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Archive α (19 December 2004 – 22 December 2005) Archive β (24 December 2005 – 25 January 2006) Archive γ (1 February 2006 – 9 March 2006) Archive δ (10 March 2006 – 28 April 2006) WP:RM re Cavalier Hello Nightstallion, I noticed that relating to the move of Cavalier to Cavaliers (royalists) that it was reverted back to Cavalier per WP:RM, according to your edit summary. I've visited that page and am unable to find reference to the discussion. I noticed the primary objection, over 400 pages linking to Cavaliers, which I've mostly pointed to the Cavalier specific page for royalists. However if there is still sufficient reason to leave it as Cavalier please advise. I noticed three supports and two objections (mine admittedly was a day or two late) so unsure if that established consensus. It protocol is to petition a page move also please advise and I'll gladly do this. Thanks for your assistance. NetK 02:39, 29 April 2006 (UTC) Please move the page "Cavaliers (royalists)" back to "Cavalier" ASAP otherwise it makes a mockery of WP:RM. It was four opinions in favour not three, User:Netkinetic forgot to count my opinion as proposer as in favour. Also I informed him/her of the WP:RM on the day that I proposed the move [1] his/her reply on my talk page [2]. See the requested move for details but the name "Cavaliers (royalists)" was a new page name created by Netkinetic in the 48 hours before I put in the request, The links were changed from Cavalier and Cavaliers in the main using a bot while the WP:RM was ongoing [3] When I have time I will move them all over to Cavalier but for the time being the redirect was working fine! --Philip Baird Shearer 08:55, 29 April 2006 (UTC) Please note: One of the "support" votes, from Laserbeamcrossfire, read as follows: "That's a good idea to move it. It's very silly for cavalier to redirect to one particulary form of it." His comment can be interpreted to address the perspective I myself share that view as indeed, it IS silly for cavalier to redirect to ONE particular form (royalists). It *should* redirect to a disambiguation page, IMHO. Perhaps we can obtain clarification from him/her relating to his actual viewpoint on this matter. The criteria for opposition towards a page move, relating to 400 odd links, has been addressed already per above. Although I concede that this is allegedly the first and most prominent usage of the term, I fail to see why one derivation of cavalier should be singled out above the other various derivations. NetK 19:47, 29 April 2006 (UTC) There was clear consensus for Cavalier to be the royalist-related article; I've re-done the move, please don't revert it again. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 09:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Re the whole de-bureaucrating thing Hi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. -- Francs2000 09:47, 29 April 2006 (UTC) Gladly! —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 09:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC) This is Moe Hello Nightstallion, just thought I would let you know that I was leaving Wikipedia, but before I left, I finally got a picture of thyself onto Wikipedia. (I know great timing for me to post a picture of myself, right?) This is my final gift to my friends. Later! PS. Try not to laugh to hard at my ugly mug ok? Moe ε 16:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC) I certainly won't laugh, and am sorry to see you go (again); maybe we should try to work out together what exactly it is that keeps you leavning so often...? —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 09:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Random acts of kindness Hello Nightstallion. As per Wikipedia:Random Acts of Kindness, I will give 1 hour nonstop towards any wiki-related task. I will cease after an hour, no matter how complete the task is. Anything that I can do for one hour? I'm asking you because you are the most recent admin to delete a page, so I assume you're online. Reply here if you wish. --Dangherous 10:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC) As far as I know, WP:DPL can always use help... Thanks! =] —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 10:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Thank you! Thank you, dear Nightstallion! Your concern in my absence and your get-well wishes really mean a lot to me. Sometimes, well - life can be tough on us, but as long as good friends like you are there, I'll always have a reason to cheer up. Thank you, my sweet, dear NS!! Phædriel ♥ tell me - 17:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Why is it that every time I read your words, you make me giggle as if I was 12 years old, NS? :) Phædriel ♥ tell me - 17:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC) I'm not quite sure. Maybe it's my natural charm? =] —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 17:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Absolutely! Now I realize why I've missed you so much ;) Phædriel ♥ tell me - 18:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Clearly you must have missed me so much you couldn't help it – you had to return. (Yay!) ;) —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 18:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Sockpuppets Hi Nightstallion; Do you do sockpuppet checks? There is a hoax article up for deletion and there are two posters whose only edits related to the hoax in question. The users are Charly and FERS. Although there is a small chance they may indeed be two seperate people, would it be possible to check? The pages in question are Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Concepción Heredia-Rosas, Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Concepción Heredia-Rosas, Concepción Heredia-Rosas, Gueroust Palace and Talk:Gueroust Palace. Thanks. Charles 18:57, 1 May 2006 (UTC) I'm afraid CheckUser rights are way beyond my privileges. ;) You'll have to ask at WP:RCU for that. Good luck! —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 19:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 1st. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 2, Issue 18 1 May 2006 About the Signpost Campaign manager resigns over Wikipedia edit Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages Assorted honors for Jimmy Wales News and Notes: 4 million articles, milestones Wikipedia in the News Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report On Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Thanks for the WP:RM but... Thanks for moving The West Wing presidential election, 2006 to its new home. For future reference, be sure to follow through on the tidying up guidelines as well. In particular, there were a number of Wikipedia:Double redirects to deal with after the move, and as the page states, "it is the responsibility of the admin doing the move to fix these"... I just finished that job, however, so no further action on the 2006 page is required. FYI, I ran out of time before tackling the double redirects for the much less-referenced The West Wing presidential election, 2002. 