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Pollo Tropical (lit. Tropical Chicken in Spanish) is a Miami-based fast food restaurant chain specializing in Caribbean food. Pollo Tropical is owned and operated by Carrols Corporation.

The first Pollo Tropical opened in November 1988, in Miami. The chain has over 70 company-owned restaurants in Florida and more than 20 franchised units throughout Latin America and the Caribbean, including over 10 in Puerto Rico. The company has expanded restaurants into the New York City market, with a location in the Brooklyn borough of the city, as well as Woodbridge, North Bergen and Clifton in New Jersey.

The restaurants are best known for its marinated and grilled chicken served with black beans and rice. Some common side dishes are french fries, salads, plantain, and fried yuca.

For a time, some locations in Central Florida were branded "TropiGrill" but these have since been renamed Pollo Tropical.

External links

Official website

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In summer 2008 construction began on a new Pollo Tropical located at the Flashbush Plaza in Hartford,CT. The construction on the new Pollo Tropical is expected to be completed before November 5th, as the new restaurant opens that day. Pollo Tropical plans on expanding their franchise to other cities in Connecticut such as: New Britain, Wethersfield, Enfield and a few more over the next 2 years.

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+'''Pollo Tropical''' (lit. '''Tropical Chicken''' in [[Spanish language|Spanish]]) is a  [[Miami, Florida|Miami]]-based [[fast food]] [[restaurant]] chain specializing in [[Caribbean cuisine|Caribbean food]]. Pollo Tropical is owned and operated by [[Carrols Corporation]].
-== Things to do ==
-# {{Doing}} Expand [[Simon Moritz von Bethmann]], then break out into sub-article.
-# Translate [[:de:Johann Philipp Freiherr von Bethmann]],  then break out into sub-article.
-# {{Doing}} Write sub-article [[Bethmann bank]].
-# {{Done}} Write sub-article [[Bethmanns and Rothschilds]].
-# {{Done}}Translate/write stubs on "minor" Bethmanns.  <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Goodmorningworld|Goodmorningworld]] ([[User talk:Goodmorningworld|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Goodmorningworld|contribs]]) 00:47, 16 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+The first Pollo Tropical opened in November [[1988]], in Miami. The chain has over 70 company-owned restaurants in [[Florida]] and more than 20 [[Franchising|franchised]] units throughout [[Latin America]] and the [[Caribbean]], including over 10 in [[Puerto Rico]]. The company has expanded restaurants into the [[New York City]] market, with a location in the [[Brooklyn, New York|Brooklyn]] borough of the city, as well as [[Woodbridge, New Jersey|Woodbridge]], [[North Bergen]] and [[Clifton, New Jersey|Clifton]] in New Jersey.
-== Why are almost all the sources in German? ==
-It's the nature of the beast. There is a dearth of English-language works about the Bethmanns. The picture changes somewhat for the [[Bethmann bank]], which will be the topic of an own article. The Bethmann bank is mentioned by scholars such as [[Paul Johnson]], [[Fritz Stern]] and [[Niall Ferguson]]. Unfortunately even they do so only within a larger context, i.e., the Rothschilds (Johnson and Ferguson) or 19th-century German industry (Stern).
+The restaurants are best known for its [[Marination|marinated]] and [[Grilling|grilled]] [[chicken]] served with [[black bean]]s and [[rice]]. Some common [[side dish]]es are [[french fries]], [[salad]]s, [[plantain]], and fried [[Cassava|yuca]].
-The English-language book with the most information on the Bethmann bank is the [http://www.amazon.co.uk/House-Rothschild-Caesar-Count-Corti/dp/0882791125/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1221585287&sr=1-2 1927 monograph on the Rothschilds] by Egon Caesar Conte Corti originally published in German, with 27 references to the Bethmann name. Fortunately, the quality of the English translation is excellent.
+For a time, some locations in [[Central Florida]] were branded "TropiGrill" but these have since been renamed Pollo Tropical.
-Local history, that is of Frankfurt am Main, understandably is of little interest to international authors. However, numerous German-language works focusing on Frankfurt history cover the Bethmanns and their activities at home and abroad in copious detail. (And of course, there is the amazing [[:de:Institut für Stadtgeschichte|Institut für Stadtgeschichte (Frankfurt)]], which has been putting its archives on the Internet.)
-By coincidence, the Bethmanns also are of passing interest to those writing about the life of [[Richard Wagner]], because his second wife [[Cosima Wagner|Cosima]] was a grand-daughter of a Bethmann. Unfortunately, several of the English-language works on this aspect cannot be cited except as examples of error, because they fall for a rumor originally disseminated in 1887, alleging Jewish descent of the Bethmanns. It has taken until the publication of [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/10/04/bocar130.xml ''The Wagner Clan''] by Jonathan Carr in 2007 to finally put this rumor to rest.
+==External links==
-===I don't speak German / don't live in Germany, why should I trust this article?===
+* [http://www.pollotropical.com/ Official website]
-Even in many Wikipedia entries citing only English-language sources, the actual books or articles may not be available. They may be out of print, the local library may not stock them. Hence the situation for an article citing, of necessity, non-English-language sources is not as radically different as may appear at first glance.
+[[Category:Fast-food poultry restaurants]]
+[[Category:Latin American cuisine]]
+[[Category:Companies established in 1988]]
+[[Category:Companies based in Miami, Florida]]
+{{Establishments serving chicken}}
-I have done my best to maximize verifiability by inserting in-line cites after each and every statement of fact in the article, thus giving a quick linkage from a statement to the relevant book or article or website.
+{{restaurant-stub}}
+[[fr:Pollo Tropical]]
-Some of the German-language books are sold abroad new or used. A reference copy may be available in national repositories such as the U.S. [[Library of Congress]] or a book may be in a university library. More and more books are becoming available in searchable form online, on Google Books and Amazon.
