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==Uncontroversial proposals== |
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| Name = Thomas Andrew Dorsey |
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Only list proposals here that are ''clearly'' uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). ''Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone.'' '''Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section''' and use '''<nowiki> {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}}</nowiki>''' rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required. |
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| Img_capt = Come on Mama, Do That Dance<br />Georgia Tom Dorsey<br />[[Yazoo Records|Yazoo]] 1041 |
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| Birth_name = Thomas Andrew Dorsey |
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| Born = {{birth date|1899|7|1}} |
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| Died = {{Death date and age|1993|1|23|1899|7|1}} <small>[[Chicago, Illinois|Chicago]], [[Illinois]], [[USA]]</small> |
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| Origin = [[Villa Rica, Georgia]] |
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| Instrument = [[piano]] |
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| Genre = [[Gospel music]]<br>[[Blues]] |
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'''Thomas Andrew Dorsey''' ([[July 1]], [[1899]], [[Villa Rica, Georgia]] - [[January 23]], [[1993]], [[Chicago]]), is known as "the father of gospel music". Earlier in his life he was a leading [[blues]] pianist known as '''Georgia Tom'''. |
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* '''[[:Se Ri Pak]] → {{noredirect|Pak Se Ri }}''' — korean names on Wikipedia are family name first. [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Korean)]] — [[Special:Contributions/70.20.93.233|70.20.93.233]] ([[User talk:70.20.93.233|talk]]) 01:41, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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* '''[[:Only By the Night]] → {{noredirect|Only by the Night}}''' — Caps — —[[User:Koavf|Justin (koavf)]]❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯ 06:11, 10 September 2008 (UTC) |
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As formulated by Dorsey, [[gospel music]] combines [[Christianity|Christian]] praise with the rhythms of [[jazz]] and the [[blues]]. His conception also deviates from what had been, to that time, standard hymnal practice by referring explicitly to the self, and the self's relation to faith and God, rather than the individual subsumed into the group via belief. |
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==Incomplete and contested proposals== |
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'''With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here.''' If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed. |
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Dorsey was the music director at [[Pilgrim Baptist Church]] in Chicago from 1932 until the late 1970s. His best known composition, "[[Take My Hand, Precious Lord]]", was performed by [[Mahalia Jackson]] and was a favorite of the Rev. [[Martin Luther King Jr]], and "[[Peace in the Valley]]", which was a hit for [[Red Foley]] in 1951 and has been performed by dozens of other artists, including [[Elvis Presley]] and [[Johnny Cash]]. |
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*'''[[Naïve]] → [[Naive]]''' - According to the ''Random House Unabridged Dictionary, The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, The American Heritage® Stedman's Medical Dictionary, Merriam-Webster's Dictionary, Online Etymology Dictionary, WordNet® 3.0, The Free On-line Dictionary of Computing, and Garner's Modern American Usage'', ''Naive'' (w/o the dieresis) is the standard English spelling, and ''Naïve" (w/ the dieresis) is the variant form. Article should be the standard spelling with the variant redirecting. [[User:Kman543210|Kman543210]] ([[User talk:Kman543210|talk]]) 21:36, 8 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:The article [[Naïve]] covers more than just the word "naïve". — [[User:Twas Now|'''Twas ''Now''''']] <small>( [[User talk:Twas Now|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twas Now|contribs]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Twas Now|e-mail]] )</small> 21:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC) |
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In 2002, the [[Library of Congress]] honored his album ''[[Precious Lord: New Recordings of the Great Songs of Thomas A. Dorsey]]'' (1973), by adding it to the [[List of recordings preserved in the United States National Recording Registry|United States National Recording Registry]]. |
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==Other proposals== |
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==Life and career== |
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Dorsey's father was a minister and his mother a piano teacher. He learned to play blues piano as a young man. After studying music formally in Chicago, he became an agent for [[Paramount Records]]. He put together a band for [[Ma Rainey]] called the "Wild Cats Jazz Band" in 1924. |
