I hope you don't mind. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 00:00, Jan. 21, 2006

No I don't mind at all - It'd gotten lost off my watchlist; I've put it (and my other subpages) back on. That page really ought to be permanetly protected, actually - it's just a list of transcoded subpages - there should be no reason to edit it at all... You're welcome to fully protect it if you wish. JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:56, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 03:00, Jan. 21, 2006

Template:Nowcommons

Huh, I thought it was incorrent (showed up as a red link when I copy/pasted it), but it seems you are correct. Thanks for catching my mistake. -Greg Asche (talk) 05:24, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Uncat report

The report is running now, it shold be done sooner or later, and will be avialable here. Let me know if you need anything else. Cheers. --Interiot 08:34, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! I'm (trying) to load it right now... JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:16, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

Kelantan River

I notice you put a Cleanup box on this page. I realise that I caused confusion because the image on the page was mine - but when I uploaded it I was so new to Wikipedia that I must have forgotten to login before uploading? That's the only reason I can think of why my photo has been deleted without trace, and without notifying me. I will upload again, and remember to login first! I'm still pretty new to all this (only 2 weeks since registering), so forgive me. Euchiasmus 11:27, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me; I added the {{clarify}} tag as I could not tell what country the river was in, and didn't have time at that momemnt to research it. As some nice person corrected the stub-tag I added, clarifing that the river was in Malaysia, I fixed up the format of the page, adding some links to other pages, and bolding the title. That was why I added the tag, I had no opinion on the image issue; I don't think it was deleted; at least, there's no record of that file name having been deleted; maybe it just failed to upload. In any case, the image looks great, and all the info on it looks fine to me, so it should not be deleted as lacking information on source or copyright status. Thanks for adding the article, it's quite nice. You might be interested in the Wikipedia:Malaysia-related topics notice board, if you like working on Malaysian articles... If you have any questions or problems in contributing to Wikipedia, feel free to ask here on my talk page, or any of the standard locations, like the Wikipedia:Help desk. Thanks again! JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:06, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Image source

You removed "no source" tag from Image:Bertrand Russell.jpg but you have not provided the source information. Could you at least provide the name of the copyright holder? GFDL without copyright notice does not make sense. Thank you. --163.139.215.193 15:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

You are right, I made a mistake with that one. I tried, but was unable to find info on the copyright holder for that image, so I have re-marked it to be deleted, and marked the commons one, too. Thanks for bugging me about this. JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:46, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Reed College page in Arbitration

As a contributor to the Reed College page, you may wish to express a view on the request for Arbitration by User:ironDuke: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#IronDuke_and_Gnetwerker. -- Gnetwerker 23:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! User talk:Ikkyu2/Archive 1

Appreciated. -Ikkyu2 09:42, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

wikipedia namespace questions

I said I knew the wikipedia namespace, so heregoes(without checkin the pages):

1. All naming conventions can be found on subpages of WP:Naming Coventions
2. The variations can probably be found on its discussion page, as is the case with most templates
3. (I don't really know wikipedia stuff outside of wikipedia, and I don't really know much about wikimedia either)
4. Wikipedia:Username

--Urthogie 19:33, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I assume this was in regards to User:JesseW/wikipedia trivia. Good tries; your answers reflect the way things should be, if they were consistent. The actual answers are(I think):

1. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Aircraft/Categories
2. Category:Internal_link_templates (which sadly contains many other things as well, and has no descriptions)
3. Gmane.org, specifically http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.english ; you can search for other wikipedia lists by name at http://gmane.org/find.php
4. You were right; Wikipedia:Username#Deleting_your_user_account (Although it was only recently moved from a seperate page with a less obvious name).

If you want to help, making the proper links and/or redirects to connect the actual pages to where you thought they were would be great... Thanks for playing. JesseW, the juggling janitor 19:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Number 2 I actually got right, because the internal link types are on the template talk for that template.--Urthogie 20:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Indeed; I forgot to look there. You are quite right. Someone should add descriptions to that list... JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

I got number 1 right as well..Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(aircraft)--Urthogie 20:24, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Not exactly. The question was about the naming of categories not of pages... ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:34, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Thats my biggest flaw. Impatience. You got me!--Urthogie 21:31, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

URL for .wdb-to-.csv translator?

Is the .wdb-to-.csv translator mentioned in "User:JesseW/wdb format" available for download?

