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==Cut-off point==
|Name = LBC Crew
I may do some more research and lower the cut-off point to 30 deaths. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 15:15, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
|Img = LBC Crew collage.jpg
: Yes, I've often heard the [[Kings Cross fire]] described as "one of the worst disasters", but at 31 deaths it doesn't make the list. [[User:Zoganes|Zoganes]] 16:28, 2005 Jan 9 (UTC)
|Img_capt = From left:Tray Deee, Techniec, Bad Azz, South Sentrelle, Lil C-Style from their music video "Beware of my crew"
:: Ah. I've just added a disaster which has always been regarded using that word, and had great impact on the psyche of local people, but had a death toll of "only" 32. Sorry, I hadn't noticed the cut-off. To make matters worse, I see it's in the list of smaller disasters on this page. Specifically, it was a ferry disaster ([[Torry]], [[Aberdeen]]), and was bad enough to prompt a bridge to be built. I think King's Cross, mentioned above, is also an obvious case of a disaster (by reason of the impact on people's perceptions of their safety, and by reason of the expenditure across the tube system which resulted.) So, in short, I vote for reducing the limit to 30! Or better still, justifying inclusion by something more sensitive than merely numbers. I'll remove the 32-deaths entry for now, but look forward to a discussion of the number here! :) &ndash; [[User:kierant|<font color="#006600">Kieran T</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:kierant|''<font color="#006600">talk</font>'']] | [[Special:Contributions/User:kierant|<font color="#006600">contribs</font>]])</sup> 00:09, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
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:::It is a tricky problem -- when I started working on this, I put in a cut off point to make it possible to aim for a completely inclusive list -- mainly because below a certain level, the sheer number of shipwrecks and coal mine disasters becomes unmanageable. But it does lead to some rather odd exclusions, hence the addendum [[Talk:List_of_United_Kingdom_disasters_by_death_toll#Smaller_disasters]]. We could include "Other notable disasters" or "Selected smaller disasters" as a subsection on the main page, but then how do we define "notable"? Other options might be (as you say) to reduce the cut-off point slightly, though that still leaves odd omissions, eg Great Fire of London. OR, include only post-19th century smaller disasters ? Any other thoughts? --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 12:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
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I think there are too many shipwrecks! Perhaps they should be excluded, or separated into their own section or article. Seperating disasters occuring on UK land from those involving UK citizens at sea or abroad could help. [[Special:Contributions/86.21.227.237|86.21.227.237]] ([[User talk:86.21.227.237|talk]]) 22:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
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|Origin = [[Long Beach, California]]
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|Genre = [[Gangsta rap]]<br/>[[West Coast hip hop]]
|Occupation = [[Rapping]]
|Years_active = [[1995]] - [[1998]]
|Label = [[Doggystyle Records|Doggystyle]], [[Death Row Records|Death Row]]
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|Past_members = [[Tray Deee]]<br> [[Techniec]]<br> [[Bad Azz (rapper)|Bad Azz]]<br> South Sentrell<br> [[Lil C-Style]]
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The '''''LBC Crew''''' ('''''Long Beach Crip Crew''''') were a short-lived collective of [[Long Beach, California|Long Beach]]-based rappers. They were the first act to be executively-produced by [[Snoop Dogg]]. In 1997, The LBC Crew were signed to [[Doggystyle Records]], a label operated by Snoop and distributed through Snoop's then record label, [[Death Row Records]].
==Record==
As far as I can tell, '''''[[RMS Titanic]]''''' still holds the "record" for the greatest verifiable British loss of life in a single incident in peacetime -- is this true? --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 15:15, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)


There is a full LBC Crew album called "Our City", although it was never released, it is floating around the internet, LBC Crew had a hit single with the song "Beware Of My Crew", from the [[A Thin Line Between Love and Hate]] soundtrack. They were also prominently featured on Snoop Dogg's second album [[Tha Doggfather]]. The group disbanded following the collapse of Death Row. Since then, unreleased material from the group emerged on the underground.
== Major expansion ==


Most of the LBC Crew remained visible figures in West-Coast hip-hop. Prior to his incarceration, Tray-Dee was part of the successful rap-trio, [[Tha Eastsidaz]]. Bad Azz released two solo albums under the Doggy Style imprint. Lil C-Style remained part of unorganized Death Row camp. And Techniec recently signed to [[The Game (rapper)|The Game]]'s [[The Black Wall Street Records]].
Major expansion done, esp of aircrash and mine disasters.


