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| birthplace = [[Glendale, California]], [[United States]]
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'''Claudia Ann Christian''' (born [[August 10]], [[1965]]) is an [[United States|American]] actress, writer, singer, musician, and director.
== [[Jeremy Shockey]] ==


==Biography==
I unfortunately do nto have the time to devote to WP as I used to. But after searchign the article, I have noticed it has a 99 positive spin, with zero little mention of his behavioral problems and his often Homophobic coments. Thought I would bring it to the projects attentiona dn see if anyone wants to run with it. [[Special:Contributions/74.62.46.90|74.62.46.90]] ([[User talk:74.62.46.90|talk]]) 00:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Christian was born in [[Glendale, California]]. She is most famous for her role as Commander [[Susan Ivanova]] on the [[science fiction]] [[television]] series ''[[Babylon 5]]''. She left the series unexpectedly following the fourth season, when contract negotiations for the fifth and final season &mdash; aggravated by the possibility that there would not be one &mdash; broke down.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/misc/cc-leave.html|
:Do you have any reliable sources that these comments are notable? It doesn't seem too shocking the an American footballer would have said some things but they need to rise to a level they are reported. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 02:54, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
title=About Claudia Christian's Departure|
== Newspapers v. WP:LGBT ==
work=The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5|
author=Joe M. Straczynski, Claudia Christian (quoted from correspondence)}}</ref> (Her appearance in the series finale was filmed during the fourth season.) Before ''Babylon 5'', Christian was known for her feature film roles as a [[stripper]] possessed by an alien serial killer in ''[[The Hidden]]'' (1987), a police department [[psychologist]] Susan Riley in ''[[Maniac Cop 2]]'' and as model Hexina in ''[[Hexed]]'' (1993). She posed nude for ''[[Playboy Magazine]]'' in October 1999.


She appeared in two episodes of [[Freaks and Geeks]] in 2000. In 2004, she returned to the live stage (and to [[Laguna Beach]], California, where she had attended high school), starring in the U.S. Premiere of [[Michael Weller's]] play ''[[What the Night Is For]]'', with Kip Gilman, directed by [[Richard Stein]], at the [[Laguna Playhouse]]. Her most recent work is in the [[BBC]] comedy series, ''[[Broken News]]'' in 2005. She also plays Janine Foster, mother of [[Peri Brown]], in the ''[[Doctor Who]]'' audio drama "[[The Reaping (Doctor Who audio)|The Reaping]]", produced by [[Big Finish Productions]] released in the UK in September 2006.
The following was in an email sent to several gay writers and newspapers, written by a man named Billy Glover. I got hold of it by magic. Though he seems a bit cranky, he does have some points. I think it has food for thought. Discuss? --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 17:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)


She appeared in a new play called ''Killing Time'' at the [[Edinburgh Fringe|Edinburgh Fringe Festival]] in Scotland 2nd-23rd of August 2006.
I have been looking at journalists and the media since about 1960. And I have yet to find the journalists as a group or individually doing even a minimally good job of covering most aspects of homosexuality. As they have done about Britney, or gay marriage and now seem to be doing on trans issues, as to compensate for failure to attack HRC etc because of shouting by a small segment of the population, they mostly have ignored the major issues we have faced. They ignored [[Don Slater]], continue to never mention [[ONE, Inc.|ONE]], which was the largest organization, and for some time the only publication, because of two things-ONE did not fit the popular stereotype of "gay," and we were not young and cute and they didn't agree with our positions.


