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'''Request:''' I'd like to see this converted using a better quality map of Arabia that we have on Wikipedia into an SVG. This would remove a tenuous fair use and we could use that image as a source for the locations. -- [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] [[User talk:Grenavitar|グレン]] 00:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
'''Request:''' I'd like to see this converted using a better quality map of Arabia that we have on Wikipedia into an SVG. This would remove a tenuous fair use and we could use that image as a source for the locations. -- [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] [[User talk:Grenavitar|グレン]] 00:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think I might give this a shot, but what you do mean by ''"better quality map of Arabia"'' ? A higher resolution? A more detailed map? better representation using icons? [[User: auawise|<font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int;</font>]][[User:auawise|<font color="red">Wi</font>]][[User:auawise|<font color="gray">se</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Auawise|Operibus anteire]])</small></sup> 17:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
:I think I might give this a shot, but what you do mean by ''"better quality map of Arabia"'' ? A higher resolution? A more detailed map? better representation using icons? [[User: auawise|<font size="2.5" color="blue">&Lambda;ua&int;</font>]][[User:auawise|<font color="red">Wi</font>]][[User:auawise|<font color="gray">se</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:Auawise|Operibus anteire]])</small></sup> 17:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
::Such as [http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/saudi_arabia_pol_2003.jpg this map] from [http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/saudi_arabia.html this page] (US gov). Taking a more detailed map like that using Mecca as a basis point if it would be possible to at least make a higher resolution version (vectorizing if you want...) I don't care about color scheme or whatnot as long as it's usable. I think that map looks decen it's just small. The nice thing about SVG would be it would make it relatively easy to change the color scheme to match other maps from the page which in an ideal article would have some coordination. [[User:Grenavitar|gren]] [[User talk:Grenavitar|グレン]] 08:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
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Coats of Arms of Algeria

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 – NMajdantalk 16:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s):Emblem of Algeria

Request: I created the second image and I'm not very satisfied with the result... Could someone please make it look more like the first image? And now something quite more difficult: Can some vectorize the images 3, 4, and 5? (image no. 4 is the same as no. 3, except that the background is white) Thanks a lot! -- escondites 11:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: But on Image:Algeria emb (1976).gif the license specifically says: vector versions are not permitted, and you are asking it be converted to scalable vector graphic ? This is just not logical. Jackaranga (talk) 15:31, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To speak to the tag-it means that the image specifically from that website may not be used in vector form, as they sell those, so you can't get them free here. However it does not say we cannot redraw it from the base up as a usable wikifriendly version. The images website does not hold the copyrights for the design itself, the Algerian government does. Chris (クリス) (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for bringing the images in, Escondites, Redrawing the images in vector for would be allowed. [2] Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 20:07, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll have a go at them. Jackaranga (talk) 20:39, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I hope you're right about them being free, and not copyright restricted by the Algerian government though, it seems the source may have in fact copied the images from the internet without much thought of copyright. Also see http://www.fotw.us/flags/dz).html some appear slightly different on that page. Jackaranga (talk) 20:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the FOTW website here shows a version with blue background, but also states that the website of the Algerian embassy to the UN shows again the white one, so it is the right one (and as an Algerian, I have to say that I've never seen a blue version of our emblem). However, I'm sure it is useful to the Wikigraphist to take a look at it as it is larger as the one here. BTW: The text on emblem no. 3 and 4 is Arabic and is:

الجمهورية الجزائرية الديمقراطية الشعبية

and the one on the first emblem is

ج

. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Escondites (talkcontribs) 09:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm working on the one with the blue background, it's coming, don't worry it's just tedious drawing all the grains and leaves. Here is this one for the now. Jackaranga (talk) 18:24, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks nice till now, , you did an awesome job on vectorizing these tiny bitmaps! (I did some minor changes to these images, I know it must have been a tough job for you to "draw" Arabic) And can please you make the brown hand of Fatima having more symetrical fingers? BTW: During the alterations I did, the star and crescrent got in the BG, can you fix it? TIA. --escondites 17:33, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've been pretty busy at work lately, I will put the elements back in the right order, but I was wondering why you changed the sun, it doesn't look much like the one in the png image now. Also I think it's deliberate the hand is not symmetrical, but I will try copying the one from the 1971 insignia across and see how it looks. Jackaranga (talk) 23:28, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More Zimbabwean Coats of Arms

Article(s): Bulawayo, Chitungwiza, Mutare, Gweru, Marondera, Zimbabwe, MDC

Request: To make SVG versions of the above images. Its a lot to ask and if it can't be done, it can't be done. The flags can be made using the coats of arms once an SVG has been made for them so no need to make the COAs twice. The writing on the Chitungwiza Banner should read Pamberi Nekushandria Pamwe. The Bulawayo flag is the Bulwayo COA on a blue bkgd. It looks different in the image above but use the image as in the COA as this is the proper version. SVG Zimbabwe COA and enlarge for clarity if possible. Many thanks Mangwanani (talk) 17:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

  • OK, the MDC flag was easy. Some of these coats of arms, however, are at a low resolution—I'm concerned about losing detail if we try to vectorize them. That may just be me, though :) Why is the Chitungwiza COA tagged as a logo? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of them are tagged as logos probably because when I uploaded them I couldn't find the right tag. To be fair they are logos in a sense... I thought the low resolution may be a problem but if it can't be done, it can't be done. The Bulawayo one is of a high resolution and the flag for it can be made by sticking the logo onto a blue background. The flag that is shown above for the Blwo flag I don't think is right as I never remember seeing the flag with a logo like that so I would stick to the logo shown as I got that off official documentation. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Sorry I keep adding to it but it would be great if they could all be done. Mangwanani (talk) 19:46, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Don't apologize :) I'll list those already done below. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 10:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Could the colours for the Air Force flag be a bit darker? More of a teal and a navy? Mangwanani (talk) 17:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I used the color approximations listed at the Commons' Pantone approximation chart for British flag colours, they would look a bit different than those used in the GIF. They'll look closer to what you expect depending on monitor settings—for instance, if I set the color temperature of my LCD display to 6500K, the Air Force ensign looks teal, and if I set it to 9300K, the flag looks sort of a sky blue. The colors I chose are used by most SVGs of British-style ensigns, which makes for more consistency across articles; I can change them if you'd like, though. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:25, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • No its fine if theres a standard way of doing it. I'm still new to all this but you have a way of working which works so I shall try not to interefere! I still don't know about the Rhodesian flag and COA which was done some time back. I still think the COA looks too green... Mangwanani (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok, so the flags were deleted before you could make SVG versions of them. However, all the flags/COAs I listed can be found here [3]. Thanks. Mangwanani (talk) 17:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Argh—I should have downloaded them first, I only got the Marondera COA and flag. Oh well, FOTW it is. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You'll have to get them from FotW now, Commons dropped the bomb on us! 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:02, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone should go there and administer a good Whacking with a Wet Trout. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 04:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I added an older insignia to the airforce collection. It seems most of the examples I saw had a ratio of 1:2. Is this generally correct for this type of flag? aliasd·U·T 04:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
FOUL, TIME OUT, WHOA!!! jackaranga, why are you not tagging these with the proper {{Non-free symbol}} tag? That's what it's there for, and it's a lot less deletionist and confrontational than tagging them for deletion. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Has any more progress been made with these images before Commons remove them all? Mangwanani (talk) 17:31, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but not really. I've been out of commission lately—rather, my computer has. Again, I apologize. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 10:16, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Added one of my own SVGs. The spear probably needs tyding up a tad... Mangwanani (talk) 16:21, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map of the Battle of Kostiuchnówka

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 – NMajdantalk 16:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Battle of Kostiuchnówka

Request: I have translated a Polish map but it was deleted due to being a replaceable fair use. Leaving aside the fact that the original I scanned was published in a rare newspaper and there are no other maps of the battle I am aware, nor mentions of it (so an individual who would want to make a map would have to start from scratch, most likely), I have reuploaded it off-site here. I hope that somebody can use it to create a free variant. PS. Translation of few items I was unable to do on the old map: 'Polski Lasek' - Polish Forest, 'Polska Góra' - Polish Hill, 'Brygada' - Brigade. -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 00:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Piotr, would you object if the map view was from above rather than the side as it is now? Even rotating the image that way would make it our own, and closer to not having to worry about copyright. Let me know what you think. Krzyzszek Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:18, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Of course I would not object. It sounds like a good plan, but wouldn't just rotating be a derivative work/modification? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 17:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so, let me ask Sagredo. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:14, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PFLP flag

