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Del Monte

I am trying to figure out the relationship with Del Monte. Are they still a subsidiary? Also, I am interested in finding out if they are having products made at the Bay Valley Foods Plant in Pittsburgh.

Del Monte is no longer a subsidiary. It has an office on the North Shore of Pittsburgh but is headquartered in California. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.13.60.193 (talk) 16:58, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

57

Franklin Toker maintains that "57" came from the street in Pittsburgh, across the river from Sharpsburg. other than the 62nd street bridge, it is the first numbered street. i can't stand the guy myself, but i think he may actually be on to something. growing up, heinz would've seen the number every time he took the trolley into town, and he very well have never realised the connection himself.

redirect

We shouldn't make "Heinz" redirect to this page, as there may be other examples of "Heinz" besides H J Heinz Company.

I guess you're right. I'll remove it
Not at all! Wikipedia rules use "most common usage" first. Therefore Heinz rightfully redirects to this page! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.39.59 (talk) 02:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

edit conflict

Sorry, had an edit conflict while I was rewriting the article. I took out the following few lines, but if someone wants to reintegrate them, please do:

Another famous slogan is "Beans Meinz Heinz" -the meinz being pronounced as means.

Heinz' first tinned beans with tomato sauce were in 1895.

Cream of tomato soup first appeared in 1910 in Pittsburgh. -- Arteitle 07:13 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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additional info to be incorporated into main article:

H J Heinz Company, commonly known as just 'Heinz', is a large multinational food packaging and marketing corporation.

Company founder Henry John Heinz (1844-1919) started selling food stuffs in the 1860s, first curing pickles and selling them on a wagon door to door in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. His first labeled product was horseradish which he made and sold in glass jars.

Heinz first company went bankrupt in the Panic of 1875. The current company was incorporated in 1888.

One of Heinz' leading product is ketchup; the Heinz brand accounts for over 60% of ketchup sold in the USA.

Heinz "57 Varieties" advertising slogan is well known. Despite having the slogan "57 varieties" it never really had exactly 57 varieties of products; the number was picked and retained because it was thought to sound good in advertising.

Another Heinz slogan is "Beans Meinz Heinz" -the meinz being pronounced as means.

Today, Heinz has more than 1200 products worldwide.

Heinz' first tinned beans with tomato sauce were in 1895.

Cream of tomato soup first appeared in 1910 in Pittsburgh.

Some of the food lines owned by Heinz include Weight Watchers and Ore-Ida.

food lines owned

I believe weight watchers was sold off. Wikicide 21:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Heinz has Weight Watchers food under licences Website](Rmfloris 06:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC))[reply]

'Make-an-ad' contest in Trivia section

What is the significance of mentioning that Heinz has a UGC campaign? They're not unique or even a leading company in that regard? Can we delete it? Jbgreen 20:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

External Links

-- Infrogmation 07:29 2 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The Heinz site gives that beans slogan as "Beanz Meanz Heinz" (and mentions that it's used in England). -- Arteitle

See Also... Hunt's?

Huh? I'm assuming this is here (and a related link on the Hunt's page), because they are the "big two" companies producing Ketchup in the U.S. However, there really isn't an explanation, and really Ketchup is one of the few products that they do compete in, and otherwise their large variety of products don't intersect at all. Is this standard practice on Wikipedia to link companies with popular competing products? I checked Plochman's and French's and didn't see that. 69.95.240.54 (talk) 22:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proxy Battle

Is it just me or is starting the article with that subject a little harsh? Sorry, english is not my main language. I think it should be integrated in the history section but not be a section by itself. And definitely not at the beginning. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.36.144.229 (talk) 06:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I found it to be a bit jarring. I'm moving it to a deeper section of the article.
—BMRR (talk) 19:40, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Beanz Meanz Heinz

'Beanz Meanz Heinz' is arguably the most well-known Heinz slogan in the UK. I've never heard the '57 varieties' thing, but I assume that's famous in the US - which is all well and good, considering that this is an American company. But maybe the UK's famous slogan should be mentioned in the UK section, if other's think that it's appropriate. Sources: http://www.adslogans.co.uk/hof/mediacover.html; http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/foodanddrinknews/4398223/Heinz-to-bring-back-Beanz-Meanz-Heinz.html. Zestos (talk) 14:35, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

LBGT consumers

The estimate of 3.6 million homosexual consumers in the UK is a gross exaggeration....or at least I certainly hope it is.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.5.68.95 (talk) 09:14, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moron — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.223.85.49 (talk) 23:15, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The news article used as a reference says 3.6 million. Whether that is accurate or not, I have no idea, but you would have to take up your concerns with the newspaper; Wikipedia is just quoting the article. —BMRR (talk) 17:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Pay dispute at Northgate, Brisbane (Golden Circle)

Removed the reference to the pay dispute involving Peni Volavola as it has been resolved. See the NUW statement on its website.