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He started out playing at rent parties with the names '''Barrelhouse Tom''' and '''Texas Tommy''', but he was most famous as '''Georgia Tom'''. As Georgia Tom, he teamed up with [[Tampa Red]] (Hudson Whittaker) with whom he recorded the raunchy 1928 hit record "Tight Like That", a sensation, selling seven million copies. In all, he is credited with more than 400 blues and jazz songs. |
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=== [[10 September]] [[2008]] === |
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Personal tragedy led Dorsey to leave secular music behind and began writing and recording what he called "gospel" music. He was the first to use that term. His first wife, Nettie, who had been Rainey's wardrobe mistress, died in childbirth in 1932 along with his first son. In his grief, he wrote his most famous song, one of the most famous of all gospel songs, "[[Take My Hand, Precious Lord]]". |
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*(''[[Talk:Chance-Vought F4U survivors#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Per [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (aircraft)]] --[[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor]] [[User talk:Trevor MacInnis|MacInnis]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Trevor MacInnis|Contribs]])</small> 19:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC) - [[User:Trevor MacInnis|Trevor]] [[User talk:Trevor MacInnis|MacInnis]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Trevor MacInnis|Contribs]])</small> 19:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Unhappy with the treatment received at the hands of established publishers, Dorsey opened the first black gospel music publishing company, Dorsey House of Music. He also founded his own gospel choir and was a founder and first president of the National Convention of Gospel Choirs and Choruses. |
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*'''[[:Clean coal technology]] → [[:Clean coal]]''' —(''[[Talk:Clean coal technology#Title|Discuss]]'')— Better describes the article. --- [[User talk:Eldereft|Eldereft]] <small>([[Special:Contributions/Eldereft|cont.]])</small> 16:43, 9 September 2008 (UTC) |
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His influence was not limited to African American music, as white musicians also followed his lead. "Precious Lord" has been recorded by [[Elvis Presley]], [[Mahalia Jackson]], [[Aretha Franklin]], [[Clara Ward]], [[Roy Rogers]], and [[Tennessee Ernie Ford]], among hundreds of others. It was a favorite gospel song of the Rev. [[Martin Luther King]], Jr. and was sung at the rally the night before his assassination, and at his funeral by Mahalia Jackson, per his request. It was also a favorite of President [[Lyndon B. Johnson]], who requested it to be sung at his funeral. Dorsey was also a great influence on other Chicago based gospel artists such as "Queen of Gospel" [[Albertina Walker]] and [[The Caravans]]. |
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*'''[[:Environmental issues with biodiesel]] → [[:Environmental issues with biofuels]]''' —(''[[Talk:Environmental issues with biodiesel#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— No reason given by nominator. ---- [[User:Alan Liefting|Alan Liefting]] ([[User_talk:Alan_Liefting|talk]]) - 08:06, 9 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Dorsey wrote "Peace in the Valley" for Mahalia Jackson in 1937, which also became a gospel standard. He was the first African American elected to the [[Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame]] and also the first in the [[Gospel Music Association]]'s Living Hall of Fame. He was inducted into the [[Gennett Records]] Walk of Fame in 2007. His papers are preserved at [[Fisk University]], along with those of [[W.C. Handy]], [[George Gershwin]], and the [[Fisk Jubilee Singers]]. |
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*'''[[:The Latin American X-Change]] → [[:The Latin American Xchange]]''' —(''[[Talk:The Latin American X-Change#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— It will not allow me to move it there, also as per a discussion at [[WP:PW/ANC]]. --[[User:Wrestlinglover|<font color="Red">'''Will'''</font>]][[User talk:Wrestlinglover|<font color="Blue">'''C'''</font>]] 03:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC) |
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The works of Thomas A. Dorsey have proliferated beyond performance, into the [[hymnals]] of virtually all American churches and of English-speaking churches worldwide. |
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=== [[8 September]] [[2008]] === |
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*'''[[:Northern Areas]] → [[:Federally Administered Northern Areas]]''' —(''[[Talk:Northern Areas#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— In line with naming conventions applied to other Pakistani provinces, e.g. [[North-West Frontier Province]] (and equally [[Federally Administered Tribal Areas]]), I propose that this article's title should be ''Federally Administered Northern Areas'' (presently a redirect to ''Northern Areas''). Apart from the reason already provided (i.e. consistency), I would add one more: it would make the generally applied abbreviation ''[[FANA]]'' more easily understood. --[[User:Meco|meco]] ([[User talk:Meco|talk]]) 10:05, 8 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Thomas was a member of the [[Omega Psi Phi|Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Incorporated]]. |