+In summer 2008 construction began on a new Pollo Tropical located at the Flashbush Plaza in Hartford,CT. The construction on the new Pollo Tropical is expected to be completed before November 5th, as the new restaurant opens that day. Pollo Tropical plans on expanding their franchise to other cities in Connecticut such as: New Britain, Wethersfield, Enfield and a few more over the next 2 years.
-The best fact check is other Wikipedians. There are thousands of Wikipedians with college-level or better German language competency who can be called on to check the accuracy of translations, and thousands of Wikipedians living in Germany with easy access to public libraries containing referenced books. In case of doubt, they will be the arbiters of whether or not the citations in the article are accurate.--[[User:Goodmorningworld|Goodmorningworld]] ([[User talk:Goodmorningworld|talk]]) 15:27, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
-== Suggestions ==
-Hi there, I think you want a first review for [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bethmann_family&oldid=243120886 this article] (not really a new assement). Although my English is not good enough to check for grammar mistakes, I've got a few points:
-*Citations should be after the punctation (,[1] ) if appropriate.
-*wikilinks mentioned in the text don't get a hatnote, like <nowiki>{{seealso|…}}</nowiki> and its better to link in the text than to make a hatnote.
-::Further information: Simon Moritz Bethmann (1687-1725), Johann Philipp Bethmann (1715–1793), Johann Jakob Bethmann, and Simon Moritz Bethmann (1721–1782)
-:[[Konrad Bethmann|Konrad (sometimes spelled "Conrad") Bethmann]] (1652–1701) was born in Goslar as the seventh child of the merchant …
-or
-:[[Konrad Bethmann]] (sometimes spelled "Conrad") (1652–1701) was born in Goslar as the seventh child of the merchant …
-*is there a section controversies planned? [[Talk:The Jew of Linz#False claims about the Jewish descent of the Bethmann family]]
-;Automated peer review:
-<onlyinclude>{{#ifeq:{{{name}}}|Bethmann family|[[User:Sebastian scha.|Sebastian scha.]] ([[User talk:Sebastian scha.|talk]]) 19:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)}}</onlyinclude>The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic [[User:AndyZ/peerreviewer|javascript program]], and might not be applicable for the article in question.
-*Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Lead]]. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on [[WP:LEAD]], and should adequately summarize the article.<sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#lead|[?]]]</sup>
-*Per [[Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context|Wikipedia:Context]] and [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)|Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates)]], months and days of the week generally should not be linked. Years, decades, and centuries can be linked if they provide [[WP:CONTEXT|context]] for the article.<sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#contxt|[?]]]</sup>
-*You may wish to consider adding an appropriate [[WP:INFOBOX|infobox]] for this article, if one exists relating to the topic of the article. <sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#infobox|[?]]]</sup> (Note that there might not be an applicable infobox; remember that these suggestions are not generated manually)
-*Per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)#Units of measurement|Wikipedia:Manual of Style (numbers)]], there should be a non-breaking space - <code>&nbsp;</code> between a number and the unit of measurement. For example, instead of ''300 meters'', use ''300 meters'', which when you are editing the page, should look like: <tt>300&nbsp;meters</tt>.<sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#nbsp|[?]]]</sup>
-*Per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings)]], headings generally do not start with articles ('the', 'a(n)'). For example, if there was a section called ''<nowiki>==The Biography==</nowiki>'', it should be changed to ''<nowiki>==Biography==</nowiki>''.<sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#headingthe|[?]]]</sup>
-*As per [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings)]], please do not [[WP:LINK|link]] words in headings.<sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#headinglink|[?]]]</sup>
-*Watch for [[User:Tony1/How_to_satisfy_Criterion_2a#Redundancy|redundancies]] that make the article too wordy instead of being crisp and concise. (You may wish to try Tony1's [[User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a: redundancy exercises|redundancy exercises]].)
-**“In <font color='red'><s>the year [of]</s></font> 1416”
-*Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of [[WP:WIAFA|Wikipedia's best work]]. See also [[User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a]].<sup>[[User:AndyZ/G#copyedit|[?]]]</sup>
-You may wish to browse through [[User:AndyZ/Suggestions]] for further ideas.
-I hope this will help a bit. Thanks [[User:Sebastian scha.|Sebastian scha.]] ([[User talk:Sebastian scha.|talk]]) 19:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
-:p.s. and for too much references, the article New York City has 171 inline refs. [[User:Sebastian scha.|Sebastian scha.]] ([[User talk:Sebastian scha.|talk]]) 20:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::Thank you very much, that was very helpful indeed. I am not planning a section on the "Jewish Bethmann" canard. I already mention it here on the Talk page, per WP:UNDUE I need not dignify it further.--[[User:Goodmorningworld|Goodmorningworld]] ([[User talk:Goodmorningworld|talk]]) 23:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
-:::Oh, and the reason that some footnotes are still in the middle of a sentence is that the source supports the sentence only up to that word, but not the entire sentence. Hope that's allright by Wikipedia.--[[User:Goodmorningworld|Goodmorningworld]] ([[User talk:Goodmorningworld|talk]]) 01:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
-::::I think, that's absolute correct if the source only support a word or phrase. I don't know, if UNDUE is okay here, nevertheless it's your project at the moment and if you decide so, it's okay with me. And this is a very good article. If you are looking for a ''good article'' or even a ''featured article'' be sure to go through a ''peer review''. IMHO this article has the capability. [[User:Sebastian scha.|Sebastian scha.]] ([[User talk:Sebastian scha.|talk]]) 02:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)