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= May 8 =
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== Patient 18 ==
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Hi everyone, I hope that all of you are fine. Friends, I saw an interview on YouTube with a young man who is at a mental hospital in California (it was in 1961) and it's a famous interview. He has schizophrenia, and talks about his dreams of becoming a piano teacher.
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My question is as follows, is his 1961 diagnosis still a criteria for commitment to a psychiatric facility? Have the laws/criteria changed?
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Thank you and excuse ignorance, as I'm no professional on any of these fields. [[User:CoryGlee|CoryGlee]] ([[User talk:CoryGlee|talk]]) 11:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
=July 29=


:The laws and their interpretations differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but I think that the general principle is that [[involuntary commitment]] to a [[psychiatric hospital]] requires a determination that the patient is mentally incapable of taking care of themself or [[Obligatory Dangerousness Criterion|is a danger to themself or others]]. Many (perhaps most) people who are diagnosed with schizophrenia can nevertheless take care of their own affairs and present no danger to others. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 20:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
== solar flares ==


== How short could the beta-decay half-life of a nuclide be? ==
I guess solar flares don't create a sound/sound waves (i.e. no medium), is that correct?
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:Correct. While there would certainly be vibrations within the sun itself, which you could call sound if you wanted to, no sound eminates from the sun, in the form of solar flares or otherwise. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] 00:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Even the most neutron-rich nuclides like <sup>19</sup>B has a half-life of >1 ms. Theoretically speaking, could a nuclide's beta-decay half-life reach <1 ms? [[User:Nucleus hydro elemon|Nucleus hydro elemon]] ([[User talk:Nucleus hydro elemon|talk]]) 11:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
:Considering that a absolute vacuum does not exist, not even in deep space, there could in theory be sound. An affected particle is bound to bump into another one at some point. But the sound would be extremely faint (negligible, I suppose). That is, if one can call that sound. Sound is a wave, which is more than just moving particles, and a wave needs enough density. At which density would sound become possible then? [[User:DirkvdM|DirkvdM]] 08:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:It can, but extremally neutron rich nuclei tend to decay by emitting neutrons, which makes beta decay difficult to observe. [[User:Ruslik0|Ruslik]]_[[User Talk:Ruslik0|<span style="color:red">Zero</span>]] 12:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
::For any combination of density and temperature, different amplitudes and frequencies would have different thresholds of detectability. That threshold would be wherever the sonic vibrations become detectable over random motions (though for sufficiently low densities, it would always be beyond our ability to detect). Where that threshold is, is dependent on our technology. There is probably also a fundamental threshold based on the random motions (I'm deliberately avoiding the word "noise" due to the confusion it would create). Now, how to actually calculate either the fundamental threshold or the tech-dependent one, I have absolutely no idea. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] 10:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::Many nuclides are known with beta decay half lives under a millisecond. [[Thulium]]-180, to pick one example, decays 100% by beta- decay, and has a half life of 0.3 ms. If you want to explore the landscape, the [[table of nuclides]] here [https://www-nds.iaea.org/relnsd/vcharthtml/VChartHTML.html] is a good place to start. Anything in light blue decays primarily by beta- decay, and the farther you get from the central "valley of stability" the shorter the half lives tend to become. [[User:PianoDan|PianoDan]] ([[User talk:PianoDan|talk]]) 04:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Shock waves exist in space and they are detectable. See [[Bow Shock]].
:::For a number of nuclides, though – including <sup>180</sup>Tm – the half-life has not been measured directly and only lower bounds have been reported. But there's nothing in theory that prevents beta decay with a half-life shorter than 1 millisecond, aside from competition from other decay modes. The shortest I've seen in {{tl|NUBASE2020}} is a half-life of {{val|1.5|0.5|u=ms}} for <sup>35</sup>Na, though that is only 1<math>\sigma</math> from the 1-ms boundary. <sup>[[User:ComplexRational|'''<span style="color:#0039a6">Complex</span>''']]</sup>/<sub>[[User talk:ComplexRational|'''<span style="color:#000000">Rational</span>''']]</sub> 15:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 9 =
:You might check these links:
:* http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/space-audio/
:* http://soi.stanford.edu/results/sounds.html
:* http://quake.stanford.edu/~sasha/SOUNDS/sounds.html
:[[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 12:51, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::My fav solar site http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime/ [[User:Vespine|Vespine]] 01:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


== LED lighting dimmer switch ==
== Paraphilias ==


Can you tell me about this? Does it it exist yet?
How many people have [[paraphilias]]? [[User:A.Z.|A.Z.]] 02:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


I now have parrot bird with red eyes and if you turn the light on from dark to light it drops him on his back. So I can't use LED bulbs in his room. Because previously I used a dimmer to bring light up gradually. Can you tell me? Thank you. Iqbal. [[Special:Contributions/146.200.107.107|146.200.107.107]] ([[User talk:146.200.107.107|talk]]) 02:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:You guys don't know? I asked this on the article talk page as well, but no one replied. I don't want the exact number, just an approximation would be fine. [[User:A.Z.|A.Z.]] 18:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. They exist. I just went to the web site of my local hardware store, searched for "led dimmer switch" and found several. [[User:HiLo48|HiLo48]] ([[User talk:HiLo48|talk]]) 02:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:There are also [https://www.homedepot.com/b/Lighting-Light-Bulbs-LED-Light-Bulbs/Dimmable/N-5yc1vZbm79Z1z0u4xv dimmable LED light bulbs] that can be used with most types of dimmer.<sup>[https://integral-led.com/en/content/dimmable-and-non-dimmable-led-lamps]</sup> &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 06:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:There are also led light bars that can be programmed for a gradually changing brightness and colour to simulate sunrise and sunset. Some even support simulating random clouds passing in front of the sun and the occasional thunderstorm with lightning. Aquarium lights tend to have such features. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 12:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
:Note that dimmable LEDs don't dim the same way incandescents do.
:When incandescents dim, a lower level of power continues to be continuously conducted through the filament. The lower power produces less light.
:LEDs don't really have variable brightness in response to different levels of power the same way incandescents do. Instead, they're dimmed by flickering them on and off at an extremely high frequency. The frequency is too high for our eyes/brains to perceive the flickering; but since they're not on all the time, less total light is emitted.
:In order to respond to a decrease in power this way, the LED bulb needs to have specialized hardware in its base. So you'll have to buy special "dimmable" LED bulbs. I've had very mixed experiences with these, fwiw, and some that are nominally dimmable don't dim well or at all. Others produce extremely unpleasant light at lower levels. -- [[User:Avocado|Avocado]] ([[User talk:Avocado|talk]]) 20:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
::Specifically, incandescent lights (is there anyone still using those? They've been banned in the EU for over a decade) can be dimmed by reducing the root-mean-square voltage over the filament. This lowers the light output, makes it redder and lowers the efficiency. Leds have constant colour and the brightness is controlled by electronically controlling the average current. Pulse-width modulation appears to be the simplest efficient way to control the average current. Dimmable led lights have some electronics that take the input voltage as a cue to change pulse width. Flicker is invisible to humans, but may appear when there's some beating with another periodic process of similar frequency (spinning things, cameras). A simple low-pass filter would eliminate the flicker. [[User:PiusImpavidus|PiusImpavidus]] ([[User talk:PiusImpavidus|talk]]) 07:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Yeah, you can still buy incandescents in the US. They keep partially walking back the bans. And they're still allowed for specialty purposes (like heat lamps and candelabras), and maybe at low wattages? I've also recently seen incandescent bulbs with purportedly higher efficiency than old ones being sold in places -- I'd be unsurprised if our regulations are weak. And maybe leftover inventory is still allowed to be sold? Small retailers I think get them under the table from ... somewhere. If you search a major hardware store's site, you'll find a selection still for sale. [[Phase-out of incandescent light bulbs#United_States|Here's what]] [[United States lighting energy policy|we've got]] on the topic. -- [[User:Avocado|Avocado]] ([[User talk:Avocado|talk]]) 13:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


:The [[flicker fusion threshold]] of birds is much higher than humans, up to 140 Hz (see [https://doi.org/10.1242/jeb.209031 this article]). So a dimmed LED light that looks merely dim to us may appear to be flickering to a bird. I can imagine that that might be as unpleasant to a bird as a flickering light is to humans. Maybe some LEDs have a [[Phosphorescence|phosphorescent]] coating that absorbs and reemits the light after a delay, thus temporally buffering the light output, which might settle the parrot. Otherwise perhaps it is better to dull the light using a translucent screen or by reflecting the light off a surface. [[User:Jmchutchinson|JMCHutchinson]] ([[User talk:Jmchutchinson|talk]]) 11:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:: One could argue that everyone probably has paraphilic tendencies somewhere deep in their psyche. They may be mild and we may never explore them, but they are there all the same. However, there is a more formal, clinical definition of paraphilia, and if you wish to use that as your basis, then, "It is estimated that there are 15 to 40 million Americans with paraphiliac tendencies in one fashion or another" according to [[Wikibooks]] [http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Abnormal_Sexual_Psychology/Introduction]. Assuming this is correct and that Americans are no more kinky than anyone else, then we could estimate 5% to 14% of the population have paraphilias. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 22:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::Yeah, even as a human (hello, fellow humans!), I find dimmed LEDs to produce a very unpleasant light. I wonder if we can detect the flickering subconsciously even if we consciously can't? There's a theory that we can with fluorescents (which flicker even at full brightness), causing a bit of dysphoria in flourescent-lit spaces. -- [[User:Avocado|Avocado]] ([[User talk:Avocado|talk]]) 13:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I have noticed that I can sometimes see flicker with [[peripheral vision]] that I can't when looking directly: ''aaand'' I see this is mentioned in the article. [[Flicker fusion threshold]] may also be of interest. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/188.220.175.176|188.220.175.176]] ([[User talk:188.220.175.176|talk]]) 14:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)


== Ambivert vs. omnivert ==
== IS there something such milk allergy ==


Is there a difference between [[ambivert]] and omnivert, or are these the same? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:24BD:2FE2:B975:68AE|2601:646:8082:BA0:24BD:2FE2:B975:68AE]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:24BD:2FE2:B975:68AE|talk]]) 06:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
some freind of mine asked me that question
:*{{cite web |last1=Saucedo |first1=Kayla |title='''Ambivert Vs. Omnivert''' |url=https://www.simplypsychology.org/ambivert-vs-omnivert.html |website=simplypsychology.org |publisher=Simply Scholar Ltd. |date=29 January 2024}} --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 16:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
he told me that whenever he drinks milk, eat yougurt, cheese ...
::OK, thanks! So, an ambivert is someone who's near the middle of the scale all the time, whereas an omnivert is someone who goes from full extrovert to full introvert and everything in between? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450|2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450|talk]]) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
he feels sick and next think he does is throw out ??????
:Some researchers have questioned the [[validity (statistics)|validity]] of personality tests.<sup>[https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1947-00502-001][https://openurl.ebsco.com/EPDB%3Agcd%3A12%3A14647884/detailv2?sid=ebsco%3Aplink%3Ascholar&id=ebsco%3Agcd%3A6258913][https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1744-6570.2007.00089.x]</sup> I doubt that the validity of the specific labels ''ambivert'' and ''omnivert'' has been seriously studied; they may be pure pop-psych products. Also, even when valid, it can be questioned whether all this labeling isn't more harmful than beneficial.<sup>[https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-life/201809/against-personality-and-mental-health-labels]</sup> &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 08:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
could anyone help me please in giving him an answer ?
::I hope you're not also questioning the validity of the labels [[Extroversion and introversion|extrovert and introvert]], are you??? And if these are valid terms (which they are), then we also need a term for someone who's in the middle of the scale! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7|2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7|talk]]) 23:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:[[Milk allergy]]. Your friend should also consult a doctor, as Wikipedia can give neither medical advice nor a medical diagnosis. As a bit of common sense, your friend should stop consuming anything that makes him sick immediately. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] 06:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Do we also need a term to label people who are halfway between introvert and omnivert? One problem with these personality tests is that they do not depend on a person's actual behaviour, but on their self-reported interpretation of their self-imagined behaviour in hypothetical, vaguely described situations. Validity as a personality label requires IMO consistent reproducibility over time, not of such self-reports, but of <u>actual behaviour</u> in a context of <u>actual situations</u>. I don't expect this stuff will be able to hold itself up well against the [[scientific method]]. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 06:34, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Did you not read any part of this section other than your own comments??? First of all, as already explained above, the definition of omnivert is '''not''' that of someone occupying a certain position on the scale, but someone who fluctuates between extroversion and introversion, and hence there can be '''no''' "halfway" between omnivert and anything else! And as for the others, yes we '''do''' need specific terms for the far ends of the scale and also for the middle -- this is standard for any property which exists along a continuum! Also, I've personally taken both the ocean test '''and''' the MBTI test, and I can tell you, the situations described in the current versions are quite specific and mostly applicable to real life (at the very least, with the disclaimer that I'm one of the most pronounced introverts ever, I had '''no''' problems with the questions being "vague" or not applicable to me personally), so your criticism of these tests (at least in their current versions) is completely misplaced! And, as far as your demands for observation of "'''actual behaviour'''" (your emphasis, not mine), this would require a [[1984|Big Brother]]-style system of constant and pervasive surveillance of your test subjects, which is completely impractical, highly illegal and unethical, and would itself introduce bias into your observations should your test subjects become aware of it (due to them modifying their own behavior to conform to perceived social norms out of fear of judgment) -- so, the stuff you propose wouldn't be able to hold itself up against the scientific method either (not to mention that it would most likely be disallowed on legal and ethical grounds)! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:C178:97BE:AF93:9928|2601:646:8082:BA0:C178:97BE:AF93:9928]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:C178:97BE:AF93:9928|talk]]) 09:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::''You yourself'' wrote, "we also need a term for someone who's in the middle of the scale", i.e., between "the labels extrovert and introvert". This is what the term ''ambivert'' purports to signify. I responded to the claim of this need, wondering why there should be a need to label the extremes and one point in the middle, but not other points on the scale? &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 20:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Because then all of the other points on the scale can be visualized and described in relation to these 3 points -- whereas if only the two extremes were labeled, then it would not adequately describe those who are close to the middle! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D|2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D|talk]]) 11:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Not if they agree to it first, IP-hopper. As to this "omnivert" notion, it could be called "situational". Many people are more comfortable in certain settings than in other settings. That's "normal". ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 14:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::Maybe if they give '''fully''' [[informed consent]] it might be legal, but then you run into the other problem I mentioned (which you conveniently ignored) -- if they know they're being watched, they won't act like their normal selves (and the more you watch them, the more they'll put their guard up), so you '''won't''' see their "'''actual behaviour'''" in "'''actual situations'''", and you'll get skewed results! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:28E6:4E7D:4BB4:DD49|2601:646:8082:BA0:28E6:4E7D:4BB4:DD49]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:28E6:4E7D:4BB4:DD49|talk]]) 20:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::::That would be tragic. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 23:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::::That is just how people work -- and that is the reason why self-reporting of actual behavior is the best you can get in terms of data! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:692F:1147:32D5:BCAA|2601:646:8082:BA0:692F:1147:32D5:BCAA]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:692F:1147:32D5:BCAA|talk]]) 01:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::[[Cultural anthropologist]]s study actual behaviour. They don't go around handing out questionnaires. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 07:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::This is in the realm of [[psychology]], though, not anthropology (cultural or otherwise) -- which brings up yet a '''third''' problem with your proposed methodology, that merely observing the behavior of your test subjects will '''not''' reveal what's going on inside their head at the time, and thereby also give you inaccurate results! (For example, an introvert like me might be forced against his/her will to attend an office party and even to mingle with other people thereat (and even to feign cheerfulness while doing so), which your methodology will register as extroverted behavior and will simply not see how miserable it makes him/her -- or, just to cover both sides, an extrovert might be forced to spend time working or studying alone, which your methodology will register as introverted behavior and not see how much he/she hates it!) And you still haven't answered how you would counter the [[observer effect]] (which, in this scenario, would manifest itself on a very macroscopic scale due to the fact that, as I already said, many people simply won't act like their own natural selves when they know they're being watched all the time)! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D|2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D|talk]]) 11:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::And also, I see a '''fourth''' problem with this kind of methodology, and that has to do with [[sample selection bias]] -- introverts are far less likely to volunteer for an experiment in which their actual behavior would be monitored, especially if this includes being monitored inside their own homes, and the more introverted a person is the more likely he/she would refuse to take part in such an experiment (as an introvert from the deepest end of the scale, I personally know I would refuse without thinking twice), so you'll get a sample which is skewed toward extroversion, and that would also give you inaccurate or incomplete results! (This, indeed, is one area in which the current methodology of anonymous self-reported personality tests with hypothetical questions about various social situations is superior to any other suggested here -- there is something inherently reassuring about knowing that only me and the machine see the actual personal responses, especially for an introvert like me -- and this makes it better in terms of reducing sample bias than even self-reporting of actual behavior, because the latter cannot easily be reduced to a machine-processable series of multiple-choice questions and would require short-answer questions to be interpreted by a human psychologist, and knowing that an actual human sees your individual responses '''and''' your identifying data is much harder to swallow, especially given that being judged by a psychologist might (sometimes) have real-world consequences!) [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:2D37:9C1D:9DB2:251E|2601:646:8082:BA0:2D37:9C1D:9DB2:251E]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:2D37:9C1D:9DB2:251E|talk]]) 13:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 10 =
::Yep. It might also be a psychological effect, vomiting upon eating certain foods due to some mental reason isn't totally unheard of. However, unless he's being forced to eat it (peer pressure or such), I doubt it's that. In the mean time, try having soy milk instead --<big>[[User talk:L|L]]</big><sup><small>[[User:L|i]][[Special:Emailuser/L|e!]]</small></sup> 07:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


== Insect repellent ==
It might actually be [[lactose intolerance]]. But yes, do tell him to see a doctor. [[User:Recurring dreams|Recurring dreams]] 12:05, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Do all [[pyrethrin]] [[Pyrethroids|analogs]] have broad-spectrum [[insect repellent]] properties in less-than-lethal concentrations? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450|2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450|talk]]) 01:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:Well, myself and some of my family have minor lactose intolerance (in large doses), but I've never heard of lactose intolerance causing vomiting. It tends to have... 'other ways' of showing itself -_<big>[[User talk:L|L]]</big><sup><small>[[User:L|i]][[Special:Emailuser/L|e!]]</small></sup> 12:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:It [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8465213/ says here] that "Before the emergence of resistance, an early hut trial in The Gambia concluded that permethrin was the most repellent pyrethroid, followed by λ-cyhalothrin, deltamethrin, and lastly cypermethrin". This suggests that there must be some in the list of 29 examples in the [[pyrethroid]] article that are much worse repellents. I would guess that the stronger the odor, the better the repellent effect. <span style="font-family: Cambria;"> [[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 08:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
:Pyrethroids were designed to kill insects and are used, for example, to control malaria-carrying mosquitoes by treating [[bed-nets]]. In this and other agricultural applications, repellence is an unwanted property particularly if the non-lethal effect allows insect populations to build up [[Pesticide resistance|resistance]]. There are, of course, compounds designed to act only as insect repellents, of which the best known are probably [[DEET]] and [[citronellal]]. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 10:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
::Thanks! So, not all of them, but many of the common ones -- which is great for me (they're painting my front door today, so I have to enforce a no-fly zone outside it :-( ) And yes, last time I've personally witnessed the repellent effect of 200 ppm [[deltamethrin]] against ''Papilio multicaudata'' (or maybe it was a large ''P. rutulus'', but my money is on the former) and ''P. eurymedon'', as well as multiple [[Apocrita]] species! (The repellent effect, indeed, is what I'm looking for here -- I don't care if the bugs survive or die, I just don't want them to fly into the house or get anywhere near me!) [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:59E2:271:87C3:F3E|2601:646:8082:BA0:59E2:271:87C3:F3E]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:59E2:271:87C3:F3E|talk]]) 14:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
::Also, one of the two cans I used today had a mixture of [[prallethrin]] and [[cyfluthrin]] which was specifically formulated as an insect repellent, so we can add these two to the list as well -- although, from personal observation, their repellent effect was actually '''less''' than that of deltamethrin! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7|2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7|talk]]) 00:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)