==The Break-Up==
I have noted that: ''[Temporarily, 19th century mining disasters have been omitted, and 1900-1950 mining disasters have been omitted except where fatalities exceeded 100.]'' -- this is for sake of clarity while I do further research. There are very many mine disasters, eg:
Early on in the LBC Crew's lifespan, a small dispute broke out between Lil C-Style and Snoop Dogg over C-Style's royalties (he claimed he wasn't being paid enough for them). The argument was never settled, resulting in C-Style damaging the original tape of LBC's debut album beyond repair, and telling Snoop he no longer wanted to be part of the group.<ref>[http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/snoopdogg07/part4/ dubcnn.com // Snoop Dogg Interview Part 4 (January 2007) // West Coast News Network //<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
* 325 ?? - Prince of Wales Colliery mining disaster, [[Abercarn]] [[11 September]] [[1878]]
* 281 - Albion Colliery mining disaster, [[Cilfynydd]], [[25 June]] [[1894]]
* 110 - [[Park Slip]] mining disaster, [[1892]]
* 82 - Universal Colliery mining disaster, [[Senghenydd]], [[Caerphilly]], [[24 May]] [[1901]]
* 57 - Ferndale Colliery, [[Tylorstown]] mining disaster, [[28 January]] [[1896]]
* 52 - Marine Colliery mining disaster, [[Cwm]], [[Monmouthshire]], [[1 March]] [[1927]]


==Members==
--[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 17:17, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
*[[Tray Deee]] ('''Tracy Lamar Davis''')
*[[Techniec]] (original member) ('''David Keith Williams III''')
*[[Bad Azz]] (original member) ('''Jamarr Antonio Stamps''')
*[[Lil' C-Style]] (original member) ('''Ronald Gillion''')
*[[South Sentrell]] (sometimes spelled Cintrell, Cinema, Mz. South 'Sentral, SO. Sentrelle or Ms. South Central) ('''Sentrelle Connerly''')


==Discography==
== Cause of death per year. ==
*''Haven't You Heard? (We Givin' Something Bacc To The Street)'' (cancelled)
**"Haven't You Heard"(Unreleased)
**"Blueberry" (originally recorded for the album later included in ''[[Tha Doggfather]]'')
**"Gold Rush" (originally recorded for the album later included in ''Tha Doggfather'')
**"Out the Moon /Boom, Boom, Boom/" (originally recorded for the album later included in ''[[Gridlock'd (OST)]]''
**"Dippin' In My Low-Low" (re-recorded with Shaquille O'Neal for an unreleased Shaq project)
**"I Just Wanna Be From D.P.G."(Unreleased)
**"Get Up To Get down"(Unreleased)
**"Feels So Good" (Originally recorded for the album later included in ''[[Deathrow Archives]]''
*1996: ''Our City'' (Unreleased Album)
*1995: ''[[A Thin Line Between Love and Hate]] soundtrack'' ([[Warner Bros. Records]])
**LBC Crew : "Beware of my crew EP" #75 US, #51 R&B, #8 Rap, #23 Dance-Maxi
*1995: ''The Show Soundtrack'' ([[Def Jam]])
**"Droppin Bombz" (Tray Deee, So. Sentrelle)
*1998: ''19th Street LBC Compilation'' (19th Street Recods)
**"Flossin'" (Tray Deee, Bad Azz, Lil' C-Style) (re-up)


==Filmography==
Accidents like road accidents occur in ones and twos and would never appear on this list ... could we have a section for '''cause of death per year''' which might list the total number of various kinds of accidents per year to help put things in perspective?
*[[List of Soul Train episodes#Season 25 (1995-1996)|February 24, 1996]] : [[Soul Train]]
**Season 25, Episode 817 - themselves
*1997 : Rhyme & Reason - themselves ([[Miramax]])


==References==
=== Cause of Death per Year===
<references/>
** 1234 Road Accident
*[http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1800283854/cast Rhyme & Reason] at [[Yahoo! Movies]]
** 456 Drownings
*[http://www.dubcnn.com/interviews/badazz/ Bad Azz interview on DubCNN about LBC Crew]
** 30 Slipped on Banana Skin.
* {{tvtome person|id=170499|title=LBC Crew}}