==Filmography: TV and movies==
[[Hal Call]] was attacked for going into porn, but we got no support for NOT going into porn. We picketed the Los Angeles Times and were ignored-except that the paper then changed its policy which is what we wanted. Our Motorcade, even though for once the New York Times actually did a good article-written by Peter Bart, now in Hollywood at Variety I think-but no one else did, not even the gay media.
'''FILM'''
*Overnight (2008).... Sandy
*Serbian Scars (2008) Meggie....Co-Producer
*The Dot Man (2006).... Lieutenant Colonel Dunst
*The Garden (2005).... Dr. Cairns
*The Failures (2002)....Anna
*Half Past Dead (2002)....EZ Williams
*Atlantis (V) (2001)....Helga Sinclair
*True Rights (2000).... Elaine Kilgore
*Love & Sex (2000)
*Haunting of Hell House, The (1999)....Lucy
*Snide and Prejudice (1998).... Renate Muller
*Mercenary II: Thick & Thin (1997).... Patricia Van Lier
*Chase, The (1994).... Yvonne Voss
*Hexed (1993).... Hexina
*Gnome Named Gnorm, A (1992).... Samantha
*Arena (1991).... Quinn
*Dark Backward, The (1991).... Kitty
*Mom (1990) (uncredited).... Virginia Monroe
*Think Big (1990).... Dr. Irene Marsh
*Maniac Cop 2 (1990).... Susan Riley
*Tale of Two Sisters (1989).... Liz
*Clean and Sober (1988).... Iris
*Mad About You (1988).... Casey
*Never on Tuesday (1988).... Tuesday
*Hidden, The (1987).... Brenda Lee Van Buren
* ''[[Starhyke]]'' (2005) TV Series (post-production) - Captain Belinda Blowhard
* ''[[Broken News]]'' (2005) TV Series - Julia Regan - IBS
* ''Geppetto's Secret'' (2005) (voice) - Blue Fairy
*
* ''[[Shrek 2 (video game)]]'' (2004) (voice) -- Fairy Godmother
* ''[[Secret Weapons Over Normandy]]'' (2003) (VG) (voice) -- White Rose
* ''[[Everwood]]''
** aka ''Our New Life in Everwood'' (UK: new syndication title)
*** - "My Brother's Keeper" (2003) TV Episode - Young Edna Abbott
*''The Failures'' (2003) - Anna
* ''[[She Spies]]''
** - "Spies vs. Spy" (2002) TV Episode - Tanya
* ''[[Half Past Dead]]'' (2002) - Special Agent Ellen Williams
** aka Halbtot - Half Past Dead (Germany)
* ''[[Earth and Beyond]]'' (2002) (VG) (voice) - Lady Katherine Isabella Olivia deWinter
* ''Summoner 2'' (2002) (VG) (voice) - Sangaril, Logosarch, Rosalind, Dama Heras
** aka ''Summoner: A Goddess Reborn'' (USA: GameCube version)
* ''[[NYPD Blue]]''
** - ''Better Laid Than Never: Part 1'' (2002) TV Episode - Catherine Lowe
** - ''Better Laid Than Never: Part 2'' (2002) TV Episode - Catherine Lowe
*''[[Darth Vader's Psychic Hotline]]'' (2002) - Princess Leia (voice)
*''[[Hot Rush]]'' (2002) - Jane
* ''[[Relic Hunter]]''
** - "All Choked Up" (2001) TV Episode - Carson Inez
* ''[[Atlantis: The Lost Empire]]'' (2001) (VG) (voice) - Helga Sinclair
* ''[[Atlantis: The Lost Empire]]'' (2001) (voice) - Helga Katrina Sinclair
* ''Atlantis: The Lost Empire - Search for the Journal'' (2001) (VG) (voice)
* ''Never Die Twice'' (2001)
* ''[[Freaks and Geeks]]''
** - "Dead Dogs and Gym Teachers" (2000) TV Episode - Gloria Haverchuck
** - "Chokin' and Tokin'" (2000) TV Episode - Gloria Haverchuck
* ''True Rights'' (2000) - Elaine Kilgore
* ''Family Law''
** - "Are You My Father?" (2000) TV Episode
* ''Love & Sex'' (2000) (uncredited) - Woman in Gallery at End
* ''The Haunting of Hell House'' (1999) - Lucy
* ''Final Voyage'' (1999) - Max
* ''The Substitute 3: Winner Takes All'' (1999) - Andy
* ''Running Home'' (1999) - Jules Daniels
* ''[[Babylon 5]]'' (1994-1997, 1998) - [[Susan Ivanova]]
* ''[[Babylon 5: Thirdspace]]'' (1998) - [[Susan Ivanova]]
* ''Kelly Kelly''
** - "Doodler" (1998) TV Episode - Anya
* ''A Wing and a Prayer'' (1998) - Shelley Lowe
* ''[[Highlander: The Series]]''
** - "[[Episodes of Highlander (season 6)#Two of Hearts|Two of Hearts]]" (1998) TV Episode - Katherine
* ''[[Babylon 5: In the Beginning]]'' (1998) - [[Susan Ivanova]]
* ''Total Security''
** - "Pilot" (1997) TV Episode - Cheryl Bankston
* ''Snide and Prejudice'' (1997) - Renate Muller
* ''Journey Beneath the Sea'' (1997) (V) (voice) - Queen Aquareine
* ''Lancelot: Guardian of Time'' (1997) - Katherine Shelley
* ''Mercenary II: Thick & Thin'' (1997) - Patricia Van Lier
* ''Solar Eclipse'' (1995) (VG) - 'Raven' Maj. Delany Kelt
** aka Titan
** aka Titan Wars (UK)
* ''[[The Chase]]'' (1994) - Yvonne Voss
* ''[[Columbo (TV series)|Columbo: It's All In the Game]]'' (1993) - Lisa
* ''[[Hexed]]'' (1993) - Hexina
** - aka "All Shook Up" (UK: video title)
* ''[[Space Rangers (television)|Space Rangers]]''
** - "Death Before Dishonor" (1993) TV Episode - Marla Baker
* ''Relentless: Mind of a Killer'' (1993) - Leeann Hardy
* ''The Itsy Bitsy Spider'' (1992) (voice)
* ''Strays'' (1991) (TV) - Claire Lederer
* ''The Woman Who Sinned'' (1991) (TV) - Judy Reinhardt
* ''Lies of the Twins'' (1991) (TV) - Felice
* ''The Dark Backward'' (1991) - Kitty
** - aka "The Man with Three Arms" (UK)
* ''[[Dark Justice]]''
** - "To Die For" (1991) TV Episode - Dana Hollister Harrison
* ''[[L.A. Law]]''
** - "Speak, Lawyers, for Me" (1991) TV Episode - Susan Convers
* ''My Life and Times'' (1991) TV Series - Jessie (young)
* ''[[Murder, She Wrote]]''
** - "The Prodigal Father" (1991) TV Episode - Bonnie Jenks Hastings
* ''Kaleidoscope'' (1990) (TV) - Meagan
** - aka "Danielle Steel's 'Kaleidoscope'" (UK)
* ''[[A Gnome Named Gnorm]]'' (1992) - Samantha
** - aka "The Adventures of a Gnome Named Gnorm"
** - aka "Upworld"
* ''[[Maniac Cop 2]]'' (1990) - Susan Riley
* ''[[Mad About You (Film)|Mad About You]]'' (1990) - Cassandra 'Casey' Harris
* ''[[Matlock (TV series)|Matlock]]''
** - "The Blackmailer" (1990) TV Episode - Mickey Alder
* ''Think Big'' (1990) - Dr. Irene Marsh
* ''Mom'' (1990) (uncredited) - Virginia Monroe
* ''[[Jake and the Fatman]]''
** - "Easy to Love" (1989) TV Episode - Sgt. Alex Walker
* ''[[Shannon's Deal]]'' (1989) - Molly Temple
* ''[[Quantum Leap (TV series)|Quantum Leap]]''
** - "Play It Again, Seymour - April 14, 1953" (1989) TV Episode - Allison
* ''Arena'' (1989) - Quinn
* ''Tale of Two Sisters'' (1989) - Elizabeth
* ''Police Story: Monster Manor'' (1988) (TV) - Officer Babs Altoon
* ''[[Clean and Sober]]'' (1988) - Iris
* ''Never on Tuesday'' (1988) - Tuesday
* ''[[The Hidden]]'' (1987) - Brenda Lee Van Buren
* ''[[The Highwayman (TV series)|The Highwayman]]'' (Pilot film) (1987) (TV) - Dawn
** - aka "Terror on the Blacktop" (note: did not go on to appear in the following series)
* ''[[It's Garry Shandling's Show]]''
** - "Dial L for Laundry" (1987) TV Episode - Sylvia
* ''Outlaws''
** - "Madril" (1987) TV Episode
* ''[[Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer]]''
** - aka ''The New Mike Hammer'' (USA: new title)
*** - Elegy for a Tramp (1987) TV Episode
*** - Shots in the Dark (1984) TV Episode - Elyse
* ''[[Hunter]]''
** - "Love, Hate, and Sporty James" (1986) TV Episode - Roxanne Hoffmeyer
* ''Houston: The Legend of Texas'' (1986) - Eliza Allen
** - aka "Gone to Texas"
* ''Blacke's Magic'' (1986) (TV) - Laurie Blacke
** - "Breathing Room" (Pilot)
* ''[[A Masterpiece of Murder]]'' (1986) (TV) - Julia Forsythe
* ''Blacke's Magic'' (1986) (TV) - Laurie
* ''[[Berrenger's]]'' (1985) TV series - Melody Hughes
* ''[[The A-Team]]''
** - "Trouble Brewing" (1985) TV Episode - Cathy Rogers
* ''[[Riptide (TV series)|Riptide]]''
** - "Where the Girls Are" (1984) TV Episode - Marion Gordon
*''[[Calendar Girl Murders]]'' (1984) (TV) - Kara
** - aka "Insatiable"
** - aka "Victimised" (UK: video title)
** - aka "Victimized"
* ''[[Falcon Crest]]''
** - "Tests of Faith" (1984) TV Episode - Kate Mars
* ''[[Dallas (TV series)|Dallas]]''
** - "Some Do...Some Don't" (1984) TV Episode
* ''[[T.J. Hooker]]''
** - "The Lipstick Killer" (1984) TV Episode - Betty MacRae


===Director===
Don Slater was doing the military issue long before anyone else, he was in court, won cases, even though the policy didn't change, but his work was ignored, except for a brief mention, mostly in error, in [[Randy Shilts]] book. I was on Regis Philbin's tv talk show on the issue, and he was rude and there was no coverage of this in the media, as there was no coverage of [[Harry Hay]] and [[John Burnside]]'s appearance on other tv shows.
* ''The Heartbreak Cafe'' (1997) TV Series (one episode)


===Herself===
There has been silence on the few books that actually try to cover our history, such as the book Vern Bullough edited, of short bios of pioneers, Before Stonewall, and Paul Cain's interviews in Leading The Parade. Most
* ''Ghostwatch Live'' (2001) TV Series - Herself/Presenter
other books are East Coast oriented.
* ''[[The Big Breakfast]]''
** - Episode dated 22 August 2001 (2001) TV Episode - Herself
* ''[[Space Cadets (game show)|Space Cadets]]''
** - "Morks vs. Mindys" (1997) TV Episode - Herself
** - "Blobs vs. Things" (1997) TV Episode - Herself


==Discography==
Show me one article in any g/l publication, by any g/l journalist on the g/l libraries/archives.
* ''[[Taboo (Claudia Christian)|Taboo]]''
* ''[[Claudia Squared]]'' with [[Claudia Cummings]]
* ''[[The Be Five|Trying to Forget by The Be Five]]''
* ''Area 51'' the Concept Album for the Musical ''[[Area 51 (Musical)|Area 51]]''
* ''[[Once Upon a Time (Claudia Christian)|Once Upon a Time]]''


==Writing==
As I understand it, one of the two men whose legal case got rid of the sodomy laws ([[Lawrence v. Texas|Lawrence vs Texas]]) died in Houston, ignored and unhonored. Now I want g/l publications to sell. But how many covers and long articles can we have on non-gay celebrities while we ignore the people who have DONE the work that changed this nation for homosexual citizens?
* "Revenge is a Bitch to Swallow." Short story. Published in ''Forbidden Love Issue 2: Wicked Women''.<ref>{{cite web
| last =
| first =
| title = Under the Moon Official Website
| url = http://www.underthemoon.org/forbiddenlove.html
| accessdate = 2007-04-29}}</ref>
* [http://www.yarddogpress.com/mylife.htm ''My Life With Geeks and Freaks'']. Autobiography. Published by [[Yard Dog Press]].


