16-17 (band)
| 16-17 | |
|---|---|
 Last line-up of Taktlos 1995 |
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| General information | |
| origin | Switzerland |
| Genre (s) | Jazzcore , industrial punk jazz |
| founding | 1983 |
| resolution | 1999 |
| Founding members | |
| Alex Buess | |
| Markus Kneubühler | |
| Knut Remond | |
| Last occupation | |
saxophone |
Alex Buess |
Drums |
Michael Wertmüller |
Electric bass |
Damian Bennett |
16-17 was a Swiss experimental band whose music can be assigned to the jazz core genre . 16-17 considered an early precursor of this often referred to as Industrial punk - jazz designated genre.
history
16-17 was founded in 1983 by Alex Buess and Knut Remond. Later the guitarist and electronics technician Markus Kneubühler joined as a third regular member. The group was way ahead of its time and received mixed, controversial responses from the audience for their uncompromising play. At the time when the first concerts with this explosive mixture of improvised music, heavily amplified instruments and electronics played the first concerts, there were no groups with a similar sound. Only a few years later, about 1989 then groups emerged as John Zorn's Painkiller , Last Exit with Peter Brötzmann , Bill Laswell , Sonny Sharrock and Ronald Shannon Jackson , God or the Flying Luttenbachers with Weasel Walter , which has a similar mix of rugged Noise with electrical amplification, electronics and free jazz inspired improvisation. From 1983 to 1994, 16-17 played many live concerts. Three of the four officially existing records come from this period: the cassette Buffbunker und Hardkore , the LP 16-17 (released on RecRec) and the LP When All Else Fails (Label: Vision).
The group’s first three productions are all live recordings. In 1994 Alex Buess met Kevin Martin while recording the group Alboth! about their CD Liebefeld : Alex Buess was involved in the Alboth! production as a guest saxophonist and Kevin Martin as producer. This first meeting between Martin and Buess was very fruitful: the two hit it off perfectly. Kevin Martin followed a similar path with his band God. As a result, 16-17 brought out the first studio production called Gyatso . It was produced by Kevin Martin and the guest was the Godflesh bassist GC Green. Kevin Martin said about this collaboration in an interview with Jason Pettigrew ( Alternative Press ) for the booklet text of the CD Gyatso : “I really liked the intensity of 16-17's early recordings and wanted the intensity of the group through extensive use from studio technology. ”He succeeded: The CD received a lot of attention from the international press and the public. 16-17 is mentioned, for example, in the book Hell Noise: The Complete Merciless and Unique History of Heavy Metal by Ian Christie as a representative of Grindcore and Alternative Metal. He writes: "... the Swiss Grindcore band sponsored by Apple Computer replaces the guitars with saxophones ..."
After the production of Gyatso there were some line-up changes: instead of Markus Kneubühler came the Australian bassist Damian Bennett (Deathless) and Michael Wertmüller (Full Blast) played drums instead of Knut Remond. In this new formation, 16-17 toured across Europe. The idea of presenting the sound of the Gyatso CD live matured and was then implemented consistently. A performance from 16-17 in connection with the Carte Blanche project NOL-NS at the Taktlos Festival 1995 was one of the highlights of 16-17 with the new sound. Followed in 1999 with Human Distortion another EP on Alec Empire DHR label and Mechanophobia again an EP on practice. 16-17 then toured extensively with this program as "16-17 Soundsystem". Daniel Buess (MIR, My Daily Noise, Noise Zone) was on the drums. In 1999 the group disbanded.
The 16-17 productions were difficult to obtain for a long time. In 2006, however, the Lyon-based label Savageland Records brought out the first three productions remastered by Weasel Walter as a CD box called Early Recordings and a new edition of the studio album Gyatso .
Discography
- 1984: Buffbunker & Hardkore (cassette, Calypso Now)
- 1986: 16-17 (LP, Rec Rec)
- 1989: When All Else Fails (LP, Vision)
- 1993: Gyatso (CD, Pathological / Big Cat GB)
- 1998: Human Distortion (CD & EP, DHR)
- 1999: Mechanophobia (EP, practice)
- 2005: Early Recordings (CD box, new and remastered version of the first three productions on CD, Savageland Records)
- 2006: Gyatso (CD, new and remastered version with new cover and liner notes by Jason Pettigrew from Alternative Press)
- 2020: Phantom Limb (LP with previously unreleased material from 1995, released on the Vienna label TROST)
literature
- Hell noise: The Complete, Relentless, Unique History of Heavy Metal, ISBN 978-3-85445-241-6 .
- 16-17, interview with Alex Buess in the French magazine REVUE ET CORRIGEE, issue no.22, 1994.
Web links
Individual evidence
- ↑ http://www.cosmicsonline.com/
- ↑ http://www.discogs.com/Alboth-Liebefeld/release/1046529
- ↑ - ( Memento of the original from July 2, 2016 in the Internet Archive ) Info: The archive link was inserted automatically and has not yet been checked. Please check the original and archive link according to the instructions and then remove this notice.
- ↑ http://www.savagelandrecords.com/