{{Snoop Dogg}}
[[User:Tabletop|Tabletop]] 09:45, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)


[[Category:Snoop Dogg]]
:You could certainly create a new list on that basis, something like "List of UK fatalities by cause of death". This particular list is quite tightly defined as "a list of major disasters (excluding acts of [[war]]) which occurred in the [[United Kingdom]] or involved UK citizens, in a definable incident... so I don't think it would be appropriate as a section here. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 08:55, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
[[Category:American hip hop groups]]
[[Category:West Coast hip hop groups]]
[[Category:Los Angeles musical groups]]


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== Smaller disasters ==

The current artificial cut-off point of 40 excludes a number of significant disasters, a rough list might be as follows:

'''Other notable disasters'''
* 40 &ndash; Landshipping mine, [[Haverfordwest]] Colliery mining disaster, [[West Wales]],[[14th February]] [[1844]]
* 40 &ndash; Morfa mine, [[Port Talbot]] Colliery mining disaster, [[South Wales]],[[17th October]] [[1863]]
* 39 &ndash; Standard mine, [[Ynyshir]] Colliery mining disaster, [[South Wales]],[[18th February]] [[1887]]
* 38 &ndash; [[Pentre]], [[Rhondda]] Colliery mining disaster, [[South Wales Valleys]],[[24th February]] [[1871]]
* 36 &ndash; Gethin mine, [[Merthyr Tydfil]] Colliery mining disaster, [[South Wales]],[[20th December]] [[1865]]
* 35 &ndash; [[Risca]] Blackvein mine disaster (named Risca Deathpit) Colliery mining disaster, [[South Wales]],[[14th January]] [[1846]]
* 39 &ndash; [[BOAC Comet 1 G-ALYP accident]], 1954 [[explosive decompression]] mid flight over the [[Mediterranean Sea|Med]] on flight from Rome to [[London Heathrow]]
* 39 &ndash; [[Heysel Stadium disaster]], [[Heysel Stadium]], [[29 May]] [[1985]]
* 38 &ndash; [[HMS Albion (1898)|HMS ''Albion'']] launch disaster, [[Thames Iron Works]], [[1898]]
* 38 or 25 ??? &ndash; French destroyer ''[[Maillé-Brézé]]'' sunk by own torpedoes, [[Tail of the Bank]], [[Greenock]], Scotland, [[30 April]] [[1940]]
* 36 &ndash; [[Ellan Vannin (ship)|SS ''Ellan Vannin'']] shipwreck, [[Liverpool Bay]], 3 - 4 December [[1909]]
* 35 &ndash; [[Clapham Junction rail crash]], [[12 December]] [[1988]]
*34 &ndash; [[Shipton-on-Cherwell train crash]], [[24 December]][[1874]]
* 34 &ndash; [[Lynmouth]] flood, 15-16 August, [[1952]]
* 34 &ndash; [[KLM Constellation air disaster 1948]]
* 33 &ndash; [[Abergele train disaster]], [[20 August]] [[1868]]
* 33 &ndash; [[Burnden Park]] disaster, football stadium panic, [[Bolton]], [[9 March]] [[1946]]
* 32 &ndash; [[River Dee Ferry Boat Disaster]], between [[Torry]] and [[Aberdeen]], [[5 April]] [[1876]]
*32 &ndash; [[HMS K13|HMS ''K13'']], sank in [[Gareloch]], [[19 January]] [[1917]]
* 31 &ndash; [[Kings Cross fire]], [[18 November]] [[1987]]
* 31 &ndash; [[Ladbroke Grove rail crash]], [[5 October]] [[1999]]
* 29 &ndash; [[Chinook Helicopter Crash (1994)]], [[2 June]] [[1994]], [[Mull of Kintyre]]
* 28 &ndash; [[Southport and St Anne's lifeboats disaster]], [[9 December]] [[1886]]
* 28 &ndash; [[King David Hotel bombing]], [[Jerusalem]], [[22 July]] [[1946]] ''[28 British fatalities out of 91]''
* 28 &ndash; [[Flixborough disaster]] chemical explosion, [[Lincolnshire]], [[1 June]] [[1974]]
* 27 &ndash; [[British European Airways|BEA]] [[Vickers Viking]] G-AJDL crash, [[RAF Nutts Corner|Belfast-Nutts Corner Airport]], [[5 January]] [[1953]] [http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19530105-0&lang=en] (worst air disaster in Northern Ireland)
*26 &ndash; [[Ibrox disaster|First Ibrox disaster]], Glasgow, [[5 April]] [[1902]]
*24 &ndash; [[1951 Gillingham bus disaster]] a bus ploughs into a large group of [[Royal Marines Cadets]] at night
* 23 &ndash; Louth storm, [[Louth, Lincolnshire]], [[29 May]] [[1920]]
* 23 &ndash; [[Munich air disaster]], [[6 February]] [[1958]]