==Quotes==
Do young homosexual men and women ever hear of actual homosexuals who have worked for change? Instead they are given as "inspirationals" young, cute, girls and boys who know nothing on the subject, do nothing for the cause,
*"Cooking is great, love is grand, but souffles fall and lovers come and go. But you can always depend on a book!"
but look good.
*"Apparently I've been typecast in science fiction: I'm a Russian bisexual telepathic Jew."


==References==
Who is working to try to get academia to use homosexual educators who KNOW the subject and should be teaching classes instead of some hacks who just are handed the course to fill a pc duty to say they have "done" the gay thing? Why are universities allowed to give their students less than the best education on this subject?
{{reflist}}


==External links==
I gather there is a convention of g/l journalists meeting as I write. Who are they hearing from? Is [[Frank Kameny]] being heard? Who is speaking for our cause? What we will hear are attacks on [[Human Rights Campaign|HRC]] by trans people who came out of the closet, if they have, a year or so ago and have done nothing on their own but want to become leaders and take over existing g/l organizations instead of taking time to learn about life.
*[http://www.claudiachristian.net/ Official website]
*[http://www.zardproductions.com/ Official Business website]
* {{imdb name|id=0160004|name=Claudia Christian}}
* {{voice actor|id=01631|name=Claudia Christian}}
*[http://www.edfringe.com/shows/detail.php?action=shows&id=KILL Killing Time at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival]
* {{tvtome person|id=22140|name=Claudia Christian}}


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Or we will hear from Ellen and Elton. As if they can give much insight as to how to live as an average homosexual. And as if they actually did much work to change laws and attitudes.
[[Category:1965 births]]
[[Category:American film actors]]
[[Category:American television actors]]
[[Category:American voice actors]]
[[Category:California actors]]
[[Category:Living people]]
[[Category:People from Glendale, California]]


[[de:Claudia Christian]]
I wait to hear some coverage of people and groups in our community/movement that are daily working yet are never heard from yet are the ones who actually are making the changes.
[[fr:Claudia Christian]]

[[no:Claudia Christian]]
There is what could be a major event in New Orleans on Sep. 3d, (manystoriesonevoice.org) of religious homosexuals. Has any media covered this? Has any publication ever covered a meeting of the [[Seventh Day Adventist Kinship]] (g/l) group? How are the g/l [[Front Runners|Front Runner]] groups doing? Maybe somewhere on a website I don't know about there are listings that young people can find of groups they might want to know about, but do they know about them?
[[pt:Claudia Christian]]

[[ru:Кристиан, Клаудия]]
Just listing a name and phone number of some groups iknsmall print in the back of a g/l newspaperis not "serving" the community/movement. And why do we need g/l journalists if most of the articles we see are in general publications. As I've said many times before-I see the same travel news in g/l publications I see in general travel publications-so homosexual travelers have no need to buy a "gay" travel magazine that hs the samelistings-museums, Broadway plays, etc.
[[fi:Claudia Christian]]

It seems that gay bars are not growing in number, yet that is the major coverage many g/l papers give us. And page of reviews of movies with no gay content.

And i the midst of all he fawning over gay marriage-with a brief mention of divorce-such as the two women who are filing for divorce 3 days after they married-is there any article on the g/l community that is NOT interested in
marriage-such as the [[Alternative to Marriage Project]]?

One or two major g/l publications have very little gay news but lots of ads for million dollar homes and $40,000 cars and expensive clothes, which means the average homosexual, or average American will ave no interest in the
publication.

And when was the last time you saw a ""quote" in the columns of someone who is NOT a celebrity, mostly non-gay celebrities are quoted, with silly hings such as,"Oh, Ilike my gay fans." Howinsulting. Is that what our community
is desperate for, approval of celebrities?

There are probably gay artists, musicians, actors,that I have ever heard of, because all I read about in the g/ papers are the current non-gay people. Perhaps if they are "popular" in the gay clubs that is because they are the ones "celebrated" n the gay press. The general media keeps telling us that they give us what we want, and that ratings confirm this-I don't believe it-we have to take what they give us.

But a new day is coming, with internet, blogs, etc so that they will no longer be the deciders. Perhaps they will give us a column of good blog sites, gay websites-such as the new outhistory.org, which will give balanced information and resources and news.

:That's quite a rant. I think we (WP:LGBT) attempt to show more gay history coverage, though of course we could do better... :) -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 20:00, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

::I know. I thought about telling him to check out Wikipedia ([[Ann Bannon]], [[Jose Sarria]], the updated [[Stonewall riots]] article, [[Barbara Gittings]], [[James Robert Baker]], [[Black Cat Bar]], etc.), but William J. Crankyman would probably try to rain fire and brimstone over the volunteer editors of WP:LGBT. --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 20:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::He does have a point but Americans, generally, are not big on learning history as much as creating it. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 22:48, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Bold Strokes Books]] ==

I just declined a speedy delete on this. Is this a notable book company? If not, let me know, I'll delete it. Thanks! [[User:Keeper76|<font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper</font>]] {{IPA|&#448;}} [[User talk:Keeper76|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76</font>]] 19:32, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:In 15 minutes, I searched Lexis Nexis, and Lambda Book Report (magazine for LGBT writers) for news of Bold Strokes, and found very minimal information. Not more than the site itself has for information. No 3rd party news. The information may be incorporated into [[Radclyffe]]'s article. But in comparison to a more groundbreaking company such as [[Naiad Press]], I can't see how newsworthy the company is. Though some may argue that any publishing company dedicated to LGBT titles is newsworthy. --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 19:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::I really do love the name of the company. Other than that though, I think you might be right. I'll look at the more general [[WP:BOOK]] and [[WP:COMPANY]] guidelines. [[User:Keeper76|<font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper</font>]] {{IPA|&#448;}} [[User talk:Keeper76|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76</font>]] 19:55, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::There's really not much out there on this (relatively new) publisher. I redirected the article to [[Radclyffe]], per your suggestion, in lieu of deletion. The article text is in the redirect's page history, found [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bold_Strokes_Books&action=history here], if it can be spun back out with reliable sources. Sounds promising, but maybe not quite at Wikipedia level yet. [[User:Keeper76|<font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper</font>]] {{IPA|&#448;}} [[User talk:Keeper76|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76</font>]] 20:14, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::Keeper, I was rewriting the article for you -- I found stuff. I was going to post it when we had an EC. Can you redirect it back, please? [[User:Ecoleetage|Ecoleetage]] ([[User talk:Ecoleetage|talk]]) 20:18, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Actually, scratch the last request -- I got [[WP:Bold|bold]] and did it myself. :) [[User:Ecoleetage|Ecoleetage]] ([[User talk:Ecoleetage|talk]]) 20:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::::Beautiful. Still a bit borderline, but certainly a valid stub. I was doing the same thing elsewhere, but [[Etana Insurance|my topic]] was dreadfully less interesting. [[User:Keeper76|<font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper</font>]] {{IPA|&#448;}} [[User talk:Keeper76|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76</font>]] 20:29, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
::More stuff was just added. We may (we?) have to dig around in the web sites devoted to LGBT issues -- many of them are not hooked to Google. And your topic isn't so bad -- there are plenty of sexy people in the insurance field, no? :) [[User:Ecoleetage|Ecoleetage]] ([[User talk:Ecoleetage|talk]]) 20:36, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
== Update on LGBT tag at [[Talk:Charlie Crist]] ==

After Keeper's wonderful diplomatic work, one of the editors who had previously objected to the project tag on Charlie Crist and Larry Craig [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charlie_Crist&diff=233213579&oldid=230368377 re-added the tag] to Charlie Crist. Another editor, who looking at the tag page seems now to be clearly in the consensus minority, objected and remove the tag under the reasons of [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Charlie_Crist&diff=233281590&oldid=233281133 Delete LGBT project tag because (1) tag included no reason for why this article is relevant to the project; (2) unclear whether the Project ever made the decision to tag the article.] While reason #1 has been talked to death. I think reason #2 can be dispelled quite clearly if some of the folks from LGBT who are interested in maintaining accuracy and standards in the Charlie Crist came over to the talk page and note that interest. It still seems like an uphill battle with the LGBT needing to explain every little step and not having the freedom to be treated like other Wiki-projects, but it looks like progress is being made-one baby step at a time. [[User:Agne27 |Agne]][[Special:Contributions/Agne27|<sup>Cheese</sup>]]/[[User Talk:Agne27|<sup>Wine</sup>]] 18:37, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

== Heyo ==

Let me know [[Talk:Michelangelo#Michelangelo.23Architectural_work|what you think]]. <b><font face="Arial" color="teal">[[User:Jaakobou|Jaakobou]]</font><font color="1F860E"><sup>''[[User talk:Jaakobou|Chalk Talk]]''</sup></font></b> 21:14, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
== Slang pages ==

I've just noticed that our slang pages could use a bit of standardizing...

