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*huggles* -- Gurch (talk) 11:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

\o/ *snuggles* Jennavecia ^(Talk) 11:59, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Am I the only one that now pictures 2 cats going at it whenever I see "huggles" anywhere? Thanks bunches, Iridescent. Your legacy is intact....Keeper ǀ 76 16:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey, do0d. Don't knock how I huggle! XD Jennavecia ^(Talk) 16:39, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't have to be cats. – iridescent 16:53, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

That's very true. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:09, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Sweet jesus. Keeper ǀ 76 17:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

See what you'll be missing? – iridescent 17:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

(BTW, I wonder what this guy would make of your talkpage right now?) – iridescent 17:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Heh, is he serious? Or should I say, is he fucking serious? It makes me want to go post George Carlins "7 words" on his talkpage. I won't though, promise. Keeper ǀ 76 18:43, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm guessing ("hoping" is probably a better word, as the idea that it's deliberate takes WP:ASS to a whole new level) that it's some kind of automatic de-pornification bot that's run haywire. What initially brought him to my attention was his "improvement" to Paul Newman, in cleaning up the dreadful filth that was ***** Cassidy and **** Barbour. – iridescent 18:48, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

There will be no depornification of my talk page, damnit! Back the hell off. Anyone fucking with the profanic (that's not a word) flow of my talk page will incur the full force of my bitchy wrath! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 19:37, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Quite right too. ~~(General note: Don't click that link at work. Srsly.)~~ – iridescent 19:52, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Iri, I know we're cool... growing friendship and all that... so keep that in mind when I tell you, with the best possible intentions and with all due respect: Don't post nassy Shankbone shit on my talk page. Srsly. He finds it necessary to upload gay porn to Wikipedia, that's whatev, but I neither endorse it nor find it photographically impressive. I also have no support for ED biographers. They're bottom-feeders. Much like trolls, don't feed them and they die. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 06:17, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Fixed. – iridescent 14:31, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, see... now that is just damn cute! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:18, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Puppies! Bawwwwww. GlassCobra 19:58, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, how's this for uber-cuteness? XD --Dave1185 (talk) 21:00, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The cuteness is ridiculous! But those Baloos are staged! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 18:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Most Viewed On YouTube

He recreated it, and his sock puppets need burning too. — Realist² 16:56, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem, it's probably best someone keeps an eye on this guy. His life on wiki it ticking against the clock, as soon as the checkuser comes back and confirms what we already know. He might try one last stint of madness before the inevitable. — Realist² 17:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

Honest question looking for an honest answer

I'm beginning to feel like I'm ploughing a lonely furrow with the GA Sweeps Reviews. Do you think I'm wasting my time with them? --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 23:28, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

I would think not. I haven't checked in, and I really should get off my ass and help. I got the damn thing going then dropped out of the project. >_> Perhaps there is a need to renew interest in the process... but, hey, if you're getting burned out, take a break from it; because it's seriously bad times to be so burned out on article reviewing that you don't even want to read articles at all. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 04:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Nothing like getting burned out, I quite enjoy looking through articles I wouldn't normally have come across. It's just that I was starting to feel a bit lonely in there, and was wondering if there was something I hadn't been told. :-) --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 16:00, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, no, Malleus. You just happen to be the most dedicated at the moment. You're doing a great job... you're just surrounded by slackers... including me! XD But yea, it's a daunting process, and I'm not bashing anyone's participation level. I'm working on a GA now, then plan to take it to FA, but I'll try to get in some reviews so you don't feel so lonely. :) Jennavecia ^(Talk) 16:38, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Inaccuarate Ill-conceived

The result was: Ill-conceived. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 04:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sigh. There was nothing in my proposal that was not well thought-out. It was just a review and a suggestion. It made perfect sense. He imposed his own length. Without prior knowledge of undisclosed e-mails between Steve and Arb Com there was no ban length, just the suggestion of a break being preferred. His WB enforcer was removed so he could edit his talk page and request a review be looked into. There was no one, that I recall, stating that a year was not long enough. Likewise, there was no one saying that a full year was needed, let alone that Arb Com had specified a one year length. A js break set by the individual is not the same as a ban, and he wasn't blocked until recently. That's Arb Com's fault. If they made this crystal clear, then there would not be so many holes in the final decision. And even fewer admins obfuscating it. Synergy 18:16, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Than ban agreement between Steve and ArbCom was six months. He knew this. The fact that he cut such a deal and went on an enforced break is the whole reason discussion ended on the matter of community banning. So to say there's no block or ban imposed on him is just utterly silly. Your request was clearly ill-conceived. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 19:34, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Because Steve knew something I didn't does not make the request ill-conceived. There was no formal mention of a length of time for the break before the request. A ban was never announced, nor implemented publicly. Get your facts right. Synergy 20:05, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps if you had gotten your facts right before making such a pointless and ill-conceived request, a lot of time and energy would have been spent on more important things. Steve knew. You made the request on behalf of Steve. Good job on the research. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 05:42, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry Synergy, what Steve did was bad. Dropping dox is major bad plans, in any situation and the length of "ban" was discussed with ArbCom. I'm with Lara on this one... ChaoticReality 05:55, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

(To Lara) That still doesn't make it ill-conceived. I'm not privy to correspondences between arb com and Steve. So tapping into a database of facts along those lines is beyond my (and for that matter, anyone not informed by the committee) reach. Basing it solely on the assumption that I could ascertain the info, is a serious lax in common sense. Synergy 00:20, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Could you please translate that into normal human speak for me, please? I'm not fluent in whatever bureaucratic Wiki-Lawyering gobbledygook you're speaking. Steve's on a 6 month ban according to every member of ArbCom...what more is there to discuss? Unless Jimbo decides otherwise, I'd say this discussion is over. Maybe we can, y'know, redirect some of this dramah into improving the encylopedia? Never mind...I realize that's too much to ask. Bullzeye^{(Ring for Service)} 00:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Synergy, considering your ill-conceived request was made on behalf of Steve, it might have been wise (and by "might", I mean "would") to have discussed the matter with Steve first. Such as a "Hey, Steve, I don't think it was a big deal that you made 800+ unapproved admin edits on an admin account of another user whose password you managed to obtain, and I don't think it's a big deal that you badgered a password from another admin. I mean, dude, it's all chill. Nothing wrong done here. Oh, and giving out Lara's daughter's name like Halloween candy... ah, that was boss! Totally lawled at that, nothing wrong there. You should so be unbanned, I mean, there's nothing on-wiki about you being community blocked or nothin', yo." And then, dear Synergy, Steve would have been like, "Do0d, I guess you fell asleep that night, but I totally cut a deal with the AC. I'm on a six month enforced break. That's why there's no discussion about a community block or ban. They let this be it." And then, Syn, you wouldn't have wasted the community's time with this ill-conceived request. Do I really have to keep repeating myself for you? Jennavecia ^(Talk) 04:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Thanks

Thanks for owning my userpage! Was very kind of you :) Ryan has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

\o/ You're welcome! :) Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:41, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

2002 FIFA World Cup

Hey, thanks for helping to deal with the anonymous Israeli. Much appreciated. – Pee Jay 21:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 21:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I want to have your babies!

Hello! I'm a huge fan. How do I message you? :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.128.20.43 (talk) 21:37, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Not via Wikipedia, anyway. – iridescent 21:47, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hahaha, I customized the title. XD Thanks, Iri. <3 Jennavecia ^(Talk) 21:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protection first?

Seems like most of the vandalism on Proposed bailout of United States financial system is coming from IPs. Can we try semi-protection first? Ronnotel (talk) 21:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Ah... I used Huggle. Didn't realize it was full protection. First day... don't block me! XD Yea, semi is what I was shooting for. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 21:47, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Wait: 17:35, September 29, 2008 Jennavecia (Talk | contribs | block) protected Proposed bailout of United States financial system (2008) [edit=autoconfirmed] (expires 21:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)) [move=autoconfirmed] (expires 21:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)) ‎ (Excessive vandalism) (hist) (Change)

That is semi-protection. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 21:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, coulda swore it said admin,admin when I saw it. I suck :( Ronnotel (talk) 00:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Why are you semi protecting a redlink? Keeper ǀ 76 21:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Because that's how I roll! Don't question tha masta! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 21:57, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Dammit. I found the "real" link, and then edit conflicted here. Serves me right for posting prior to research. Heaven forbid anyone on wiki posts before thinking. We can't have that, now can we? Keeper ǀ 76 22:01, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

So I made you edit conflict? Oh, good... in that case, I WIN! :D Jennavecia ^(Talk) 22:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

As always, you made me edit conflict my brains out. Heh. </creepy> :-) Keeper ǀ 76 22:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

←You seemed the last one I'd imagine joining Gurch's Legion. Careful with Huggle at the moment as it's very unstable (hence this header on all the related pages) and will do a lot of things you don't expect. – iridescent 22:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Lara, what did I say on IRC about you pressing the wrong button on your first day? XD —— RyanLupin • (talk) 22:26, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

..."and will do a lot of things you don't expect." For example, [1] J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 22:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Hahah, Keeper, you're a trip. My talk page is so much more fun now that Iridescent has come with her partners in crime and groupies! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 01:55, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I've had your page watchlisted for a while, but I couldn't work up the courage to post here until at least 3 of my friends posted in a thread that actually concerned something that I understand. And even then, my first post was greatly self-depreciating so that you would know that I am not trying to infringe on your awesomeness. After all, you are a great legend among admins, and I am merely a pesky n00b admin with only 2 months of sysophood behind me. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 03:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Can anyone think of a way I can squeeze out a FUR for that image? J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 03:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You power up one whole level if you accomplish that task. That said, what is this shit about me being a legend? Obvious lulz in that comment aside, I'm not dead! XD Jennavecia ^(Talk) 03:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Since when do you have to be dead to be a legend? J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 04:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I know you did not just link Legend to Jimbo Wales. Is the same group that considers me a legend of the mind that Jimbo is one as well? If so, that explains a lot. >_>

You forgot a VERY important name. Think hard about this. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 04:35, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

*coughs*Ryan?*coughs* —— RyanLupin • (talk) 05:52, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hahaa, haha... uhm, I mean... <_< Uh, someone famous. :D Jennavecia ^(Talk) 13:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

But I've been in three British soaps! I have an IMDb profile...I WANTS WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE NAO PLZ! —— RyanLupin • (talk) 16:15, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

{{fact}} Jennavecia ^(Talk) 16:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Query: Username

Helllooo Jennavecia!

I have a question for an administrator type:

I have been doing some vandalism fighting/guidance on the article George S. Parker High School. I thought things were OK, and today I arrive to find that there is a new editor at work on the article: User:LonelyBacon. I could care less, but this account has been into vandalism, and given that, I would rather not have them doing that.

So, the question is: does this constitute enough of a violation of WP:USERNAME to file a report, or am I just crazy. The policy did not appear clear enough to me, so I thought I would ask first.

Any help would be appreciated. I will keep an eye on this page; no need to go anywhere else. Thanks! LonelyBeacon (talk) 22:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

User has been blocked —— RyanLupin • (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Ryan. You rock! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 01:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Protection (or, how you suck as an admin (just kidding))

Seriously kidding, I'm in a goofy mood. Anyway, you slapped a 1-day protection on Proposed bailout of United States financial system (2008); however, given that it failed it'll probably be getting a lot of attention. I was just wondering if you'd be ok with a suggestion (and this is one of the only times I think I'll ask for this) for me to extend the protection to, say, a month. Whatcha think?

P.S. I would've done this on IRC but apparently you just evaded me.

Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 22:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

I saw you coming, so I snuck out. >_>

Do whatever you like. I think a month may be a bit extreme, but it's up to you, buddy. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 01:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I threw on a 2 week protection (Or was it 1 week... uh...) Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 04:57, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Haha, that works. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 05:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Non-existent username apology

In late 2007 (last year), I went for a non-existent username, but now I have registered. I have also told ArielGold. -Porchcrop ^{(talk|contributions)} 02:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Uhm. Okay. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 03:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Oops

Damn huggle! --Closedmouth (talk) 02:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Haha, yea. I didn't know what happened. I saw it as blanked by creator, deleted it, then it popped back up with a csd-7 tag, so I deleted it again, ahaha. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 03:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

[pounds on keyboard] Dammit! Work, you bastard! J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 04:30, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

dear jennavecia i know what i did to hats and germany was wrong but what did i do to september we are studing the romans in school and i wrote what i lurand in school down it was right and true. my appolage for the tone of this letter i don't know if this the right to posted this i did not know where too . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carterk7 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Most likely had to do with spelling errors. If spelling is not your strong suit, Firefox browser should alert you to any edits that many have potential problems. Take care. ^{XF Law}_{talk at me} 06:59, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Yea. The spelling, grammar and punctuation were off. It was also unsourced information, which we refer to as original research. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 12:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Halp.

I was showing a friend about Wikipedia. We worked on Lucky D's, as an article. I was trying to show him WPV and WPN, but in the mean time, it sort of was killed. Lucky D's is notable for being a bar as well as a hostel in North America. I leavened my lesson, but I'm trying to teach him how to be a good editor, and he's had an account longer than me. Can you (if you have time) help us make the article better? There is a good chance that the bar/hostel merits some amount of notariaty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by XF Law (talk • contribs) 12:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so I've recreated the article for you at User:XF Law/Lucky D's. I'll help where I can. I happen to know someone who lives in San Diego, so perhaps he can give me some info, maybe even a freely licensed image. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 12:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I did not certainly create it. Can you put it in my buddies page? I don't need it. ^{XF Law}_{talk at me} 12:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I moved it to his user space. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 12:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Woot! Go navy! ^{XF Law}_{talk at me} 13:08, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I need greater than 9000 edits for rollback, or I'm getting payled some how... ^{XF Law}_{talk at me} 15:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Haha, uh... I think you need at least 100 edits, but you appear to have hit that already. Looking through your contribs, all looks fine. I'll bestow some rollback upon you. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 15:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

blanked - why?

"My watchlist" page in es:wiki ("Lista de seguimiento") has been deleted by you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Watchlist

Why??

—Cesar Tort 16:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hello.

Same for me.

Euratom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.101.168.188 (talk) 16:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Same for my watchlist: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Especial:Watchlist Apparently you have removed it, how can I recover it againg?--82.158.41.91 (talk) 16:50, 30 September 2008 (UTC) (user: Tito_64 in Spanish wikipedia)

What happened with spanish watchlist?. Alakasam (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

It vanished. Click on the above link. —Cesar Tort 17:02, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You're trying to check your Spanish watchlist on the English Wikipedia. es:Especial:Watchlist still exists. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:01, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Just click on the above link: it says you guys removed the es-wp. Cesar Tort 17:03, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure what's up with this. You're on the English Wikipedia. The link to the Spanish Wikipedia has been linked above by EVula and it works. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I've undeleted the page; it's contentious enough (given the repeated deletions) that we need to do a full RfD on it. The person who created the RfD mistakenly closed the RfD himself; I've reopened it. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:06, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

did you? Jennavecia ^(Talk) 17:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

(e/c) No, the person did not. He nominated it for RFD, XalD tagged it as speedy & Jennavecia deleted it. The nominator simply put the archive tags on the debate as Jennavecia didn't. Jennavecia is the one who closed it by deleting it. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:17, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! My es-wiki watchlist ("lista de seguimiento:") is functioning again. Bug, mistake or whatever, it affected the ES wiki guys. Thanks again. —Cesar Tort 17:20, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys: besides the SPANISH wikipedia it also affected the ENGLISH wikipedia, as you can see here. —Cesar Tort 17:49, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so the Especial watchlist page on the English Wikipedia redirected to the English watchlist page, and by deleting this, I somehow managed to shutdown the watchlists in all languages including English? This makes no sense, but if it is true, I expect a cookie, a barnstar and 3,000 bonus points. Jennavecia ^(Talk) 18:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

You get five thousand points if you delete it again to prove you're right. (FWIW, I don't think it is possible to delete a special page) J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, it was Especial, weren't it. Oh, and I'll give you ten thousand points if you delete that, the main page and block Jimbo. Why not, eh? It's not going to crash the servers now is it :P weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 18:13, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

I want at least 9,000 points for each! Jennavecia ^(Talk) 18:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ok lemme get this straight...you use Huggle for the first time so naturally multiple huggle related topics start popping up on your talkpage, you break the Spanish wikipedia by somehow managing to delete a special page and now the whole of Wikipedia is conveniently screwed. You should totally go and delete the main page just for teh lulz XD —— RyanLupin • (talk) 18:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Ryan: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=delete looks like this. I know, I was sad too. Apparently, Brion and Tim have no sense of humor. J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 18:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

		The Destroyer of the Wiki Barnstar
		For apparently (allegedly) destroying all watchlists in all languages... :) PeterSymonds (talk) 18:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

--Well it can't be proven yet, but here's your barnstar! PeterSymonds (talk) 18:26, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Supreese

		You have been sentenced to the Village Stocks
		For accidentally deleting a vital component of the watchlist. How? God knows. But you did it :P weburiedoursecretsinthegarden 18:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

If you have a moment to spare from destroying all that we know and love...

Do you know if there is any truth to this? The Google does nothing. the skomorokh 18:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)