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 – NMajdantalk 16:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): PFLP

Request: This was, possibly, made into an SVG from this image which has a slightly messed up circle because of low resolution. I'd like anyone fluent in SVG editing to make a smooth circle of the same width so that it won't look so odd when scaled. Should be relatively easy. Thanks -- gren グレン 06:39, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'm gonna try now. ----Seans Potato Business 11:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Operation halted: Is this an official version? The flag already detracts in a few ways from this. Would it be better to start over? ----Seans Potato Business 11:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I think the answer is neither... or both... or all. http://www.pflp.ps/english/ I would imagine the flag in the banner is close to official but if you look at http://www.pflp.ps/img/martyrs/martyrs.jpg you see a version without the notch on the upper left. My guess would be that there is an acceptable amount of variation but I think the one in the banner on the website might be ideal.
this might be more accurate and I think this one might be reliable because it's actually a printed flag... but I'm not sure if that is an official event and I had seen a different flag which actually included Arabic text. gren グレン 12:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you can contact the organisation and ask them for an official SVG? Until then, I've simplified it (the simplify function removes nodes - you can read about it in the Inkscape 'advanced' tutorial; press Shift + S to try it out). It meant moving the arrow in place manually, so you might want to inspect it yourself. The circle still isn't perfect, but it's hopefully a bit better. Maybe a better tactic would be to re-create the whole circle but that doesn't help much with the semi-circle inside. --Seans Potato Business 12:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure how I'd contact them... and, well, being designated a terrorist organization by the U.S. makes that particularly unwise. Thank you for your work and the circle does look better. gren グレン 06:15, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another world population chart

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 – NMajdantalk 16:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): World population

Request: Any way to visually improve this chart would be appreciated. -- Rmhermen (talk) 01:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

For instance? Color? Date milestones? What have you in mind? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps use a log scale on vertical axis to convey more detail? --IPiAweKid (talk) 06:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We could also zoom it in to make information appear better. Currently you can just see some "noise" in the right-bottom corner. Of course this would lead to some missing years, but there didn't really happen anything before year 2000 BC. --Henrikb4 (talk) 13:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Map of Harare

Article(s):Harare

Request: Possible conversion to SVG format? Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 17:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Not meaning to be rude, but I have noticed often with your files you say self-made, when in fact you have just taken it from somewhere else, in this case http://www.propertylink.co.zw/map.cfm, I urge people to exert caution, that you don't spend time making something that will be deleted later as a copyvio. Jackaranga (talk) 20:36, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the website owns the copyright for the map, it means we can't use the map as it, but if we use the map there and make a vector of our own using it as a model, it's not copyrighted by them AFAIK. --escondites 17:33, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is probably PD as the real estate company almost certainly modified a governtment map for their use. Not Protected - Works consisting entirely of information that is common property and containing no original authorship (for example: standard calendars, height and weight charts, tape measures and rulers, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common sources) Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 21:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In US law, maps of streets are PD as long as they are accurate. To copyright their maps, mapmakers invent roads that don't exist, or sometimes they intentionally misspell an uncommon road name. I know this because years ago my father's map-making company (the company later went under) was in a copyright dispute with Rand McNally. Usually the best thing to do is cross-reference two maps. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 06:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Phone companies also add nonexistant business to the phone books for the same reason. I spent a couple of evenings trying to find certain eatery in Kalispell, MT. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's funny! -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 11:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is anything able to be done to the image? Mangwanani (talk) 20:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's sitting totally ignored on WP:PUI... I have no idea. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted; should this be closed or thrown out? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:51, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh well, so much for that...Mangwanani (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Super Tuesday 2008 Maps

Article(s): Super Tuesday, Super Tuesday (2008), Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates

Request: These should be SVGified ASAP. These will be highly trafficked tonight and are particularly ugly PNGs at the moment. —Ben FrantzDale (talk) 01:22, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: This is close. D. C. was red when I found the map. Not sure I can get it to change. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 04:36, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sag old boy, on your new map (better colors, by the way!), I'm pretty sure Nova Scotia is sitting this one out. :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:20, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mention about half of those who could participate. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The first map is done. The other two have better quality and I suspect the original uploaders have copies of them in SVG form. I've put notes on their talk pages requesting that they upload the maps in that form. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 21:47, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Currently I am drawing the delegate cartogram on MS paint pixel-by-pixel, and streching into a photoshop file. I do not have an SVG. Maybe one can be made once the delegate voting is finished. I lack the ability to make or edit SVG at this moment. Does someone else want to step up to the plate? --- Rogsheng (talk) 21:48, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My concern is that I would have to edit it after every primary, and I don't want to be stuck doing that. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 11:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The first map did have bad quality, but the second two are fine IMO. The creators of those two maps seem interested in keeping them up to date, so at this point I see two sleeping dogs I think we can let lie. Let's mark it finished. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:06, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An SVG version of the primary results map has been made, but the creator of the map shown here continues to place the old one back on the page.--Ibagli rnbs (Talk) 03:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Royal coat of arms of Morocco

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 – NMajdantalk 16:32, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s):Many, see image description page.

Request:Can this be vectorized, please? TIA. -- escondites 18:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: It would be a good idea to find a version of the coat from the Moroccan government, as the image from Vector Images could vary from the correct version. As happened in the Indonesian COA above. 168.103.39.226 (talk) 00:41, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Asturian church floor plans

Article: Asturian architecture

Request: Since the layout of these churches is explicitely detailed in the article on Asturian architecture, I think there's value in saving these images from deletion. The designs themselves are ancient, so copyright shouldn't be an issue. The images are lo-rez, but could someone try to vectorize them? Thanks, ˉˉanetode╦╩ 06:16, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I boldly changed the copyright tags on them as I don't think they are eligible for copyrighting: They're exact representations of the building with no additional creative work (IE. The scale marking doesn't count, IMAO) and hence are not eligible for the copyright, nor is the scanner eligible per BvC. Obviously if this is incorrect you may revert me. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So the blueprint copyright would remain with the architect, now long gone. Works for me, thanks! ˉˉanetode╦╩ 16:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wait, so do you or don't you want these vectorized? I'm a little confused @ what exactly happened here, I just changed the copyright tag to what seemed more appropriate, I didn't make any changes to the images themselves. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Vectorization would still be appreciated, but at least now these images won't be deleted. ˉˉanetode╦╩ 00:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since that's the case, I've removed the resolved template, as that would just get it archived. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey

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 – NMajdantalk 16:33, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article: Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey

Request: Please create a map that portrays both the Aberdeen Township, Monmouth County and Old Bridge, Middlesex County portions of Cliffwood Beach, New Jersey. The current map only shows the Monmouth County portion. The area west of Whale Creek and east of Laurence Harbor, between Route 35 and the Raritan Bay, and bisected by Ocean Blvd, is Cliffwood Beach in Middlesex County. Even the small area south of Route 35 may be CB. -- Pat (talk) 07:21, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Ring circuit

Resolved
 – Markus Kuhn (talk) 20:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Ring circuit

Request: An SVG version would be nice -- Markus Kuhn (talk) 13:27, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Burning ship map

Article(s): M/S UND Adriyatik

Request: SVG-ification for legibility, if possible show a larger chunk of the Adriatic and country names so position is clearer? This is currently hardly legible, but the article is linked from ITN on the main page. -- Circeus (talk) 18:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'll do it. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 02:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC) Nevermind I thought the map of the Adriatic was SVG. I don't have the tools for this. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 02:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you open the png in Inkscape, draw on it, and then export the drawing as a png. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.42.172.193 (talk) 06:54, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Capital punishment request

