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{{infobox television |
===[[Vithoba]]===
| show_name = Lewis Black's Root of All Evil
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| rating =
| format = [[Moot court]]
| runtime = 30 Minutes
| creator = [[Scott Carter]]<br>[[David Sacks]]
| starring = [[Lewis Black]]
| country = {{USA}}
| network = [[Comedy Central]]
| first_aired = [[March 12]], [[2008]]
| last_aired = present
| num_seasons = 1
| num_episodes = 18
| list_episodes =
| website = http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/root_of_all_evil/index.jhtml
| imdb_id = 0995865
| tv_com_id = 73594
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'''''Lewis Black's Root of All Evil''''' is an [[United States|American]] [[television series]] that premiered on [[Comedy Central]] on [[March 12]], [[2008]], starring comedian [[Lewis Black]]. The show is produced by ''[[Real Time With Bill Maher]]'' producer Scott Carter and ''[[The Simpsons]]'' writer David Sacks.
:<small>''Nominator(s): [[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]])''</small>
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The show is in [[mock trial]] format, featuring Black presiding over two people or issues going against each other like defendants and plaintiffs in a trial, with a series of comedians and guests, such as [[Kathleen Madigan]], [[Greg Giraldo]], [[Andy Daly]], [[Paul F. Tompkins]], and [[Patton Oswalt]], playing lawyers making their case why something (e.g. [[YouTube]], [[beer]], [[Oprah]], [[PETA]] etc.) is the "root of all evil."
I'm nominating this article for featured article because
* I feel the article fulfills FA criteria.
* It covers all areas that a Hindu deity article should have. The article can be compared with FA [[Ganesha]] (the only Hindu deity FA) for reference, though Vithoba article differs in certain areas as Ganesha is a pan-Indian deity, Vithoba is a regional one.
* Vithoba article is a GA from 14 July 2008 and is peer reviewed on August 6, 2008.


Field pieces are all directed by Supervising Producer, Michael Addis.
[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 12:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


