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| Name = No Stranger to Shame |
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| align="center" valign="center" | <big>'''Welcome to Jeff79's User Page!'''</big><br />Please leave me a message on my [[User talk:Jeff79|talk page]]! |
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| Type = [[Album]] |
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| Artist = [[Uncle Kracker]] |
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| Cover = No Stranger to Shame.jpg |
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| Released = [[August 27]], [[2002]] |
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|}'''Jeffrey Robert Smith''' [[BCom]]. - [[BBus]]. (born on the 24th of [[1979#March|March, 1979]], in [[Brisbane]], [[Queensland]]) is a travelling [[English language|English]] teacher currently residing in [[Seoul]], [[South Korea]]. He is possibly the biggest fan of the [[Brisbane Broncos]] in the world. Also an avid [[cricket]] follower, Jeff wastes countless hours at work creating and improving mostly articles related to [[rugby league]] (in his words: "quite obviously the greatest sport ever invented") as well as various other topics. |
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| Recorded = 2001-2002 |
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| Genre = [[Rock and roll|Rock]] |
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| Length = 50:10 |
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| Label = [[Lava Records]] |
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| style="width: 44px; height: 45px; background: #FFB3B3; text-align: center; font-size: 14pt" | '''’s''' |
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| Producer = [[Uncle Kracker]] |
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| Reviews = *[[Allmusic]] {{Rating|4|5}} [http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:4267gjir46iv~T1 link] |
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| Last album = ''[[Double Wide (Uncle Kracker album)|Double Wide]]''<br />(2000) |
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| This album = '''''No Stranger to Shame'''''<br />(2002) |
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| Next album = ''[[Seventy Two and Sunny]]''<br />(2004) |
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==Some articles created by me== |
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'''''No Stranger to Shame''''' is the follow-up album to [[Uncle Kracker]]'s double-platinum ''[[Double Wide (Uncle Kracker album)|Double Wide]]''. |
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===Rugby league players=== |
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==Track listing== |
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#"Keep It Comin'" – 3:21 |
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#"Thunderhead Hawkins" – 3:47 |
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#"In a Little While" – 4:09 |
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#"I Wish I Had a Dollar" – 4:03 |
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#"[[Drift Away]]" – 4:15 |
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#"Baby Don't Cry" – 4:27 |
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#"I Do" – 3:11 |
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#"Memphis Soul Song" – 3:57 |
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#"I Don't Know" – 3:57 |
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#"To Think I Used to Love You" – 3:28 |
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#"Letter to My Daughters" – 3:08 |
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#"No Stranger to Shame" – 8:27 |
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==Notes and Trivia== |
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*A song entitled ''After School Special'' begins at the 4:41 mark of the last track on the explicit version of the album. |
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====Internationals==== |
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*Since the song "No Stranger to Shame" ends at the 3:40 mark and "After School Special" starts at the 4:41 second mark, there is an entire 1:01 of silence. |
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[[Sam Backo]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Dave Bolton]] {{flagicon|GBR}} • [[Kerry Boustead]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Les Boyd]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Mick Burke]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Mark Carroll (rugby league)|Mark Carroll]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Jim Challinor]] {{flagicon|GBR}} • [[Douglas Clark (rugby league)|Douglas Clark]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Chris Close]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Pat Devery]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Jean Dop]] {{flagicon|FRA}} • [[Paul Dunn (rugby league)|Paul Dunn]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Joe Egan (rugby league)|Joe Egan]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Alf Ellaby]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[George Fairbairn (rugby league)|George Fairbairn]] {{flagicon|Scotland}} • [[Frank Farrell (rugby league)|Frank Farrell]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Denis Flannery]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[David Furner]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Jean Galia]] {{flagicon|France}} • [[Russel Gartner]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Andrew Gee]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Ken Gee]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Geoff