== computer INTELLIGINCE how far ? ==


= May 12 =
Is it possible that a computer connected to 2 chambers ,can transfer objects in between by moving the particles one at the time
if yes !!!!
then what about humans or the DNA will cause a problem ???
:In theory, existing nanoassembly procedures could work like this, but very slowly and only to ''very very'' small things. Such procedures have never been developed for large things, in part because the process is quite time consuming. Even if ever possible on large objects, the problem with ''any'' living thing would be that living things are ever in a state of constant chemical activity. If you were to try and transfer a human one molecule at a time, during the process you would have two parts that could not function without eachother, and the human would die. The two obvious solutions would be to either do it very very fast, or freeze the human. The former would be extremely difficult, as it may generate too much heat (breaking and reforming the bonds of an entire organism in a fraction of a second takes a lot of energy), and essentially vaporize the person. The latter is the current science of [[cryonics]], which has its own problems. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] 06:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


== ecological spray bottle ==
See also our article [[Transport layer]], especially [[TCP]] and [[UDP]] for how computers move data from one place to another, and what sort of problems are involved --<big>[[User talk:L|L]]</big><sup><small>[[User:L|i]][[Special:Emailuser/L|e!]]</small></sup> 07:15, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


does anyone know if there are any glass or metal spray bottles with bioplastic triggers and straw available anywhere in existence? i really want to go plastic free for my succulent business ninosckasnaturals.com [[Special:Contributions/2600:1700:9758:7D90:B406:C016:3BC0:D48B|2600:1700:9758:7D90:B406:C016:3BC0:D48B]] ([[User talk:2600:1700:9758:7D90:B406:C016:3BC0:D48B|talk]]) 06:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
: I completely agree with [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]]'s summary - and would add that it's not enough simply to put the particles in the correct place - they would have to be moving in the correct direction and speed (notably to keep things the right temperature and to account for blood flow). Electrical flows in the brain would have to be correctly maintained. For objects that are made from solids (eg a block of wood), you might imagine we could do this - but for something made of liquids, gasses, colloids and other more dynamic materials such as living things - I think it would be very tough indeed. Your best approach would probably be to try to do it very rapidly - but the insane number of molecules involved in even a microscopic organism would make this all but impossible. The data rates required would be far, far higher than any frequency we are able to produce over any distance.
:Maybe one of those old-fashioned perfume misters with the rubber squeeze bulb? I doubt very much that there is a mass-produced non-plastic alternative spray bottle apparatus. <span style="font-family: Cambria;"> [[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 21:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)


:There are pump-type plant misters [https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51BjF5WYZIL._AC_UL320_.jpg (e.g. metal] or [https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61HSSmSKn2L._AC_UL320_.jpg glass]). --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 18:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
: It is also possible that [[Uncertainty principle|Heisenbergs Uncertainty Principle]] might cause problems here. For small particles, there are issues of being able to measure where they are and how fast they are moving that simply cannot be overcome because of fundamental physics limitations. If you don't know precisely where each particle is, you can't place it in the correct position in the reconstructed object. In [[Star Trek]], the Enterprise's transporters (which are generally supposed to work in the way you describe) are equipped with '[[Heisenberg compensator]]s' (wouldn't you just '''know''' Wikipedia would have an article about this!) One of my favorite lines from the Star Trek authors: ''When asked "How do the Heisenberg compensators work?" by Time magazine on 28th November 1994, Michael Okuda, technical advisor on Star Trek, famously responded, "They work just fine, thank you."''...and that's that!
::P.s.: LOOPSEED sells stainless steel plant mister spray bottles in various finishes, well-suited for succulents (search online for details). --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 18:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC) <small>-- [edit: 22:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)]</small>


== origin of the formula for LC frequency ==
: [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 12:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


In electricity, properties known as inductance and capacitance together can resonate. The formula for the frequency of resonance is 1/(2*Pi*SQRT(L*C)). Who first published this formula? ```` [[User:Dionne Court|Dionne Court]] ([[User talk:Dionne Court|talk]]) 06:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Speaking very conceptually, theoretically, and long distance here, like Leonardo in the 1400's describing things made practical in nthe 1900's, or like poeople in the 1700's describing electrical telegraphy made practical 100 years later, or like those in the 1860's describing airplanes made practical 50 years later, we presently have databases showing the human body sliced into very thin sections. In the one case, this has been done by CT scan, and in another case by literally freezing a human body and grinding away one thin layer at a time. At the present time, we have 3D printing, in which a device analogous to a computer printer lays down one layer at a time of a 3D object, using a variety of techniques, for rapid prototyping. We also have the ability to assemble atoms one at a time (in an early demo, they spelled out "IBM.") So in principle, in the future we should be able to analyze a small 3D object at one location, and fabricate a replica of it at another location. This capability in the foreseeable future does not extend down to the molecular or atomic level, but only captures the larger 3D details. To transport a small plant or animal would require molecular resolution, and vast bandwidth. We would not be turning the matter to energy at the sending end and energy to matter at the receiving end, but just sending assembly instructions. Certainly it would be at extremely low temperature: imagine trying to add atoms to a worm which was wiggling! I suppose the result would be a frozen creature at the receiving end which replicated a frozen creature at the sending end, starting with tiny objects like simple single cell organisms. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 13:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


:Somewhat after Laplace 1800 and before Poincarre, 1899 with a strong suspicion that the ubiquitous Maxwell might have done it. [[User:Greglocock|Greglocock]] ([[User talk:Greglocock|talk]]) 06:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
:Yes, it's possible to imagine how it might be done, and I'm not as pessimistic on this as SteveBaker. For example, you don't need to duplicate the thermal motion of every atom - you just need to put the particles in the right places and make sure that the temperature profile is about right. OK, you might have to jump-start the blood circulation to get the momentum going, but then you might not - after all, they can (usually) electrically restart hearts that stop beating. The same goes for electrical properties: you don't need to duplicate the position and trajectory of every electron, since all that matters are the relatively large-scale potential differences across membranes and synapses. (OK, so my arms are waving about wildly here.) I don't think that the Uncertainty Principle is going to be a show-stopper. You might disagree if you believe that consciousness is a spooky [[quantum]] thing, but I don't - I think it's an [[emergent property]] of matter.


::According to [[LC_circuit#History]] it was the ubiquitous [[Lord Kelvin]] in 1853. --[[User:Wrongfilter|Wrongfilter]] ([[User talk:Wrongfilter|talk]]) 07:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
:Like Edison, I would start with bacteria and iron out the little niggles, like accidentally turning the organism inside-out, before moving on to multicellular organisms. --[[User:Heron|Heron]] 18:58, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Thank you. That man did everything. [[User:Greglocock|Greglocock]] ([[User talk:Greglocock|talk]]) 23:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
:::It does say that, but it is incorrect, which is why I posted here. Kelvin derived an equation to describe the transient response (response to a one-time shock excitation). However the article io [[LC_circuit#History]] gave as a reference an article in the Bell System Technical Journal, 1941, pages 415-453. I have now obtained this paper and it gives James Clerk Maxwell as the first to give the resonance formula (in a different but mathematically equivalent form), in a letter published in Philosphosical Magazine 1868. I will try and get this letter. ```` [[User:Dionne Court|Dionne Court]] ([[User talk:Dionne Court|talk]]) 03:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
::::It is [https://books.google.com/books?id=8nRLYOTfUN4C&pg=RA1-PA360&dq=%22On+Mr.+Grove's+Experiment+in+Magneto-electric+Induc-tion%22&hl=en this letter]. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 12:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::It's from the right guy and via the correct other guy, but it has no math in it at all. It is not therefore the earliest statement of the resonance formula.
:::::I'm looking for the fist statement of the formula as given in modern textbooks, i.e.,
:::::f = 1/(2π(LC)<sup>½</sup>).
:::::It is a trivial exercise in algrbra to convert Maxwell's form into the standard modern form, but I would like to know when the modern form was first give. [[User:Dionne Court|Dionne Court]] ([[User talk:Dionne Court|talk]]) 00:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::The section entitled {{serif|''Mathematical Theory of the Experiment''}}, an enclosure to the letter immediately following it on page 361, definitely contains some maths. On page 363 we see the equation <math>\text{CL}n^2=1,</math> which results in an amplitude that, Maxwell writes, "{{serif|is the greatest effect which can be produced with a given velocity}}". In this formula, the "velocity" <math>n</math> is what is now more commonly denoted with the Greek letter <math>\omega.</math> &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 06:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
::::p 540 onwards in Mathematical and Physical Papers, Volume 1 William Thomson Baron Kelvin University Press, 1882 - Mathematics - 619 pages, which is in google books, certainly discusses oscillatory behavior and time between peaks but I don't think it explicitly states f=1/(2pi*sqrt(L*C)). Particularly equation 7 where his A is modern L. [[User:Greglocock|Greglocock]] ([[User talk:Greglocock|talk]]) 00:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 14 =
::Let's get [[RepRap]] working first eh? [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 04:03, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


== Cranial size and [[Pb]] poisoning ==
:::One thing that seems to be missing from the RepRap prototypes is a big red STOP button. That's the first thing I would have designed in. ;-) --[[User:Heron|Heron]] 20:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


Hello, can [[lead poisoning]] affect cranial size?[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 05:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Well, these are just lab prototypes - they move exceedingly slowly and are driven by fairly feeble stepper motors. You'd have to be amazingly careless to get hurt by one. They are comparable to an inkjet printer in terms of power - and much, much slower. In all likelyhood, a consumer grade machine would be fully enclosed with a power cut-off when you open the cover (like a dishwasher or a microwave). You'd want the machine to be enclosed so you could keep dust and such out of the molten plastic - and also to control airflow because the rate that the plastic cools is somewhat important. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 02:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:Yes.<sup>[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10023796/] [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18507499/] [https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2772961]</sup> --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 11:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 15 =
== "Shunning" in gulls? ==


== They see me rollin', they hatin... ==
Does anyone know the correct name for the behaviour wherein a sickly or injured gull will be driven from the larger gull flock by force and abandoned to fend for itself/die? From what I've read, [[albino]] gulls often get the same treatment? [[Shunning]] immediately came to mind but upon reading the article, that term seems to refer only to humans. --[[User:Kurt Shaped Box|Kurt Shaped Box]] 08:20, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Question for you guys. Is there any animal whose primary method of locomotion is curling into a ball and rolling head over heels to get around? Rather than running or walking. Because I think some woodlice do it (faster for them to roll then run), but I'm not 100% sure. [[User:Iloveparrots|Iloveparrots]] ([[User talk:Iloveparrots|talk]]) 03:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::May I ask why you've been asking about Gulls for so long now? Whoops, already asked. [[User:PitchBlack|<font color="purple">PitchBlack</font>]] 08:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
: Do [[Curl-up|fictional animals]] count? --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 03:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:[[Terrestrial locomotion #Rolling]] may be of interest. --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 03:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:I don't see how that could ever be a ''primary'' means of locomotion, but see also [[:Category:Rolling animals]]. [[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 08:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:[[Hedgehogs]] do it to escape from predators when threatened. [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D|2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D|talk]]) 10:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::Hedgehogs roll up for protection, not for locomotion. (Ditto for the woodlice mentioned by the OP). [[User:Wardog|Iapetus]] ([[User talk:Wardog|talk]]) 11:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I don't think I've ever seen a hedgehog roll outside of a video game. But then again, I've only ever seen hedgehogs in real life about three times. [[User:Iloveparrots|Iloveparrots]] ([[User talk:Iloveparrots|talk]]) 22:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Hedgehogs do not purposely roll when in a defensive ball. They "huff", which makes them bounce, forcing their quills into whatever is attacking them. That bounce could cause a roll, but it isn't on purpose. [[Special:Contributions/75.136.148.8|75.136.148.8]] ([[User talk:75.136.148.8|talk]]) 13:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
:See [[Rotating locomotion in living systems]]. [[Special:Contributions/2605:B100:34D:46C3:61A4:6B17:A082:3780|2605:B100:34D:46C3:61A4:6B17:A082:3780]] ([[User talk:2605:B100:34D:46C3:61A4:6B17:A082:3780|talk]]) 12:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:I have encountered assertions that [[Giant panda]]s, when sitting in a bamboo thicket on a slope, will sometimes roll a short distance rather than get up and walk, but this would need confirmation from a reliable source, and in any case would not be a ''primary'' means of locomotion. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.2.67.173|94.2.67.173]] ([[User talk:94.2.67.173|talk]]) 19:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
::A giant panda is rolling head first in this video: [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hWd8RGuMgE0 Panda Discovers Something Interesting.] They roll about a lot too, [https://www.nathab.com/blog/weird-panda-behavior-explained/ for various reasons]. [[User:Modocc|Modocc]] ([[User talk:Modocc|talk]]) 23:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


== What's the max depth of the Baltic, Black and Azov brim? ==
:::Simple answer. I think that gulls are great. Why this question? Well, I saw an injured (broken wing) gull being 'shunned' yesterday. Every time it approaced the other gulls on the beach, they would attack it and chase it away (yet it kept trying to return). Its head was already covered in blood when I encountered it. Poor thing was only a fledgling too. I managed to catch it and take it to the local wildlife rehab man. Apparently, it's doing okay today. --[[User:Kurt Shaped Box|Kurt Shaped Box]] 22:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


The depth where it stops being connected to the World Ocean 50% of the time (connected only by seepage through porous solids like silt not counting as connected). As the brim can erode, shift if the water's removed, be a V-notch in a ridge etc and even if it's dredged wide, straight and flat it might not be legal to lightly touch the silt so this might not round to the same number of feet as the deepest draft ship that's allowed at least 50% of the Metonic cycle, or how much sea level would have to drop to make it a lake 50% of the time. Also what would the depth be if the strait bottom wasn't landscaped? The Turkish Straits are pretty deep by ship standards maybe they aren't landscaped? [[User:Sagittarian Milky Way|Sagittarian Milky Way]] ([[User talk:Sagittarian Milky Way|talk]]) 18:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
:I still have Reference desk/Seagulls on my watchlist. Good times --<big>[[User talk:L|L]]</big><sup><small>[[User:L|i]][[Special:Emailuser/L|e!]]</small></sup> 11:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


:They wouldn't need to be "landscaped", the [[Bosphorous]] is typically about 60 m deep with a 40 m sill towards its southern end, although the Asian side of the strait at that point is somewhat shallower (about 27 m) - see [https://agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1029/2003PA000903 Siddall et al. (2004)]. [[User:Mikenorton|Mikenorton]] ([[User talk:Mikenorton|talk]]) 19:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
So, does anyone have a serious answer to my question? Guys? --[[User:Kurt Shaped Box|Kurt Shaped Box]] 16:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::Right I didn't think they would. Unless the depth of the rim's now artificial by more than a foot due to sinking accidents(s), full or partial intentional blockages or explosion(s) (possibly to clear some of the previous)? Or maybe it's still the natural rock or sediment accumulation-erosion surface? I don't know if the Baltic and Azov brim are unaffected by human landscaping. [[User:Sagittarian Milky Way|Sagittarian Milky Way]] ([[User talk:Sagittarian Milky Way|talk]]) 20:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)


== what happens when photon struck proton ? ==


= May 17 =
and when electron is strucked by photon ?


== What would cause these 'dark area' blemishes on an LCD monitor? ==
:When a photon hits an electron that is part of an atom, the electron absorbs the proton energy and bounces up to a higher [[energy level]]. However, the electron cannot stay at this level for long, and when the electron falls back down, it releases that energy again as more photons, which produces light by a process called "[[photoluminescence]]"; [[fluorescence|fluorescent]] jackets emit light in this way. [[User:Smurrayinchester|<span style="color:#00BB55">Laïka</span>]] 17:37, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


See this photo: https://ibb.co/mz8vQh0
== sunrise to solar noon? ==


This is my Asus Designo MX25AQ main monitor, I've had it for a little over four years and two months now. Since about a year ago, it started developing this issue where a "wavy" area of darkness appears near the left and right edges of the screen. It looks as if there's liquid in the screen or if something's "delaminating" inside. It would usually happen when it's cold, and would go away / "fade away" as it warmed up (usually taking a few minutes). However, over the last few months, it's been getting worse and worse. Nowadays, sometimes it's visible on certain shades of colours even when the monitor is fully warmed up. It is especially noticeable when it cools down in real life (e.g. it's becoming dawn and the brightness has been decreased).
On a typical day in North America, how long roughly is the period of time:
* between sunrise and and solar noon?
* between solar noon and the beginning of civil twilight?
* the beginning of solar twilight and solar midnight?
* between solar midnight and sunrise?


The "grey uniformity" of the monitor has been degrading a bit as well, I swear.
--[[User:Sonjaaa|Sonjaaa]] 10:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


I know I likely won't be able to fix an issue like this with the LCD panel. But my question is, what would possibly cause these issues? Could it develop into a stage where my LCD becomes completely / severely broken?
:It depends on the time of year and your latitude. There is no 'typical'. Nights are longer and days shorter in the winter - so time between (say) sunrise and noon is shorter in the winter than in the summer. The further north you go, the more pronounced this effect is. Coming up with a 'typical' number means what? At an average latitude an average day of the year? [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 12:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Note that I'm posting this to RD/S and not RD/C because I strongly believe this issue has something to do with materials degradation in the LCD and not some issue with the computer or cable, so I figured this is a better place for that.
::Exactly right. Case in point: think about in parts of Alaska when they have full days that are either light or dark.[[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 16:56, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Apologies for the non-free external image site upload, but if everything you see in the photo is not copyrighted then I will upload it to Commons. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 05:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::Note that the period between sunrise and noon is rarely exactly the same as the period from noon to sunset. [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] 17:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:I Googled around, and it could be moisture infiltrating around the edges. The fact that it clears when hot is suggestive of that. There was a suggestion that if the monitor is near a kitchen, these stains could include cooking fumes. Another possibility (and conceivably related) is damage from pulling the protective plastic sheet off, the one that came when the monitor was newly purchased. This has to be done extremely carefully. Yet another worry is cleaning with rubbing alcohol, the internet says this is a bad idea. <span style="font-family: Cambria;"> [[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 06:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::{{small|[[Rubbing alcohol]] as sold can consist for up to 50% of water. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 09:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)}}
::That sounds plausible! Thinking about it, more than a year ago I did clean my monitor using a wet microfibre cloth (a small, thin one for phones), and that seems to be the timepoint it all started. Worth pointing out that this monitor is in a bedroom, so it's not near moisture or oil vapour sources, and it has never been used in such an environment. When I got it new, there wasn't actually a protective sticky film on the front, just a styrofoam wrap. When I slid that wrap off, I got a nice big static shock when I touched the monitor bezel, but that didn't seem to do any immediate damage – this monitor was fine for the first 2.5 years or so that I used it.
::Another interesting fact about this monitor is that although I bought it in Mar 2020, according to the info label, it has an manufacture date of Sep 2015, so that means it sat in a warehouse for 4.5 years before I bought it I guess.
::Aside from this annoying and distracting issue, this monitor is the best quality display I've ever had (QHD resolution and 100% sRGB accuracy), so it'd be such a shame if it's actually dying on me. —&nbsp;[[User:AP 499D25|<span style="background:#1F6295;color:white;padding:1q 5q;border-radius:10q;font-family:Franklin Gothic, Verdana">AP&nbsp;499D25</span>]] [[User talk:AP 499D25|<span style="color:#1A527D">(talk)</span>]] 08:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


== Is there any scientific truth to the meme that Vegetable oil/Seed oil is toxic to the human body? ==
::::But the question was not about exact details. --Anon, July 29, 2007, 19:43:06.5 (UTC).
There are plenty of memes that seed oil causes diabetes and heart attacks but I failed to find any wikipedia articles that argues their case. Is there any scientific truth to the meme that Vegetable oil/Seed oil is toxic/harmful to the human body?