Thanks for bugging me about that. It is now. I encourage you to ask me any questions you may have about using it; it's still quite rough. JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

WP:PROD

The first time I heard of it was when it was announce on the Village Pump that it was going live. User:Zoe|^(talk) 00:45, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for deletion

You have added context in the case of the request for deletion of the Proto-Ionian theory. I found out that this article was already deleted in 2005. See discussion & log for details. I want to inform you that this request is back with a new reason. 22:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Fun 100

Please read through the article and check Allmusic, Amazon, Google. This band has absolutely no claim to notability. Demos with titles are not albums. It would be insane to congest AfD with this. -- Krash (Talk) 05:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I suppose you are right. I've deleted it. In the future, you might consider using WP:PROD for this sort of thing, though; no need to streach CSD anymore... JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:11, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Re: Speedy log

I knew about Duesentrieb's CatScan, I just continually understimate it. :) Thanks for pointing out that it could do that. So maybe I'll be able to extend the prod tracker to other areas in a week or two.

Yeah, CSD, PROD etc. are less emotional. But every time we have one of these community crises, I feel like taking a break from the Wikipedia: space for a while. And this time is worse because Radiant! of all people left. Most real-life communities don't seem to have perdiodic flare-ups like this, it would be nice if we could clearly identify the root cause and do what we can to limit its recurrence. --Interiot 05:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Glad to point out the powers of CatScan. I'm amazed by it also... Re: flareups; my opinion is a lot of it has to do with our growth - I subscribe to the September that Never Ended theory; we're just getting so many more people, more edits, and so on, and the ratios of serious, sensible people vs those who are not, are getting out of wack, and making the good people go regularly crazy. Also, the impression is spreading that "Wikipedia has lots of power", i.e. that "if we allow one bad action to stand for one second, the world will come and cut off our arms". This makes people tense, and more likely to do supid things. We're a victim of our own success. That's my basic diagnosus. Why do I not leave like Radiant has? Because of the GFDL. It's free content, including (most of) the history. Every time we make one small improvement, it'll be there forever (at least as long as someone wants to keep a copy somewhere). So even if the administration is going gently (or not so gently) crazy, the content is still worth it. Sorry for the rant. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 05:26, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Ranting in out of the way places is probably a good thing. Yeah, some flare-ups seem to be caused by a "we must fix this now" mentality on the part of a small number of admins. On the other hand, the alternative doesn't seem that much better. It seems like important policy issues 1) take a very very long time to take effect (eg. the no fair-use images in templates or userspace thing), and 2) even as slow as it is, important policy-making is sometimes clearly wrong, eg. the no-meta-templates thing where Brion finally clarified the technical issues. And both are probably caused by the Eternal September, which causes a poor signal/noise ratio. Hrm, so I guess I agree with you. So now somebody should create a userbox, "This user thinks the Eternal September has come to Wikipedia, but the GFDL makes it all okay". ;) --Interiot 19:22, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I see no need for userboxes, but I've added that text to my page. I don't really think we're making more bad policy than we ever have. The meta-template one is an aberation, as it's heavily tangled in tehcnical issues - we have more of a chance to get that wrong than usual. (Also, AFAIS, Netaholic has a less than concilatory manner, which doesn't help matters.) Thanks for the discussion. JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:32, 11 February 2006 (UTC)

WP indexing

Thanks for your willingness to help in indexing pages. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "topical index"? is this broader than the Wikipedia namespace? or what?

Right now, I am going through Wikipedia namespace pages, and indexing them. This information could be useful to better organize the Help:Contents and other key pages. In the end, people working on Help contents are thinking of a system like Amazon or Ebay, where a smaller selection of key topics and links are on the help page, with subpages that go into more detail for particular help topics. Right now the help contents page is nearly useless to me, with the only way I find things there is by hitting CTRL+F.

Thusfar, I have started:

1. Sorting the pages at User:Kmf164/Index, using a somewhat complete list of pages taken from the Jan 25 enwiki db dump. I have posted the list at User:Kmf164/WPindex-a, with the list split up alphabetically. There are nearly 14,000 pages (many are redirects).
2. Weeding out all the redirect pages from the list.
3. Sorting valid pages by general topic. I was planning on later organizing these general topics, hierarchically.
4. Also, using the page_counter variable from the page table. I'm not entirely sure how it's calculated in the db or when/if it's reset), but page_counter gives a relative measure of popularity. Any pages on this list, I am bolding on User:Kmf164/Index and noting the page_counter value.