Articels: Capital punishment and other related pages

Request: The current SVG is unfortunately very garish looking (IMAO) in colors and state labels. Could a new map be created, possibly showing the method(s)? Currently, I'm thinking of the following designations:

  • No provision for executions in state law
  • Declared unconstitutional (Functionally, no provision for executions)
  • Has not been used since Gregg
  • Actively used (Since Gregg) and the primary method

I know its probably a real tall order to integrate all of the methods into a colored map; so I'm thinking it may be better and easier to have a map of the 1st 5, and then a map of the method(s) of those states that have legal provisions on the books for it. Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Follow up: I should've done more research, see Image:Death penalty statutes in the United States.svg. Would removing the state text labels be better, for internationalization? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, per Image:Death penalty statutes in the united states.png, PR should be included as having none, or should we limit this to states only? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:08, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The colors are quite POV. I don't think I've ever seen black used on a map. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 23:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's been brought up before (They also make it near impossible to see the state lines). I prefer the colors in Image:Death penalty statutes in the United States.svg: Much less garish, and also used on many other types of maps (Image:Unibicameral Map.png, for instance). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also note (Sorry for all of this), the title of the 3rd image is erroneous: It purports to show the methods of the states, but in reality only mentions lethal injection. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoever added the image with the "neutral colors": I have no attachment to any of these color sets (Although I heartily dislike the pitch black v. bright green one), so you can pick more appropriate ones if you wish. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Shortened list so it's not so hard (Only 4 things now), so as to encourage help? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Waterboarding

Article(s): Waterboarding

Request: correct for perspective, reduce glass glare, and participate in the discussion about the need for this image at its AfD. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 20:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

:For the record, the debate is here: Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2008_February_8#Image:NonFreeImageRemoved.svg and seems to be very one sided right now. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:26, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vote has concluded in keep, will someone please do this? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I've done this one. Hope it looks nice. XcepticZP (talk) 18:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Logo of the ministry of Agriculture and Forestry of Laos

Article(s): Ministry of Agriculture and Forestry of Laos

Request: I'd appreciate if someone could clean up that logo and then convert it to SVG format. A big part of the logo is the same as on the Coat of arms of Laos. That's a good start! Thanks a lot! Emilaca (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

User:DTR did a great job on the Coat of arms of Laos, perhaps he could be persuaded to work his magic here again! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 10:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Chris (クリス • フィッチ)! But I've already asked User:DTR and he told me he would have been very happy to help me, but he's unfortunately too busy, so he can't do it. Thanks again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emilaca (talkcontribs) 13:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I had a small ounce of time to spare, so I made a rough start on the pic, but I'd prefer it if someone else could make the finishing touches. I took the Laos Coat of Arms and salvaged as much as I could, then added the new stuff. I had trouble with the people and animal (bull?) in the foreground, and with guessing which characters to use for the text (I left in the text from the COA for a guideline). See here for a scaled-up version and a link to the font used.
I also embedded the guide image, so that if anyone else would like to tidy up and refine then they have the original raster stretched to the same size and same ratio as I did. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 13:40, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, great job! I knew that the animal wouldn't be the easiest part of the job... But you did fine and the people are very nice. We'll see if someone can continue your wonderful work! Thanks again. Emilaca (talk) 12:02, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll finish it if somebody could give me the text so I don't have to trace it. DTR gave us the font, but my keyboard doesn't do that language, and I wouldn't know what keys to press if it did. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 02:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here is the text: ກະສິກຳ ແລະ ປ່າໄມ້. You can copy it and then paste it in your document. Then you have to put the text in an Unicode font (Saysettha Unicode, for example). If you have more questions or if you have another font like Saysettha 95 or Saysettha 2000, I can tell you which keys to press. Emilaca (talk) 11:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Still working out some kinks. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 06:54, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully it's good now. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 03:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bon travail! You did a great job on the small details. There are two things that "could" be improved: first, the kind of wheel (colour and size). The second thing, that I'm taking in charge, is the font. I have a lot here and I'll see if I can find a more suitable font that looks more like the original. Thanks again, User:Ipankonin! Emilaca (talk) 10:44, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DoD photo cleanup

Articles: Louis Jones, Jr.

Request: Removal of strange red dot noises, especially above his head. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion:

  • How does my edit look? I've removed the dots, in addition to a general noise reduction and slight sharpen. The image is rather poor to begin with, and there is a lot of compression artifacts. Hopefully my edit is a slight improvement and to your likings.-Andrew c [talk] 15:19, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent work; can you overwrite the current image with the edit? Its definitely superior to the current one. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Cheatsheet to Vectorized

Article(s): For Wikipedia use, especially the {{welcome}}

Request: -- 210.203.61.15 (talk) 14:26, 11 February 2008 (UTC) Can someone convert these pdf into SVG, or redo it in SVG. Since SVG is understood by MediaWiki (display an image) and SVG is easier to translate, that should be really helpful to have them in SVG format. The wikipedia-Logo is not available in SVG, and will need to be deleted.[reply]

Graphist opinion: All done... Some fonts were messed up, but all in all, i think it looks good. Any problems? Let me know... Please fix the licenses on both vector images. I hate doing that bit, also can you add descriptions? Thanks XcepticZP (talk) 12:33, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Muahahah !!! Many Thanks !! I will tell the French about this news, to get more translations. You can also encourage your wikipedia to use the english SVG within the {welcome} template. ;) Yug (talk) 16:34, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...:)Glad you like... PDF --> SVG conversions are incredibly easy for me, so feel free to send those my way any time. If you feel the request has been fulfilled, please change the request to done. Thanks XcepticZP (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
O.O !!! I just noticed that you upload your files on wikipedia english !! => big mistake O.o. That's fine, you just need to know that for all free images you have to upload them on wikimedia commons (see http://commons.wikimedia.org , you need to log in). Also, from now, you will have to upload all your free images on commons to allow ALL wikipedians (like Frenchs like me) to see your images. ;)
English wikipedia should just host your Fair use images, which can be use only on the englsih Wikipedia. Yug (talk) 15:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
^,..,^y really.... ! muahaha ! So I'm sorry to announce that your work is not finish, their are a dozen of such pdf on commons:Category:Wikimedia promotion... (soory... that make lot of work to convert them into pdf.) Please, remember you to categorize them as {{Wiki Cheatsheet}} (add this when you upload your fille on commons this will add the licence template and the category ^__^y) if you continue to convert somes . Don't rush : the French and english ones were the more need, so no worry you stop here. Yug (talk) 15:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okays, lol... I guess i'll go do that, then. I, for one, had no idea the other language wiki's had different media databases. Oh well, hehe... XcepticZP (talk) 16:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
They are now on commons. I'd link them to this request's gallery, but I have no clue how to do it! lol...Here are the links: [[4]][[5]]XcepticZP (talk) 16:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The vector versions are showing major kerning problems on my system (XP, firefox). I normally don't see many problems with SVGs, so this there any way to fix? Could also convert text to paths, but would have a much larger file size. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 02:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC) Also opening them in inkscape shows the problem is more than just a browser rendering problem. Why not just stick with the raster version--the need for fast page loads for a welcome message/cheat sheet might outweigh the limitations of not having the vector version. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 02:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do see the problem. It says "Simply dick on the link", among many other problems. . I never quite understood why wikipedia doesn't have solid support for this. And frankly, svg text never comes out right if not converted to path. At least for me, anyways. I think it is readable, though. And I don't see any rendering problem in Illustrator. XcepticZP (talk) 18:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seal of Lancaster, Pennsylvania

Article(s): Lancaster, Pennsylvania

Request: Could someone convert this in to a vector image? This image could probably be reclassified as public domain as its a least 100 years old. ​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 22:43, 12 February 2008 (UTC) [reply]

I've added the SVG'd version of the rose for anyone so they don't have to do that. Does anyone have the info/blaxon of the shield on the inside of the rose? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The inside of the shield has three sheaves of wheat (similar to the ones on the seal of Pennsylvania) on the bottom, three white globes in the middle and a Conestoga wagon on the top. A crown sits on top of the shield. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 23:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

PCMCIA cards

Articels: PCMCIA card, etc.