Another question is that if the meme of harmful seed oil is unscientific then why isn't this meme documented in the List_of_conspiracy_theories wiki page? [[Special:Contributions/2001:8003:429D:4100:A593:8A5B:182E:5551|2001:8003:429D:4100:A593:8A5B:182E:5551]] ([[User talk:2001:8003:429D:4100:A593:8A5B:182E:5551|talk]]) 15:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:::::Yeh, but there are so many variables affecting daylight that the question is comparable to asking ''how big is an animal?'' H<small>YENASTE</small> 22:52, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:Any kind of fats or oils '''in excess''' can cause heart disease, but there is '''no''' truth to the claim that vegetable oil is more toxic than animal fats (in fact, it's actually healthier) or that its consumption '''in moderation''' causes any health problems. [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17|2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17|talk]]) 23:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)


:Yes, there is truth to it. Our nutrition articles could do with some updating and balance. It is a prime example of Paracelsus's [[The dose makes the poison]], for both the omega 6 LA and omega 3 ALA are essential nutrients for humans. The basic issue is consumption of a high quantity of [[omega-6 fatty acid]]s from modern seed oils (which have only been consumed for a century or so) and other sources, including indirectly through animal feed and the (relative) paucity of [[omega-3 fatty acid]]s in the modern human diet. [Excessive omega-3 over omega-6 has been found only in [[Greenlandic Inuit]] traditional communities.] Probably the best book to start with is Anthony John Hulbert's recent Omega Balance: Nutritional Power for a Happier, Healthier Life- Johns Hopkins (2022). By omega balance, he means the percentage of omega 3's in the sum of omega 3's and 6's. He says:
::::::Yes, and there are pedants here who would reject even the question "What color is the sky?" with "Well, it depends" or "that depends on so many variables that it's impossible to say" (or, perhaps, "it depends on what the meaning of 'is' is").
::::::If I knew the answers off the top of my head, or if I had time to do the research just now, I'd provide an answer for, say, 40&deg; north latitude near the equinox, then explain how the answer varied towards the solstices, then explain how the answer varied at different latitudes. But I don't and I don't, so I can't just now. --[[User:Ummit|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:Ummit|talk]]) 23:01, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::So you can't be bothered to work it out - yet you complain that nobody else will either? I think you'd have an exceedingly hard time convincing anyone that the particular latitude and time of year that you happened to choose was "typical" per the OP. The OP also went to a lot of care to list the precise meanings of terms like dawn and noon - which suggests that some measure of accuracy was forseen (if you are talking about the difference between midwinter in Alaska, midsummer in Alaska and any time of year in southern New Mexico - then the subtle distinctions between solar noon and 12:00pm are utterly negligable due to an error of something like +/- 6 hours due to picking the location. Note further that the error is of comparable size to the answer - which means that the answer is in every sense meaningless - which is why I (for one) chose not to try to find an exact answer. The best we can say is "between 0 and 12 hours" in answer to most of those questions. We are doing a better job by telling the questioner that they have made a poor assumption in asking the question he/she did than by misleading them with an utterly valueless answer. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 04:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::::::: Steve. Peace. I didn't say I couldn't be bothered, and I'm sorry if it sounded like I was complaining. —[[User:Ummit|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:Ummit|talk]]) 04:13, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


<blockquote>Although there is no advice about separate consumption of omega-3 and omega-6 fats in these national dietary guidelines, this is not the case with the premier scientific society concerning lipid research. In 2004, ISSFAL ([[International Society for the Study of Fatty Acids and Lipids]]) issued a series of recommendations for dietary intake of the essential fats by healthy adults. They made no comment about consumption of the nonessential saturated and monounsaturated fats but instead proposed that adequate intake of 18:2ω-6 [ [[Linoleic acid]] (LA) ] is 2 percent of energy, and a healthy intake of 18:3ω-3 [ [[α-linolenic acid|α-linolenic acid (ALA)]] ] is 0.7 percent of energy as well as recommending a minimum intake of 500mg/d of 20:5ω-3 [ [[eicosapentaenoic acid]] (EPA)] and 22:6ω-6 [sic, should be 22:6ω-3 [[docosahexaenoic acid]] (DHA) as in the source [https://www.issfal.org/assets/issfal%2003%20pufaintakereccomdfinalreport.pdf]]. These ISSFAL recommendations for daily intake correspond to a diet omega balance of about 30 percent.
: Some useful data: [http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/ US Naval Observatory] &mdash;[[User:Tamfang|Tamfang]] 04:29, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
The recommended intakes contrast markedly with the average actual daily intakes by the US population (from a 1999–2000 survey), which correspond to a diet omega balance of 9 percent. Similarly, a dietary survey of the Australian population revealed the average daily intake in 1995 corresponded to a diet omega balance of 11 percent. Both the United States and Australia (and likely many other developed high-income countries) have omega-6 intakes much higher and omega-3 intakes lower than the recommended levels.</blockquote>


:Hulbert and other sources provide evidence that the omega imbalance can have deleterious effects not only in various chronic diseases, but also that the excess of inflammatory omega-6's can worsen outcomes of Covid, where many deaths appear to come from an excessive inflammatory response.[[User:John Z|John Z]] ([[User talk:John Z|talk]])
The original question is too general to really answer with precision but, I'd be interested in knowing:
* what is the precise moment which is called "sunrise"?
* what is "civil twilight"?
* what is "solar twilight"?
Is there a difference between the last two? [[User:Jaxhere|<font color="Blue">'''JAXHERE'''</font>]] | [[User_talk:Jaxhere|<sup><font color="Red">'''Talk'''</font></sup>]] 14:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::[[Twilight]] notes the specific definitions of Civil and Astronomical (what I presume is meant by "solar") Twilight. [[Sunset]] isn't quite as clear -- it notes that an optical illusion causes the sun to be visible even when entirely below the horizon, but I don't see a hard definition of sunset being defined geometrically versus optically. &mdash; [[User talk :Lomn|Lomn]] 17:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


:[[Water|μ-Oxidodihydrogen]], a chemical compound found in industrially processed [[canned soup]], is also known to be [[Water intoxication|toxic to the human body]]. Why is no one talking about this? &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 09:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
== Disposal of medications ==


:In very large excess, such as Olympic sized swimming pools, you would find it extremely difficult to swim in oil. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 12:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
What is the proper way to dispose of medications that are controlled substances? The local hazardous materials disposal group won't accept them, and I'm worried that just flushing them may cause environmental damage. [[User:69.123.113.89|69.123.113.89]] 14:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::{{small|It might be even more difficult in a bathtub. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)}}
:::A wry comparison to the dangers of water is appropriate to much or most discussion of nutrition. Which proceeds by demonizing food X and then along with declaring it causes disease Y, X is declared to be a novelty even though it was consumed by all or much of humanity for tens of millennia at least, or is even essential to life. Historical absurdity is absurdly accepted. But it isn't relevant here because nobody considers modern seed oils to be anything but essentially new foods, never existing or consumed in such bulk before by humans or by any animal. And there aren't many such candidates for widespread dietary changes that could be implicated in global rises of chronic diseases.
:::Another source, which may conceal some such wryness, is [https://archive.org/details/preventionofcoro0096unse Harumi Okuyama, Yuko Ichikawa, Yueji Sun, Tomohito Hamazaki, William Edward Mitchell Lands- Prevention of Coronary Heart Disease: From the Cholesterol Hypothesis to omega 6 omega 3 Balance- Karger (2006)]. They note that "Dietary advice was revealed to be the most serious risk factor for CHD in Japan." "We suggest that increased intake of LA [a consequence of that advice as it raised seed oil consumption] may be a major cause for the observed increase in CHD incidence in the group with dietary advice. Higher intakes of LA accompanied higher rates of CHD ( fig. 9–11 ; tables 4 , 5 ), whereas decreasing LA intake was effective for the secondary prevention of CHD events". In any case, there is a genuine, active scientific controversy here, not a conspiracy theory. Those who see omega imbalance as a real problem - and therefore seed oils, which uncontroversially are its ultimate source- may be the majority of specialist lipidologists, e.g. [[Artemis Simopoulos]], cofounder of ISSFAL.[[User:John Z|John Z]] ([[User talk:John Z|talk]]) 04:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


== Butterfly size ==
: Well, if you're just worried about environmental damage, sell them on the black market. Really, ask a doctor --<big>[[User talk:L|L]]</big><sup><small>[[User:L|i]][[Special:Emailuser/L|e!]]</small></sup> 14:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


Do butterflies (especially nymphalids and/or swallowtails) become significantly smaller in size near the poleward (high-latitude) limit of their natural range? When I visited the [[Royal Ontario Museum]] in [[Toronto]], they had 2 pinned specimens of [[Papilio cresphontes]] on display which were '''much''' smaller than their normal size per the article (one had a wingspan of "only" 3 inches -- I did a rough measurement with my fingers against the glass -- and the other was about 1/2 inch bigger) -- is this normal for (1) specifically ''P. cresphontes'', (2) all swallowtails, and/or (3) all or most butterfly species? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17|2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17|talk]]) 23:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
:At least in the UK (and surely other places too) any pharmacy will take them (not just the one that dispensed them). -- [[User:Finlay McWalter|Finlay McWalter]] | [[User talk:Finlay McWalter|Talk]] 15:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


:[https://www.jstor.org/stable/3546281 ''Size Distributions of Butterfly Species and the Effect of Latitude on Species Sizes''] (you can open a free JSTOR account or access through the [https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/?next_url=/users/my_library/ Wikipedia Library]). [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 10:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
::First of all, how much are we talking about here? If you have a huge stash and have decided to change your ways, wash them down the tub and go have a beer. If you have extra that are out of date, or still in date and that you don't need, then contact your local DEA office [http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/agency/domestic.htm here]. They will probably tell you to just wash them down the sink. Don't sell them or give them away, as we all know this is illegal. [[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 16:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
::Sorry, I won't click on any external links regarding '''this''' topic, just in case it might show me gratuitously enlarged pictures of ''P. multicaudata'' or some suchlike abomination -- can you just tell me the gist of it in a few words (or more than a few, your choice)? [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:E558:16C8:D2DE:51EF|2601:646:8082:BA0:E558:16C8:D2DE:51EF]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:E558:16C8:D2DE:51EF|talk]]) 10:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
::EDIT: I see now that most waste treatment plants in the states can't filter/treat organic waste like that found in medication. So, if you are from the U.S., contact the DEA for advice. I work in a pharmacy and we don't accept previously dispensed medications, not sure about others. If there is a Cardinal Health in your area, they're probably the only distributor of controlled substances and will likely have methods of disposing of them.[[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 19:26, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
:::There are no pictures, it's a scientific paper. "For butterfly species (Papilionoidea) of the Australian and Afrotropical regions, average wingspan decreases with increasing latitude". [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 10:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Thanks! So the answer is yes -- right? (And that would explain the unusually small size of the two ''P. cresphontes'' specimens at the museum -- they must have been caught locally, and Toronto is near the northern limit of this species' natural range! And that is also quite reassuring for me -- it means that in [[Portland, Maine]] where I've been planning to move for quite a while, any ''P. cresphontes'' I come across won't be scary huge, in fact I might actually come to like them!) [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:E55E:2854:FEDE:FEB6|2601:646:8082:BA0:E55E:2854:FEDE:FEB6]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:E55E:2854:FEDE:FEB6|talk]]) 21:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 18 =
:::In Sweden, washing medications down the sink is considered highly polluting! We're urged to bring back our old medications to the pharmacy. As far as I know, they dispose of the medications by burning them. [[User:Lova Falk|Lova Falk]] 18:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


== Why packaging is important ==
::::Indeed New Zealand as well. It appears that this is sometimes practiced in the US too [http://www.foxchasepediatrics.com/News%20Pages/Disposal%20of%20Old%20Medications%209-8-03.htm] although obviously not as common as it appears to be in most other developed countries [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 01:31, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


Two reasons why packaging is important [[User:PhuPhumzile|PhuPhumzile]] ([[User talk:PhuPhumzile|talk]]) 07:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
== Uterine Fibroids ==


Uterine fibroids.... does it have any dangers longterm ?? shortterm?? {{unsigned|212.107.116.244}}

:I've no idea, but your doctor is probably the best person to ask. [[User:Astronaut|Astronaut]] 17:16, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

::Did you read our article on [[uterine fibroids]]?--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 17:18, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

== Zoloft pill life ==

How long can a bottle of zoloft pills last? I was thinking they could last for years. Would the chemicals and powders in the pills still work after they expired.--[[User:Boxbone|logger]] 17:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:If, as you suggest, the bottle has an [[expiry date]], that would answer your question.--[[User:Shantavira|Shantavira]]|[[User talk:Shantavira|<sup>feed me</sup>]] 17:24, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

::You should consult a medical professional for this type of advice. Don't take expired medications without consulting with them first.[[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 19:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Because it's expensive to test drug's effectiveness as they age, most drugs are simply not tested for that and a blanket expiry date is put on all of them. It is therefore likely that it's completely unknown how long they last - or what adverse consequences might come from taking them after that time. There was a study done by the US army (I believe) who scrap millions and millions of dollars of drugs every year - and they found that most of the drugs they used would last well beyond the official expiry date. But there is no way for you to know whether this particular drug really does expire on that day or not - or what the consequences are of taking them after they've expired. So the safe advice is "Don't take them!". [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 03:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Salt and health ==

The article on [[salt]] says: Overconsumption of salt can increase the risk of health problems, including high blood pressure. Anybody who knows what other health problems overconsumption of salt can lead to? [[User:Lova Falk|Lova Falk]] 18:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:Theoretically, there is a lethal dose of salt. So you could technically eat enough straight salt in one sitting to kill you. The Salt Institute has a library of information on their [http://www.saltinstitute.org/4.html website]. Also they have one specifically addressing [http://www.saltinstitute.org/28.html sodium and health]. However, the tone of all the articles on the site seem to be more pro-salt than most medical publications. I personally believe that they represent a neutral standpoint and that most medical articles concerning salt apply to very few people. :) [[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 19:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

::Ah, an institute of salt producers. Reminds me of when I was working in the food sector and we used to get press releases from the salt association. Do you know, they didn't think people eating too much salt was a problem? In fact, they tended to emphasise that athletes need enough salt to replace what they sweat out, even when the discussion was about the average person who got less than half an hour's exercise a day. I assume they were neutral, and the government-funded medical research was biased.... [[User:Skittle|Skittle]] 23:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I wasn't referring to any sort of actual scientific research, public or privately funded. When I said medical articles, I meant magazine or newspaper articles which tend to misinterpret the actual message (my fault as I was initially vague). A healthy person needs salt. Most people without a blood pressure problem can eat just about as much salt that might exist in whatever food they eat, and remain perfectly healthy. However, 20-30 year-olds read some mistaken magazine article and think they should be on a low sodium diet. The truth is that there is absolutely no proof that a young (<40) person that is healthy will see benefits from a low sodium diet...none. So, salt is bad if you have high blood pressure. Otherwise it helps you move, feel, and think (3 process that require sodium ions). [[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 06:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Walnuts - idle thought whilst snacking... ==

Why do walnut halves look like the human brain? --[[User:Kurt Shaped Box|Kurt Shaped Box]] 19:46, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:Do they? I would have asked: ''why does the human brain look like a walnut half?''- [[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 20:48, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

::Its likely to do with trying to cram a large surface into a small volume, with a connection to a stem. The surface is folded, and comes out with bilateral symmetry do to the shape of the case or shell. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|GB]] 21:51, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

:::But why do the walnut and the brain need large surface? [[User:A.Z.|A.Z.]] 21:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

::::The [[cerebral cortex]] contains about two-thirds of the human brain's 100 billion neurons, organised in a thin layer of [[cortical column]]s. Higher brain functions (such as perceptual awareness, "thinking", language and consciousness) requires more neurons organised in this manner, but you are limited by the confines of the skull. In order for this large [[surface area]] to fit, the cortex folds in on itself, resulting in a series of ridges and grooves (([[gyri]] and [[Sulcus (neuroanatomy)|sulci]]) that give the brain its "wrinkled" appearance. I don't know why the walnut requires a large surface area. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 22:32, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

::::As our [[walnut]] article points out, the modern walnut is the product of centuries of horticultural selection, so looking for a strictly "naturalist" evolutionary answer may be misleading. All that being said, I'm not sure why that particular nut would need that much surface area, though my guess would be it had something to do with water absorption/retention. --[[User:24.147.86.187|24.147.86.187]] 00:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:So they should amend that old -- ahem -- [[chestnut (joke)|chestnut]] about [[apatosaurus]] brains being the size of a walnut to "apatosaurus brains are the size ''and shape'' of a walnut"! :) --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 18:28, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Mouse brain.jpg|right|thumb|A mouse brain...not like a walnut.]]
::Actually - probably not. Many modern species of lower intelligence have much smoother brains because they simply don't need the density of cerebral cortex that humans, dogs, chimps, dolphins, etc need. It's possible that Apatosaur brains were both small and fairly smooth...like the mouse brain in the photo. I doubt that Apatosaur needed to be much smarter than a mouse. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 23:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Indeed. It is commonly said that the huge [[Stegosaurus]] had a brain the size of a walnut. --[[User:Taraborn|Taraborn]] 22:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

= July 30 =

== six-legged logging robot ==

I remember watching a show on the history channel (I believe) about the history of logging. When it got up to modern innovations, there was a six-legged robot which I believe was Swedish and roughly the size of a truck. It was designed with legs so as to be able to navigate over obstacles and difficult terrain, and to avoid doing damage to the forest floor--the legs would spread the weight out, and didn't scuff up the turf like wheels or treads do.

Unfortunately I can't manage to find any of this online. There's the occasional mention in robotics or mecha fandom forums, but all the links are dead. I have yet to even find a picture. Google searches turn up a million different things, like buggy chat-logging bots, but not giant forest logging robot bugs. Does anyone know more about this, or know where I can find more information? [[User:172.145.184.137|172.145.184.137]] 00:19, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

: I guess it's mentioned here: [[Talk:Mecha#Real-life_efforts]] (however, the address given there doesn't seem to work). It seems to be made by Finnish company "Plustech Oy" (or something like that). Such search in Google actually gives some links with pictures. There also seem to be some scientific articles mentioning it. --[[User:Martynas Patasius|Martynas Patasius]] 01:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Here's a rad video: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6uaDaS3usc] --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 13:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== cfl lamps ==

why cf lamps are said to lessen the electricity expense?
:Why don't question askers bother to read articles like [[Fluorescent lamp]] before they ask? [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 02:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

::Or the even more on point [[Compact fluorescent lamp]] article.

::[[User:Atlant|Atlant]] 11:58, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

: Short answer: they are more efficient. They use less electric energy to produce the same amount of light. (Also, they last longer than conventional incandescent bulbs.) —[[User:Ummit|Steve Summit]] ([[User talk:Ummit|talk]]) 03:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:another short answer: they don't make as much heat. [[User:Gzuckier|Gzuckier]] 17:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== A Question ==

I understand that I shouldn't be asking help for my homework, but I'm merely seeking guidance here and have conjured up a answer previously...
So here it is, the question asks to describe the change of speed over time for 'the first 4 seconds of a sprinter's 100 m race', and here is the possible answer:

It started off at high speed (due t the first burst of speed from the launch pad, or whatever it is called) then the speed drops slightly (as the energy from the outburst is countered by resistance...) then the speed builds up until it reaches a point (I'm wonderin if this point should be higher/lower/equal to the first burst of speed) then levels off til the end.

Thanks!

:That answer doesn't make sense. "as the energy from the outburst is countered by resistance"?!?! I certainly don't believe that the speed drops at any point in the first four seconds. Your words reveal a serious misunderstanding of simple Newtonian mechanics which is (probably) what the question is trying to test you on...and you don't know it...at all. Firstly - you need to clearly understand the difference between [[work]], [[force]] and [[energy]] and between [[speed]]/[[velocity]] and [[accelleration]] and (perhaps) how [[drag]] works...although I'd be surprised if it were much of a factor here - the question probably even says "ignoring the effects of air resistance" somewhere. Since this is homework, I'm not going to tell you the answer. However, I'd like to point out that the reason you get homework is not to have you find the answer - but to learn how to get it. So start reading those six articles (or your physics text book which probably states it in simpler language) and maybe you'll learn something! Oh - and the 'launch pad' things are called 'blocks'.

Sorry for the trouble, I guess I wasn't thinking straight earlier on... well, I think the first bit of my previous 'answer' ought to be ignored, leaving the later bit where the speed builds up from 0m/s to a certain pt then levels til the end...right this time?

