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If anyone objects to adding in the "source" and author thereof for each winning screenplay, speak now or forever hold your peace. [[User:209.149.235.254|209.149.235.254]] 22:29, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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If anyone objects to adding in the "source" and author thereof for each winning screenplay, speak now or forever hold your peace. [[User:209.149.235.254|209.149.235.254]] 22:29, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC) |
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:No objection at all. I did some but got distracted onto other things, and never got back to finish it. Good luck! [[User:Eclecticology|Eclecticology]] 00:58, 2004 Mar 23 (UTC) |
:No objection at all. I did some but got distracted onto other things, and never got back to finish it. Good luck! [[User:Eclecticology|Eclecticology]] 00:58, 2004 Mar 23 (UTC) |
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==Borat.== |
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Maybe to clear up Borat since it's based on a character(if I have the details right) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:LadySatine|LadySatine]] ([[User talk:LadySatine|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LadySatine|contribs]]) 2007-01-26t01:51:32z</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> |
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==Table?== |
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!Screenplay by |
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|'''[[2005 in film|2005]] |
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|'''[[78th Academy Awards|78th]] |
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|'''''[[Brokeback Mountain]]''''' |
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|'''[[Larry McMurtry]] and [[Diana Ossana]]''' |
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|''[[Brokeback Mountain (short story)|Brokeback Mountain]]'', a short story by [[E. Annie Proulx]] |
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|2005 |
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|''[[A History of Violence (film)|A History of Violence]]'' |
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|[[Josh Olson]] |
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|''[[A History of Violence]]'', a [[graphic novel]] by [[John Wagner]] and [[Vince Locke]] |
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|2005 |
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|''[[Capote (film)|Capote]]'' |
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|[[Dan Futterman]] |
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|''[[Capote (biography)|Capote]]'', a biography by [[Gerald Clarke (writer)|Gerald Clarke]] |
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|2005 |
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|''[[The Constant Gardener (film)|The Constant Gardener]]'' |
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|[[Jeffrey Caine]] |
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|''[[The Constant Gardener]]'', a novel by [[John le Carré]] |
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|2005 |
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|''[[Munich (film)|Munich]]'' |
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|[[Tony Kushner]] and [[Eric Roth]] |
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|''[[Vengeance: The True Story of an Israeli Counter-Terrorist Team]]'', a book by [[George Jonas]] |
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|'''[[2006 in film|2006]]''' |
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|'''[[79th Academy Awards|79th]]''' |
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|'''''[[The Departed]]''''' |
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|'''[[William Monahan]]''' |
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|''[[Infernal Affairs]]'', a Hong Kong film by [[Felix Chong]] and [[Alan Mak]]. |
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|2006 |
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|''[[Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan]]'' |
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|[[Sacha Baron Cohen]], [[Peter Baynham]], Anthony Hines, [[Dan Mazer]], and [[Todd Phillips]] |
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|''[[Da Ali G Show]]'' TV series. |
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|2006 |
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|''[[Children of Men]]'' |
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|[[Alfonso Cuarón]], Timothy J. Sexton, David Arata, Mark Fergus, and Hawk Ostby |
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|''[[The Children of Men]]'', a novel by [[P. D. James]]. |
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|2006 |
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|''[[Little Children (film)|Little Children]]'' |
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|[[Todd Field]] and [[Tom Perrotta]] |
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|''[[Little Children (novel)|Little Children]]'', a novel by Tom Perrotta |
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|2006 |
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|''[[Notes on a Scandal (film)|Notes on a Scandal]]'' |
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|[[Patrick Marber]] |
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|''[[Notes on a Scandal]]'', a novel by [[Zoë Heller]]. |