Gerard]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Sid Goodwin]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Mark Graham (rugby league)|Mark Graham]] {{flagicon|NZL}} • [[Paul Green (rugby league)|Paul Green]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Fred Griffiths]] {{flagicon|RSA}} • [[Duncan Hall]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Bill Hamilton]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Michael Hancock (rugby league)|Michael Hancock]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Paul Hauff]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Gerry Helme]] {{flagicon|Great Britain}} • [[Ray Higgs]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Martin Hodgson]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Dick Huddart]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Craig Innes]] {{flagicon|NZL}} • [[Peter Jackson (rugby league)|Peter Jackson]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Chris Johns (rugby league)|Chris Johns]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Fred Jones (rugby league)|Fred Jones]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Bob Lindner]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Steve Llewellyn]] {{flagicon|WAL}} • [[James Lomas (rugby league)|James Lomas]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Bob Lulham]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Cliff Lyons]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[John McDonald (rugby league)|John MacDonald]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Ken Maddison]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Ken McCaffery]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Alan McIndoe]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Jim Mills (rugby league)|Jim Mills]] {{flagicon|WAL}} • [[Billy Moore (rugby league)|Billy Moore]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Brian Moore (rugby league)|Brian Moore]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Frank Myler]] {{flagicon|Great Britain}} • [[Noa Nadruku]] {{flagicon|Fiji}} • [[Herb Narvo]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Steve Nash (rugby league)|Steve Nash]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[George Nicholls (rugby league)|George Nicholls]] {{Flagicon|ENG}} • [[Bill Noble]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Julian O'Neill]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Bob O'Reilly]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Jonty Parkin]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[George Piggins]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Geoff Pimblett]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Edward Root]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Max Rousié]] {{flagicon|FRA}} • [[Tommy Ryan (rugby league)|Tommy Ryan]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Don Schofield]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Charlie Seeling]] {{flagicon|NZL}} • [[Mick Sullivan]] {{flagicon|ENG}} • [[Duncan Thompson]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Brent Todd]] {{flagicon|NZL}} • [[Maurice Voron]] {{flagicon|FRA}} • [[Kerrod Walters]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Steve Walters]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Harry Wells (rugby league)|Harry Wells]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Graeme West]] {{flagicon|NZL}} • [[Des White]] {{flagicon|NZL}} • [[Jack Wilkinson (rugby league)|Jack Wilkinson]] {{flagicon|GBR}} • [[Lionel Williamson]] {{flagicon|AUS}} • [[Graham Wilson]] {{flagicon|AUS}} |
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*"Keep It Comin'" was used in the video games [[Project Gotham Racing]] and [[Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2]], and for commercials for [[Six Flags theme parks]]. |
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====Interstate==== |
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*[[Mark McGrath]] of [[Sugar Ray]] provided background vocals on the title track. |
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[[Geoff Bell (rugby league)|Geoff Bell]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Charles Cahill (rugby league)|Charles Cahill]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Cyril Connell, Snr.]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Herb Gilbert, Jnr.]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Noel Goldthorpe]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Robin Gourley]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Cavill Heugh]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Joe Kilroy]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Tom Kirk]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Martin Lang]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Terry Matterson]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Fonda Metassa]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Des Morris]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} [[Clinton O'Brien]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Matthew Ryan (rugby league)|Matthew Ryan]] {{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Peter Ryan (rugby league)|Peter Ryan]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Neville Smith (rugby league)|Neville Smith]] {{flagicon|Queensland}}/{{flagicon|New South Wales}} • [[Neil Tierney]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} • [[Darryl van der Velde]] {{flagicon|Queensland}} |
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====Club==== |
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*"Thunderhead Hawkins" refers to an alter-ego of country music singer [[Hank Williams, Jr.]] The song is about him. |