:There would be an almost constant acceleration to near 10m/s in something like 0.1 secs, then for the rest of the 4 secs the runner would decelerate slightly when both feet are off the ground (air resistance), then re-accelerate when one of his legs are on the ground. I don't know the period of the average 100m runner's stride, it's probably a cycle of period 0.4s or thereabouts, so a periodic dip every 0.2s or so.
:This is completely guess work and OR :) - maybe they accelerate over a few strides, but still i wouldnt imagine much acceleration over the last 3 seconds besides keeping up with air resistance [[User:Capuchin|Capuchin]] 09:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::I really don't believe air resistance is significant at 10mph. The formula for air resistance says that the drag force is proportional to the square of the speed - and the amount of power consumed to overcome that drag is proportional to the cube of the speed.
::We know that at 120mph or so (terminal velocity for a skydiver with his arms and legs spread out to deliberately slow himself down) the drag force is equal to the weight of your body. At half that speed, (60mph) the drag is four times smaller. At 30mph it's 16 times smaller, at 15mph it's 64 times slower - so at a 10mph run (and for someone who has arms and legs not splayed out with a baggy paracuting suit) - the force due to drag is maybe 1/200th of the weight of our skydiver...tiny...having lighter shoes will have a bigger effect! [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 23:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Not true! For sprints, air resistance is absolutely critical. The acceleration of a sprinter is much less than 1 g. A world class 100 m averages closer to 20 mph (actually a bit faster than that). To cover 100 m in 10 s, the acceleration is 2 m/s², that is, 0.2 g. If the air resistance at 20 mph is 1/50 of the runner's body weight, that's a 10% effect in how fast they can accelerate! Even a 1% difference would be quite significant for races. OK, I see now that you may have meant the runner doesn't slow down appreciably over the course of a single stride. That is certainly true. --[[User:Reuben|Reuben]] 01:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::::Exactly - sure there is some air resistance - but it's the same for everyone - so the fact that a 1% difference in accelleration can win or lose the race isn't the point here. The question is whether it has the ability to slow you down between paces to any measurable degree...I really doubt that. I guess one significant question is whether the sprinter endeavors to keep one foot pushing against the track at all times - or whether he/she spends appreciable time in free-fall with neither foot providing traction as (say) a hurdler would? Logically - to get the most from your muscles, you'd want to always be pushing against the track because 'air time' is wasted. But I guess that's simply geometrically impossible under the circumstances - if one foot was always on the ground at all times, that would be a walking race - not running. But as far as the OP is concerned, he has far bigger concerns with getting this homework done. Just ignore air resistance! [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 01:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Computer games causing migraines ==

Hope this in the right place - it seemed to vaguely fit under 'biology', heh.

3D games like [[first person shooters]] and [[platform games]] give me massive migraines and make me feel sick - curious as to whether there is an article about this on Wikipedia? I'd search for it myself, but I'm not really sure what to look for :) Thanks in advance! <span style="padding:2px;font-size:80%;font-family:verdana;background:#E6E8FA;">[[User:KamrynMatika2|Kamryn]] · [[User talk:KamrynMatika2|Talk]]</span> 10:02, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Oh never mind - found what I was looking for in [[motion sickness]] :) <span style="padding:2px;font-size:80%;font-family:verdana;background:#E6E8FA;">[[User:KamrynMatika2|Kamryn]] · [[User talk:KamrynMatika2|Talk]]</span> 10:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

::There are other possible reasons why you could have a headache or feel sick after playing games. Are you playing on a TV or Computer Monitor? If you are on a CRT monitor, make sure you have the refresh rate turned up higher. Two other things that work for me (Personal Research, don't take it as fact, but motion sickness is depedant on the person yes? :D) is "zooming-out" in those types of games, I.E. play in third person mode if possible instead of looking through the "eyes" of the character. Also, incredibly smooth animation/frame rates gives me a headache, perhaps due to the fluidity of the motion, so I tend to turn the graphics options a little higher to maintain at around 30FPS (which spikes downards and causes jerkiness so often) instead of higher frame rates. --[[User:GTPoompt|GTPoompt]][[User talk:GTPoompt|<small>(talk)</small>]] 12:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:My little sister has never been able to play 3D video games (well, if it's locked in a 2D perspective with "depth" that's one thing but you know what I mean) because she's unable to visualize the full 3D environment around her from the image data available at any one time on a 2D screen. This isn't a matter of fogetting what was behind you the instant you turn around, but rather not being able to construct a 3D visualization (or usually more importantly just a 2D overhead view) from just the player's perspective. And games with dynamic third-person cameras are even worse for her since it's an extra level of disorientation when the camera moves relative to the character. Also she's disoriented by the [[3D projection]] onto the screen- I guess she overrelys on parallax effects and such to assist in depth perception. Any one of these things could be your problem --[[User:Froth|'''froth''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Froth|<small>t</small>]]</sup> 15:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

::How old is your sister? That really surprised me: "she's unable to visualize the full 3D environment around her from the image data available at any one time on a 2D screen", unless, maybe, she's very young. --[[User:Taraborn|Taraborn]] 22:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:::This sounds strange since ultimately the image is rendered on to the 2-D retina on the back of the eyeball. It's rather easy to fool. In fact, can she watch movies which is basically the same principle. --[[User:Tbeatty|Tbeatty]] 06:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:::She's 14! As for movies, you don't exactly need to do anything to watch a movie, while in a game you need to have a pretty firm grasp of your environment for tasks such as path finding and defending yourself from enemies... in games like counter-strike (especially on smaller maps like gg, fy, aim, etc) you need to know right where your team is covering and where you're sure no enemy could be if you don't want to get shot in the side or the back --[[User:Froth|'''froth''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Froth|<small>t</small>]]</sup> 16:17, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

: I'm also pretty sensitive to some kinds of game (and other 3D graphic display)...and I'm a professional game programmer! Several things I've observed:
:# I'm more affected when someone else is in control than when I'm playing...yet I can watch 3D animated movies on TV or in a movie theatre without any problems???
:# The larger the screen - the worse it is. Try using a smaller screen.
:# The greater the disparity between the field of view of the camera in the game and my own eyes, the worse it is. Most games use a wider field of view than our real eyes - and we sit so far back from the screen (typically) that the screen subtends maybe 20 degrees of your view - where the game is drawing maybe 60 to 90 degrees. This is odd because it's in direct contravention of (2)...but there it is.
:# Poor framerates make it much worse. A game that runs at 60Hz is much less troubling than one that runs at 20Hz.
:# In games where the eyepoint skids sideways as you turn your avatar around - they'll make my stomach turn sour in less than a minute - guaranteed!
:# 1st person games are much worse than 3rd person...except for driving games where the reverse is the case. (Go figure?!)
:# 2D games and 3D 'god' games like Civ or SimCity where there is no perspective, never bother me.
:# Some specific games are bad - for no reason I can explain. All of the James Bond games on Nintendo machines make me want to puke...no matter whether I play in 1st person or 3rd person or even in parts of the game where you're driving a car or something. Dunno why.
: As for your sister...it's rare these days but: Babies are commonly somewhat cross-eyed at birth and usually learn to focus and get their eyes lined up within just a few days. In a few rare cases where this doesn't happen and the baby stays cross-eyed for weeks or months, the part of the brain that is responsible for 3D 'understanding' never develops. Of people born in the 1970's or earlier, this is amazingly common - maybe 10% of people have the problem. These people are often unaware of their condition until they try to use 3D glasses or those stereogram things...which do nothing for them. More recently, doctors test babies for this problem and work to fix it before it's a permenant problem - so it's much rarer these days. I did see somewhere an article on the 'net by a lady who managed to teach herself to see in real 3D at age 30 or 40 years - so it's possible that it can still be fixed. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 23:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::::I'm also one of the people for whom some video games trigger migraines. I first discovered it with DOOM, and since then I've noticed that pretty much any first-person shooter does the same thing. A few other games do it -- I think the frame rate does have something to do with it. Pity, too; it's usually the games I'm most interested in that do it. (Messes me up for a whole day; requires crawling under the pillow in a dark room.) --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|&#8711;&#8710;&#8711;&#8710;]]</small></sup> 22:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::There was actually a really interesting article by [[Oliver Saks]] in the ''New Yorker'' a few months ago about [[binocular vision]] and the amazing fact that some people who do not have it (being born cross-eyed or otherwise unable to physically form a coherent binocular image) were able to reasonably develop it at a much later age in life after a lot of terribly difficult training. I forget the details but it was pretty interesting, and Saks suggested that this probably meant that the "you need to develop it when young or it is impossible" paradigm (which has been around for a ''loonggg'' time) is probably not the whole story. --[[User:24.147.86.187|24.147.86.187]] 23:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Just an FYI: it's [[Oliver Sacks]]. [[User:38.112.225.84|38.112.225.84]] 06:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Right - that's true. As I explained, there was a lady on [[NPR]] who managed to train herself to see in 3D for the first time at age maybe 30/40 years (it must have been a stunning revelation!) - and gradually, over the course of many months gained full 3D vision. So yeah - it's possible to get it back. But I still think it's true to say that if you didn't just happen to get it right soon after birth then it's not going to come back "naturally" when the vision problem is corrected - it takes active training...and the suggestion was that it's neither easy nor certain. See [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&list_uids=17069554&cmd=Retrieve&indexed=google] for example. (Oh great...they called the patient "Stereo Sue"...sheesh!) [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 01:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== alkyl group ==

Why is the alkyl group electron releasing? In the wikipedia, it just said in reference to hydrogen, alkyl groups are electron releasing constituents, is there a reason to explain this besides it is just because of inductive effect?
: As there are no multiple bond mesomeric structures or lone pairs the inductive effect is the only cause for this behavior.--[[User:Stone|Stone]] 15:20, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Could also do [[hyperconjugation]] from the H on the first C of the alkyl chain. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] 17:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::Right!--[[User:Stone|Stone]] 07:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Radio powered ==

If [[crystal radio]]es can create sound by remodulating the powerful-enough radio waves, is it possible to instead harness the power of the radio waves to power something? Like self-recharging batteries or something? And would this be anywhere near anything that could be considered efficient? (not that blasting hundreds of square miles with radio waves and letting the escaping ones go to waste is efficient in the first place..) --[[User:Froth|'''froth''']]<sup>[[User_talk:Froth|<small>t</small>]]</sup> 15:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:Yes it can be done. No it is not efficient. I think they have used sound powered electronics once when the electronics didn't need much power and couldn't be hooked up to the power lines. It was a lot easier than replacing the batteries on all of those devices periodically. I can't remember the exact circumstances. Radio powered also wouldn't work in [[Faraday cage]]s, although you probably wouldn't spend much time in them. You might be able to have a radio output in your house to power wireless devices in a not too inefficient way, but I don't know if this is what you want. — [[User:DanielLC|Daniel]] 15:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

:See also [[wireless energy transfer]]. --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 15:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:: [[Radio-frequency identification]] RFID chip is also powerd by the radiofrequency absorbed by the antenna.--[[User:Stone|Stone]] 16:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

The principal problem you face is the [[inverse-square law]]; as you get farther and farther from a typical omnidrectional (+/-) radio broadcasting [[antenna]], you need an enormously large receiving antenna to intercept even a small fraction of the original broadcasting power. That 50,000 watts that [[WABC (AM)|WABC]] is pumping out in the [[New Jersey Meadowlands]] has become just a few microwatts when it reaches your crystal radio; that's why the volume of sound produced by the earpiece is so low.

On the other hand, [[microwave power transmission]] uses a focused beam of microwaves to move power from one point to another. Over the distances that are envisioned, it's pretty easy to build antennas big enough to beat the beam dispersion caused by the inverse square law.

[[User:Atlant|Atlant]] 16:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Sure. I remember an article in Popular Electronics in the early 60s or so, which was a transistor radio powered by tuning a second tuner to any powerful station around. [[User:Gzuckier|Gzuckier]] 17:40, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

== Global Warming? ==
Is it true that global warming is caused by Merecats?--[[User:172.144.134.131|172.144.134.131]] 16:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Absolutely, You've penetrated their plan to turn the whole world into appropriate territory for them to live in. Now you have to go into hiding. [[User:Gzuckier|Gzuckier]] 17:41, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Do you mean to ask whether global warming is caused by [[cat|mere cats]], or by [[meerkat]]s? If there were enough of them suspended in the atmosphere, I think they would both cause cooling rather than warming. --[[User:Reuben|Reuben]] 17:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:Yup. ''[[Meerkat Manor]]'' will soon be retitled ''Meerkat World'' and air 24 hours a day. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] 20:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
::: Um, to answer the question a little more explicitly: No, not unless one could make an argument that they contribute to a significant portion of the CO2 in the air.[[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 02:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

==Plant defense ==
[[Plant_defense_against_herbivory]] states three different chemical groupse of compounds used for protection against herbivores:
nitrogen compounds (including [[alkaloid]]s, cyanogenic glycosides and glucosinolates), [[terpenoid]]s, and [[phenolic]]s. The groupe of altered fatty acides is not mentioned. But substances like [[Cicutoxin]] or [[Falcarinol]] are also used against herbivores and they derive from the condensation of [[acetyl CoA]] and subsequent dehydrogenation to form the double and tripple bonds. Should this group be included?--[[User:Stone|Stone]]

:You seem to know a lot about it - and it sounds like you are probably right - it should be added. However, please remember the importance of referencing your sources - that is what makes your addition totally non-controversial. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 23:04, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

::You are right, referencing the facts is important. I will add the group of chemicals to the article!--[[User:Stone|Stone]] 07:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I think there are some plants that have enzymes that destroy vitamin B. Any animal that dines exclusively on that kind of plant will get a vitamin deficiency and die. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|GB]] 10:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Animal reproduction ==

One thing I find fascinating about [[shark]]s is that they are able to give birth three different ways, and are even known to reproduce asexually. What other groups of animals have such reproductive diversity? [[User:Enok Walker|Enok]]<sup>[[User talk:Enok Walker|talk]]</sup> 21:44, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
:I seem to recall it being a plot point in the original [[Jurassic Park]] novel that certain [[frog]]s had the ability to change sexes. See [[Hermaphrodite]] for more on that front. --[[User:Mdwyer|Mdwyer]] 01:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Paper ==

How much paper is produced from an average sized tree? (In printer paper sheets, preferably). I would like to cite this for a letter to the editor at the Windsor Star. Thank you. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] 23:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

: According to http://www.bc.com/ (a paper company) a cord of wood (128 cubic feet) produces "nearly 90,000 sheets of bond-quality paper or 2,700 copies of a 35-page newspaper". [http://science.howstuffworks.com/question16.htm] comes up with 80,000 sheets...so that's probably about right. How many cords do you get out of one tree? Well, it varies wildly between age and species of course...the US forestry service defines a tree suitable for cutting down as: ''A live tree of commercial species at least 9.0 inches d.b.h. for softwoods or 11.0 inches for hardwoods, containing at least one 12-foot sawlog or two noncontiguous 8-foot sawlogs, and meeting regional specifications for freedom from defect.''...so let's go with 10" diameter and 16' length. That's 35 cubic feet. But paper pulp can use more of the branches and skinnier stuff - so it's probably a lot more than that for paper as opposed to solid planks and stuff. I'm going to guess 50 cu.ft per tree. So 2.56 trees is a cord - and a cord is 90,000 sheets of typing paper or 2,700 copies of the Windsor Star. I think they're getting about a thousand newspapers per tree. The Windsor Star website says that they use 25% to 30% recycled content - so you should probably assume 1500 copies per tree to be on the safe side. I think you'd be on shakey ground if (as I suspect you are about to) you start telling the newspaper that it's causing massive deforestation because it printed something you didn't like! [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 01:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:: Nah, if it were something about what I didn't like, it would be how I go through all my red pens proof editing their articles :P (not seriously, i only go through one a month). Actually, it is resume related. So thus, if 90,000 sheets of paper are taken from one cord, and a cord is approximately 2.56 trees, then the amount of printer paper would be around 35,150 sheets.
Thanks Steve. [[User:Crisco 1492|Crisco 1492]] 14:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::Ah! Sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion. Anyway - that number has a massive error bar on it - but at least you know where the numbers came from and how it was worked out. That oughta be enough for a job application...unless of course you are applying as a fact-checker...in which case maybe you should check my facts first! Good luck with the job hunting. [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 20:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

= July 31 =

== Turning the Pampas into forest ==

As the wikipedia article on the Pampas suggests, the only reason that the more humid part of the Pampas doesn't have a deciduous forest like its counterparts in the north temperate regions have is because of edaphologic reasons, e.g. the ground being too compact to allow tree growth. My question is, if people were to plant extensive parts of the Pampas with trees, would the soil eventually break up enough to allow trees to grow naturally, so that native species of trees that are only present along riversides to colonize areas away from rivers?

== Thermo Wells ==

How do temperature gauges mounted in thermo wells work?
Also, i would like to know about the construction of thermo wells.

:Looks like we need an article on [[thermal blanket]] - which is the general term. A thermal well is a "deep" thermal blanket based on the same technology. -- [[User:Kainaw|Kainaw]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:Kainaw|(what?)]]</sup></small> 12:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::OK - created the article. As for the temperature gauge, it appears to just be a regular thermostat. If the soil is too cold, it increases the heat. If it is too hot, it decreases the heat. -- [[User:Kainaw|Kainaw]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:Kainaw|(what?)]]</sup></small> 12:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== How MUCH air moves with the wind? ==

Short: I'm working on a simplified weather simulator, and having trouble finding information about how much -- what volume, mass or molar quantity -- of air moves with the wind caused by pressure differential.

Detail: I'm making several gross simplifications in my sim, and using a lot of descrete time, quantity, etc., units where the real answer is more differential than that. So I've got, let's say, a column of air in my atmosphere. To simplify, let's say this column is isolated -- we won't worry about the columns surrounding it, and just talk about up & down in THIS column. At some point in the column, I have a cubic meter (let's say) of air that is 772 mmHg. The "next" M^3 of air up in my column is (let's say), 762 mmHg. I want to "mix" these two bodies and, using PV=nrT, I know that -- once everything settles out -- the two air-masses will try to move toward their "average" of 767 (assuming no other forces, like the remainder of the column.) There is also mixing of temps, proportionate to how much each air "bucket" contributed, etc.

So far, so good. I've got this much "down."

What I DON'T know is: let's say that, rather than a M^3, my "buckets" are 10kM^3 -- so now it's easy for me to see (imagine?) that this exchange/transfer/equalization takes some amount of time. There's not just an instantaneous "poof" and it's over. And that, btw, is "wind" (although, in this case, the "wind" I'm describing is vertical, and more likely called "convection.")

So my question is: once I've figured out how the two adjacent "buckets" of air are going to try to equalize (the "easy" part), how do I figure out how long it will take for that exchange to take place (the question part)?

Is there some sort of "amount of air that will flow past an area size A in an amount of time T, given a pressure differetial ΔP" formula?

Thanks! [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 15:09, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:To solve this I'd recommend considering the <u>mean speed of the gas particles across the pressure boundary</u> - looking at [[ideal gas]] or [[gas laws]] might lead you to find an expression for this but I think it's something like sqrt(RT/?m) times a constant - you can consider the number of gas particles going in one direction and the number going in the other direction to give the change in pressure etc after a small period of time.

:: Right. That's basically my question: what is this formula? I haven't been able to find it under and of the gas-law sites, ideal or otherwise. (For my purposes, I'll be using ideal, and ignoring the fact that things aren't ideal in my sim.) [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 00:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::You can find it here [[Root_mean_square#Root_mean_square_velocity]]
:::You'll probably need the component of that in one direction, I think that's 1/sqrt(3)

:Next you need to be able to convert an expression for "amount of air that will flow past an area size A in an amount of time T, given a pressure differetial ΔP" into a differential equation and hopefully solve that. (not necessarily easy or do-able)

:: That's one of the short-cut simplifications I plan to make in the sim, too -- that I'll be doing this with descrete time (''i.e.'', 1 minute's worth at a time), vice doing actual differentials. [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 00:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:to summarise find (or ask about) an equation that gives the velocity of gas molecules across an area in terms of p,T,gas type. Then find the change on either side of the boundary to get the new conditions (you'll need to take into account the average energy of the molecules on one side and the molecules that have moved in), next solve this eqaution (it's a differential equation - maths desk might help more).

:Did that supply the missing info?[[User:83.100.252.241|83.100.252.241]] 17:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:: Sort of. The thing I'm missing is the "how much air moves in a given time period?" part. [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 00:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:As for your question about the computer sim - I'd recommend (once you've got a solution for AxAxA buckets) splitting up your 10000Ax10000Ax10000A buckets into buckets of size A, and finding the change in each small bucket in time t. Then run the simulation and observe what happens.?[[User:83.100.252.241|83.100.252.241]] 17:45, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:: Right. THAT part I understand. I just can't seem to find the "how much air should I be moving around for a given time period?" formula, and I'm not sure where to look.
:: Thanks! [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 00:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

=== Perhaps a better restatement of the question ===

An example: Let's say I have a box, volume V, pressure P. I have another box, volume V', pressure P'. I put them together and open a hole between them area A. The [[ideal gas]] law tells me how to figure out how the two boxes will eventually reach equillibrium. '''My question is:''' What is the formula for figuring out how the pressures changes ''over time''? Or, if no one knows that, what is the forumula called? Or what sorts of terms do I want to put into Google? I'm not even sure what to call what I'm looking for, here.

Thanks! [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 05:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

==leather==

1. Is it true to say that leather is made from the [[Stratum corneum]] or are other parts of the skin included?[[User:83.100.252.241|83.100.252.241]] 15:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

2. If so what are the forces between the dead cells that give leather/skin its strength?[[User:83.100.252.241|83.100.252.241]] 15:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

3. Can anyone supply a link that shows a microscopic picture of leather (or a diagram) showing its similarity (or remnant structures) in comparison to the skin it is made of.[[User:83.100.252.241|83.100.252.241]] 15:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== oral chelation ==

I need information on oral chelation both positive and negative side effects and possilbe organ toxicity
especially related to kidneys.