Request: Simple SVGification. I don't think the dropshadow needs to be retained though. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppinion: Ok, I'm on this one... XcepticZP (talk) 15:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Almost finished. XcepticZP (talk) 17:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Article(s): Cottco

Request: SVG image. Taken from Cottco Website Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 13:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

  • This is a non-free image. I see no reason why to modify it, and I believe converting to SVG is unnecessary and possibly violates WP:FUC #3b.-Andrew c [talk] 16:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There are plenty of logos SVGified though...Mangwanani (talk) 19:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All the ones I've done before were deleted... Why? Because of overzealous copyvio people... It's just the way it is. Besides, I think Cottco would be thrilled to have their logo in svg format, it's probably more than what they have now. lol XcepticZP (talk) 19:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any documentation, precedent, or official word that says vector fair-use images are allowed? If there is, adding that info to the fair-use template with a blurb that emphasizes the point would probably prevent them from getting deleted in the future. It seems to me, though, that having a vector version would violate the fair use rationale, in that it would make it easier for people to make derivative works that infringe on the original. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 23:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That would be {{SVG-Logo}}. Wikipedia:Logos simply states that vector logos should have no more detail than is necessary to render appropriately at low resolutions. (Actually, it says high-detail SVG logos should be avoided.) {{SVG-Logo}} basically implements an honor system, stating the image "should not be rendered any larger than is required for the purposes of identification and/or critical commentary." Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo ethnic 2005

Article(s): Kosovo

Request: scales poorly, SVGify. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Copt cross

Resolved

Articels: Copt, etc.

Request: SVGify. The text can be taken from the SVGs on Coptic alphabet. The drop shadow is not required and can be removed. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppinion: I'll work on this. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 06:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I used this to draw from. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 04:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work Sagredo. May I suggest switching to a different blue, perhaps one that is less garish? Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 05:49, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I thought about that too, but then considered the heavy use of lapis lazuli in artwork throughout the region, maybe it's _supposed_ to be that bright ultramarine. Registan Square in Samarkand at noon will give you that same brilliance. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The colors came (mostly) from this, but if 68 wants the color from the first image, they're easy enough to change. 67.42.172.193 (talk) 22:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looks as though there's no absolute standard for the Copt logo. I would use the original (JPG) colors, just so it doesn't appear to be a massive change. However, if you want to leave it that way for now, it'll be fine. it's definitely better than the JPG we currently have. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 14:48, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Here it is. But please note that small images may appear to have consistant colors, often they do not. As above. The jpg image may have black outlines amalgamated into its blues, making the fine lines look darker. The tan has compression artifacts and tends to give random results. If you want more adjustment, I'll try again. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 23:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We really need a real Copt to check this out. Personally it looks OK by me (compared to the previous version). I'm marking the old one VVA. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Correction, why is the text in the upper right gray while the other 3 are black? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The technical reason is that the opacity of that text was set at less than 100%. This old computer has minimal (mis-matched) RAM, which I suspect is the source of a number of errors.

Either that or an operator headspace error. This should fix it.

So, you're gonna call the Copts on me, eh? ; ) Not a bad idea, I prefer not to be an unintentional Salman Rushdie. The image I drew from was from a Copt church, but we now have altered the coloring. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 20:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's OK now that the text is corrected. Anyway, if someone objects, I can try and figure out what's "wrong" and bring it back for correction. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cuban flag

Articels: President of Cuba

Request: SVGify the flag. The coat on it is already SVG, so it can be dropped into a square w/ the stars and color. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppinion:Here's my attempt. --escondites 10:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The proportion of the stars WRT the coat looks a little off. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 12:09, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And now? --escondites 17:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see the problem: The size ratio is wrong, it should be 1:1 (per the raster), that's why the stars looked squished in. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe COA

Article(s):Zimbabwe and others...

Request: Could the images be SVGd and the Zimbabwe COA enlarged. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note to whoever takes this: The bird is already SVGified on the flag of state. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 03:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is however a different bird. The more upright bird has different uses to the, for want of the word, "squashed" version in the flag... Mangwanani (talk) 16:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How many different of these birds are there? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, two really. The "squashed" version and the "upright" version. The actual carvings of the birds at Great Zimbabwe are upright and hence the image above is to reflect this. Mangwanani (talk) 19:49, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Coat of arms of Somalia

Article(s):Somalia, and dozens more.

Request: SVGify please. Thanks in advance.-- escondites 06:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Council Logo of the Christmas Islands

Article(s): Christmas Island, Shire of Christmas Island, Coat of arms of Christmas Island-- escondites 10:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request: SVGify, please. The map and the bird are already vectorized in the flag. TIA. --escondites 10:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Can't vectorise copyrighted logos, need to try and find one already in a vector format such as a PDF document. Jackaranga (talk) 16:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But on WP:Logos they say:

Overly high-resolution versions of copyrighted logos should be avoided, however, as they are less likely to be fair use. For SVG formats, versions of the logo that contain significantly more detail than is necessary to display at the desired (low) resolution should be avoided.

So vectors are allowed except if they're to detailed AFAIK. PS: How exactly do you extract an image from a PDF? --escondites 16:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The best way I believe is to open it in Adobe Illustrator, however if you don't own that software (which is very expensive), you can use the development version of Inkscape. Go to http://inkscape.modevia.com/win32/?M=D and choose the one with the newest date from the list at the bottom if you are a windows user. Extract the archive using winrar or 7zip, start Inkscape by launching the Inkscape.exe from the extracted folder.
  • Then open the file in the version of Inkscape you just downloaded (make sure you choose the right page number, select embed images, and text as text), select the logo, by drawing a box around it, go to edit> invert selection, press the Del key, and then go to File>Document properties, go to the "page" tab and click Fit page to selection. Jackaranga (talk) 17:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Click save as, and make sure the extension is SVG not PDF. Jackaranga (talk) 17:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emblem of Algeria (again)

Article(s): Algeria, and many more for the first one, and Emblem of Algeria for the second one. -- escondites 10:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Request: There is already this request at the top of the page, but I tought I'll add the remaing thing to do here as the old request might get "lost". So, these two seals actually contain Arabic text, which encircles the content inside, but the image uses a "drawing" of the text, which isn't very clear as I guess Jackaranga, who made these, isn't Arabophone, which is probably why he drew it. So I tried inputting the Arabic text into Inkscape and then vectorizing it, but the letters showed up wrongly. Perhaps it needs a special font or so, and I also don't know how to make text so circular. And now the request: can someone do the text please? The text is: الجمهورية الجزائرية الديمقراطية الشعبية. Thanks in advance. -- escondites 10:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I changed the blue one, let me know if that is any better. I don't have any Arabic fonts on my computer, only the default one, I tried uploading the image with the writing as a text element, but the wiki software didn't like it and couldn't generate the thumbnail correctly, also the image only showed correctly in Inkscape not in Firefox.

Anyway here is an explanation of how to bend text round a circle in Inkscape and convert the text to a path (necessary because the wiki can't generate a thumbnail of curved arabic text it would seem).
  • Draw a circle with the circle tool, expand it to the correct size, (holding down the Ctrl key so it keeps the correct proportions)
  • Add the text using the text tool and Ctrl+V, expand the text with the arrow (while holding down Ctrl to avoid distortion). Select the text and the circle using the Shift key, go to the menu on the top Text > Put on Path. Rotate the text, until it is correctly positioned (click it once, then use the rotate arrow)
  • Select only the text, (not the circle), go to Path > Object to Path
  • Delete the circle
  • (In case you choose not to convert to a Path, but to leave as text, then you must not delete the circle, or the text will be flat again, so you can change the circle's opacity to 0, or move it to a hidden layer, use Shift+PgUP, or Shift+PgDwn to change an object to a different layer. ) Jackaranga (talk) 15:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let me know if the text is back to front ! Jackaranga (talk) 15:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's great like this, I've also done the second one. PS: About the plants which are partly hidden by the text: shouldn't they be on top instead? --escondites 17:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know Jackaranga (talk) 17:46, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It should in my opinion. escondites 17:35, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This text looks miles better than the original "handwritten" version. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 05:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Tunisia

Article(s): Tunisia and dozens more.