==Format==
'''Comments'''
Each show begins with Lewis Black welcoming the viewer to his courtroom and declares who the two candidates for 'root of all evil' will be with a trademark "Which is the root of all evillllllllllll?" After the introduction finishes Black gives a brief history of each of the candidates and introduces the two advocates. He then chooses one of them to start his/her opening statement which is then followed by the other advocate's opening statement. After this Black asks the advocates to present their case for their respective evil. Like the opening statements these mostly consist of oral arguments occasionally featuring previously filmed video 'evidence'. After both advocates finish Black begins his inquisition where he takes turns asking the advocates questions regarding their evil. Most of the time these questions relate to the good or usefulness of the 'evil' or questions that attempt to point out that the other candidate is more evil. After this Black asks the advocates to predict what would happen if their evil continued to grow and be successful in their "Ripple of Evil". The Ripple of Evils usually use absurd and comedic logic and are generally very silly, although they are spoken in a serious tone. After this Black asks the advocates for closing arguments, then asks for the audience's opinion (which he almost never agrees with) and then ends the show with his final verdict along with the loser's [[Sentence (law)|sentence]].
* What makes the following reliable sources?
** http://www.ambedkar.org/Tirupati/Foreword.htm
** http://www.dvaita.org/haridasa/index.html
* http://books.google.com/books?id=ltJI5KhFTRUC this is a google snippet, which doesn't allow you to gather the full context of the work. It also was originally published in the 1950's, surely there is something more recent? <s>ALSO, this is an encyclopedia, and the articles are written by individuals, and the author of the snippet you've pulled out isn't Hastings, it's a W. Crooke. Use {{tl|cite encyclopedia}} to format this correctly.</s>
* Again, the Eaton book is being used as Google snippets of a search, you can't get the full context by doing this.
* <s>Do you want last name first or first name first on the authors? Pick one and be consistent.</s>
* Same deal on the Chavan work, it's a google books search, was the printed source consulted to make sure the full context of the author's statements was understood?
* Rather than repeat myself with each use of Google Books searches, I'll make a general statement that you need to consult the whole work, not just the limited preview given by Google Books.
:: My concern isn't so much with using a convience link to the pages on Google Books, but a concern that the research on the article itself was conducted via Google Search without actually consulting the books and gaining the full context. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 16:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
: Otherwise sources look good, links checked out with the link checker tool. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 15:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
:: To determine the reliablity of the site, we need to know what sort of fact checking they do. You can establish this by showing news articles that say the site is reliable/noteworthy/etc. or you can show a page on the site that gives their rules for submissions/etc. or you can show they are backed by a media company/university/institute, or you can show that the website gives its sources and methods, or there are some other ways that would work too. It's their reputation for reliabilty that needs to be demonstrated. Please see [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2008-06-26/Dispatches]] for further detailed information. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 16:07, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
::: I'll leave these out for other reviewers to decide for themselves. [[User:Ealdgyth|Ealdgyth]] - [[User talk:Ealdgyth|Talk]] 13:44, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
REPLY:
Thanks for your comments.
* [http://www.dvaita.org/haridasa/misc/bib.html Bibliography] is quoted at http://www.dvaita.org/haridasa/index.html
* http://www.ambedkar.org/Tirupati/Chap4.htm, the reference i used quotes page numbers and books of other authors. [http://www.ambedkar.org/Tirupati/Bibliography It's Bibliography]. Some of them, like Dhere's author is not English, but in [[Marathi]]. So quoting directly from Dhere, would make it difficult for readers to crosscheck the reference.
* Most Google books are provided only for reference (that is hard copies are consulted, though some like Hastings are from google books entirely), the Google books can be crosschecked by readers who want to check the source online. In some google books, only just 1 page is used, as in Hastings book, which is completely available there. If anyone wants, they can look into the hard copies.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 16:05, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
: CLARIFY in DETAIL: List of refs that are taken only from google books (All other books' hard hopies are checked, the google books version of these may or may not have the pages from where the text is referenced):
:* Ref 10: (Zelliot, Eleanor (1988). The Experience of Hinduism: Essays on Religion in Maharashtra.), only 1 page is used as reference, that too just a 5-line note by the author.
:* Ref 11: (Chavan, V. P. (1991). Vaishnavism of the Gowd Saraswat Brahmins and a Few Konkani Folklore Tales), again only 5 lines are considered as that is the amount the author comments on the Shankra - Vithoba connection.
:* Ref 14: (Kelkar, Ashok R. (2001). "Sri-Vitthal: Ek Mahasamanvay (Marathi) by R.C. Dhere". Encyclopaedia of Indian literature 5) The whole encyclopedia entry is visible.
:* Ref 15: (Schomer, Karine; McLeod, W. H. (1987). Vaudeville in The Sants: Studies in a Devotional Tradition of India) The whole section(The Shaiva origins of god Vitthala) is visible on google books.
:* Ref 18: (Anon [1898] (1988). The Great Temples of India, Ceylon, and Burma) The whole section (Pandharpur and Jejuri) is available.
:* Ref 24: (Gokhale, Shobana (1985). "The Pandharpur Stone inscription of the Yadava king Mahadeva Sake 1192) The whole article is available.
:* Ref 33: (Ranade, R. D. (1988). Mysticism in Maharashtra: Indian Mysticism) The whole section(history of vitthala sampradaya) is available.
:* Ref 38: (Zelliot, Eleanor; Berntsen, Maxine (1988). The Experience of Hinduism: Essays on Religion in Maharashtra) The whole section "Influence of Shaivism" is available.
:* Ref 41: (Keer, Dhanajay [1954] (2005). Dr. Ambedkar: Life and Mission) 1 para that is all the author comments on Vithoba and Ambedkar
:* Ref 45: (Pillai, S. Devadas (1997). Indian Sociology Through Ghurye, a Dictionary) The 2 page entry on Vithoba is completely visible.
:* Ref 53: (Kiehnle, Catharina (1997). Songs on Yoga: Texts and Teachings of the Mahārāṣṭrian Nāths) A footnote discusses the word "Kannada", in connection to Vithoba.
:* Ref 59: (Flood, Gavin D. (2003). The Blackwell Companion to Hinduism) There are 2 paras dedicated to Haridasa, both available on google books.
:* REf 83: (T. Padmaja (2002). Temples of Kr̥ṣṇa in South India: History, Art, and Traditions in Tamilnāḍu) All pages where Vittala is discussed, are avilable.
:* ref 84: (Ranade, R. D.. Mysticism in Maharashtra: Indian Mysticism) The entire article on Bhanudas available.
:* Ref 87: (Rao, Vasudeva (2002). Living Traditions in Contemporary Contexts: The Madhva Matha of Udupi) The whole table is avilable where 8 deities of Upudi mathas are listed.
:* ref 9 and 85: (Eaton, Richard Maxwell (2005). A Social History of the Deccan, 1300–1761: Eight Indian Lives) The entire section "Pastoral tribes and religions of Desh" available, also the Vitthala temple in Hampi is discussed only in 1 page (the earlier and later page also available to check validity of the argument), which is available.
--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 07:18, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
* formatted reference as encyclopedia.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 16:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
* "last name first name" format used for consistency.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 17:17, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