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*'''[[:Seattle, Washington]] → [[:Seattle]]''' —(''[[Talk:Seattle, Washington#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Disambiguation is unnecessary; "Seattle" most often refers to the city. Moving would prevent everyone who types in "Seattle" from being greeted with "Redirected from...". Moving would also follow the lead of other articles about large cities such as [[Chicago]], [[New York City]], [[Oslo]], and [[Amsterdam]]. --—[[User:Remember the dot|Remember the dot]] <sup>([[User talk:Remember the dot|talk]])</sup> 05:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC) |
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He died in Chicago, Illinois and was interred there in the Oak Woods Cemetery. |
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*'''[[:Siamese fighting fish]] → [[:Betta splendens]]''' —(''[[Talk:Siamese fighting fish#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The far more common name for these fish is simply "Betta". There are no foods marketed towards "fighting fish" or "rumble fish", or even "betta fish". [[Betta]] is already taken, so this article should be located at [[Betta splendens]], not at a next-runner-up common name. I had possibly encountered the name "Siamese fighting fish" when I was a child, but not since, until I came across this article. It's just silly. A Google search for Siamese fighting fish yields 184,000, but Betta splendens yields 341,000, implying that even the scientific name is more common than this "common name". --~ '''[[User:JohnnyMrNinja|<font color="#206080">JohnnyMrNinja</font>]]''' 04:33, 8 September 2008 (UTC) |
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In 2007, he was inducted as a charter member of the [[Gennett Records]] Walk of Fame in [[Richmond, Indiana]]. |
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*'''[[:Irish florin coin]] → [[:Florin (Irish coin)]]''' —(''[[Talk:Irish florin coin#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Consistency with other [[florin]]s and removal of the form "florin coin", which is redundant and not commonly used. Simply "florin" is best. "Irish florin" would also be an improvement. --[[User:Srnec|Srnec]] ([[User talk:Srnec|talk]]) 04:04, 8 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==References== |
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=== [[7 September]] [[2008]] === |
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*Michael W. Harris, ''The Rise of Gospel Blues: The Music of Thomas Andrew Dorsey in the Urban Church'' Oxford University Press, 1992, ISBN 0195063767. |
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*'''[[:Ayaka Nishiwaki]] → [[:A~chan]]''' —(''[[Talk:Ayaka Nishiwaki#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Move requested according to [[WP:Naming conventions]] - A~chan her professional name and is far more commonly used and shorter than her full name --[[User:Torika|Torika]] ([[User talk:Torika|talk]]) 19:38, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*Tony Heilbut, ''The Gospel Sound: Good News and Bad Times'' Limelight Editions, 1997, ISBN 0-87910-034-6. |
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*'''[[:Amputee fetishism]] → [[:Acrotomophilia]]''' —(''[[Talk:Amputee fetishism#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The name is oxymoronic slang, and contradicts the currently existing name of the [[Apotemnophilia]] article. --[[User:Redblueball|Redblueball]] ([[User talk:Redblueball|talk]]) 17:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC) [[User:Redblueball|Redblueball]] ([[User talk:Redblueball|talk]]) 17:34, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*Horace Clarence Boyer, ''How Sweet the Sound: The Golden Age of Gospel'' Elliott and Clark, 1995, ISBN 0-252-06877-7. |
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*'''[[:Qinhuangdao Olympic Sports Centre Stadium]] → [[:Qinhuangdao Olympic Sports Center Stadium]]''' —(''[[Talk:Qinhuangdao Olympic Sports Centre Stadium#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— This is a proper name, and should use the spelling of the proper name. --[[User:Samuel Webster|Samuel Webster]] ([[User talk:Samuel Webster|talk]]) 16:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*Bernice Johnson Reagon, ''We'll Understand It Better By And By: Pioneering African-American Gospel Composers'' Smithsonian Institution, 1992, ISBN 1-56098-166-0. |
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*'''[[:Free Area of the Republic of China]] → [[:Taiwan Area]]''' —(''[[Talk:Free Area of the Republic of China#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The current article name is a politically POV term used by independence groups of Taiwan. The article interwikis to 타이완 지구, 台灣地區, and 臺灣地區, which mean "Taiwan region" in Korean, Cantonese, and Chinese respectively. The article is linked-in by number of articles as if it is an article about Taiwan (for example [[Ministry of Education (Republic of China)]], [[Ministry of Justice Investigation Bureau]]). The current name is POV because one can easily find a term describing the opposing points of view (i.e. liberate Taiwan, unliberated province of China). The proposed name "Taiwan Area" comes from the article itself, which states 'In ordinary legislation, the term "Taiwan Area" is usually used'. "Taiwan Area" is a politically neutral term because it only mentions geography and it agrees with the current interwikis. --[[User:Voidvector|Voidvector]] ([[User talk:Voidvector|talk]]) 16:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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==External links== |