Update made by Corporate Affairs, Heinz Australia.

The contact link is not working for the site in China....

What is the role of

亨氏青岛食品有限公司 Tel (0532) 8319-1791

in this company...??? --222.64.223.219 (talk) 07:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

History

Why is there no history section at all?--78.49.98.45 (talk) 21:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Because this is a pretty bad article. If you know anything about the history of such, feel free to add--77.99.231.37 (talk) 21:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I don't know the history and so can't add it, but the Background section launches straight into a sentence about Heinz and his parents with no context at all. Bizarre. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scampben (talk • contribs) 15:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The logo used is NOT USED ON HEINZ PRODUCTS! Everyone knows what the heinz logo is. Just look at a tin of soup, a tin of beans, a bottle of ketchup - THEN you will understand that the heinz logo used is just not. Behind closed doors maybe --77.99.231.37 (talk) 21:04, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Behind closed doors? They use it on their web site... I wouldn't call that behind closed doors. –BMRR (talk) 23:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is not used on the products. The American website, yes, but elsewhere?--77.99.231.37 (talk) 15:53, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article is about the company, therefore it should have the company's official corporate logo. There are a number of companies that use logos on their individual products that differ from their corporate logo. For example, Colgate-Palmolive vs. Colgate Toothpaste or Palmolive Soap. Also, I just looked at my jar of Heinz Horseradish Sauce and my bottle of Heinz Ketchup, and even though they have the more familiar Heinz logo on the front, the label on the back (where the ingredients are listed) has the corporate logo (as seen on this page and on their web site). –BMRR (talk) 16:35, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Details from June 2007 version

The following unreferenced details are from H._J._Heinz_Company&oldid=139577665, a version of the article existing from about the time that Talk:H. J. Heinz Company/Comments was created with Warfreak (t c) comment "Good article but lacks refs for GA status"

The company was initially named the Anchor Pickle and Vinegar Works, and was run by Heinz and partner L. C. Noble. The name changed to Heinz, Noble & Company in 1872 when E. J. Noble joined on and the company relocated to nearby Pittsburgh.
After a banking panic forced him into bankruptcy in 1875, Heinz restarted his business with the help of his brother John and his cousin Frederick, and in the following year they introduced what would become its most well-known product: tomato ketchup. The new company was known as F. & J. Heinz until 1888, when Henry bought controlling interest from his brother and gave the business its current name.
In 1919 Henry Heinz died, and control of the company passed to his son, Howard Heinz, who was then succeeded by H. J. Heinz II, in 1941
By 1972, sales had reached the billion dollar mark. Today, Heinz sells more than 1,300 products worldwide ranging from ketchup to baby food.

—72.244.200.71 (talk) 21:37, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Heinz" IPA pronounce

Someone local can please write down how we globally speak the name "Heinz"? It's a german name but it's a north american trademark, it's confuse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.34.96.206 (talk) 14:52, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Berkshire Hathaway?

What is the standard practice when a company is purchased? For example, look at Applied Underwriters. When Berkshire Hathaway purchased them they were just given a redirect to Berkshire Hathaway. I guess this may not be the best place to ask but I'm wondering if Applied Underwriters should be recreated or if this article and articles like Geico should simply redirect to Berkshire Hathaway.Lucutious (talk) 13:49, 23 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed merger. Added brief already. Not sure about the standard practice but I'm going to work on it tonight.-Koverpw (talk) 10:53, 25 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 26 March 2015

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The result of the move request was: Not moved although an RM to "Heinz" would probably be consistent with PRIMARYTOPIC Mike Cline (talk) 15:54, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]


Heinz (company) → Heinz Company – The article was previously H. J. Heinz Company. It may be simply called "Heinz", but I'm sure it's also called "Heinz Company". --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 01:55, 2 April 2015 (UTC) George Ho (talk) 03:35, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support per WP:NATURAL. RGloucester — ☎ 04:25, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment officially, according to the current presentation of their website, the name is Heinz.
According to Britannica ( it is "Heinz Company American corporation - Heinz Company, in full H.J. Heinz Company, major American manufacturer of processed foods, which are distributed in approximately 200 countries throughout the world.
According to [https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Heinz+company%22&espv=2&biw=1167&bih=621&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=WNsTVbqIJo7WaovBgYgF&ved=0CFQQsQQ news results: The enlarged company will be known as the Kraft Heinz Company and ...
Perhaps a merge should be considered or for one of the articles to act as a historic record. GregKaye 10:22, 26 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, "Heinz Company" is extremely unnatural. They don't use this name. GregKaye 14:26, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose' "Heinz Company" is a made-up name. The company's proper name is H.J. Heinz Company. The common name for the company and brand is simply Heinz. I think a strong case could be made for the company and brand being the primary topic. In fact, on 28 October 2007 Oh Snap turned it into a redirect to H. J. Heinz Company after a brief discussion at Talk:Heinz and it remained a redirect until 24 June 2009 when Graham87 moved the disambiguation page back as part of a history merge. older ≠ wiser 17:07, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is there a reason we can't just do Heinz? Everything looks to me like a PTM on the dab page... Red Slash 23:58, 3 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Requested move 10 April 2015

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The result of the move request was: Move. We have a rough consensus, borne out by the evidence, that the company is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the term. Cúchullain t/c 16:52, 13 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]


– If "Heinz" company is the primary topic, then parenthetical disambiguation is not needed. A possible merger with Kraft is coming, but another RM is deserving. --Relisted. George Ho (talk) 18:59, 18 April 2015 (UTC) George Ho away from home (talk) 21:01, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support as per nom GregKaye 03:58, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment oppose merger just create a new article covering the merged company period. Each company, Kraft and Heinz should have a separate article, as they have substantial notable histories independently -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 11:14, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, no no no. I wasn't proposing article merger; just renaming. --George Ho (talk) 20:26, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – no coherent reason for the proposed primarygrab here. Dicklyon (talk) 14:25, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
User:Dicklyon, how about stats? The hot dog company, the publisher, sound equip. company, US college. Need more? --George Ho (talk) 20:31, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
More links, no thanks. But if you want to make a primarytopic case based on article access counts, you need to say so, and you need to add up all the others. The move reason you gave above is vacuous. Dicklyon (talk) 20:38, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Dicklyon, Red Slash: Looking at articles, Henry J. Heinz was the founder of the food conglomerate, Heinz (44,956 times in last ninety days). And the disambiguation has many "Heinz" articles inspired by the Heinz family, including the late H. J. Heinz III. Most of Heinz places are located in Pennsylvania, mainly Pittsburgh. In other words, their significances started with the Heinz family and their food conglomerate. Looking at topics unrelated to the Heinz family, Heinz Records is a redirect, so it won't qualify. Given name dabpage has been viewed 894 times in the last ninety days. Professor Heinz Wolff's Gravity has a natural title, so it won't qualify either. The singer Heinz was viewed 6,976 times, but that was due to a one-week viewership; other days are low-viewed. But one topic challenging the company is Heinz body, named after the German scientist, Robert Heinz. If the proposal is unanimously opposed, including changed votes, perhaps I'll try to withdraw this proposal. Otherwise, for now, that's impossible. --George Ho (talk) 05:08, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – I cannot agree that this is the primary topic. I supported using WP:NATURAL disambiguation, but that seems to have been rejected for no apparent reason. I certainly do not favour granting the company primary topic status, especially given the current status of the company. RGloucester — ☎ 16:06, 11 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC given the pageviews. Red Slash 20:41, 12 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - "Heinz" is a given name, and the company does not have primary topic for the name "Heinz". CookieMonster755 (talk) 00:45, 22 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - a clear primary topic, especially in the English speaking world. When you say Heinz to the vast majority of people in the English speaking world, they would think primarily about the food company. The given name is mainly a German one, so is not so widely used in English countries.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:20, 26 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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