66.167.139.88 10:38, 2 May 2006 (UTC) Okay, thanks. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 10:44, 2 May 2006 (UTC) California Unit Moves Can you point out where you got consensus for your page name changes for the PA 71st? --evrik 13:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC) There was no opposition voiced, and standardisation seemed in order. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 15:53, 2 May 2006 (UTC) WATL You told me to contact you at the Talk:WATL (TV) page if I still wanted someone to to move this.....what I did is created WATL (disambiguation) to appease the people who wanted the other meaning of "WATL" to be listed as a disambig. Could you move "WATL (TV)" to "WATL" now? CFIF (talk to me) 15:01, 2 May 2006 (UTC) Looks like there's nothing on Wisconsin Academy of Trial Lawyers. So can you move it to WATL please? Thanks. --CFIF (talk to me) 19:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC) Done. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC) Requested Move Hello, Nightstallion. You recently post on the Extreme Championship Wrestling that the page was not moved as there was no consensus, however, the requested move section was added only a few days ago, why not provide a little bit of time for individuals to support or oppose. Thank you. Kyros 19:33, 2 May 2006 (UTC) For two reasons: The entry on WP:RM was due to be processed today, which is what I did. Had the outcome been in favour, I would have had no choice but to follow official policies over editor consensus in this matter; there's no good reason to displace a good TLA dab page with something which is also commonly known by its full name. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 19:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC) RE: Azarbaijan (Iran), et al. Hi there! I hope you're well. As affirmed by your recent move, there was a consensus to move the article Iranian Azerbaijan initially – to Azarbaijan (Iran) – for various reasons; however, there apparently is not a consensus for another move to Azerbaijan (Iran). Moreover, I and at least one other have taken issue with both the compiled tally (which in prior form split the pro -a- vote) or varied interpretations of the vote and, particularly, the user who compiled the later tally (who has (re-)interpreted votes any which way to promulgate his viewpoint). Of course, the converse may also be true. Anyhow, I believe the current rendition has been reaffirmed through the lack of consensus for the 2nd move; please advise. On other matters: I'll let you know when I strike the 'hydrography' wikiproject. Relatedly, I've recently joined the WikiProject 1.0 endeavour, specifically geography, which aims to produce a static version of Wp. Would you like to help (me)? :) In any event, let me know if you've any questions. Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 16:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC) Hi! I think it's okay as it stands – there's no consensus on whether to write it with a or with e, so we'll leave it where it's currently at. Regarding WP1.0, I'm afraid I'm unlikely to contribute, first and foremost due to the fact that my Wikipedia time is stretched thinly as it is; additionally, I don't really believe in static content as a solution, but rather an additional problem for Wikipedia, but it appears I'm in the minority with that opinion. Looking forward to the Hydrography/Oceanology WikiProject! Yours, —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Hi there! Thanks for the feedback. Agreed: no matter which way you skin the cat, though, there was apparently a consensus for the first move proposed. :) I feel, though, that the Az title situation might escalate as a NPOV issue ... hence clarifying results and positioning before that time, if at all. As well, thanks; I understand your constraints and commitments. No problem. I don't think Wp 1.0 is a 'solution' to anything per se: I support having a regular static version of Wp for future reference and posterity (e.g., in book form), which Wp 1.0 is a valiant attempt at; this would complement, not replace, the familiar Wp. It may also help to garner funds for the (non-profit) parent foundation. I've been tasked with assisting with geography aspects and, as well, will enhance the topic tree proposed. Fun! In any event, I'll keep you posted. Don't worry, I'll keep you apprised about the hydro/geo project. Somewhat relatedly: in the interim, are you able to release the lock on Republic of Macedonia? There is clearly support for one rendition in the lead – Option #2 (the version more or less in the locked version) – and I've yet to run the vote result by a bureaucrat, but I don't foresee a problem and this will at least enable us to continue editing the article ... hopefully in other productive ways. I'm also hopeful that the respective editors, given the vote, will play nice. Thoughts? Thanks again! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 13:41, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Regarding WP1.0, I've got to clarify my stance – I think stable versions are a bad idea for the project, the goal of having good articles about basic topics is a good idea, of course. Looking forward to Hydrography, and I've changed the protection status of North Macedonia to semi-protection. Hope that's alright. Take care, —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 15:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC) No problem; remember: articles are only static per se until a subsequent release. And yes: thanks for the semi-protect. As for extraneous commentary regarding this talk sxn header, well no comment. Thanks! E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 00:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC) I was hoping to attract outside opinion, as mine was; but I think your previous close was over-hasty. There were three choices then: The original placement: Iranian Azerbaijan The present placement; Azarbaijan (Iran) The preference of several voters: Azerbaijan (Iran) I think the third choice has attracted the most support of the three; the arguments for the second choice are: Azarbaijan is equally acceptable as an English name, which is unsubstantiated (and, I think, false). Azarbaijan is the Persian name, which should be irrelevant. Septentrionalis 20:15, 5 May 2006 (UTC) List of legislatures by country I am eager to start editing the list of legislatures by country article, but some of my proposed edits involve “wiki programming” that I do not know how to do. One of my propositions is organizing the page like this: Country Overall name of legislature Lower house Upper house The problem is that I don’t know how (or if it is even possible) to organize an entire wikitable like this. The above is an example not in the format that the entire table would be in. Since I saw your cool userbox page I thought I should ask you about template editing. So please let me know if you can show me a way in which this can be done, that is if you approve of my ideas. Once I get this out of the way I plan to add flags too. Thanks for all the help. – Zntrip 00:13, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Certainly