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October 5

Listing all pages created by a user

Is there any way to generate a list of all Wikipedia pages created by a given user? I've wasted a couple of hours today trying to figure out how to do this, to no avail.

Of course, Special:NewPages can easily give such a list for the past month, but is there any way to get the complete list back to a user's earliest contributions? This tool http://toolserver.org/~escaladix/larticles/ can (very slowly) generate a list of all articles and redirects created by a user, but appears to work only on the article namespace and not any other.

A similar question was asked here about a year ago (see Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 September 23#New pages), and there was no good answer at the time. Has anything changed? Is there any such thing as a "page creation log"?

It would be great if Special:Contributions simply had a checkbox to "Show pages created only", since it already displays a bold N beside any such contribs. How does one go about asking the developers to add such a feature?

Thanks for any help that anyone can provide. --Seattle Skier (talk) 00:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There isn't such a feature as far as I know. You can ask for the feature at Bugzilla. Pie is good ^{(Apple is the best)} 02:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Never say never until we check the Editor's index. Under WP:EIW#NewA is the link:

New articles created by any specified editor

Let us know if that works for you. --Teratornis (talk) 05:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Next time I should read the question more carefully, or answer when I am actually awake. --Teratornis (talk) 20:32, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. There's obviously also this link http://toolserver.org/~sql/created.php, which is found in the footer of Special:Contributions/Username. It generates a list of all articles created by a user, but again only in the article namespace (even though it's called "What pages has this user created?"). Maybe I'll ask User:SQL to expand the capabilities of that tool to include all types of pages. --Seattle Skier (talk) 01:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Marshall Hall, Tennessee Technological University: It was deleted with no clear reason given against Wikipedia English Policy.

Hi, I'm a frequent user of wikipedia and have written many internal MediaWiki articles as an employee at some of the worlds Fortune 100 companies. I was reading up on Gaither Vocal Band and noticed that a page from one band member Marshall Hall was deleted. There was no reason stated for the deletion other than WP:Prod. Given the 'religious' nature of the page, it seemed a little controversial and felt a bit capricious to remove this page; especially because no reason was given. My I suggest the page be brought back (or can we have the page returned as Marshall Hall? Religion aside Gaither Vocal Band is a prolific and famous musical group with millions of followers. A page on Marshall Hall seems just as reasonable Steve Green. It seems perfectly reasonable to have a page on each member of this group. --Spaden777 (talk) 00:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your link goes to Marshall Hall, Tennessee Technological University which only contained:

Image:Fourth_floor_marshall_exit.jpg

History
Constructed in 1961, Marshall Hall serves as a coed residence hall and is one of the engineering halls in the Pinkerton Quad complex. It is named in honor of Annie White Marshall, former art professor and dean of women at Tennessee Technological University.

References

Category:Tennessee Technological University

I haven't found evidence that there has been a Wikipedia article about the Marshall Hall who is in Gaither Vocal Band. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since the article Gaither Vocal Band started in [1] it has linked to Marshall Hall which doesn't mention this Marshall Hall. It is unfortunately common that editors don't check where their links go. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have placed a red link to Marshall Hall (singer) in Marshall Hall, and I have edited Gaither Vocal Band to link there on Marshall Hall's name. If you don't have a conflict of interest and you can provide evidence that Marshall Hall satisfies Wikipedia:Notability (people) or Wikipedia:Notability (music) then you can create a biography there. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:10, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Albert Schweitzer

Hi, I've tried to substitute Kaysersberg (which is the current spelling) for "Kaisersberg" in line 2, but the normal procedure doesn't seem to work.
Surprisingly, I was able to do so elsewhere in the article. Why there but not here? Somebody willing to show me the trick?
Thanks in advance, --Zack Holly Venturi (talk) 05:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LEAD#Editing the lead section. --Teratornis (talk) 05:44, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I want to nominate a deletion

to PbNation. However, there are so many different methods for doing this...speedy, WP:Prod, AFDs....can someone take a look, make a determination on what the best way is, feel free to undo what I've already done, and then suggest how I could have handled this better? Thanks! --Kickstart70-T-C 05:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In general, the safest way is to choose the more conservative or deliberative method. Any of the three methods works, though any objections to a "Speedy" or to a "Prod" leads to an AFD anyways. Someone has already listed it as a PROD, though I don't know who (it may have been you). Also, whoever HAS listed the PROD needs to perhaps rephrase it, being a target of problematic edits is never a reason for deletion; one could easily say that the article on George W. Bush is a target to become "a cesspool of insults and POV edits" and yet, no one would ever consider deleting it for those reasons. Stick to the standard deletion reasons (WP:NOT, WP:N, WP:V, WP:NFT, WP:DICDEF are some of the most commonly accepted reasons) and avoid the perjoratives in deletion nominations. Again, this may have not been you, but it bears noting that whoever HAS placed the PROD notice has not set a good example... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks...I cleaned up the reason for deletion (yeah, it was me and your concern is correct). Is PROD the correct choice for this? Basically, there are current edits in the page that are problematic in and of themselves ("In retrospect, DK Radar is the best person to have ever graced the prescience of PBNation"), and I think the original notability complaint on the page (not by me) has merit. Anyway, at this point I will leave it as is and hopefully someone runs with whatever else needs to be done. --Kickstart70-T-C 05:28, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, but be prepared at least to take it to AFD. PROD's can be removed without cause and by anyone. If it is removed, this can be taken as a tacit objection to the deletion, which means that an AFD should be started to discuss both the reasons for deletion, and said objections. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:49, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok...that was the crux of my original question. If this can be removed by anyone, for any reason, why bother using the PROD method at all? Seems like I should have gone to afd right away in the first place. Should I switch it now? --Kickstart70-T-C 06:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, you may get lucky. Once you have tagged many articles for deletion, you will get a better feel for when each (db, prod, or afd) is most appropriate. If you've only ever been involved in a few, then its hard to find the right opportunities for each. Remember, you can't screw anything up that bad. Anything done at Wikipedia can be undone. Leave the PROD. If it flies, it flies. Just be ready to do the AFD if it comes to that.--Jayron32.talk.contribs 06:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

←One other point here. PROD also gives the article 5 days to mature. If someone feels they can improve it by sourcing, neutralizing, and expanding it into a better article, this affords them that opportunity. Some PRODs are beyond help and at the end of the grace period an admin will come along and delete it without it going to AFD. However, if you place the article on your watchlist and someone removes the PROD and then makes no effort to improve it, then your option is to move it to AFD. Do not reapply the PROD, because it can be remove again. Taking it to AFD allows for a more thorough examination of the articles merits and whether the community agrees with your recommendation or not. Cheers.--JavierMC 07:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do you move a page?