Would anyone object if we changed the following pages to be along the lines of "Word (slang)"? That would fall in line with some of the other slang terms on Wikipedia, and would satisfy my need for organization :) Furthermore, the "gay" in the title is unnecessary - none of these are found in other types of slang.

<blockquote>{{div col |cols=3}}
* [[Bear (gay slang)]]
* [[Chaser (gay slang)]]
* [[Chicken (gay slang)]]
* [[Chickenhawk (sexuality)]]
* [[Chub (gay slang)]]
* [[Down-low (MSM)]]
* [[Glory hole (sexual)]]
* [[Queen (gay slang)]]
* [[Trade (gay slang)]]
* [[Troll (gay slang)]]
* [[Twink (gay slang)]]
{{div col end}}</blockquote>

Thoughts? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 18:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

:I object. Many of these are gay slang. When I rewrote [[fruit (slang)]], for instance, the sources showed that ''fruit'' had been used as slang but that most uses now refer to LGBT people, however the article addresses all uses of ''fruit'' as slang and allows for more to be added. Most of these articles are only about the gay slang aspects. For instance, I know ''bear'' has been used as slang outside of gay cultures but the article really is about just the gay context. If ''bird'' was notable as Italian slang, for instance, I would support [[bird (Italian slang)]]. Part of LGBT history is we have entire languages, codes and signs as a means of survival. I don't think there is a clean solution to all of these. ''Glory hole'' is sexual slang not just slang and not just gay slang. ''Down-low'' is about MSM and also isn't just slang or gay slang. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 22:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::I totally hear what you're saying, Benji. But please take a look at Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Qualifiers not between brackets|Naming conventions]], specifically the section on qualifiers. Basically it says only disambiguate when necessary, and only as much as necessary. There's only one [[Dane Iorg]], who's a baseball player. There's a [[Doug Henry (baseball)]] and a [[Doug Henry (motocross)]]. And there's [[Chris Jones (1980s outfielder)]] and [[Chris Jones (1990s outfielder)]]. The dabs get more descriptive as necessary.
::In our case, there are no other articles an "bear" as a slang term, though there are other articles about bears. No others about "chasers" at all. No other articles about "chicken" as a slang term. Etc.
::So I don't mean to diminish the history and meaning of our slang, but for naming articles, let's follow WP conventions? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 02:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
:::On the surface that sounds logical, the problem comes when [[bear (gay slang)]] becomes just ''bear (slang)'' and the article morphs into every slang use of bear - per the title. In the case of [[bear (gay slang)]] it really is specialized enough to warrant that gay bonus tag. I previously cited [[fruit (slang)]] which, I think, is more of an exception. Sources showed that usages nearly universally became used for LGBT people so the article encompasses all slang uses. That's not going to be true with all these articles. And some of those words do have other slang articles already so it's not going to be neat and clean:

:::These to me should remain as gay slang, there are non-LGBT slang uses that, IMHO, would compromise the article(s) without the ''gay'' tag:
:::* [[Bear (gay slang)]]
:::* [[Chaser (gay slang)]]
:::* [[Chicken (gay slang)]]
:::* [[Queen (gay slang)]]
:::* [[Trade (gay slang)]]
:::* [[Troll (gay slang)]]
:::* [[Twink (gay slang)]]

:::This one I'm unsure as it's about gainers and various folks who are in teh chub community and i haven't looked into what the sources support:
:::* [[Chub (gay slang)]]

:::This one I'm unsure as I haven't looked into what the sources support:
:::* [[Chickenhawk (sexuality)]]

:::This one I think could stay as down-low (MSM) as it's a well-known slang term but the article was high-jacked and sliced up and I left it in disgust so it's only about MSM:
:::* [[Down-low (MSM)]]

:::This one I think should stay as [[Glory hole (sexual)]] as it's the sexual slang term as opposed to the many other terms which are cited in part of the history section:
:::* [[Glory hole (sexual)]]

:::Hope that helps. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 01:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

::::I'm very uncomfortable leaving all those articles as "(gay slang)" on the off chance that someone creates "Abcde (Mafia slang)" or something that requires the more specific disambiguation. In fact, [[WP:DAB#NAME]] is pretty clear that the more general DAB (slang) should be used until and unless a more specific DAB (gay slang) is needed. I recognize that a couple of the articles may be open to someone adding information that isn't ''gay'' slang, but if and when that happens, I'll be happy to split them into separate articles. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 01:46, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::I'm curious how adding non-gay-context information to an article on slang "compromises" the article and/or makes it not "neat and clean"? That's why we edit, right? To make articles neat, clean and comprehensive? <b><i><font face="Times New Roman" color="darkblue">[[User:Zuejay|Zue]]</font></i><font face="Times New Roman" color="blue">[[Special:Contributions/Zuejay|Jay]]</font><small> ([[User talk:Zuejay|talk]])</small></b> 02:13, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

:::::To address SatyrTN, [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (precision)]] would seem to suggest there is some wiggle room here, in essence we should be precise in titling an article. An article about ''bear'' as gay slang is quite different than an article about ''bear'' as slang (all usages). Although your offer to police and start new articles when non-gay usage starts to creep in sounds like a great idea my experience is that, more likely, the article will get rewritten, perhaps slowly, and it will be a long time until the non-gay content becomes large enough, if ever, to become its own article thus being deleted or re-merged putting us back to step one.
:::::Zuejay, it's similar to what I write above, an article about ''bear'' as gay slang is quite different than an article about ''bear'' as slang (all usages). I am advocating that we work to make the gay slang articles neat, clean and comprehensive to being about the gay slang usages. If someone wants to build an article about ''all'' the slang usages of those words and link a section to the specific gay slang article within them then fine. I feel that each of these articles has plenty of potential without delving into all the other slang uses of those terms - handled on a case by case basis there is certainly room to adapt. When I was rewriting [[fruit (slang)]] that was a question - is there a need, material for "fruit (slang)" and "fruit (gay slang)". In ''that'' case ''fruit'' as slang all pointed towards gay men/LGBT people so it was a non-issue. ''Twink'' for instance has several slang usages and were the article not "(gay slang)" and just "(slang)" there's little reason the flood of online gamers wouldn't start infiltrating to ensure their usage of twink as slang was well represented - that is what I meant by "compromise the article". In practice we have a deluxe hatnote on [[twink (gay slang)]] just to help address this.
:::::Frankly if "bear (gay slang)" is renamed to "bear (slang)" why wouldn't the article completely change focus about every slang usage of ''bear'' rather than focusing on the LGBT bear subculture? I couldn't defend it if that's what the article is called. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 05:28, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