:See our article on [[chelation therapy]] for some information. Note that oral chelation therapy has not been found effective in clinical trials. [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 16:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

== Size of Euro Banknotes ==

What ios the logic behind the selection of the size of euro banknotes. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:202.70.64.15|202.70.64.15]] ([[User talk:202.70.64.15|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/202.70.64.15|contribs]]) 17:45, July 31, 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>
:[[Euro banknotes]] - larger notes are worth more? was there something more specific you were thinking of?[[User:83.100.252.241|83.100.252.241]] 17:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::Different sizes also make it easier for people with impaired vision to distinguish notes. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 17:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::Also, very large or very small notes would be rather inconvenient, both for people and for machines (such as ATMs and cash registers) that need to process them. Combine this with the desire to maximize the size difference between different notes (to make them easier to tell apart) and you'll probably get something fairly similar to the sizes actually selected. —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 22:37, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Well, in the US, where all the money is the same colour, that would make sense, but euros are coloured differently. [[User:DirkvdM|DirkvdM]] 05:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::Most countries banknotes are coloured differently but are different sizes. Both features help people (and machines) differentiate different denomination banknotes from each other. Also, as you pointed out, it's far easier to see the different denomination notes when they are stacked in a wallet, pile, cash register, etc [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 13:01, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:One advantage is that it's easy to pick a certain size out of a wallet. I've got 5, 10, 20 and 50 euro notes in my wallet, ordered by size and the higher nominations are easily distinguishable from the lower ones when I open the wallet. No need to fumble about. [[User:DirkvdM|DirkvdM]] 05:59, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::If you see not properly or you are colour blind size would be a good help for you.--[[User:Stone|Stone]] 11:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::What happens if you are ''dimensionally challenged''? --[[User:Jaxhere|<font color="Blue">'''JAXHERE'''</font>]] | [[User_talk:Jaxhere|<sup><font color="Red">'''Talk'''</font></sup>]] 15:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== What is the difference between light and EM energies besides frequency? ==

others have dodged this question rather then replying it. To say that light is quantized (photons) and EM is not does not answer the question.

:That isn't an answer because it is not true. See [[electromagnetic spectrum]]. The difference is frequency/energy. Notice (when you read the article) that frequency and energy are related based on Planck's constant. -- [[User:Kainaw|Kainaw]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:Kainaw|(what?)]]</sup></small> 18:08, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:(EC) There is no difference; [[visible light]] is ''a kind of'' [[electromagnetic radiation]] (that is, it is EM radiation with a particular [[frequency]]). It's like asking "what is the difference between an apple and a piece of fruit?". --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 18:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
::That's right - light is EM radiation of a certain frequency. Other measures are used (wavelength and energy) but these three things are directly related (energy is proportional to frequency and wavelength is inversely proportional to them). In other words all light and EM radiation can be described by a single variable - the frequency (intensity is the amount of it).
::Thats the current level of understanding (ive not included polarisation).
:Different frequencies of EM radiation interact with matter in different ways. The energy of light wave matches the difference in energy between outer electron orbitals, so that it can be absorbed or emmited by this mechanism. X-Rays have similar energy to the inner electrons in atoms, and so can knock out those electrons. Gamma rays have energy in the realm of nuclear transitions, can so can get a nulceus into an excited state if it is the right frequency. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|GB]] 11:03, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:From [[Light]]: "Light is electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength that is visible to the eye." The 'eye" here is unspecified, so what is light to a bee is invisible ultraviolet electromagnetic radiation to a human. What is invisible infrared to a human may be used by a [[Pit viper]] to track its prey. The part of the EM spectrum which is "Light" for humans is about one octave, if you picture a long keyboard with keys stretching to a practically unlimited distance to the low frequency and high frequency directions. This tiny band of wavelengths makes the task of focussing and creating a sharp image easier for the eye than if longer and shorter wavelengths had to be formed into an image. Distinguising these hues or seeing these colors may have some special survival value compared to a higher or lower frequency band. See also [[Visible spectrum]]. [[User:Edison|Edison]] 17:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Vitamin Scare ==

I wanted to start to eat healthy and make sure that I was getting all the vitamins I need on a daily basis. I decided I will buy some mutlivitamins and take them during dinner everyday. However, an alternative medicine expert (well, I don't know if she is really an expert) informed me that some of the vitamins in the multivitamins are not absorbed in my body because either they need to be in another form (liquid), or they need to be taken seperately or they are counteracted by another vitmain. Also, she informed me that, in fact, some of the vitmins are too dangerous for me to take. Does anyone have any facts on this? Would it be beneficial to even bother taking these mutlivitamins? --[[User:WonderFran|WonderFran]] 19:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:See our [[Vitamin supplement]] article for general information, but do not treat it as medical advice. If you want medical advice, see your doctor. --[[User:Heron|Heron]] 20:33, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::Experts in alternative medicine are generally, by definition, not experts in actual medicine. [[User:151.152.101.44|151.152.101.44]] 21:13, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:::I do know that a lot of calcium pills are made from sea shells, and people claim those aren't easily absorbed by the body compared to other sources. But then again, the competitors of the sea shell variety claims most of that, so I'm not sure if that's even to be trusted. --[[User:Wirbelwind|Wirbelwind<small>ヴィルヴェルヴィント</small>]]&nbsp;([[User_talk:Wirbelwind|talk]]) 21:14, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:I have made some comments and given some links on the discussion page of the Vitamin supplement article. I think you should not take multivitamins but instead eat a varied and healthy diet. [[User:80.2.221.47|80.2.221.47]] 20:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== TECH CHALLENGE - The missing Ni-MH battery- Can you find one ? In america? of power to run a car? ==

Information has it that some oil companies have bought control of the company that owns the patent on the Ni-MH battery of the type that was used to power the GM EV1 and the Rav4Ev types; and are not allowing anyone to make the higher power ni-mh's (they are only allowing the smaller types that you would use in your phone, etc. The story goes that Detroit and the Oil companies are delaying the electric car (full size) because they don't want to lose the money in oil and for detroit, parts sales for ICE types.
FYI: Some RAV-4 EV's that were "saved" from the recall actually still are using the same Ni-MH "green" batteries as were original equipment and get up to 100 miles on one charge that costs about 30 cents. (GM actually had some people put in jail they say for not letting them crush their recalled cars the ev1)
To test the assertion we tried to buy a 12 volt Ni-MH battery in the USA. So far after a week, no luck. Big runaround? Everyplace says they will get back with us but either say they can't or give us phone numbers that don't work, or don't answer.
Is it true? Can anyone find a 12 volt Ni-MH battery of the power (ie 75-125 amphours) for sale? Thanks! If you can you are truly blessed. Give me the link or phone to this place. Please don't put up battery finder websites.. they never have what we need (12v @ ~100amphours). An actual link to an actual seller of that actual product is what is needed. [[User:209.16.117.50|209.16.117.50]] 20:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)[[User:209.16.117.50|209.16.117.50]] 20:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Tape 40 - Makita 3 amp-hour batteries together. If nobody has built the car, why would someone have built the battery? So I think your theory is urban legend, if that. There doesn't need to be a conspiracy to sell oil. pLenty of people want/need it. --[[User:Tbeatty|Tbeatty]]
:I'm not saying there is any conspiracy (I think it's silly, a variety of people may have their own reasons for something and may work to it, but it doesn't mean they all meet up and agree to some vast conspiracy). However to presume that just because there is a high demand for oil (which there is) means that there is no reason why those who would profit from oil won't want to try and stop developments which may lesson the demands for oil is a plain silly. If the electric car was a success (which is a big if) then it's likely it would have reduced the demand for petrol for cars and also the overall energy consumption by cars. Cars are clearly a not unsubstanial contributor to the demand for oil. It's resonable to assume then that if electric cars were successful enough, there would be a noticable drop in the demand for oil. And it's resonable to assume that the companies who make money from said oil won't want this to happen. This doesn't mean they actually did anything, but it does mean that it's a bit silly to say that because there is a large demand for oil from other sources, no one is going to care about the demand from cars [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 15:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::It's a false premise on the mistaken belief that these is a monopoly. Car companies would not halt the development of new technology because it competes with old technology. Only in a monopoly would this happen. Take the Prius. It is a huge competitive advantage to Toyota and they developed it to exploit the new market and gain market share over their competitors. Lacking in marketing foresight is not the same as inhibiting development. IF GM could build and sell a car for a profit that ran on cow dung, they would do it. The problem is that market analysis says they will not get the volume of scale necessary to support the development. Once that changes, a car maker will make the cars. GM doesn't make money by keeping the price of oil high, they make money by beating other auto manufacturers and that requires making correct investment decisions for future cars. If electric cars are viable, someone will make them and sell them (just like Toyota Prius). Sometimes prodcuts come before they are ready and they are not viable so they are cancelled (GM EV1, Apple Newton, etc). This is basic free market economics. Oil companies also compete and the are all looking for new markets. I'm just guessing, but Hydrogen cracked from petroleum will probably be the cheapest source for hydrogen batteries so batteries are potentially a huge market for oil compaines. The Green hydrogen from water will probably be the most expensive. --[[User:Tbeatty|Tbeatty]] 16:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Incidentally, "auto quality" is a historical analysis that you can use to test this theory. 20 years ago, a similar argument was made that GM/Ford/Chrysler built crappy cars on purpose because they wanted the consumer to have to buy a new car ever 2-3 years. When Japanese cars started to sell quality, it became apparent that this was not a viable strategy (if it ever was). The reason that quality was not higher was becasue consumers were indifferent to the quality differences on the car market until Honda/Toyota started selling very reliable cars and htis became a significant market segment. There are still quality differences between models but it's market segmentation that drove quality in both the current and previous generation. Competition improved the product even though on it's face it would seem each company would have lower costs if they sold crappy products. Cost is only one side of the equation and revenue is the other. Car makers will build cars if revenue-cost=significant profit over the risk free rate of return of the investment. It could be widgets, or electric cars or SUVs. --[[User:Tbeatty|Tbeatty]] 16:17, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

See also [[Electric car#Controversy]] and watch ''[[Who Killed the Electric Car?]]''. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] 01:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Does petroleum ether (or ligroin) evaporate fully? ==

I have a jar with a mixture of some lipids and either petroleum ether or ligroin (It's called "lacknafta" in swedish and I think it translates to ligroin) and I want to separate these two. If I leave the jar without a lid in a ventilated place, will all the petroleum ether or ligroin evaporate fully or will something be left behind?

[[User:Braner|Braner]] 20:40, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:Analytical grade petroleum ether should eventually evaporate completely. If there is a lot of lipid dissolved in it, the last bits of the ether may take kind of a long time to evaporate. To some extent, a careful sniff will tell you when the evaporation is complete. [[User:Ike9898|ike9898]] 20:53, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:Given that "Generally laboratory grade ligroin boils at 60 to 90 °" from [[Petroleum ether]] the evaporation could take a long time - why not use a hot water bath to encourage it.. (remember NO NAKED FLAMES, sparks, etc) please don't intoxicate/set fire to yourself..[[User:87.102.7.85|87.102.7.85]] 21:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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:Curiously swedish wiki seems to think 'lacknafta' is turps substitute? Or at least links to those pages - I'm guessing you can smell the difference between the two (petrol and turps) - possible a mistranslation of the words 'mineral spirits' which could mean either. If it is turps substitute it's going to be much more difficult to evaporate.[[User:87.102.7.85|87.102.7.85]] 21:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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::http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.woxikon.de/swe/lacknafta.php&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=9&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dlacknafta%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DN maybe it is a dual use word?
*Read our article on "[[Packaging]]". It may assist you. [[User:Graeme Bartlett|Graeme Bartlett]] ([[User talk:Graeme Bartlett|talk]]) 09:40, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
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::Ya gotta love it when a poster doesn't even try to make it look like a question they thought of on their own. Or like a question, even. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 14:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
According to the swedish national encyclopedia "lacknafta" translates to "white spirit" and some synonyms include crystal oil (kristallolja), ligroin and mineral turpentine (mineralterpentin). It contains aliphatic and aromatic hydrocarbons and it can be bought at many places, including gas stations. I don't know if anyone can help me more with this information, but thanks to those who have contributed so far.[[User:Braner|Braner]] 22:47, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::{{small|One reason: By packaging your homework question to make it look as if it is curiosity-driven, you have a much better chance of getting a useful answer. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 14:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)}}
:not sure at the moment what 'crystal oil' is but unforntunately the mineral turpentine will not evaporate well at room temperature, so the answer to the original question is no.
::Why packaging is important: try buying loose helium by weight. Or by the handful. [[User:AndyTheGrump|AndyTheGrump]] ([[User talk:AndyTheGrump|talk]]) 15:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
:(I think the 'crystal oil' may mean 'mineral oil' (mineral=crystal?)
:In certain forms [[shrinkflation]], despite selling less of a product, manufacturers keep the packaging at the original size and leave some of the space empty. This wrapping and transportation of air maintains the level of economic activity, which is important to the [[gross domestic product]]. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 21:22, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
But if I place the container in hot water under a fan? Won't that make everything evaporate?[[User:Braner|Braner]] 17:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::I'm not optimistic - the [[white spirit]] has a boiling point well over 100C, plus it being mixed with lipids may slow the evaporation, the fan would help - since the bp is higher than the bp of water spreading the mixture out on a thin plate to increase surface area may help. Your best bet would be distillation apparatus - a still.[[User:83.100.138.237|83.100.138.237]] 17:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


= May 19 =
== commercial uses of amino acids ==


== Erythema Migrans ==
I'd like to know commercial uses for amino acids other than human/animal nutrition. Are certain amino acids used a precursors for making other chemicals/drugs? Any other type of use you can think of? Thanks!! [[User:Ike9898|ike9898]] 20:50, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
: Sure, see [[Cysteine#Applications]] and [[CBS catalyst]], a proline derivative. [[User:Rockpocket|<font color="green">Rockpock</font>]]<font color="black">e</font>[[User_talk:Rockpocket|<font color="green">t</font>]] 21:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
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:::Poly[[aspartic acid]] can be used in water treatment and as a highly absorbent hydrogel. [[User:DMacks|DMacks]] 02:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::::[[Aspartame]] --[[User: Antilived|antilived]]<sup>[[User_talk:Antilived|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Antilived|C]] | [[User:Antilived/Gallery|G]]</sup> 05:45, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Aircraft speed through moving air (Title updated for clarity) ==

I remember back in grade school, we had math problems where an aircraft is moving at a certain speed in a certain direction, I'll just say 500 mph going N. And the wind speed is 100 mph going N, so the resulting speed of the airplane is 600 mph. I learned stuff like this even in college physics. Certainlly, this is a simplification, right? There has to be cases where airplanes in the air don't gain the entirety of the wind speed due to wind direction, drag, aerodynmics, etc, right? I'm thinking that if the wind is exactly behind the plane, that less speed will be granted to the airplane due to aerodynmics or something, causing some of the force of the wind to dissipate as it flows past the plane, or that if there's an angle to the wind, there has to be some sort of sine function force pushing up or down on the plane, slowing the overall speed as well. Correct me if I'm wrong please. --[[User:Wirbelwind|Wirbelwind<small>ヴィルヴェルヴィント</small>]]&nbsp;([[User_talk:Wirbelwind|talk]]) 21:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:Hmm, I'm not entirely sure what you're describing. If the plane is going 500 mph ''relative to the wind'', and the wind is going 100 mph in the same direction as the plane, then the plane is going 600 mph ''relative to the ground''. Or is it that a plane is head north at 500 mph, then a sudden gust of south wind comes in at 100 mph, raising the plane's speed with respect to the ground to 600 mph? I feel like I'm missing something here. (Oh, and no doubt strong winds do have some complicated effects on planes, if only because they alter the air speed over the wings) [[User:Skittle|Skittle]] 22:11, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:I'd think the actual variations are more the case of wind speed being very much an average. The aircraft itself is flying with respect to the air (not being ''pushed'' by the air -- the key point), wholly independent of how the air moves with respect to the ground (or how the ground moves with respect to the sun, etc, etc). It's much the same as the puzzle about the airplane taking off from a treadmill. Wind striking the side of the aircraft is a different case, of course, but I don't think that's really the same thought experiment at all.
:To consider the side effect, though -- let's take a 60-unit wind 5° off the bow-stern axis (say, a tailwind) and a 5-unit wind at right angles to the direction of flight. Before we consider the side component, one aircraft travels at X+60 (relative to ground) while the other travels at X. Now, the 5-unit side wind component of the tailwind certainly creates some drag -- say, d(5). That airplane is now moving at X+60-d(5). However, the other airplane suffers the same drag component and travels at X-d(5). Seen only from the frame of reference of the airplanes, though, both merely encounter 5-unit crosswinds. There's no way for airplane 1 to know of the tailwind unless airspeed can be compared with externally-calculated groundspeed. &mdash; [[User talk :Lomn|Lomn]] 22:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:: I think the only time it may not be accurate to sum them is very close to the ground (in [[Ground effect in aircraft|Ground effect]]). Even in that case, if there are discrepencies they will be small since the initial condition is a 100 mph wind relative to the ground. Otherwise, it's the relative mostion described above/ --[[User:Tbeatty|Tbeatty]] 22:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::I don't really know enough here, but I'd think that wind would have nowhere near that effect on it. consider a boat with a sail up - it's not going to go the same speed as the wind, because there's a lot more to it than that. And the airplane's aerodynamics would probably *stop* the wind from helping it too much, the only benefit I'd think there'd be to flying something like a jumbo jet with the wind would be less resistance. Imagine an airplane sitting on a runway, with the wind to it's back, and the wheels in neutral. Surely you wouldn't think the wind there would push it at speed, so why would it happen off the ground? There's still friction involved --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 22:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::This is why I edited in the "key point". A boat moves with respect to water. A car moves with respect to the ground. Air ''pushes'' on them as an additional force. An airplane, however, moves with respect to the air. Just as a car on a dynamometer can engage its gears at power and yet not move with respect to an external frame, an airplane can fly into a headwind and remain completely stationary with respect to the ground. Of course, for your specific example, an airplane sitting on the runway is better described as a car. One would similarly classify a minivan in freefall as an airplane and not expect anti-lock brakes to be of any use. &mdash; [[User talk :Lomn|Lomn]] 22:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::::Not really. I highly, highly, highly doubt that the friction of having wheels touching the ground would stop the wind from pushing it forward more than a literal wall of air in front of the aircraft. --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 22:38, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:::::I can't figure out where you're going with the wall-of-air thing, but the proper analogy to airplane-in-air is boat-in-water, and a boat really does move at speed+current with no appreciable "lot more to it". Talking about the thrust from a boat's sails is analogous to saying that an airplane will never reach the speed of the exhaust coming out the jet engines, which is a different question entirely. &mdash; [[User talk :Lomn|Lomn]] 00:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::Just as a note, I have heard pilots say that our flights would arrive early because of a strong [[tailwind]]. The effect might not be large on a small scale but when you are flying cross-country (as I was), perhaps it adds up. The time I remember them saying that we did arrive considerably earlier than we were predicted to, maybe an hour or so. --[[User:24.147.86.187|24.147.86.187]] 23:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:::The effect is not at all small on trans continental flights, flightpaths are designed to take as much advantage of [[jetstream]] as possible. [[User:Vespine|Vespine]] 00:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Quite. You have to put up with the winds whether you want to or not. If you pull up timetables for British Airways flights[http://www.britishairways.com/travel/schedules/public/en_gb] from London (LHR) to New York (JFK), you'll find that the average eastbound flight (''to'' London, travelling ''with'' the jetstream) is nearly forty minutes shorter than the average westbound flight (travelling against the prevailing winds). [[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]]([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]) 01:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::Skittle: Lomn was correct in that the plane is moving 500 mph in respect to the air and not to the ground. The 100 mph air would be in respect to the ground, as well as the 600 mph being in respect to the ground. And thanks everyone for helping me clear it up. As a side question though, say you arrive faster than expected due to tailwind, you can use that to directly calculate average tailwind speed, correct? It would be distance divided by time saved equals average tailwind speed, and not something like distance divided by time multiplied by some drag coefficient, right? --[[User:Wirbelwind|Wirbelwind<small>ヴィルヴェルヴィント</small>]]&nbsp;([[User_talk:Wirbelwind|talk]]) 03:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:: Specifically, what you have here is an object moving through a fluid (air counts) when the fluid is moving. As a pilot, they teach you about things like "airspeed" (the airplane's speed relative to the air), "wind speed" (the air's speed, relative to the ground) and "ground speed" (the airplane's speed, relative to the ground.) It turns out that these things '''do''' actually just add-up, the way you'd expect.