Some created Robert tjian. It should be Robert Tjian. How to fix it and move the history over. Cut and paste will not do. Can you do it for me? 903M (talk) 05:56, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. In the future, there is a "move" tab at the top of every page. It will bring up a page with a simple, easy to follow dialog asking for a new name for the page and the reason for the move. Its pretty simple and self-explanitory. As long as you are an autoconfirmed user (had an account for 4 days and made 10 edits with it) you are allowed to move a page yourself. Good luck, and if we can do anything else, let us know. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 05:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Withdrawing an AFD

Hello,I wish to withdraw my nomination of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don't Copy That Floppy (2nd nomination) for deletion. How do I do it? --Fireaxe888 (talk) 07:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Once you have taken the article to AFD, there's no reversing your recommendation per se. You can add a comment at the AFD that you have reconsidered your original recommendation, and state your new choice of merge, keep, rewrite, etc. But once it is moved to AFD, it is in the communities hands to act on the proposal. I see that it already has community votes, so you should just let the AFD run it's course. Just add your new change of mind to those of the other votes and wait the outcome. It looks like the consensus at this time is for keep anyway. Cheers--JavierMC 07:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats not exactly accurate. AfD's are withdrawn all the time, and closed for that very reason. Synergy 07:19, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) Then maybe you can provide him with the correct procedure. Saying that my recommendation was wrong without providing a solution isn't exactly answering this editors question. And Fireaxe888, I apologize for my inaccurate advice and have therefore, struck it.--JavierMC 07:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at my comments below. Thanks, – RyanCross (talk) 07:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, I've closed the AfD as a nominator withdrew the AfD here. Fireaxe, to close an AfD, read the instructions at Wikipedia:Deletion_process#Articles_for_deletion_page, or you can simply say "I withdraw this AfD" on the AfD nomination page if you are withdrawing the AfD you nominated. – RyanCross (talk) 07:31, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FWIW, I think Javier's was the better advice, here. Just note your change of mind at the AfD itself. Sometimes a withdrawn nomination is a reason for a speedy close (as it was in this case) but if other editors have voted delete then it shouldn't be. AndyJones (talk) 08:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Transclusion question regarding the Notability RFC Compromise page

I'm really confused. Why is my edit here visible here but not here? It looks like one page is transcluded on the other. Isn't that correct? AndyJones (talk) 09:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The job queue hadn't caught up yet. A null edit fixed it. Algebraist 09:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Working now, thank you. AndyJones (talk) 18:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another trick to remember is WP:PURGE. --Teratornis (talk) 20:23, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hyperlinks without underscore

In the German wikipedia hyperlinks are just blue. I like that better than blue with underscore, as in the English wikipedia. Is there a possibility for users to set that option individually on their computer? Ceinturion ^{t | c} 11:58, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. Go to Special:Preferences, select Misc, then choose the appropriate selection from the dropdown menu. Prince of Canada^{t | c} 12:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, it works! Ceinturion (talk) 19:20, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Modify template or create slightly different one?

Hello, I'm not very good at wikicode...do you see a way to modify this template so that if a conditional is omitted or false, that the {{{1}}} would not be italicized? For example, the conditional here might read "is a person:" {{DramaWiki|The Show|bool}}. If it's true, it would therefore not be italicized. When I made the template I didn't realize there would be more actors than shows (silly). Thanks for your insight. Louis Waweru Talk 14:53, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{#if:{{{1|}}}
          |[http://wiki.d-addicts.com/{{anchorencode:{{{1|}}}}} ''{{{1}}}''] at the [[DramaWiki]]
          |"Error, you must define the DramaWiki article."}}

I would try:

{{#if:{{{1|}}}
          |[http://wiki.d-addicts.com/{{anchorencode:{{{1|}}}}} {{#ifeq: {{{2}}}|italics|''{{{1}}}''|{{{1}}}}}] at the [[DramaWiki]]
          |"Error, you must define the DramaWiki article."}}

This way you'd get:

{{DramaWiki|The Show|italics}} → The Show at the DramaWiki

{{DramaWiki|The Guy}} → The Guy at the DramaWiki

- SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much! Louis Waweru Talk 02:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help with listing an aritcle for deletion

I tried to list Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ESilicon and related articles but it does not seem to have worked. Any suggestions? --Gerry Ashton (talk) 17:36, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. You need to capitalize the "e". :) --PeaceNT (talk) 17:41, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I thought that might be it, but didn't want to experiment too much. --Gerry Ashton (talk) 17:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Add a page in a Category

Hello,

I would like to add a page in a Category (ex.: add the Mickael Phelps page in the Category "American Athlets")

Do you help me ?

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stricker20italia (talk • contribs) 18:08, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simply go to that category, copy it's title ("Category:WhateverItsNameIs"), and then go back and paste that near the bottom of the article where you see the other categories (or if there aren't any, then place it at the very bottom). Then surround it with double brackets (like "[[Category:Whatever]]"). Done! Click save. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 18:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For your example, you would place [[Category:American athletes]] at the bottom of Michael Phelps. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 18:17, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stricker20italia (talk • contribs) 19:52, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But before you do that, make sure Michael Phelps is not already in a subcategory of Category:American athletes. An article should (usually) not be in both a category and one of its subcategories (reference: WP:CAT#Some general guidelines, item 3). See Help:Category, WP:CAT, and WP:EIW#Cat. Categories can be very confusing for Wikipedia users who are editing categories for the first time. They certainly were for me. You may need to read the links I gave several times over several days for that stuff to sink in. Given the extremely high profile of Michael Phelps, his article has probably had the attention of many experienced editors, so I would be very surprised if it had any obvious category omissions. In other words, you should probably not mess with the categorization of the Michael Phelps article until you are at least as experienced as the other editors who have worked on that article. A better place to learn about categories would be Wikipedia:WikiProject Categories/uncategorized. That is, you could start by categorizing some articles that don't have any categories yet. --Teratornis (talk) 20:22, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

global account

Hello, I clicked on "Manage your global account" because I wanted to find out what it was, and it still doesn't make sense. Does this mean that I don't have to make another account name on another Wikipedia site? It took me something like 5 or 6 tries to find something that wasn't taken. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LovesMacs (talk • contribs) 18:54, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The page Help:Unified login will give you all you need to know about global account/unified login, and you can complete the process at Special:MergeAccount. Thanks. Sunderland06 (talk) 19:15, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

R.E.M. ROCKPALAST DVD

I am having a very difficult time trying to ask a question in any forum. I wish to know if there is any WEB SITE that has thr R.E.M. Rockpalast DVD for sale. It was show on Comcast Cable TV in my area and did see a site that had this for sale. Is there any place in Wkipedia that I can go to ask others if they know of where I can purchase this DVD.

-- Thank you much - bob d. Bogastow (talk) 20:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You could ask at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Entertainment, but the first obvious thing to try would be to search the Web with Google for: REM Rockpalast which finds 27,000 hits. Are you familiar with using a search engine? --Teratornis (talk) 20:12, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can an admin please reinstate a previously deleted article please?