::::::I'm sorry to bring this back up, but I'm still concerned we're not following Wikipedia guidelines, and we're sidelining ourselves in the process. For instance, I have no clue what another slang meaning of "bear" might be. There is nothing relevant on [[Bear (disambiguation)]] (and ours isn't there either). By sticking with the dab "gay slang", we're marginalizing ourselves unnecessarily. By changing it to "slang", the article will be taking a more prominent role in Wikipedia, and will be following WP guidelines.
::::::Similarly, "chaser" may have another ''definition'', but there's no other ''slang'' term that I know of, and certainly no other article.
::::::Finally, Benji, even if someone comes along and adds some non-gay slang to, say, [[Twink (gay slang)]], I can almost guarantee it won't be as extensive and well done as all your work! :) -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 03:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::The problem isn't you or I, IMHO, but the myriad of knuckleheads who already add nonsense into articles. Now instead of saying no this article is about "gay slang" it instead becomes a discussion of adding incremental bits in context of [[WP:DUE]]. And really you've never heard of "[http://books.google.com/books?lr=&ei=VU-sSIu9OInKjgHK3f2IAg&q=%22bear+of+a+man%22&btnG=Search+Books "a bear of a man"]? I'm sure there are other slang uses for all the term but I'm not terribly interested in those. Twink is also slang in the gaming community and it was worked out that they used [[twinking]] instead. If you make it [[Twink (slang)]] these articles could then be combined to detriment of both articles. Sorry I just don't see the strong need but if it does go through I'll likely just stop editing those articles. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 23:05, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
: I also oppose changing the slangs from gay slang to slang. In fact, some of them should be LGBT slang...the opening sentence is Bear says "a subculture in the gay/bisexual male communities". All the ones that apply to gay men, would also apply to bi men, I'm pretty sure. Why can't a twink refer to a bi man? It does in my book, therefore they should be changed to LGBT slang. <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 23:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

::I have no problem leaving certain articles with the "gay slang" dab, if there's a good reason. My goal is just to corral the four different slang dabs presented here (gay slang, sexuality, sexual, and MSM) to be as close as possible to Wikipedia's standards. If Twink, for instance, has at the top a {{tl|seealso}} for [[twinking]], then there is absolutely no reason the name can't be changed to be in line with WP guidelines. Any errant additions related to that article can be legitimately moved to it.
::Since there doesn't seem to be overwhelming support (or in fact any) for moving them wholesale, I'll check with individual articles. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 01:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::: Ok, but what about changing the ones that already have "gay slang" to "LGBT slang"? To be more inclusive. I'm not sure if there is any lesbian slang, anyone know if they have terms?...well I mean besides lipstick and bull dyke, etc <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 03:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
::::There are plenty of lesbian and transgender slang terms as well but I do agree with SatyrTN that trying to be more cohesive is probably a good idea. I gave up on [[down-low (MSM)]] which has been muddled and incorrectly split, IMHO, and should be just "down-low" as the MSM slang, as it's now incorrectly stating actually originated from black and youth cultures. And the MSM is just amongst the most well-known usage for some groups. It's still used in many contexts and MSM is just one. To Ctjf83, my hunch is we should either move all or none and I would favor none as these all chiefly have been gay usages and have been more adopted by other groups within and outside LGBT communities. I would support "sexual slang" for both ''Gloryhole'' and ''Chickenhawk''. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 00:49, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::I've boldly moved "down-low" and "glory hole" to (sexual slang) and "chickenhawk" to (gay slang). I think this eliminates (MSM) (sexuality) and (sexual). [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 22:35, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Jeffpw in Signpost ==

[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-08-11/News and notes]]
In case anyone missed it. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 00:52, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
== Minority Sexual and Gender Identity ==

Yo,

I just created an article on [[Minority Sexual and Gender Identity]], or MSGI, which is the next acronym on from LGBT. I'm having problems finding academic references to it though - it seems to be in semi-common usage around LGBT politics (especially queer politics), but I can't find any written references. Help/use of journal subscriptions would be appreciated. [[User:Dev920|Dev920]], who misses [[User talk:Jeffpw/Memoriam|Jeffpw]]. 12:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

:Does it have to be that phrase exactly? If you break the terms in half, you can make one article that incorporates [[sexual minority]] (a stub) and, maybe, [[gender variance]] (a stub). You could look at [[gender identity]] and [[sexual identity]] for additional info that could be worked in, but those look like pretty solid articles by themselves. Also, consider taking a look at [[Minority#Gender_and_sexual_minorities]]. Is this, baisically, a culturally-inspired term? It didn't take long (less than 1/2 hour) for someone to nail this new article with a delete tag based on a lack of Google hits. <b><i><font face="Times New Roman" color="darkblue">[[User:Zuejay|Zue]]</font></i><font face="Times New Roman" color="blue">[[Special:Contributions/Zuejay|Jay]]</font><small> ([[User talk:Zuejay|talk]])</small></b> 14:46, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

== Gaysploitation? ==

I'm tempted to AfD [[Gaysploitation]], unless anyone can provide some sort of references? The "refs" currently in the article are either alleged examples or barely mention the term. Thoughts? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 17:07, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:Well, it certainly doesn't cite anything. I can't tell if it refers to society exploiting homosexuality similar to the [[Lesbian until graduation]], or if it refers to gays milking homophobia in order to reap the benefits of some lavender [[Affirmative Action]]. Is the author responding? Can he provide better sources or quotes? --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 17:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::The author hasn't edited since March. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 17:36, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
:::That looks ''very'' deletable. I think it probably is a [[WP:NEO|neologism]] at best, perhaps a transwiki to wiktionary as a [[WP:DICDEF]]? Without an [[WP:RS|RS]] that is ''about'' the word (instead of the three or for refs that just say "they used this word once"), it shouldn't be in wikipedia. [[User:Keeper76|<font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper</font>]] {{IPA|&#448;}} [[User talk:Keeper76|<font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76</font>]] 18:27, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
::::I've found several Google refs in books and one in News. I would say it has at least stubby promise. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 23:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Benji, but I just don't see anything worthwhile yet as it appears to be a neologism. The book refs seem to be more about using the term in passing, so I have to go with Keeper on this. It was put up for prod in January 2007, so it would have to go to AfD. Transwiki as a dicdef, I think. — [[User:Becksguy|Becksguy]] ([[User talk:Becksguy|talk]]) 04:55, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
== Homonormativity ==

Ran across another term that needs some serious work - or needs to be deleted. [[Homonormativity]] has self-referential links, needs wikification, needs actual refs. Does anyone know if this is even notable? Or should it just be transwikied to wiktionary? Or deleted? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 04:27, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
:Merge to [[heteronormativity]]? [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 00:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

== [[Del Martin]] ==

An anon IP just posted that she died. I checked CNN and SFgate.com, with no news. --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 18:53, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

:Yes, someone at [[WP:ANI]] just requested page protection. Didn't get it, as there hasn't been any vandalism yet. I would suggest that as many of us watch this as possible over the next few days just in case it gets vandalised. I'll hunt out some sources if possible. --[[User:Ged UK|Ged UK]] ([[User talk:Ged UK|talk]]) 19:30, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

::Here's a source, via AP. [http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_10316606]. --[[User:Ged UK|Ged UK]] ([[User talk:Ged UK|talk]]) 19:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
== [[E.O. Green School shooting]] ==

Interested editors may wish to participate in a discussion on the [[Talk:E.O. Green School shooting]] page regarding a NPOV tag recently placed on the article. [[User:Exploding Boy|Exploding Boy]] ([[User talk:Exploding Boy|talk]]) 20:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

== Marriage Listings ==

I don't think we should list [[Coquille Indian Tribe]] (Oregon) as a place where marriage is legal. It is not a state, unless this is some huge tribe, that I know nothing about, and is prominent. <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 02:41, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:I believe it was huge news as it contradicted the vote in Oregon itself. If you are referring to the "Coquille" being listed on [[Template:Same-sex unions]], I generally support it but that template has an active talk page and you might get a more thoughtful response there. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 03:05, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:: <s>I'll post a link from the page to this one, since it has been started here, and responded by you, Benji</s>
::[[Template_talk:Same-sex_unions#Marriage_Listings|conversation here]] <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 03:09, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
== LGBT image vandalism ==

[[Image:Paul DeBoy being hugged by PJ DeBoy on the Great South Bay.jpg|thumb|I'm going to work on a [[Paul Dawson (actor)]] article at some point. He was in [[Shortbus]] (pictured with boyfriend [[PJ DeBoy]].]]Hey guys - there has been some recent image vandalism on LGBT articles. Can you guys please watch these pages:
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*[[Andy Towle]]
*[[Jason Bellini]]
*[[Fire Island Pines]]
*[[PJ DeBoy]]
*[[Public sex]]
*[[King Charles Spaniel]]
*[[Great South Bay]]
*[[Diving]]
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--<font color="#0000C0">David</font> '''[[User:David Shankbone|<font color="#0000C0">Shankbone</font>]]''' 15:51, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