* 22 &ndash; [[Waco Siege]], [[Waco, Texas]], [[28 February]] [[1993]] ''[22 of 74 fatalities were British nationals]''
* 22 &ndash; Clarkston gas explosion, [[Clarkston, Glasgow]], [[21 October]] [[1971]]
* 22 &ndash; British European Airways Flight "Bealine 411" operated by Vickers Viscount 701 G-ALWE &ndash; crash on approach to [[Manchester Airport]], [[14 March]] [[1957]] (20 occupants plus 2 ground fatalities).
*22 – [[British U class submarine]] [[HMS Umpire (N82)|HMS ''Umpire'' (N82)]], sank after surface collision with trawler, [[19 July]] [[1941]]
*21 &ndash; [[Stotfield fishing disaster]], [[Moray Firth]], [[25 December]] [[1806]]
* 21 &ndash; [[Morecambe Bay cockling disaster 2004]], [[Morecambe Bay]], [[5 February]] [[2004]] (21 Chinese cocklers noted in manslaughter trial, 2 other bodies not recovered)
* 20 &ndash; [[Sikorsky S-61 disaster 1983]] en route to [[Isles of Scilly]], [[16 July]] [[1983]]
* 18 &ndash; [[Dunblane massacre]] two [[.357 Magnum]]s and two other pistols fired at school children in a [[murder-suicide]] [fatalities incl. perpetrator]
* 18 &ndash; [[Great Storm of 1987]]
* 18 &ndash; [[Markham Colliery disaster]], colliery cage plummets down the shaft, Derbyshire, [[31 July]] [[1973]]
* 17 &ndash; [[Hungerford massacre]] a [[spree killer]] with an [[AK-47]], [[M1 Carbine]] and [[Beretta]] pistol [fatalities incl. perpetrator]
* 16 &ndash; [[Great Fire of London]], [[2 September]] to [[5 September]] [[1666]]
* 16 &ndash; [[Penlee lifeboat disaster]], attempts to rescue the crew of a [[Coastal trading vessel]], a week before Christmas, [[18 December]] [[1981]]
* 15 &ndash; [[1979 Fastnet race]] called off in [[Beaufort scale|Force 7]] [[European windstorm]] in the [[English Channel]]
* 15 – [[Gillingham, Kent|Gillingham]] [[Fire Brigade]] public demonstration disaster, [[11 July]] [[1929]], a public demonstration by Gillingham Fire Brigade went tragically wrong, resulting in 15 fatalities [http://www.medway.gov.uk/index/leisure/localhistory/timeline/17909/firemanswedding.htm Medway Council: "Fireman's wedding disaster" ]
* 14 &ndash; [[1928 Thames flood]], London, January 1928
*14 &ndash; mysterious death of [[Prince George, Duke of Kent]] and aircrew (1 survivor) in [[Short Sunderland]] aircrash near [[Dunbeath]], Caithness, [[25 August]] [[1942]]
* 13 &ndash; experimental torpedo explodes on board submarine [[HMS Sidon (P259)|HMS ''Sidon'' (P259)]], [[Portland Harbour]], [[16 June]] [[1955]]
* 12 &ndash; [[Taunton sleeping car fire]], [[6 July]] [[1978]]
* 11 – [[European windstorm]] [[Kyrill (storm)|"Kyrill"]], [[18 January]] [[2007]] ''[UK deaths only]''
* 11 &ndash; [[HMS A1|HMS ''A1'']], sunk by RMS ''Berwick Castle'', Solent, [[18 March]] [[1904]]; Royal Navy's first fatal submarine loss
* 10 &ndash; [[Staplehurst rail crash]], [[Charles Dickens]] survives, [[9 June]] [[1865]]
* 10 &ndash; [[SS City of Brussels|SS ''City of Brussels'']] (Inman Line) (3,747 tons) sank at entrance to the River Mersey in 1883 after collision in fog with SS ''Kirby Hall'', [[Liverpool Bay]], [[7 January]] [[1883]]
* 10 &ndash; New Zealand army soldiers mown down by an express train, [[Bere Ferrers railway station]], Devon, [[24 September]] [[1917]]
* 7 &ndash; [[St Ives, Cornwall|St Ives]] [[RNLI]] [[lifeboat (rescue)|lifeboat]] disaster, [[23 January]] [[1939]]
* 6 &ndash; [[The Great Thunderstorm, Widecombe|The Great Thunderstorm]], [[Widecombe-in-the-Moor]], Devon, [[21 October]] [[1638]]
* 6 &ndash; [[Pye Nest]] [[tram]] disaster near [[Halifax, West Yorkshire|Halifax]], [[15 October]] [[1907]]
*6 &ndash; [[Avro Vulcan]] air crash, [[Luqa]], [[Malta]], [[14 October]] [[1975]] (5 of 7 [[No. IX Squadron RAF]] crew plus 1 Maltese civilian shopper killed, 20 injured)
*5 &ndash; Big Dipper ([[Roller coaster]]) accident [[Battersea Park]], [[30 May]] [[1972]]
*3 &ndash; [[Dogger Bank incident]] - 3 trawlermen killed by [[Russian Baltic Fleet]], 1904
* 2 &ndash; [[London Tornado of 1091]], [[17 October]] [[1091]]