Mikhael Jaimez-Ruiz once existed as an article but was deleted after the player failed to meet notability guidelines having never played in the football league, however he has now met this criteria so can the article now be reinstated? Thanks. Flaming Ferrari (talk) 20:57, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored it and added an external link which confirms he has now played in a professional league. Will you expand on that in the article? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 Presidential Candidate Ruth Bryant White

You have a list of Presidential that you interviewed. Ruth Bryant White was one of the first of your Candidates interviewed for Wikipedia for the 2008 Presidential Elections? Ruth looked at Wikipedia as we were informed that another Presidential Candidate was interviewed and he and other Candidates are listed as Election 08 Prsidential Candidates, but Ruth was not a part of that list. Do you think you can add her to that list with the Presidential Seal on an 08 Elections?

Thank you,

Steve White Senior Advisor —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.96.160.207 (talk) 22:01, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you are referring to Wikinews:Wikinews interviews Ruth Bryant White, independent candidate for US President. Wikinews and Wikipedia are different sites with different goals and policies although they are both run by the Wikimedia Foundation using the same MediaWiki software. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and does not make interviews but is based on verifiable content already published by reliable sources. The Wikinews interview of Ruth Bryant White is linked in Third party (United States) presidential candidates, 2008#Independents. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge histories

I just wanted to say that someone moved the an article from Ubuntu Live USB creator to Live USB system creator with copy-paste, and I tought it would be good to merge the history.... SF007 (talk) 23:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed it. jj137 (talk) 23:38, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, nice, thanks. SF007 (talk) 00:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

October 6

Box Characters

In Boolean_algebra_(structure), some of the characters (probably meet and join) only appear as squares, even within the edit page. Do I need some sort of patch to see them? Black Carrot (talk) 04:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:EIW#Math, Wikipedia:Mathematical symbols, and Wikipedia:Browser notes. You could also search the Help desk archive for: math symbol; that finds a few previous reports of similar problems. I'm guessing the problem is browser-dependent. What Web browser are you using, and can you try or install some more? The Wikipedia:Mathematical symbols page shows a list of math symbols and their HTML codes. If you cannot see some of the symbols on that page, you could search with {{Google}} for the name of your browser and a symbol you cannot see, and maybe someone will have written about it on the Web. --Teratornis (talk) 19:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Update problem with SSP report

I have added a comment[2] to an SSP report. This appears at the sub-page, but not at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets, even though I edited the sub-page from the link on the main page, and clicking this link now shows the amended report. Have I done something wrong, or is there a bug somewhere? RolandR (talk) 07:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It shows now. Sometimes, transcluded pages will not show properly unless the page's server cache is purged. See here for information and instructions on purging. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 10:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

displaying eastern characters

How do i get wikipedia to display eastern characters (Chinese, Japanese, etc) on my pc?Pandoradude (talk) 09:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need to have multilingual support enabled on your computer. Please see Help:Multilingual support (East Asian) for instructions on installing and setup of multilingual support for your operating system. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 12:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Combining two categories

Is there any way to combine Category:2008 albums and Category:Debut albums so that I can get a list of debut albums released in 2008? Many thanks. --Richardrj ^talk ^email 10:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it can be a bit slow but use this link. --Stefan ^talk 14:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I Can't Make An Info box

when ever i make an info box none of the things i put in come up in the preview screen all i can see is an empty table what am i doing wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ja93de73 (talk • contribs) 10:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are you trying to make in the info box? I maybe able to do it for you. Vandalismterminator (talk) 11:57, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

slow growth of mutual fund industry in pakistan

203.175.99.102 (talk) 13:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)i have to make questionnaire on the above topic and this will be fill by bank account holders. Hypothesis is lack of awareness in the people and preference towards banking sector. plz help me[reply]

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. You may be better served by asking at the reference desk. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 13:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WRITTING AN ARTICLE ON WIKIPEDIA

I TRY TO CREATE SOME ITEMS ON WIKIPEDIA AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM CREATING A USERNAME, BUT WHEN I CREATE A PASSWORD I HAVE PROBLEMS.

VINCENT GIOVANNANTONIO —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.187.197.42 (talk) 14:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are the problems? We can't help you if you don't specify what the problem is. Maybe the article Password strength will help you with creating a good password. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 14:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Create an Account Problem

I just created an account and when I attempt to log in I am told I am using an incorrect password or name. I assumed my initial registration failed for some reason so I resubmitted a create an account request and then got a message to use another name or password because the combination I am attempting to use is already taken. So my first registration was successful but I can't seem to log in with it.

15:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)~~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.176.151.10 (talk)

If you provided an email address when you created the account than you can request that a new password be emailed to you. If you did not provide an email and you cannot remember the password you entered than the only solution is to create a different account. Also, to sign your posts you must type four tildes not two. (Perhaps a typo?) Scottydude _talk 16:27, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

un-sudo?

Assuming I am running some bash script as root, and I need to do some actions as a regular user, is it possible to "un-sudo" inside the script? Or do I have to make another script? one for root actions ans other to non-root actions? SF007 (talk) 15:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps._Gb^T/c 16:07, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Damn it! I posted on the wrong page because of a simple distraction. Thanks for the reminder. SF007 (talk) 16:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

peeweepeewee  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apalmer360 (talk • contribs) 17:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Posting copy for Desperados beer

Hi There, I'm trying to post some copy for Desperados beer. See below. The page is getting automatically deleted & i'd be grateful if you can give me some tips on how I can create it. Please read the copy and let me know what I can do to post it. Thanks a lot

Desperados Beer is a 5.9% ABV tequila flavoured beer. Made from the finest ingredients of malt barley, hops, water and tequila. It’s best enjoyed when served chilled between 5-7 degrees Celsius. The addition of a wedge of lemon or lime, gives the beer an extra zingy kick.

The name ‘Desperados’ (meaning a vagabond and outlaw from the Texas and Mexico border areas) reflects the brands original, uncompromised character. The symbol of a lizard is often associated with Desperados, as it symbolised the wild, exotic and untamed nature of the brand.

Desperados was first brewed in 1995 and has enjoyed over ten years of success France, now holding the position of the fourth largest beer in this market. Desperados is owned by Heineken France and produced by Brasserie Fischer Breweries. Desperados is now sold in over 50 countries and continues year on year growth. In 2007, 9 million cases of Desperados were sold world-wide, the largest growth in sales coming from the UK market.

In June 2008, Heineken France instructed Tiger Beer UK Ltd. To drive the Desperados brand in terms of sales and marketing in the UK.

Wigwam1234 (talk) 15:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not sure what you mean by "getting automatically deleted" - possibly someone tagged it for speedy deletion because it's a piece of promotional writing. PR isn't in line with wikipedia policies. please have a look at these pages: WP:SPAM#Advertisements_masquerading_as_articles, WP:NPOV and at some of the related policies & guidelines you'll find links to there. hope that helps Sssoul (talk) 15:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To quote the deletion log "blatant advertising". Wanderer57 (talk) 17:14, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yearbook pictures...public domain?