==Advocates==
REPLY to comments on 2 OCT:
The advocates are the people who put forward their cases regarding whether or not a certain person, location, or thing is the "root of all evil." The advocates and their win-loss records are:<ref>{{cite web |url= http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/root_of_all_evil/prosecutors/index.jhtml|title= Prosecutors|publisher=Comedy Central|accessdate=2008-09-09}}</ref>
* "you can show that the website gives its sources and methods" criteria is fulfilled.
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* Dvaita.org is referenced 70 times on wikipedia. [http://www.domaintools.com/enwikipedia/dvaita.org], Dvaita.org is mentioned at [[Intute]], a free online service providing you with a database of hand selected Web resources for education and research. [http://www.intute.ac.uk/artsandhumanities/cgi-bin/browse.pl?id=200661]--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 11:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
!Advocate
* The book "Tirupati Balaji was a Buddhist Shrine" (the website I have used is a ebook version of the book [http://www.ambedkar.org/Tirupati/]) used as a reference (44) here, [http://www.martynmission.cam.ac.uk/CDSingh.htm#_ednref44 Henry Martyn Centre, Westminster College, Cambridge CB3 0AA, UK]. Used as reference (3) here Non-English [http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://www.awker.com/hongshi/special/arts/4art12.htm&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522Tirupati%2BBalaji%2Bwas%2Ba%2BBuddhist%2BShrine%2522%26start%3D30%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN] and Columbia University site - non-English article [http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~spotter/sheitel/4757333677.pdf]--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 12:16, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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|[[Andrew Daly]]
* Hi, in line 3, "worshipped prominently" did you really mean "worshipped predominately"? '''[[User:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Purple">Ϣere</span>]][[User talk:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Orange">Spiel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Pink">Chequers]]'''</span> 22:22, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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:: Thanks, nice suggestion.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 04:15, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::No probs, happy to help. Also I tried to link Kole, but that place in India doesn't yet have an article. Is it known by other names, such as perhaps being yet another name for [[Kolar]]? If not you could go up one level of Geography with a phrase such as Kole, <nowiki>[[district name]]</nowiki> district. '''[[User:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Purple">Ϣere</span>]][[User talk:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Orange">Spiel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Pink">Chequers]]'''</span> 12:51, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::: I am not so sure about the exact geography either, i am sure it is in the state of [[Maharashtra]], as per reference. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 15:43, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::: Found it, it is in [[Satara district]]. [http://www.maharashtra.gov.in/english/gazetteer/SATARA/places_Kole.html] --[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 15:46, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::::That's good. Also I've just spotted in the last sentence of [[Vithoba#Devotional works]] That it opens a bracket at "(monkey god," but doesn't close it. '''[[User:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Purple">Ϣere</span>]][[User talk:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Orange">Spiel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Pink">Chequers]]'''</span> 23:08, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
|[[Andy Kindler]]
::::::Done.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 11:36, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::::::Thanks for resolving my concerns, not sure I yet feel qualified to assess whether an article meets the FA standard or not, but as my concerns have been addressed perhaps whoever is assessing this candidacy could count me as '''Unqualified Support''' '''[[User:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Purple">Ϣere</span>]][[User talk:WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Orange">Spiel</span>]][[Special:Contributions/WereSpielChequers|<span style="color:Pink">Chequers]]'''</span> 12:54, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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*'''Oppose''' per criterion three concerns:
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**[[:Image:Vitthal.png]] - fails [[WP:NFCC]]#1 as an object still in existence. Whether or not photography is "allowed" is not relevant to copyright. Even if it were, surely there are other statues ([[:Image:Vithoba_Gutenberg.jpg|''cough'']]).
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**<s>[[:Image:Vithoba Gutenberg.jpg]] - incorrect copyright tag (the copyright owner did not release this - rather, its term expired). Please update accordingly.</s>
|[[Patton Oswalt]]*
**<s>[[:Image:Purandara.jpg]] - needs a verifiable source per [[WP:IUP]]</s>
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**<s>[[:Image:Sant-Tukaram.jpg]] - needs a verifiable source and image summary per WP:IUP.</s> [[User:elcobbola|<font color="red"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></font>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 19:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
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|[[Kathleen Madigan]]
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|[[Greg Giraldo]]
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|[[Paul F. Tompkins]]*
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|[[Jerry Minor]]
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Neither Oswalt or Tompkins were declared winners in the case of Red States v. Blue States-instead, Black declared that the root of all evil was Puerto Rico. Therefore, the results were not counted in the official win column. However, the audience poll result declared Red States the root of all evil, and results were counted in the audience poll columns.