:BTW, for new editors to the project, you can view a "watchlist" of all articles in the project by viewing [[Special:Recentchangeslinked/Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies/Articles]]. Or there's a nifty userbox you can put on your user page - see {{tl|LGBTWatchall}}. Though, come to think of it, I'm not sure [[diving]] is part of our project... :) -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 16:02, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

It's those skimpy Speedos, Satyr. And [[Greg Louganis]], [[Mark Spitz]], [[Michael Phelps]], &.... ;-) — [[User:Becksguy|Becksguy]] ([[User talk:Becksguy|talk]]) 11:28, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

The [[user:David Shankbone/72.76|72.76 vandal]] seems to be back and now targeting Davids other photos. If you notice images disappearing this may be why. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 12:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

== Collaboration of the Month ==

The "current" one is the [[LGBT symbols|one we picked for ''January'']]. Are we doing this at all? Is it dead in the water? Have we just run out of what we want to do on that one and need to pick a new one? Or do we want to abandon the CotM idea altogether? Thoughts? [[User:Aleta|<b><font color="#990066">'''Aleta'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Aleta|<font color="#0095B6"><sup><small>'''Sing'''</small></sup></font>]] 18:08, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:Can I ask what on the face seems a pretty stupid question? What happens during a collaboration of the month? What's the goal? Who works on the article or list? --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 18:14, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
::In theory, we'd gang up on it and redecorate. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u></small><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:#8000FF">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]] 23:55, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
:::ROTFL! Exactly :) -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 00:12, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Huh. I've never heard -redecorate as the ending for the word gang-... and certainly not in a gay context ;)

::::All that aside, should we maybe pull our collective finger out (yes, I know, bottoms everywhere will complain) and come up with a September Collaboration? [[User:PrinceOfCanada|Prince of Canada]]<sup>[[User talk:PrinceOfCanada#top| t]] | [[Special:Contributions/PrinceOfCanada|c]]</sup> 01:34, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

:Ok. Well, I suggest [[E.O. Green School shooting]] since some vague accusations of POV are being leveled on the talk page. The sources are mixed between reliable and not at all. The writing in the article is sketchy, and it could do with updates and a lot more detail. --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 19:15, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::Good idea, Moni. [[User:Aleta|<b><font color="#990066">'''Aleta'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Aleta|<font color="#0095B6"><sup><small>'''Sing'''</small></sup></font>]] 16:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

== Tamil Nadu ==

I have no clue what to do with [[Transgender Rights in Tamil Nadu]]. Thoughts? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 05:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:It seems to be more broad than 'rights'. Perhaps a move to 'Transgender people in Tamil Nadu' would be more appropriate? A lot of claims in the lead need to be cited, too. [[User:PrinceOfCanada|Prince of Canada]]<sup>[[User talk:PrinceOfCanada#top| t]] | [[Special:Contributions/PrinceOfCanada|c]]</sup> 05:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

== Poetry ==

What about [[Male homosexual and gay poetry]] - anyone want to take a crack. At it? The title is way problematic (un-encyclopedic at best), and I'm not sure if it's trying to be a list or an article. Thoughts? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 04:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

== [[Gay_community#Criticisms]] ==

Anyone want to clean-up this gem --> [[Gay_community#Criticisms]]. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]]</small> 23:15, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
== Newsletter ==

Heya. A newsletter should have been sent out by now for August, obviously. I think this is part of my reaction to Jeffpw's passing. I thought it had to be addressed in the next issue, and I am unable to advance farther than that. Every time I think about the newsletter I enter a mental void that has me contently staring at a blank wall instead of turning around to confront sadness or anger. So - I'm not slacking... I'm avoiding. If someone who is better emotionally equipped than I would like to do the next one, please feel free. Maybe just to kick start me. --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 16:58, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
:I know what you mean. I keep thinking to myself, "Ooh, this reminds me of Jeff, I should message- oh, yeah..." *cries a bit*. [[User:Dev920|Dev920]], who misses [[User talk:Jeffpw/Memoriam|Jeffpw]]. 23:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
::We definitely need to put something in the next newsletter about Jeff. I suppose it could be as short as "The LGBT project misses Miss Julie", or we could try to talk about some of what Jeff accomplished here on WP in general... I don't know. What do y'all think? [[User:Aleta|<b><font color="#990066">'''Aleta'''</font></b>]] [[User_Talk:Aleta|<font color="#0095B6"><sup><small>'''Sing'''</small></sup></font>]] 17:17, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
:::My issue here is that I can't think of what else to put in because my brain would rather do less stressful things. I need ideas and tips. If someone wants to write about Jeff, please feel free to do so... --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 17:34, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

== Cat upmerges ==

I've proposed three category upmerges:
:* [[:Category:Gay villages in Texas]] up to [[:Category:Gay villages in the United States]]
:* [[:Category:Female wartime crossdressers in the American Civil War]] up to [[:Category:Female wartime crossdressers]]
:* [[:Category:Transgender and transsexual actors from the United States]] up to [[:Category:Transgender and transsexual actors]]
Please comment at: [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 10]]. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 00:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

; And renames:
Someone else nominated several categories for renaming, mostly along the lines of "Rename 'LGBT music' to 'LGBT-related music'". See [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 9#Category:LGBT media]] for more info. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 15:57, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
== LGBT Democrats ==

I'm concerned about the {{lcs|LGBT Democrats (United States)}}. On the one hand, it's the rule, not the exception. In other words, it's *much* more notable that someone is a part of the Republican party and LGBT. Also, why is it notable what party affiliation someone LGBT has? And finally, I haven't researched it, but party affiliation is probably a bit difficult to determine with a [[WP:RS|reliable source]] unless they're a politician, in which case they're already covered by [[:Category:LGBT politicians]]. Thoughts? CfD? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 15:54, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

*I created [[:Category:LGBT Democrats (United States)]] because there was also a [[:Category:LGBT Republicans (United States)]] and that way there would be a category for both. It didn't have anything to do with the party's stance of LGBTs. [[User:WillowGrove|WillowGrove]] ([[User talk:WillowGrove|talk]]) 17:00, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

::Does anyone else think this category should be kept? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 17:16, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::: I say nom both for CfD. <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 17:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

:::I don't think splitting LGBT politicans by party is necessary, but [[:Category:Log Cabin Republicans]] might not be a bad idea in terms of LGBT Republicans. [[User:Kolindigo|Kolindigo]] ([[User talk:Kolindigo|talk]]) 21:17, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::::On second thought, no. List of members of the Log Cabin Republicans is better off in that article, if anywhere. Three of the members listed there right now aren't even sourced. [[User:Kolindigo|Kolindigo]] ([[User talk:Kolindigo|talk]]) 21:21, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Splitting LGBT politicians by party is thoroughly unneccessary. One category, something like LGBT U.S. politician makes more sense. [[User:David in DC|David in DC]] ([[User talk:David in DC|talk]]) 00:08, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::: The creator of this questionable category was just [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser#Ari_Publican_2008-09-07 blocked as a sock puppet of a banned editor], FWIW. [[User:David in DC|David in DC]] ([[User talk:David in DC|talk]]) 02:09, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

:::::::I can't tell if some of the editors activities were good or not. Is there an easy way to undo this particular category? Or should it just be done manually? -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 17:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

::::::::Agree with ctjf83 [[User:David in DC|David in DC]] ([[User talk:David in DC|talk]]) 19:01, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

== Langston Hughes / Gilbert Price ==

Does anyone have the book "''The Life of Langston Hughes''"? There are no references I can find about [[Gilbert Price]], though I've read a couple places that [[Langston Hughes]] was in love with Price. If anyone has the book, could you find a relevant passage that says that Price was gay - or not? Thanks! -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 19:43, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
:I'll be spending some hours in the library this weekend. It has two books titled ''The Life of Langston Hughes''. One from 1986 and one from 1941. Which do you need? --[[User:Moni3|Moni3]] ([[User talk:Moni3|talk]]) 20:14, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
::No clue. Whichever one says that Price is gay, I guess. :) :) -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 20:15, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
== FYI: Banned 'Gay Pornography vandal' is back ==

You should all be warned that the banned “[[Wikipedia:List of banned users|Gay Pornography vandal]]” (ban date: March 6, 2008) is back on Wikipedia on [[User:David_Shankbone/72.76#Third_IP_range_beginning_in_September.3B_primarily_Commons|a different IP range]]. Although he still has access to his old IP range, he has begun using [[User:David_Shankbone/72.76#Second_IP_range|multiple IP ranges]]. Commons has [http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Vandalism#Ongoing_David_Shankbone_harrassment_-_page_protection_needed been wrestling] with the issue for awhile.