that's possible, what's the problem? See: Country Overall name of legislature Lower house Upper house Austria Federal Assembly of Austria National Council of Austria Federal Council of Austria ... and so on... D'accord? A minor change: "colspan=2" instead of "colspan=3", you don't need a third column. ;) —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 04:23, 4 May 2006 (UTC) ¡Thank you very much! – Zntrip 05:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Glad to have been of help! Have fun with the article, can't wait to see how it turns out. ;) —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Uh, sorry, but I have another problem. How do I fix this? Country Overall name of legislature Lower house Upper house Afghanistan National Assembly Wolesi Jirga Meshrano Jirga Albania Assembly of Albania Algeria Parliament National People's Assembly Council of the Nation Don't wan't to bother you too much. ^_^ – Zntrip 00:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Like this: Country Overall name of legislature Lower house Upper house Afghanistan National Assembly Wolesi Jirga Meshrano Jirga Albania Assembly of Albania Algeria Parliament National People's Assembly Council of the Nation And you're not bothering me at all, nice to see someone do something useful with that page. ;) Take care! —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks again :) – Zntrip 22:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Ok, I have another question, but this time it is not about templates. For the list, I’m going to add territories with any autonomy. I thought I would ask you about French territories, because you have that page about dependencies. I my question is: “Which French overseas territories have full or partial autonomy?” Thanks again for all the help. – Zntrip 02:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC) More or less all of them except for the integrated overseas regions (Guadeloupe, Martinique, Réunion, French Guyana). —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks again. – Zntrip 22:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC) daredevil move close I'm looking at Talk:Daredevil (Marvel Comics)#Requested move and I'm not understanding your close. Your comments don't seem to support the decision in your close to move Daredevil (Marvel Comics) → Daredevil (comics), and I can't see a consensus to move either. It'd also be somewhat counter to WP:NCC, which seems to direct that publisher names should be used in disambig phrases when dual characters of the same name have been published. I'm not saying we have to blindly follow the conventions, but I'd prefer a stronger consensus to exist before a decision not to follow them is made. Steve block Talk 18:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Sorry, that was a typo. I meant "don't move"; technically, it was a "no consensus", but policies and dab guidelines clearly state that the current situation should remain. Sorry for the confusion. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 21:34, 4 May 2006 (UTC) I thought that's what you meant, thanks for clarifying. Steve block Talk 21:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC) Speedy rename request Hi Nightstallion, I goofed while trying to rename Gabriel Montgomery; would it be too cheeky to ask you to speedy my request to move Gabriel , comte de Montgomery to Gabriel, comte de Montgomery?  Hoping not, David Kernow 05:10, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Done. =] —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks!  David 12:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC) User:Col. Hauler/StarCraft II - Don't you see, Blizzard need it? Having a Wikipedia article is important, Wikipedia tends to come up first or near-first on Google and other search engines - Having all the information listed in one place is definitely a good thing, and makes very public Blizzard's various promises, encouraging them to make good on them. It also gets more publicity, which again means more and more likely they'll get around to making the game. I encourage you to change your vote at Wikipedia:Deletion_review#StarCraft_II_.28Talk:StarCraft_II.29 (I mean, look at the external links too...) ... but meh. --Col. Hauler 12:43, 5 May 2006 (UTC) I sympathise with your reasoning, but that doesn't change anything about the fact that we still have to follow Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and according to those, this is barely verifiable, and most certainly not notable. You might be able to get a section in StarCraft to stay, but its own article is out of the question until it's announced, I'm afraid... Good luck, though. Take care, —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 12:46, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for moving Newark Castle, Port Glasgow Thanks very much for carrying out the move of Newark Castle, Port Glasgow back to its original title in accordance with the result of the debate. Nicely done! ..dave souza, talk 13:22, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Gladly. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 13:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC) Question, ATLAS Shouldn't ATLAS be at ATLAS (disambiguation), like Atlas/Atlas (disambiguation) is? I can't move stuff since this account is too new (my last one was banned for being too inappropriate. Apparently it's illegal to say that lesbians are awesome here) --Col. Hauler 13:32, 5 May 2006 (UTC) No, it shouldn't; Atlas is at Atlas because it's the primary topic. Since there's no primary topic for ATLAS, the disambiguation page is at ATLAS, while Atlas (disambiguation) has the (dab) clarifier added because the primary topic gets the parentheses-less title. Got it? ;) —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 13:36, 5 May 2006 (UTC) RE: Rf/Admin Hi there! Don't worry about it; I'll keep the hounds at bay. ;) As with others, I've replied to the two recent inquiring minds. When I decide to pursue this – and likely I won't be ready for this in June, if at all – you'll be the first to know. Thanks again for your continued confidence in me! :) E Pluribus Anthony | talk | 00:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Hey, if there'd only be a single user not yet an admin whom I'd be allowed to nominate to become, it'd be you. =] Take care, —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 00:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Requesting an explanation Hello! I am speaking about article's Ludmilla Turischeva proposed move. Could you,please, provide more explanations of no consensus decision? Because on the talk page 2 votes was in favor of the move (Cmapm, Mademoiselle Sabina) and one vote was initially against, but that user did not respond to our arguments, and therefore it may be considered "undefined". And on the page Wikipedia:Requested moves is stated, that more than 60% in favor is generally enough. Cmapm 13:45, 6 May 2006 (UTC) The quorum was very small, the explanations hazy, the Google Search inconclusive... Feel free to file an WP:RfC and see if more agree with your reasoning, but as it stands, it's not really clear enough for me. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 13:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Yes, as you can see it was underlined by me on that page, that Google searches are not reliable. But my arguments were based on reliable sources, I cited them in the paragraph "my points with references...". Do you call them hazy? For "Larisa Latynina" move to "Larissa Latynina" only I voted, and the quorum was not considered small... I'll not file the RfC, but I thought, that person's Pan_Gerwazy "against" arguments were hazy - no sources cited at all, just relied on (strange!) Google search. Cmapm 14:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Mh. Fair enough. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 14:04, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for reconsidering your decision and fast responses. Cmapm 14:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Ronaldo move Hi Nightstallion, I think there is something still wrong..Talk:Ronaldo (disambiguation) redirects to Talk:Ronaldo Luís Nazário de Lima. Can you please have a look? Thanks. -Aabha (talk) 13:50, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Fixed. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 13:53, 6 May 2006 (UTC) User talk pages Hi Nightstallion; Do you delete user talk pages? I've been looking through WP policies on user pages and have found no provisions for them. It is a matter for me of removing personal information. I want to leave WP but not have personal vestiges left behind. Charles 17:57, 6 May 2006 (UTC) Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3 Administrator Coaching The Administrator Coaching program is a program aimed at preparing Wikipedians for Adminship or helping them understand the intricacies of Wikipedia better. Recently, changes have been made to the requirements of coachees. Please review them before requesting this service. 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The last AC meeting (full log) Posting logs of the Esperanza IRC channel are explicitly banned anywhere. Violation of this rule results in deletion and a ban from the channel. A disclaimer is going to be added to the Esperanza main page. We are humans and, as such, are imperfect. Various revisions have been made to the Code of Conduct. Please see them, as the proposal is ready to be ratified by the community and enacted. All members will members to have to re-confirm their membership after accepting the Code of Conduct. Referendums are to be held on whether terms of AC members should be lengthened and whether we should abolish votes full stop. Admin Coaching reform is agreed upon. Signed... Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC) Still the same old problem without a solution Hi again. On the page Talk:Pope_Stephen_III you wrote : I don't think this is a case for a WP:RM, but rather something you should work out consensually. Come back to me or any other admin (unless one of you is one) if you need help after having found a solution. Cheers! —Nightstallion (?) 09:33, 24 February 2006 (UTC) And nothing have changed since. So I "come back to you", even if I have no new solution, since my old one is the best one. I'll ask again for the renaming of the page and the other pope Stephen pages. Do you think there is somewhere a chance the article currently known as Pope Stephen X has a chance to be one fine day renamed into Pope Stephen IX, as everybody agrees it was the name he used during his reign, the name written on his tomb, the name the Church calls him and the name every encyclopedia use to call him since forty years? I mean — do we really need a consensual decision on such a subject? No-one on Wikipedia contests the fact he's called Stephen IX, but still there is an opposition to rename the article... Švitrigaila 22:12, 7 May 2006 (UTC) As far as I've seen, it seems rather likely your latest move request will go through; then we'll have solved the problem. ;) —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 11:22, 8 May 2006 (UTC) I think I have found the solution : I saw there was another debate about another article with several possible names : Talk:Władysław II Jagiełło. This debate has certain similarities with the Popes Stephen's case. So I sent to everyone who voted against Władysław II Jagiełło's move the same message asking them to express an opinion about Popes Stephen's move (you can see my request here, for exemple). The answers are now on Talk:Pope Stephen X. Because of the process I use, most of the voters are Polish, but I don't think it's a problem — afeter all, Jerzy is a Polish name too! >op If finally you decide the move can take place, I think it's better to move at first only Pope Stephen III into Pope Stephen II and warn me. I'll check one by one all the links pointing to this article and correct those which must be corrected and let the others. And then you can move Pope Stephen IV into Pope Stephen III, and so on... Don't forget to vote yourself. I think an administrator can vote if (s)he has something to say. Thank you for all. Švitrigaila 17:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Aye, that will turn out fine. I'll try to remember only to move them on a one-by-one basis. ;) Take care, —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 17:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Pope moves I've moved S3 to S2 now. Please tell me as soon as you've sorted out the links, so that I can move S4 to S3 next. Cheers, —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 08:48, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Thank you very much! :o)))) I've sorted all the links out. I've left only 8 links to Pope Stephen III because they point effectively to this pope. I've left all the links from talk pages and user pages, for historical reasons. I've even sorted interwikis. The only problem will be with this template. I don't know how to modify it and I think it's better to wait all the other moves have been made. I'm ready for the next step: S4 ---> S3 Švitrigaila 11:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC) I've moved S4 to S3 now. —Nightstallion (?) 11:41, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Excuse me if I'm slow, but I am working. I'm ready for the next step: S5 ---> S4. Švitrigaila 12:49, 12 May 2006 (UTC) No problem at all, take your time. S5 to S4 has been done. :) —Nightstallion (?) 12:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Done. ... It's a bit tiring ... What kind of weather do you have in Austria? ... Oh, back to work again, no time to breath? ... Then, next step: S6 --> S5. Švitrigaila 13:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC) I'd expect it to be tiring, yeah... Thanks for doing it, BTW. =] The weather is pretty spring-like in Austria currently, maybe a bit warmer than I'd prefer (around 24°C, I guess; I'd prefer 15°C–18°C =]). And in France? S6 to S5 has been done. —Nightstallion (?) 