Request: Mainly the same thing as for the request for Algeria here: the text on this Coa is drawn, and it should be remade using a computer font. The text is:نظام, حرَِية, عدالة -- escondites 17:20, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's this? The text is a trace of a font in MSWord, as Inkscape (at least my copy) doesn't do Arabic. If it's OK, then we'll need to re-upload over the correctly named file. If it's not what you want, experiment win MSWord with fonts until you find one you like, and let me know. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Egypt Flag

Article(s): Flag of Egypt and others

Request: SVG flag. Not sure where you can get clearer bird from though... Mangwanani (talk) 19:03, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Mozambique COA

Article(s): Mozambique and others...

Request: SVG image. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 19:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Botswana COA

Article(s): Botswana and others...

Request: SVG image. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 19:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: After playing with Inkscape for the first time, here is my attempt at it...Mangwanani (talk) 15:46, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Namibia COA

Article(s): Namibia et al

Request: SVG image. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 19:24, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Lesotho COA

Article(s): Lesotho et al

Request: SVG image thanks. Mangwanani (talk) 19:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Swaziland COA

Article(s): Swaziland et al

Request: SVG image. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 19:26, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Malawi COA

Article(s): Malawi et al

Request: SVG image. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 19:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Seychelles COA

Article(s): Seychelles et al

Request: SVG image. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 19:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Article(s): General article about the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan and Iraqi Kurdistan

Request: A simple .SVG will do, you can try puk.org for a better image and updates image -- ~ Zirguezi 21:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: The second one is a simple SVG that i created my self, but i'm stuck here. Someone please take over Its this one ~ Zirguezi 16:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Lunar eclipse

Resolved
 – Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 03:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articels: Lunar eclipse and todays eclipse.

Request: SVGify and prettyfy (IE. The SVG doesn't have to look exactly like this GIF, IE. It's not a coatofarms ;)). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:25, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppinion: Here's a quickie before I go out to watch. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 01:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Does that mean you'll keep working on it after its over, or that it's done? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 05:09, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notes: After the earth's shadow tapers to a cone, the area is brighter. A really good diagram would show the earth's atmosphere refracting and dispersing some light into the umbra. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 01:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll keep working on it. Also, it has a bug where the sun is Times New Roman in Wiki and Arial in Netscape and Inkscape. Perhaps give the earth a bright side and a dark side. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 15:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I made the original gif version. I don't believe the refraction ought to be a part of this diagram since it is showing domains - umbral and penumbral. I think including more information on light scattering and refraction would make it more confusing. Tom Ruen (talk) 21:04, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, that's easier. How's this? Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 20:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That actually looks alot better. If there's nothing else you want to do, I'd say that 3rd one should supersede the other 2 and this be marked done. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It begs to animated, but I don't know how that's done. So I'm marking it done. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 03:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The 3D is pretty. It would seem most to "beg" for a similar solar eclipse image, with the moon between the earth and sun and the penumbral and umbral shadow projected onto the earth! :) Tom Ruen (talk) 03:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Like Image:Solar_eclipse.svg already does, but ought to keep the sizes such that the penumbral shadow doesn't cover too much of the earth's surface. WELL, of course then there's showing between total and annular too, unsure if it makes sense to show both, but maybe. Tom Ruen (talk) 03:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'll put Image:Solar_eclipse.svg in my queue. The only ways I see to make the penumbra

smaller relative the earth are, making the earth larger than the sun (I think workable), making the drawing MUCH longer, closer to the actual scale (not practical) or bending the lines (undesirable) If I understand correctly, the the penumbra is around 4000 miles at the earth, the and umbra at most 60 to 100 miles, (if it reaches the earth) Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OBE Circlet

Article(s): OBE

Request: Something is seriously wrong with this picture. Could something be done to make it look a bit better. :S Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 20:21, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:


Correction in Flag of Kosovo

Article(s): Kosovo, Flag of Kosovo and List of flags of Kosovo

Request: The SVG rendering of the the first version of the Flag of Kosovo is wrong. The borders of Kosovo looks boxy in full view, which in reality is not, nor is Kosovo that small. The second version of the Flag, however, is more precise in Kosovo's borders when in full view and the size of Kosovo looks just about right and I request that this version is rendered for the SVG version of the Kosovar Flag. --Prevalis (talk) 17:38, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Here is my humble attempt at it... the only thing I changed from the original V2 was the colour. The flag has a yellower colour on its map. I can of course change it back to the original colour. Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 12:33, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, the yellow colour that I have chosen is based on this web site. :)

Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 17:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BSAC

Article(s): Several

Request: Vectorise flag and logo. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 18:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What's the need of the full BSAC coat? Looking @ the flags shows only the lion-crest and "B. S. A. C.". 68.39.174.238 (talk) 04:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Eh? :S Mangwanani (talk) 17:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The defacement of the BSAC flag is clearly not the entire coat, but just the crest of it and some text. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 17:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, but my request was to vectorise the COA as well as the flag. Mangwanani (talk) 18:04, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Have attempted a trace of the crest... Mangwanani (talk) 15:23, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...and now the flag. Mangwanani (talk) 19:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the thing under the lion is supposed to be more like a twisted, multicolored towel. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is but I don't know how to do it...Mangwanani (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've tweaked the flag a little. How's that? The lion looks amazing, by the way. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I was quite impressed with the lion myself, even with my lack of experience. Your version of the flag is, not surprisingly, better than mine. Think we'll go for your version. Mangwanani (talk) 21:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe Defence force flag

Article(s): Zimbabwe, Military of Zimbabwe

Request: Some more SVGery. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 18:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:


Mohammad Reza Pahlavi 1977

Article(s): Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

Request: lighten for detail and crop to encyclopedic -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:05, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I dicided to crop the image and to remove Mohammad's wife I also took out much of the light glare out of his skin and glasses.Justinpauloberg (talk) 04:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It almost gives him an unnatural look on that side of his face. Thank you for your efforts! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

East Anglia

Article(s): Norwich, Norfolk, Suffolk

Request: SVG images. Thanks -- Mangwanani (talk) 19:12, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Oh, why not. Norwich seems easy enough—I'll give it a go, although I can't for the life of me imagine why it's tagged as an unfree logo. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 13:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, Norwich done. How's that? The colors and strokes are a bit different from the JPG, of course, but it is a coat of arms—it could have been much different :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:50, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's wonderful! Thanks. How do the other two look? Are they possible? Mangwanani (talk) 18:36, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have added my rather interesting attempt (first time on Inkscape) Mangwanani (talk) 19:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, that's not bad at all! Was it a trace? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:37, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. Not doing very well with it. Starting to realise how hard it really is.... Mangwanani (talk) 12:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have worked on it a bit. From looking around, the feathers seem to be those of the Prince of Wales so have added them... Mangwanani (talk) 15:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, that's it. There's only one feather on each side, though. I've been working on a version of my own on the side :D Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. Yours will be better as you have more experience. If I can't trace it I havn't got a clue how to do it at all... Mangwanani (talk) 16:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not that hard once you get the hang of it; the learning curve is quite steep, that's all :) The Suffolk coat is nearly done. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Suffolk done. Tell me what you think; again, it's somewhat different from the JPG, and it's quite a large file (messy code :P), but I hope it's adequate. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:03, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite different to the jpg. The helmet's colours are also a bit off... Mangwanani (talk) 18:41, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that's an easy fix. It looks quite different because it's also based on another source (one I find more reliable, as it includes the blazon and the PNG had no specified source at all). The mantling does look quite different, but it's not inaccurate; there's really no hard and fast rule. Would you like it to be closer to that of the PNG? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can't remember which is the proper one anymore. I'll do some research and see if I can find something... Mangwanani (talk) 18:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gram-negative_cellwall-schematic.png

Article(s): Gram-negative bacteria, Cell envelope

Request: This is a very good image, but the articles are using a PNG version because the equivalent SVG original Image:Cellwall-GN.svg is too large (6 MB). Can somebody fiddle with the SVG to make it small enough to use? I tried to edit myself, but can't get it to load in inkscape. - Neparis (talk) 21:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: In addition to the file size, I noticed some rendering problems, so I tried saving the file as a plain svg. This did not fix the rendering problems. I would say that the best solution is to make the drawing simpler, with fewer elements. Having tens of thousands of phospholipid units shown in the membrane is overkill, and somewhat confusing. I would probably try redrawing with larger, simpler, and fewer phospholipid units. I also don't understand the pink half-tint background with rounded corners and some of the other design elements. I'll see if I can redraw it so that it looks nicer and is a reasonable file size. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 04:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a redrawn version. Happy to make any modifications. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 01:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese Forest

I'm sorry, my english is fairly poor, I prefer to write my demand also in French

Article(s):

Request: Hello, I would like to know if it were possible to make three charts, one with the rate arborisation by city and other, the various types species (trees) in the areas (in Portugal) and the last with all the zones left in fume.