Aside from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Alison&diff=prev&oldid=235825966 death threats] and his [http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADavid_Shankbone&diff=1176976&oldid=1176844 usual boogedy-boogedy], he is also back to working on the [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pornographic_film&diff=235686909&oldid=235684224 porn articles], specifically, his vendetta [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Michael_Lucas_(director)&diff=next&oldid=238154031 with Michael Lucas], which spread to me. It also spurred the creation of new meta tools to deal with cyberstalking.

This is the range he is working in currently. Can someone please softprotect that article ([[Michael Lucas (director)]]) for a month. There is a long, voluminous, and threat-laden history to this page and its talk page. I suggest the longer soft-protect, the better.

As everyone remembers, this person's boundless anger quickly transfers to other people, and disrupts the incident board endlessly with complaints from multiple editors. I will cross-post this on a few former targets to give them a heads up. --<font color="#0000C0">David</font> '''[[User:David Shankbone|<font color="#0000C0">Shankbone</font>]]''' 16:04, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
: Wonderful, sounds like lots of fun! Can you give us that are unfamiliar with the vandal, more details? Is Lucas all he vandals, or does he do a lot of gay porn star articles? Can you also give us a few, or all of the IPs he has used to vandalize? <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 16:22, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

::See [[User:David Shankbone/72.76]] for more (dry) info; this is also a good place to 1. Log any that are likely this user and 2. refer admins when filing reports. They mask deletion and addition of slanderous content as meaningful edits. You may remember numerous reports of supposed concern on this page. "I'm worried about David Shankbone ... he seems to be ______" - followed by endless character maligning and tabloid-rich detail. They also have made an effort to delete images for a variety of reasons and engage in blather on talk pages. Invoking [[WP:RBI|revert, block, ignore]], as they are a banned editor, seems to work best. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]]</small> 17:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
*They also perplexingly spam my blog in edit summaries, driving readership to it. They don't just stick to gay porn, although for a good year before I met up with him he was working on the pornography articles, with a focus on Lucas, his films, and anyone who has been in his films. Now I'm included in this focus because, through his trolling of Lucas, we struck up a friendship. --<font color="#0000C0">David</font> '''[[User:David Shankbone|<font color="#0000C0">Shankbone</font>]]''' 18:34, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Do we by chance have any admins, due to the circumstances, to block the IPs for long (3 months plus) periods of time right off the bat? <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 19:54, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:: I got the page protected for a week...not long enough in my opinion, but we can revisit it after then. <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 20:15, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

=== Gay porn vandal target: [[Michael Lucas (director)]] ===
Currently creating BLP violations, and removing a professional photo Lucas released GFDL for a lesser photo (mine). --<font color="#0000C0">David</font> '''[[User:David Shankbone|<font color="#0000C0">Shankbone</font>]]''' 19:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

== Project box changes ==

I propose we change our project box, adding on a link to the talk page, recent changes, and stubs, like is done on the Simpsons project box [[:Template:User WikiProject The Simpsons]] and the Oregon project [[:Template:User WikiProject Oregon]] <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 16:48, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:Template at {{tl|User LGBT Project}}. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]]</small> 17:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:: What now? Are you saying post it there, with no other talk page entries? <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 17:33, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::You mean add the links for recent changes, stubs, and talk to the userbox itself? Sounds like a good idea to me. -- <span style="background: #EECCFF;">[[User:SatyrTN|SatyrTN]] <small>([[User talk:SatyrTN|talk]] / [[Special:Contributions/SatyrTN|contribs]])</small></span> 17:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
:::: Yes, SatyrnTN...more convenient and such. <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 18:07, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Ctjf83, I was just posting the link to the template you were referring. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]]</small> 18:40, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::: HAHA, thanks Benjiboi, I should have done that myself ;) Your thoughts on the matter? <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 18:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::I'd like to see the icon bigger and all the text seems too small as well - I also support the changes, presuming size is big enough to read. [[User_talk:Benjiboi| -- <small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<font color="#FF4400">e</font></u><u style="font-family: Zapfino, sans-serif;color:deeppink">b<font color="#CC0000">oi</font></u>]]</small> 19:25, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
::::::: Well I'm sure we can adjust the size and such. <font face="papyrus">[[User:Ctjf83|'''<font color="#ff0000">C</font><font color="#ff6600">t</font><font color="#ffff00">j</font><font color="#009900">f</font><font color="#0000ff">8</font><font color="#6600cc">3</font>''']][[User Talk:Ctjf83|Talk]]</font> 19:49, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

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Claudia Christian
Claudia Christian, 2005
Websitehttp://www.claudiachristian.net

Claudia Ann Christian (born August 10, 1965) is an American actress, writer, singer, musician, and director.

Biography

Christian was born in Glendale, California. She is most famous for her role as Commander Susan Ivanova on the science fiction television series Babylon 5. She left the series unexpectedly following the fourth season, when contract negotiations for the fifth and final season — aggravated by the possibility that there would not be one — broke down.[1] (Her appearance in the series finale was filmed during the fourth season.) Before Babylon 5, Christian was known for her feature film roles as a stripper possessed by an alien serial killer in The Hidden (1987), a police department psychologist Susan Riley in Maniac Cop 2 and as model Hexina in Hexed (1993). She posed nude for Playboy Magazine in October 1999.

She appeared in two episodes of Freaks and Geeks in 2000. In 2004, she returned to the live stage (and to Laguna Beach, California, where she had attended high school), starring in the U.S. Premiere of Michael Weller's play What the Night Is For, with Kip Gilman, directed by Richard Stein, at the Laguna Playhouse. Her most recent work is in the BBC comedy series, Broken News in 2005. She also plays Janine Foster, mother of Peri Brown, in the Doctor Who audio drama "The Reaping", produced by Big Finish Productions released in the UK in September 2006.

She appeared in a new play called Killing Time at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in Scotland 2nd-23rd of August 2006.