14:01, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Das war ein Stückarbeit. Ich weiß nicht sicherlich, was es meint, aber es scheint gut. ... Hier im Zentrum des Paris ist das Wetter heiß. Vielleicht zu heiß, aber es gibt hier ein Proverb: Mann soll wissen, was er will. ... Next step, please: S7 ---> S6 (a big one, I'm afraid). Švitrigaila 14:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC) I'm not quite sure I've understood all of that (I've tried translating it into English literally and then translating it into proper German =]), but... erm... Yes. Anyway. S7 is now S6. We're close to the end... ;) —Nightstallion (?) 15:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC) My German is very poor. But my Austrian is worse. I'm ready for the next move : S8 ---> S7. I hope we'll have finished before Stephen X's election. Švitrigaila 22:37, 12 May 2006 (UTC) I hope so, too; S8 to S7 has been done. =] —Nightstallion (?) 13:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC) Done. Ещё раз! S9 ---> S8. Švitrigaila 14:54, 13 May 2006 (UTC) S9 to S8 has been done, and we're almost done, too. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 17:40, 14 May 2006 (UTC) It's done! The last one now! S10 ---> S9. And you will offer the Champagne! :o) Švitrigaila 19:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Finally! ::opens the champagne, and orange juice for himself:: =] —Nightstallion (?) 20:14, 14 May 2006 (UTC) F I N I S H E D ! ! ! Finally, I'll take an orange juice too. Champagne is too hard for me. Just one orange juice, with two doses of vodka in it. It's really finished... until we learn the next pope finally decides to be Stephen XI. I've finished with this mill. I must find another crusade. I'll ask to change entirely the naming conventions. I want pope Benedict XVI to be renamed only Benedict XVI because there is no ambiguity... Are you ready to support me? :o)) Švitrigaila 21:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC) As I've said before, I don't vote in WP:RM, since I'm almost always the closing admin. ;) But I agree in principle, yes. =] —Nightstallion (?) 05:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC) BAT First, Congratulations about the source links that you added to the "EU members list" page - about would-be and would-be-not candidates! And about the British Antarctic Territory: Yes, I don't argue that this claim is suspended (by the Antarctic Treaty System), but on the BAT page itself it is written that at least some countries recognize the claim (these of the claimants that don't have overlapping with BAT - Norway, France, Australia, New Zealand. Also the French South and Antarctic Territories are listed as "excluded" on the EU members list. Even without the "antarctic" part of the name the territory is listed... The BAT is EXPLICITELY listed here: [4] as OCT. Thus it is "excluded" from the EU (I don't know if there is anywhere a better list... most treatries state wich territories are INCLUDED, so to me the most logical thing is that what is NOT INCLUDED is EXCLUDED). Alinor 17:02, 8 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for the congratulations. I try to do my work thoroughly, when I actually have time to work on featured candidates. ;) I can see your points for inclusion of the Antarctic territories, but I'd really prefer not to include them; for one, they are officially covered by the iso code ATA, and not in "French Southern Territories" or the British Antarctic Territory, which doesn't even exist as far as ISO is concerned; therefore, it'd be rather important for me not to include territory which is officially considered to be international and not under the sovereignty of any EU member state as far as the UN and ISO are concerned. Will that be okay for you? —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 17:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC) ISO is good, but I don't think that we should totaly rely only on its classification in this case. On the "include/exclude list" there are other entries without ISO-code (Akrotiri and Dhekelia). And consider that BAT has OCT status... IMHO the EU members list should draw more from the EU documents than from the UN/ISO documents, don't you think so? Alinor 18:34, 9 May 2006 (UTC) Mh. I'd still say there's a difference between A&D and the BAT, since the latter is not recognised to exist by the majority of nations under the Antarctic Treaty... Mh. ::scratches head:: Let me think about it a bit, okay? Thanks! —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:56, 10 May 2006 (UTC) Yes, they are different. But never mind A&D, let's stay focused on BAT ;). Maybe we should check in the UK Act of Accession (and subsequent changes, protocols, annexes, etc. during the years) - to see how this inclusion/exclusion is structured - if BAT is mentioned (eg. listing excluded territories) or not (eg. listing included territories). The OCT thing is related to this - we should check for the exact phrase where BAT is given OCT status... Alinor 20:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC) And, while we are at it - I think that your citations on the EU members list page would fit very nicely in the Enlargement of the European Union. Alinor 21:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC) We probably should check that, yes. Would you be so kind as to link to what you find? I'm a little hard-pressed for time currently, I'm afraid... —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC) OK, I will try. Also I was going to check for the status of the UN Buffer Zone on Cyprus too (there are some explicit mentioning about "Green Line EC regulation" and similar things, so that we may fill the blanks in the table of the "Special member state territories..." article) Alinor 07:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC) Yeah, that would be a good idea; as far as I know, the Turkish Cypriot territories and the Buffer Zone are explicitly mentioned as places where EU law is not yet applied, but I'm sure you'll find something a bit more definitive. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 13:04, 13 May 2006 (UTC) Here [5] there is the "updated" text of the "Treaty establishing the European Community (consolidated text)" - from the Official Journal C 325 of 24 December 2002. In Article 299 are listed the "included" parts and some of the excluded (SBA, Faroe) and that OCTs (excluded) are listed in Annex II. The annex is here [6]. It explicitly lists BAT and FSAT as "Southern and Antarctic", so it looks that in the EU Law the UK and France sectors are clearly recognised... About Green Line regulation I have not looked yet - it is in another documents. Alinor 18:56, 18 May 2006 (UTC) Yeah, I expected that. However, international bodies don't recognise these claims, and per NPOV, we shouldn't present them as inquestionably valid, either, should we? —Nightstallion (?) 20:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC) OK, I don't argue that EU semi-recognition ammounts to "international recognition". But I think that the fact that these territories are listed in the EU treaties shows, that the "EU Law" acknowledges AT LEAST the claims of France/UK; their suspension (under ATS) is obviously also recognised (as both France and UK have signed/ratified the ATS, as well as maybe all other 23 EU members), but SUSPENSION (for undefined time period) of a claim does not mean DROPPING of this claim. Maybe sometime in the future the ATS would be reworked and the claims totaly dropped or again rised. This doesn't matter in our case, I think. We have to take a decision about "Should we list these territories or not on page "List of EU ..."