:: Imagine a checker board. You move your piece 5 spaces forward ("500 miles North.") In that same amount of time, the wind blows your piece 2 squares over ("200 miles East.") A quick bit of trig will tell you how far you moved, altogether. You don't even need the trig to know that, had the wind blown you 2 more squares North you'd be "700 miles North" from start or, if it were a headwind, you'd be only "300 miles North."

:: All of the inefficiencies in aerodynamics that have been bugging you since grade school happen ''before'' the airplane's original airspeed are calculated. That is, maybe the propeller is turning to push 525MPH of air backwards but, because of drag & whatnot, the airplane is only getting an airspeed of 500MPH. So, while there is loss like your intuition suspects, the part about the airplane going 500MPH through the air still holds.

:: ...In the idealized problem, that is. We can do similar math with real airplanes, though, and it's pretty straightfwd. We ignore propeller/jet slippage and just deal with "true airspeed" (aircraft speed relative to the air.)

:: Hope that helps! [[User:Oliepedia|Oliepedia]] 05:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Back Crack ==

What happens when you crack your back? Why does it feel good? Is it healthy or dangerous? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:151.28.233.145|151.28.233.145]] ([[User talk:151.28.233.145|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/151.28.233.145|contribs]]) 21:24, 31 July 2007 (UTC{{{3|}}})</small>

:See [[Wikipedia:Medical disclaimer]]. - [[User:Hydnjo|hydnjo]] [[User talk:Hydnjo|talk]] 22:52, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:And see [[Cracking joints]]. --Anon, July 31, 2007, 22:58 (UTC).

== Brushing teeth before breakfast ==


Hi
Hi


Does anyone have a good source for erythema migrans? I was looking for another one and can't copy (for my own notes) the Wikipedia page
I've been told that it has been "clinically proven" that brushing your teeth before you have breakfast is better than afterwards. Do you think this is true or false?

Cheers

[[User:Aaadddaaammm|Aaadddaaammm]] 22:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:depends on who's hype you believe. In theory, some toothpastes might form a 'protective shield' that would protect you from evil breakfast germs. On the other hand, toothpaste has been proven to be almost entirely bullshit, and advertisements are always bullshit. Personally, I'd say to brush your teeth after breakfast and after dinner --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 22:46, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

::Funny, "toothpaste is bullshit" appears no where in our [[toothpaste]] article. Though surprisingly there are no citations in the article discussing the purported health benefits. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] 22:55, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

:::Well, it isn't an ''active'' ingredient... --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 01:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::While many advertisements including toothpaste ones have a lot of bullshit, a claim made in an advertisement that it's been clinally shown that brushing before breakfast is better then after would probably mean there is at least one study that shows this in most developed countries (don't know about the US). It won't necessarily mean that there's been no studies showing the opposite although likely if most studies show that brushing after is better then before and you claim that it's been clinally shown before is better then after you'd be held up for deceptive advertising [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 12:52, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:See here. [http://www.emaxhealth.com/79/1063.html]

::It's not actually bullshit though. Plaque that's 24+ hours old becomes damaging to your teeth. If you can get it away without using toothpaste, be my guest. But I'm going to continue using a small amount when I brush. --[[User:Wirbelwind|Wirbelwind<small>ヴィルヴェルヴィント</small>]]&nbsp;([[User_talk:Wirbelwind|talk]]) 03:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Or we could assume that no toothpaste is used at all... In theory, brushing before you eat breakfast would accomplish brushing away any large(relative to bacteria) bacterial colonies that might have popped up overnight. Brushing after would brush away food particles that might lead to bacteria growth until you brush again. Also, brushing after would remove those previously mentioned colonies as well as the food. So let's say X = the time you would have brushed had you brushed before breakfast and Y = the time you would brush after finishing breakfast. Notwithstanding technique or other such variables, it seems that as long as the time between X and Y isn't significant, then brushing after breakfast should accomplish the same thing brushing before would have and more. However, add an antibacterial mouthwash and toothpaste to the party and you'll be cookin' with fire.[[User:Mrdeath5493|Mrdeath5493]] 06:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::But there is the added problem that, ''apparently'', brushing your teeth within half an hour of eating can damage the teeth (in the long term, if done frequently) because the enamel is more fragile straight after eating due to the mouth chemistry (pH if I recall) altering. So brushing before eating removes the plaque, so there is nothing for the sugar you eat to stick to, without removing any enamel. It doesn't remove food particles from the meal to come, but then I personally find that makes me retch! Horses for courses... [[User:Skittle|Skittle]] 20:51, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

= August 1 =

== The Nile River ==

Is there a current consensus about the "true" source of the [[White Nile]]? Is it in Rwanda or in Burundi?

== Help!!!!!anyone help me anwser this question....i have an exam juz few hours to go....i nid the anwser as quick as possible ==

this is a practice b4 exam...the question goes like this:

Why do aquatic veterbrates have smaller skeletons than land vertebrates?

although this question might not pop up during the exam but i was curious to noe the anwser...
this question was found in the notes given by the teacher.

[[User:60.48.92.187|60.48.92.187]] 01:38, 1 August 2007 (UTC)zhiting

:As the top of the page says, '''Do your own homework'''. Although this should be really, really, really obvious --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 01:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::That seems harsh... the questioner isn't asking for help with homework, but with studying. And we don't know his or her age or background. To the questioner: try looking at [[buoyancy]] and [[skeleton]]. --[[User:Amcbride|Allen]] 01:53, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:::It is homework, though. It has nothing to do with age or background, just thinking about it scientifically would lead you to "What's different about these two creatures?" which would you lead you to the obvious answer --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 01:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::::Well part of what the class is probably trying to teach them is to "think scientifically" which clearly the poster can't do (how easy it is to forget that we didn't all think scientifically once! how quickly we take as natural what took centuries for humans to develop!). I don't think there's anything wrong with just pointing them in the right direction. --[[User:24.147.86.187|24.147.86.187]] 02:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:::::And in that direction...try thinking about the purpose of a skeleton, and the different needs the two types of animals would have for anything that fulfilled that purpose. [[User:Someguy1221|Someguy1221]] 02:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::::::Too late for the exam now, but is this statement even true? Does it mean as a proportion of body weight? After all, the largest vertebrates are blue whales and their skeletons are enormous! I would suggest though, lightness for buoyancy, and the natural support of the water means not as much strength is needed in the skeleton. [[User:Cyta|Cyta]] 07:10, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::Cyta: yes. From what I remember talking to a friend (who keeps fish and knows everything anyway), most fish have far less dense or narrower bones than we do, because they're underwater, they don't have to support as much weight. The above link to buoyancy would help here. Although, you are correct, that whales have much much larger skeletons than we do, proportionally. --'''[[User talk:L|L]]'''<small>[[User:L|onging....]]</small> 11:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Blindness from birth affecting how one learns body language, etc.? ==

I have been searching, including on your pages regarding autism spectrum disorders and congenital blindness, and I'm still a little confused. Is body language something learned through observing others in the first few months of life? And, if it is, how is it that blind people are able to pick up, if not all the visual cues, at least enough nonverbal cues to not be labeled as having a [[PDD]], if they can't see to pick up those cues? Is it the context of a situation that blind and visually impaired people can pick up if they don't have an autism spectrum disorder? Or, do most visually impaired people also lack some social skills based on the fact they'd can't pick up body language well? I know a few, and they seem to be okay with social situations, though of course they have to be told if someone is leaving a room, etc.. I would think the problems with social skills, making friends, etc., with those with autism spectrum problems would be all traced back to the inability to read such langauge.[[User:DTF955|DTF955]] 02:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::I think you are making several quite large assumptions. One factor that you seem not to be taking into consideration is just how highly a sight able person would modify their own behaviour and their body language knowing they are interacting with a blind person. I imagine a person who is aware that their visual queues are not being recognised would most likely offer a more then compensatory lenience in that regard. [[User:Vespine|Vespine]] 06:07, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Good point - being partly blind myself, I guess I don't really consider how that would differ fromt he way a sighted person would do it. (Or, maybe I have a PDD :-)

== Amesbury Archer had unusual configuration to the bones in his feet. ==

Apparently the body buried near the Archer is presumed to be a relative because they shared this configuration.

"An analysis of the bones later showed that he and the Archer were related as they both had the same unusual bone structure in their feet – the heel bone had a joint with one of the upper tarsal bones in the foot."

Is there a diagram of what this looked like? How unusual or rather, how common would this be in the human population? Have other examples of this trait been discovered in other ancient skeletons? If so, which ones?

Is this trait common to a particular group of people or region of the world?

[[User:Weaver137|Weaver137]] 03:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:It is not clear from the [[Amesbury Archer]] article and what's available from the [http://www.wessexarch.co.uk/projects/amesbury/archer.html Wessex Archaelogy] website exactly what the variation seen is. It appears to involve the [[calcaneus]] (heel bone) and [[navicular]], a bone on the instep side of the foot. This is called calcaneonavicular coalition. If it is a complete fusion ([[synostosis]]), it is exceedingly rare ( 0.03%). If it is a partial articulation ([[synchondrosis]] or [[syndesmosis]]), it would occur about 5.6% of people.[http://radiology.rsnajnls.org/cgi/content/full/230/2/493] It is not specific to people from a region, but there is a heritable aspect to their occurrence, especially the 0.03% event. There are radiographic images in the link above, but they are seen from a 45 degree angle, so they look odd. [http://astro.ocis.temple.edu/~rchristm/TeachFiles/TarsalCoalition/TarsCoal.htm Here] are another few images. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 05:14, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::I believe that when I saw a scientist describing how they thought they were related, she talked about the condition appearing in only 5% of the population, making it 'likely' that the 2 were related, since they both had it. This points to the 2nd condition that FlyGuy points out. I'm pretty certain of my memory because I remember thinking that it wasnt really very conclusive, although likely. [[User:Capuchin|Capuchin]] 09:55, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::I guess further to my and Capuchin's comments, the chance of two random people found together with this condition is 5%x5% = 0.25%, which is pretty small although not beyond the realms of possibility. The argument that they are related likely has to do not only with this statistical probability, but also with respect to their features. I believe they had the same colour hair. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 13:57, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Wormholes ==

What is the debate about wormholes? What do scientists and people think about wormholes?[[User:Invisiblebug590|Invisiblebug590]] 04:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:Have you read [[wormhole]]? --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 04:47, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:The physics pretty much says that they could exist - but we have never found one and we know we couldn't possibly create one - so as a practical matter, they aren't all that interesting. (except of course to SciFi writers!) [[User:SteveBaker|SteveBaker]] 10:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::I found one yesterday, in an apple of all places. [[User:Gzuckier|Gzuckier]] 14:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::Had you already eaten half of the apple with no sign of the worm in what remained? [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 15:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

==Solar Cells==

Hi, just wondering if someone can answer this question (I've had a look at the [[solar cell]] article but it doesn't quite make sense. I understand about the n-p junction and the zone of depletion, and what when a photon is absorbed by the semiconductor is produces both an electron and a positive hole (because the electron is promoted to the conduction band, leaving a positive hole in its wake), and that because of the positive/negative charges on the n/p halves the electron will be attracted to the n half and the positive hole will be attracted to the p half. BUT, why do electrons flow through an external circuit, why doesn't the diffusion just occur within the cell, and how come in most diagrams I've looked at the electrons flow through the external circuit from the n to the p half, effectively travelling from a region of conventional high potential to a region of conventional low potential (the opposite direction to which they should be travelling)?. Thanks [[User:Guycalledryan|Guycalledryan]] 05:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:Once the pair has separated, the n side has one more electron and the p side one fewer than before. Since with no current flow (a dark cell) the potential at the two ends of the cell must be the same, with the new arrivals the potential at the n end is now lower than at the p end. Since electrons flow "uphill", an electron at the very end of the n region (there are plenty there!) and a hole from the end of the p region traverse the wire and the load and annihilate somewhere outside the cell. This is simply the path of least resistance: the depletion zone is an insulator, so the restorative current flows through the load instead. --[[User:Tardis|Tardis]] 15:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== human anatomy ==

some anatomical part that begins with the letter y
:See [[List of subjects in Gray's Anatomy: Alphabetical: Y]] (plus you might also find some [[Yersinia]] bacteria in a human body) and [[List of acupuncture points]] has quite a lot that start with y. <span style="background:lightgrey;font-family:Courier;border:2px dashed #000;">[[User:JMiall|<font color="purple">JMiall</font>]][[User talk:JMiall|<font color="red">₰</font>]]</span> 12:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:'''Y'''our arm, '''y'''our leg, '''y'''our head, '''y'''our foot and so on and so forth :P [[User:Lanfear's Bane|Lanfear&#39;s Bane]] 12:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:[[Y chromosome]]. FYI, the reason you won't find many such words is that in [[ancient Greek]], from which most English anatomical terms are derived, a word starting with [[Upsilon|Y]] was always spoken with a "[[rough breathing]]", which means it would be transliterated into our [[Roman alphabet]] with an initial "H". This explains why there are so many medical words beginning with "hy" and almost none beginning with "y". --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 13:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::[[Eye|yeux]] (if you're French). [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 14:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== natural abundance ==

I need to learn how to compute the natural abundance of an isotope. Anyone wanna share? --[[User:MKnight9989|MKnight9989]] 13:49, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:The [[natural abundance]] of an isotope is just how much of it is found somewhere (in the universe, in the solar system, on the Earth, in Iowa, etc.). You can't compute it any more than you can compute "how long is a piece of string?"; you just have to measure it. --[[User:TotoBaggins|TotoBaggins]] 14:08, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::If you don't want to measure it, you can look up terrestrial values in a table such as [http://physics.nist.gov/cgi-bin/Compositions/stand_alone.pl?ele=&ascii=html&isotype=some this one]. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 14:12, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::As much as I'd love to, I have to know how to calculate myself for school. Thanks anyway though. --[[User:MKnight9989|MKnight9989]] 14:50, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::::Using the table linked to by Physchim, Standard Atomic Weight = the sum of [(Relative Atomic Mass of isotope 1(RMA1) x Isotopic Composition of isotope 1(IC1)) + (RMA2 x IC2) + ...]. I'll let you plug in the values, and figure out what you have to do if you are given different variables. Using Helium as an example may be the simplest. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 15:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== Frog ==

In Upstate New York in the Catskill Mountains, I often catch and release a kind of frog that are simmilar (but not the same) in shape and colouring to the leopard frog, but much smaller. Anyone have any ideas on what kind of frog it might be? If so, thanks a lot! --[[User:Gbgg89|Gbgg89]] 14:48, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:Federal forest service lists the following toads/frogs in the area: [[American toad]], [[green frog]], [[gray treefrog]], [[northern spring peeper]], and [[Fowler's toad]]. -- [[User:Kainaw|Kainaw]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:Kainaw|(what?)]]</sup></small> 14:53, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

::There are other frogs found in New York state than listed above. The species closest in appearance to the Leopard Frog (''Lithobates pipiens'') is the Pickerel Frog (''Lithobates palustris''). It is similar to the Leopard Frog, but the dark brown spots are more rectangular than circular, and it is smaller with an average body length of 2.5 inches (as opposed to the Leopard that is 3-4 inches). Check out the website at nyfalls.com/wildlife for a complete list of New York amphibians. --[[User:Eriastrum|Eriastrum]] 17:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

:::Thank you so much! Yes, the Pickerel Frog is the frog that I have caught there. I have been wondering what it was for a while, so thank you so much! --[[User:Gbgg89|Gbgg89]] 20:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

== residue left when bleach dries ==

Help please!!!!!


When belach dries it leaves a white crystline residue. My boss wants it removed from painted surfaces, ceramic tile and chrome. Any suggestions that will save minimum paid employees hours and hours of scrubbing uselessly to remove the stuff?


[[User:W&#59;ChangingUsername|W&#59;ChangingUsername]] ([[User talk:W&#59;ChangingUsername|talk]]) 19:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
Many thanks on any help that you can give.
:[[Erythema migrans]]. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 20:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
:Don't you mean [[Crime boss|The Boss]]? *joking* [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 15:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::I just came from there. The article isnt very good im sorry [[User:W&#59;ChangingUsername|W&#59;ChangingUsername]] ([[User talk:W&#59;ChangingUsername|talk]]) 21:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
:::[https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C14&q=%22Erythema+Migrans%22+%22review%22&btnG= This Google Scholar search] reduces the number of results from 19,400 to 11,900 by adding the term "review". <span style="font-family: Cambria;"> [[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 11:10, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
::::Thank you :)
::::I'll probably start using this for everything [[User:W&#59;ChangingUsername|W&#59;ChangingUsername]] ([[User talk:W&#59;ChangingUsername|talk]]) 18:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 20 =
:On a more serious note, does ordinary water not work? Perhaps you should try a greater dilution? [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 15:42, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::It is possible the bleach has etched or corroded the surfaces rather than left a residue. [[User:Lanfear's Bane|Lanfear&#39;s Bane]]
:::use a bathroom cleaner such as [[vim (cleaning product)]] or [[flash]], [[cif]] whatever you call it, plus water - you'll still need to scrub.[[User:83.100.138.237|83.100.138.237]] 16:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


== Can testosterone boost/etc... change someone desire from responsive to spontaneous? ==
== White stuff on old batteries ==


Can testosterone boost/etc... change someone desire from responsive to spontaneous?[[Special:Contributions/177.207.104.19|177.207.104.19]] ([[User talk:177.207.104.19|talk]]) 01:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
Are the white crystalline residues on old batteries harmful?
:What do you mean? ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 01:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:It's probably some of the electrolyte and generally won't be that harmful but I would recommend you wash your hands afterwards and definitely don't lick it. But for more info, you need to say what old batteries? Alkaline? Lead acid (car etc batteries)? NiMH? NiCad? Li-ion? Lithium? Zinc-carbon? Where on the old batteries? Terminals? External covering? On the electrodes (for lead acid batteries)? [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] 15:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::<small>See [[Sexual desire]] and various other related articles, which you could have found easily by putting 'responsive desire' into the search box of this encyclopedia. You often post similar nonproductive responses to things which you personally have not heard of, although many others have: it becomes tedious. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.2.67.173|94.2.67.173]] ([[User talk:94.2.67.173|talk]]) 11:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
::Just a regular AA battery. I left them in my wireless mouse for long after they were dead. The stuff was most abundant around the metal +/- things where the batteries connect to the device. Some actually creeped outside the battery container. [[User:128.163.224.198|128.163.224.198]] 16:29, 1 August 2007 (UTC)(original poster)
::::I see no harm in trying to encourage posters to link to what they're asking about. ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 12:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:::If they were alkaline it's probably potassium carbonate - slightly corrosive and not for eating as said above, it's a good idea to clean it out of your mouse (use wet rag, then dry) as it can encourage further corrosion of the terminals. No more harmful than strong floor cleaner...[[User:83.100.138.237|83.100.138.237]] 16:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:::::To be fair, there was a non-zero chance that it referred to a responsive to spontaneous change in the desire to fight strangers. [[User:Sean.hoyland|Sean.hoyland]] ([[User talk:Sean.hoyland|talk]]) 13:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
::::::Theoretically. The funny thing is that the first sentence of 94.2.67.173's lecture to me could just as easily have served as a direct response to the poster. (Though maybe that was the point anyway!) ←[[User:Baseball Bugs|Baseball Bugs]] <sup>''[[User talk:Baseball Bugs|What's up, Doc?]]''</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Baseball_Bugs|carrots]]→ 14:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC) </small>


::You may be thinking of the [[Dopamine receptor D5|DRD5]] gene, where some alleles are thought to be involved in spontaneity or lack thereof. <span style="font-family: Cambria;"> [[User:Abductive|<span style="color: teal;">'''Abductive'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Abductive|reasoning]])</span> 11:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
== Entry of blood from marrow to circulatory system ==
:::Our article doesn't mention that, but implicates it in everything else: learning and memory, addiction, smoking, ADHD, Parkinson's disease, schizophrenia, locomotion, regulation of blood pressure, and immunity. What a busy gene. I guess you're referencing something along the lines of dopamine being important for the will to initiate movement, like in [[Awakenings]]. [[User:Card_Zero|<span style=" background-color:#fffff0; border:1px #995; border-style:dotted solid solid dotted;">&nbsp;Card&nbsp;Zero&nbsp;</span>]]&nbsp;[[User_talk:Card_Zero|(talk)]] 21:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:According to [https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-012-9946-2 this review article], "{{tq|of the few studies on T}}[estosterone] {{tq|and desire in healthy women ... dyadic desire}} [desire in sex with a partner] {{tq|has shown null or negative correlations with T}}". This suggests it is unlikely to achieve the specific effect. &nbsp;--[[User talk:Lambiam#top|Lambiam]] 08:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


