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'''Illegal immigration''' refers to [[immigration]] across [[nation]]al [[border]]s in a way that violates the [[immigration law]]s of the destination [[country]]. In [[politics]], the term may imply a larger set of [[social issues]] and [[time constraints]] with disputed consequences in areas such as [[economy]], [[social welfare]], [[education]], [[health care]], [[slavery]], [[prostitution]], [[crime]], legal protections, [[voting rights]], [[public services]], and [[human rights]]. [[Illegal emigration]], in contrast, refers to unlawfully leaving a country.
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==Terminology==
==Magyars first came to Transylvania? (also Gesta Hungarorum)==
* illegal immigrant (mostly in the UK)<ref name="uk-immigration">[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/5275236.stm Call for illegal immigrant study] at http://news.bbc.co.uk (accessed [[Aug]], 2006)</ref>
This is the first time I've ever heard of this and it seems that the only source which is used for this claim is Chronicon Pictum (the Hungarians ironically throw Gesta Hungarorum out the window though it was written over 150 years before Chronicon Pictum). As far as I know both Nestor's Rus Chronicle and Constantine VII's De Administrando Imperio mention that the Hungarians were not able to cross the Transylvania mountains (being defeated militarily) Nestor and Annonymous then state that the Magyars crossed over the Slovakian mountains.
* undocumented immigrant
* clandestine workers<ref>{{cite news
| author= Reem Saad
| url = http://www.migrationdrc.org/publications/research_reports/EgyptianWorkersInParis.pdf#search=%22clandestine%20workers%20france%22 | title = Egyptian Workers in Paris: Pilot Ethnography
| publisher = SRC, American University in Cairo
|date=May 2006}}</ref>
* ''sans papiers''/"sin papeles"<ref>[http://www.bok.net/pajol/index.en.html The undocumented Africans "of St. Ambroise"] Bok.net. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].</ref>
[[Image:REF1 Clajot.jpg|right|thumb|200px| [[Tenerife]] / [[Los Cristianos]], June 7, 2006 - illegal immigrants from [[West Africa]] rest in a [[Red Cross]] tent after arriving at the [[Canary Islands]]. The cost of the journey is between $880 to $1,250.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/5383080.stm Gambia - new front in migrant trade]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3568329.stm Guinea: Unstoppable exodus]</ref>]]
* Irregular immigration


===United States===
*Neither Nestor, nor Constantine VII mention this. Constanine mentions that the Magyars were defeated by the Petcheneqs, while Nestor describes that the Magyars defeated the "Volochs" (probably East-Francia) who had occupied the territories of the Slavs.[[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 04:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
{{Main|Illegal immigration to the United States#Terminology}}
**Nestor does mention how the passes of the mountains were "sealed with sword and fire" and the Magyars could not pass through there. Constantine VII also mentions in Chapter 38 that the Magyars were defeated by "rebels" North of the Danube. Nestor then says the Magyars passed "over the Hungarian mountains", in other words going through Slovakia.[[User:Romano-Dacis|Romano-Dacis]] ([[User talk:Romano-Dacis|talk]]) 10:44, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
Terms used in the [[United States]] include:
::: Actually, Nestor does not mention "the passes of the mountains sealed with sword and fire", and the Magyars were defeated by the Pechenegs according to Chapter 38 of the De administrando imperio, the "Magyar Mountains" were the Carpathians according to Nestor. Nestor also mentioned that the Magyars defeated the "Volochs" (who were probably the people of East Francia). [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 18:11, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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* illegal alien <ref>U.S. Customs & Border Protection, [http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/border_security/border_patrol/border_patrol_sectors/sandiego_sector_ca/faqs.xml Frequently asked questions]. Department of Homeland Security. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].
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* illegal immigrant
* undocumented immigrant/migrant/alien/worker/resident
* unauthorized immigrant/migrant/alien/worker/resident
* paperless immigrant/migrant/alien/worker/resident
* immigrant "without immigration status"
* out of status
* unnaturalized immigrant
* irregular immigrant
===Other===
* [[boat people]]


==Causes==
Furthermore the archaeological record doesn't support the notion that the Magyars first passed through Transylvania. The expansion of the Hungarian kingdom again contradicts the theory established here (the gradual conquest of Transylvania, going West-East, lasting over two centuries). At the very least a section should be added showing that there is a scholarly controversy of where the Magyars went first.
===War===
*Contemporary sources mentions that Transylvania was ruled by the head of one of the Magyar tribes around 950. There were several archaeological findings of Magyar warriors from the 10th century.[[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 04:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
One reason for illegal immigration is to escape civil [[war]] or [[Political repression|repression]] in the country of origin. For example, people in Germany that were considered minorities fled their country in fear that they would be oppressed and arrested. Non-economic push factors include [[persecution]] (religious and otherwise), frequent [[abuse]], [[bullying]], [[oppression]], and [[genocide]], and risks to civilians during [[List of wars|war]]. Political motives traditionally motivate [[refugee]] flows - to escape [[dictatorship]] for instance.


After decades of armed conflict, roughly one of every 10 Colombians now lives abroad.
Also the part about the Gesta Hungarorum needs a serious NPOV clean-up. As it stands the Hungarian perspective is the only one that's expressed, and it's quite clear that there is a schoarly controversy over whether the thing is "fantasy". The actual article about the Gesta Hungarorum on wikipedia is much better.[[User:Romano-Dacis|Romano-Dacis]] ([[User talk:Romano-Dacis|talk]]) 21:21, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
<ref name="mis1">{{cite web |url=http://www.migrationinformation.org/Profiles/display.cfm?ID=344 |title=Colombia: In the Crossfire| accessdate=2007-01-22 |author= Myriam Bérubé |date=November 2005|publisher=Migration Information Source}}
* Do not refrain from it, but deleting all sourced parts of the article is not a solution. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 04:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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:: :: I have edited the section on the Gesta Hungarorum to make it less POV and split the conquest of the carpathian basin into two theories earlier on, which merge into one theory after the Hungarian raids in Italy. [[User:Romano-Dacis|Romano-Dacis]] ([[User talk:Romano-Dacis|talk]]) 14:09, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
For example, Colombians emigrating to Spain have "grown exponentially, from a little over 7,000 in 1993 to more than 80,000 in 2002 and 244,000 in 2003."
<ref name="imdiversity">Pilar Marrero, [http://www.imdiversity.com/Villages/Hispanic/world_international/pns_immigration_shift_1204.asp Immigration Shift: Many Latin Americans Choosing Spain Over U.S.] ''Pacific News Service'', December 9, 2004. Retrieved on [[2008-09-02]].
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This is equivalent to 124,000 Colombian immigrants in year 2003 into Spain alone.
Also, figures from the [[U.S. Department of Homeland Security]] indicate that [[Colombia]] is the fourth-leading source country of unauthorized [[immigration to the United States]]. According to its [[estimates]], the number of [[unauthorized]] Colombian residents in the United States almost tripled from 51,000 in 1990 to 141,000 in 2000.
<ref>Office of Policy and Planning U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service: [http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/Ill_Report_1211.pdf Estimates of the unauthorized immigrant population residing in the United States: 1990 to 2000] page 9.</ref> According to the US Census Bureau, the number of [[authorized]] Colombian immigrants in the United States in 2000 was 801,363.
<ref>U.S. Census Bureau,
[http://factfinder.census.gov Selected Population Profile in the United States: Colombians] U.S. Department of Commerce. Retrieved on [[2008-02-07]].
"S0201. Selected Population Profile in the United States;
Population Group: Colombian;
Data Set: 2006 American Community porn Survey;
Survey: 2006 American Community Survey.
(Via: Main>Data Sets>American Community Surveys>Selected Population Profiles (Geographic Type=Nation, Ethnic Group=Colombian)"
</ref> Census data are important because, as the Department of Homeland Security states, [U.S.] "census data are more complete and reliable [than INS's data] because of the national scope of the data collection, the vastly larger data sample, and the extensive preparation and follow-up activities involved in conducting the decennial census."
<ref>Office of Policy and Planning U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service: [http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/Ill_Report_1211.pdf Estimates of the unauthorized immigrant population residing in the United States: 1990 to 2000] pages 2,3.</ref>
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[[El Salvador]] is another country which experienced substantial emigration as a result of civil war and repression. The largest per-capita source of immigrants to the United States comes from El Salvador. Up to a third of the world's Salvadoran-born population lives outside the country, mostly in the United States.
<ref name="bsun1">Tania Snyder,[http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.elsalvador11jan11,0,460257.story?coll=bal-oped-headlines To slow immigration from El Salvador, understand its causes] Baltimore Sun, January 11, 2007
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According to the Santa Clara County, California, Office of Human Relations.
:''Despite the fact that the U.S. government’s role in the Salvadoran conflict was unique in sustaining the prolongation of the civil conflict, the government and the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) extended little sympathy to the people affected by the war. In the 1980s, the INS granted only 2% of political asylum applications, claiming that democracy existed in El Salvador and that reports of U.S. and government-sponsored “death squads” were overblown. As a response to what they considered a failure of the U.S. government to address the situation of Salvadoran refugees in the country, American activists established a loose network to aid refugees. Operating in clear violation of U.S. immigration laws, these activists took refugees into their houses, aided their travel, hid them and helped them find work. This became known as the “sanctuary movement”.''<ref name="santaclara1">[http://www.immigrantinfo.org/kin/elsalvador.htm Knowledge of immigrant nationalities of Santa Clara County (KIN): El Salvador]</ref>


===Family reunification===
*"They claim that the lack of Hungarian artefacts in the valley of the Maros river provides strong evidence that the Magyars did not pass through Transylvania."
Some illegal immigrants seek to live with loved ones, such as a spouse or other family members.
**For further details: http://mek.oszk.hu/03400/03407/html/65.html [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 19:06, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
<ref name="washpost1">N.C. Aizenman, [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/27/AR2006082700771.html Young migrants risk all to reach U.S.: Thousands detained after setting out from Central America without parents] ''Washington Post'', August 28, 2006. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].
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<ref name="lamigra">Rosario Vital, [http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=b2579269c3c901ad0ae85bd42dd2920d Love unites them, La Migra separates them] ''El Observador'', November 30, 2006. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].
</ref>
<ref name="haaretz1">[http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=533868 After such respect, such humiliation]. Haaretz, January 31, 2005.
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This is particularly true for the families of binational same sex couples.
<ref name="hrw1">[http://hrw.org/reports/2006/us0506/6.htm#_Toc132691968 Family, unvalued: Discrimination, denial, and the fate of binational same-sex couples under U.S. law]. Human Rights Watch, May 2, 2006 ''Faced with the unpalatable choice between leaving and living with the person they love in violation of U.S. immigration laws, foreign-born partners may become undocumented—staying after their visa expires.''
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The Lesbian and Gay Immigration Rights Task Force (LGIRTF) warns binational same sex couples in the United States that marriage may actually ''increase'' the likelihood of becoming undocumented, rather than ''decreasing'' it. [http://web.archive.org/web/20031202181136/www.lgirtf.org/canadamarriage.html] [http://web.archive.org/web/20040213000645/http://www.lgirtf.org/massmarriage.html]
Other individuals seek to distance themselves from their spouses.