I found some pictures of Paul Reubens (Pee-Wee Herman) from his high school's yearbook (1970). My question is, are yearbooks published with a copyright notice?? because if they aren't the pictures would be in the public domain. They were also published on the St. Petersburg Times in 1985.--Yamanbaiia^{(free hugs!)} 17:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice try but copyright law can apply even if there is no copyright notice. Probably this varies by country but it is certainly true in the USA. Wanderer57 (talk) 17:20, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong, it depends on the year. The yearbook is from 1970, so unless there was a copyright notice on the yearbook they are on the public domain per this. The newspaper printed the images crediting a staffer and the theatre where some of them were taken, no (c) note. Anyone has another point of view?--Yamanbaiia^{(free hugs!)} 17:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Newspapers are copyrighted, and were back then as well. You'd have to copy the image straight from the original yearbook. If there was no copyright notice in the yearbook, then under the law prevailing at the time, the contents mostly went into public domain. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't get checkmate to load

I've been trying for about two hours to get checkmate to load, but it won't load. Other pages I've tried work. Does it work for other people? Bubba73 (talk), 17:40, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Won't load for me either. Probably best to report it over at the technical section of the Village Pump. – ukexpat (talk) 17:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Worked for me, but the page did hang while loading. I'd guess it's because of all the chessboard images aren't static images but are being created by loading images for each square on each chessboard using Template:Chess_diagram.Laenir (talk) 17:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It loads for me now. – ukexpat (talk) 17:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is still not working for me. Yes, it has to load an image for each square of the board each time. Is there a way to have it generate a static image of the diagram and save that? We went away from using static images in favor of this system a few years ago. Bubba73 (talk), 18:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to VP:technical. Bubba73 (talk), 22:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

creating a page

'Bold texthello my name is andrew palmer

i emailed you to ask how do you create a new page? , say about a football team such as man united

please email me back ASAP —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apalmer360 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Please read WP:YFA -- and as you might expect there already is a Manchester United article. – ukexpat (talk) 17:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trouble sending message to Bzuk

I want to send a messsage to Bzuk in connection with an error in article "The Ruptured Duck (B-25)" and the article "Ted W. Lawson" but the message window does not open when I get to that page. What can I do? Paa123 (talk) 18:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

This is the direct link to leave him a new message. :) Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 18:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:Bzuk is semi-protected so you must have an autoconfirmed account to edit it. Your account should automatically become autoconfirmed when you make two more edits. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sort of stymied here. I clicked on the direct link icon suggested by PeterSymonds and the page said it is semi-protected and can be accessed by registered users only. I am one, but still can't access Bzuk's message window. PrimeHunter's message says that I need to be autoconfirmed which will happen when I make two more edits. But what do I do until them? I don't want to edit anything; I just want to write a message to Bzuk. There is an error in the caption of one of the photos in one of his articles which lead to an error in another article. I wouldn't dream of trying to edit these two articles (I'm a novice here) but I'd like to inform him about these errors. Paa123 (talk) 15:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have left a note on Bzuk's talk page alerting him to this thread. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 15:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

advertising as part of an image

A chart has been added to an article I wrote. Nice chart but it includes a business name and website. Should I delete this? Ask that the chart be uploaded again without the advertising? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsmcphail (talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to check - you're talking about the chart on Tax_information_reporting, I take it? _Gb^T/c 18:39, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes - it was also added to Tax forms in the United States —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsmcphail (talk • contribs) 18:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at WP:EIW#Image for guidance, and at first glance I see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions where you might ask for opinions about this image and its appropriateness for various articles. WP:ADVERT doesn't seem to mention images explicitly. I agree that images could provide a sneaky way to advertise on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 19:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Based on my understanding of the related policies and license used, I do not believe that we can use the image and have removed it from both articles.

I believe the relevant policy to be WP:IUP#User-created images, specifically the part that reads:

"Also, user-created images should not be watermarked, distorted, have any credits in the image itself or anything else that would hamper their free use, unless, of course, the image is intended to demonstrate watermarking, distortion etc. and is used in the related article. All photo credit should be in a summary on the image description page." (bolding added by me for emphasis of relevant text)

The credits in the image file shows that it was allegedly uploaded by the creator of the image, whose URL is displayed in the image. However, because the images are released under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported, I do not believe we can simply crop the image. That license stipulates that "You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor". As the author seems to want the URL in the image, and WikiPedia's image use policy says not to use such images - I do not believe the images can be used in the related articles unless the original contributor modifies the images him/herself to meet Wikipedia's policy requirements. The other option is to find an alternate source for a similar image - or to find a source for the data and to crete a table rather than using an image to display it. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:09, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blocking a vandal's account

Where do you block vandals' accounts? User:Cabb driver doesn't seem to agree with Steamboat Springs and has added profanities and deleted some sections of the text. What's the protocol to block the account? As I'm about to log out, it'd be great if someone could just go forward and take the necessary action; feel free to do it "in my name" if you prefer to do that, with a link to this post. Thanks! --Ibn Battuta (talk) 18:21, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, only admins can block an account. If you would like to report a vandal, check out this noticeboard. However, Cabb Driver does not appear to have edited since yesterday and may have stopped. I have warned him and will watch for more problems. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 18:26, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A report to WP:AIV at this point in time would most likely be rejected, as one of the requirements is that the vandal is active now, and as Tnxman points out, they haven't edited for 18 hours or so... 18:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, the user seems to have stopped. If they return, please try another warning, and if that doesn't work, report to WP:AIV. Good luck! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Meh. No sense giving an obvious troll another free edit or two. I've blocked indef as a vandalism only account. --barneca (talk) 19:58, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About a tab

Some years ago, I remember there was a tab on the top of the Wikipedia interface. When clicked, the tab showed the difference from my last edit to the current for that article. Anyone knows what happened to that tab, and if I can re-enable it? =Nichalp «Talk»= 18:50, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that tab is part of the Twinkle set of functions, which can be simply installed by adding importScript('User:AzaToth/twinkle.js'); to one's monobook.js file. Regards, EJF (talk) 19:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Registered users can also install Twinkle via the Gadgets tab of Special:Preferences. – ukexpat (talk) 20:10, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its not Twinkle or any gadget. Twinkle is something new, just about a year old. The tab was present for a short while in 2005. =Nichalp «Talk»= 04:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then see the userscript library. It's likely in there, as a matter of fact, I think I saw it in there once. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Understanding Wikipedia

The majority of articles should be in simple english, and Wikipedia is too down-to-earth Uncyclopedia pwnz Wikipedia. Wikipedia' English is only understood by the people that write them. I swear it's a different language. So you click on the word for Wikitionary and you don't understand any of it. Why? Simple English is for normal people complicated english is for Wikipedia itself to read. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.226.74 (talk) 21:03, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You may be interested in the Simple English Wikipedia if you find the writing on the English Wikipedia too complex. -Optigan13 (talk) 21:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable Figures