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*'''[[:Alexander Dennis Pointer]] → [[:Plaxton Pointer]]''' —(''[[Talk:Alexander Dennis Pointer#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Vehicle was sold under several different marques during its lifetime, but Plaxton Pointer is the most commonly used name by a significant margin (the Google test suggests a factor of 20), so the move would be in accordance with [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. --[[User:Quackdave|Quackdave]] ([[User talk:Quackdave|talk]]) 14:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*[http://www.chicagohs.org/AOTM/feb00/feb00fact1.html Biography by the Chicago Historical Society], includes musical links |
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*[http://www.southernmusic.net/thomasdorsey.htm Biography] from the [http://www.southernmusic.net Southern Music Network] |
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*[http://www.dovesong.com/Positive_music/archives/gospel/Dorsey.asp "The Father of the Chicago Gospel Singing Movement"], including MP3 links. |
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* [http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-1603&hl=y "Georgia Tom" Dorsey in Georgia] (the New Georgia Encyclopedia) |
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Dorsey, Thomas A.}} |
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*'''[[:Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Milošević era, and the Kosovo War]] → [[:History of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia]]''' —(''[[Talk:Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, Milošević era, and the Kosovo War#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— In line with standard practice (ie History of + country) and to avoid the use of potentially POV wording "Milošević era". --[[User:Asterion|<span style="color:#0000FF;font-weight:bold;">'''Asterion'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Asterion|<span style="color:#00EF00;">'''talk'''</span>]]</sup> 11:56, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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[[Category:1899 births]] |
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[[Category:Country blues musicians]] |
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[[Category:Gospel blues musicians]] |
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[[Category:American blues pianists]] |
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[[Category:American jazz pianists]] |
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[[Category:American songwriters]] |
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[[Category:American gospel singers]] |
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[[Category:People from Villa Rica, Georgia]] |
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[[de:Thomas A. Dorsey]] |
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*'''[[:Poseur (music)]] → [[:Poseur]]''' —(''[[Talk:Poseur (music)#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— "[[Poseur]]" is currently protected from creation. The term applies to more than just music—it applies to the subculture in full (whatever subculture that may be). --— [[User:Twas Now|'''Twas ''Now''''']] <small>( [[User talk:Twas Now|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Twas Now|contribs]] • [[Special:Emailuser/Twas Now|e-mail]] )</small> 09:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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[[es:Thomas A. Dorsey]] |
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*'''[[:Kontinental Hockey League]] → [[:Continental Hockey League]]''' —(''[[Talk:Kontinental Hockey League#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— KHL isn't abbreviation. It's English transliteration for Russian acronym КХЛ(Континентальная хоккейная лига=Continental Hockey League), so true name of article is Continental Hockey League. Undoubtedly, it would be better to use CHL instead of KHL, but somebody in our(Russian) hockey federation wasn't clever enough.. — [[User:QZip|QZip]] ([[User talk:QZip|talk]]) 09:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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[[vi:Thomas A. Dorsey]] |
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*'''[[:Pharmaceutical company]] → [[:Pharmaceutical industry]]''' —(''[[Talk:Pharmaceutical company#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The article deals more with the industry as a whole than with the concept of an individual company. After moving, we can write a short article for "Pharmaceutical company". --[[User:Eric Kvaalen|Eric Kvaalen]] ([[User talk:Eric Kvaalen|talk]]) 08:50, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:'hours...']] → ?''' —(''[[Talk:'hours...'#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— This seems like a blatant disregard of [[WP:MOSTM]], and the title obviously needs to be changed to something else. However, media sources use many different names when referring to the album, including ''Hours'', ''Hours...'', ''<nowiki>'Hours...'</nowiki>'', and ''hours...''. —[[User:Xnux|<span style = "color: #009900">'''Xnux'''</span>]] [[User talk:Xnux|<span style = "color: #000000">'''the'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Xnux|<span style = "color: #009900">'''Echidna'''</span>]] 02:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC) |