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Like [[List of Academy Award winners and nominees for Best Foreign Language Film]]? -- [[User:Jeandré du Toit|Jeandré]], 2007-12-29[[User talk:Jeandré du Toit|t]]10:04z |
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== Suggestion == |
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The books Crossfire: the Plot that Killed Kennedy & On the Trail of the Assassins are NOT novels but non-fiction books and should be listed as such. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.10.92.186|67.10.92.186]] ([[User talk:67.10.92.186|talk]]) 01:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== what is the award really for? == |
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The article doesn't address how this award is supposed to be judged. Is it intended to reward the film that is best-written (from among the nominees)? Or, is it intended to reward the screenwriter who was the most talented at adapting the film? So for example, let's say there's a movie that everyone recognizes as having the most ingenious plotting and dialogue of any movie ever made, but the movie was adapted from a play without changing very much, the play was already so good that the screenwriter hardly did any work, but then there's another nominee in the category where the movie is based on a great novel that everybody always believed to be unfilmable but then the screenwriter found a way to adapt it into a great movie such that the process of adaptation was clearly ingenious although the final script judged by itself as a script was merely great, not excellent. [[User:Mathew5000|Mathew5000]] ([[User talk:Mathew5000|talk]]) 03:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC) |
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*The Academy rules don't include any guidelines about what they have in mind in those respects. It is up to the voters to decide what they are looking for in an adapted screenplay. It's probably relevant to your question that they nominated the Kenneth Branagh adaptation of ''Hamlet'', for which he used the full text of the play -- but it wasn't as absurd as it sounds. I've seen the published Branagh screenplay, and he wrote new stage directions for practically every line of the play. --[[User:Metropolitan90|Metropolitan90]] [[User talk:Metropolitan90|(talk)]] 17:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC) |
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== Requested move == |
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The result of the move request was: '''moved'''. -- [[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 00:39, 27 April 2014 (UTC) |
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[[:Academy Award for Best Writing (Adapted Screenplay)]] → {{no redirect|Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay}} – This is the actual title of the award. The current title is not official and makes no sense. [[User:JDDJS|JDDJS]] ([[User talk:JDDJS|talk]]) 05:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' moving as proposed. [[User:WPGA2345|<span style="color:white;"><span style="text-shadow:gray 5px 5px 5px; background:#DC143C">''''' - WPGA2345 - '''''</span></span>]][[User talk:WPGA2345|<span style="color:black;"><big><big><span style="background:#ffffff">☛</span></big></big></span>]] 01:12, 20 April 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' while we don't need to use WP:OFFICIALNAMES I think it makes sense here since the current title does not in fact make sense.--[[Special:Contributions/67.70.140.89|67.70.140.89]] ([[User talk:67.70.140.89|talk]]) 19:19, 21 April 2014 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' avoid disambiguation in parenthesis per [[WP:NATURALDIS]] |
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==Move discussion in progress== |
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There is a move discussion in progress on [[Talk:Academy Awards#Requested move 4 April 2015 |Talk:Academy Awards]] which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. <!-- Talk:Academy Awards crosspost --> —[[User:RMCD bot|RMCD bot]] 13:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC) |
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== Merge proposal == |
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This article is tagged for merging with [[Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay]], but there doesn't appear to be any proposal outlining the rationale on either talk page. What would be the benefit of arbitrarily lumping together two separate awards, both of which already have very long articles? [[User:Ribbet32|Ribbet32]] ([[User talk:Ribbet32|talk]]) 01:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC) |
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== The 3rd and 21st Academy Awards == |
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It seems that there were two years when original and adapted screenplays were lumped under the same award: 1929/30 (the 3rd awards) and 1948 (the 21st awards). An original screenplay won in 1929/30, and an adapted screenplay won in 1948. As it stands, we're not treating the two anomaly years in the same way, and I think we should. The 1929/30 award is listed on the Adapted Screenplay page (even though the winner was not adapted); it does not appear on the Original Screenplay page at all. By contrast, the 1948 award appears (without a note) on the Adapted Screenplay page and appears with an N/A nominee list on the Original Screenplay page. |