How do I post the bio and picture of the president of my company who is a notable motivational speaker? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetcmg1 (talk • contribs) 22:38, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Your first article. But since you work for him, you have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest in writing about him which would make it very difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view; so you probably should not write about him yourself. Was he perhaps the subject of your deleted article, Wikipedia biographies? That article was deleted because you did not indicate now the subject was notable. —teb728 t c 00:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also see Wikipedia's definition of notability. In order to be deemed notable enough for Wikipedia, you need to show that there exists extensive, independant coverage of your boss in reliable sources. Basically what we need to see is multiple articles or books written by people who have no connection to your boss, and which are published in reliable sources (major newspapers, magazines, trade journals, books published by major publishing houses or university publishing houses, accademic presses). If that sort of information is not out there, as cool and awesome as your boss is, he's not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Converting table types

Is there any way I can convert an older-style table to a kickass wikitable-sortable type without doing so manually? The article I want to revamp is the Ipecac Recordings discography. Thanks, Seegoon (talk) 22:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I converted it using this tool, removed all the nowikis it placed for reason unknown using a search and replace function, and then made the table sortable by adding class="sortable". Although the syntax is now much simpler, it converted it so that it looks almost identical to the prior HTML-based format. I'm not sure if that's what you wanted, but you can now play around with it. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

October 7

how do you find pages which are tagged non notable?

please let me know --Anshuk (talk) 00:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles with topics of unclear notability - Icewedge (talk) 01:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks--Anshuk (talk) 01:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, for articles tagged as speedy deletion candidates under CSD A7, see CAT:NNSD.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:32, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, A7 is for articles with no credible internal claims of importance. "John Doe is a cool guy and he's a student at Anywhere High School. He's the best" is A7 deletable. "Jane Doe is a city councillor of Anywhereville, and owner of the largest female owned business in Anywheresville (pop 10,000)." isn't necessarily A7 deletable, since it makes some claims to importance. Whether these claims qualify as satisfying minimal notability requirements is up for debate, but A7 is distinctly not about non-notable topics. From WP:CSD#A7 "to avoid speedy deletion an article does not have to prove that its subject is notable, just give a reasonable indication of why it might be notable." --Jayron32.talk.contribs 04:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am intimately familiar with A7's applicability and inapplicability, parameters, history and indeed have engaged in discussions seeking to clarify its use and language. I thought this might be a link useful for this user given his question and the common reference to it as the sole notability-related speedy deletion criterion under which articles are tagged.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 04:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

saving pages to work when offline

i want to know how to save pages on our computer and use them without connecting to internet59.93.91.62 (talk) 01:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In your browser, click File then "Save Page As" or equivalent. For more, try asking at the Reference Desk Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 02:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to download many pages at once, see Wget and Web crawler. --Teratornis (talk) 06:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia pings

Hello, I'm browsing with my firewall log open as I type this, and I notice that I'm getting a lot of pings from an IP that traces to the Wikimedia Foundation. Here's a sample (my own IP edited out for privacy):

Oct  6 21:50:20 165 Firewall[38]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:49367 from 208.80.152.134:443
Oct  6 21:50:32: --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Oct  6 21:50:32 165 Firewall[38]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:49366 from 208.80.152.134:443
Oct  6 21:50:38 165 Firewall[38]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:49367 from 208.80.152.134:443
Oct  6 21:50:56 165 Firewall[38]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:49366 from 208.80.152.134:443
Oct  6 21:51:44 165 Firewall[38]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:49366 from 208.80.152.134:443
Oct  6 21:52:04 165 Firewall[38]: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:49384 from 208.80.152.134:443
Oct  6 21:52:34: --- last message repeated 3 times ---

Is this normal? It happens even when I haven't recently clicked on any Wikipedia links.

My apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, and thanks. LovesMacs (talk) 03:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's odd. I seem to recall reading that Wikimedia did many, many years ago try out some code that would scan editors' IPs to try to detect (and block) open proxies, but it was quickly disabled because people complained. Certainly I haven't heard of anything like that being run these days. Anyway, you might get a better response at the technical village pump, or possibly on the wikitech-l mailing list or the #wikimedia-tech IRC channel on freenode. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 03:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's still happening. Does it matter if my IP changes each time I connect? I'm not going to name my ISP publicly, but I noticed that it allocates me a different number every time I connect, sometimes quite far from my physical location. Thank you for answering. LovesMacs (talk) 03:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Googling for the log message turned up http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/X4U/2005-July/007705.html, which quotes http://forums.macnn.com/92/networking/259581/lilbit-confused-about-incomming-scan/ saying:

“

This is not an attack. It is return traffic from a web server for which the firewall connection table timeouts have been exceeded. It can be ignored. Latency or misconfiguration on the remote end is what I would blame for the delayed response from the server that got dropped by the firewall.

”

I believe that could well also be the case here. It seems to be happening fairly often: my Google search even turned up a report of someone getting these "Stealth Mode connection attempts" from Apple's own www.mac.com:80. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 03:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, Google. Thank you very much for looking up this issue! LovesMacs (talk) 03:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Phishing site?

I was playing around and I was entering into my adress bar wikipedia.net wikipedia.com etc. Which both redirected to this website, but I entered wikipedia.tv in and it went to the site but my McAfee siteadvisor showed that it had not tested wikipedia.tv but it has wikipedia.org, so it must be a different site. When I click on a link it loads the other page but my address bar still says "wikipedia.tv"

Is this a scam/phishing site? Bonne Nuit Bijou (talk) 03:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They seem to be wrapping http://www.wikipedia.org/ in a frameset. I didn't spot any outright malicious code at a glance, but it's certainly misleading at best. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 04:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, all I'm getting from them is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
   "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
<html>

<head>
  <title>Wikipedia </title>

</head>
<frameset rows="100%,*" border="0">
  <frame src="http://www.wikipedia.org/" frameborder="0" />
  <frame frameborder="0" noresize />
</frameset>

<!-- pageok -->
<!-- 07 -->
<!-- 7.9-->
</html>

Where the number in  seems to vary in the range 01–07. Oh, and the HTTP headers say they're running "Microsoft-IIS/6.0" with ASP.NET 2.0.50727. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 04:11, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If that's all the returned HTML then it's just a Wikipedia clone or similar. It's definitely not the actual Wikipedia, though. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 04:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The WikiEmperor should probably try to contact the owner of the site. 75.175.127.114 (talk) 19:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Template for top of article

Is there a template I can place at the top of an article saying:

"This article is about _____. For ______, see ______"

Or would I have to make one? Thanks :) —Cyclonenim (talk · contribs · email) 06:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try {{about}} —teb728 t c 07:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or, to avoid the redirect, {{Otheruses4}}. – ukexpat (talk) 16:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More generally, see WP:DAB for an explanation of why, how and when to disambiguate page titles, and the templates used in various circumstances. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tipi article vandalised

It needs reverting back to the previous version, unless they were really cheesable and made out of human skin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.171.114.12 (talk) 07:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the warning; I reverted it. —teb728 t c 08:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why is a particular picture locally uploaded instead of on Commons?