--[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 12:41, 4 August 2007 (UTC) // updated --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] ([[User talk:Mervyn|talk]]) 10:12, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

==Mining disasters==
I've removed the note about mining disasters as we have at least one in the list, and there is no reason for them not to be here unless someone feels that there are so many there should be a separate list? [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] 11:11, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Have completed listing of mining disasters for 20th century -- some bigger 19th c disaasters are listed, but not complete yet for this period [[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 16:20, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

==Empress of Ireland==
Should the [[Empress of Ireland]] be on this list? She was owned by the [[Canadian Pacific]], so she was not a British ship. As she was sailing for Liverpool many of her passengers would have been British, but how many? Do we have figures for the no. of British casualties in other major sinkings involving non-British ships? [[User:PatGallacher|PatGallacher]] 12:25, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

:A good point, am not that familiar with this ship, so could do with further research. However, probably enough Brits to justify it being included here. Like many other entries, probably needs some qualification, but I tend to think that explanations about precise lists of dead etc. are best left to the main disaster article link, with this list serving as a quick pointer with a few notes where needed. [[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 20:14, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

::Removed. Neither a British ship, nor an event in British waters. [[User:Eclecticology|Eclecticology]] 06:19, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

:::But ''[[Empress of Ireland]]'' might still validly be listed based on the large number of British casualties. No figures are available that I can trace, so may be best to leave her out pending clarification. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 15:51, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

== table ==

this page would look better in a table

[[User:86.141.159.71|86.141.159.71]] 18:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

:Its certainly worth copying a section of it to a temporary page to see how it will look. If you register as a user then you can do this as a subpage of your userpage. I'm converting [[List of London Underground stations]] into table format - [[User:Thryduulf/List of London Underground stations in table format]]. I started out doing the A section to get the table right, etc. and see what others thought of it. As it was agreed it looks nice I'm in the process of converting all of it - but its a bigger job than you might think (I've only done A-L so far!). [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] 19:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

::It may benefit, but am not sure. '''[[List of disasters in Australia by death toll]]''' works as a table because it is much shorter, and includes primary info and references. This list is much longer, and mainly serves as a link list to lead people to the relevant disaster article, so may be overcomplicating it to change it into a table. But yes, may be worth trying a temp page if someone wants a go??? [[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 20:24, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

I've set up a page in my userspace where I've put the first section into table format. See [[User:Thryduulf/List of United Kingdom disasters by death toll (table)]]. I'll not do any more until I've received comments on whether people think the table format is good, and/or if anything should be changed. Also, feel free to experiment there youselves. [[User:Thryduulf|Thryduulf]] 16:28, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
:Many thanks for your work on this. It looks good. Am still not sure, but I think I prefer the existing list. It's purely a personal thing, but for me the linear list seems less "intimidating" than a table. Purely personal, I will look again, and let's see what others think. [[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 19:12, 11 February 2006 (UTC)