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[[Allan Agar]] • [[Graham Appo]] • [[Ken Arthurson]] • [[Eric Bennett]] • [[Bill Buckley (rugby league)|Bill Buckley]] • [[John Carlaw]] • [[Craig Coleman]] • [[John Dixon (rugby league)|John Dixon]] • [[Albert Goldthorpe]] • [[Norm Jacobson]] • [[Bill Keato]] • [[Jack Lindwall]] • [[Steve Linnane]] • [[Tom Mooney (rugby league)|Tom Mooney]] • [[Manfred Moore]] • [[Ben Walker]] • [[Shane Walker]] • [[Colin van der Voort]] |
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===Rugby League Competitions=== |
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*A remix of "To Think I Used to Love You" is featured on the CD soundtrack to the film [[Sweet Home Alabama (film)|Sweet Home Alabama]]. |
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====Australasia==== |
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*"Drift Away" features a sample of [[Dobie Gray]]'s version. |
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[[Super League (Australia) season 1997]] • [[ARL season 1996]] • [[ARL season 1995]] • [[NSWRL season 1994]] • [[NSWRL season 1993]] • [[NSWRL season 1992]] • [[NSWRL season 1988]] • [[NSWRFL season 1983]] • [[NSWRFL season 1982]] • [[NSWRFL season 1929]] |
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====Europe==== |
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[[Category:Uncle Kracker albums]] |
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[[Category:2002 albums]] |
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=====Super League===== |
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[[Super League IX]] • [[Super League VIII]] • [[Super League VII]] • [[Super League V]] • [[Super League IV]] • [[Super League III]] • [[Super League II]] |
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=====Rugby Football League===== |
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[[1995-96 Rugby Football League season]] • [[1994-95 Rugby Football League season]] • [[1993-94 Rugby Football League season]] • [[1992-93 Rugby Football League season]] •[[1984-85 Rugby Football League season]] • [[1972-73 Northern Rugby Football League season]] • [[1959-60 Northern Rugby Football League season]] • [[1953-54 Northern Rugby Football League season]] • [[1896-97 Northern Rugby Football Union season]] • [[1895-96 Northern Rugby Football Union season]] |
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====International==== |
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[[2008 World Club Challenge]] • [[2007 World Club Challenge]] • [[2005 World Club Challenge]] • [[1994 World Club Challenge]] • [[1992 World Club Challenge]] • [[1991 World Club Challenge]] • [[1989 World Club Challenge]] • [[1987 World Club Challenge]] |
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===Others=== |
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*[[Harry Sunderland]] |
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*[[George Lovejoy]] |
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*[[Manningham FC]] |
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*''[[Labor daily]]'' |
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*[[List of Australian Kangaroos players]] |
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==WIP== |
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===To do=== |
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*[[Alex Watson (rugby league)]] QLD |
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*[[Andy Currier]] GBR |
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*[[Athol Smith]] QLD |
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*[[Bruce Astill]] QLD |
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*[[Cec Mountford]] NZ |
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*[[Craig Teevan]] QLD |
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*[[David Wright (rugby league)]] QLD |
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*[[Dean Lance]] |
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*[[Gary Smith (rugby league)]] QLD |
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*[[Harold Matthews (rugby league)]] |
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*[[Jeremy Schloss]] QLD |
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*[[Jim Duckworth]] |
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*[[Joe Grima]] |
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*[[John Bailey (rugby league)]] |
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*[[Nick Geiger]] QLD |
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*[[Percy Williams (rugby league)]] |
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*[[Ron Roberts]] |
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*[[Ron Turner (rugby league)]] |
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*[[Ross Strudwick]] QLD |
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*[[Russell Gartner]] |
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*[[Terry Hughes (rugby league)]] |
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*[[Tom Bourke]] |
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*[[Tony Myler]] GBR |
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{{The New Zealand Rugby League Team of the Century}} |
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===The Greatest Game of All=== |
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Oh, there's nothing like the spectacle of a [[Test_match_%28rugby_league%29|test match]] in full roar,<br /> |
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with the [[Rugby league positions#forwards|forwards]] charging, [[Rugby league positions#Backs|backs]] are stepping, running at full bore.<br /> |
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The [[Great Britain national rugby league team|Pommies]] and the [[New Zealand national rugby league team|Kiwis]] and the [[France national rugby league team|Frogs]] all play real keen,<br /> |