I wonder why Image:Mercia family tree.jpg isn't on Commons? As far as I can see it is not a fair-use picture. I would like to use it on another wikipedia language version so I need to know what the problem is with this picture, if any. Åsa L (talk) 10:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only because the user who uploaded it and assigned it a GFDL license did so here instead of there. More to the point, because it is a GFDL licensed image, you can upload it to the Commons or ask for its upload there if you don't feel like doing that task yourself. To simply request it, mark the page with {{Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}. This places the page into Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons. There is no guarantee how long it will take for someone else to actually do it. If you want to attempt the upload yourself, see Wikipedia:Moving images to the Commons.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Åsa L (talk) 12:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What font or typeface is used for Wikipedia?

What font or typeface is used for Wikipedia websites? I have searched numerous Wikipedia websites (cascading style sheets [CSS], fonts, style manual, typefaces, etc.) but have not been able to find the answer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.240.147.2 (talk) 12:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It depends which skin you are using. My understanding is that when you're using Monobook, it tells your computer to use sans-serif, a category of font rather than a particular font itself. Your browser then chooses whichever sans-serif font happens to be its default. So you might see Arial on one browser but Optima on another.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:41, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moving a reference desk question

How am I supposed to move a reference desk article that has been put in the wrong category?Leif edling (talk) 13:55, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What article is this? Do you just want to change the category? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 14:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cut the source of the thread from the wrong desk and paste it into the new desk. Normally, one would also leave a note at the original desk with a link to the thread at the new desk. And a note at the new desk saying that the question was originally asked at another desk. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Help desk - Typing password at Wikipedia

Why sometimes insert symbol has disappeared? like typing password at Linux login???

as title. JustbeBPMF (talk) 14:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What time wikipedia's function has growth to strong. JustbeBPMF (talk) 14:06, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow you created a subpage; I have moved the content here. I'm not sure what you are asking. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 14:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted article

Hello

My article titles 'Eversley Storage Services' has been delted, and I can not find it in the deletion log. Please can you let me know where the content has gone and why it was removed?

Many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Storage Geek (talk • contribs) 14:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Why was my page deleted?. That article was deleted per WP:CSD#G11. Here's its entry in the deletion log. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 15:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

picture

How do I upload A picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HUFF12 (talk • contribs) 15:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's more information at WP:UPLOAD. You must be an autoconfirmed user as well. Your account has been active long enough, but you must make ten total edits before you can upload a picture. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 15:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If they are your images, I would urge you to upload them to Commons where they will be available to all the Wikipedia projects. Commons does not have autoconfirmation requirements. – ukexpat (talk) 17:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How can this image be properly displayed?

Someone just uploaded and added this image to the University of Houston System article. I believe the image fits the content nicely, but the way the Wikipedian who added it has it currently displayed seems odd. What would be a more appropriate way to display this in the article? A thumbnail? Thanks for your help! Brianreading (talk) 16:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have thumbnailed the image and added a caption. Let me know if this helps! TN‑X-Man 16:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I keep getting spammed for adding external links

Hello,

I work with the Encyclopedia of Alabama (www.encyclopediaofalabama.org) and have been getting blocked from adding links to our website. We have over 500 articles that are relevant to articles already found on Wikipedia, and I feel our material is not spam. Here are my questions;

1. As a non-profit, educational project, are we not allowed to link Wiki articles to our articles?

2. Is there any way we could apply for an exception, or an over ride of the bots that keep blocking us as spam?

3. If I try to add an external link, and a Wiki bot removes it, is the author of the article notified that I attempted to add this external link? In that case, would the author be able to decide if it is relevant and then reinstate the link?

4. How would I contact the author of an article to let him/her know of the existence of our material?

Thanks,

Justin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22starala (talk • contribs) 16:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of notes. First of all, adding links to a site you are affliated with is considered a conflict of interest (see WP:COI) and is discouraged (read: don't do it). Secondly, it is expected that the addition of external links to articles will be a natural part of the process of adding real text to the main body of articles. The external links section is not merely a repository of every link that is tangentally related to the topic of the article. The link should also meet our rather stringet requirements as a reliable source. Any trouble you have run into is largely due to your pattern of behavior. Repeatedly adding nothing but external links to multiple articles, with no other substantive edits, is considered spamming regardless of the merit of the links being added. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the comments. So, even if the link is removed, is the author notified so he/she can decide whether to reinstate it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22star (talk • contribs) 17:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No they are not notified unless the page is on their watchlist. Also see #13 on this page WP:ELNO Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 17:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

maybe a side issue, but: most wikipedia articles probably don't have a single author. they're created by multiple contributors. Sssoul (talk) 17:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where would I add a suggestion that we might be a useful link? I understand why I am not able to post these links, and completely accept the reasoning. However, I would like to find a way to let the author(s) discover our presence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22star (talk • contribs) 17:32, October 7, 2008

Wikipedia is not the correct method for advertising any link. You would be better served to build awareness of the site externally to WikiPedia. While it's a worst case scenario, and does not appear to currently be a concern for this link, links have been known to be blacklisted if it's perceived that self-promotion of a link is outweighing its value to Wikipedia.

To build external awareness, work on getting the link published in either dmoz or yahoo directories, published on university websites - or if sufficient news covereage from third party WP:reliable sources exists to establish its notability, consider creating a Wikipedia article about The Encyclopedia of Alabama. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To be clearer... External links is not the place to put a bunch of links. What you should be doing is reading the articles. If there is a fact in an article that does not have a reference note, but you have the same information in your encyclopedia, then you can use your encyclopedia to reference it. For example, assume you have an article on Jimi Hendrix in your encyclopedia and you are reading the article about Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band on Wikipedia. In that article, it says that Jimi Hendrix played the song in concert 3 days after it was released. After that fact, you can add <ref>As noted on www.encyclopediaofalabama.org/JimiHendrix</ref>. As a reference, your link is beneficial. In External Links, your link is just spam. -- kainaw ™ 17:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LINKFARM for more explanation. The External links section of a Wikipedia article is primarily a temporary tool for further developing articles. We expect that as articles evolve toward featured status, the (undifferentiated) external links will shrink, and the topical References section will grow.

To learn about citing sources with footnotes, see: WP:V, WP:RS, WP:CITE, WP:CITET, and WP:FOOT. (Caution: these procedures are not simple, and don't expect everything to make sense instantly on the first reading.)
Peruse our featured articles to see the proper balance between references and external links. For example, the first featured article I just randomly grabbed, 7 World Trade Center, has 101 footnote references and just three external links. As featured articles illustrate the best content on Wikipedia, that is approximately the balance between references and external links every article should evolve toward. Bot programs that delete external links are a heavy-handed aspect of that evolution - admittedly, not ideal from an ergonomic standpoint, but we have the Help desk here to clean up the mess and confer understanding.