==Sweating sickness==

I wanted to add [[sweating sickness]] to this list, but I'm having problems with its placement. Thousands of britons died in the 1485 outbreak alone, and in 1517 some towns lost a third to a half of their inhabitants to it, etc, etc .... But with quite vague figures like this (and a lot more references simply to "many" and "multitudes" of people dying) I don't know where or how exactly to incorporate it into this list. [[User:Fabiform|fabiform]] 11:31, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

:Thanks for mentioning this ... Yes I think a ref should go in -- always difficult to quantify these early historical figures. Let's follow the main article [[sweating sickness]] which says "it killed several thousand people" -- detailed discussion and refinement of fataliites can continue there. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 19:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

== Herald of Free Enterprise ==

Considering this incident took place just outside the Port of Zeebruge in Dutch territorial waters, does it really belong in a list of United Kingdom disasters, the only link this disaster has with the UK is that a number of British citizens perished in the disaster and the ship belonged to a British company. I would suggest this entry be removed as it did not take place within the UK and is therefore not a UK disaster in the traditional sense. [[User:JonEastham|JonEastham]] 22:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:The List follows the definition given in the intro ... "which occurred in the United Kingdom or involved UK citizens" ... and so, like ''Titanic'', a disaster anywhere involving a British ship with British passengers would be considered relevant. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 22:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

== 9/11 and 7/7 ==

I don't think they should be included as they were premeditated attacks and if they are included then surely various IRA and WWI and WWII attacks should be included. --[[User:Ebz123|Ebz]] 11:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

:The rationale is that "acts of war" are specifically excluded, but acts of terrorism are not acts of war and so are relevant to be included as "disasters". Hope that makes sense. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 13:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

== Ordering ==

I don't think some of the sections are in order. Someone cleverer than me probably knowss how to get their computer to do this. If so please do so. Thanks[[User:George bennett|George bennett]] 18:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

== SS London ==

The [[SS London]] is on the list twice under different numbers. [[User:Akadruid|akaDruid]] 15:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks. Fixed. Added ref re 220. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] 08:25, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

== Overenthusiastic editing ==

Due to overenthusiastic mass editing which has added too much clutter and deleted other info, am proposing a harsh revert back to version as at 15 June [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_United_Kingdom_disasters_by_death_toll&oldid=219519877] then clean up and reinstate where needed from there. Any comments? --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] ([[User talk:Mervyn|talk]]) 15:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:As per my message to you. I am currently in the midst of sorting out the page, not all the editing by [[User:Jeremy Bolwell]] done in the last few days was bad, if you revert it now a lot of work I have done already will have to be repeated. I will post a message when I have finished in an hour or three. Take a look then and see what you think. It can always be reverted then if still required. [[User:Richard Harvey|Richard Harvey]] ([[User talk:Richard Harvey|talk]]) 15:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::Good, i'll leave it to you. Thanks for taking it on! --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] ([[User talk:Mervyn|talk]]) 16:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Done! Or at least I think so! My head is spinning! Take a gander and see if I missed anything. I think there was a bit too much info attached to some items, or the syntax was iffy. After all its supposed to be a list of articles for people to see, so there is really no need to repeat everything. I was wondering if it may help to have the list with the dates quoted, where available, directly after the number of fatalities to speed up things for those looking for specific dated events! [[User:Richard Harvey|Richard Harvey]] ([[User talk:Richard Harvey|talk]]) 18:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

== Shipwreck of "William and Mary" ==

On the [[Flat Holm]] article it includes some info on shipwrecks as the rationale for the building of the lighthouse. Specifically

"On [[October 23]], [[1817]], a British [[sloop]], the ''William and Mary'', foundered after hitting the rock islands near Flat Holm known as ''[[The Wolves]]''. The ship was en route from Bristol to [[Waterford]] and sank within fifteen minutes; the [[Sub-Lieutenant|Mate]], John Outridge, and two sailors made off in the only boat. Fifteen survivors were later rescued, having clung to the ship's rigging,<ref>{{cite news|title=The wreck of the William and Mary|last=Heineken|first=Samuel |date=Tuesday November 4th 1817|publisher=The Times}}</ref> but fifty-four other passengers were lost.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://pastscape.english-heritage.org.uk/hob.aspx?hob_id=1046735|title=William and Mary|work=Pastscape|publisher=English Heritage|accessdate=2008-04-14}}</ref><ref>{{cite journal|date=1817|title=Shipwreck - Loss of the William and Mary|journal=Naval Chronicle|issue=Vol 38}}</ref> Fifty of the bodies were recovered from the ship and buried on Flat Holm.<ref name="sanders">{{cite web|url=http://www.angelfire.com/de/BobSanders/WRECKS.html|title=Some Bristol Channel Shipping Accidents|last=Sanders|first=Bob|work=Family history pages|accessdate=2008-04-14}}</ref>"