===Poverty===
*"Other historians propose that had the Magyars first entered Transylvania, they would have remained there."
One cause of illegal immigration can be [[poverty]]. This is the case in the United States, where illegal immigrants traditionally have entered the country in search of wages higher than those achievable in their home countries.
**Why? They were escaping from an enemy that had just defeated them, the plateaus in Transylvania could not support their cattle, and the settlements of nomadic people were usually bordered by huge inhabited area. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 19:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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The case of U.S. Marine Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez is atypical, but it serves to demonstrate how poor immigrants enter the United States illegally in search for a better tomorrow. According to [[CBS]] [[60 Minutes]], U.S. Marine Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez, one of the first U.S. servicemen to die in combat in [[Iraq]], was a former [[street child]] in [[Guatemala]] having been orphaned at age eight. Gutierrez, 60 Minutes reported, first entered the United States as an illegal immigrant in 1997 to escape poverty, and dreamed of becoming an architect.<ref name="gutierrez">[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/04/23/60II/main550779.shtml The Death Of Lance Cpl. Gutierrez: Simon Reports On Non-Citizen Soldiers]CBS 60 Minutes, Aug. 20, 2003</ref>


The chief cause of illegal immigration is considered to be economic. Illegal immigrants in the [[United States]] traditionally have been portrayed as seeking jobs and wages better than those available in their home countries. For example, the [[1994 economic crisis in Mexico]] was associated with widespread poverty and a lower valuation for the peso relative to the dollar{{Fact|date=February 2008}}. The United States Department of Labor calculates that the Zone A (most industrialized) minimum wage in Mexico in 1999 was 34.45 [[peso]]s, or about US$3.50 per day{{Fact|date=February 2008}} . The Zone C (rural/agricultural) minimum wage was 29.70 Pesos a day, or roughly US$3.02 a day{{Fact|date=February 2008}} . By contrast, the U.S. minimum is set at $5.85 per hour under U.S. federal law, and many states require rates higher than the federally mandated minimum.<ref>Minimum Wage Laws in the States [http://www.dol.gov/esa/minwage/america.htm July 24, 2007]</ref> [[Natural disasters]] and [[overpopulation]] can amplify [[poverty]]-driven migration flows.<ref>[http://www.irinnews.org/report.aspx?reportid=59616 High population growth could slow development - gov't]</ref>
== "False theories of" ==


===Population growth===
I think the status of the Finno-ugric theory is supported by enough people not to be listed under a section "false theories". Perhaps turn it into "disputed theories". Reading that section I get a strong impression that it breaks the NPOV rule. [[User:Martijn faassen|Martijn Faassen]] 00:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
[[Population growth]] which exceeds the [[carrying capacity]] of an area or environment results in [[overpopulation]].<ref>[http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/index.php?display_article=vn126manupured Poverty Causes Population Growth Causes Poverty]</ref> Spikes in human population can cause problems such as [[pollution]], [[water crisis]]<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1234244.stm World warned on water refugees]</ref><ref>[http://www.earth-policy.org/Alerts/Alert4.htm Population Growth Sentencing Millions to Hydrological Poverty]</ref> and [[poverty]].<ref>[http://www.fao.org/sd/WPdirect/WPre0087.htm Population and Poverty: the Policy Issues, Part 1]</ref><ref>[http://www.unfpa.org/swp/2002/english/ch1/index.htm UNFPA State of World Population]</ref> [[World population]] has grown from 1.6 billion in 1900 to an estimated 6.7 billion today. In [[Mexico]] alone, population has grown from 13.6 million in 1900 to 107 million in 2007.<ref>From Traitors to Heroes: 100 Years of Mexican Migration Policies [http://www.migrationinformation.org/Feature/display.cfm?ID=203 March 2004 ]</ref>


In 2000, the [[United Nations]] estimated that the world's population was growing at the rate of 1.14% (or about 75 million people) per year. According to data from the CIA's 2005&ndash;2006 [[The World Factbook|World Factbook]]s, the world human population currently increases by 203,800 every day.<ref>Current world population (ranked) [http://www.xist.org/earth/population1.aspx source: "The World Factbook 2006-2007", CIA]</ref> The United States [[Census Bureau]] issued a revised forecast for world population that increased its projection for the year 2050 to above 9.4 billion people, up from 9.1 billion people. We are adding a billion more every 12 years. Almost all growth will take place in the less developed regions.<ref>SUSPS - Population, Immigration, and Global Ethics by Jonette Christian [http://www.susps.org/ibq1998/discuss/jchristian.html October 9, 1999]</ref>
In fact, the finno-ugric theory is the most widely accepted one. This whole article is based on István Kiszelly's work and it is not what the most prominent Hungarian historians think. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/193.6.98.148|193.6.98.148]] ([[User talk:193.6.98.148|talk]]) 08:47, 18 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==Dangers==
:I completely agree. This section is full of strong POV statements and it belittles the most accepted theory on Hungarian origins as a "false theory". The paragraphs on the alleged Egyptian or Sumerian origins is pure pseudoscience. If no one objects, I will remove that problematic section. [[User:Tankred|Tankred]] ([[User talk:Tankred|talk]]) 15:22, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
Illegal immigrants expose themselves to dangers while engaged in [[illegal entry]] to another country. Aside from the possibility that they may be intercepted and deported, some considerably more dangerous outcomes have been known to result from their activity. As an example, illegal immigrants may been [[Trafficking in human beings|trafficked]] for exploitation.


===Slavery===
::I do object because of WP:NPOV, I would prefer to see the various sources for that section properly cited and also cite the mainstream claims that it is pseudoscience. Much that section is actually not based on Kistzelly but on Hamori. All we have to do is cite Hamori's school of thought, and then we can also cite the mainstream view of Hamori's school of thought being "pseudoscience". There is a place for this theory to be at least mentioned (of course not endorsed! just mentioned, per NPOV) somewhere on Wikipedia, and if this isn't it, I can't think of a better place. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 16:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
After the end of the legal international [[slave trade]] by the [[Europe]]an nations and the United States in the early 19th century, the illegal importation of [[slave]]s has continued, albeit at much reduced levels. Although not as common as in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, some women are undoubtedly smuggled into the United States and Canada.<ref>[http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/09/23_16691.shtml Modern slavery thriving in the U.S.]</ref>


People been kidnapped or tricked into slavery to work as laborers, for example in factories. Those trafficked in this manner often face additional barriers to escaping slavery, since their status as illegal immigrants makes it difficult for them to gain access to help or services. For example [[Burma|Burmese]] women trafficked into Thailand and forced to work in factories or as prostitutes may not speak the language and may be vulnerable to abuse by police due to their illegal immigrant status.<ref>{{cite book
:::That would be the ideal solution. But the present state (a mainstream theory described as "false" and a fringe theory presented as the truth) is totally unsatisfactory. Could you edit this article in order to make it NPOV? [[User:Tankred|Tankred]] ([[User talk:Tankred|talk]]) 17:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
| last = Bales
| first = Kevin
| authorlink = Kevin Bales
| title = Disposable People: New Slavery in the Global Economy
| publisher = University of California Press
| date= 1999
| id = ISBN 0-520-22463-9 }}</ref>
In the [[Dominican Republic]], Haitian migrant workers are sold into slavery on Dominican Sugar plantations, including children.<Ref>''[http://www.thepriceofsugar.com/about.shtml The Price of Sugar]''. thepriceofsugar.com. Retrieved on [[2007-09-27]].</Ref><ref> "No Papers, No Rights" New York Times 2005 </Ref>


===Prostitution===
::::NPOV is needed here, but would you go step by step? Don't make huge changes with only a partial explanation in the edit summary and putting three(!) fact tags in one sentence. [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 09:19, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
The so-called "[[white slave trade]]" referred to the smuggling of women, almost always under duress or fraud, for the purpose of forced prostitution. Now more generically called "[[sexual slavery]]" it continues to be a problem, particularly in [[Eastern Europe]] and the [[Middle East]],<ref>[http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2701324.ece '50,000 Iraqi refugees' forced into prostitution]</ref><ref>[http://www.unesco.org.ezproxy.auckland.ac.nz/courier/2000_02/uk/ethique/intro.htm For East Europe’s Women, a Rude Awakening]</ref><ref>[http://vn.vladnews.ru/Arch/2000/iss239/text/news1.html Police bring home 3 sex slaves from China]</ref> though there has been an increase in the number of cases in the U.S.[http://www.walnet.org/csis/papers/doezema-loose.html#moralpanics] Some Haitian children have allegedly been forced to work as prostitutes in the Dominican sexual tourism industry.<Ref>[http://gvnet.com/humantrafficking/DominicanRepublic.htm Human trafficking & modern-day slavery: Dominican Republic]. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].</Ref> Currently the Dominican sex trade ranks third in the world, only behind Thailand and the Philippines.<ref>Juan O. Tamayo, [http://www.aegis.com/news/mh/1997/MH970604.html Dominican prostitution: Cheap, prevalent and accepted]. ''The Miami Herald''. June 24, 1997. Retrieved on [[2007-09-27]].</Ref>
::::"I would prefer to see the various sources for that section properly cited and also cite the mainstream claims that it is pseudoscience" - this sounds like concensus reached about deletion?? [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 09:35, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


:::::Is there any of the POV statements I have deleted you want to retain? If there is, we can discuss it here. As far as I am aware, I deleted only the most blatant POV, such as the term "false theories" referring to a mainstream theory. I also put fact tags to the most dubious statements. Sometimes, several very suspicious statements are put into one sentence, so I used more tags in one case. However, I really tried not to overdo it in general. If you think one fact tag per sentence is sufficient, feel free to delete the redundant ones, leaving only the one at the end of a sentence. [[User:Tankred|Tankred]] ([[User talk:Tankred|talk]]) 13:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


::::: To end any confusion, your deletion so far does have my consensus, for what it's worth. The statements you deleted are of little value and are obvious POV. The parts you didn't delete are the ones I would like to see better sourcing for. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 13:18, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


===Death===
A little direction needed. Can we remove the totally disputed tag and have everyone here start marking specific parts in the article as either POV or needing citation? That will go a long way to further improving this article. Furthermore, in some ways I feel the 'disputed' tag on an article about historic theories is complete fancy. Who ever heard of "factual accuracy" when it comes to history? "Historical fact" is some sort of oxymoron, especially when we're dealing with poorly documented history such as this. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 06:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Each year there are several hundred [[Immigrant deaths along the U.S.-Mexico border]].<ref>United States Government Accounting Office. [http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d06770.pdf GAO-06-770], August 2006.</ref> Death by exposure occurs in the deserts of Southwestern United States during the hot summer season. <ref>{{cite news | author=Evelyn Nieves | publisher=[[New York Times]] | url=http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9806E7D6103BF935A3575BC0A9649C8B63 | date= August 6, 2002 | title=Illegal Immigrant Death Rate Rises Sharply in Barren Areas. | accessdate=2008-02-16}}</ref>
:The tag is not current and goes back a couple of years I think, to a totally different version of the article. By all means, remove it, it should be gone already! I agree with your other remarks, and commend you for your major role in renovating and improving this article to a reasonable standard! [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 18:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Allegations have been made that thousands of illegal immigrants attempting to reach Europe have died since 1986.
== What to do about this article? ==