==Episodes==
REPLY:
===Season 1===
* [[:Image:Vitthal.png]]: There is other statues, but Pandharpur's Vithoba statue is the oldest image, on which all other images are modeled. In Hinduism, certain regional Hindu deities like [[Khandoba]], [[Meenakshi]], [[Balaji]] are attached to a place, here [[Jejuri]], [[Madurai]], [[Tirumala]] respectively. So the central image is important. Also the iconography section referes to the main image's characteristics.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 04:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
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* [[:Image:Vithoba Gutenberg.jpg]]: <nowiki>{{PD-old}}</nowiki> added
!Episode
**I've changed this to {{tl|PD-UK}} and {{tl|PD-US-1996}}. Elcobbola, could you check if I added the proper tags? Confirmation of PD status in the UK: [http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/20583] <span style="background:#E0FFFF;color:#007FFF;font-family:Georgia;">[[User:Nishkid64|Nishkid64]] </span><sub>([[User talk:Nishkid64|Make articles, not wikidrama]])</sub> 21:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
!Advocate 1
* [[:Image:Purandara.jpg]] and [[:Image:Sant-Tukaram.jpg]] commented out. Have requeted uploader of Punrandara to add source information. [[:Image:Sant-Tukaram.jpg]] points the source to http://www.poetseers.org/spiritual_and_devotional_poets/india/tukuram/. Have contacted "Poetseers" website by mail to check the status of the image. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 07:53, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
!Advocate 2
:::I corrected the tag/sourcing for the Gutenberg image. I'm not the biggest fan of commenting out, as it tends to be [[WP:BEANS]] for someone unaware of this discussion to come along and uncomment out, but I've stricken as they're "technically" removed. The crux of the issue with [[:Image:Vitthal.png]] is, again, that it is an object that still exists. The temple itself could release a free image, the template could change policy to allow photographs, or someone could ignore the policy and take a photograph. [[User:elcobbola|<font color="red"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></font>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 14:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
!Root of All Evil
: I appreciate Эlcobbola's help in fixing the tag at Gutenberg img. Thanks.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 16:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
!Viewer Poll Winner
:: The comments are removed.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 16:56, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
!Air Date
:: If [[WP:IAR|Ignore the policy]] is suggested for a photo in the temple, then shouldn't it be done here? In my opinion, the fair use rationale is valid, though i will respect a third opinion saying the photo be removed, if it is only hurdle between the article and FA status. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 06:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::The rationale doesn't even discuss free replacability (NFCC#10C and [[WP:RAT]]), let alone apply to an image that passes it (NFCC#1). IAR can be applied when following policy would be a detriment to the encyclopedia. A ''free'' encyclopedia is never hurt by requiring a free image when one ''could still be obtained''. Has http://www.maharashtra.gov.in been asked to release a free version? There are several pictures on Flickr - have any of those uploaders been asked to release a free version? Has an image [[WP:RP|been requested]]? We don't ignore policy because it is an inconvenience. [[User:elcobbola|<font color="red"><i>'''Эlcobbola'''</i></font>]]&nbsp;<sub>[[User talk:elcobbola|talk]]</sub> 14:53, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
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:::: I have mailed the site, there was no reply.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 15:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
|[[Paul F. Tompkins]] - [[Oprah]]
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic Church]]
|[[Oprah]]
|[[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic Church]]
|[[March 12]][[2008]]
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|[[Andy Kindler]] - [[Donald Trump]]
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Sildenafil|Viagra]]
|[[Donald Trump]]
|[[Sildenafil|Viagra]]
|[[March 19]][[2008]]
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|3
|[[Paul F. Tompkins]] - [[Cannabis (drug)|Weed]]
|[[Andrew Daly]] - [[Beer]]
|[[Beer]]
|[[Cannabis (drug)|Weed]]
|[[March 26]][[2008]]
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|4
|[[Patton Oswalt]] - [[YouTube]]
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Pornography|Porn]]
|[[YouTube]]
|[[YouTube]]
|[[April 2]][[2008]]
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|5
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Paris Hilton]]
|[[Patton Oswalt]] - [[Dick Cheney]]
|[[Dick Cheney]]
|[[Paris Hilton]]
|[[April 9]][[2008]]
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|6
|[[Patton Oswalt]] - [[High School]]
|[[Andy Kindler]] - [[American Idol]]
|[[American Idol]]
|[[High School]]