I don't mind others editing these pages in my namespace, or we could move these into Wikipedia:WikiProject Help. Maybe before continuing topic sorting, maybe it would help more to just weed out all the redirect pages from the list of 14,000 pages. If you can help with that, or have something else in mind that you'd like to help with, that's fine with me. Or if I didn't make myself clear in my explanation, please drop me a note. Thanks. -Kmf164 (talk | contribs) 19:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

You're right about the page_is_redirect. That should work great. I've also looked over the Topical index and WikiProject pages. The topic categories you have look good and useful, and could just be updated, as needed. Thanks. -Kmf164 (talk | contribs) 00:58, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

The list of pages is great. I can cross check it with my list (run w/o redirect pages), and determine which ones are most visited, by looking at page/cur_counter. This will be important in making the help pages more useful, by listing just these key pages up front. Then, if someone is interested in a topic area, they can go to a help subpage with a more complete list. Thanks for generating the list. -Kmf164 (talk | contribs) 03:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

...for noticing; yes, he let me know two days ago when the publication date would be. Happy editing! Antandrus (talk) 22:07, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

A new page I created

Jesse: thanks for the barnstar you gave me awhile ago. I was wondering if you would mind having a look at a page i have created, which is currently the subject of a deletion debate -- fuck truck. I think it is a classic case of something that crosses the threshold of being notable but is under attack becayse the topic is a bit risque. I would definitely appreciate your support. Interestingstuffadder 04:41, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I assume you mean Fuck Truck, as the other page has no history... I'll look into it. JesseW, the juggling janitor 04:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the confusion about the page. Thanks for your support. I don't know if you've been following the deletion debate, but it is a doozey. Interestingstuffadder 04:52, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Cur counter

In my db dump, I have the page table which just lists the page names and details, without the actual article text. It has the variable, page_counter. What you used is the table that also includes all the article text, in addition to page details, and has cur_counter. I've looked around to figure out how page_counter (or cur_counter) is actually determined by MediaWiki, but with no luck. I'm curious, how often (if ever) is page_counter reset? or what? All the cur_counters in your listing are 0, and I'm not sure why? If you have any insight on this, it would be appreciated. I know at least, the page_counter variable can be a relative indicator of how often a page is viewed. -Kmf164 (talk | contribs) 01:48, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

Archiving the PROD discussion

I noticed you very diplomatically refrained from archiving my comments when you created the PROD talk page archive. I appreciate it, but it's not necessary - feel free to archive any comment of mine along with the rest of the cruft.  ;)

-ikkyu2 (talk) 06:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment, but I didn't archive the PROD talk page. ;-) Check the history. JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:55, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, you're very diplomatic anyway. I figured since you clean up everything else, you'd probably cleaned that too. Cheers! -ikkyu2 (talk) 07:07, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Perreo picture

Hi! hope you're doing fine. You left me a message regarding the image in the Perreo article. First of all, my apologies for putting an image that doesn't comply with Wikipedia standards. I really didn't noticed the copyrighted tag in the page. Should I delete it or will you do it? Anyway, I'll see if I can find any picture that can be used here. Take care :D Thief12 05:23, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

I've deleted it. Thanks for being understanding with regards to the image. I hope you find a freely licensed one; the easiest way is to take one yourself, if you have any friends who do this kind of dancing... JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:36, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

a note from your friend

Howdy doody, yo. Makaristos 01:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Hidy ho, reed sam... JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:58, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikime

Ya, that was me. How did you even catch that since I had only done a couple of edits on a random article and hadn't created a user page yet? I've been creating accounts at some of the bigger wikis, partly as a preemptive reservation of my user name, and partly because I have been investigating some of the other wikis, seeing how they operate, what sort of growth rate they have, etc. ^BlankVerse 08:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Recognized your name on this list. I understand their desire to require an account to view pages, but it's just going to fill their user list with fake accounts (like the two that I've already created that start with fakename). JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Userbox policy

Thanks for your note. I've answered on the voting page. What I'm pissed off about is that when I went to my userpage earlier today I found that three userboxes had simply disappeared, quite mysteriously from my point of view. It took me some time to work out what had happened: that action is being taken to stop the use of templates for userboxes that express political, religious, philosophical, etc., viewpoints. I realise that I can put up own symbols or whatever if I want to, but that's not so convenient, and besides I'm riled that the appearance of my userpage was altered without my knowledge. Anyway, see my comment, and thanks again for taking the trouble to contact me. I hope you understand why I think this issue has, at the least, been poorly handled. Metamagician3000 10:11, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Not happy with your edit of my userbox