In order to arrive to the sea, the dangerous passage of the [[Sahara]] is necessary. People have crossed it on trucks and off-road vehicles along the tracks between [[Sudan]], [[Chad]], [[Niger]] and [[Mali]] one one side and Libya and Algeria on the other. On this passage at least 1,069 people have died since 1996. The Libyan, Algerian and Morocan Governments have been accused of abandoning hundreds of migrants in open desert border areas.
From the introduction, I have the impression that this article discusses one particular theory about Hungarian prehistory. I also have the impression it's actually not the most common one. It therefore seems to me wrong to title this article "Hungarian prehistory". I also don't think an article that argues its own point so strongly ("false theories of"). If this article is to be retained in this shape at all, it seems better to me to name this one "Kiszely István pronounced opinions on Hungarian prehistory". My preference however would be to merge whatever can be salvaged from this article with another one. [[User:Martijn faassen|Martijn Faassen]] 13:59, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


Abuse has been reported of migrants in Libya. There are not any official data, but in 2006 Human Rights Watch and AFVIC accused Tripoli of arbitrary arrests, beatings and tortures in the migrant detention centers,{{Fact|date=November 2007}} In September 2000 in Zawiyah, in northwest Libya, at least 560 foreigners were killed in racist attacks.{{Fact|date=November 2007}}
:You should check out the talk page archives. You're not the first to bring this up. Some folks claimed this as a type of POV fork to relieve pressure the other Hungarian history pages were getting. I think the original protagonists might be gone by now though. In some ways I haven't done anything because I'm too lazy to fix it. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] 15:29, 18 September 2007 (UTC)


247 stowaways in trucks were found dead in Albania, France, Germany, Greece, Turkey, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Hungary.
Rewrite... A general question prompted by a review of the section titles. Should we organize this article based upon chronology and intersperse the different theories at major event "locations"? Right now it breaks down into an overview of the different disciplines being used then ends with a singular conclusion and alternative theories. The discipline review section is useful I think, but the meat of the article should be about Hungarian prehistory. Chronology is iffy though because it isn't settled so maybe a review of the major events could be written. I'm somewhat also of the mind to add a terminology section. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 20:07, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


There are still minefields along the Evros river between the Greece-Turkey border.{{Fact|date=November 2007}}
:Soooo... I'm trying to modify this article by presenting the different theories of "Hungarian prehistory", but since I don't read much Hungarian [http://istvandr.kiszely.hu/ostortenet/index.html] and the different claims in the article were not cited, I can't tell what came from Istvan Kiszely and what was Fred Hamori's interpretation. So please excuse me if I cite someone wrong or remove something. I expect you all to correct me. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 21:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


Additionally, 51 people drowned crossing rivers delimiting the frontier between Croatia and Bosnia; Turkey and Greece; Slovakia and Austria; and Slovenia and Italy.{{Fact|date=November 2007}} Forty-one people froze to death travelling over the icy mountains at the border between Turkey, Greece and Slovakia;{{Fact|date=November 2007}} 20 people died under the trains in the Channel tunnel trying to reach England;{{Fact|date=November 2007}} 33 people were shot dead by Spanish and Moroccan police or injured along the border fence of Ceuta and Melilla Spanish enclaves in Morocco;{{Fact|date=November 2007}} 11 people burnt when a deportation center in the Netherlands caught fire;{{Fact|date=November 2007}} and eight men were found dead hidden in the undercarriages of planes.{{Fact|date=November 2007}}
::It sure is a far cry from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hungarian_Old_Country%2C_The-:_by_Dr._Istvan_Kiszely&oldid=6729796 The original incarnation] which is barely readable! Keep up the good work, we'll turn this into a wikipedia article yet! [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 23:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)


==Methods==
== Blood Groups in Suomi (Finland) and Unkari (Hungary) ==
===Border crossing===
[[Image:Office of CBP Air and Marine helicopter and boats.jpg|thumb|Border control at sea by the [[U.S. Customs and Border Protection]]]]
Immigrants from nations that do not have automatic visa agreements, or who would not otherwise qualify for a visa, often cross the borders illegally in some areas like the [[United States–Mexico border]], the Mona Channel between the [[Dominican Republic]] and [[Puerto Rico]], the [[Strait of Gibraltar]], [[Fuerteventura]], and the [[Strait of Otranto]]. Because these methods are illegal, they are often dangerous. Would-be immigrants have been known to suffocate in [[Containerization|shipping containers]],<ref>CBC News, [http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2000/01/10/migrants000110.html Three illegal migrants die in shipping container]. November 11, 2000. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].</ref> [[boxcar]]s,<ref>Siskind Susser Bland, [http://www.visalaw.com/98aug/33aug98.html At least 52 immigrants die of heat crossing from Mexico]. Retrieved on [[2007-10-03]].</ref> and trucks [http://english.people.com.cn/english/200103/06/eng20010306_64193.html], sink in [[shipwreck]]s caused by unseaworthy vessels [http://pakistantimes.net/2004/10/05/top5.htm], die of [[dehydration]] [http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=21975] or [[exposure]] during long walks without water. An official estimate puts the number of people who died in illegal crossings across the U.S.-Mexican border between 1998 and 2004 at 1,954 (see [[immigrant deaths along the U.S.-Mexico border]]).


[[Human smuggling]] is the practice of intermediaries aiding illegal immigrants in crossing over international borders in financial gain, often in large groups. Human smuggling differs from, but is sometimes associated with, [[human trafficking]]. A human smuggler will facilitate [[illegal entry]] into a country for a fee, but on arrival at their destination, the smuggled person is usually free. Trafficking involves a process of using physical force, [[fraud]], or [[deception]] to obtain and transport people.
Please delete the mention of Finno Ugrians from blood group comparation. Here are the Finnish most common blood grops; A: 44 per cent, O: 31 per cent, B: 17 per cent, AB 8 per cent. Same per centage with distribution with O and B than in Hungary. One remark of blood group "B"; ''The arrival of the Scythians was no feature of of steppe life style. During the successive nomandic invasions, some Slav and other communities in the western steppe, in spite of conflict with the incoming nomands, had continued to farm their lands and raise cattle, sometimes serving in the armies of their nomand rulers, whose tax-gatherers and merchants they supplied with tribute. Common inter-marriage added new strains to the Slav stock both before the Scythian period and later, during the invasions of Avars, Huns, and other Turkic peoples. This may account for the relatively high proportion of people in the "B" blood group (common today in Central Asia and dominant in Mongolia) in the Don and Dinjeper (Dnjeper) basins.''


Types of notorious human smugglers include [[Snakehead (gang)|Snakehead]] [[gang]]s present in [[mainland China]] (especially in [[Fujian]]) that smuggle laborers into [[Pacific Rim]] nations (making [[Chinatown]]s frequent centers of illegal immigration) [http://www.geocities.com/humanperil/FUZHOU.html] and "coyotes," who smuggle illegal immigrants to the [[Southwestern United States]] and have been known to abuse or even kill their passengers. [http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060723-9999-1m23killed.html] Sometimes immigrants are abandoned by their human traffickers if there are difficulties, often dying in the process. Others may be victims of intentional killing. In many spots on the U.S.-Mexico border, there are "rape trees" on which either condoms or the undergarments of women sexually abused by the "coyotes" are hung as trophies. [http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=66076DB4-78A9-40EB-92F5-07DF05FB4C40][http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/immigration042107.htm][http://www.magic-city-news.com/Paul_Streitz_67/Border_Breakdown_37813781.shtml]
Could "Etelköz" be connected via Finno-Ugrian language stock to Finnish Cardinal Direction Etelä / Eteläinen = South / Southern?. Etelänmaa = Southern(land). Meaning "Land between southern rivers". Regards. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.115.127.228|88.115.127.228]] ([[User talk:88.115.127.228|talk]]) 18:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


===Overstaying a visa===
:: Most probably not, the widely accepted explanation is Etel = water in ancient Hungarian, köz = between; so "land between the rivers", nothing to do with "South" [[User:Abdulka|Abdulka]] ([[User talk:Abdulka|talk]]) 13:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
Some illegal immigrants enter a country legally and then overstay or violate their [[Visa (document)|visa]]. [http://www.workpermit.com/news/2005_10_24/us/immigrants_overstay_visas_us.htm] For example, most of the estimated 200,000 illegal immigrants in [[Canada]] (perhaps as high as 500,000), are refugee claimants whose refugee applications were rejected but who have not yet been ejected from the country.<ref>{{cite news | author = Marina Jimenez | url = http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/Page/document/v4/sub/MarketingPage?user_URL=http://www.theglobeandmail.com%2Fservlet%2Fstory%2FLAC.20031115.UILLE15%2FTPStory%2F%3Fquery%3DCanada%2527s%2Bunderground%2Beconomy%2B&ord=1155738419213&brand=theglobeandmail&force_login=true| title = 200,000 illegal immigrants toiling in Canada's underground economy | publisher = Globe and Mail| date= 2003-11-15}}</ref>


A related way of becoming an illegal immigrant is through bureaucratic means. For example, a person can be allowed to remain in a country - or be protected from expulsion - because he/she needs special pension for a medical condition, etc., without being able to regularize his/her situation and obtain a work and/or residency permit, let alone [[naturalization]]. Hence, categories of people being neither illegal immigrants nor legal citizens are created, living in a judicial "no man's land". Another example is formed by children of foreigners born in countries observing ''[[jus soli]]'' ("right of territory"), such as [[France]]. In that country, one may obtain French nationality if one is born in France - but, due to recent legislative changes, it is only granted at the age of eighteen, and only upon request.
== Dentumogeria and Levedia ==


===Fraudulent marriage===
Dentumogeria and the Dentumogers comes from Anonymous' Gesta Hungarorum. Levedia comes from Constantine Porphyrogenitus. The old version of this article wants to combine Levedia and Dentumogeria, but I think they can't be combined. Levedia is mentioned as being in a specific place. I don't have enough information from Gesta Hungarorum yet (because there isn't a good English translation available of it yet?). Anyone here have more info on Dentumogeria and Levedia? Rona-Tas also makes a case for the point of view that Levedia didn't exist. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 00:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
A third way to enter a country is to engage in a sham marriage, registering as married with the government for the purpose of obtaining papers for one half of the partnership in exchange for monetary or other considerations. The first U.S. case involving one of these marriages arranged over the internet is currently being prosecuted. [http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/12/07/green.card.ap/index.html]


==Legal and political status==
:: What do you think of [[Herbert Illig]] who prooves works under Constantine Porphyrogenitus were delibretaly made fake ? [[User:Abdulka|Abdulka]] ([[User talk:Abdulka|talk]]) 13:24, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:''See also: [[Illegal immigration to the United States]], [[Immigration to the United States]], [[Australian immigration]], [[Immigration to the United Kingdom]], [[Immigration to Canada]], [[Illegal immigrants in Malaysia]], [[Hazleton, Pennsylvania#Sanctions against illegal immigrants|Hazleton, Pennsylvania]]''.