Wikipedia has complex rules that are often unintuitive and difficult for new users to understand. However, these rules have helped to make Wikipedia a top ten Web site. If everyone already understood these principles, then anybody could build a top ten site. However, most people cannot do that, and thus it follows that most people, upon deciding to contribute to Wikipedia, will have to learn to think in new ways - the type of thinking that produces a top ten site. A new hire at, say, Google would undoubtedly have to learn new ways of thinking as well, to catch up to the particular rules that Google has worked out to become the enormous success that it currently is. Google's rules may be different than Wikipedia's rules, but the difference on Wikipedia is that we publish all our rules for the whole world to freely study and emulate. --Teratornis (talk) 19:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To answer the OP's latest question, the proper thing to do is to use the talk pages of the articles. Choose one or two actively edited articles, and post a discussion at the talk page of those articles (look for the tab at the top labeled "discussion"). DO NOT simply spam the link to 100 article talk pages, that will just get you into more trouble. Instead, try to engage other editors, get their opinions on the issue, and see what consensus develops over your website. You never know, editors may deem the site both reliable and useful. Be prepared, they may find it unreliable and consensus may go that way, but if so that is the way that Wikipedia works. You may want to read WP:BRD, which contains a rather good essay on this process. Good luck! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 20:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please be sure to read WikiPedia's policy on sock puppetry (and the sub-section on meat puppetry). I noticed a pattern of user accounts that were adding the links - all of which were created within one hour of each other earlier today:

Regardless of the appropriateness of the link, using multiple single purpose accounts to add the link to multiple articles will tend to raise even more questions around a potential conflict of interest. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 23:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check an edit, please

Could someone with a Yahoo account, please check this edit? Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 20:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yahoo groups are not considered a reliable source. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 20:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right, and I see you reverted it. The one-line mail can be seen at [3]. I see no reason the author http://profiles.yahoo.com/mistercoke44 should be allowed as a selfpublished reference. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Malformed MfD

Why is the topmost transclusion malformed here: Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#October_7.2C_2008? RJaguar3 | u | t 23:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pages change. Can you be more specific about the problem, or is it gone? PrimeHunter (talk) 00:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's gone. I think it disappeared when another MfD was added on top of it. RJaguar3 | u | t 17:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

October 8

semi-protected...

I would like to add a few points to the entry for John McCain. This record is "semi-protected" and I would like access so I can add a few entries with references.

FMook (talk) 00:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

You already have access, actually. Autoconfirmed users can edit semi-protected pages. Someguy1221 (talk) 00:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it looks like FMook is 1 edit away from being autoconfirmed. So, they could make an edit elsewhere, become autoconfirmed, and then make the desired edits, or they can post on Talk:John McCain, explaining what edits they want made, and can get consensus on them. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Linking images from Wikimedia

Hi,

I'm trying to include an image in an article I'm writing. I have successfully uploaded it to wikimedia, but I can't seem to get it to display in a wikipedia article. I cannot yet upload directly to wikipedia, as I'm not yet an established user. Can someone please help me out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by LightHorseman1216 (talk • contribs) 02:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing you're referring to Image:Twilkinschfullht6.jpg, which you uploaded to Wikimedia Commons? Have you read Wikipedia:Images, Wikipedia:Extended image syntax, or Wikipedia:Picture tutorial? Those pages should give you all the details you need, but if they're just not working please point out what you've tried, and what the result has been. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 05:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Heads of Governments

How can i get a list of the names of presidents, kings, priministers , etc. of different countries? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.15.58.194 (talk) 04:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is List of current heads of state and government what you're after?--A bit iffy (talk) 05:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At first I suspected this question was from Sarah Palin, but then I realized she has staffers now to look that stuff up. --Teratornis (talk) 19:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading query

Hello, I have one general question about wiki. It is possible to uploud to wiki pdf or doc files? And if it so, will be fulltext search looking into these documents, too? Thank for your response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iowa00 (talk • contribs) 09:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No— PDF and DOC files cannot be uploaded. Depending on the content, you may be able to upload then to Wikisource and use them as references. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

is this image up for deletion or not?

i noticed on a number of pages on my watch list, a note had been added to Image:GlassPerscriptionRig.jpg that it was nominated for speedy deletion. i checked the history of the file, and a non-admin seemed to have made some changes but the notes are still there in the articles. i guess i'm just not clear on the csd process. the file shouldn't be deleted, and seems to have been nominated hastily based on a technicality. i've looked around at relevant articles and i'm still lost. how can i find out the current status of the file? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coffee joe (talk • contribs) 11:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image is not going to be deleted. I've removed the notes from the articles. Algebraist 12:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Want to know the synonyms of Logistics

Just provide me with the greek,latin,french,chinese,japanese,urdu,hindi,bengali words for "Logistics". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.243.0 (talk) 12:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 12:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete this article?

Sorry, can't say any more than that this article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udder_cream seems like pure advertising and should probably be deleted.

Julian I Do Stuff (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 12:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

You should list the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. --Admiral Norton ^(talk) 12:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have cleaned out most of the advertising: the external links and promotional language. TN‑X-Man 12:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Galleries

Where do we stand on galleries of images in articles? There's a user working through Shakespeare's plays adding gallery sections and I don't want to interact with him/her on the subject until I know if there's a policy issue. If all that work is going to be undone, either the moment it's spotted or before the articles get up to WP:GA, then I'd like to advise him/her to stop rather than wasting this effort. However if this is good work that Wikipedia wants, then that's good. Isn't there some kind of WP:NOT problem? AndyJones (talk) 12:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's all right, as far as the images themselves are not violating any policies. In fact, WP:BUNCH advises users to use galleries if there are a lot of images. There are a lot of articles (such as Niagara Falls) using galleries. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 13:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Clearly non-notable software articles

What should I do with articles like IShowU or ScreenFlow? Admiral Norton ^(talk) 12:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have tagged them for deletion, which should be OK. Normally software isn't eligible for speedy, but there's so little context to those articles that it'll probably be up to the discretion of the closing admin. Cheers! TN‑X-Man 12:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They are clear as to subject, so no-context would be intellectually dishonest; and they're no longer copyvios or advertisements. I've prodded them instead. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Taipei Underground is developed presently

Deriative FX at commons

Is it broken? (link) I'm trying to upload a deriative and it's taking ages, quite literally. It's been at least half an hour now! Best, --Cameron * 15:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure. You might want to ask on the IRC channel #wikimedia-toolserver Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 15:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weird link on user page

Resolved

– template deleted from user page - – ukexpat (talk) 15:50, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Folks, I would appreciate some help here - I was just looking at my user page and noticed a strange link to Help:User contributions in the top right corner just above the "skip to bottom" link. I cannot figure out where it's coming from. Any ideas? I know the page is a mess so I am not asking (yet) for design advice just some assistance with detective work. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 15:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks to be coming from {{sp-contributions-footer}}. Normally, MediaWiki:Sp-contributions-footer is only used on the "My contributions" page; but the template on your userpage is a redirect to the Mediawiki page - resulting on that link appearing on other pages. See the talk page for MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer for the reason that it was added. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was it, so I deleted {{sp-contributions-footer}}. Thanks for the quick response. – ukexpat (talk) 15:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's too bad I have it on my userpage too. I like that at the bottom but the Help:Contributions thing is annoying. Scottydude _talk 18:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I posted a comment about it at MediaWiki talk:Sp-contributions-footer#Unintended side-effect. Please join in on the discussion on that talk page to discuss the link and/or what options exist. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 18:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need ability to post a picture Vontra --Vontra (talk) 16:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Hello,

I have read through and gotten lost over several days and just can't get past the photo insert. No one has blocked me, at least not that I know of, and I would like to add portraits to the biographies that I am putting up.

