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Football Task Forces

Hi there! Basically if you find a page related to USA/Canada soccer, you need to put the following code onto the corresponding Talk page... {{Football|USA=yes}} or {{Football|Canada=yes}} . Sometimes they already have the Football tag in curly brackets so you just need to add |USA=yes (or Canada!).

(They actually do the same thing at the moment, just give different flags on the template)

If you want to work on current USA/Canada soccer pages, you can find a list in the links on the Task force page. They are ordered by quality (how much/how well written they are) and importance (how important they are to the coverage of soccer/football in Wikipedia). Let me know if you need any further help. Paulbrock 17:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Esperanto Task Force

Hi, hope I can point you in the right direction - the main thing it looks like you're missing is to change the assessment template (in this case Template:WP conlangs) - check the football one at Template:Football. You need to put in extra code, which will add the Talk page to extra categories if Esperanto is specified. (You'll also need to create the categories).

I never got round to doing a nice tidy "How to Add a Taskforce", but you could take a look at my notes at User:Paulbrock/WP_Football_work/WP_Football_task_force - sorry it's not very clear! I'm not on WP much at the moment, but leave me a message if you need further help. Paulbrock 18:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

{{WP conlangs}} tags

Howdy.

I noticed that you recently made some changes to {{WP conlangs}} tags. You added Esperanto=yes but you removed the importance= or importance=Low (/Med/High/Top). Please don't do this.

Instead, add the Esperanto tag to the end, like so: {{WP conlangs|class=Start|importance=Low|needs-infobox=yes|Esperanto=yes}} - note the | - without removing other tags.

If you specifically INTEND to recategorize something that is already tagged for class or importance - e.g. change something from Low to Med or Start to B - please start a discussion about it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Constructed languages/Assessment#Assessment discussion. But don't just delete tags.

I would appreciate it if you go back and fix the tags you've changed, as it's a bit of a pain to find and change all of someone else's edits.

Thanks! Sai Emrys ¿? 21:02, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Hello again. As you can see below, I've gone through and reworked the ETF assessment stuff you started. It should all work now automagically, huzzah and such. Also {{WP conlangs}} now actually uses importance correctly, tags correctly, tags ETF things properly, etc.
Enjoy. Sai Emrys ¿? 03:49, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on [[Talk:Category:Non-Article Esperanto task force articles|the article's talk page]] explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Sai Emrys ¿? 02:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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WP Football US/Canada

Hi, TFCforever! Has there been any discussion about SatyrBot's tagging the project's articles? I took a quick look around the project's talk page, but didn't see anything. Could you point me in the direction? -- SatyrBot (talk) 01:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, TFCforever, I just made some changes to the anthems infobox (see its talkpage for details). Any comments are welcome. — Kpalion(talk) 12:04, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you like it and I can see you already started to update articles with the new infobox. I made two more changes to the template though: I made the English title optional (no need to list it twice if the native language is English) and I made it possible to include a sound file in the box. You can see how it works in God Save the Queen. — Kpalion(talk) 13:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Move request for Dąbrowski's Mazurka

Hi, since you work a lot on articles about national anthems, you may be interested in that Dąbrowski's Mazurka has been nominated again for a move to either Mazurek Dąbrowskiego or Poland Is Not Yet Lost. You are welcome to state your opinion at Talk:Dąbrowski's Mazurka#Requested move (second time). — Kpalion(talk) 23:45, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

USSR tagging

There appears to be something wrong with the way you are tagging USSR related article talk pages--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♣ 21:54, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just use the templates, so can't offer advice. I thought you were using a bot due to the rapidity with which they were applied, so didn't pay much attention until I had to go to the talk of one. You may wan to talk to someone in bot requests to undo your tags, and get some assist on bot tag applications based on any articles in specific categories--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♣ 22:07, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

template might be fixed

The template is a little long and a little ugly (codewise) so I'm not positive everything is kosher, but I've fixed the obvious broken parts. Basically there are <noinclude> and </noinclude> tags that specify that the stuff in between them is not included when you use the {{template}} with the braces. The importance and class code was pasted strangely, splitting those tags in a broken way. I've fixed the noincludes on your sandbox, and used its talk page as a sample of the template usage (obviously it has too many categories on it right now, and user pages shouldn't have any categories at all, but I assume you'll blank everything once you are good). There are probably some categories that need creating, etc. but hopefully this will get you going again. JackSchmidt (talk) 01:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. You can see my changes amounted to almost nothing; I just moved a few noinclude tags. JackSchmidt (talk) 02:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject tag removal