Why did you edit my userboxes? You edit looks terrible and it is not clear why you did it. Why can't I express the fact that I am atheist with a userbox? It is like you want to censor my beliefs. - Shiftchange 13:12, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for asking about that edit I made to your userpage. Actually, I was not modifying the atheism template at all, see the diff; I was fixing the link to the deleted template User EFF; the atheism one had been deleted both before and after I edited. I've now substituted its code in as well. You certainly can express the fact that you are an atheist or anything else, with a userbox or in any other manner - on your userpage. The problem was that short userbox names, like {{User No Smoking}} are not acutally on your user page (although they look that way); they are actually in the Template namespace, where, like everyone on Wikipedia other than userpages, content ought to be reflective of, and acceptable to, everyone. It's not your expressions that are or were the problem, but the semi-technical issue that had expressions of personal opinion stored and cataloged in space that is intended and expected to be used for planning and discussing the encyclopedia. For a longer version of this, feel free to look here. Hope this explains things better, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:21, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

My RFA

Thank you for supporting me in my successful RFA. The admin tools will definitely be useful for dealing with vandalism. Needless to say, if you notice me doing something not quite right or have questions about any of my actions, please drop me a note on my talk page. Thanks. -Kmf164 (talk | contribs) 15:44, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

My user page

THANK YOU SO MUCH for cleaning up my userpage. I tried and failed horribly. YOU RULE! Madangry 01:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

My userpage :(

I saw that you have changed my userpage. :( Before my userpage was very nice, all the code for my userboxes fitted on only one line. Now it is replaced with huge amounts of code that makes my userpage look like a mess when I edit it. :( -- Frap 14:40, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for asking about that edit I made to your userpage. That code you now see was always there, it was merely hidden. I was fixing the link to the deleted template that you linked to on your userpage. The problem was that short userbox names, like {{User No Smoking}} are not acutally on your user page (although they look that way); they are actually in the Template namespace, where, like everything on Wikipedia other than userpages, content ought to be reflective of, and acceptable to, everyone. It's not your expressions that are or were the problem, but the semi-technical issue that had expressions of personal opinion stored and cataloged in space that is intended and expected to be used for planning and discussing the encyclopedia. For a longer version of this, feel free to look here. Hope this explains things better, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia! JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:21, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Hey Thanks for getting those userboxes back on my page!--Hibernian 17:09, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

You're welcome. JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:50, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Peripheral_ERA

Did some digging. While there's no online source, the article says that this book, Baseball Prospectus 2004, is the source. It may have been hand-typed in, straight from, which still makes it copyvio. Hope this helps.--み使い Mitsukai 05:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

javascript assisted userbox substitution

on several occasions now i have seen people editing my userpage with the intent of replacing deleted userboxes. this is perfectly fine; i think that these userboxes should be replaced. however, on two occasions, one of them being your edit, this has been "javascript assisted." this program evidently causes my userboxes to become organized in such a manner that the userboxes are no longer aligned on the right side of the page; instead, some of them are transferred to the middle of the page. this is not how i want the page to look, and i am therefore forced to revert the changes. is there any way this can be avoided? thanks. Niffweed17 06:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I think I fixed the problem. The code that was being subst'ed in was slightly broken. Thanks for asking. If you'd like to help with this, we can certainly use the help. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:28, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

sorry, i fear i would be of no use because i know practically zero about javascript. at the moment my userboxes are aligned correctly, but as of yet the program has not yet been applied to my userpage; so its very difficult to determine from my userpage specifically if this error is still present. thanks for responding quickly to this matter. Niffweed17 18:46, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxen

Thanks for fixing up some of my userboxes! - nathanrdotcom ^{(Talk • Contribs)} 07:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:32, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the substitution trooper support box. I apreciate it. TomStar81 09:03, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Your help with the Userbox project

Thanks a lot for your extensive help with the userbox project. I'll give you an appropriate award when I get around to it. :D That said, I see you've gotten a few comments above about the messy HTML code; you may be interested to know that I'm working on regex that will automatically convert the raw HTML into {{userbox}}, like the code below. I think it's somewhat easier to understand; although the parameter names could be more informative, this can be semi-automatically adjusted later if need be. :)