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=== [[6 September]] [[2008]] === |
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*'''[[:Basque Country (historical territory)]] → [[:Euskal Herria]]''' —(''[[Talk:Basque Country (historical territory)#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The current title's parenthesis is misleading and the title without parenthesis is [[Basque Country|taken]] (and [[Basque Country (autonomous community)|ambiguous]]). This article is/should be about a ''concept'', not a "historical territory", see [[:es:Euskal Herria|the Spanish Wiki]] for a similar solution. This proposal stems from discussions about problems in the article's content and "info"box over the last few days. It might be useful for those interested in the move request to read those debate threads first. --[[User:Srnec|Srnec]] ([[User talk:Srnec|talk]]) 18:01, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Battle of Hurtgen Forest]] → [[:Battle of Hürtgen Forest]]''' —(''[[Talk:Battle of Hurtgen Forest#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The present name violates Wikipedia style for treatment of foreign words with diacritics --[[User:Pkkphysicist|PKKloeppel]] ([[User talk:Pkkphysicist|talk]]) 13:15, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Willem II Tilburg]] → [[:Willem II (football club)]]''' —(''[[Talk:Willem II Tilburg#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The name of the town, Tilburg, is only in the name of the company behind the club. The club itself is called Willem II, it is registered with the relevant associations as Willem II and it is known by the public as Willem II. See for instance the club website [http://www.willem-ii.nl Willem-II.nl], the [http://www.eredivisie.nl/subpage.aspx?l1=1643&action=clubinfo&clubid=19 club information] on the official [[Eredivisie]] website, the [http://www.uefa.com/footballeurope/club=52987/domestic.html club information] on the [[UEFA]] website and the [http://www.vi.nl/Teams/Team.htm?dbid=517&typeofpage=84139 club information] on the [[Voetbal International]] website. --[[User:Aec is away|Aecis·(away)]] [[User talk:Aecis|<sup>talk</sup>]] 12:18, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Giovanni di Stefano]] → [[:Giovanni Di Stefano]]''' —(''[[Talk:Giovanni di Stefano#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Capitalization preferred by the subject of the article, sources use both capitalizations interchangeably. See [[Talk:Giovanni_di_Stefano/Archive_3#Rename_as_Giovanni_Di_Stefano.3F|archived discussion]] where nobody raised any issues. --[[User:Enric Naval|Enric Naval]] ([[User talk:Enric Naval|talk]]) 01:23, 6 September 2008 (UTC) |
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=== [[5 September]] [[2008]] === |
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*'''[[:Risk Management Plan]] → [[:Risk management plan]]''' —(''[[Talk:Risk Management Plan#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Capitalization --[[User:Leolaursen|Leo Laursen]] – [[User talk:Leolaursen|✍]] [[Special:Contributions/Leolaursen|⌘]] 08:02, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Kačanik]] → [[:Kaçanik]]''' —(''[[Talk:Kačanik#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Due to the new status and the majority population --[[User:Cradel| <font color="gray">'''C'''</font>]][[User Talk:Cradel|<font color="grey">'''D'''</font>]] 06:59, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Attractive Nuisance]] → [[:Attractive Nuisance (album)]]''' —(''[[Talk:Attractive Nuisance#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Attractive Nuisance is a legal concept, borrowed for the title of a record album. The primary article should be the legal concept, with a disambiguation link to the album --[[User:Paul Foxworthy|Paul Foxworthy]] ([[User talk:Paul Foxworthy|talk]]) 03:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats]] → [[:Chocolate Tea Cakes]]''' —(''[[Talk:Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— I am proposing that we change the name of 'Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats' to 'Chocolate Teacakes. The name is abit daft and to biased towards an American spelling. When I googled Chocolate Tea cakes, I got 506,000 results. But when I googled Chocolate-coated marshmallow treats, I only got 2,320 results. So would it not make sense to rename it 'Chocolate Tea Cakes'? Its much more relevant. --[[User:Teacake Martyr|Teacake Martyr]] ([[User talk:Teacake Martyr|talk]]) 14:57, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:In Search of Sunrise: North American Summer Tour 2008]] → [[:In Search of Sunrise: Summer Tour 2008]]''' —(''[[Talk:In Search of Sunrise: North American Summer Tour 2008#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The tour does not involve only North America, the tour includes Europe as a leg of the tour and therefore it should be changed to a more broad title. Rather than creating a new article titled "In Search of Sunrise: European Summer Tour 2008", it is better for both articles to be included together but first the title must be changed in order to add the new information on the European leg --[[User:Lonelysoulq|Lonelysoulq]] ([[User talk:Lonelysoulq|talk]]) 21:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Altamont Motorsports Park]] → [[:Altamont