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My hunch is that the two anomaly years should appear in full on both pages, but the winner should be marked with a special diacritic (separate from the normal ‡) which indicates "winner of an award with both original and adapted screenplays as nominees." Thoughts? [[User:Johanna|<font color="#c41500">''Johanna''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Johanna|<font color="6d5a24">'''(talk to me!)'''</font>]]</sup> 02:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Untitled[edit]
If anyone objects to adding in the "source" and author thereof for each winning screenplay, speak now or forever hold your peace. 209.149.235.254 22:29, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- No objection at all. I did some but got distracted onto other things, and never got back to finish it. Good luck! Eclecticology 00:58, 2004 Mar 23 (UTC)
Borat.[edit]
Maybe to clear up Borat since it's based on a character(if I have the details right) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LadySatine (talk • contribs) 2007-01-26t01:51:32z
Table?[edit]
Like List of Academy Award winners and nominees for Best Foreign Language Film? -- Jeandré, 2007-12-29t10:04z
Suggestion[edit]
The books Crossfire: the Plot that Killed Kennedy & On the Trail of the Assassins are NOT novels but non-fiction books and should be listed as such. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.10.92.186 (talk) 01:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
what is the award really for?[edit]
The article doesn't address how this award is supposed to be judged. Is it intended to reward the film that is best-written (from among the nominees)? Or, is it intended to reward the screenwriter who was the most talented at adapting the film? So for example, let's say there's a movie that everyone recognizes as having the most ingenious plotting and dialogue of any movie ever made, but the movie was adapted from a play without changing very much, the play was already so good that the screenwriter hardly did any work, but then there's another nominee in the category where the movie is based on a great novel that everybody always believed to be unfilmable but then the screenwriter found a way to adapt it into a great movie such that the process of adaptation was clearly ingenious although the final script judged by itself as a script was merely great, not excellent. Mathew5000 (talk) 03:00, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
- The Academy rules don't include any guidelines about what they have in mind in those respects. It is up to the voters to decide what they are looking for in an adapted screenplay. It's probably relevant to your question that they nominated the Kenneth Branagh adaptation of Hamlet, for which he used the full text of the play -- but it wasn't as absurd as it sounds. I've seen the published Branagh screenplay, and he wrote new stage directions for practically every line of the play. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 17:54, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
Requested move[edit]
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: moved. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 00:39, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Academy Award for Best Writing (Adapted Screenplay) → Academy Award for Best Adapted Screenplay – This is the actual title of the award. The current title is not official and makes no sense. JDDJS (talk) 05:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
- Support moving as proposed. - WPGA2345 - ☛ 01:12, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Support while we don't need to use WP:OFFICIALNAMES I think it makes sense here since the current title does not in fact make sense.--67.70.140.89 (talk) 19:19, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- Support avoid disambiguation in parenthesis per WP:NATURALDIS
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Move discussion in progress[edit]
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Academy Awards which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
Merge proposal[edit]
This article is tagged for merging with Academy Award for Best Original Screenplay, but there doesn't appear to be any proposal outlining the rationale on either talk page. What would be the benefit of arbitrarily lumping together two separate awards, both of which already have very long articles? Ribbet32 (talk) 01:40, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
The 3rd and 21st Academy Awards[edit]
It seems that there were two years when original and adapted screenplays were lumped under the same award: 1929/30 (the 3rd awards) and 1948 (the 21st awards). An original screenplay won in 1929/30, and an adapted screenplay won in 1948. As it stands, we're not treating the two anomaly years in the same way, and I think we should. The 1929/30 award is listed on the Adapted Screenplay page (even though the winner was not adapted); it does not appear on the Original Screenplay page at all. By contrast, the 1948 award appears (without a note) on the Adapted Screenplay page and appears with an N/A nominee list on the Original Screenplay page.
My hunch is that the two anomaly years should appear in full on both pages, but the winner should be marked with a special diacritic (separate from the normal ‡) which indicates "winner of an award with both original and adapted screenplays as nominees." Thoughts? Johanna(talk to me!) 02:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
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