{{userbox
  |id=<span style="color:#FFF;">foo</span>
  |id-s=20
  |id-c=#000
  |info=''foo bar''
  |info-c=#FFF
  |info-s=12
  |border-c=#000
  |border-s=2
}}

foo

foo bar

// Pathoschild (_admin / ^talk) 09:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

That looks nice; I hope you use it when you add some more ones to the list. I've just been deleting a few of the unused ones, per my statement on the proposed policy page; one thing I have not touched is removing the ones I'm deleting from the list(s). As the genius who came up with this excellent comproimise policy, could you set an example of how to handle this? :-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

The regex isn't yet completed and is in the perl form; I'll enlist the help of a few other users to convert it to the .NET regex (which I think the AutoWikiBrowser uses) and the Javascript regex (which could be compiled as a javascript similar to the one you're using). Instructions and code will be provided when these are completed, which should hopefully be sometime within the week. (On a note related to my original comment, I've proposed a simplified syntax for {{userbox}} at Template talk:Userbox#Standardisation proposal.) // Pathoschild (_admin / ^talk) 10:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

---

Hi, could you add Template:User not independent Kosovo to your javascript assisted userbox substitution project? I can give you the source for the now deleted userbox. Nikola 13:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Nikola 09:34, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

What's happening to userboxes?

Thanks for replacing my userbox...but what's happening, it's the second one? Where are the user boxes going?

JessW replaced a userbox on my page...

[[5]]

Thanks! JamieJones ^talk 16:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes

Thanks for your effort,l but all my boxes disappeared. I will have to revert. --Nelson Ricardo 18:18, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar

He, thanks for the barnstar. It kind of made me blush. I am not used to getting such "medals". :) --David Göthberg 00:58, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

user No Smoking

You say you have substituted a "deleted userbox", but Template: user No Smoking is still there. Is it going to be deleted?

I can see the point about userboxes not relevant to Wikipedia. The only reason I have userboxes is because I looked through the list in an idle moment one day and put any ones that interested me onto my page. If there wasn't already a userbox, e.g. the "No smoking" one, I wouldn't have created one on my page in the way you have with your script, even if I do hate smoking.

Surely the first step in removing these boxes is to delete them from the list at Wikipedia:Userboxes so that new people are unlikely to use them. As I write, "No smoking" is still listed on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Beliefs. It's annoying to have boxes altered in this way when they are listed as if they are officially approved ones. And doesn't it make your job a bit like Sisyphus rolling his stone or painting the Forth Bridge if more people add the userboxes as you are removing them? JRawle 17:02, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Ta bu shi da yu 2

Hi, I noticed your message of support to Ta on his talk page. I'd encourage your comments at his RfC. Thanks, JYolkowski // talk 22:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Request Advice on Rankism Article

Hi, JesseW - in response to your comments on the Rankism article, I started to add to the references. However, I have a lot of references, and it's really time-consuming for me to type these up in Wikipedia template format. Of greater worry is that I will do all that work, and some other Wikipedian with a grudge will just come and revert it. How kosher would it be to work with the people associated with the main web site to create a bibliography there (under their control) and just link to that under references?

Also, it occured to me that I could collect some syllabi where Somebodies & Nobodies has been used as coursework. A quick web search only shows recent courses, and such syllabi are probably short-lived on the web. How should that be referenced on Wikipedia?

Thanks in advance for your help. --Pansophia 00:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome to put the material elsewhere first, and merely link to it in the article; if it's a lot more work to translate it into Wikipedia form do that after other editors have had a chance to review it, and state any concerns, suggestions, or objections they may have. I'm not sure of a good way to verifiably reference course sylabi if they were not cached by the Internet Archive. But you might try there. JesseW, the juggling janitor 01:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll see about getting the bibliography page. Good idea about trying to find the syllabi on the Internet Archive. I'm sure some were on the web at one time, though I don't know if there's a way to find the urls. Several are on the web now. --Pansophia 05:01, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Car model Userbox changes