|[[April 16]][[2008]]
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|7
|[[Kathleen Madigan]] - [[Kim Jong-il]]
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Tila Tequila]]
|[[Kim Jong-il]]
|[[Tila Tequila]]
|[[April 23]][[2008]]
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|8
|[[Andrew Daly]] - [[Las Vegas, Nevada|Las Vegas]]
|[[Patton Oswalt]] - [[Human Anatomy|The Human Body]]
|[[Las Vegas, Nevada|Las Vegas]]
|[[Las Vegas, Nevada|Las Vegas]]
|[[April 30]][[2008]]
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===Season 2===
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'''Support''' in terms of prose. Could do with a little scrutiny, but not bad at all.
!Episode
*"Historicity"—dear, English has some ugly words, and most readers won't know what it means, exactly. Why not "historical authenticity", which is my dictionary's sole definition?
!Advocate 1
*"Many conflicting theories exist"—Newsflash for all nominators: when you see "exist", check whether the superior "There is/are" can be substituted. This is the case here.
!Advocate 2
*Is it common in Indian English to space the initials of people's names? Better on a justified computer screen not to, I'd have thought, but it's no big deal.
!Root of All Evil
*"Epithet ''for'', not ''of". I thought epithets were adjectives. Maybe it's a wider class ...
!Viewer Poll Winner
*Some of the paragraphs are big and grey; some I see are not easily divisible, but I haven't looked at all from that perspective. You might find some. [[User:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">'''Tony'''</font >]] [[User talk:Tony1|<font color="darkgreen">(talk)</font >]] 07:28, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
!Air Date
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|[[Andrew Daly]] - [[Ultimate Fighting]]
|[[Patton Oswalt]] - [[Bloggers]]
|[[Bloggers]]
|[[Bloggers]]
|[[July 30]][[2008]]
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|10
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Steroids]]
|[[Andrew Daly]] - [[Breast implant|Boob Jobs]]
|[[Breast implant|Boob Jobs]]
|[[Steroids]]
|[[August 6]][[2008]]
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|11
|[[Andrew Daly]] - [[Olympic Games]]
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Drinking game|Drinking Games]]
|[[Drinking game|Drinking Games]]
|[[Drinking game|Drinking Games]]
|[[August 13]] [[2008]]
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|12
|[[Andy Kindler]] - [[National Rifle Association|NRA]]
|[[Paul F. Tompkins]] - [[PETA]]
|[[National Rifle Association|NRA]]
|[[PETA]]
|[[August 20]] [[2008]]
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|13
|[[Paul F. Tompkins]] - [[Red States]]
|[[Patton Oswalt]] - [[Blue States]]
|[[Puerto Rico]]
|[[Red States]]
|[[August 27]] [[2008]]
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|14
|[[Kathleen Madigan]] - [[Disney]]
|[[Andy Kindler]] - [[Scientology]]
|[[Disney]]
|[[Scientology]]
|[[September 3]] [[2008]]
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|15
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Environmentalism|Going Green]]
|[[Andrea Savage]] - [[Spring Break]]
|[[Spring Break]]
|[[Spring Break]]
|[[September 10]] [[2008]]
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|16
|[[Paul F. Tompkins]] - [[Gen X]]
|[[Andrew Daly]] - [[Baby boomer|Boomers]]
|[[Baby boomer|Boomers]]
|[[Boomers]]
|[[September 17]] [[2008]]
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|17
|[[Greg Giraldo]] - [[Strip club|Strip Clubs]]
|[[Kathleen Madigan]] - [[Sororities]]
|[[Strip club|Strip Clubs]]
|[[Sororities]]
|[[September 24]] [[2008]]
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|18
|[[Jerry Minor]] - [[The Hills]]
|[[Paul F. Tompkins]] - [[Aerospace engineering|Rocket Scientists]]
|[[The Hills]]
|[[The Hills]]
|[[October 1]] [[2008]]
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According to an interview with Lewis Black on [[Opie and Anthony|The Opie & Anthony Show]] on 06/03/2008, the legal department of Comedy Central rejected an episode that would have put [[Scientology]] against [[Disney]], however, it is clear that that decision was changed. Scientology is notorious for litigation against any form of media criticism. An episode on [[Marriage]] vs. [[Death]] was also rejected.
REPLY:
Thanks for the support.
* [[Historicity]]: Wikipedia has an article on it, which gives the meaning "the quality of being part of history as opposed to being a historical myth or legend" and articles [[Historicity of the Iliad]], [[Historicity (Bible Studies)]], [[Historicity of Jesus]] and [[Historicity of Muhammad]] exist on wiki.--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 07:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
* "Is it common in Indian English to space the initials of people's names?": Sorry, i could not properly understand. What i was available to understand is, e.g. V. P. Chavan should be V.P. Chavan. Right? Indian English mostly follows the first style.
* Epithet: It is used as "A term used as a descriptive substitute for the name or title of a person". changed to "epithet for".--[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 07:49, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