?". Let's look at one hypothetical example: there is a Caribbean Treaty System and all claims to Caribbean islands are suspended. There is also a EU Treaty that states: "The EU Law does not apply to Faroes islands and New Polynesia. The EU Law applies to Gibraltar, Azores, Guadeloupe and Bermuda." Would we then list Guadeloupe and Bermuda as "included", even when claims over them are suspended? I think that we should. It the case of BAT it is "easier" to be removed, becouse it is "excluded from EU Law application". But what if it was "included"? Regardless of the status of the claim, the territory is covered or not covered by EU law application. The claim status and EU coverage are two different things. Of course a note about ATS/claim suspension can/should be added... Alinor 08:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Could you check my changes and see whether you're okay with them? —Nightstallion (?) 09:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 8th. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 2, Issue 19 8 May 2006 About the Signpost New worldwide rankings show Wikipedia strength outside US Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages News and Notes: Milestones Wikipedia in the News Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report On Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. Toledo, Spain Greetings, Nightstallion! I'm afraid I don't see the point in your adding commentary to the debate over moving Toledo, Spain to Toledo after you closed the same. While I try to assume good faith, I'm having a hard time understanding what would have persuaded you to do this, aside from such bad faith reasons as trying to get the last word in, or persuade people to take an "Old World" bias for the next such debate. (I've learned from Dartmouth and Windsor that these issues arise rather frequently.) Can you elucidate? -- SwissCelt 14:34, 11 May 2006 (UTC) What exactly is the problem with me adding a personal opinion? I don't vote in WP:RM, precisely for the reason that I don't want to have the decisive vote in any proposition, but I don't think ethics prohibit me from adding my personal thoughts on the proposal as soon as it's closed. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 14:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Well, I think the problem was that you added these thoughts as soon as the vote was closed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think other editors would have that luxury. A closed vote is just that: Closed, and the matter presumably resolved. While I won't say that the closing admin shouldn't have a personal opinion on the matter, I question the wisdom of sharing that opinion immediately after voting has concluded. Please understand, too, that I'm not accusing you of any impropriety. (Indeed, you deserve praise for concluding the matter counter to your own opinion!) I simply want to come to an understanding on the matter. -- SwissCelt 18:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Mh, I can see your point, but I explicitly placed my comment outside the "off-limits" area of the original vote – you can still tell me that you think my opinion sucks or that you simply don't agree or whatever, I just closed the vote *and* added an opinion in the same edit. Would you prefer if I did that in two distinct, subsequent edits in the future to make it clear that I'm speaking as a normal user, and not as the closing admin? —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC) U.S. Route 101 When you make moves, please fix double redirects. Thanks. --SPUI (T - C - RFC) 23:37, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Usually, I do. (Check my contributions, everything labelled "dblrdr" or similar is exactly that.) If I don't, it would most likely be quicker to do it yourself than to tell me to do it. Still, thanks for reminding me. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 05:50, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Bath Impact Just wanted to thank you for moving Bath Impact. The old name looked kind of strange! Trampled Wikipedia talk:German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board#Magyars of Burgenland Somebody asked for input regarding a naming convention. As you are both Austrian and interested in naming conventions, I was wondering whether you could help? I'm not certain we actually have Austrians reading the noticeboard, so I thought I'd write an extra message. Kusma (討論) 16:28, 12 May 2006 (UTC) Move of Okino Torishima to Okinotori This is very nonsense as a name of an island. Please refer to Google Scholar. Okino Torishima is the most commonly used name in scientific articles. Should be at least Okinotori Island. I didn't even know such a foolish vote is ongoing. Isorhiza 17:25, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Community Justice Newsletter Community Justice Newsletter Welcome Previously, various notices regarding Community Justice have gone out to our members; though this is the first actual newsletter. This issue will contain information regarding decisions made on the first meeting, our new council, and more...! If you wish to unsubscribe to future newsletters, please add your name to Wikipedia:Community Justice/Do Not Spam. New Council Following our first elections, a new council has been elected.Computerjoe and Ian13 remain as chairman and chief executive (respectively); while Eddieh, Wiki alf and Xchrisblackx are replaced as councillors by Ilyanep, Osbus and Covington. The Giant Puffin and Pureblade remain as councillors. Member Conduct In the last meeting, the conduct of 4 members was discussed. 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If any other name is better, Cfvh could make a new move request. - I did not see that there had been a discussion, but having now seen it, I conclude that there was no binding decision, the poll is already quite old, NC discussion went stale, and the name to which I moved it is quite good. There are always natives of some language who are in difficulty if asked to use English in regard to terms and names known to them in their own language, such as biographies of Germans to German-speakers, and we may be stuck with their possibly erroneous perceptions. There is the policy of BE BOLD, and I think for moving the page in question it was quite good instruction. Shilkanni 04:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC) I would tend to agree that the earlier WP:RM discussion is not relevant to *this* move; it would have been better if you had checked the talk page first, Shilkanni, but I don't think this was done in bad faith; if you really believe it should be moved back, Charles, you can always get input from other editors interested via an RM. 's that okay? —Nightstallion (?) 05:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC) Signpost updated for May 15th. The Wikipedia Signpost Weekly Delivery Volume 2, Issue 20 15 May 2006 About the Signpost Publicity surrounds Chinese site reusing Wikipedia content German chapter prevails in Tron appeal Meetups And Newsworthy International Assemblages News and Notes: Time 100 Gala, milestones Wikipedia in the News Features and admins Bugs, Repairs, and Internal Operational News The Report On Lengthy Litigation Home  |  Archives  |  Newsroom  |  Tip Line You are receiving this message because you have signed up for the Signpost spamlist. If you wish to stop receiving these messages, simply remove your name from the list. ISO 8601 you state you like ISO standards. how about ISO 8601? Additionally, ISO 639 contains differents codes, and if you use the two letter codes you cannot code very much languages. So I use ISO 639-3 even if it is still a draft. It's also used by SIL/ethnologue now. I would like WP to switch to 639-3 and to abandon the mixture of 639-1 with 639-2 and self defined codes. Isn't is discriminating that some language WP's have to use three letter codes while some can use two only? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 12:34, 16 May 2006 (UTC) I prefer to write out months in letters, but apart from that, 8601 is quite solid, if a bit complicated for practical use. As soon as 639-3 is out of the drafting phase, I'd also advocate a switch from the current Wikimedia system to a consistent one, keeping redirects to the new locations in place for some time, of course. If you need my help with campaigning for that switch to happen, just tell me so. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 12:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC) great :-). We would need to improve meta:Language_codes and ISO 639-3. And then gather support maybe especially among speakers of non-two-letter-code-having languages. E.g. Cebuano. I saw other WP in Philippine languages, can't remember now. Another idea I once had was meta:Single domain and getting rid of the "wiki" in the URL path. Currently I would favor <projectname>.wikimedia.org/<lang>/<articlename>. Maybe you like to have a look overthere. best regards Tobias Conradi (Talk) 13:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC) the EU flag at the left bottom sometimes hides parts of the left hand navigation. I use the old skin. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 13:50, 16 May 2006 (UTC) Scrolling down helps. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 06:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC) can you do it for me as default? :-? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 14:30, 17 May 2006 (UTC) move arpad d. Could you kindly move House of Arpad to Arpad dynasty. I mean "Arpad dynasty" without diacriticals. I would otherwise do it by myself, but there is alreafy a page with a slight edit history. Shilkanni 22:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC) Done (with diacritics). —Nightstallion (?) 06:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Hey... (Euopean Union) For the article that lists the nations of the European Union, I added that Bosnia along with Serbia are in the preliminary stages of European entry. For example talks over European entry for Serbia are stopped until Mladic and Karadic are apprehended. I just wanted to point that out that talks have begun. The same goes for BiH, It has also started talks. I will send you some links to verify this. Thanks, Kseferovic 23:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC) I've reverted, because the information is in the second table and your change was factually wrong: Albania is actually closer to EU membership than BiH and SiM. —Nightstallion (?) 06:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Pretenders Ernst August Please see Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (names and titles)#Ernest Aug. and constibute to the discussion there. I look forward to people assessing UE:should English be used in all these cases and how; would any sort of numeral be acceptable; Is there any other sustainable way to disambiguate these systematically. Shilkanni 10:53, 17 May 2006 (UTC) move from Sidhoji rao shitole to Yogiraj Gurunath Siddhanath Nightstallion, I think you made that move prematurely without taking a look at what was going on. This was a deep-seated, long standing issue. I asked that it be a simple redirect, not a move which deletes the edit history of the original page, as that page was protected from editing. The only reason they asked for a move was in order to subvert the protection of that original page, since they couldn't edit it directly. I'd like to ask you to take a look at the talk page of the Sidhoji Rao Shitole page carefully to understand that this move was not fully supported, and admin Jossi was still mediating the interaction. Please reinstate the full edit history of the original Yogiraj Gurunath Siddhanath page before the move. Hamsacharya dan 17:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Re: Userboxes (yet another proposal) Seeing how you opposed the first question on Mackensen's Poll (arguably the most important), I would like to show you my essay on what should be done with userboxes. It is hopefully a new and unseen way of resolving this conflict. Thanks, // The True Sora 20:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC) Move advice Hi. You moved Quebec City, Quebec to Quebec City in January 2006, pursuant to a RM. Earlier today, the article was unilaterally moved back, without explanation. Is there some version of "speedy RM", or do you recommend that I initiate a regular RM request to reverse the move? Thanks. --Skeezix1000 17:35, 19 May 2006 (UTC) Thank-you The count is in, and now I join the crew who wield the mops and pails. Thanks for your support! I pledge to serve both you and Jimbo Wales. If you have anything you need, then please don't think to hesitate. For I am the very model of a grateful admin designate! ♫Bucketsofg✐♪ Hi I've dabble with WP and am looking make some contributions. I voted for you to because an admin a few months ago, how are things going for you? -- Mostly Rainy 01:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC) Quite fine, thanks. What areas would you like to participate and contribute in? —Nightstallion (?) 11:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC) Well, I generally have been working in the AFD pages. I actually learned how to close discussions with a keep consensous. I also created a few ref pages. Check my contribs. 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Alexander, Prince of Yugoslavia Hi Nightstallion; Could you move this page to Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia? All the other members of the former royal family are under that format and it seems it would be a bit of a waste to go to WP:RM for it. Charles 16:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC) Userpage Hello! Its been a while since I last sent a message. Just so you know, you might want to raise the floating European Flag by a bit; it currently overlaps with the yellow bar at the bottom of the page. SMURRAY|IN|CHESTER 20:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks, but... what yellow bar? —Nightstallion (?) 20:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC) Ancient Greek Wikisource I understand from your userboxes you're interested in Ancient Greek. I've submitted a proposal to add an Ancient Greek Wikisource on Meta, and I'd be very grateful if you could assist me by either voting in Support of the proposal, or even adding your name as one of the contributors in the template. (NB: I'm posting this to a lot of people, so please reply to my talkpage or to Meta) --Nema Fakei 20:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC) I've supported it. Keep me posted. —Nightstallion (?) 20:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC) Status Thank you; it's good to be back. --Merovingian {T C @} 13:32, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Boilerplating active discussions at Talk:Beersheba Hi. Please do not encompass active article talk page discussions with an RfM boilerplate. I did not participate in a RfM, yet your boilerplating suggests I did, and instructs editors —falsely— not to continue to contribute to those threaded discussions on the talk page. Thank you. El_C 17:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC) I haven't always got time to check the intricate details of the talk pages I visit when doing WP:RM, sorry. —Nightstallion (?) 17:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Hi again, and thanks for the prompt reply. No problem; please keep an eye for such an oversight in the future. Regards, El_C 18:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC) I'll try to. Thank for your understanding. —Nightstallion (?) 19:06, 25 May 2006 (UTC) Question from Evan Robidoux Hi, Nightstallion. My name is Evan Robidoux. I noticed your name under the list of users that want to be reviewed (Wikipedia:Editor review.) I was wondering if you could do me a favour and review me. Thanks! --Evan Robidoux 00:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Montenegro Thanks for separating Serbia and Montenegro in the EU member states article map; could you do the same for a number of other articles? Would be great. =] Just say if so, then I can give you a list. You should upload the new map on top of the old one, though, not under a new file name. —Nightstallion (?) 05:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Sure I'll do it (Change the maps) for all of the images. Just give me all of the article names and I will do it as soon as possible. Thanks, Kseferovic 11:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC) It will take some time, though, since there's really a *lot* of maps to be updated, and not all are even categorised correctly... Another problem will be that we may run into trouble with people who think the maps should only be updated once Montenegro is entirely independent... We should probably wait until independence is offially proclaimed, aye? —Nightstallion (?) 11:47, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Hey, I got your messages. My map is correct. The image[[8]] shows Montenegro and Kosovo. Kosovo is currently controlled by the UN but technically it is still in Serbia. Kosovo is viewed as an autonomous province (entity) within Serbia. If it ever officially splits from Serbia then we will add it to the map. (Serbia has no control over Kosovo and only about 4% of Serbs live there, Albanians are the main ethnic group). Thanks, Kseferovic 19:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC) My point is that the borders differ in the two maps, and the Euro_accession.PNG map's borders look very much more correct to me... —Nightstallion (?) 19:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC) On second thought, I'm not quite so sure any more which map's borders are more correct. sighs Complicated... —Nightstallion (?) 19:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Requested moves Hi Nightstallion, a requested move of Gilo (neighborhood) --> Gilo (now a redirect) was deleted by you, along with everything from 2006-05-21, to the best of my knowledge without a resolution. As I'm a bit of a noob, could you explain to me how to proceed to achieve a move? Cheers, TewfikTalk 21:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC) It seemed there was ongoing discussion on the issue, but no need or possibility for admin intervention, so I let it be. If there's any reason for me to step in, please just tell me, but it seemed you were just discussing happily. =] —Nightstallion (?) 21:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks, we actually had (happily =]) agreed to move Gilo (neighborhood) to Gilo. If you don't mind making the move, we'd both appreciate it. All the best, TewfikTalk 22:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Sure, done. =] —Nightstallion (?) 22:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks a bunch, Cheers TewfikTalk 23:04, 26 May 2006 (UTC) Fianlly, an userbox compromise that seems popular I think we've come up with something that's got overwhelming support. Please chime in here. --Dragon695 05:38, 27 May 2006 (UTC) Concordia newsletter Concordia Newsletter Community Justice is no more. It has been reformed to Concordia. Membership has been transferred. Concordia is an organization of editors on Wikipedia that strive to encourage civility and fair treatment among all editors in the Wikipedian community, from the Wikignome to the Wikiholic. 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Švitrigaila 14:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Template:Country flag alias Mayotte Just because it's official to France doesn't mean it's not "official" to the people of Mayotte. The CIA World Factbook usually doesn't include unofficial flags, so there has to be something behind this one being official to the people of Mayotte (perhaps a declaration by the overseas collectivity's parliament that it is the flag, but a declaration not recognized by France). This would make the flag more than just a popular but totally unofficial flag, and would make it acceptable to set as the flag of Mayotte on Wikipedia.  OZLAWYER  talk  15:40, 28 May 2006 (UTC) That's of no importance. It's not the official flag, and therefore, it should and will not be used in the Wikipedia templates, as those use the official flags. —Nightstallion (?) 07:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Deletion I'm rather confused about the process for Deletion. There are two redirect pages that need to be deleted: ECW on Sci-Fi and List of gangs (The Shield). What do i have to do Kyros 22:47, 28 May 2006 (UTC) I've deleted them for you. —Nightstallion (?) 07:44, 29 May 2006 (UTC) Thank you for your comments in Lar's RfA! We are here to build an encyclopedia! Hi Nightstallion, and thank you for your support in my request for adminship! With a final tally of (109/5/1), I have been entrusted with adminship. It's been several weeks since the conclusion of the process, so hopefully you've had a chance to see me in action. Please let me know what you think! Thanks again! PS you have one of the slickest appearing talk pages I know... ++Lar: t/c 03:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC) Adverts: Like The Beatles?... Like LEGO?... In a WikiProject that classifies?... Are you an accountable admin?... Got DYK?...