Please do not remove the WikiProject tags from other projects. While WP:USSR may not care to track dab pages, but others do. Thanks, Kralizec! (talk) 15:58, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, and thanks for the speedy reply! I already fixed the pages in question. Just so you know the next time you see it, if a WikiProject assessment has something in the class criteria other than the usual types of stub, start, A, etc. then you know that project is tracking this specific type of page. For example, on the Talk:Soviet aircraft carrier Kiev (disambiguation) page, WP:SHIPS tracks disambiguation pages as class = Disambig while WP:MILHIST tracks it as class = DAB. As a member of WikiProject Ships, I can tell you that we track thirteen different types of pages! --Kralizec! (talk) 16:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

USSR tagging

Latvia is a sovereign state, and not part of Russia or USSR. You have been tagging suburbs of Riga - I'd say these don't fall into the USSr project. On the other hand, these clearly do: Embute‎, Vainode‎, Skrunda‎. Artlondon (talk) 16:15, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have been systematically tagging all articles under Category:Soviet Union for the WP:USSR. That said, there is a category in Category:Soviet architecture (which itself is in Category:Soviet art, which is in Category:Soviet culture, which is in the main category) entitled Category:City districts and microdistricts of the Soviet Union. This is the category with the articles concerning neighborhoods of Riga. I know that Latvia is now a sovereign state, but it was a constituent republic of the Soviet Union until 1991, which explains why these articles are in this category. You do raise a good point, however, about the necessity of such a category. Unless all these districts were established during the Soviet period, I see no reason why to keep the category. Please let me know if you would like me to delete this category.

TFCforever (talk) 16:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just tried to also remove that category - you beat me too it ;). It has no use. The former military sites I mentioned earlier would fit the soviet project. Artlondon (talk) 17:01, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Artlondon, I have another related question for you. There exists another similar category, Category:Cities and towns built in the Soviet Union, that I have already processed and tagged in its entirety. Although the USSR no longer exists, this category is only about those cities and towns that were built during the Soviet period, and I don't think that it is misleading because its title is more appropriate for a former entity than a current one. Would it be okay with you if I left all the articles within that category tagged with WP:USSR templates because there is some logical connection to the Soviet Union in this case? Thanks for your time. Also, I am currently adding your suggested articles to the project. TFCforever (talk) 17:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Category:Cities and towns built in the Soviet Union makes more sense. If you have already done it, prob best to leave it. I imagine it might vary per city to the extent the USSR founded/developed the settlement. I imagine if the project isn't suitable for certain cites, other people will spot it. It's quite a sensitive issue; especially in countries were certain generations considered the Soviets as occupiers, such as Latvia. In the case of cites, where people currently live, they might not want to be considered soviet. Artlondon (talk) 17:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. I have one last suggestion to make; if somebody removes the WP:USSR tag from the talk page of any article, it would be extremely helpful if they could also remove the category tag from the article itself. Typically, the category that is drawing our attention has either "Soviet Union" or "Soviet" in it, but it may be a little harder to spot, such as Category:Red Western or Category:Stalinist architecture. If they can remove the USSR-related category tag, it will save us a lot of trouble, but it will also help you and any other Wikipedians who are are working on articles of post-Soviet states because it will keep us from bothering you again. If you could keep this in mind and maybe pass it along to anyone you might be working with, that would be great. Thanks! TFCforever (talk) 17:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They are all good points. Objectivity, articles relating to architecture etc should cause problems and, generally, would appear suitable tot part of the USSR project. I hadn't realised the USSr categories, and will use these for articles like military bases, buildings etc.. Artlondon (talk) 17:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At first I'd like to hear the reason why the tag was put there. The same user that put the tag, put the same tag on other places and did remove them rather quick. I did remove the tag following those edits, who were apologizing for trouble caused. Best regards.--Lokyz (talk) 23:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The tag was placed there, very simply, because I have been conducting a systematic tagging of all articles within Category:Soviet Union, and Category:Soviet singers is within it, as its name implies. I checked the article before tagging it and noticed that it mentioned that Noreika was active in the late 1950s and 1960s in Lithuania, at which time was the Lithuanian Soviet Socialist Republic (which existed from 1940-1990). Knowing that the Lithuanian SSR was a constituent republic of the Soviet Union, I made the assumption that Noreika, due to his fame in Lithuania during the Soviet period, was within the scope of WP:USSR. I realize that anything to do with the USSR is a sensitive issue to Lithuania and its people due to the nature of its annexation by the Soviet Union during World War II, but by my judgment, I thought that it was an article that was reasonably related to the USSR and merited being included within the WikiProject. I apologize for any difficulties I have caused as a consequence of poor judgment, and please do straighten me out if you believe I am wrong in what I say. I don't want any ill will, and I want to make sure situations like this can be resolved in the future without lengthy dialog. Thanks for your time and best wishes. TFCforever (talk) 00:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I also did not intend to cause problems. Just, well some legal issues apply, and I'm thankfull thet those were resolved without any further conflict. Thank you.--Lokyz (talk) 00:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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