==Reception==
'''Support'''. My earlier lengthy comments are on the article's talk page and were all sufficiently answered/satisfied by the author. The author has picked a difficult topic, that of a regional deity, and brought out nicely its evolution theories without regionalising the subject. The plausible influence of other cults and faiths on the development of this worship and that of this deity on neighbouring socio-religions movements (such as the [[Haridasa]] movement) has also been dealt with well. In all, a good job.[[User:Dineshkannambadi|Dineshkannambadi]] ([[User talk:Dineshkannambadi|talk]]) 11:56, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Before the first episode was broadcast, Brian Lowry in ''[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]]'' attacked the show, saying that the comedians on it were "Second-tier", the set "resembles a cut-rate version of ''[[The Weakest Link]]'' set," and that "Comedy Central's programming usually falls squarely into the sublime or the ridiculous, so consider ''Root of All Evil'' a rare tweener in terms of quality -- one that proves a whole lot of Black is preferable, albeit marginally, to a [[black hole]]."<ref>{{cite news|last=Lowry|first=Brian|url=http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117936450.html?categoryid=1264&cs=1|title=Lewis Black's Root of All Evil|publisher=''Variety''|date-2008-03-10|accessdate=2008-03-12}}</ref> Attracting about 2.3 million viewers, the debut episode of the show was the most-watched premiere episode of a Comedy Central series since the premiere episode of ''[[Chappelle's Show]]'' in 2003 and topped the demographics for male audiences aged 18 to 34.<ref>{{cite news|last=Eggerton|first=John|title=Comedy Central: Black Is In for Summer|url=http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/CA6562909.html?rssid=193|work=Broadcasting & Cable|date=2008-05-21|accessdate=2008-05-23}}</ref>
:Thanks for the support. [[Talk:Vithoba#comments]]: Link to [[User:Dineshkannambadi|Dineshkannambadi]]'s comments on Vithoba talk, for reference. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|Redtigerxyz]] ([[User talk:Redtigerxyz|talk]]) 12:36, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Mark Dawidziak of ''[[The Plain Dealer (newspaper)|The Plain Dealer]]'' wrote in his review of the show that, "I'm a sucker for a good Lewis rant, and sometimes ''Root of All Evil'' would benefit from more Lewis fomenting and less formula. For as long as it's around, though, it does make a good fit with a Comedy Central lineup that includes [[Jon Stewart]], [[Stephen Colbert]], [[Sarah Silverman]] and, of course, ''[[South Park]]''."<ref>{{cite news|last=Dawidziak|first=Mark|url=http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/entertainment-0/1205310736327040.xml&coll=2|title=Lewis Black's Root of All Evil a good match for still-sharp South Park|publisher=''The Plain Dealer''|date=2008-03-12|accessdate=2008-03-12}}</ref>