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but we take on all comers and [[Australia national rugby league team|Australia]] reigns supreme.<br /> |
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So whether you're on the [[Sydney Cricket Ground|Cricket Ground]], [[Lang Park]] or [[the bush]],<br /> |
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you're still gonna run, you're still gonna [[Tackle_%28football_move%29#Rugby_football|tackle]] and the [[scrum]]s have got the same push.<br /> |
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You give it some then you get some more and you really give your all,<br /> |
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playing rugby league football it's the greatest game of all.'' |
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*[http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/stories/s268699.htm] |
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*[http://www.showroom.com.au/dragons/shorthistory.htm] |
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*[http://www.crlnsw.com.au/news/article.php?id=70] |
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*[http://nla.gov.au/nla.cs-ma-an9729125] |
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*[http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=MdXXI3qDW64] |
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*[http://www.seekbooks.com.au/book/100-Years-of-Rugby-League/isbn/9780733621321.htm] |
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*[http://www.rugbyheaven.co.nz/4444195a22463.html] |
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*[http://rl1908.com/Rugby-League-News/George-Lovejoy.htm] |
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===1998 Super League Dream Team=== |
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Bradford have no representation at all |
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[[Gavin Clinch]] (Halifax Blue Sox) |
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1 [[Kris Radlinski]] (Wigan) 2 [[Jason Robinson]] (Wigan) 3 [[Gary Connolly]] (Wigan) 4 5 [[Anthony Sullivan]] (St. Helens) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 |
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===1997 Super League Dream Team=== |
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===1996 Super League Dream Team=== |
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The question suggested itself quite naturally this week: How many caps would [[Peter Gill]] (or [[Paul Gill]]?) have won, if he had been born British? |
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The London Broncos back-row forward comes instead from Toowoomba and, before he was named in the Stones Super League Dream Team this week, his only representative honour was more than a decade ago for a Queensland Residents' XIII. |
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As much as I think a case-by-case approach will just lead to more problems down the track, it seems that hard and fast rules about which club football is to be included and which is not for all players are unworkable. Maybe the best thing is if a ''guidline'' could be agreed to for different general types of players' cases. It should be understood that an article's infobox is not a substitute for its body text. The infobox is merely an added extra, to be used as a common point of reference amongst all individuals for quickly locating the most pertinent/commonly-sought information about them. When it comes to what football an individual played or coached is to be included, an exhaustive list, regardless of notability (e.g. a list including school-age representative teams alongside full international test teams) is a poor option for rugby league. I find the following tests useful when deciding on inclusion: |
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*Considering the row of 'Totals' (for matches, points, etc.) at the bottom of the 'Club' sections. Will these totals give a skewed representation of a player's career in cases where lower level data is mixed with top-level data? |
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*Considering whether, during the time spent at a club, it is/was likely, or even possible, for a player to be selected for representative football (which would be present in the "Representative information" section). If, while playing at a particular club, a footballer is selected to play representative rugby league, then clearly that club football is noteworthy. This is also important as time spent in a representative team must have corresponding time spent in in a club team so as to avoid the impression that a player came from retirement or obscurity to play representative football. |
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*Considering continuity. Will excluding football played at a club leave unexplained gaps in the data that are likely to raise questions in the minds of readers? If so, this will strengthen the case for inclusion. |
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*Considering whether data for years, games, tries, goals, field goals, points, etc. is available for football played for a side. If it is available (and citeable), this will strengthen the case for inclusion. |
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Perhaps the following (which are based on the above), if agreed to, could form the basis of such a guidline. |
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#For players like '''[[Brad Fittler]]''', if information on his pre-NSWRL teams was located and included, I think the 'Club' section of his playing career would suffer because of how neatly the figures total as they are now. These totals are a good reflection of his top-level playing career. His junior club matches should not be included in those totals, so I think the status quo for his article is fine (although there is a question mark on the inclusion of the 'City Firsts' team in his representative career. See Ian Walsh below). |