The charts will be in French, Portuguese and English, thank you, Cancelos (talk) 11:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bonjour, je voudrais savoir si il était possible de faire trois cartes, une avec le taux d'arborisation par commune et l'autre, les différents types d'espèces (d'arbres) dans les régions (au Portugal) et la dernière avec toutes les zones partit en fumées.

Les cartes seront en français, Portugais et Anglais, merci, Cancelos (talk) 11:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Et la carte n° 2 ne te plait pas pour quelle raison? --escondites 17:59, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
je ne veux plus quel ressemble à la même chose ! du neuf pas de la récup, si tu voix bien il manque une donné c'est pour cela que je demande une nouvelle, Cancelos (talk) 18:29, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
En plus de ça, tu ne doit pas "effacer" les vieux messages pour cette demande, ça détruit l'historique de la page. Et quelle donnée? --escondites 11:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
La bleu dans la carte 2, c'est pour ça que j'ai donné une carte supplémentaire (Carte 1), peut tu le faire ? Cancelos (talk) 07:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

International recognition of the Republic of Kosovo : add small icones

Template:International recognition of the Republic of Kosovo

Article(s): 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence, International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence

Request: -- 61.228.30.208 (talk) 11:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  have accepted Kosovo independance
  will soon accept Kosovo independance
  Not yet considered
  Oppose to Kosovo independance / no recognition.
  Area with strong independentist movement.

To understand why each country support or is oppose to Kosovian independance, it may be great to add the a/ "explosion-icon" , b/ the name of the area : example "icone + Basque (under the icone, in small and half-translucid)" to localize local independentist movements (es:Basque, es:Cataloña , fr:Corsica, ru:tchecheni , cn:tibet, etc, etc.).

Add small icons and mostly tranparent icons may be great because :

  • the miniature display in article will not be affected , and so will continue to display an "overview" ;
  • when enlarge, users may see areas with independents movements and their respective name ;

Many thanks for your help ! 61.228.30.208 (talk) 10:48, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Problem. Can it be proved that the countries in question rejected Kosovo because of these local movements? If not, it'll be hard to prevent people calling it on original synthesis. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

No rush : I finaly work on it : that's really a basic and stupid "copy-past" of a fire-star icon -> I can manage this !.
Bye 210.203.61.15 (talk) 17:10, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So you'll make an account ;-) ? --escondites 16:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
61.228.30.208 = 210.203.61.15 , I already had an account for years which I leaved "recently". User:68.39.174.238 never add any. Don't mix up : there are 2 friendly IPs here ;) 210.203.61.15 (talk) 17:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Partially did : I added Basque, Cataloña, Corse, Scotland ; Georgia, tchetchenia, Kurds, Pashmir, Tibet, Taiwan ; south of Mexico ;
But :
  1. I didn't wrote name : I'm affraid to make spelling mistakes. But feel free to add name... in really small !
  2. Do you know other "strong" independentist movement ? (in latin america, Africa, Asia ?)
210.203.61.15 (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly object to the addition of these "icones". There is something such as too much information, or bad information. In this case, the map cannot possibly contain impartially, or in an easily verifiable and documented way, an indication of well over 200 ethnic/separatist conflicts around the world; furthermore, such a map is beside the point for a map that is supposed to indicate international recognition by states. Furthermore, assessing what constitutes an internal ethnic conflict vs. other kinds is laden with POV implications, as is also the exact placement of the conflict-designating "icone" in some places. And the present implementation includes an "icone" somewhere in Scotland (?!) and no indication of confllicts anywhere in Indonesia, which is curious. Best to leave this feature off. I will revert the graphic to last version showing just states, where, for great majorit of cases, simplified indication of boundaries on global maps is not POV-sensitive. Also, the legend already in wide use on many Wikipedias has no provision the "icones". Incidentally, there is no such word as "icones". One icon, two or more icons. And we already have POV/OR issues with just indicating the color of the country in accordance with the legend actuallly used. Best wishes, --Mareklug talk 18:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I must agree with Mareklug, this will result in simply violating WP:NPOV. If you want to do this, do it on another map, not this one. Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 18:00, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since people seem to say that this is impossible to do in the remit of the site, should this be marked "{{resolved|Impossible}}" or similar? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Matt Sanchez headshot

Resolved. Thank you! Benjiboi 02:47, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Matt Sanchez

Request: Hi, can we extract a headshot (yes, I know, not the best photo) for the subject's bio? Could it also be cleaned up a bit for lighting, etc. Thank you!!! Benjiboi 15:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: You can't get a higher version than this. Isn't there a larger photograph of the subject? --escondites 17:26, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I really appreciate it, the subject of the article has actually caused a lot of drama as has SPA's and other vandals so this image was debated before I brought it here. If we get a better free one I'll come back. Thank you again! Benjiboi 03:52, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Badr campaign

Article(s):

Request: I'd like to see this converted using a better quality map of Arabia that we have on Wikipedia into an SVG. This would remove a tenuous fair use and we could use that image as a source for the locations. -- gren グレン 00:03, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I might give this a shot, but what you do mean by "better quality map of Arabia" ? A higher resolution? A more detailed map? better representation using icons? Λua∫Wise (Operibus anteire) 17:58, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Such as this map from this page (US gov). Taking a more detailed map like that using Mecca as a basis point if it would be possible to at least make a higher resolution version (vectorizing if you want...) I don't care about color scheme or whatnot as long as it's usable. I think that map looks decen it's just small. The nice thing about SVG would be it would make it relatively easy to change the color scheme to match other maps from the page which in an ideal article would have some coordination. gren グレン 08:09, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Chalco glyph

Resolved
 – XcepticZP (talk) 07:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Chalco and possibly others

Request: A neat SVG version of the Aztec glyph for Chalco. The box around it can be ignored; a simpler version without it is in the bottom right of folio 17v of the Codex Mendoza. Could be used as the equivalent of a flag, in conflict infoboxes (if we ever get some articles on Aztec battles) and the like. -- Ptcamn (talk) 01:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I've done this image. Hope it looks good. Wasn't sure about the size of the boxes, so I did 12 in a symmetric pattern. Let me know if this is good. XcepticZP (talk) 14:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. Thanks! --Ptcamn (talk) 23:58, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do you want a light brown background, for your flag idea? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:22, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perry's flag

Resolved
 – Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 01:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s) it would most likely appear in: Battle of Lake Erie, USS Niagara (1813), U.S. Brig Niagara (replica), James Lawrence, Oliver Hazard Perry

Request: I'm surprised there isn't one yet, but would it be possible for someone to draw Oliver Hazard Perry's famous "Don't Give Up The Ship" flag, preferebly vector. -- ​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 06:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Graphist opinion: Here's a start. It would be good to have a higher resolution image to draw a svg from. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 22:51, 28 February 2008 (UTC) Found one. This should be close to the original flag. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 04:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Would it be possible to crop a bit off the bottom or center the text? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 00:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How's this. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:34, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thats good. Will the now transparent piece be removed? --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 02:48, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Shoulda caught that, sorry. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good. I can't think of anything else that needs to be done. --​​​​D​​tbohrer​​​talkcontribs 21:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ohio Collage

Resolved
 – §tepshep¡Talk to me! 04:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Portal:Ohio

Request: I would like a banner for the Ohio portal if possible. Something along the lines of Kentucky's with the State Quater and Flag. But more along the lines of the foreign one, I like the shape and text better. I hope that makes some sense. Some similar banners can be found Here, by different portal links. Thanks! -- Stepshep (talk) 16:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Made one myslef: Doens't look extremely great, but I made one...