Raceway Park]]''' —(''[[Talk:Altamont Motorsports Park#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— New name of the track per [http://www.altamontracing.com/ Track website]. --[[User:Gateman1997|Gateman1997]] ([[User talk:Gateman1997|talk]]) 23:38, 4 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Devil Summoner]] → [[:Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner]]''' —(''[[Talk:Devil Summoner#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Change to complete title. Currently [[Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Summoner]] is just a redirect, so it won't affect a lot if anything. --[[User:SharkD|SharkD]] ([[User talk:SharkD|talk]]) 23:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:GC17]] → [[:Gold Coast Football Club]]''' —(''[[Talk:GC17#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Official club name now announced --[[User:The-Pope|The-Pope]] ([[User talk:The-Pope|talk]]) 12:56, 4 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Decline of the Roman Empire]] → [[:Fall of the Roman Empire]]''' —(''[[Talk:Decline of the Roman Empire#Article name (Requested move)|Discuss]]'')— Per WP:Name, this is the most common name. <s>Already agreed on by consensus in talk page discussion.</s> --[[User:Carl.bunderson|Carl.bunderson]] ([[User talk:Carl.bunderson|talk]]) 07:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia]] → [[:International Reaction to the Independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia]]''' —(''[[Talk:International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— We agreed on talk page that the original should be split in two. I've already made a page for International Recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia and now we need this page moved to avoid confusion. Thank you! |
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:*The split being discussed is into "reaction to" and "recognition of". I don't see consensus for such a split on the talk page - and I don't think it's a good idea. The two concepts seem completely intertwined to me. If there were a clear consensus, I'd say 'try it', we can always merge later if it doesn't work. But lacking consensus, I don't think it's a good idea. Regards, [[User talk:BenAveling|Ben Aveling]] 22:06, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:1977 Tenerife KLM-Pan Am 747 runway collision]] → [[:Tenerife airport disaster]]''' —(''[[Talk:1977 Tenerife KLM-Pan Am 747 runway collision#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— partially fix a previous undiscussed move. Move over redirect required --[[User:MickMacNee|MickMacNee]] ([[User talk:MickMacNee|talk]]) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC) |
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:*There's not uniform agreement on dropping out the year on this proposed title. Several, including me, prefer [[:1977 Tenerife airport disaster]]. See the talk pages of the article for details. -- [[User:Yellowdesk|Yellowdesk]] ([[User talk:Yellowdesk|talk]]) 06:00, 5 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Woodstock]] → [[:Woodstock (disambiguation)]]''' —(''[[Talk:Woodstock#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Primary topic identified. Request for current page to be moved to dab page with [[Woodstock]] becoming a redirect to [[Woodstock Festival]] --[[User:Viriditas|Viriditas]] ([[User talk:Viriditas|talk]]) 23:10, 3 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Diocletianic Persecution]] → [[:Great Persecution]]''' —(''[[Talk:Diocletianic Persecution#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Nowhere (outside Wikipedia) is the term "Diocletianic Persecution" in wide use. Most reliable sources use the term "Great Persecution" to define the matter for study. Not all of Diocletian's persecutions are covered by the subject matter of the "Great Persecution" as traditionally defined. Not all persecutions covered by the subject matter of the "Great Persecution" as traditionally defined are strictly 'Diocletianic'. --[[User:Geuiwogbil|Geuiwogbil]] ([[User talk:Geuiwogbil|Talk]]) 16:27, 3 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Hugo Boss AG]] → [[:Hugo Boss]]''' —(''[[Talk:Hugo Boss AG#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The company's brand name is ''Hugo Boss'', the "[[Aktiengesellschaft|AG]]" just means that it is a publicly listed company, and shouldn't be part of the article's name --[[User:Axt|Axt]] ([[User talk:Axt|talk]]) 10:45, 3 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Every Second Counts (game show)]] → [[:Every Second Counts (UK game show)]]''' —(''[[Talk:Every Second Counts (game show)#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— To remove confusion arising from current disambiguation arrangements, there being another page [[Every Second Counts (US game show)]]. Should be uncontroversial, but just in case there is some other reason for the current arrangment. --[[User:Neonumbers|Neonumbers]] ([[User talk:Neonumbers|talk]]) 09:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Twin Tower (disambiguation)]] → [[:Twin Towers]]''' —(''[[Talk:Twin Tower (disambiguation)#Proposed split, move, reorganization|Discuss]]'')— Moving disambiguation page back to main title per [[WP:DAB]]. --[[User:Trystan|Trystan]] ([[User talk:Trystan|talk]]) 06:03, 3 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[Meleke]]''' → '''[[Jerusalem stone]]''' - (''[[Talk:Meleke#Re-Name.2C_move_to_Jerusalem_stone|Discuss]]'') - This page name was changed to an Arabic name. '''Jerusalem stone''' is the common English name and in accordance with Wikipedia policy on common names for commonly discussed stones. See: [[Manhattan schist]], [[Puddingstone]] and [[Indiana Limestone]]. '''Jerusalem stone''' is the name used in tens of thousands of books and articles. Mekele is a foreign word scarcely used in English.[[User:Elan26|Elan26]] ([[User talk:Elan26|talk]]) 18:41, 2 September 2008 (UTC)Elan26 |
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*'''[[:Fictional film]] → [[:Fiction film]]''' —(''[[Talk:Fictional film#Requested move|Discuss]]'')—As seen at [[Talk:Fictional film/Archive 1|the archive]], a long and rancorous debate closed with no consensus. The main objection IMHO was that the literature uses the term "fictional film" to mean "a film that is a work of fiction" and that the OED apparently doesn't list "fiction" as having use as an adjective. However, as the main objector himself acknowledged, both the terms "fiction film" and "fictional film" are used in the literature, including my the co-author of the book to which he pointed as definitive. That the OED does or doesn't note contemporary usage of the word "fiction" is not relevant, as [[WP:SENSE|common sense]] tells us that the word is used as an adjective in ordinary English usage. "Fictional" used to mean "contained within a work of fiction" is in widespread if not overwhelming usage across Wikipedia, with no fewer than [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Category%3AFictional&fulltext=Search 5,526 results]in category names alone. Of particular note is [[:Category:Fictional films]], which collects articles on films that exist only within other works of fiction. By contrast, the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Category%3AFiction&fulltext=Search Category:Fiction structure] (including [[:Category:Fiction books]], a usage of which the objector claimed never to have heard before) deals with works of fiction. Clearly, maintaining this article at its current title is in conflict with a number of usage conventions within Wikipedia. Moving it resolves the ambiguity, allows for the creation of an article about fictional films should someone care to write one and brings the article in line with how things are done throughout the project. --[[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 18:07, 2 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Joseon Dynasty]] → [[:Joseon]]''' —(''[[Talk:Joseon Dynasty#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Analogously to [[Goryeo]], because the usage of the term "Joseon" throughout is confusing with a title like "Joseon Dynasty" (to English speakers), and Joseon redirects here. --[[User:Srnec|Srnec]] ([[User talk:Srnec|talk]]) 22:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Rudolph I of Germany]] → [[:Rudolph of Habsburg]]''' —(''[[Talk:Rudolph I of Germany#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— "Like [[Philip of Swabia]], we should call the "Kings of the Romans" what most historians actually call them." –[[User:Pmanderson]], --[[User:Srnec|Srnec]] ([[User talk:Srnec|talk]]) 05:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC) |
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**I am listing this move on behalf of the quoted user, since it was formally proposed at the talk page but not listed here. [[User:Srnec|Srnec]] ([[User talk:Srnec|talk]]) 05:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC) |
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* '''[[:7.62 Tkiv 85]] → {{noredirect|7.62 TKIV 85}}''' —(''[[Talk:7.62 Tkiv 85#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— The Finnish Defence Forces use the 7.62 TKIV 85 nomenclature for this rifle. — [[User:Francis Flinch|Francis Flinch]] ([[User talk:Francis Flinch|talk]]) 17:52, 1 September 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:St Pancras railway station]] → ?''' —(''[[Talk:St Pancras railway station#Formal RM reference|Discuss]]'')— I think the time has come to seek external input on whether the name of this station should include "London" and/or "International" —[[User:Tevildo|Tevildo]] ([[User talk:Tevildo|talk]]) 19:34, 31 August 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Bachelor of Computer Science]] → [[:Bachelor of Science in Computer Science]]''' —(''[[Talk:Bachelor of Computer Science#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Wikipedia article naming policy is to use the most well-known name, and the most well-known name according to Google is the proposed new title. --[[User:NerdyNSK|NerdyNSK]] ([[User talk:NerdyNSK|talk]]) 14:24, 31 August 2008 (UTC) |
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* '''[[:Drukpa]] → {{noredirect|Drukpa Kagyu}}''' — (''[[Talk:Drukpa#Requested Move|Discuss]]'')- The most common use of the word Drukpa is for "the People of Bhutan" a "Bhutanese person" or "Bhutanese" whereas the religious school is properly called "Drukpa Kagyu" in all academic sources and in most sources in Tibetan and Dzongkha languages. [[User:CFynn|Chris Fynn]] ([[User talk:CFynn|talk]]) 21:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Thomas A. Dorsey |
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Thomas Andrew Dorsey (July 1, 1899, Villa Rica, Georgia - January 23, 1993, Chicago), is known as "the father of gospel music". Earlier in his life he was a leading blues pianist known as Georgia Tom.
As formulated by Dorsey, gospel music combines Christian praise with the rhythms of jazz and the blues. His conception also deviates from what had been, to that time, standard hymnal practice by referring explicitly to the self, and the self's relation to faith and God, rather than the individual subsumed into the group via belief.
Dorsey was the music director at Pilgrim Baptist Church in Chicago from 1932 until the late 1970s. His best known composition, "Take My Hand, Precious Lord", was performed by Mahalia Jackson and was a favorite of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr, and "Peace in the Valley", which was a hit for Red Foley in 1951 and has been performed by dozens of other artists, including Elvis Presley and Johnny Cash.
In 2002, the Library of Congress honored his album Precious Lord: New Recordings of the Great Songs of Thomas A. Dorsey (1973), by adding it to the United States National Recording Registry.
Life and career
Dorsey's father was a minister and his mother a piano teacher. He learned to play blues piano as a young man. After studying music formally in Chicago, he became an agent for Paramount Records. He put together a band for Ma Rainey called the "Wild Cats Jazz Band" in 1924.
He started out playing at rent parties with the names Barrelhouse Tom and Texas Tommy, but he was most famous as Georgia Tom. As Georgia Tom, he teamed up with Tampa Red (Hudson Whittaker) with whom he recorded the raunchy 1928 hit record "Tight Like That", a sensation, selling seven million copies. In all, he is credited with more than 400 blues and jazz songs.
Personal tragedy led Dorsey to leave secular music behind and began writing and recording what he called "gospel" music. He was the first to use that term. His first wife, Nettie, who had been Rainey's wardrobe mistress, died in childbirth in 1932 along with his first son. In his grief, he wrote his most famous song, one of the most famous of all gospel songs, "Take My Hand, Precious Lord".
Unhappy with the treatment received at the hands of established publishers, Dorsey opened the first black gospel music publishing company, Dorsey House of Music. He also founded his own gospel choir and was a founder and first president of the National Convention of Gospel Choirs and Choruses.
His influence was not limited to African American music, as white musicians also followed his lead. "Precious Lord" has been recorded by Elvis Presley, Mahalia Jackson, Aretha Franklin, Clara Ward, Roy Rogers, and Tennessee Ernie Ford, among hundreds of others. It was a favorite gospel song of the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and was sung at the rally the night before his assassination, and at his funeral by Mahalia Jackson, per his request. It was also a favorite of President Lyndon B. Johnson, who requested it to be sung at his funeral. Dorsey was also a great influence on other Chicago based gospel artists such as "Queen of Gospel" Albertina Walker and The Caravans.
Dorsey wrote "Peace in the Valley" for Mahalia Jackson in 1937, which also became a gospel standard. He was the first African American elected to the Nashville Songwriters Hall of Fame and also the first in the Gospel Music Association's Living Hall of Fame. He was inducted into the Gennett Records Walk of Fame in 2007. His papers are preserved at Fisk University, along with those of W.C. Handy, George Gershwin, and the Fisk Jubilee Singers.
The works of Thomas A. Dorsey have proliferated beyond performance, into the hymnals of virtually all American churches and of English-speaking churches worldwide.
Thomas was a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Incorporated.
He died in Chicago, Illinois and was interred there in the Oak Woods Cemetery.
In 2007, he was inducted as a charter member of the Gennett Records Walk of Fame in Richmond, Indiana.
References
- Michael W. Harris, The Rise of Gospel Blues: The Music of Thomas Andrew Dorsey in the Urban Church Oxford University Press, 1992, ISBN 0195063767.
- Tony Heilbut, The Gospel Sound: Good News and Bad Times Limelight Editions, 1997, ISBN 0-87910-034-6.
- Horace Clarence Boyer, How Sweet the Sound: The Golden Age of Gospel Elliott and Clark, 1995, ISBN 0-252-06877-7.
- Bernice Johnson Reagon, We'll Understand It Better By And By: Pioneering African-American Gospel Composers Smithsonian Institution, 1992, ISBN 1-56098-166-0.
External links
- Biography by the Chicago Historical Society, includes musical links
- Biography from the Southern Music Network
- "The Father of the Chicago Gospel Singing Movement", including MP3 links.
- "Georgia Tom" Dorsey in Georgia (the New Georgia Encyclopedia)