Can someone grant me permission to load the pictures? I do not want to load them into the common file but into the English picture file.

Help! This is frustrating me.

Thanks,

Vontra

Hello Vontra. Only autoconfirmed users can upload files to Wikipedia. Autoconfirmed status is gained automatically, after 4 days and ten registered edits. You will then have access to the Special:Upload interface. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 16:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

May I ask why you don't want to upload to Commons? If you created the images that is by far the best place to upload them so that they are available to all the WP projects, and Commons does not have autoconfirmation requirements. – ukexpat (talk) 16:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! After reading the descriptions of both places to deposit photos, I decided the other category was best. I have been a user for more than four days - I have no idea how many edits I have made. How would I find out? --Vontra (talk) 16:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can click the tab at the top of the page that says "my contributions". If you are using the default skin, it should be at the VERY top of every Wikipedia page. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 17:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or; you can go to Special:Preferences and look at "Member of groups"; it will show if you are in the Autoconfirmed users group. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question regarding donating information

Hello! We're a little confused about donating copyrighted information. We at Bryn Mawr College hold the copyright to information on our Special Collections website, and we are trying to add some of this content to Wikipedia, but it is repeatedly being flagged for deletion/blanked because we don't say on the website that we are releasing it under GFDL. We ARE, however, releasing it under GFDL and have said so on all of the talk pages (not that I'm saying these pages are wrongfully blanked - we fully understand the need to verify this information). We have also left note of our email address, which is the one posted on the bottom of all of our library pages, on the talk pages. Is that not an okay first step? We've read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Donating_copyrighted_materials, which says:

If you want to grant Wikipedia permission to use material from your site, but don't want to place a statement to that effect on your site, you can leave us a notice to that effect on the article's talk page (or on your user page if your site covers a number of topics). This does require that your site have a posted email contact, or some other similar means for us to verify that we really do have the relevant permission. Someone from Wikipedia will then contact that email address to confirm the permission, and we will be able to add your site to a list of those from which our editors may freely draw.

Is that not true? Will that not happen? Thanks! Bmcspecial (talk) 17:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It may be easier to e-mail OTRS, see WP:IOWN. – ukexpat (talk) 17:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The email should go to permissions-en@wikimedia.org However, it would be easier to put the GFDL info on your site.Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 18:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know it would be "easier", but computing services won't give us access to our own website.Bmcspecial (talk) 18:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just realized that sounded a little cross! Wasn't meant to be - we're more frustrated with the fact that we can't edit our own website than anything going on here. :) Bmcspecial (talk) 18:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone who thought you sounded cross must lack sangfroid. On Wikipedia, we assume good faith. On the Help desk, we are used to stating facts succinctly, without too much bowing and scraping and "By your leave, Sir"s etc. Should you ever feel the need to sound cross, it's as simple as PRESSING THE CAPS LOCK KEY. It sounds as if you should send a little CAPS LOCK to your computing services people. --Teratornis (talk) 19:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That we should! Bmcspecial (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

tag for logical contradiction

Is there a tag that can be used to flag a logical contradiction that I am unable to resolve myself? For example, where one sentence says something that is contradicted by the next sentence. ike9898 (talk) 19:05, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, actually. {{Contradiction}} Someguy1221 (talk) 19:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recently added a {{Wikipedia template messages}} navigation template to all the Template messages pages. {{Wikipedia template messages}} contains a {{Google custom}} search link for searching those pages. For example, it lets you search for "contradiction"; here is the overkill illustration of that search (you don't have to go through all this to search from the navigation template, of course):

Type this	To get this	What it produces, or searches for
`{{google custom\|en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_messages\|contradiction\|search Wikipedia's template messages for: contradiction}}`	search Wikipedia's template messages for: contradiction	Search the Wikipedia:Template messages subtree for: contradiction

That leads to the Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup#Contradiction and confusion section. --Teratornis (talk) 19:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

div background-image in wikipedia

Hi, i don't know is this the right place to post this question or not but can someone help me please,
I want know how i can use background-image with adjustable transparency in DIV tags here in wikipedia; or any other way that i can use background-image inside a frame. ■ MMXX^talk 19:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC) PS. a same message is also posted in Wikipedia:Village pump (miscellaneous)[reply]

User Pages

Is there anything that can't go on a user page other than illegal items? Is it alright to have advertising for your product on your user page or not? --Samtheboy ^(t/c) 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:USERPAGE for more information. In short, no, it is not OK for you to use your userspace to advertise. Wikipedia is not a free webhost, and your userpage is to be used solely for Wikipedia-related content. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 20:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barack Obama

I would like to see any information on Barack Obama? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.33.237 (talk) 20:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Barack Obama. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 20:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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October 5

Listing all pages created by a user

Deletion of Marshall Hall, Tennessee Technological University: It was deleted with no clear reason given against Wikipedia English Policy.

Editing Albert Schweitzer

I want to nominate a deletion

How do you move a page?

Withdrawing an AFD

Transclusion question regarding the Notability RFC Compromise page

Hyperlinks without underscore

Modify template or create slightly different one?

Help with listing an aritcle for deletion

Add a page in a Category

global account

R.E.M. ROCKPALAST DVD

Can an admin please reinstate a previously deleted article please?

2008 Presidential Candidate Ruth Bryant White

Merge histories

October 6

Box Characters

Update problem with SSP report

displaying eastern characters

Combining two categories

I Can't Make An Info box

slow growth of mutual fund industry in pakistan

WRITTING AN ARTICLE ON WIKIPEDIA

Create an Account Problem

un-sudo?

Posting copy for Desperados beer

Yearbook pictures...public domain?

Can't get checkmate to load

creating a page

Trouble sending message to Bzuk

advertising as part of an image

Blocking a vandal's account

About a tab

Understanding Wikipedia

Notable Figures

Converting table types

October 7

how do you find pages which are tagged non notable?

saving pages to work when offline

Wikimedia pings

Phishing site?

Template for top of article

Tipi article vandalised

Why is a particular picture locally uploaded instead of on Commons?

What font or typeface is used for Wikipedia?

Moving a reference desk question

Wikipedia:Help desk - Typing password at Wikipedia

Deleted article

picture

How can this image be properly displayed?

I keep getting spammed for adding external links

Check an edit, please

Malformed MfD

October 8

semi-protected...

Linking images from Wikimedia

Heads of Governments

Uploading query

is this image up for deletion or not?

Want to know the synonyms of Logistics

Delete this article?

Galleries

Clearly non-notable software articles

Deriative FX at commons

Weird link on user page

Need ability to post a picture Vontra --Vontra (talk) 16:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Question regarding donating information

tag for logical contradiction

div background-image in wikipedia

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Barack Obama