As creator of the Audi Userbox, I don't at all mind your recent change to the word "edits articles.." from the previous wording. However, I hope the other userboxes on the auto-themed page receive the same treatment, which, again, I do think makes sense. Several others are "user is a fan" boxes. So you know where I'm coming from, I've since become an opponent of frivilous Userboxes and actually don't even put this one on my User page anymore. Nhprman ^UserLists 04:04, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

please be civil

Please be civil. The last thing we need is another eruption of centrist egoism. ... aa:talk 07:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I thought that I was, but apparently SPUI disagreed. What I was trying to find a way to express was my view that the page SPUI was referring to was a classic example of reducio ad absurdum argument, or trolling. Read strictly, my comment was a compliment - "SPUI, you have once again successflly demonstrated your great skill in your chosen profession." But it was meant to suggest that what he had been doing by creating the template was trolling, and that is sometimes viewed as a personal attack, so I have no problem with you removing it. I assume that the mere description of the page he links to is probably quite sufficient to make it clear the validity of his question. JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:10, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

conditional support

Check out my "Conditional Support" entry on the userbox poll page. I'm curious to see what you think.    GUÐSÞEGN   – UTEX – 19:59, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

thank you

thank you for the userbox substitution! Sct72 04:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

WTF

My responce to what? Richardkselby 01:53, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

ps. I look forward to your responce.

I didn't like this part, "'Editing interest' would allow templates that specify an interest in US politics, for example, but not membership or support of a particular party. For example, 'user Christian theology' but not 'user Christian believer', 'user abortion articles' but not 'pro-life', or 'scientology article editor' but not pro- or anti-. " I want to say that I'm a christian with the use of userboxes without anyone saying that I cannot. Freedom of speech that's what it's all about. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Richardkselby (talk • contribs) 02:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

And you would be able to according to this proposal. You would simply need to code the box yourself, as your status as a Christian, or my status as a male person, is not directly helpful to our work in improving this encyclopedia. In any case, thanks for the reply. JesseW, the juggling janitor 02:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Tawkerbot2's edit summaries

The auto revert of the addition of wikilinks was a bug, it was a new filter set that didn't exactly turn out. As for edit summaries, I'm in a bit of a debate, I've had some users request that it doesn't say what its for because it might help vandals evade the filters. We've taken tawkerbot2 down for a bit pending some bug fixes and it will be back up soon. I hope you find it useful, auto warnings are next! :) -- Tawker 21:14, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

We have made it less specific for the above reasons though the actual reason is on a password protected status screen which we are monitoring while the bots running (until we've proven it at least) -- Tawker 04:15, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

---

I have minimized User:Tawkerbot2's edit summaries, and rewritten its vandal filters. Currently its running 100% correct. Thanks for your advice, happy editing! joshbuddy^talk 18:27, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

small monobook question

I see you wrote AddLink function, so maybe you can enlighten me on this quickie. I have this code

addOnloadHook(function () {
addLink('p-personal', '/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&user=Drini', 'logs', 'pe-logs', 'My logs', '', 'pt-mycontris');
});

so I get a "logs" link at the top of the page before "my contributions". The question is, can I use AddLink to change the text of the predefined links? For instance, changing "my contributions" to "Contribs" (for making it shorter). And if AddLink can't help here, what should I look for? What about changing the url target? (for linking to a 500 version of my contribs instead of 50) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 21:58, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

hm. Let me try out various bits... JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

I've written up a bit on Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Techniques#Altering_existing_interface_links; if that doesn't solve your problem, please let me know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 00:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot! Tried, worked!. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 00:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!!

For fixing my userboxes.

RE: Yet another image warning

Image:JerryCantrell.jpg has no source. If you continue to upload such unsourced images, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. JesseW, the juggling janitor 11:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

• Threatening people is not nice (EVER). Espesially when they are productive, helpful and never-vandalizing users. --UVnet 11:38, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Great work on fixing up the info on that image. I do applogize for the brusque tone of my comment; that was uncalled for. You do have a large number of image warnings on your talk page, with no easily visible responses to them; that was why I mentioned blocking. In any case, good work, thanks, and it is appreciated. JesseW, the juggling janitor 11:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Fair use templates

Hi, since {{fairuse}} is deprecated, we shouldn't ever use it. For instance, in the case of Image:Oasis.gif, {{webcomicpanel}} is appropriate (Category:Non-free image copyright tags makes a convenient index). Stan 16:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Bosanska Dubica/trg

You asked for more information on the photo Image:Trg-Dubica.jpg. I gave the website: http://kozarskadubica.net which is not fully valuable for someone not speaking Bosnian. The actual URL is http://kozarskadubica.rs.sr/dubicaslike/ which opens up several photos. The website did not put out who took the picture since it is supposed to be a community website. Hopefully this is adequate, if not I will be in Europe (Germany + Bosnia) this summer and can take the picture myself.