Sorry to bud in on your "resolved", Stepshep. But I'll do this one for them. It doesn't seem like a lot of work. XcepticZP (talk) 07:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Norwich City FC

Article(s): Norwich City F.C.

Request: SVG image. Its a featured article - could do with a decent blazon. Thanks -- Mangwanani (talk) 19:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: My attempt. Lion not quite right... Mangwanani (talk) 14:38, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As nice as it looks, this is a logo—I don't think it could have been vectorized; yours is a derivative work :( We'd have to find a vector version that's already available, such as in a club PDF. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. Mangwanani (talk) 15:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Diss Crest. Easy?

Resolved
 – Mangwanani (talk) 19:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Diss

Request: SVG shield on inside of circle, ommitting the two circles and the words Diss Town Council and the fish. Please blank background. Thanks-- Mangwanani (talk) 18:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I will do this one. It's already coming along good. XcepticZP (talk) 13:15, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hope that looks fine. If you intend on using it as part of the COA of Diss, you should use a better copyright tag than the one I used. XcepticZP (talk) 13:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Could you remove the circle so its just the shield? Yes, Diss does have a funny COA - goes with the weird name. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 16:59, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Think I've managed to do it myself...Mangwanani (talk) 19:02, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seal of Barranquilla

Article(s): Barranquilla

Request: Make a SVG version of this seal. -- Rockr.fan (talk) 22:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is an alternate version here, for reference. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:15, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Takeda Shingen

Article(s): Takeda Shingen Kōyō Gunkan

Request: There's something odd about this image when you look at it at full resolution - I realise there's probably some paper texture there, but the chromatics look a little off, like there's some chromatic aberration. What do you think? -- Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 05:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: There is indeed something going on. I really don't know what it is either. Perhaps the original painting is on canvas, and that's whats showing through. Removing the yellows gives this, (although I'm not sure Utagawa Kuniyoshi would consider it an improvement.) Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 01:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Philmont Scout Ranch

Article(s): Philmont Scout Ranch

Request: can anything be done to just plain make a better map? -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I tried to find a map on google, but turned up nothing. If you find any image, non-free or not, with sufficient detail then an svg can be made from it. But the one you posted is a tiny thumbnail, nothing can be done there, sorry. XcepticZP (talk) 20:16, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, found a good place... [[6]]. Those maps just need to be stitched together and voila. OR, a general svg can be made of the whole ranch. XcepticZP (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I tried stitching them together manually. They don't align, courtesy of bad scanning I'm guessing. XcepticZP (talk) 20:33, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fūrinkazan

Resolved
 – XcepticZP (talk) 07:49, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Fūrinkazan

Request: equalize brightness of text down right column to match that of left column -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's this? Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 01:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brilliant, thank you! Please overwrite the original as an improvement! Thanks once again as always! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

J. S. Wilson

Article(s): J. S. Wilson, others

Request: remove stain artifacts _without_ removing age patina -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

T. Canby Jones

Article(s): T. Canby Jones

Request: When I edit and resave jpgs it puts in artifacts. Please lighten for details and trim out white to right side -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Resolved
 – escondites 13:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Hundreds, including Massachusetts

Request: Can the seal (which is requested for deletion BTW) be vectorized, the elements can be found in the flag of the state. Thanks.-- escondites 17:36, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Does anyone know what the three objects at the top are, and what is the inner circle. My guess is a chain. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:32, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it is a double headed arrow with a starburst in the middle and two points at each end. I honestly can't tell for sure, but that's what the 1st (PNG) seal looks like. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:13, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, that sounds (and looks) right. I was coming up with something that looked like a ship's wheel and two school bells/butter churns(?). Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 00:46, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
God that's nice work! How do you have the patience? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very nice! Thank you! --escondites 13:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the kind words. The chain (256 links) was made by making a flat link and one on edge on the left side, and copying the same pair to the right side. They were then all grouped together, duplicated and the duplicate group rotated slightly. Then all eight links were grouped, duplicated and the duplicates rotated twice as much. and so on and so on. It doesn't actually take that long before they're all done. The rope(s) in the Kansas Seal was done basically the same way.Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 16:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some US seals

Article(s): Phoenix, Arizona, Gilbert, Arizona, Leavenworth, Kansas

Request:

  • For Phoenix, AZ seal, ectorize please. The bird (the "phoenix") is already vectorized in the flag. The text which encircles the seal reads "PHOENIX, ARIZONA * INCORPORATED FEB 25 1881"
  • And for Gilbert seal, vectorize, too.
  • For Leavenworth seal, remove the background of the image and the electricity cable in the image and these 4 "things" at the top of the image, if possible. Thanks. --escondites 17:51, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:Seal of Phoenix, Arizona.svg

Graphist opinion: Gilbert done. What's the Phoenix seal supposed to look like—black and white? Any colors? It looks like it was scanned from a notarized document. As for Leavenworth, I will honestly say it's out of my league; perhaps someone with more artistic flair :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Gilbert logo, It's on the page now! For Phoenix's seal, it's golden. (PS Leavenworth's seal doens't have to be a vector.) --escondites 18:42, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a version of Leavenworth with the wire (and more) removed, and some color adjustment. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 03:46, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! And can you do the Phoenix seal please? --41.201.181.44 (talk) 12:24, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, sorry! Mind if I lose the embossed look?
Sagredo—I'm very glad you have raster editing skills :) Thanks for taking the Leavenworth one. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, how's this? Fvasconcellos (t·c) 21:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect! Well, almost. Don't you think it should be a darker color? Like the one in the raster? And what about the spikes? --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 06:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Adding the "starburst" is easy enough, though I'm not sure if it's necessary. As for the color, Escondites said it should be golden; I've been looking for another image to use as the source, but no luck yet—the raster looks like an actual impression of the seal, so I really can't use it as a basis for the colors. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 12:57, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I am Escondites BTW. I've changed my username, and the signature is also different from both usernames, that's irritating, I know. --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 09:58, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, right! That's quite confusing :) I'll add the starburst; I would really like to get my hands on a more "official" image if the colors are to be changed, though. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:41, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Confusing? That's downright annoying... O well, each after their own. nice work on Phoenix, however I have to give them (Phoenix) credit for specifying a simple seal. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:32, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Remove wire from image

Resolved
 – NMajdantalk 13:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): 110 West 7th Building, Buildings of Tulsa, Oklahoma

Request: Can anybody remove the wire that runs in the foreground of the image?-- ↔NMajdantalk 15:47, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: this might be going a bit far. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 08:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you referring to the request or the removal of glare. Either way, the image looks great. Thanks!↔NMajdantalk 13:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I meant the removal of the glare. Nothing wrong with the request. Covering the glare by moving down sections from above resulted in some distortions. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 18:27, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any distortion. It looks really good, great job! XcepticZP (talk) 07:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zimbabwe National Army - Easy

Article(s):Zimbabwe, Zimbabwe National Army

Request: Add the text from here. Thanks. -- Mangwanani (talk) 18:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Polar ice packs

Resolved
 – Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Polar ice packs

Request: slow this bad boy down, and as an aside, please explain the mechanism by which one speeds up or slows down an animated gif. -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:36, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: One makes an animated gif by putting together a series of frames in an appropriate editor, which allows you to specify the delay time for each frame. A setting of "no delay" or similar will display the frames at maximum speed, which in my experience is something like 12 frames/second. If you had each of the frames available, you could re-make the animation but setting a longer delay time, say 0.5 seconds/frame or so. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 07:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone already uploaded a slower version on July 1st 2006, let me know if that one is still too fast, and what speed you would like the frames to be at. To do it yourself just open the file in GIMP and change the delay in ms, in the frames attributes box. Jackaranga (talk) 13:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't seem to find the version from 2006, so I did one of my own. GIMP didn't seem to be very good at optimising it (it came out at 650KB as opposed to 450KB for the original) so I ended up opening it in a hex editor and editing the times by hand down to 200ms per frame. Let me know if that's still too fast and I'll slow it down a bit more. Time3000 (talk) 17:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That is much better, the first version was making me seasick. All the sloshing and rocking and *gulp* oh god be right back... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 21:56, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

US state seals (easy?)