Many countries have had or currently have laws restricting immigration for economic or [[nationalism|nationalistic]] political reasons. Whether a person is permitted to stay in a country legally may be decided by [[Emergency Quota Act|quota]]s or point systems or may be based on considerations such as family ties (marriage, elderly mother, etc.). Exceptions relative to political refugees or to sick people are also common. Immigrants who do not participate in these legal proceedings or who are denied permission under them and still enter or stay in the country are illegal immigrants. [http://149.101.23.2/graphics/publicaffairs/factsheets/948.htm]
:::Firstly, I think using the word 'proves' is incorrect since all Illig has is a theory which mainstream considers as crazy. Second, I'm not sure what bearing you think that has on this article. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 17:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


Most countries have laws requiring workers to have proper documentation, often intended to prevent or minimize the employment of unauthorized immigrants. However the penalties against employers are often small and the acceptable identification requirements vague and ill-defined as well as being seldom checked or enforced, making it easy for employers to hire unauthorized labor. Unauthorized immigrants are especially popular with many employers because they can pay less than the legal [[minimum wage]] or have unsafe working conditions, secure in the knowledge that few unauthorized workers will report the abuse to the authorities. Often the minimum wages in one country can be several times the prevailing wage in the unauthorized immigrant's country, making even these jobs attractive to the unauthorized worker.
== Sources ==


In response to the outcry following popular knowledge of [[the Holocaust]], the newly-established [[United Nations]] held an international conference on [[refugees]], where it was decided that refugees (legally defined to be people who are persecuted in their original country and then enter another country seeking safety) should be exempted from immigration laws. [http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/o_c_ref.htm] It is, however, up to the countries involved to decide if a particular immigrant is a refugee or not, and hence whether they are subject to the immigration controls.
Honestly, the whole sources section could really be split off into some other article entitled perhaps like [[Sources for Hungarian prehistory]]. If any of you are familiar with Rona-Tas' book ''Hungarians and Europe in the Early Middle Ages'', you'll know that he devotes more than 100 pages for a chapter on sources alone. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 03:59, 28 December 2007 (UTC)


The right to [[freedom of movement]] of an individual within National borders is often contained within the [[constitution]] or in a country's [[human rights]] legislation but these rights are restricted to [[citizen]]s and exclude all others. Some argue that the freedom of movement both within and between countries is a basic human right and that [[nationalism]] and immigration policies of state governments violate this human right that those same governments recognize within their own borders. According to the [[Universal Declaration of Human Rights]], fundamental human rights are violated when citizens are forbidden to leave their country. (Article 13). However, immigrants are not assured the right to enter a country, that right is given at the host country's discretion.
:Interesting. There used to be such a page, but it looks like it was of little value and got merged. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sources_of_early_Hungarian_history&oldid=145330230 --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 06:54, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


Since illegal immigrants without proper legal status have no valid identification documents such as [[identity card]]s, they may have reduced or no access to [[public health]] systems, proper housing, [[education]] and [[bank]]s. This lack of access may result in the creation or expansion of illegal underground forgery to provide this documentation. [http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/viewArticle.asp?articleID=9736].
::I realize it is the holidays and people who may want to comment on my changes haven't had a chance yet, but I really want to see how my improvements bare out. So I jumped the gun and restored [[Sources of early Hungarian history]], moved it to [[Sources for Hungarian prehistory]], then moved the sources section to it. The only thing I'm unsure of is which books listed in the References section should be moved/copied over. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 18:01, 30 December 2007 (UTC)


When the authorities are overwhelmed in their efforts to stop illegal immigration, they have historically provided [[amnesty]]. Amnesties, which are becoming less tolerated by the citizenry, [http://www.tscl.org/NewContent/102756.asp] waive the "subject to deportation" clause associated with illegal aliens.
== Inanna ==


==By region==
Either way, it needs fixing. First, we should probably cite where David Rohl identifies Nimrod with Enmerkar. Second, there is a logic jump being made regarding Inanna being equated with Eneth. The question isn't "if she is to be equated" but "how is she to be equated". The way the current paragraph is constructed doesn't communicate the "how" very well. Understand?
===Angola===
From the article:{{Bquote|Nimrod the hunter, founder of Erech, is more plausibly identified by David Rohl with Enmerkar, founder of Uruk.
In 2007 around 44,000 Congolese were forced to leave [[Angola]].<ref>[http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L06594708.htm Angolan soldiers rape, beat Congolese migrants - group]</ref> Since 2004, more than 400,000 illegal immigrants, almost all from the [[Democratic Republic of the Congo]], have been expelled from Angola.<ref>[http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=68&art_id=qw1142436241852B252 IOL: Angola warns against illegal immigration]</ref><ref>[http://www.monuc.org/news.aspx?newsID=17514 Angola expels thousands of Congolese]</ref>


===Argentina===
The mother of the twin sons in the Hungarian version is Eneth, Enech or Eneh, who is the wife of either Menrot (Nimrod) or of Japheth. If she is to be equated with the Sumerian goddess Inanna, she may have originally been the wife of both men, and a great many others beside. The Sumerian legends of "Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta" describe vividly how the powerful Inanna, something of a kingmaker in her time, abandoned the king of Aratta, who is called Ensuhkeshdanna, and awarded the kingship of Erech to Enmerkar.}}
Illegal immigration has been a relatively important factor in recent [[Argentine]] demographics. Most illegal immigrants come from [[Bolivia]], and [[Paraguay]], countries which border [[Argentina]] to the north. Smaller numbers arrive from [[Chile]], [[Uruguay]], [[Brazil]], [[Ukraine]], [[Peru]], [[Ecuador]], [[Romania]], [[Dominican Republic]], [[Cuba]] and the People's Republic of [[China]]{{Fact|date=July 2008}}. The Argentine government estimates that 750,000 inhabitants lack official documents and has launched a program called Patria Grande ("Greater Homeland"), to encourage illegal immigrants to regularize their status; so far some 200,000 applications have been processed under the program.


===Bhutan===
How about something like:{{Bquote|The mother of the twin sons in the Hungarian version is Eneth (also Enech or Eneh). She was the wife of either Menrot (Nimrod) or of Japheth. If Nimrod is identified as Enmerkar, then Eneth could be equated with the Sumerian goddess Inanna. In the Sumerian legend of ''Enmerkar and the Lord of Aratta'', Inanna abandons the Lord of Aratta and becomes Enmerkar's queen.}}
[[Immigration in Bhutan]] by Nepalese settlers ([[Lhotshampa]]) began slowly towards the end of the 19th century.
In 1985, the government passed a new ''Citizenship Act'' which clarified and attempted to enforce the 1958 ''Citizenship Act'' to control the flood of illegal immigration. Those individuals who could not provide proof of residency prior to 1958 were adjudged to be illegal immigrants. In 1991-92, [[Bhutan]] expelled roughly 100,000 ethnic [[Nepal]]is, most of whom have been living in seven refugee camps in eastern Nepal ever since. The [[United States]] has offered to resettle 60,000 of the 107,000 Bhutanese refugees of Nepalese origin now living in U.N. refugee camps in Nepal.<ref>{{cite news | url = http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7082586.stm | title = Bhutan refugees are 'intimidated' | author = Bhaumik, Subir | date = [[November 7]], [[2007]] | work = BBC News | accessdate = 2008-09-19}}</ref>


===Chile===
I hope later to expand upon the two lines of thought presented in the written sources regarding Nimrod versus Japheth. Basically whoever first wrote this is trying to accommodate for the differences in a vague manner. In a lot of ways doing that reminds me of how the ancient authors wrote their histories and created the differences to begin with!
[[Chile]] has recently become a new pole of attraction for illegal immigrants, mostly from the neighboring countries such as [[Peru]] and [[Bolivia]]. According to the national census of 2002 the foreign populations have increased by 75% since 1992.[http://www.lanacion.com.ar/archivo/Nota.asp?nota_id=920108]


===China===
--[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 17:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
[[People's Republic of China]] is building a security barrier along its border with [[North Korea]] to prevent the defectors or refugees from North Korea.<ref>[http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/paperchase/2006/10/china-building-border-fence-facing.php China building border fence facing North Korea]</ref>


===European Union===
:That does sound a little better, but note I did find and add a source (Hargity again) who apparently does identify Eneth with Inanna. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 18:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
The European Union is developing a common system for immigration and asylum and a single external border control strategy.


In [[France]], helping an illegal immigrant (providing shelter, for example) is prohibited by a law passed on December 27, 1994 [http://www.monde-diplomatique.fr/1995/06/ROCHU/1546]. The law was heavily criticized by [[non-governmental organization]]s (NGOs) such as the CIMADE and the [[GISTI]], left-wing political parties such as the [[Greens (France)|Greens]] and the [[French Communist Party]], and [[trade-union]]s such as the magistrates' ''[[Syndicat de la magistrature]]''.
==Disputed==
I have reinserted the deleted tags from the article. The article clearly needs more citations and I indicated the most urgent places. Exceptional claims need exceptional references, so please do not cite obscure websites, but real peer-reviewed academic works. In addition to missing citations, here are points with doubtful accuracy and neutrality. I hope someone here will be able to fix them:
*<s>I do not know any evidence supporting the article's claim that Onogurs were part of Xiongnu.</s>
*<s>The Hunnic origin of Székely is a medieval myth and should be presented as such.</s>
*The article claims "The place where the Magyars could first be identified as a distinct people was supposedly Central Asia in the end of the 3rd or beginning of 4th century AD." What does the word "supposedly" mean here? Who says so? What is the evidence?
*The presence of Magyars in Central Asia seems to be based on two toponyms distantly resembling the word Magyar. Is this [[WP:OR|original research]] or this claim can be supported by published sources?
*Al-Makdisi and al-Biruni could hardly write about Magyars living in Central Asia in the 3rd century because these two gentlemen lived in the 10th and 11th century.
*The "Speculations on mythic origins"section is not appropriate. A modern encyclopedia should not claim than a nation may descend from the Biblical patriarch [[Japheth]] or the Sumerian goddess [[Inanna]]. The whole section is written in an uncritical way and should be either removed or profoundly revised. [[User:Tankred|Tankred]] ([[User talk:Tankred|talk]]) 04:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


The Turkish newspaper Hürriyet published stories once in July 2004 and a second time in May 2006 that [[Hellenic Coast Guard]] ships were caught on film cruising as near as a few hundred meters off the Turkish coast and abandoning clandestine immigrants to the sea. This practice allegedly resulted in the drowning of six people between [[Chios]] and [[Karaburun Peninsula, İzmir|Karaburun Peninsula]] on [[26 September]] [[2006]] while three others disappeared and 31 were saved by Turkish gendarmes and fishermen.<ref> [http://deletetheborder.org/aggregator/sources/10 Delete the Border] quoting [[Khaleej Times]];
:I will add as many sources as possible, but it seems that you have, even before I start, taken it upon yourself to set the bar impossibly high with a view to suppressing the documentation of these beliefs. Of course if they are beliefs, they are not presented as fact. But I will not agree to have them brushed under the table even if they actually are false beliefs, because this is historiography, not history. Labelling the Bible as "mythology", you should hopefully be old enough to realize by now, is an excellent way to start off on a very bad foot by imposing your own point-of-view and pretending that it is "neutral". NPOV policy is very specific about not attacking belief systems that are widely held as sacred by a significant number of people today, such as the Quran, the Bible, and the Bhagavad Gita, for example. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 12:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[http://www.adnki.com/index_2Level_English.php?cat=Security&loid=8.0.344294326&par=0 ADN Kronos] Survivors of the immigrant boat tragedy accuse Greeks (in [[English language|English]]) - [http://hurarsiv.hurriyet.com.tr/goster/haber.aspx?id=5115588&tarih=2006-09-20]
[http://proje.hurriyet.com.tr/msnnews/?path=/gundem/5152587.asp&y=41] [http://proje.hurriyet.com.tr/msnnews/?path=/gundem/5155756.asp&y=41]. The newspaper [[Hürriyet]] (in [[Turkish language|Turkish]]). Three of the drowned were [[Tunisian people|Tunisians]], one was [[Algerian people|Algerian]], one [[Palestinian people|Palestinian]] and the other [[Iraqi people|Iraqi]]. The three disappeared were also Tunisians. </ref> However, there are numerous non-Turkish claims and testimonies that Turkish authorities and/or citizens lead immigrants through the sea, often resulting to the abandonment and sometimes drowning of said immigrants.


A tough new [[EU]] immigration law detaining illegal immigrants for up to 18 months before deportation has triggered outrage across [[Latin America]], with Venezuelan President [[Hugo Chavez]] threatening to cut off [[Oil consumption|oil exports]] to Europe.<ref>[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25275157/ Chavez: Europe risks oil over immigrant law]</ref><ref>[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,369389,00.html Venezuela's Chavez Threatens to Deny Oil, Investments to EU Over Immigration Laws]</ref>
::Thank you for adding references to the article. In my previous comment, I stroke those issues that seem to be resolved by your most recent edits. Speaking of which, does the book ''Selected Hungarian Legends'' really say that "Emeshe" means "priestess" in the Sumerian language? Unfortunately, I cannot find this book anywhere in the libraries, to which I have access. As to the beliefs, I do not want to deprive anyone of their right to believe in Innana or Japeth. But most reasonable people would perhaps question credibility of an encyclopedic article claiming that a modern nation may in fact trace its ancestors to Innana or Japeth. That is why I am not happy about how the " Speculations on mythic origins" section looks like. Similarly, Kiszely's work in the "Migration" section is presented uncritically despite the fact that it is regarded as controversial in the scientific community. Some criticism from the mainstream science should be included IMO. Anyway, I hope you will keep up the good work you are doing here. [[User:Tankred|Tankred]] ([[User talk:Tankred|talk]]) 18:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


===Greece===
:You guys are both right. Regarding what Tankred wrote, those problems stem from the original form of the article where the original writers gave a bibliography at the bottom of the page, but didn't match up the claims in the article with those references. It would be useful if someone with access to those references could provide the proper citations. Regarding what Til Eulenspiegel wrote, presenting the information as beliefs instead of fact is probably the way to go. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 18:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
After the opening of the [[Albania]]n borders in 1991, a huge influx of [[Albanians|Albanian]] economic migrants crossed illegally into [[Greece]] in order to find work. They are currently estimated at about 600,000-800,000, but an accurate calculation is very difficult because of the large percentage of illegal immigrants.<ref>[http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ei/bgn/3395.htm Background Note: Greece]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/385459.stm Greece launches illegal immigrant crackdown]</ref>


===India===
: 'Theories' about Biblical and Sumerian origins for Hungarians should not be mentioned in this article. Not one respected historian believes or propagates these theories. Not a single one. It is ranks alongside the 'science' of Erik von Daniken. The fact that a handful of - let's say - 'creative historians' have fantasized about it doesn't make it worthwhile including it in a HISTORICAL article on Wikipedia. I've also read about theories that claim that Hungarians came from space - surely we can't give every nutty theory a place on here! I would very much ask for the removal of Sumerian and Biblical references. Or at least label them as fantasy/pseudo-scientific/trivia about charlatan mock-historians. Best! - a concerned Sumerian 21:57, 04 April 2008 (UTC)
The [[Indo-Bangladeshi barrier]] is 4,000 kilometers (2,500 miles) long. Presently, [[India]] is constructing a fence along the border to restrict illegal traffic from [[Bangladesh]].<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/4653810.stm Villagers left in limbo by border fence]</ref> This obstruction will virtually isolate Bangladesh from India. The barrier's plan is based on the designs of the [[Israeli West Bank barrier]] and will be 3.6 m (11.8 ft) high. The stated aim of the fence is to stop infiltration of terrorists, prevent smuggling, and to bring a close to illegal immigration from Bangladesh.<ref>[http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1170359860662&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/Printer The good fences epidemic]</ref><ref>[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article782933.ece India builds a 2,500-mile barrier to rival the Great Wall of China]</ref>


===Iran===
: Yepp, it's really weird for me, even I'm Hungarian, to read those fairy tales about the Sumerian origins. According to the current political situation, in the last 150-200 years "theories" of the Hungarians' origin were changed almost year-by-year. So let's stay at the Finno-Ugric roots, that seems to be the most likely according to the history and ethnography actual state. '''Drkazmer''' [[Special:Contributions/146.110.9.131|146.110.9.131]] ([[User talk:146.110.9.131|talk]]) 22:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Since late April 2007, the [[Iran]]ian government has forcibly deported back to [[Afghanistan]] nearly 100,000 registered and unregistered [[Demography of Afghanistan|Afghans]] living and working in Iran. The forceful evictions of the refugees, who have lived in Iran and [[Pakistan]] for nearly three decades, are part of the two countries' larger plans to repatriate all Afghan refugees within a few years. Iran says it will send 1,000,000 by next March, and Pakistan announced that all 2,400,000 Afghan refugees, most living in camps, must return home by 2009. Experts say it will be 'disastrous' for Afghanistan.<ref>[http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/article.aspx?id=834 Iranian Deportations Raise Fears of Humanitarian Crisis in Afghanistan]</ref><ref>[http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0214/p06s02-wosc.html To root out Taliban, Pakistan to expel 2.4 million Afghans]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6705329.stm Expelled from Iran - refugee misery]</ref>


===Libya===
== East of the Urals ==
[[Libya]] is home to a large illegal [[Sub-Saharan Africa]]n population which numbers as much as 2,000,000.<ref>[http://www.pr-inside.com/libya-asserts-its-right-to-deport-r394573.htm Libya asserts its right to deport 2 million illegal immigrants in face of criticism]</ref> The mass expulsion plan to summarily deport all undocumented foreigners was announced by Libyan leader Colonel [[Muammar al-Gaddafi]] in January 2008. "No resident without a legal visa will be excluded."<ref>[http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4157350 Libya to Deport Illegal Immigrants]</ref> <ref>[http://hrw.org/english/docs/2008/01/17/libya17810.htm Libya: Summary Deportations Would Endanger Migrants and Asylum Seekers]</ref>


===Malaysia===
This is really ridiculous. The other Urheimat theories have been excluded to benefit of the "east of the Urals" theory. (see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hungarian_prehistory&diff=217919151&oldid=217906365) That has the potential to start an edit war between editors with conflicting ''academic'' sources. Are we to take Kristó Gyula over Rona-Tas? Rona-Tas writes that the Ugric groups were primarily in the western Urals with splinter groups possibly to the east and that the Magyars ultimately came from the Volga-Kama region, being primarily in the western and southern parts of the Ugric Urheimat. Rona-Tas is just as respected a source as Kristo Gyula! --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 16:19, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
{{Main|Illegal immigrants in Malaysia}}
::I'll get this better cited. Didn't have time to expand and clarify originally. My objection is more to the complete removal. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 17:20, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
An ethnic [[Malaysian Indian|Indian Malaysian]] was recently sentenced to whipping and 10 months in prison for hiring six illegal immigrants at his restaurant. "I think that after this, Malaysian employers will be afraid to take in foreign workers (without work permits). They will think twice," said immigration department prosecutor Azlan Abdul Latiff. “This is the first case where an employer is being sentenced to caning,” he told. Illegal immigrants also face caning before being deported.<ref>[http://www.malaysianbar.org.my/content/view/10390/2/ Malaysian man receives unusually harsh punishment for employing illegals]</ref> There are an estimated 800,000 illegal immigrants in [[Malaysia]]. <ref>[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1832645.cms Indians among illegal immigrants rounded up in Malaysia]
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===Mexico===
:I want to additionally point out that this article started out as a POV fork of alternative theories to the Finno-Ugric theory because editors were pushing too hard the FU POV. If you start excluding even accepted alternate academic theories, this article will have no hope of ever becoming good. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 16:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
In the first six months of 2005 alone, more than 120,000 people from [[Central America]] have been deported to their countries of origin. This is a significantly higher rate than in 2002, when for the entire year, only 130,000 people were deported [http://www.jornada.unam.mx/2005/08/24/018n3pol.php]. Another important group of people are those of Chinese origin, who pay about $5,500 to smugglers to be taken to Mexico from [[Hong Kong]]. It is estimated that 2.4% of rejections for work permits in Mexico correspond to Chinese citizens [http://www.cimacnoticias.com/noticias/01dic/01122403.html]. Many women from [[Eastern Europe]], [[Asia]], the United States, and [[Central America|Central]] and [[South America]] are also offered jobs at [[table dance]] establishments in large cities throughout the country causing the [[National Institute of Migration]] (INM) in Mexico to raid [[strip clubs]] and deport foreigners who work without the proper documentation [http://www.tvazteca.com/hechos/archivos2/2004/10/102327.shtml]. In 2004, the INM deported 188,000 people at a cost of [[United States dollar|$]]10 million [http://www.migracion.gob.mx/paginas/entrevistas/entrevista10feb2004.htm].
Illegal immigration of Cubans through [[Cancún]] tripled from 2004 to 2006.
[http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/415621.html]


===Russia===
::I think that all alternate theories may be mentioned in the article, but we should avoid pushing them. Moreover, I think that proper reference ought to be made to each of the sentences. I suggest that we should avoid that third party readers of articles related to the history of East-Europe would find that this region of the world is exclusively habitated by the descendants of the ancienest and most civilized peoples (proto-Slovaks living in the region for thousand years, Daco-Romans also living in the regions for immemorable times and Hungarians who are indegenous in the Carpathian Basin and descending from the Sumers). [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 06:57, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Russia experiences a constant flow of immigration. On average, 200,000 legal immigrants enter the country every year; about half are ethnic [[Russians]] from the other republics of the former Soviet Union. In addition, there are an estimated 10-12 million illegal immigrants in the country.<ref>{{cite web|title=Russia cracking down on illegal migrants|publisher=International Herald Tribune|date=[[January 15]], [[2007]]|url=http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/15/news/migrate.php|accessdate =}}</ref> There has a significant influx of ethnic [[Georgians]], [[Armenians]], [[Azerbaijanis]], [[Tajiks]], and [[Uzbeks]] into big Russian cities in recent years, which has been viewed very unfavorably by many citizens, and has given rise to [[nationalist]] sentiments.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2452989.stm Moscow to deport Tajiks by air]</ref><ref>[http://english.pravda.ru/news/hotspots/06-10-2006/84915-Georgia_Russia-0 Russian police determined to oust Georgians from Moscow]</ref><ref>[http://russiatoday.ru/news/news/2622 Russian nationalists protest against illegal immigration in Irkutsk]</ref> Many immigrant ethnic groups have much higher birth rates than native Russians, further shifting the balance. Some [[Chinese people|Chinese]] flee the overpopulation and birth control regulations of their home country and settle in the [[Russian Far East|Far East]] and in southern [[Siberia]]. Russia’s main Pacific port and naval base of [[Vladivostok]], once closed to foreigners, today is bristling with Chinese markets, restaurants and trade houses.<ref>[http://www.terradaily.com/reports/Chinese_Come_To_Russia.html Chinese Come To Russia]</ref> Experts predict that the [[Chinese diaspora]] in [[Russia]] will increase to at least 10 million by 2010 and Chinese may become the dominant ethnic group in the Russian Far East region 20 to 30 years from now.<ref>[http://www.worldpress.org/Asia/1651.cfm A Chinese 'Invasion']</ref><ref>[http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/8/24/90356.shtml Chinese Presence Grows in Russian Far East]</ref><ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/1740777.stm Vladivostok's Chinese puzzle]</ref>


===Saudi Arabia===
::Just also want to thank you for working on the article. There is a lot I intended to do with it, but like always, I get to doing something else and don't have time for it. That is my excuse for why not everything is cited properly. I usually write first and cite later... --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 16:27, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Saudi Arabia]] has begun construction of a separation barrier between its territory and [[Yemen]] to prevent the unauthorized movement of people and goods into and out of the kingdom. ''See [[Saudi-Yemen barrier]]''.


In 2006 Saudi Arabia proposed plans for the construction of a security fence along the entire length of its 560-mile (900km) desert border with Iraq in a multimillion-pound project to secure the kingdom’s borders in order to improve internal security, control illegal [[immigration]] and bolster its defences against external threats. <ref>[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7374-2126835,00.html/ Saudis plan to fence off border with chaos, The Times, April 10, 2006].</ref>
:I think you misunderstand me because I said "alternate theories" and typically that is a euphemism for "crazy fringe theories". I agree, the article may give prominence to some fringe theories in certain places because that is the origin of the article (check out the earliest version of this article sometime) and that isn't so good because third party readers might get the wrong idea. This needs to be fixed. But what got removed was not a fringe theory. Let me write here the outline and this can probably get added to the article at some point.
*[[Saudi Iraq barrier]]
:The "east of the Urals" theory is based upon the supposed loan of Turkic words into the Hungarian language during the Ugric period. The only place this could have happened was in Western Siberia because that is where Turkic languages developed. Linguists like Andras Rona-Tas disagree with this because the words in question either are of Ugric origin instead of Turkic, or did not actually get borrowed into Hungarian during that time, or have some other disputed problem that isn't likely to be solved. Instead, there appears a strong Permic influence in Hungarian during this time that doesn't appear in the other Ugric languages. This suggests a "west of the Urals" location, specifically at the boundary between Permic and Ugric speakers (Volga-Kama region).
:Also, I think it is important to remember that all of this history is based upon linguistics. So one should be careful to emphasize that aspect of the theory and not misrepresent it as being of a larger scope. To do so is to push what is considered the Stammbaum theory where language origin is the same as people origin. Unfortunately there is still a strong streak of that in the Finno-Ugric circles. It is not a theory that adequately reflects reality. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 16:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


===South Africa===
::Thanks for your remarks. It clear. I can also add references to your sentences, but references based on English-language works would be preferred. And I do not have any on this subject. Let's continue improving the article... Thanks! [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 20:22, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
[[South Africa]] is home to an estimated five million illegal immigrants, including some three million [[Zimbabwe]]ans.<ref>[http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/05/23/africa/23saf.php Anti-immigrant violence spreads in South Africa, with attacks reported in Cape Town]</ref><ref>[http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1277808,00.html Escape From Mugabe: Zimbabwe's Exodus]</ref><ref>[http://www.fin24.com/articles/default/display_article.aspx?ArticleId=1518-25_2035097 More illegals set to flood SA]</ref> Attacks on foreign nationals increased markedly in late 2007 and it is believed that there have been at least a dozen attacks since the start of 2008. A series of [[2008 South Africa riots|anti-immigrant riots]] occurred in South Africa beginning on May 11, 2008.<ref name="bbc">{{cite web
|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7396868.stm
|title=South African mob kills migrants
|publisher=BBC
|accessdate=2008-05-19}}</ref><ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/23/world/africa/23safrica.html?_r=1&ref=africa&oref=slogin Immigrants Fleeing Fury of South African Mobs]</ref>


===Syria===
:::My Andra Rona-Tas book is an English translation of ''A honfoglaló magyar nép'' (1996). It is quite good and I recommend it if you can get a copy. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 05:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Refugees of Iraq|Refugees from Iraq]] have increased in number since the U.S.-led invasion of that country in March 2003. The [[United Nations]] estimates that nearly 2,200,000 [[Iraq]]is have fled the country since 2003,<ref>[http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2640418.ece UN warns of five million Iraqi refugees]</ref> with nearly 100,000 fleeing to [[Syria]] and [[Jordan]] each month.<ref>[http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/11/03/un_nearly_100000_flee_iraq_monthly/ U.N.: 100,000 Iraq refugees flee monthly]. Alexander G. Higgins, ''[[Boston Globe]],'' [[November 3]], [[2006]]</ref><Ref>[http://www.milforddailynews.com/opinion/8998973966395637759 Take Iraqi refugees in]</ref> Most ventured to Jordan and Syria, creating demographic shifts that have worried both governments. Refugees are mired in poverty as they are generally barred from working in their host countries.<ref>[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6293807.stm Doors closing on fleeing Iraqis]</ref><ref>[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/09/asia/refugees.php Iraq's middle class escapes, only to find poverty in Jordan]</ref>


Syrian authorities worried that the new influx of refugees would limit the country's resources. Sources like oil, heat, water and electricity were said to be becoming more scarce as demand had gone up.<ref>[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/07/23/MNGPCR4S601.DTL&feed=rss.news Displaced Iraqis running out of cash, and prices are rising]</ref> On October 1, 2007 news agencies reported that Syria re-imposed restrictions on Iraqi refugees, as stated by a spokesperson for the [[United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees]]. Under Syria's new rules, only Iraqi merchants, businessmen and university professors with [[visa]]s acquired from Syrian [[embassy|embassies]] may enter Syria.<ref>"Syria shuts border to Iraqi refugees - UNHCR" ''[[Reuters]]'' http://www.reuters.com/article/homepageCrisis/idUS119126393845._CH_.2400</ref><ref>Laura Zuber, "Syrian visa restrictions "trap" Iraqi refugees," ''uruknet.info'' of Italy http://uruknet.info/?p=m37030&s1=h1</ref><ref>"Syria restores visa limits" "BBC News"</ref>
== The Uralic, Finno-Ugric and Ugric periods ==


===Turkey===
This needs to be trimmed down. Adding history about the Uralic, Finno-Ugric, and Ugric speakers is outside the scope of the article and should only be done in a limited fashion that enhances some aspect of Hungarian history. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 16:24, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Turkey]] receives many economic migrants from nearby countries such as [[Armenia]], [[Georgia (country)|Georgia]], [[Azerbaijan]] and [[Iran]], but also from [[Afghanistan]], [[Central Asia]] and [[Pakistan]].<ref>[http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200601/10/eng20060110_234163.html Turkey captures over 500,000 illegal immigrants in past 10 years]</ref><ref>[http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-126177920.html Over one million illegal immigrants in Turkey: report.]</ref> The [[Iraq War]] is thought to have increased the flow of illegal immigration into Turkey, while the global parties directly involved in the conflict have been accused of extending a less-helping hand than Turkey itself to resolve the precarious situation of immigrants stranded in passage.<ref>[http://www.dradio.de/dlf/sendungen/europaheute/599804 Iraq's Christians on the run] (in [[German language|German]])</ref>
:I think it is reasonable. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 06:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


===United States===
== Migrations section ==
{{Main|Illegal immigration to the United States}}
Between 12 and 20 million illegal immigrants are estimated to be living in the [[United States]]; due to the nature of illegal immigration, the exact number is unknown.<ref>[http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0516/p01s02-ussc.html Illegal immigrants in the US: How many are there?], csmonitor.com</ref> The majority of the illegal immigrants are from [[Mexico]].<ref>[http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4703307 Study Details Lives of Illegal Immigrants in U.S.], NPR</ref> Illegal immigration has been a longstanding issue in the United States, creating immense controversy. [[Harvard University]] economist [[George J. Borjas]] explains that the controversy centers around the "huge redistribution [of wealth] away from [unskilled American] workers to [American employers] who use immigrants." <ref> David J. Lynch and Chris Woodyard, ''USA TODAY'', April 11, 2006. [http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2006-04-10-immigrants-economic-impact_x.htm Immigrants Claim Pivotal Role in Economy.]</ref> In 2007, President Bush called for Congress to endorse his guest worker proposal, stating that illegal immigrants took jobs that Americans would not take. <ref> David J. Lynch and Chris Woodyard, ''USA TODAY'', April 11, 2006. [http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/2006-04-10-immigrants-economic-impact_x.htm Immigrants Claim Pivotal Role in Economy.]</ref> The [[Pew Hispanic Center]] notes that while the number of legal immigrants (including LPRs, refugees, and asylees) arriving has not varied substantially since the 1980s, the number of illegal aliens has increased dramatically and, since the mid 1990s, has surpassed the number of [[Immigration to the United States|legal immigrants]]. [http://pewhispanic.org/files/reports/46.pdf] Penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants range from $2,000-$10,000 and up to six months' imprisonment. <ref>[http://ethanolmarket.aghost.net/index.cfm?show=801&id=070035C5&sort=2&cat=43 Penalties for Hiring Illegals.]</ref>


===Venezuela===
The Don-Kuban area (The Caucasian country) is a seriously considered theory by mainstream scholars so I moved it back into the Migrations section. I moved the legend stuff up near the other legend stuff because it doesn't talk at all about areas where Magyars supposedly settled. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 05:22, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
There are hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions of [[Emigration from Colombia|Colombia]]n immigrants living in [[Venezuela]].<ref>[http://www.migrationinformation.org/Profiles/display.cfm?ID=344 Colombia: In the Crossfire]</ref> In 1995, Venezuela announced plans to conduct a census to locate and deport illegal immigrants.<ref>[http://migration.ucdavis.edu/MN/more.php?id=1120_0_5_0 Immigration into Venezuela]</ref> An estimated 200,000 Colombians have fled the [[Colombian Civil War]] and sought safety in Venezuela. Most of them lack identity documents and this hampers their access to services, as well as to the labor market. The Venezuelan government had no specific policies on refugees.<ref>[http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/RWB.NSF/db900SID/LSGZ-7AYHES?OpenDocument Colombia: UNHCR signs agreement with Venezuelan "Banco del Pueblo Soberano"]</ref><ref>[http://www.childsoldiersglobalreport.org/content/venezuela Venezuela | Child Soldiers Global Report 2008]</ref>
:Agreed. It is a valid point. Sorry for having deleted it. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 07:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)


== Historians ==
==See also==
*[[Alien (law)]]
Do we need to name the historians we refer to in the text? For me, it suggest an alternate theory (Magyars from the Universe, and the similar staff). E.g., the existence of Levedia is questioned by other authors, as well. The Don-Kuban region is also supposed to be a place of settlements of the Magyars by other historians. Moreover, I suggest we should avoid mentioning theories that cannot be proved by nature (e.g., the Árpáds wanted to legitimise their rule, therefore they told lies to Constantinos VII; how can this statement be proved?). [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 07:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
*[[Aliyah Bet]]
*[[Illegal emigration]]
*[[Separation barrier]]
*[[Working under the table]]
*[[Illegal entry]]
*[[Free migration]]


==References==
:I'm not sure what you mean. These are the details of a larger theory, not alternate theories. These are the latest and greatest discussions that mainstream historians and other scholars are having regarding Magyar history, especially when there is no "set in stone" answer to a problem. They are certainly not on the level of an alternate theory of origin such as "Magyars come from Sumer". Also, there is no harm in providing published expert opinions on subject matter. The quote from Rona-Tas serves to illustrate why doubt is cast upon Levedia. It is not necessary to provide any proof on whether the opinion reflects the truth or not because the opinion is not being presented as a fact of history. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 15:07, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
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===Further reading===
::My only concern is that if we start to cite an opinion, the counter-opinions should also be cited, which would result in an endless article. E.g., Ferenc Makk wrote a long article (Makk, Ferend: A turulmadártól a kettős keresztig; Szegedi Középkorász Műhely, 1998, Szeged; ISBN 963 482 335 1; pages: 9-44) challenging nearly all the statements Róna-Tas had made. I think, for Wikipedia purposes, the fact that the existence of Levedia has been questioned would be enough. We should not be a "fan" of oppinions; historians will (or will not) decide. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 16:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
* Barkan, Elliott R. "Return of the Nativists? California Public Opinion and Immigration in the 1980s and 1990s." ''Social Science History'' 2003 27(2): 229-283. in Project Muse
* Vanessa B. Beasley, ed. ''Who Belongs in America?: Presidents, Rhetoric, And Immigration'' (2006)
* Borjas, G.J. "The economics of immigration," ''Journal of Economic Literature'', v 32 (1994), pp. 1667-717
* Cull, Nicholas J. and Carrasco, Davíd, ed. ''Alambrista and the US-Mexico Border: Film, Music, and Stories of Undocumented Immigrants'' U. of New Mexico Press, 2004. 225 pp.
* Thomas J. Espenshade; "Unauthorized Immigration to the United States" ''Annual Review of Sociology''. Volume: 21. 1995. pp 195+.
* Flores, William V. "New Citizens, New Rights: Undocumented Immigrants and Latino Cultural Citizenship" ''Latin American Perspectives'' 2003 30(2): 87-100
* Griswold, Daniel T.; "[http://www.freetrade.org/node/44 Willing Workers: Fixing the Problem of Illegal Mexican Migration to the United States]," Trade Policy Analysis no. 19, October 15, 2002.
* Kennedy, Marie and Chris Tilly, [http://www.dollarsandsense.org/archives/2008/0708kennedytilly.html 'They Work Here, They Live Here, They Stay Here!': French immigrants strike for the right to work—and win.] [[Dollars & Sense]], July/August 2008.
* Nicholas Laham; ''Ronald Reagan and the Politics of Immigration Reform'' Praeger Publishers. 2000.
* Lisa Magaña, ''Straddling the Border: Immigration Policy and the INS'' (2003)j63-a12036-m12i-3620+3e
* Mohl, Raymond A. "Latinization in the Heart of Dixie: Hispanics in Late-twentieth-century Alabama" ''Alabama Review'' 2002 55(4): 243-274. ISSN 0002-4341 9-4894945651
* Ngai, Mae M. ''Impossible Subjects: Illegal Aliens and the Making of Modern America'' (2004), 90952-15665
* Ngai, Mae M. "The Strange Career of the Illegal Alien: Immigration Restriction and Deportation Policy in the United States, 1921-1965" ''Law and History Review'' 2003 21(1): 69-107. ISSN 0738–2480 Fulltext in History Cooperative
* Mireille Rosello; "Representing Illegal Immigrants in France: From Clandestins to L'affaire Des Sans-Papiers De Saint-Bernard" ''Journal of European Studies'', Vol. 28, 1998 959525126
* [[Dowell Myers]] (2007), ''[[Immigrants and Boomers: Forging a New Social Contract for the Future of America]]'', Russell Sage Foundation, ISBN 978-0-87154-636-4.
* Tolley, Brett "Dying to Get In" Documentary (2006) [http://www.UndocumentedImmigration.com Undocumented Immigration Documentary]
* Tranaes, T. and Zimmermann, K.F. (eds), ''Migrants, Work, and the Welfare State'', Odense, University Press of Southern Denmark, (2004)
* Venturini, A. ''Post-War Migration in Southern Europe. An Economic Approach'' Cambridge University Press (2004)
* Zimmermann, K.F. (ed.), ''European Migration: What Do We Know?'' Oxford University Press, (2005)
* Range, Peter R., ''Europe faces an immigrant tide'' [[National Geographic Magazine]] May 1993


[[Category:Human migration]]
:::I think that is a valid concern. Let me explain my thinking and I hope to assuage that concern. Someone earlier had merged the stub article on Magna Hungaria into this one. There were also stub articles on Levedia and Etelkoz so I merged them into this article as well. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Levedia&oldid=179890984] The problem is that there isn't much to actually say about these locations outright. So I figure that going into more depth of what current historians are saying about these places, the sources for them, and the problems with each one that historians are discussing will give a better foundation for third party readers. When it comes to Hungarian prehistory, this foundation is fundamental I feel. Take for example the earlier version of this article confusing Dentumogeria with Levedia. Or the comments I wrote above in the Inanna section on this talk page regarding the confusion between descent from Japheth versus Nimrod and why that comes about. The main problem is that most of the good scholarly information is written in Hungarian and what a person can find in English tends to be skewed by the fringe theorists (primarily because the English translations of the fringe theories have a strong connection with the people who left Hungary in 1956). Because of this, it would actually be good to provide information on what all the prevailing arguments and counter arguments are. That will eventually give enough information to allow the recreation of larger articles on Levedia, Magna Hungaria, etc. When that occurs, the information here can be slimmed down to "general overview" style again with "see also" links. Please, I'm interested in what Ferenc Makk has to say on Levedia. Rona-Tas believes Levedia to be part of Etelkoz, but that didn't get added to the Levedia section. --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 19:20, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
[[Category:Illegal immigration]]
[[Category:Crimes]]


[[de:Unerlaubte Migration]]
::OK. I understand your point. Let's continue. I was also thinking that the article could be demerged into subarticles. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 02:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
[[es:Inmigración ilegal]]

[[eo:Kontraŭleĝa enmigrado]]
==Hanti and Mansi==
[[fr:Immigration illégale]]

[[ko:불법체류]]
Please change the name [[Khanty]] to its latinized form Hanti in the article, or at least change it in form Hanti ([[Khanty]]. The Khanty is the Russian version of their name written with Cyrillic letters. This is the same than calling Finns with Russian word Chuds, Thsuhnas or Tsuhodois. Hanti is their self name. Also version Handa-hui was used. In [[Tatar]] language they were called Ostjaks, Russificated to [[Ostyaks]]. And English language follows the Russificated version. They lived also along the River [[Kama]] (Kemi, Khem, Kymi, Khym), south of Komi-Permjakki [[Komi-Permyaks]], and were the next neighbours of [[Onugurs]], living also along the River [[Veher]] which is now known as Russian [[Belaya]]. In Russian history they were called Polovoi, later Polovitshi. English version of Russificated version is [[Polovichs]]. In Hungarian language [[Kuns]] or [[Kumans]], in Finnish [[Kumaani]]. Some of these Kun tribes (three?) followed Onogurs / Ongrs (Ungr) to west. Name Madjaar or Magyar had a direct connection with Mansi name which was used by Mansi to Hanti people which were also called Handa-hui. Those Mansis which stayed along Obi River called Hantis Ás-jáh (Obi people). This may be the origin for Tatar Ostjak name. Also some attention should (in my opinion) be paid to the Onogurs presence at Kiev area before they started their last wandering over the Carpathian mountains to Pannonia or Greek Phennonia.
[[it:Immigrazione clandestina]]
The hills located on the west bank of Dinjeper (five different names for the river were in use) were called Ugri hills. It is said that Bulümar Alyp-bi, Attila´s grandfather was buried there with symbols + and U in his stone tamga marking his nobelity among Hunnish tribes. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/88.112.185.234|88.112.185.234]] ([[User talk:88.112.185.234|talk]]) 07:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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== Notification of discussion on this article ==
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FYI: This article is currently being discussed at [[Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard#Hungarian_prehistory]]. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 14:36, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
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==Historiography section==
The relevant information in the first paragraph - which is about linguistics rather than historiography - is already available at [[Finno-Ugric languages]] under the section "History".

The second paragraph contains the following "information": "On the basis of these early forays, in 1870 in Budapest the Finno-Ugric theory of ethnogenesis was established with the support of the Academy in Vienna and proclaimed as fact with only the barest of linguistic support as evidence. The biggest proponent of this theory in the 19th century was the Saxon from Szepes, Pal Hunfalvy (Hunsdorfer), making common cause with Joseph Budenz." The Finno-Ugric theory has "only the barest of linguistic support as evidence"? Utter drivel. I suspect this was probably the work of some "anti-Finno-Ugrist" trying to prove the F-U theory was some kind of Austro-German plot against the Magyars (note, for example the reference to the "Saxon" Hunfalvy).

The remaining paragraphs are there to push the claims of "anti-Finno-Ugric" proponents.

So this section is alternately superfluous, wrong and tendentious. It's also all completely unsourced. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 09:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:I see this was part of an effort to salvage something valuable from this nonsense [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hungarian_prehistory&oldid=147432812#False_theories_in_the_search_for_Hungarian_prehistory]. While this was arguably commendable, the best thing would have been to burn it with fire and start the whole thing from scratch again. The article should not be a [[WP:COATRACK|coatrack]] for "Turanist" POV-pushing. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 10:19, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

::Stating that this information you are deleting / suppressing is "already available" at Finno-Ugric languages is a blatant falsehood that is easily disproven, and you should be above telling such falsehoods. I find the info highly informative and am insulted that busy-bodies such as you should take it on yourself to decide "behind the scenes" that readers like myself should not be allowed to access this historiographic information. What is it about these records that frightens you so much that you don't want anyone to even learn of its existence??? Why do you adopt so patriarchal view towards readers, determining on his behalf what he is and is not allowed to be exposed to??? This is the very attitude that I will ALWAYS resist and oppose, no matter where it rears its ugly head, til the day I die. That is the purpose of my life, to reesist such attitudes, so you have got a LONG road to hoe here, unless you can succeed in getting me blocked for the sake of your agenda here. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 10:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

If something is unsourced, try adding tags first instead of removing the text. Wait for a few days and if there are still no sources, you may remove them. [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 10:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Erm, no, there is no policy that says we have to preserve tendentious far-right crap until we get permission from the article's [[WP:OWN|owners]]. As I've repeatedly made clear, the ''bona fide'' information in this section is available at [[Finno-Ugric languages]]. --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 11:05, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