Thanks

Thanks for the Barnstar. Feel free to suggest any pictures that I should consider taking, provided that it is within easy access of where I am right now. Allentchang 02:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Blanking AfD pages

Please stop doing this. Articles for Deletion pages are not supposed to be blanked after they're completed. Fagstein 18:24, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

• Please see Wikipedia:Guide_to_deletion#Closure: "The discussion is preserved for future reference in accordance with the deletion process (both for consultation as non-binding precedent and for determining when a previously deleted article has been re-created)." Old Articles for Deletion discussions should not be blanked. Thank you. Fagstein 09:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

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Thank you for the Barnstar

Thanks JesseW, I am very thankful to you for awarding a beautiful and first Barnstar to me. It will help me to keep up the enthusiasm towards the work. Regards, Shyam ^(T/C) 07:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Delighted to do it. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:39, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

User photo

I saw the deletion procedure too late: can you undelete Image:Ggonnell.User Photo.jpg? I will tag it as {{GFDL-Self}}. Thx --Ggonnell 23:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, I didn't know that photos can't be undeleted... I upload it again under CC-BY-SA. Bye. --Ggonnell 11:45, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Glad we could get it straightened out. Thanks for being understanding. JesseW, the juggling janitor 11:50, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

re: Reversion on Hamilton (district)

I realized my mistake after reverting. I was in the process of restoring your edit, but you beat me to it :) —Wayward ^Talk 00:39, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Vikingcarena.jpg - WTF ??

User_talk:Sheldonc

I'm very damn sure I already tagged that image that your nice bot automatically jettisoned from Viking, Alberta

I dealt with this already! I took the picture, now put it back. Thank you. --Sheldonc 08:24, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to work on getting it back. The reason it was deleted is that you never mentioned the critical fact that you took the picture making you the copyright holder. Without knowing that, we had no idea where the image came from, so while it was helpful that you added the {{No rights reserved}} template, we had no way to know wheather you added it because you got the image off google somewhere(as happens literally hundreds of times every month) or, as is apprently the case, you were the copyright holder and were directly licensing the image with no rights reserved. And it was not deleted or tagged by a bot; the only thing the bot did was the mannual work of removing it from the article, after a humain being tagged it, and then, after the bot removed it from the article, another human being took the time to delete it, and is now taking the time to help you find a copy and get it back. Due to technical issues, I can't just pull a copy of the image off the wikimedia servers. I tried finding it on one of the mirrors, via a google search, but I was not able to find it. If you still have a copy, it would be great if you could re-upload it. Otherwise, I may be able to get a copy from someone with a old copy of the image database. In any case, thanks for clarifying that you took the picture. JesseW, the juggling janitor 10:18, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation and effort. I have the picture somewhere, I'll reupload it if I find it. There has to be a better way though - once I added the tag there was nothing informing me that the image continued to not meet requirements :( I thought by tagging the image, it would be sort of implied that it was my work. Anything other than that would be fraud. Oh well, that's life. --Sheldonc 22:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Helpme

Thanks for responding. I have two questions:

1. Is it kosher to delete discussions on one's own talk page, or is it required to archive?
2. I tried to join a WikiProject, but it didn't recognize me as logged in anymore. And it couldn't find my username when I tried to login. Does WikiMeta (or WikiMedia or whatever it's called) have a different membership than Wikipedia? If so, why? I don't have the same history or userpage or anything over there. But isn't the point of WikiProjects that they concern Wikipedia entries? I wonder what the point of joining a WikiProject is if you're a totally different user over there as over here...?

Thanks! --Hyphen5 12:49, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to ask someone else from who watches the {{helpme}} tags to answer, I'm not sure how to answer at the moment. JesseW, the juggling janitor 12:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

For the first see WP:TALK, generally people leave the discussion on there talk page so they can be seen, removing them can be seen as "trying to hide something", I doubt anyone would complain if you removed older discussions, but most people as you say archive them. Deleting admin warning type messages, particularly very shortly after receiving them, is considered bad form or even vandalism. For the second the sign ons between the various wikimedia projects like meta or commons are different, you have to register an account on each one, if you primarily use en wikipedia you could make your user page on the others just a redirect to your en page. eg. #redirect [[en:User_talk:Pgk]] is what I have on meta. --pgk^(talk) 13:10, 25 March 2006 (UTC)