==References==
{{Reflist}}

== External links ==
*[http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/04/19/comedy-central-picks-up-root-of-all-evil-pilot/ Comedy Central picks up Root of All Evil pilot]
*[http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/cc_insider/2007/04/lewis_blacks_ne.html Lewis Black's New Pilot Picked Up Here]
*[http://tv.ign.com/articles/825/825095p1.html Comedy Central Gets Angry With Lewis Black]

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Lewis Black's Root of All Evil
Created byScott Carter
David Sacks
StarringLewis Black
Country of origin United States
No. of seasons1
No. of episodes18
Production
Running time30 Minutes
Original release
NetworkComedy Central
ReleaseMarch 12, 2008 –
present

Lewis Black's Root of All Evil is an American television series that premiered on Comedy Central on March 12, 2008, starring comedian Lewis Black. The show is produced by Real Time With Bill Maher producer Scott Carter and The Simpsons writer David Sacks.

The show is in mock trial format, featuring Black presiding over two people or issues going against each other like defendants and plaintiffs in a trial, with a series of comedians and guests, such as Kathleen Madigan, Greg Giraldo, Andy Daly, Paul F. Tompkins, and Patton Oswalt, playing lawyers making their case why something (e.g. YouTube, beer, Oprah, PETA etc.) is the "root of all evil."

Field pieces are all directed by Supervising Producer, Michael Addis.

Format

Each show begins with Lewis Black welcoming the viewer to his courtroom and declares who the two candidates for 'root of all evil' will be with a trademark "Which is the root of all evillllllllllll?" After the introduction finishes Black gives a brief history of each of the candidates and introduces the two advocates. He then chooses one of them to start his/her opening statement which is then followed by the other advocate's opening statement. After this Black asks the advocates to present their case for their respective evil. Like the opening statements these mostly consist of oral arguments occasionally featuring previously filmed video 'evidence'. After both advocates finish Black begins his inquisition where he takes turns asking the advocates questions regarding their evil. Most of the time these questions relate to the good or usefulness of the 'evil' or questions that attempt to point out that the other candidate is more evil. After this Black asks the advocates to predict what would happen if their evil continued to grow and be successful in their "Ripple of Evil". The Ripple of Evils usually use absurd and comedic logic and are generally very silly, although they are spoken in a serious tone. After this Black asks the advocates for closing arguments, then asks for the audience's opinion (which he almost never agrees with) and then ends the show with his final verdict along with the loser's sentence.

Advocates

The advocates are the people who put forward their cases regarding whether or not a certain person, location, or thing is the "root of all evil." The advocates and their win-loss records are:[1]

Advocate Wins Losses Poll Wins Poll Losses
Andrew Daly 4 2 2 4
Andy Kindler 3 1 1 3
Patton Oswalt* 3 2 3 3
Kathleen Madigan 2 1 1 2
Greg Giraldo 2 7 6 3
Paul F. Tompkins* 1 4 3 3
Jerry Minor 1 0 1 0
Andrea Savage 1 0 1 0
Neither Oswalt or Tompkins were declared winners in the case of Red States v. Blue States-instead, Black declared that the root of all evil was Puerto Rico.  Therefore, the results were not counted in the official win column.  However, the audience poll result declared Red States the root of all evil, and results were counted in the audience poll columns.