Filmography: TV and movies

FILM

  • Overnight (2008).... Sandy
  • Serbian Scars (2008) Meggie....Co-Producer
  • The Dot Man (2006).... Lieutenant Colonel Dunst
  • The Garden (2005).... Dr. Cairns
  • The Failures (2002)....Anna
  • Half Past Dead (2002)....EZ Williams
  • Atlantis (V) (2001)....Helga Sinclair
  • True Rights (2000).... Elaine Kilgore
  • Love & Sex (2000)
  • Haunting of Hell House, The (1999)....Lucy
  • Snide and Prejudice (1998).... Renate Muller
  • Mercenary II: Thick & Thin (1997).... Patricia Van Lier
  • Chase, The (1994).... Yvonne Voss
  • Hexed (1993).... Hexina
  • Gnome Named Gnorm, A (1992).... Samantha
  • Arena (1991).... Quinn
  • Dark Backward, The (1991).... Kitty
  • Mom (1990) (uncredited).... Virginia Monroe
  • Think Big (1990).... Dr. Irene Marsh
  • Maniac Cop 2 (1990).... Susan Riley
  • Tale of Two Sisters (1989).... Liz
  • Clean and Sober (1988).... Iris
  • Mad About You (1988).... Casey
  • Never on Tuesday (1988).... Tuesday
  • Hidden, The (1987).... Brenda Lee Van Buren
  • Starhyke (2005) TV Series (post-production) - Captain Belinda Blowhard
  • Broken News (2005) TV Series - Julia Regan - IBS
  • Geppetto's Secret (2005) (voice) - Blue Fairy
  • Shrek 2 (video game) (2004) (voice) -- Fairy Godmother
  • Secret Weapons Over Normandy (2003) (VG) (voice) -- White Rose
  • Everwood
    • aka Our New Life in Everwood (UK: new syndication title)
      • - "My Brother's Keeper" (2003) TV Episode - Young Edna Abbott
  • The Failures (2003) - Anna
  • She Spies
    • - "Spies vs. Spy" (2002) TV Episode - Tanya
  • Half Past Dead (2002) - Special Agent Ellen Williams
    • aka Halbtot - Half Past Dead (Germany)
  • Earth and Beyond (2002) (VG) (voice) - Lady Katherine Isabella Olivia deWinter
  • Summoner 2 (2002) (VG) (voice) - Sangaril, Logosarch, Rosalind, Dama Heras
    • aka Summoner: A Goddess Reborn (USA: GameCube version)
  • NYPD Blue
    • - Better Laid Than Never: Part 1 (2002) TV Episode - Catherine Lowe
    • - Better Laid Than Never: Part 2 (2002) TV Episode - Catherine Lowe
  • Darth Vader's Psychic Hotline (2002) - Princess Leia (voice)
  • Hot Rush (2002) - Jane
  • Relic Hunter
    • - "All Choked Up" (2001) TV Episode - Carson Inez
  • Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) (VG) (voice) - Helga Sinclair
  • Atlantis: The Lost Empire (2001) (voice) - Helga Katrina Sinclair
  • Atlantis: The Lost Empire - Search for the Journal (2001) (VG) (voice)
  • Never Die Twice (2001)
  • Freaks and Geeks
    • - "Dead Dogs and Gym Teachers" (2000) TV Episode - Gloria Haverchuck
    • - "Chokin' and Tokin'" (2000) TV Episode - Gloria Haverchuck
  • True Rights (2000) - Elaine Kilgore
  • Family Law
    • - "Are You My Father?" (2000) TV Episode
  • Love & Sex (2000) (uncredited) - Woman in Gallery at End
  • The Haunting of Hell House (1999) - Lucy
  • Final Voyage (1999) - Max
  • The Substitute 3: Winner Takes All (1999) - Andy
  • Running Home (1999) - Jules Daniels
  • Babylon 5 (1994-1997, 1998) - Susan Ivanova
  • Babylon 5: Thirdspace (1998) - Susan Ivanova
  • Kelly Kelly
    • - "Doodler" (1998) TV Episode - Anya
  • A Wing and a Prayer (1998) - Shelley Lowe
  • Highlander: The Series
  • Babylon 5: In the Beginning (1998) - Susan Ivanova
  • Total Security
    • - "Pilot" (1997) TV Episode - Cheryl Bankston
  • Snide and Prejudice (1997) - Renate Muller
  • Journey Beneath the Sea (1997) (V) (voice) - Queen Aquareine
  • Lancelot: Guardian of Time (1997) - Katherine Shelley
  • Mercenary II: Thick & Thin (1997) - Patricia Van Lier
  • Solar Eclipse (1995) (VG) - 'Raven' Maj. Delany Kelt
    • aka Titan
    • aka Titan Wars (UK)
  • The Chase (1994) - Yvonne Voss
  • Columbo: It's All In the Game (1993) - Lisa
  • Hexed (1993) - Hexina
    • - aka "All Shook Up" (UK: video title)
  • Space Rangers
    • - "Death Before Dishonor" (1993) TV Episode - Marla Baker
  • Relentless: Mind of a Killer (1993) - Leeann Hardy
  • The Itsy Bitsy Spider (1992) (voice)
  • Strays (1991) (TV) - Claire Lederer
  • The Woman Who Sinned (1991) (TV) - Judy Reinhardt
  • Lies of the Twins (1991) (TV) - Felice
  • The Dark Backward (1991) - Kitty
    • - aka "The Man with Three Arms" (UK)
  • Dark Justice
    • - "To Die For" (1991) TV Episode - Dana Hollister Harrison
  • L.A. Law
    • - "Speak, Lawyers, for Me" (1991) TV Episode - Susan Convers
  • My Life and Times (1991) TV Series - Jessie (young)
  • Murder, She Wrote
    • - "The Prodigal Father" (1991) TV Episode - Bonnie Jenks Hastings
  • Kaleidoscope (1990) (TV) - Meagan
    • - aka "Danielle Steel's 'Kaleidoscope'" (UK)
  • A Gnome Named Gnorm (1992) - Samantha
    • - aka "The Adventures of a Gnome Named Gnorm"
    • - aka "Upworld"
  • Maniac Cop 2 (1990) - Susan Riley
  • Mad About You (1990) - Cassandra 'Casey' Harris
  • Matlock
    • - "The Blackmailer" (1990) TV Episode - Mickey Alder
  • Think Big (1990) - Dr. Irene Marsh
  • Mom (1990) (uncredited) - Virginia Monroe
  • Jake and the Fatman
    • - "Easy to Love" (1989) TV Episode - Sgt. Alex Walker
  • Shannon's Deal (1989) - Molly Temple
  • Quantum Leap
    • - "Play It Again, Seymour - April 14, 1953" (1989) TV Episode - Allison
  • Arena (1989) - Quinn
  • Tale of Two Sisters (1989) - Elizabeth
  • Police Story: Monster Manor (1988) (TV) - Officer Babs Altoon
  • Clean and Sober (1988) - Iris
  • Never on Tuesday (1988) - Tuesday
  • The Hidden (1987) - Brenda Lee Van Buren
  • The Highwayman (Pilot film) (1987) (TV) - Dawn
    • - aka "Terror on the Blacktop" (note: did not go on to appear in the following series)
  • It's Garry Shandling's Show
    • - "Dial L for Laundry" (1987) TV Episode - Sylvia
  • Outlaws
    • - "Madril" (1987) TV Episode
  • Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer
    • - aka The New Mike Hammer (USA: new title)
      • - Elegy for a Tramp (1987) TV Episode
      • - Shots in the Dark (1984) TV Episode - Elyse
  • Hunter
    • - "Love, Hate, and Sporty James" (1986) TV Episode - Roxanne Hoffmeyer
  • Houston: The Legend of Texas (1986) - Eliza Allen
    • - aka "Gone to Texas"
  • Blacke's Magic (1986) (TV) - Laurie Blacke
    • - "Breathing Room" (Pilot)
  • A Masterpiece of Murder (1986) (TV) - Julia Forsythe
  • Blacke's Magic (1986) (TV) - Laurie
  • Berrenger's (1985) TV series - Melody Hughes
  • The A-Team
    • - "Trouble Brewing" (1985) TV Episode - Cathy Rogers
  • Riptide
    • - "Where the Girls Are" (1984) TV Episode - Marion Gordon
  • Calendar Girl Murders (1984) (TV) - Kara
    • - aka "Insatiable"
    • - aka "Victimised" (UK: video title)
    • - aka "Victimized"
  • Falcon Crest
    • - "Tests of Faith" (1984) TV Episode - Kate Mars
  • Dallas
    • - "Some Do...Some Don't" (1984) TV Episode
  • T.J. Hooker
    • - "The Lipstick Killer" (1984) TV Episode - Betty MacRae

Director

  • The Heartbreak Cafe (1997) TV Series (one episode)

Herself

  • Ghostwatch Live (2001) TV Series - Herself/Presenter
  • The Big Breakfast
    • - Episode dated 22 August 2001 (2001) TV Episode - Herself
  • Space Cadets
    • - "Morks vs. Mindys" (1997) TV Episode - Herself
    • - "Blobs vs. Things" (1997) TV Episode - Herself

Discography

Writing

Quotes

  • "Cooking is great, love is grand, but souffles fall and lovers come and go. But you can always depend on a book!"
  • "Apparently I've been typecast in science fiction: I'm a Russian bisexual telepathic Jew."

References

  1. ^ Joe M. Straczynski, Claudia Christian (quoted from correspondence). "About Claudia Christian's Departure". The Lurker's Guide to Babylon 5.
  2. ^ "Under the Moon Official Website". Retrieved 2007-04-29.

External links