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#As for players like '''[[Arthur Beetson]]''', the same point could be made about his NSWRL club career totals being adversely affected by his BRL figures. However I think the case made (and apparently agreed to) previously about the inclusion of pre-1988 BRL football (even if it means putting up with blank spaces in some columns) is stronger, particularly as Beetson played for Queensland while at Redcliffe. It should not appear as though he came from retirement to play for the Maroons, so in his case the lack of a neat row of NSWRL totals is the lesser of two evils. Ideally figures could be located and inserted for his time at Redcliffe and included in the row of totals. Therefore I think the status quo for Beetson's article is fine too. ([[Wally Lewis]]' case is similar. If the infobox only allowed for figures from his NSWRL career his row of totals would be skewed indeed. Not only that, it would also appear that he played for (and captained) the Kangaroos years before he ever played club football!). |
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#For players like '''[[Adrian Lam]]''' it is different again. His 'Club' section also contains time spent at a Queensland club with several blank columns, however his is a post-1987 Queensland Cup team. Even if data were located and inserted for these games, they should not be included in his 'Club' total for the same reason that Brad Fittler's (see above) pre-NSWRL career shouldn't. However as most people seem to agree with treating Super League as equivalent to the NRL, his Roosters and Wakefield figures being summed would be appropriate, to give a general impression of his career just as Brad Fittler's row of totals does. So in his article's case, the status quo is not acceptable and the Wests club career should be dealt with in the body text. |
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#In cases like that of '''[[Darren Smith (rugby league)|Darren Smith]]''', who went from Super League to a post-1987 Queensland Cup team, yet from there made the occassional appearance for an NRL team, there is no need for the Queensland Cup team's figures to be listed in the 'Club' section and added to its totals. The body text's explanation is sufficient. |
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#In '''[[Wayne Bennett (rugby league)|Wayne Bennett]]''''s case, as already stated, all pre-1988 BRL footy should appear in the infobox. However informaition for Warwick, a Queensland country club, should be moved to the body text if he didn't play representative footy for Queensland whilst there. |
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#With '''[[Duncan Thompson]]''', as his representative career spanned time spent with all the clubs in his career, it appears no exclusion is necessary. However, the 'Ipswich Starlights' club, who he appears to have briefly played for after returning from the war before resuming his career in the NSWRFL, might be better placed in the body text (as per Darren Smith above). More information would of course be helpful in deciding on cases like this though. |
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#For players like '''[[Billy Wilson]]''', whose NSWRFL career was punctuated by spells playing for clubs in the bush, I think the bush clubs should stay in his case. It shows that he didn't stop playing footy between his time at the Sydney clubs. It could be argued that he didn't play for any representative teams from those country clubs, but in his case for the sake of continuity, the status quo is acceptable (ideally with further explanation in the body text). |
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#With '''[[Ian Walsh]]''' a decision needs to be made about the 'Western Divison' team that appears under the representative section of his infobox. To be consistent with the above, if it's decided that 'Western Division' should stay, then the clubs from where he was selected should also stay. However, I think City and Country should be the minimum representative level included in the infobox, in which case Walsh's football for 'Western Division' and all the clubs up until Eugowra (from which he was selected for New South Wales) should be moved to the body text and detailed there as, unlike Ian Walsh, there is no continuity issue. Deciding on the fate of 'Western Division' is not so simple yet. More information is needed on this team. If it was assembled to play against touring test teams, then I think it would be of a sufficient level to remain in the infobox. |
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#For players like '''[[Wally Prigg]]''', who never played for a Sydney team but represented Australia and New South Wales, his Newcastle club data should be retained in the infobox or it would appear that he came from obscurity to play for the Kangaroos. |
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#For players like '''[[John Dorahy]]''', who moved back and forth beween Australia and England in the days before Super League, I vote that all clubs be included for the following reasons. He was selected for Country while playing for Wests Wollongong. It's agreed that Country should appear in the representative section, so in his case Wests Wollongong should appear in the club section so it doesn't seem as though he played representative footy before playing anywhere else. The time he spent at English clubs should also be included, as looking at the years he was there, they appear to have been in the top flight at those times. Even if they weren't, just including them all might be best anyway (see below). |