== [[Gregory Cochran]] ==
How does blood generated in bone marrow enter into the circulatory system? [[User:Morton00|Morton00]] 16:46, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


Has Gregory M. Cochran worked for [[Darpa]]? If so, in what capacity, if known?[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 21:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
:[[Bone]]s aren't simply dead things; they contain a matrix of living cells and these cells have the usual blood supply that connects with the rest of the [[circulatory system]]. So marrow cells also have access to the circulatory system.
:[https://www.edge.org/memberbio/gregory_cochran This Gregory Cochran] would be a likely candidate, but I could find no direct evidence to support this. This [[Gregory Cochran|Gregory M. Cochran]] seems less likely. There was a '[https://webarchive.library.unt.edu/eot2008/20090114015859/http:/www.darpa.gov/coinlog.html Doug Cochran]' at DARPA, however. --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 01:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
::I bet those 2 Gregory Cochrans are the same.[[User:Richard L. Peterson|Rich]] ([[User talk:Richard L. Peterson|talk]]) 02:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
::: You're correct: they each are "co-author of the book ''The 10,000 Year Explosion''." That ''Edge'' link could be used as a source for updating the article. --[[Special:Contributions/136.54.106.120|136.54.106.120]] ([[User talk:136.54.106.120|talk]]) 05:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


= May 21 =
:[[User:Atlant|Atlant]] 17:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


== Butterflies of Daviess County, KY (Papilionidae) ==
Understood. It's the path that the blood takes that I wonder about. Is the bone porous enough? Do arteries and veins enter the bone at some point?
::Bones are filled with blood vessels. They travel in longitudinal and transvers "canals". See images at [[Bone#Macrostructure]], for example. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 19:24, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


In [[Daviess County]], [[Kentucky]] (or generally along the [[Ohio River]] or within a reasonable distance south thereof), how late in the year was the latest-ever sighting of ''Papilio glaucus''? (Here in Central California, all tiger swallowtail species disappear in the first days of September -- my latest confirmed sighting of ''P. multicaudata'' was on September 1, and of ''P. rutulus'' on September 4 -- is it more-or-less the same over there?) Asking for a local and/or an expert -- and '''no pictures, please'''! [[Special:Contributions/2601:646:8082:BA0:250E:98C8:7461:C819|2601:646:8082:BA0:250E:98C8:7461:C819]] ([[User talk:2601:646:8082:BA0:250E:98C8:7461:C819|talk]]) 02:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
== How many human diseases are there? ==


:The pool of active RefDesk editors is quite small and is spread around the Anglosphere (or sometimes outside of it), so finding anyone from that locality or an entomologist here is a bit unlikely. A Google search only found [https://www.backyardecology.net/eastern-tiger-swallowtail-butterflies/ backyardecology.net - ''Eastern Tiger Swallowtail Butterflies''] (with pictures) which says: "In Kentucky, we typically see the adults flying from April until September". [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 14:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Any numbers/estimates?[[User:128.163.224.198|128.163.224.198]] 16:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


:Broadening the topic somewhat, you might be interested (if you aren't already familiar with it) by the subject of [[Phenology]]. Climate change is obviously having a large influence on previously reliable annual timings of natural phenomena: in my part of the world (southern England), many trees are blooming, etc., up to a month earlier than a few decades ago. Doubtless the emergence, migrations and numbers of annual broods of insects are also changing, so they can appear later as well as earlier. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} [[Special:Contributions/94.2.67.173|94.2.67.173]] ([[User talk:94.2.67.173|talk]]) 09:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
:A way to get an estimate is to look at ICD9 codes. They codify each disease and subsection of diseases. If you can find a count of how many ICD9 (or ICD10) codes there are, you'll have an estimate for the number of diseases. -- [[User:Kainaw|Kainaw]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:Kainaw|(what?)]]</sup></small> 17:04, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


== Pseudouridine - why is it the fifth nucleotide? ==
== Trolleybus/Trackless Trolley ==


I saw that in the scientific literature, pseudouridine is considered the fifth nucleotide. For example:[https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27348156/], [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37341888/]. My question is why is it called the fifth and not the sixth? To the best of my knowledge, when pseudouridine was discovered in the 1950's, the known nucleotides were: A,C,T,G,U = five nucleotides. So why isn't pseudouridine the sixth nucleotide? Thanks [[Special:Contributions/2A01:6500:A042:E52F:970A:37C0:5DE7:C30E|2A01:6500:A042:E52F:970A:37C0:5DE7:C30E]] ([[User talk:2A01:6500:A042:E52F:970A:37C0:5DE7:C30E|talk]]) 11:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Can a trolleybus run off from underneath the transmission wires above? What happens if this occurs? How is it reattached to the electrical distribution system? Thanks. - [[User:MSTCrow|MSTCrow]] 19:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:It happens frequently, often at junctions for the wires, IIRC. The bus stops quickly, the driver gets out and replaces the [[trolley pole]]s onto the wire. (there are spring-loaded ropes at the back of the trolley that attach to the poles that the driver uses to pull down and move the poles. You can see them in this [[:Image:Translink-2744.jpg]]) Because there are two poles, one is usually stowed first. It takes about a minute. [[User:Flyguy649|Flyguy649]] [[User talk:Flyguy649|<sup>talk]]</sup> [[Special:Contributions/Flyguy649|<sub>contribs]]</sub> 19:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)


:The original paper seems to be the 1956 publication [[doi:10.1016/S0021-9258(18)70770-9]] which, in Table 1, shows they only considered A,G,C and U as known in RNA at that time. [[User:Michael D. Turnbull|Mike Turnbull]] ([[User talk:Michael D. Turnbull|talk]]) 15:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
== Type of thought disorder? ==


= May 22 =
I was wondering if there was a recognized type of thought or general disorder where the afflicted had uncontrollable thoughts. The types of thoughts could include reoccurring phrases and other things that annoy the afflicted person or that they disagree with. Sorry for the ambiguity.
--[[User:74.97.142.249|74.97.142.249]] 20:30, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
:There's a WP article on [[intrusive thoughts]]. Haven't read it myself. --[[User:Trovatore|Trovatore]] 20:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
::Thanks Trovatore, that seems like a good place to start. --[[User:74.97.142.249|74.97.142.249]] 20:54, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

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May 8[edit]

Patient 18[edit]

Hi everyone, I hope that all of you are fine. Friends, I saw an interview on YouTube with a young man who is at a mental hospital in California (it was in 1961) and it's a famous interview. He has schizophrenia, and talks about his dreams of becoming a piano teacher.

My question is as follows, is his 1961 diagnosis still a criteria for commitment to a psychiatric facility? Have the laws/criteria changed?

Thank you and excuse ignorance, as I'm no professional on any of these fields. CoryGlee (talk) 11:15, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The laws and their interpretations differ from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, but I think that the general principle is that involuntary commitment to a psychiatric hospital requires a determination that the patient is mentally incapable of taking care of themself or is a danger to themself or others. Many (perhaps most) people who are diagnosed with schizophrenia can nevertheless take care of their own affairs and present no danger to others.  --Lambiam 20:35, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How short could the beta-decay half-life of a nuclide be?[edit]

Even the most neutron-rich nuclides like 19B has a half-life of >1 ms. Theoretically speaking, could a nuclide's beta-decay half-life reach <1 ms? Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 11:55, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It can, but extremally neutron rich nuclei tend to decay by emitting neutrons, which makes beta decay difficult to observe. Ruslik_Zero 12:08, 8 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Many nuclides are known with beta decay half lives under a millisecond. Thulium-180, to pick one example, decays 100% by beta- decay, and has a half life of 0.3 ms. If you want to explore the landscape, the table of nuclides here [1] is a good place to start. Anything in light blue decays primarily by beta- decay, and the farther you get from the central "valley of stability" the shorter the half lives tend to become. PianoDan (talk) 04:54, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For a number of nuclides, though – including 180Tm – the half-life has not been measured directly and only lower bounds have been reported. But there's nothing in theory that prevents beta decay with a half-life shorter than 1 millisecond, aside from competition from other decay modes. The shortest I've seen in {{NUBASE2020}} is a half-life of 1.5±0.5 ms for 35Na, though that is only 1 from the 1-ms boundary. Complex/Rational 15:14, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 9[edit]

LED lighting dimmer switch[edit]

Can you tell me about this? Does it it exist yet?

I now have parrot bird with red eyes and if you turn the light on from dark to light it drops him on his back. So I can't use LED bulbs in his room. Because previously I used a dimmer to bring light up gradually. Can you tell me? Thank you. Iqbal. 146.200.107.107 (talk) 02:15, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. They exist. I just went to the web site of my local hardware store, searched for "led dimmer switch" and found several. HiLo48 (talk) 02:25, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are also dimmable LED light bulbs that can be used with most types of dimmer.[2]  --Lambiam 06:02, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are also led light bars that can be programmed for a gradually changing brightness and colour to simulate sunrise and sunset. Some even support simulating random clouds passing in front of the sun and the occasional thunderstorm with lightning. Aquarium lights tend to have such features. PiusImpavidus (talk) 12:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note that dimmable LEDs don't dim the same way incandescents do.
When incandescents dim, a lower level of power continues to be continuously conducted through the filament. The lower power produces less light.
LEDs don't really have variable brightness in response to different levels of power the same way incandescents do. Instead, they're dimmed by flickering them on and off at an extremely high frequency. The frequency is too high for our eyes/brains to perceive the flickering; but since they're not on all the time, less total light is emitted.
In order to respond to a decrease in power this way, the LED bulb needs to have specialized hardware in its base. So you'll have to buy special "dimmable" LED bulbs. I've had very mixed experiences with these, fwiw, and some that are nominally dimmable don't dim well or at all. Others produce extremely unpleasant light at lower levels. -- Avocado (talk) 20:33, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically, incandescent lights (is there anyone still using those? They've been banned in the EU for over a decade) can be dimmed by reducing the root-mean-square voltage over the filament. This lowers the light output, makes it redder and lowers the efficiency. Leds have constant colour and the brightness is controlled by electronically controlling the average current. Pulse-width modulation appears to be the simplest efficient way to control the average current. Dimmable led lights have some electronics that take the input voltage as a cue to change pulse width. Flicker is invisible to humans, but may appear when there's some beating with another periodic process of similar frequency (spinning things, cameras). A simple low-pass filter would eliminate the flicker. PiusImpavidus (talk) 07:54, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you can still buy incandescents in the US. They keep partially walking back the bans. And they're still allowed for specialty purposes (like heat lamps and candelabras), and maybe at low wattages? I've also recently seen incandescent bulbs with purportedly higher efficiency than old ones being sold in places -- I'd be unsurprised if our regulations are weak. And maybe leftover inventory is still allowed to be sold? Small retailers I think get them under the table from ... somewhere. If you search a major hardware store's site, you'll find a selection still for sale. Here's what we've got on the topic. -- Avocado (talk) 13:17, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The flicker fusion threshold of birds is much higher than humans, up to 140 Hz (see this article). So a dimmed LED light that looks merely dim to us may appear to be flickering to a bird. I can imagine that that might be as unpleasant to a bird as a flickering light is to humans. Maybe some LEDs have a phosphorescent coating that absorbs and reemits the light after a delay, thus temporally buffering the light output, which might settle the parrot. Otherwise perhaps it is better to dull the light using a translucent screen or by reflecting the light off a surface. JMCHutchinson (talk) 11:43, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, even as a human (hello, fellow humans!), I find dimmed LEDs to produce a very unpleasant light. I wonder if we can detect the flickering subconsciously even if we consciously can't? There's a theory that we can with fluorescents (which flicker even at full brightness), causing a bit of dysphoria in flourescent-lit spaces. -- Avocado (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have noticed that I can sometimes see flicker with peripheral vision that I can't when looking directly: aaand I see this is mentioned in the article. Flicker fusion threshold may also be of interest. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.175.176 (talk) 14:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ambivert vs. omnivert[edit]

Is there a difference between ambivert and omnivert, or are these the same? 2601:646:8082:BA0:24BD:2FE2:B975:68AE (talk) 06:13, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Saucedo, Kayla (29 January 2024). "Ambivert Vs. Omnivert". simplypsychology.org. Simply Scholar Ltd. --136.54.106.120 (talk) 16:08, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks! So, an ambivert is someone who's near the middle of the scale all the time, whereas an omnivert is someone who goes from full extrovert to full introvert and everything in between? 2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450 (talk) 02:45, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Some researchers have questioned the validity of personality tests.[3][4][5] I doubt that the validity of the specific labels ambivert and omnivert has been seriously studied; they may be pure pop-psych products. Also, even when valid, it can be questioned whether all this labeling isn't more harmful than beneficial.[6]  --Lambiam 08:29, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you're not also questioning the validity of the labels extrovert and introvert, are you??? And if these are valid terms (which they are), then we also need a term for someone who's in the middle of the scale! 2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7 (talk) 23:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do we also need a term to label people who are halfway between introvert and omnivert? One problem with these personality tests is that they do not depend on a person's actual behaviour, but on their self-reported interpretation of their self-imagined behaviour in hypothetical, vaguely described situations. Validity as a personality label requires IMO consistent reproducibility over time, not of such self-reports, but of actual behaviour in a context of actual situations. I don't expect this stuff will be able to hold itself up well against the scientific method.  --Lambiam 06:34, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did you not read any part of this section other than your own comments??? First of all, as already explained above, the definition of omnivert is not that of someone occupying a certain position on the scale, but someone who fluctuates between extroversion and introversion, and hence there can be no "halfway" between omnivert and anything else! And as for the others, yes we do need specific terms for the far ends of the scale and also for the middle -- this is standard for any property which exists along a continuum! Also, I've personally taken both the ocean test and the MBTI test, and I can tell you, the situations described in the current versions are quite specific and mostly applicable to real life (at the very least, with the disclaimer that I'm one of the most pronounced introverts ever, I had no problems with the questions being "vague" or not applicable to me personally), so your criticism of these tests (at least in their current versions) is completely misplaced! And, as far as your demands for observation of "actual behaviour" (your emphasis, not mine), this would require a Big Brother-style system of constant and pervasive surveillance of your test subjects, which is completely impractical, highly illegal and unethical, and would itself introduce bias into your observations should your test subjects become aware of it (due to them modifying their own behavior to conform to perceived social norms out of fear of judgment) -- so, the stuff you propose wouldn't be able to hold itself up against the scientific method either (not to mention that it would most likely be disallowed on legal and ethical grounds)! 2601:646:8082:BA0:C178:97BE:AF93:9928 (talk) 09:41, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You yourself wrote, "we also need a term for someone who's in the middle of the scale", i.e., between "the labels extrovert and introvert". This is what the term ambivert purports to signify. I responded to the claim of this need, wondering why there should be a need to label the extremes and one point in the middle, but not other points on the scale?  --Lambiam 20:12, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because then all of the other points on the scale can be visualized and described in relation to these 3 points -- whereas if only the two extremes were labeled, then it would not adequately describe those who are close to the middle! 2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D (talk) 11:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not if they agree to it first, IP-hopper. As to this "omnivert" notion, it could be called "situational". Many people are more comfortable in certain settings than in other settings. That's "normal". ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe if they give fully informed consent it might be legal, but then you run into the other problem I mentioned (which you conveniently ignored) -- if they know they're being watched, they won't act like their normal selves (and the more you watch them, the more they'll put their guard up), so you won't see their "actual behaviour" in "actual situations", and you'll get skewed results! 2601:646:8082:BA0:28E6:4E7D:4BB4:DD49 (talk) 20:01, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That would be tragic. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is just how people work -- and that is the reason why self-reporting of actual behavior is the best you can get in terms of data! 2601:646:8082:BA0:692F:1147:32D5:BCAA (talk) 01:54, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cultural anthropologists study actual behaviour. They don't go around handing out questionnaires.  --Lambiam 07:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is in the realm of psychology, though, not anthropology (cultural or otherwise) -- which brings up yet a third problem with your proposed methodology, that merely observing the behavior of your test subjects will not reveal what's going on inside their head at the time, and thereby also give you inaccurate results! (For example, an introvert like me might be forced against his/her will to attend an office party and even to mingle with other people thereat (and even to feign cheerfulness while doing so), which your methodology will register as extroverted behavior and will simply not see how miserable it makes him/her -- or, just to cover both sides, an extrovert might be forced to spend time working or studying alone, which your methodology will register as introverted behavior and not see how much he/she hates it!) And you still haven't answered how you would counter the observer effect (which, in this scenario, would manifest itself on a very macroscopic scale due to the fact that, as I already said, many people simply won't act like their own natural selves when they know they're being watched all the time)! 2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D (talk) 11:07, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And also, I see a fourth problem with this kind of methodology, and that has to do with sample selection bias -- introverts are far less likely to volunteer for an experiment in which their actual behavior would be monitored, especially if this includes being monitored inside their own homes, and the more introverted a person is the more likely he/she would refuse to take part in such an experiment (as an introvert from the deepest end of the scale, I personally know I would refuse without thinking twice), so you'll get a sample which is skewed toward extroversion, and that would also give you inaccurate or incomplete results! (This, indeed, is one area in which the current methodology of anonymous self-reported personality tests with hypothetical questions about various social situations is superior to any other suggested here -- there is something inherently reassuring about knowing that only me and the machine see the actual personal responses, especially for an introvert like me -- and this makes it better in terms of reducing sample bias than even self-reporting of actual behavior, because the latter cannot easily be reduced to a machine-processable series of multiple-choice questions and would require short-answer questions to be interpreted by a human psychologist, and knowing that an actual human sees your individual responses and your identifying data is much harder to swallow, especially given that being judged by a psychologist might (sometimes) have real-world consequences!) 2601:646:8082:BA0:2D37:9C1D:9DB2:251E (talk) 13:36, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 10[edit]

Insect repellent[edit]

Do all pyrethrin analogs have broad-spectrum insect repellent properties in less-than-lethal concentrations? 2601:646:8082:BA0:CD56:E11E:9CF:F450 (talk) 01:56, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It says here that "Before the emergence of resistance, an early hut trial in The Gambia concluded that permethrin was the most repellent pyrethroid, followed by λ-cyhalothrin, deltamethrin, and lastly cypermethrin". This suggests that there must be some in the list of 29 examples in the pyrethroid article that are much worse repellents. I would guess that the stronger the odor, the better the repellent effect. Abductive (reasoning) 08:38, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pyrethroids were designed to kill insects and are used, for example, to control malaria-carrying mosquitoes by treating bed-nets. In this and other agricultural applications, repellence is an unwanted property particularly if the non-lethal effect allows insect populations to build up resistance. There are, of course, compounds designed to act only as insect repellents, of which the best known are probably DEET and citronellal. Mike Turnbull (talk) 10:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! So, not all of them, but many of the common ones -- which is great for me (they're painting my front door today, so I have to enforce a no-fly zone outside it :-( ) And yes, last time I've personally witnessed the repellent effect of 200 ppm deltamethrin against Papilio multicaudata (or maybe it was a large P. rutulus, but my money is on the former) and P. eurymedon, as well as multiple Apocrita species! (The repellent effect, indeed, is what I'm looking for here -- I don't care if the bugs survive or die, I just don't want them to fly into the house or get anywhere near me!) 2601:646:8082:BA0:59E2:271:87C3:F3E (talk) 14:07, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, one of the two cans I used today had a mixture of prallethrin and cyfluthrin which was specifically formulated as an insect repellent, so we can add these two to the list as well -- although, from personal observation, their repellent effect was actually less than that of deltamethrin! 2601:646:8082:BA0:448D:8CB2:2FBC:B6C7 (talk) 00:12, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


May 12[edit]

ecological spray bottle[edit]

does anyone know if there are any glass or metal spray bottles with bioplastic triggers and straw available anywhere in existence? i really want to go plastic free for my succulent business ninosckasnaturals.com 2600:1700:9758:7D90:B406:C016:3BC0:D48B (talk) 06:05, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe one of those old-fashioned perfume misters with the rubber squeeze bulb? I doubt very much that there is a mass-produced non-plastic alternative spray bottle apparatus. Abductive (reasoning) 21:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are pump-type plant misters (e.g. metal or glass). --136.54.106.120 (talk) 18:27, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
P.s.: LOOPSEED sells stainless steel plant mister spray bottles in various finishes, well-suited for succulents (search online for details). --136.54.106.120 (talk) 18:49, 13 May 2024 (UTC) -- [edit: 22:33, 13 May 2024 (UTC)][reply]

origin of the formula for LC frequency[edit]

In electricity, properties known as inductance and capacitance together can resonate. The formula for the frequency of resonance is 1/(2*Pi*SQRT(L*C)). Who first published this formula? ```` Dionne Court (talk) 06:33, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Somewhat after Laplace 1800 and before Poincarre, 1899 with a strong suspicion that the ubiquitous Maxwell might have done it. Greglocock (talk) 06:57, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to LC_circuit#History it was the ubiquitous Lord Kelvin in 1853. --Wrongfilter (talk) 07:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That man did everything. Greglocock (talk) 23:49, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It does say that, but it is incorrect, which is why I posted here. Kelvin derived an equation to describe the transient response (response to a one-time shock excitation). However the article io LC_circuit#History gave as a reference an article in the Bell System Technical Journal, 1941, pages 415-453. I have now obtained this paper and it gives James Clerk Maxwell as the first to give the resonance formula (in a different but mathematically equivalent form), in a letter published in Philosphosical Magazine 1868. I will try and get this letter. ```` Dionne Court (talk) 03:13, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It is this letter.  --Lambiam 12:14, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's from the right guy and via the correct other guy, but it has no math in it at all. It is not therefore the earliest statement of the resonance formula.
I'm looking for the fist statement of the formula as given in modern textbooks, i.e.,
f = 1/(2π(LC)½).
It is a trivial exercise in algrbra to convert Maxwell's form into the standard modern form, but I would like to know when the modern form was first give. Dionne Court (talk) 00:29, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The section entitled Mathematical Theory of the Experiment, an enclosure to the letter immediately following it on page 361, definitely contains some maths. On page 363 we see the equation which results in an amplitude that, Maxwell writes, "is the greatest effect which can be produced with a given velocity". In this formula, the "velocity" is what is now more commonly denoted with the Greek letter  --Lambiam 06:49, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
p 540 onwards in Mathematical and Physical Papers, Volume 1 William Thomson Baron Kelvin University Press, 1882 - Mathematics - 619 pages, which is in google books, certainly discusses oscillatory behavior and time between peaks but I don't think it explicitly states f=1/(2pi*sqrt(L*C)). Particularly equation 7 where his A is modern L. Greglocock (talk) 00:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 14[edit]

Cranial size and Pb poisoning[edit]

Hello, can lead poisoning affect cranial size?Rich (talk) 05:43, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes.[7] [8] [9] --136.54.106.120 (talk) 11:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 15[edit]

They see me rollin', they hatin...[edit]

Question for you guys. Is there any animal whose primary method of locomotion is curling into a ball and rolling head over heels to get around? Rather than running or walking. Because I think some woodlice do it (faster for them to roll then run), but I'm not 100% sure. Iloveparrots (talk) 03:04, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do fictional animals count? --136.54.106.120 (talk) 03:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Terrestrial locomotion #Rolling may be of interest. --136.54.106.120 (talk) 03:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how that could ever be a primary means of locomotion, but see also Category:Rolling animals. Shantavira|feed me 08:37, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hedgehogs do it to escape from predators when threatened. 2601:646:8082:BA0:BC05:6EA8:F933:9E6D (talk) 10:43, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hedgehogs roll up for protection, not for locomotion. (Ditto for the woodlice mentioned by the OP). Iapetus (talk) 11:57, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think I've ever seen a hedgehog roll outside of a video game. But then again, I've only ever seen hedgehogs in real life about three times. Iloveparrots (talk) 22:58, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hedgehogs do not purposely roll when in a defensive ball. They "huff", which makes them bounce, forcing their quills into whatever is attacking them. That bounce could cause a roll, but it isn't on purpose. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 13:40, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See Rotating locomotion in living systems. 2605:B100:34D:46C3:61A4:6B17:A082:3780 (talk) 12:27, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have encountered assertions that Giant pandas, when sitting in a bamboo thicket on a slope, will sometimes roll a short distance rather than get up and walk, but this would need confirmation from a reliable source, and in any case would not be a primary means of locomotion. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.173 (talk) 19:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A giant panda is rolling head first in this video: Panda Discovers Something Interesting. They roll about a lot too, for various reasons. Modocc (talk) 23:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What's the max depth of the Baltic, Black and Azov brim?[edit]

The depth where it stops being connected to the World Ocean 50% of the time (connected only by seepage through porous solids like silt not counting as connected). As the brim can erode, shift if the water's removed, be a V-notch in a ridge etc and even if it's dredged wide, straight and flat it might not be legal to lightly touch the silt so this might not round to the same number of feet as the deepest draft ship that's allowed at least 50% of the Metonic cycle, or how much sea level would have to drop to make it a lake 50% of the time. Also what would the depth be if the strait bottom wasn't landscaped? The Turkish Straits are pretty deep by ship standards maybe they aren't landscaped? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 18:05, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

They wouldn't need to be "landscaped", the Bosphorous is typically about 60 m deep with a 40 m sill towards its southern end, although the Asian side of the strait at that point is somewhat shallower (about 27 m) - see Siddall et al. (2004). Mikenorton (talk) 19:11, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Right I didn't think they would. Unless the depth of the rim's now artificial by more than a foot due to sinking accidents(s), full or partial intentional blockages or explosion(s) (possibly to clear some of the previous)? Or maybe it's still the natural rock or sediment accumulation-erosion surface? I don't know if the Baltic and Azov brim are unaffected by human landscaping. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 20:16, 15 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]


May 17[edit]

What would cause these 'dark area' blemishes on an LCD monitor?[edit]

See this photo: https://ibb.co/mz8vQh0

This is my Asus Designo MX25AQ main monitor, I've had it for a little over four years and two months now. Since about a year ago, it started developing this issue where a "wavy" area of darkness appears near the left and right edges of the screen. It looks as if there's liquid in the screen or if something's "delaminating" inside. It would usually happen when it's cold, and would go away / "fade away" as it warmed up (usually taking a few minutes). However, over the last few months, it's been getting worse and worse. Nowadays, sometimes it's visible on certain shades of colours even when the monitor is fully warmed up. It is especially noticeable when it cools down in real life (e.g. it's becoming dawn and the brightness has been decreased).

The "grey uniformity" of the monitor has been degrading a bit as well, I swear.

I know I likely won't be able to fix an issue like this with the LCD panel. But my question is, what would possibly cause these issues? Could it develop into a stage where my LCD becomes completely / severely broken?

Note that I'm posting this to RD/S and not RD/C because I strongly believe this issue has something to do with materials degradation in the LCD and not some issue with the computer or cable, so I figured this is a better place for that.

Apologies for the non-free external image site upload, but if everything you see in the photo is not copyrighted then I will upload it to Commons. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:03, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I Googled around, and it could be moisture infiltrating around the edges. The fact that it clears when hot is suggestive of that. There was a suggestion that if the monitor is near a kitchen, these stains could include cooking fumes. Another possibility (and conceivably related) is damage from pulling the protective plastic sheet off, the one that came when the monitor was newly purchased. This has to be done extremely carefully. Yet another worry is cleaning with rubbing alcohol, the internet says this is a bad idea. Abductive (reasoning) 06:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rubbing alcohol as sold can consist for up to 50% of water.  --Lambiam 09:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds plausible! Thinking about it, more than a year ago I did clean my monitor using a wet microfibre cloth (a small, thin one for phones), and that seems to be the timepoint it all started. Worth pointing out that this monitor is in a bedroom, so it's not near moisture or oil vapour sources, and it has never been used in such an environment. When I got it new, there wasn't actually a protective sticky film on the front, just a styrofoam wrap. When I slid that wrap off, I got a nice big static shock when I touched the monitor bezel, but that didn't seem to do any immediate damage – this monitor was fine for the first 2.5 years or so that I used it.
Another interesting fact about this monitor is that although I bought it in Mar 2020, according to the info label, it has an manufacture date of Sep 2015, so that means it sat in a warehouse for 4.5 years before I bought it I guess.
Aside from this annoying and distracting issue, this monitor is the best quality display I've ever had (QHD resolution and 100% sRGB accuracy), so it'd be such a shame if it's actually dying on me. — AP 499D25 (talk) 08:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any scientific truth to the meme that Vegetable oil/Seed oil is toxic to the human body?[edit]

There are plenty of memes that seed oil causes diabetes and heart attacks but I failed to find any wikipedia articles that argues their case. Is there any scientific truth to the meme that Vegetable oil/Seed oil is toxic/harmful to the human body?

Another question is that if the meme of harmful seed oil is unscientific then why isn't this meme documented in the List_of_conspiracy_theories wiki page? 2001:8003:429D:4100:A593:8A5B:182E:5551 (talk) 15:55, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any kind of fats or oils in excess can cause heart disease, but there is no truth to the claim that vegetable oil is more toxic than animal fats (in fact, it's actually healthier) or that its consumption in moderation causes any health problems. 2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17 (talk) 23:30, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there is truth to it. Our nutrition articles could do with some updating and balance. It is a prime example of Paracelsus's The dose makes the poison, for both the omega 6 LA and omega 3 ALA are essential nutrients for humans. The basic issue is consumption of a high quantity of omega-6 fatty acids from modern seed oils (which have only been consumed for a century or so) and other sources, including indirectly through animal feed and the (relative) paucity of omega-3 fatty acids in the modern human diet. [Excessive omega-3 over omega-6 has been found only in Greenlandic Inuit traditional communities.] Probably the best book to start with is Anthony John Hulbert's recent Omega Balance: Nutritional Power for a Happier, Healthier Life- Johns Hopkins (2022). By omega balance, he means the percentage of omega 3's in the sum of omega 3's and 6's. He says:

Although there is no advice about separate consumption of omega-3 and omega-6 fats in these national dietary guidelines, this is not the case with the premier scientific society concerning lipid research. In 2004, ISSFAL (International Society for the Study of Fatty Acids and Lipids) issued a series of recommendations for dietary intake of the essential fats by healthy adults. They made no comment about consumption of the nonessential saturated and monounsaturated fats but instead proposed that adequate intake of 18:2ω-6 [ Linoleic acid (LA) ] is 2 percent of energy, and a healthy intake of 18:3ω-3 [ α-linolenic acid (ALA) ] is 0.7 percent of energy as well as recommending a minimum intake of 500mg/d of 20:5ω-3 [ eicosapentaenoic acid (EPA)] and 22:6ω-6 [sic, should be 22:6ω-3 docosahexaenoic acid (DHA) as in the source [10]]. These ISSFAL recommendations for daily intake correspond to a diet omega balance of about 30 percent. The recommended intakes contrast markedly with the average actual daily intakes by the US population (from a 1999–2000 survey), which correspond to a diet omega balance of 9 percent. Similarly, a dietary survey of the Australian population revealed the average daily intake in 1995 corresponded to a diet omega balance of 11 percent. Both the United States and Australia (and likely many other developed high-income countries) have omega-6 intakes much higher and omega-3 intakes lower than the recommended levels.

Hulbert and other sources provide evidence that the omega imbalance can have deleterious effects not only in various chronic diseases, but also that the excess of inflammatory omega-6's can worsen outcomes of Covid, where many deaths appear to come from an excessive inflammatory response.John Z (talk)
μ-Oxidodihydrogen, a chemical compound found in industrially processed canned soup, is also known to be toxic to the human body. Why is no one talking about this?  --Lambiam 09:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In very large excess, such as Olympic sized swimming pools, you would find it extremely difficult to swim in oil. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It might be even more difficult in a bathtub.  --Lambiam 19:31, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A wry comparison to the dangers of water is appropriate to much or most discussion of nutrition. Which proceeds by demonizing food X and then along with declaring it causes disease Y, X is declared to be a novelty even though it was consumed by all or much of humanity for tens of millennia at least, or is even essential to life. Historical absurdity is absurdly accepted. But it isn't relevant here because nobody considers modern seed oils to be anything but essentially new foods, never existing or consumed in such bulk before by humans or by any animal. And there aren't many such candidates for widespread dietary changes that could be implicated in global rises of chronic diseases.
Another source, which may conceal some such wryness, is Harumi Okuyama, Yuko Ichikawa, Yueji Sun, Tomohito Hamazaki, William Edward Mitchell Lands- Prevention of Coronary Heart Disease: From the Cholesterol Hypothesis to omega 6 omega 3 Balance- Karger (2006). They note that "Dietary advice was revealed to be the most serious risk factor for CHD in Japan." "We suggest that increased intake of LA [a consequence of that advice as it raised seed oil consumption] may be a major cause for the observed increase in CHD incidence in the group with dietary advice. Higher intakes of LA accompanied higher rates of CHD ( fig. 9–11 ; tables 4 , 5 ), whereas decreasing LA intake was effective for the secondary prevention of CHD events". In any case, there is a genuine, active scientific controversy here, not a conspiracy theory. Those who see omega imbalance as a real problem - and therefore seed oils, which uncontroversially are its ultimate source- may be the majority of specialist lipidologists, e.g. Artemis Simopoulos, cofounder of ISSFAL.John Z (talk) 04:20, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Butterfly size[edit]

Do butterflies (especially nymphalids and/or swallowtails) become significantly smaller in size near the poleward (high-latitude) limit of their natural range? When I visited the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto, they had 2 pinned specimens of Papilio cresphontes on display which were much smaller than their normal size per the article (one had a wingspan of "only" 3 inches -- I did a rough measurement with my fingers against the glass -- and the other was about 1/2 inch bigger) -- is this normal for (1) specifically P. cresphontes, (2) all swallowtails, and/or (3) all or most butterfly species? 2601:646:8082:BA0:9480:50AE:ABF3:5E17 (talk) 23:38, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Size Distributions of Butterfly Species and the Effect of Latitude on Species Sizes (you can open a free JSTOR account or access through the Wikipedia Library). Alansplodge (talk) 10:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I won't click on any external links regarding this topic, just in case it might show me gratuitously enlarged pictures of P. multicaudata or some suchlike abomination -- can you just tell me the gist of it in a few words (or more than a few, your choice)? 2601:646:8082:BA0:E558:16C8:D2DE:51EF (talk) 10:31, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are no pictures, it's a scientific paper. "For butterfly species (Papilionoidea) of the Australian and Afrotropical regions, average wingspan decreases with increasing latitude". Alansplodge (talk) 10:34, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! So the answer is yes -- right? (And that would explain the unusually small size of the two P. cresphontes specimens at the museum -- they must have been caught locally, and Toronto is near the northern limit of this species' natural range! And that is also quite reassuring for me -- it means that in Portland, Maine where I've been planning to move for quite a while, any P. cresphontes I come across won't be scary huge, in fact I might actually come to like them!) 2601:646:8082:BA0:E55E:2854:FEDE:FEB6 (talk) 21:21, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 18[edit]

Why packaging is important[edit]

Two reasons why packaging is important PhuPhumzile (talk) 07:10, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please do your own homework.
Welcome to the Wikipedia Reference Desk. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misinterpretation, but it is our aim here not to do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn nearly as much as doing it yourself. Please attempt to solve the problem or answer the question yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. Shantavira|feed me 09:16, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ya gotta love it when a poster doesn't even try to make it look like a question they thought of on their own. Or like a question, even. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:23, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One reason: By packaging your homework question to make it look as if it is curiosity-driven, you have a much better chance of getting a useful answer.  --Lambiam 14:41, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why packaging is important: try buying loose helium by weight. Or by the handful. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:30, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In certain forms shrinkflation, despite selling less of a product, manufacturers keep the packaging at the original size and leave some of the space empty. This wrapping and transportation of air maintains the level of economic activity, which is important to the gross domestic product.  Card Zero  (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 19[edit]

Erythema Migrans[edit]

Hi

Does anyone have a good source for erythema migrans? I was looking for another one and can't copy (for my own notes) the Wikipedia page

W;ChangingUsername (talk) 19:04, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Erythema migrans. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 20:19, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just came from there. The article isnt very good im sorry W;ChangingUsername (talk) 21:02, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This Google Scholar search reduces the number of results from 19,400 to 11,900 by adding the term "review". Abductive (reasoning) 11:10, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you :)
I'll probably start using this for everything W;ChangingUsername (talk) 18:50, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 20[edit]

Can testosterone boost/etc... change someone desire from responsive to spontaneous?[edit]

Can testosterone boost/etc... change someone desire from responsive to spontaneous?177.207.104.19 (talk) 01:37, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What do you mean? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 01:39, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See Sexual desire and various other related articles, which you could have found easily by putting 'responsive desire' into the search box of this encyclopedia. You often post similar nonproductive responses to things which you personally have not heard of, although many others have: it becomes tedious. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.173 (talk) 11:58, 20 May 2024 (UTC) [reply]
I see no harm in trying to encourage posters to link to what they're asking about. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 12:44, 20 May 2024 (UTC) [reply]
To be fair, there was a non-zero chance that it referred to a responsive to spontaneous change in the desire to fight strangers. Sean.hoyland (talk) 13:01, 20 May 2024 (UTC) [reply]
Theoretically. The funny thing is that the first sentence of 94.2.67.173's lecture to me could just as easily have served as a direct response to the poster. (Though maybe that was the point anyway!) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:40, 20 May 2024 (UTC) [reply]
You may be thinking of the DRD5 gene, where some alleles are thought to be involved in spontaneity or lack thereof. Abductive (reasoning) 11:15, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Our article doesn't mention that, but implicates it in everything else: learning and memory, addiction, smoking, ADHD, Parkinson's disease, schizophrenia, locomotion, regulation of blood pressure, and immunity. What a busy gene. I guess you're referencing something along the lines of dopamine being important for the will to initiate movement, like in Awakenings.  Card Zero  (talk) 21:32, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
According to this review article, "of the few studies on T[estosterone] and desire in healthy women ... dyadic desire [desire in sex with a partner] has shown null or negative correlations with T". This suggests it is unlikely to achieve the specific effect.  --Lambiam 08:58, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Has Gregory M. Cochran worked for Darpa? If so, in what capacity, if known?Rich (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This Gregory Cochran would be a likely candidate, but I could find no direct evidence to support this. This Gregory M. Cochran seems less likely. There was a 'Doug Cochran' at DARPA, however. --136.54.106.120 (talk) 01:09, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I bet those 2 Gregory Cochrans are the same.Rich (talk) 02:27, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're correct: they each are "co-author of the book The 10,000 Year Explosion." That Edge link could be used as a source for updating the article. --136.54.106.120 (talk) 05:57, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 21[edit]

Butterflies of Daviess County, KY (Papilionidae)[edit]

In Daviess County, Kentucky (or generally along the Ohio River or within a reasonable distance south thereof), how late in the year was the latest-ever sighting of Papilio glaucus? (Here in Central California, all tiger swallowtail species disappear in the first days of September -- my latest confirmed sighting of P. multicaudata was on September 1, and of P. rutulus on September 4 -- is it more-or-less the same over there?) Asking for a local and/or an expert -- and no pictures, please! 2601:646:8082:BA0:250E:98C8:7461:C819 (talk) 02:48, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The pool of active RefDesk editors is quite small and is spread around the Anglosphere (or sometimes outside of it), so finding anyone from that locality or an entomologist here is a bit unlikely. A Google search only found backyardecology.net - Eastern Tiger Swallowtail Butterflies (with pictures) which says: "In Kentucky, we typically see the adults flying from April until September". Alansplodge (talk) 14:33, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Broadening the topic somewhat, you might be interested (if you aren't already familiar with it) by the subject of Phenology. Climate change is obviously having a large influence on previously reliable annual timings of natural phenomena: in my part of the world (southern England), many trees are blooming, etc., up to a month earlier than a few decades ago. Doubtless the emergence, migrations and numbers of annual broods of insects are also changing, so they can appear later as well as earlier. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.67.173 (talk) 09:57, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pseudouridine - why is it the fifth nucleotide?[edit]

I saw that in the scientific literature, pseudouridine is considered the fifth nucleotide. For example:[11], [12]. My question is why is it called the fifth and not the sixth? To the best of my knowledge, when pseudouridine was discovered in the 1950's, the known nucleotides were: A,C,T,G,U = five nucleotides. So why isn't pseudouridine the sixth nucleotide? Thanks 2A01:6500:A042:E52F:970A:37C0:5DE7:C30E (talk) 11:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The original paper seems to be the 1956 publication doi:10.1016/S0021-9258(18)70770-9 which, in Table 1, shows they only considered A,G,C and U as known in RNA at that time. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:22, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

May 22[edit]