Article(s): Dozends

Request: Can the seals of each respective state (which are requested for deletion BTW, except Connecticut) be vectorized, the elements of each seal can be found in the flag of the respective state, which are all vectorized. Thanks. --escondites 13:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Minnesota has a large version on their website which should solve that one. Apparently, they're picky about how it's done. [7] Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:30, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Connecticut is more interesting. [8]
So is Delaware. [9] Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:44, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see the problem with MN. But what's wrong with the seals of CT and DE? --ANONYMOUS 12:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Connecticut

Reproduction of State Arms and Seal: Please be advised that permission is required to reproduce the state arms and seal under Section 3-106a of the Connecticut General Statutes:

Sec. 3-106a. Reproduction of arms and seal. The official arms and seal of the State of Connecticut, or imitation thereof, whether as a reproduction, imprint or facsimile, shall be made and used only under the direction and with the approval of the Secretary of the State for purposes specifically authorized by the constitution and laws of the state or related directly or indirectly to the official business of the state, provided the secretary may in his judgment approve other reproductions of said arms or seal of the state for memorials and for purposes he considers educational.

To request permission to reproduce the "state arms and/or seal", please write to Connecticut Secretary of the State, Legislation and Elections Administration Division, 30 Trinity Street, Hartford, CT 06106 http://www.kids.ct.gov/kids/cwp/view.asp?a=2731&q=314190

Delaware

§ 2306. Use of Great Seal and Privy Seal; restrictions; reproduction of seals and other insignia subject to approval; penalties.

(a) The Secretary of State as the keeper of the Great Seal and the Privy Seal shall restrict the use of the Great Seal and the Privy Seal to documents, records, publications and other business transactions of the State.

(b) The seals, coat of arms, state flag, emblems and other insignia of this State may be used, reproduced or published with the written consent of the Secretary of State, provided that use is restricted to educational uses such as encyclopedias, reference books, historical publications or similar uses which do not involve advertising or other means of personal gain or which abrogate the rights of the citizenry of the State. http://delcode.delaware.gov/title29/c023/index.shtml#P64_2169

They will need to be contacted, in writing, and I would guess their response will be to send a rather low resolution image.

I see no problem with using the large png from Minnesota. [10] Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:59, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Didn't we go through the same thing with all the Federal agency logos (EG. CIA, FBI, DoD, etc.)? They say "Don't reproduce us", but there's a exemption in the law that covers us? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:34, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any art or text produced by the federal government, federal agencies, or their employees is in the Public Domain (although not necessarily available to the public for privacy or security reasons), works produced by State governments are not necessarily in the Public Domain, it depends on the State. At least this is what I believe to be the case. However on the commons they don't seem to care, there are insignia and flags from all over the world marked as Public Domain, even though there is no legal basis for the claim. It seems acceptable to just use GFDL Self, I have tried to get these deleted before but people thought I was trolling, and turned a blind eye, so it's probably OK. Take Image:Flag of Kosovo.svg for example, the claim that the flag of Kosovo was invented by a random person on the internet is laughable, yet nobody cares. Just do the same for these seals. Jackaranga (talk) 02:16, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seals are a special case as they can be used to deceive people that a person or organization is in some related to the government. Therefore many state regulate their use. A federal Law exempting educatioinal use of federal symbols is unlikely to apply to the states. It's a matter of going through one at a time. I'm find some that states that post large images for the public to use, and others where it is a felony to reproduce the seal with authorization. Some carefully describe the colors, and others seem not to care. The incomplete list is here. You are welcome to check my work or to contribute.
Eventually we arrive at a list of a dozen or so states that must be contacted. Get it into a nice form with address and so forth. Make the amount of work left minimal. Then give it to the dozen or so real people who work for WP. Hopefully it will come back with images we are allowed to use. I don't think any state will refuse, but I suspect that many of these will supply a low resolution image, and not allow anything better.
If done improperly we could have a deletionist find one without a required permission and mindlessly nominate all for deletion. The list isn't too far away from making the proper requests easy to make. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm guessing that's "felony without authorization". 68.39.174.238 (talk) 15:15, 5 March 2008 (UTC) PS. New York's appears to be the flag, but without the crown: Seal of New York.[reply]
I've got most of the work done. There are 13 States that should be contacted. I still have a couple of territories to check out. Then make a list of addresses and such and send it to someone like User:Angela. Unless someone has a better idea. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 20:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suborn some state legislat[or/ure]s to suppress these provisions? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:30, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Rally for Culture and Democracy

Request: SVGify please. --escondites 14:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flag done. The logo is, well, a logo, so it can't be vectorized; a vector version must be found, either in a website such as Brands of the World or in a PDF file from which it can be extracted. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 16:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you can use the svg, regardless of where you found it. You just need to put the proper fair use rational etc... 137.215.6.50 (talk) 17:22, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): St._Andrew's_Ambulance_Association

Request: -- Hi, please can you convert this to an svg? Thanks 137.215.6.50 (talk) 17:15, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Done. It looks a bit squished, but that's how it was in the PDF I extracted it from. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That looks great. The raster version looks like it was stretched, so the svg is much better. XcepticZP (talk) 20:30, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Quebec Provincial Highways

Article(s): List_of_Quebec_provincial_highways

Request: -- There are hundreds of these to be converted to svg. Perhaps there is an easy way to do this? Any help appreciated, thanks :) 137.215.6.50 (talk) 17:19, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Are all these really necessary? It seems to me that just having one or two as examples would be enough. Apart from that though, having a base SVG without a number and then using a template something like Template:GBthumb to overlay a number would be better both in terms of number of images and ease of use on pages. Time3000 (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully, the wiki software supports the font which is used, we can then create a script to make all the files, but we will need a bot flag to upload them all or it will take forever, and may cause problems for a user if he were to upload them without a flag. Jackaranga (talk) 01:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
By all means, if you know how then go ahead? Do you need me to make you the initial svg? XcepticZP (talk) 17:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I will outline my plan hopefully it will work:
1.Create the first SVG (download the correct font) (leave the numbers as text)
2.Write a script to create all the files (incrementing the number in each one)
3.Convert the number in each file to a path using the Inkscape command line (because Mediawiki doesn't have the correct font installed for the SVG rendering)
4. Use an upload bot to upload them all to the commons. Jackaranga (talk) 20:33, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any chance of that script being able to center the text object on the shield as well? :D Incrementing the numbers will invariably make the text asymmetrical from one file to another if it's not centered. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In Inkscape when you choose "centre lines" in the "text and font" properties window, the text stays centred, like in Word when you use the centre tool. Jackaranga (talk) 20:50, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Mexico desert

Resolved
 – ANONYMOUSPUSSY 10:16, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): New Mexico

Request: -- Remove the date please. --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 06:47, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: It's blurry and its low quality. I see no point in putting any effort into it. Sorry. Maybe someone else here will do it. XcepticZP (talk) 12:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Surely a better starting image for such a beautiful state can be found somewhere. Here's a place to look. [11]. Do check the licensing, some can be used, but not all. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 21:25, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All these ones should be usable on the project from a license point of view, unless the flickr user lied of course. Jackaranga (talk) 00:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think I'll replace it with this one. --ANONYMOUSPUSSY 10:16, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rhodesia Scouts

Article(s): The_Boy_Scouts_Association_of_Zimbabwe Request: -SVGify these plese. :) XcepticZP (talk) 19:40, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:Here's the first one, second coming soon. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 20:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC) Here is the second. I've been uploading only raster images of these non-free logos. I do have the vector versions available, but I'm reluctant to upload over licensing concerns. Jeff Dahl (Talkcontribs) 20:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Scout Association of Papua New Guinea

Article(s): The Scout Association of Papua New Guinea

Request: Normally I am careful not to put emblems younger than 25 years up here, but since we're doing the above... SVGify these please. :) -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: