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This was the first (only) disambiguation page I've created, and I had trouble finding any guidelines for how they're put together. If what I wrote was outside Wikipedia norms, would you tell me more about that? Thanks! [[User:Kenllama|Kenllama]]/<small>([[User talk:Kenllama|talk]]) </small> 17:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
This was the first (only) disambiguation page I've created, and I had trouble finding any guidelines for how they're put together. If what I wrote was outside Wikipedia norms, would you tell me more about that? Thanks! [[User:Kenllama|Kenllama]]/<small>([[User talk:Kenllama|talk]]) </small> 17:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:Sure -- the basic point you guessed: disambiguation pages disambiguate existing Wikipedia articles. I was thinking about the list that was already there as I walked earlier this afternoon, though. I think [[List of Sts. Eusebia]], for instance, might be a good place for the list you had on the dab. I'll go rearrange some of it... -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 17:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
:Sure -- the basic point you guessed: disambiguation pages disambiguate existing Wikipedia articles. I was thinking about the list that was already there as I walked earlier this afternoon, though. I think [[List of Sts. Eusebia]], for instance, might be a good place for the list you had on the dab. I'll go rearrange some of it... -- [[User:JHunterJ|JHunterJ]] ([[User talk:JHunterJ#top|talk]]) 17:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


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中山, 青山, and more CJKV

Hello, JHunterJ,

I need some help in 中山 and 青山, and would appreciate if you can look through these two dab's.

So far, I have documented all my work at User:Endroit/Chinese characters‎, if anybody wants to review what's being done so far.

In our previous discussions at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#CJKV disambiguation pages, we discussed the possibility of a taskforce, with 8 people showing interest (to varying degrees).

Perhaps you can also take a look at User:Endroit/WikiProject Disambiguation/CJKV, which is an (yet undiscussed) essay. If you feel we have enough to create a new taskforce based on what we have, can you please create a subpage at Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation/CJKV to get started?--Endroit (talk) 19:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where dab pages already exist for one or more of the transliterations (like Nakayama and Zhongshan (disambiguation)), I would use just one link to those dab pages rather than trying to keep the two lists in sync -- unless there area substantial number of entries on the dab page that are not related to the CKJV characters, but a transliteration of a homophonic set of characters. JHunterJ (talk) 23:38, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I separate out tranliterations of "Nakayama" and "Zhongshan". Please see my changes. Also, I moved a few Chinese characters to the respective Dab pages.

Note: Sun Yat-sen (孫逸仙) is the English name for 孫中山, so it shouldn't be classified under "Zhongshan" or "Nakayama". His given name "Yat-sen" is a non-pinyin transliteration of 逸仙 (rather than 中山).

Can you please fix my changes to make it more presentable, and conform it to WP:WPDAB standards? Thank you for your help.--Endroit (talk) 18:52, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I also made a new template, Template:Tranliterationof‎ to put at the top of each Dab, Nakayama and Zhongshan (disambiguation). This is experimental at this point. But hopefully, we can use something like this to disambiguate between multiple Dab's involving Chinese character names.--Endroit (talk) 00:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I finally checked up on the dabs and made some changes. I'm not sure of the best way to link from a Chinese character dab back to the transliteration dabs, but I made a try. I also moved the new template to {{transliterationof}}
Oops, thank you for fixing my spelling error.
Regarding the links from Chinese character dabs to the regular dabs, I take it that it's something new. I kind of like this approach for 青山, although not so much for 中山. Alphabetical order can be maintained wherever possible. But I think the dabs, Nakayama (disambiguation) and Zhongshan (disambiguation), should all come first for clarity. But this is really minor, and I really like the way you grouped the items together for simplicity.--Endroit (talk) 19:09, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rinku dab

Hey JHunterJ, what's up? Think you could give a helping hand over here? I'm having a hard time formatting it to disambig style. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 13:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. The first sentence in Verona (disambiguation): "Verona is a town, an episcopal see and the capital city of the Province of Verona in Italy.", could you check out if the spelling for "see" is correct? Perhaps "sight to see" is more fitting. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 23:11, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Episcopal see. -- JHunterJ (talk) 10:52, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... and Channel 9 could use a touch-up; seems that the wiki-linking there is quite exaggerated. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is Nested a dab page? I can't tell. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:10, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gum looks wierd too, some headers are hyperlinked. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 02:24, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And Suzaku? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 18:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hope I'm not overloading you with too many dabs, did I do well at Kurosaki? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tagged, adjusted, and moved as appropriate. Kurosaki looks fine, although I think it's more of a surname list with a "See also" for the station. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I thought you would help with the repairs on Kurosaki as well. I believe it should be classified a Japanese surname page, but I wanted confirmation from you first. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 14:22, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How's Akatsuki looking? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:09, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let me know if I'm asking too much of you, k? I just placed a cleanup tag on Ash and it "appears" to be clean. I'm hoping you saw my commented out message? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 04:21, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, I missed the commented message. I took a scan of Kurosaki and Akatsuki; Ash does need cleanup (for redlinks and multiple blue links, if nothing else). -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nest (disambiguation) needs cleanup, really. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Are the descriptions in Dragon Ball and Son Goku fine? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:39, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If possible, would you double check on Kishimoto after the others have been settled? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 03:44, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kishimoto, Dragon Ball and Son Goku look good. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Franz Ferdinand

Hello JHunter. It seems there are two subjects with the name 'Franz Ferdinand': Franz Ferdinand(Archduke) and Franz Ferdinand(band). While, a search for 'franz ferdinand wikipedia' in any search engine lists the band before the archduke, suggesting more Wiki users are interested in reading about the band than the Archduke, there are other users - like yourself - who consider the Archduke to have a greater importance. There is debate about which is the primary topic. Is it therefore not appropriate to redirect to disambiguation page? Other similar examples where musicians have appropriated names with exisiting meanings are Madness, Madonna, Queen, Pulp and Wings. There appears to be a precedent here. With respect, Wardroad (talk) 03:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a matter of importance, but of primacy. I don't believe 'franz ferdinand wikipedia' is a good indicator. Using the "What links here" from Franz Ferdinand, for instance, indicates that the primary topic remains the archduke. In any event, the place to discuss a change in the primary topic is Talk:Franz Ferdinand. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:12, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, it is about primacy - I used incorrect vocabulary. I looked at the 'what links here' pages of the article. Of the first hundred, thirteen of the links point to the archduke. Eighty seven point to the band. This indicates that the band is of primary interest to the users of Wikipedia. Beyond personal opinion, can you counter this? Despite the obvious primacy of the band, It is not fair to redirect to the band page, but to the disambiguation page. Please see discussion on the page. Wardroad (talk) 14:22, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright. Fixed up properly then (except for the incoming links to the base name dab). -- JHunterJ (talk) 16:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the superfluous disambiguation - that's not something that occurred to me. Thanks for your fair and even-handed editing, Wardroad (talk) 16:14, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Naked

You seem to be very, very, very confused with regards to the Naked page. (Or you're just a jerk—but I don't think so.) The consensus on the Talk:Naked page is that it should redirect to Naked (disambiguation). You keep putting it to Nudity, but with no reason. Several reasons against doing so are clearly listed, surprise, right at the top of the page, from 2007-ish.

You've jumped into an ancient discussion from 2004 that is discussing an ancient version of Naked that needed to be merged with Nudity since they covered the same topics. Now that that's been done—over three years ago—that's no longer relevant. So, instead, Naked goes right to a disambiguation page.

In the future, please be careful to pay a little more attention, and avoid getting caught up in dead discussions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.44.178 (talk) 06:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I jumped to the end of the talk page, where the most recent discussions on a topic can be expected to be found. (It is a surprise to find them closer to the top of the talk page.) It's too bad the previous talk page editor didn't follow the usual convention. I've corrected his error, and replied there. In the future, you should still voice your opinions on the talk page as well, which you still haven't done, but I'm trying to assume it's not because you're just a jerk (despite the "very, very, very confused" note above). -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted 71.234.44.178's disruptive edit to Naked‎. JHunterJ/Archive 7, I left a question at the bottom here in case you missed it. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 14:04, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In space

Any suggestions about what to do with this mess: In space? It's just a list of things that contain the phrase. The only articles that are actually named "in space" are the one in question and In Space, which redirects to it. Redirect them both to Outer space? Find some other use for them?--ShelfSkewed Talk 05:30, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd remove the dab tag and propose its deletion. Which is what I did. :-) -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Russell Bishop

I believe this article was moved as part of an OTRs request. You might want to ask Guy about it as he moved it originally. Woody (talk) 14:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dablinks

Hi there, I've left some comments on the Centerville discussion page regarding where one might put the Centerville that's in Fremont. Which reminded me, by the way, to thank you for showing me by example a good way to display entries on dab pages that link to anchor points within articles. I like how you don't link to the name ("Centerville"), but to something a little farther along in the entry. That had been bothering me for some time as I'd been coming across them on other dab pages. Cheers, --Ken Gallager (talk) 14:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote concern

There is a hatnote called {{Japanese name}} at Masashi Kishimoto (and others) which I thought should have been removed per WP:NAMB. I need your opinion on it, if you may. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 19:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a disambiguation template, so I don't think WP:NAMB applies. I'd leave it in place. -- JHunterJ (talk) 20:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seems Forrest Gump (disambiguation) is malplaced. Forrest Gump redirects there. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 18:20, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The dab was in the right place for a primary topic (the film). Fixed (again). Thanks! -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:46, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can you fix up Wiz (disambiguation)? And for some reason or another, Wiz redirects there. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for helping out. Did I do good too? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:10, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the last "See also" back to use the (disambiguation) redirect. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After you reply to that above, can you perhaps answer these?
  1. Should List of superpowers be listed at Superpower (disambiguation)?
    I don't think so. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Fictional characters, like for example:
Richard Sharpe (fictional character)
Athos (fictional character)
Joe Wilson (fictional character)
Harry Callahan (character)
Igor (fictional character)
Xuanzang (fictional character)
Pug (fictional character)
Steve Austin (fictional character)
Lou Grant (fictional character)
Gilligan (fictional character)
Jason Bourne (character)
Are all of these named in their correct article titles, respectively? I'm thinking the format is supposed to be Character's name (if needed, "title of story"), like Miroku (InuYasha) for example? I think I screwed up with Wiz (character) if this is the case. Is this all making sense? Hope I'm asking the right way. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 02:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe there's a guideline for it. Personally, I prefer the dab portion of a title to be a noun that reflects the subject, like "character" or "InuYasha character", or "TV episode" or "Seinfeld episode", rather than the setting type, like "InuYasha" or "Seinfeld", but I've seen both styles. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Redlinks and disambiguation pages

I've left a somewhat crabby note at Talk:William Leslie (disambiguation) explaining why I find these useful. When I'm trying to sort out (say) 3 MPs of the same name, say "John Smith", I generally try and go through all the existing links and disambiguate as many existing links to "John Smith" as I can identify. When we have but one article on a "John Smith" (as is the case with Wm. Leslie), this seems useful, as otherwise many articles have bluelinks to a quite inappropriate person. But if I cannot log the redlinks on a disambiguation page, there's no easy way to find out how many *disambiguated* links to various John Smiths exist in Wikipedia; if different disambiguations are chosen for "John Smiths" who are in fact the same person (due to the lack of a list), redlinks may remain even after an article has been created, because the second disambiguation is not known and not linked to it. Choess (talk) 23:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The blue links are a good start, but the blue links must link to an article that covers the disambiguated entry. I removed the ones that still don't have an article to disambiguate. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:19, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dab templates in the user namespace

My project for this morning was removing User namespace pages from Category:Disambiguation (mostly by piping {{disambig}} templates on sandbox pages, or by removing the category tag improperly placed on User subpages). I was able to clean out all but two: User:Ed Smith/monobook.js and User:Ed Smith/monobook.jss. Both pages (which of course I can't edit) include a version of the human-name dab page Ed Smith, including the disambig template. User:Ed Smith—who was active for only one day, more than a year and a half ago—did nothing but copy the Ed Smith dab page to his own pages, and then repeatedly try to redirect the dab page to them. In other words, all his edits were vandalistic or at least disruptive. Does your admin mop allow you clean up corners like this, or is there some request process for removing such user pages? Best--ShelfSkewed Talk 18:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was allowed to edit them, so the mop must be sufficient. Fixed now. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great. Thanks!--ShelfSkewed Talk 03:45, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zero

Did I do well at Zero? And I was hoping that you would reply here. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 20:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Quick comment: like you did here, should the same be done to the "Wiz" link at Wizard#See also? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 06:19, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I'm unsure if this person did the right thing. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 06:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for getting that. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 17:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just wondering, is the first line at InuYasha (disambiguation) overlinked? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 19:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Overlinked, and I think over-long in any event. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You suggest that I do something like this to each "See also" sections on dab pages? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 01:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's the guideline: WP:D#Links to disambiguation pages -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:59, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please put the link in somewhere else is your going to remove a key one from a particular area. --Nate1481( t/c) 16:40, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disambig page style repair

Hunter, I noticed your "Disambig page style repair: (you can help!)" after my edits on Johnson (disambiguation); very nice. I'm going to look at the wikiproject myself. Cheers Rosiestephenson (talk) 00:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fictional characters

Hunter, After our "Fictional characters/people" edits yesterday on Johnson and Johnson (disambiguation), I started thinking about the issue of handling fictionals. Wanted you to know I posted a couple of questions on the wikiproject anthroponymy Talk page in this regard so that the group can benefit from answers. Hoping you can look there? Thanks Rosiestephenson (talk) 00:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Go

I'd appreciate if you put an eyeball on the dab page Go. One specific question I had was about the nonlink Go! for the PSP peripherals in the "Other uses" section. The link goes to the section of the PSP article that discusses all the peripherals, but several of them (Go!Messenger, for example, and three or four others) have individual articles. Should those be included on the dab page? And there seem to be a lot of marginal cases--things that could be included (Go-Mart or the redirect link Go (Monopoly), for example, and see the Lookfrom link in the "See also" section)--but the page is long as it is and I didn't want to load it down unnecessarily. As always, any advice or changes you'd like to make are welcome...--ShelfSkewed Talk 18:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the PSP link is needed, since it doesn't appear that any of the peripherals are known as "Go", but they might be. IMO, there's certainly no need to link, say, Go!Messenger. Go (Monopoly), yes, Go-Mart, probably not. Short-word dabs are always long, and I don't think there's any reason to avoid keeping it long or even making it longer. That said, things like Go Air could be removed or moved to a "See also" section. -- JHunterJ (talk) 01:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HP dab

You might want to recount that number, J. I think you are forgetting a few folk. I'll give you the opportunity to revise your response, so i don't have to correct you. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 03:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As long as you add up all the editors who have tried to get Harry Potter included in the HP dab page, correct away. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you repair whatever needs repairing? I've got most of it cleaned, but I wasn't sure if it was categorized correctly and whatnot. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 04:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should I remove the red links in Adam Hunter? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:26, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Alucard needs to be in the Dracula category. Yes, the redlinks should come out. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:01, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Does Adam Hunter need your disambig-style touch? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A little. I figured you were asking about removing the redlink entries altogether, not just the links themselves. And I removed the trailing periods and reworded the intro. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I should have been clearer. How's this edit? And check out Vampyr, I'm not sure if the hatnote if needed there. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 02:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not needed, but I usually let them go or discuss first -- somebody though it was useful. Alucard looks good now. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Something's wrong with Scarface (film). Or is it just me? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 03:35, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, there shouldn't be "sub-dabs"; they should be redirected to the main dab. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How was this edit? I wasn't sure whether to make a Vampyr (film) redirect take place instead of Vampyr. Your thoughts? And was I supposed to use all redirects here? Seems it's missing a more "Scarfaces". Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 21:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, don't make of redirect; Vampyr is fine -- it could be placed in "See also", but since the page seems to be dabbing both vampire and vampyre, I let it stand. Yes, the redirects on Scarface are good. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Was this per the guideline? Speaking of which, what's with all the redirects at Wikipedia:DAB#Links to disambiguation pages? I'm just wondering if the redirects there should be corrected. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Not sure what needs to be corrected on the links section. -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, never mind. What other wiki-links are missing from Scarface? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 00:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing none? Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 03:04, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please take a look at this afterwards. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 03:39, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Battle Tower looks like a violation of the guidelines. Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 04:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scarface, dunno; as long as everything in All pages with titles beginning with Scarface ( is there, I'd say the rest could wait for another editor. Haro, good. Battle Tower, fixed. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you do to Hellsing (anime) like what you did to Scarface (film)? Can't quite figure out where you got the "span" from. I'm trying to redirect it and make a similar format to Hellsing (disambiguation). Lord Sesshomaru (talkedits) 19:40, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, I don't think it needs it. You can just make Hellsing (anime) a "normal" redirect to Hellsing (disambiguation). If the disambiguation is long enough to need actual sections (the ones that use ==Section==), then a redirect to an anchor like "Dab Name#Section" works without creating a span. However, if the dab doesn't use sections but uses groups, you can make the anchor work anyway by putting <span id="Group">In '''group''':</span> so that "Dab Name#Group" jumps to that section. But Hellsing (disambiguation) isn't long enough to need it. -- JHunterJ (talk) 21:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leading prepositional phrase?

I'm wondering if you happen to know anything about starting an article with a prepositional phrase, e.g. adpositional phrase begins with "In linguistics, an adpositional phrase is..." From what I have found in the WP:GTL, WP:LS indicates that the bold title restatement should be as early as possible. Thoughts? Also, if beginning with something other than the title restatement is contraindicated, what about a case such as patch (computing), which starts with "In computing, a patch is..."? Thanks in advance for your insights. ENeville (talk) 22:47, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I know nothing about such phrases. I agree with moving the bold part early, and see no benefit to "In computing, a patch is" vs. "A patch in computing is" or even "A patch is". -- JHunterJ (talk) 00:03, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coca-Cola Classic

Please do not revert links to disambiguations of college football bowl games, like you did with Coca-Cola Classic. While it is not a post-season bowl game, it was a significant game played for several years on many levels and because of its name, could be easily confused with the soft drink and soft drink company that sponsored the game.

Coca-Cola Classic (college football) is a part of the Wikipedia College Football project.--Paul McDonald (talk) 03:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not quite what happened. Base name goes to the primary topic, which is unrelated to the football project. Possible confusion is handled by the hatnote on Coca-Cola. See WP:D for more information on primary topics. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:23, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

R2D

Sorry, haven't got a clue what it means. I've seen it used a couple of times by Admins but not sure what it actually means. I think "Redirect to" is the R2 part but I'm struggling to come up with a good enough word for the D. You could try asking the person who created the redirect [1]. Let me know if you find out what it is. - X201 (talk) 08:54, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's "Redirect to direct", the guideline. Lex T/C Guest Book 00:47, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! The guidelines is "don't fix links that aren't broken" -- the "redirect to direct" name is non-obvious, I think. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:45, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. However, I think WP:R2D is more comfortable to write than something like WP:NONBROKEN or WP:Dont Fix Non-broken Links... Lex T/C Guest Book 19:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article was originally about a novelist professor at the University of Florida, which is why I'm interested in it. Today a brand new editor tried to turn it into a disambiguation page by creating a new article David F. Leavitt and clipping and pasting the old article into it. I reverted his changes in the original article and noted that it wasn't the proper way to do it. I was then going to merge the old into the new and then change the old to a disambiguation page. The new editor promptly reverted my revert. I really don't care to get into a war over this. Anyway the talk and history sections of the original article belong to the new one. Perhaps you would be able to straighten it out. Thanks. clariosophic (talk) 20:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like another editor has put things right already. Let me know if it still needs something I missed. -- JHunterJ (talk) 23:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eusebia

I'm not sure I understand some of the edits you made to the Eusebia page. I'm particularly thinking of this edit wherein you eliminated a section on various saints and a few other things. Were those bits eliminated because they don't yet point to wikipedia pages? I considered them to be pretty important bits of information for anyone who might have been looking up the word/name Eusebia; even though they didn't go to entries, they contained useful information. Is that inappropriate for a disambiguation page? Likewise, the information on the Greek ideal/virtue "Eusebia" seemed like important context for understanding the name -- all those people named Eusebia were named after the virtue (or, probably, other people...) I'd like to work up an entry for the the Greek idea, but my start on it has been a little stubby.

Also: Eusebia is not a surname in the case of Oma Eusebia. "Oma" means something like "Granny" -- Eusebia is her name, Oma is a title or honorific.

This was the first (only) disambiguation page I've created, and I had trouble finding any guidelines for how they're put together. If what I wrote was outside Wikipedia norms, would you tell me more about that? Thanks! Kenllama/(talk) 17:19, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sure -- the basic point you guessed: disambiguation pages disambiguate existing Wikipedia articles. I was thinking about the list that was already there as I walked earlier this afternoon, though. I think List of Sts. Eusebia, for instance, might be a good place for the list you had on the dab. I'll go rearrange some of it... -- JHunterJ (talk) 17:54, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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