Episodes

Season 1

Episode Advocate 1 Advocate 2 Root of All Evil Viewer Poll Winner Air Date
1 Paul F. Tompkins - Oprah Greg Giraldo - Catholic Church Oprah Catholic Church March 122008
2 Andy Kindler - Donald Trump Greg Giraldo - Viagra Donald Trump Viagra March 192008
3 Paul F. Tompkins - Weed Andrew Daly - Beer Beer Weed March 262008
4 Patton Oswalt - YouTube Greg Giraldo - Porn YouTube YouTube April 22008
5 Greg Giraldo - Paris Hilton Patton Oswalt - Dick Cheney Dick Cheney Paris Hilton April 92008
6 Patton Oswalt - High School Andy Kindler - American Idol American Idol High School April 162008
7 Kathleen Madigan - Kim Jong-il Greg Giraldo - Tila Tequila Kim Jong-il Tila Tequila April 232008
8 Andrew Daly - Las Vegas Patton Oswalt - The Human Body Las Vegas Las Vegas April 302008

Season 2

Episode Advocate 1 Advocate 2 Root of All Evil Viewer Poll Winner Air Date
9 Andrew Daly - Ultimate Fighting Patton Oswalt - Bloggers Bloggers Bloggers July 302008
10 Greg Giraldo - Steroids Andrew Daly - Boob Jobs Boob Jobs Steroids August 62008
11 Andrew Daly - Olympic Games Greg Giraldo - Drinking Games Drinking Games Drinking Games August 13 2008
12 Andy Kindler - NRA Paul F. Tompkins - PETA NRA PETA August 20 2008
13 Paul F. Tompkins - Red States Patton Oswalt - Blue States Puerto Rico Red States August 27 2008
14 Kathleen Madigan - Disney Andy Kindler - Scientology Disney Scientology September 3 2008
15 Greg Giraldo - Going Green Andrea Savage - Spring Break Spring Break Spring Break September 10 2008
16 Paul F. Tompkins - Gen X Andrew Daly - Boomers Boomers Boomers September 17 2008
17 Greg Giraldo - Strip Clubs Kathleen Madigan - Sororities Strip Clubs Sororities September 24 2008
18 Jerry Minor - The Hills Paul F. Tompkins - Rocket Scientists The Hills The Hills October 1 2008

According to an interview with Lewis Black on The Opie & Anthony Show on 06/03/2008, the legal department of Comedy Central rejected an episode that would have put Scientology against Disney, however, it is clear that that decision was changed. Scientology is notorious for litigation against any form of media criticism. An episode on Marriage vs. Death was also rejected.

Reception

Before the first episode was broadcast, Brian Lowry in Variety attacked the show, saying that the comedians on it were "Second-tier", the set "resembles a cut-rate version of The Weakest Link set," and that "Comedy Central's programming usually falls squarely into the sublime or the ridiculous, so consider Root of All Evil a rare tweener in terms of quality -- one that proves a whole lot of Black is preferable, albeit marginally, to a black hole."[2] Attracting about 2.3 million viewers, the debut episode of the show was the most-watched premiere episode of a Comedy Central series since the premiere episode of Chappelle's Show in 2003 and topped the demographics for male audiences aged 18 to 34.[3]

Mark Dawidziak of The Plain Dealer wrote in his review of the show that, "I'm a sucker for a good Lewis rant, and sometimes Root of All Evil would benefit from more Lewis fomenting and less formula. For as long as it's around, though, it does make a good fit with a Comedy Central lineup that includes Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Sarah Silverman and, of course, South Park."[4]

References

  1. ^ "Prosecutors". Comedy Central. Retrieved 2008-09-09.
  2. ^ Lowry, Brian. "Lewis Black's Root of All Evil". Variety. Retrieved 2008-03-12. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help); Text "date-2008-03-10" ignored (help)
  3. ^ Eggerton, John (2008-05-21). "Comedy Central: Black Is In for Summer". Broadcasting & Cable. Retrieved 2008-05-23.
  4. ^ Dawidziak, Mark (2008-03-12). "Lewis Black's Root of All Evil a good match for still-sharp South Park". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved 2008-03-12. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)

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