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#The case of '''[[Josh Hannay]]''' is more difficult still. His infobox shows him moving from an NRL club to [[National League One]] club [[Celtic Crusaders]], a non-top-level team from where representative selection would be almost impossible. If he retired tomorrow it could be argued that the Crusaders figures (if located and included) should go into the body text and not be summed with his NRL figures. However Celtic Crusaders will become a Super League club next season and in all likelihood Hannay will continue to play for them, in which case it would be odd to have nothing for 2007-08, but 2009 figures included. This kind of case could form the basis of a rule stating that if, during a player's time at a lower level club it moves to the top level, the player's whole time there should be included for the sake of continuity. |
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*'''[[Chris Beattie]]''' |
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Based on the above, I propose the following guidlines (remember, 'exclude' does not mean exclude from the article, it just means from the infobox. Information about this football can be detailed in the body text or even other additional tables in the article): |
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*[[NRL]] - include all |
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**Toyota Cup - exclude all |
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*[[Super League]] - include all |
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*Pre-1996 [[Rugby Football League]] (regardless of division) - include all (unless someone has a better idea. I don't) |
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*French domestic competitions - include all |
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*New Zealand domestic competitions |
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**Pre-1995 - include all |
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**Post-1994 - exclude all |
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*[[NSWRL premiership|NSWRL]]/[[Australian_Rugby_League#1995-1997:_Control_of_the_first_grade_competition|ARL]]/[[Super League (Australia)|SL]]: |
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**First-grade - include all |
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**Non-first-grade - exclude all |
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*[[Brisbane Rugby League premiership|BRL]]: |
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**Pre-1988 first grade - include all |
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**Pre-1988 non-first-grade - exclude all |
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**Post-1987 - exclude all |
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*post-1995 Rugby Football League (e.g. [[Rugby League National Leagues|National Leagues 1 & 2]]) - include some (see guidelines) |
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*Queensland country competitions - include some (see guidelines) |
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*New South Wales country competitions - include some (see guidelines) |
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*[[Queensland Cup]] - exclude all |
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*[[New South Wales Cup]] - exclude all |
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*http://www.marathonstadium.com/season.php |
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*http://www.yesterdayshero.com.au/Index.aspx |
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*http://www.englandrl.co.uk/ |
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*http://www.nzrl.co.nz/page/past_caps.html |
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*http://www.thecastlefordtigers.co.uk/alltime.php |
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*http://www.qrl.com.au/qrl_history/qrl_rep.php |
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*http://www.showroom.com.au/dragons/dragonshistory/history_players.htm |
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*http://dolphinclubhouse.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=48 |
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*http://www.westsmagpies.net/archives/2008/php/players.php |
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*http://rugby.widnes.tv/playerlist.php |
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*http://www.rugbyleaguehonours.co.uk/ |
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*http://rugbyleagueproject.com/ |
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*http://www.nrlstats.com/index.cfm |
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*http://www.slstats.org/ |
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*http://www2.hunterlink.net.au/~maajjs/aus/ |
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===More proof=== |
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*http://www.coasttocoasttickets.com/rugby/ |
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*http://www.the-sports.org/rugby-statistics-teams-england-s11-c2-b1-o132-h1.html |
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Jeffrey Robert Smith BCom. - BBus. (born on the 24th of March, 1979, in Brisbane, Queensland) is a travelling English teacher currently residing in Seoul, South Korea. He is possibly the biggest fan of the Brisbane Broncos in the world. Also an avid cricket follower, Jeff wastes countless hours at work creating and improving mostly articles related to rugby league (in his words: "quite obviously the greatest sport ever invented") as well as various other topics.
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Some articles created by me
Rugby league players
Internationals
Sam Backo • Dave Bolton • Kerry Boustead • Les Boyd • Mick Burke • Mark Carroll • Jim Challinor • Douglas Clark • Chris Close • Pat Devery • Jean Dop • Paul Dunn • Joe Egan • Alf Ellaby • George Fairbairn • Frank Farrell • Denis Flannery • David Furner • Jean Galia • Russel Gartner • Andrew Gee • Ken Gee • Geoff Gerard • Sid Goodwin • Mark Graham • Paul Green • Fred Griffiths • Duncan Hall • Bill Hamilton • Michael Hancock • Paul Hauff • Gerry Helme • Ray Higgs • Martin Hodgson • Dick Huddart • Craig Innes • Peter Jackson • Chris Johns • Fred Jones • Bob Lindner • Steve Llewellyn • James Lomas • Bob Lulham • Cliff Lyons • John MacDonald • Ken Maddison • Ken McCaffery • Alan McIndoe • Jim Mills • Billy Moore • Brian Moore • Frank Myler • Noa Nadruku • Herb Narvo • Steve Nash • George Nicholls • Bill Noble • Julian O'Neill • Bob O'Reilly • Jonty Parkin • George Piggins • Geoff Pimblett • Edward Root • Max Rousié • Tommy Ryan • Don Schofield • Charlie Seeling • Mick Sullivan • Duncan Thompson • Brent Todd • Maurice Voron • Kerrod Walters • Steve Walters • Harry Wells • Graeme West • Des White • Jack Wilkinson • Lionel Williamson • Graham Wilson
Interstate
Geoff Bell • Charles Cahill • Cyril Connell, Snr. • Herb Gilbert, Jnr. • Noel Goldthorpe • Robin Gourley • Cavill Heugh • Joe Kilroy • Tom Kirk • Martin Lang • Terry Matterson • Fonda Metassa • Des Morris Clinton O'Brien • Matthew Ryan • Peter Ryan • Neville Smith / • Neil Tierney • Darryl van der Velde
Club
Allan Agar • Graham Appo • Ken Arthurson • Eric Bennett • Bill Buckley • John Carlaw • Craig Coleman • John Dixon • Albert Goldthorpe • Norm Jacobson • Bill Keato • Jack Lindwall • Steve Linnane • Tom Mooney • Manfred Moore • Ben Walker • Shane Walker • Colin van der Voort
Rugby League Competitions
Australasia
Super League (Australia) season 1997 • ARL season 1996 • ARL season 1995 • NSWRL season 1994 • NSWRL season 1993 • NSWRL season 1992 • NSWRL season 1988 • NSWRFL season 1983 • NSWRFL season 1982 • NSWRFL season 1929
Europe
Super League
Super League IX • Super League VIII • Super League VII • Super League V • Super League IV • Super League III • Super League II
Rugby Football League
1995-96 Rugby Football League season • 1994-95 Rugby Football League season • 1993-94 Rugby Football League season • 1992-93 Rugby Football League season •1984-85 Rugby Football League season • 1972-73 Northern Rugby Football League season • 1959-60 Northern Rugby Football League season • 1953-54 Northern Rugby Football League season • 1896-97 Northern Rugby Football Union season • 1895-96 Northern Rugby Football Union season
International
2008 World Club Challenge • 2007 World Club Challenge • 2005 World Club Challenge • 1994 World Club Challenge • 1992 World Club Challenge • 1991 World Club Challenge • 1989 World Club Challenge • 1987 World Club Challenge
Others
WIP
To do
- Alex Watson (rugby league) QLD
- Andy Currier GBR
- Athol Smith QLD
- Bruce Astill QLD
- Cec Mountford NZ
- Craig Teevan QLD
- David Wright (rugby league) QLD
- Dean Lance
- Gary Smith (rugby league) QLD
- Harold Matthews (rugby league)
- Jeremy Schloss QLD
- Jim Duckworth
- Joe Grima
- John Bailey (rugby league)
- Nick Geiger QLD
- Percy Williams (rugby league)
- Ron Roberts
- Ron Turner (rugby league)
- Ross Strudwick QLD
- Russell Gartner
- Terry Hughes (rugby league)
- Tom Bourke
- Tony Myler GBR
The Greatest Game of All
Oh, there's nothing like the spectacle of a test match in full roar,
with the forwards charging, backs are stepping, running at full bore.
The Pommies and the Kiwis and the Frogs all play real keen,
but we take on all comers and Australia reigns supreme.
So whether you're on the Cricket Ground, Lang Park or the bush,
you're still gonna run, you're still gonna tackle and the scrums have got the same push.
You give it some then you get some more and you really give your all,
playing rugby league football it's the greatest game of all.
1998 Super League Dream Team
Bradford have no representation at all
Gavin Clinch (Halifax Blue Sox)
1 Kris Radlinski (Wigan) 2 Jason Robinson (Wigan) 3 Gary Connolly (Wigan) 4 5 Anthony Sullivan (St. Helens) 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
1997 Super League Dream Team
1996 Super League Dream Team
The question suggested itself quite naturally this week: How many caps would Peter Gill (or Paul Gill?) have won, if he had been born British?
The London Broncos back-row forward comes instead from Toowoomba and, before he was named in the Stones Super League Dream Team this week, his only representative honour was more than a decade ago for a Queensland Residents' XIII.
NRL Premiers Timeline
[[Category:|Gibson Flying V]]
Club football to be included
As much as I think a case-by-case approach will just lead to more problems down the track, it seems that hard and fast rules about which club football is to be included and which is not for all players are unworkable. Maybe the best thing is if a guidline could be agreed to for different general types of players' cases. It should be understood that an article's infobox is not a substitute for its body text. The infobox is merely an added extra, to be used as a common point of reference amongst all individuals for quickly locating the most pertinent/commonly-sought information about them. When it comes to what football an individual played or coached is to be included, an exhaustive list, regardless of notability (e.g. a list including school-age representative teams alongside full international test teams) is a poor option for rugby league. I find the following tests useful when deciding on inclusion:
- Considering the row of 'Totals' (for matches, points, etc.) at the bottom of the 'Club' sections. Will these totals give a skewed representation of a player's career in cases where lower level data is mixed with top-level data?
- Considering whether, during the time spent at a club, it is/was likely, or even possible, for a player to be selected for representative football (which would be present in the "Representative information" section). If, while playing at a particular club, a footballer is selected to play representative rugby league, then clearly that club football is noteworthy. This is also important as time spent in a representative team must have corresponding time spent in in a club team so as to avoid the impression that a player came from retirement or obscurity to play representative football.
- Considering continuity. Will excluding football played at a club leave unexplained gaps in the data that are likely to raise questions in the minds of readers? If so, this will strengthen the case for inclusion.
- Considering whether data for years, games, tries, goals, field goals, points, etc. is available for football played for a side. If it is available (and citeable), this will strengthen the case for inclusion.
Perhaps the following (which are based on the above), if agreed to, could form the basis of such a guidline.
Guideline Rationale |
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Based on the above, I propose the following guidlines (remember, 'exclude' does not mean exclude from the article, it just means from the infobox. Information about this football can be detailed in the body text or even other additional tables in the article):
Football played (or coached) at clubs in the:
- NRL - include all
- Toyota Cup - exclude all
- Super League - include all
- Pre-1996 Rugby Football League (regardless of division) - include all (unless someone has a better idea. I don't)
- French domestic competitions - include all
- New Zealand domestic competitions
- Pre-1995 - include all
- Post-1994 - exclude all
- NSWRL/ARL/SL:
- First-grade - include all
- Non-first-grade - exclude all
- BRL:
- Pre-1988 first grade - include all
- Pre-1988 non-first-grade - exclude all
- Post-1987 - exclude all
- post-1995 Rugby Football League (e.g. National Leagues 1 & 2) - include some (see guidelines)
- Queensland country competitions - include some (see guidelines)
- New South Wales country competitions - include some (see guidelines)
- Queensland Cup - exclude all
- New South Wales Cup - exclude all
Useful links
Matches
Players
- http://203.166.101.37/NRL08/playerindex.asp
- http://www.yesterdayshero.com.au/Index.aspx
- http://www.englandrl.co.uk/
- http://www.nzrl.co.nz/page/past_caps.html
- http://www.thecastlefordtigers.co.uk/alltime.php
- http://www.qrl.com.au/qrl_history/qrl_rep.php
- http://www.showroom.com.au/dragons/dragonshistory/history_players.htm
- http://dolphinclubhouse.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=48
- http://www.westsmagpies.net/archives/2008/php/players.php
- http://rugby.widnes.tv/playerlist.php
- http://www.rugbyleaguehonours.co.uk/
Both
- http://rugbyleagueproject.com/
- http://www.nrlstats.com/index.cfm
- http://www.slstats.org/
- http://www2.hunterlink.net.au/~maajjs/aus/