however I can't find an article for this one & it doesn't seem to be included in this list - any comment or help with including it (with the right level of detail) would be appreciated.&mdash; [[User:Rodw|Rod]] <sup>[[User talk:Rodw|talk]]</sup> 14:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

:Certainly worth adding it in - can be an article for future development. --[[User:Mervyn|mervyn]] ([[User talk:Mervyn|talk]]) 10:36, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

==Moorgate Tube Crash==
Have removed the comment 'Possible Driver suicide?' after the entry. Whilst that is one source of opinion it is not Wikipedia's role to speculate, only to report the facts. The question mark implies speculation. The matter is covered fully in the article itself.

Revision as of 23:00, 10 October 2008

LBC Crew

The LBC Crew (Long Beach Crip Crew) were a short-lived collective of Long Beach-based rappers. They were the first act to be executively-produced by Snoop Dogg. In 1997, The LBC Crew were signed to Doggystyle Records, a label operated by Snoop and distributed through Snoop's then record label, Death Row Records.

There is a full LBC Crew album called "Our City", although it was never released, it is floating around the internet, LBC Crew had a hit single with the song "Beware Of My Crew", from the A Thin Line Between Love and Hate soundtrack. They were also prominently featured on Snoop Dogg's second album Tha Doggfather. The group disbanded following the collapse of Death Row. Since then, unreleased material from the group emerged on the underground.

Most of the LBC Crew remained visible figures in West-Coast hip-hop. Prior to his incarceration, Tray-Dee was part of the successful rap-trio, Tha Eastsidaz. Bad Azz released two solo albums under the Doggy Style imprint. Lil C-Style remained part of unorganized Death Row camp. And Techniec recently signed to The Game's The Black Wall Street Records.

The Break-Up

Early on in the LBC Crew's lifespan, a small dispute broke out between Lil C-Style and Snoop Dogg over C-Style's royalties (he claimed he wasn't being paid enough for them). The argument was never settled, resulting in C-Style damaging the original tape of LBC's debut album beyond repair, and telling Snoop he no longer wanted to be part of the group.[1]

Members

  • Tray Deee (Tracy Lamar Davis)
  • Techniec (original member) (David Keith Williams III)
  • Bad Azz (original member) (Jamarr Antonio Stamps)
  • Lil' C-Style (original member) (Ronald Gillion)
  • South Sentrell (sometimes spelled Cintrell, Cinema, Mz. South 'Sentral, SO. Sentrelle or Ms. South Central) (Sentrelle Connerly)

Discography

  • Haven't You Heard? (We Givin' Something Bacc To The Street) (cancelled)
    • "Haven't You Heard"(Unreleased)
    • "Blueberry" (originally recorded for the album later included in Tha Doggfather)
    • "Gold Rush" (originally recorded for the album later included in Tha Doggfather)
    • "Out the Moon /Boom, Boom, Boom/" (originally recorded for the album later included in Gridlock'd (OST)
    • "Dippin' In My Low-Low" (re-recorded with Shaquille O'Neal for an unreleased Shaq project)
    • "I Just Wanna Be From D.P.G."(Unreleased)
    • "Get Up To Get down"(Unreleased)
    • "Feels So Good" (Originally recorded for the album later included in Deathrow Archives
  • 1996: Our City (Unreleased Album)
  • 1995: A Thin Line Between Love and Hate soundtrack (Warner Bros. Records)
    • LBC Crew : "Beware of my crew EP" #75 US, #51 R&B, #8 Rap, #23 Dance-Maxi
  • 1995: The Show Soundtrack (Def Jam)
    • "Droppin Bombz" (Tray Deee, So. Sentrelle)
  • 1998: 19th Street LBC Compilation (19th Street Recods)
    • "Flossin'" (Tray Deee, Bad Azz, Lil' C-Style) (re-up)

Filmography

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