::Erm, [[WP:OWN]] refers to main contributors of an article. I only did some very minor changes here.
::Exactly what position does the "tendentious far right c..." ([[WP:CIV]]) advance? I read the part and it seems to present a valid dispute. Wording can be changed of course and sources are needed. [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 11:27, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::Do you actually know anything about this subject? --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 11:29, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::::First linking [[WP:OWN]], then asking if I know anything about the subject...
::::This section contains some criticism of the Finno-Ugric theory which IS valid. Wording may be changed and sources should be added (repeating myself), but the immediate removal of the section seems a bit disrespectful towards the real contributors of this article. [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 11:41, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::Well, I've read the original version of this article in all its cranky, extreme nationalist glory and you've simply preserved selected bits of it in this section (on what basis I do not know). It's quite clear that it's pushing a racist line that the Finno-Ugric theory was a plot by Germans/Austrians to keep down the Hungarians by "denying them their rightful history". Apparently there is "only the barest of linguistic support as evidence" for the Finno-Ugric theory, which is news to me. It also contains such gems as "All these nations lived 'in born wildness and crassness in the near past', to his mind" and "The language separates our human being, and our beliefs bind us" - which means what exactly? --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 11:49, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::Repeat: I didn't preserve anything. Repeat: wording may be changed. Repeat: sources needed.
::::::An alternate theory should be presented as such with all the criticism, see for example [[Finns#Theories of the origin of Finns|the origin of the Finns]] (second paragraph). The problem with the Finno-Ugric theory is that it's based on linguistic evidence only so it won't provide a full picture regarding the origin of the Hungarians. [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 14:25, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Repeat: unsourced, tendentious material should be removed. If you want to keep anything, the burden of proof is on ''you'' to reference it properly and make sure it conforms with [[WP:NPOV]] on "undue weight". --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 14:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::Repeat: use inline tags (for example {{Fact}}). If an interested editor or an expert shows up in the coming days, these will indicate the problems. [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 14:56, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:::::::::Start following policy. This article has been tagged for citations since ''February, 2008''. For almost seven months it has clearly stated at the top of the page "Unsourced material may be challenged and removed". Understand now? --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 15:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::::::::::Click on "[[Template:Fact|challenged]]" ''in the sentence cited by you'' and start reading that link about how inline templates help editors identify the problems. Understand now? [[User:Squash Racket|Squash Racket]] ([[User talk:Squash Racket|talk]]) 15:18, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
::Folantin, You do not even seem to be trying to appeal to any desire for the principles of neutrality, and presenting everyone's side of the story neutrally to let readers make up their own mind. Rather you are appealing to a desire to prevent one side of the story from being told, and present only one published POV instead of acknowledging there are others. Perhaps the language could be made more neutral, but it should not be swept under the carpet and pretend that the same information is presented in another article when it is not. Your subjective opinion of what is "bona fide" is obviously colored by your partisan approach to this question. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 11:23, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
*If there's useless unsourced POV crap around, don't tag it, nuke it. I'm moving the historiography section to [[Talk:Hungarian prehistory/Dumping ground]], a space for potentially useful material that needs to be got rid of now. [[User:Moreschi|Moreschi]] ([[User talk:Moreschi|talk]]) 21:54, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Moreschi, you being judgmental too? --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 03:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
::And going quite against the consensus... There's still this attitude that "I am I, and who else is there... anyone who disagrees does not count" from the POV pushers who don't want both sides of the story to be accessible, because they only want one side to be accessible. [[User:Til Eulenspiegel|Til Eulenspiegel]] ([[User talk:Til Eulenspiegel|talk]]) 16:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
"Note that the purpose of [[Wikipedia:Fringe_theories/Noticeboard|this board]] is '''not to remove''' any mention of fringe theories, but rather to ensure that proper balance is maintained. Indeed, Wikipedia has an entire category dedicated to pseudoscience. Wikipedia articles dealing with academic topics aim to reflect both the consensus and the diversity of mainstream academia. Discussion of fringe theories will depend entirely on their notability and reliable coverage in popular media. Above all, fringe theories should never be presented as "fact."" --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 17:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

==Split==
The article as it stands is immensely long and needs a bit of focus. The section about the ''Honfoglalás'' (the conquest of Hungary) should probably be split off to form a new article (assuming one doesn't exist already) since this refers to an historical event rather than "pre-history". --[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 09:46, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

It is OK, but the ''Honfoglalás'' is the end of the pre-history period of the Hungarian history according to the academic views; therefore, some reference should be reserved in this article. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 19:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

== Verifying Sources ==

As I wrote above in [[Talk:Hungarian_prehistory#What_to_do_about_this_article.3F]], the original version of this article had references but no citations. I'd appreciate if someone familiar with these sources could help. Here's the original references list:
*Bakay Kornél (1997, 1998): Őstörténetünk régészeti forrásai. I. P. 302; II. P. 336. Miskolci Bölcsész Egyesület. Miskolc.
*Bakay Kornél (2000): Az Árpádok országa. Kőszeg. P. 512.
*Encyclopaedia Hungarica (1992, 1994, 1996) I-III. Főszerkesztő: Bagossy László. Hungarian Ethnic Lexicon Foundation. Calgary. P. 778, 786, 888.
*Kiszely István (1979): Rassengeschichte von Ungarn. In: Schwidetzky, Ilse ed.: Rassengeschichte der Menschheit. R. Oldenburg Verlag. München-Wien. Pp. 1-50.
*Kiszely István (1992): Honnan jöttünk? Elméletek a magyarság őshazájáról. Új Mandátum Könyvkiadó. Budapest. P. 460.
*Kiszely István (1996): A magyarság őstörténete. Mit adott a magyarság a világnak. Püski Kiadó, Budapest. I-II. P. 860.
*Kiszely István (2000, 2002, 2004): A magyarok eredete és ősi kultúrája. Püski Kiadó. Budapest. I-II. P. 1500.
*Kiszely István (2004): A magyar ember. Püski Kiadó. Budapest. I-II. P. 980.
*László Gyula (1999): Múltunkról utódainknak. I. A magyar föld és a magyar nép őstörténete. P. 573; II. Magyarok honfoglalása &ndash; Árpád népe Pp. 574-1036. Püski Kiadó. Budapest.
--[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 20:38, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I think 4 authors cannot be qualified as most of the historians. Kiszely is a well-known anthropologist who identified a woman's skeleton with Petőfi some years ago.[[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 20:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
:Is that true? LOL! --[[User:Sborsody|Stacey Doljack Borsody]] ([[User talk:Sborsody|talk]]) 21:18, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
These should simply be removed. They were (allegedly) used to source the original version of this article, which was tendentious nonsense. Nobody else has vouched for their reliability, neutrality or scholarly value or verified their relation to the material in this article.--[[User:Folantin|Folantin]] ([[User talk:Folantin|talk]]) 11:59, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

The present article is essentially based on a single Hungarian language source, Kristó (1994). Claims like "The formation of the Hungarian language (between 1000 BC and 500 BC) can be localised to the southern regions of the Ural Mountains" are repeated in Wikipedia's voice without any qualification. I suppose all of the claims in "Emergence from the Ugric speakers" are plausible enough, but the article puts it as if it was in any way certain or established, while it is in fact just erudite speculation. --[[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 18:22, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
:: I agree that other views should also be incorporated, but we should use reliable sources when referring to them. Some time ago, I read of theories that several tribes were of Turkic, Iranian origin, but I have not found the works that could be cited. However, fringe theories and theories based on speculations should be avoided. Unfortunatelly, in our region, most historians tend to create a "bubbling" history because of the lack of primary sources. I read of a "new" grand prince of the Magyars (Csaba) based on misreading of a photocopy of a newly found Arab source, and also of the Principality of Nitra fighting against the Avars and Moravians based on two entry (even not mentioning the principality) of an early medieval source and one can also read of the 24 Romanian clans living, in the 8th century, on the territory today Romania and fighting against everybody based on an Armenian source mentioning "24 Slavic tribes living in Dacia". I think we should not follow this direction. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 02:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Just one more remark, the "Encyclopedia of the Early Hungarian History" was edited (and not written) by Kristó, and it is a summary of academic views on the prehistory of the Hungarians. [[User:Borsoka|Borsoka]] ([[User talk:Borsoka|talk]]) 02:36, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
Florin Curta (Florida U) provides an excelent and highly critical overview of sources (concerning the early Hungarian Kingdom) in his ''Transylvania around the year 1000'', also available oniline: http://www.clas.ufl.edu/users/fcurta/opus.html . I think it should be used.[[User:Plinul cel tanar|Plinul cel tanar]] ([[User talk:Plinul cel tanar|talk]]) 07:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

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Template:Legal status Illegal immigration refers to immigration across national borders in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. In politics, the term may imply a larger set of social issues and time constraints with disputed consequences in areas such as economy, social welfare, education, health care, slavery, prostitution, crime, legal protections, voting rights, public services, and human rights. Illegal emigration, in contrast, refers to unlawfully leaving a country.

Terminology

  • illegal immigrant (mostly in the UK)[1]
  • undocumented immigrant
  • clandestine workers[2]
  • sans papiers/"sin papeles"[3]
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Tenerife / Los Cristianos, June 7, 2006 - illegal immigrants from West Africa rest in a Red Cross tent after arriving at the Canary Islands. The cost of the journey is between $880 to $1,250.[4][5]
  • Irregular immigration

United States

Terms used in the United States include:

  • illegal alien [6]
  • illegal immigrant
  • undocumented immigrant/migrant/alien/worker/resident
  • unauthorized immigrant/migrant/alien/worker/resident
  • paperless immigrant/migrant/alien/worker/resident
  • immigrant "without immigration status"
  • out of status
  • unnaturalized immigrant
  • irregular immigrant

Other

Causes

War

One reason for illegal immigration is to escape civil war or repression in the country of origin. For example, people in Germany that were considered minorities fled their country in fear that they would be oppressed and arrested. Non-economic push factors include persecution (religious and otherwise), frequent abuse, bullying, oppression, and genocide, and risks to civilians during war. Political motives traditionally motivate refugee flows - to escape dictatorship for instance.

After decades of armed conflict, roughly one of every 10 Colombians now lives abroad. [7] For example, Colombians emigrating to Spain have "grown exponentially, from a little over 7,000 in 1993 to more than 80,000 in 2002 and 244,000 in 2003." [8] This is equivalent to 124,000 Colombian immigrants in year 2003 into Spain alone. Also, figures from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security indicate that Colombia is the fourth-leading source country of unauthorized immigration to the United States. According to its estimates, the number of unauthorized Colombian residents in the United States almost tripled from 51,000 in 1990 to 141,000 in 2000. [9] According to the US Census Bureau, the number of authorized Colombian immigrants in the United States in 2000 was 801,363. [10] Census data are important because, as the Department of Homeland Security states, [U.S.] "census data are more complete and reliable [than INS's data] because of the national scope of the data collection, the vastly larger data sample, and the extensive preparation and follow-up activities involved in conducting the decennial census." [11]

El Salvador is another country which experienced substantial emigration as a result of civil war and repression. The largest per-capita source of immigrants to the United States comes from El Salvador. Up to a third of the world's Salvadoran-born population lives outside the country, mostly in the United States. [12] According to the Santa Clara County, California, Office of Human Relations.

Despite the fact that the U.S. government’s role in the Salvadoran conflict was unique in sustaining the prolongation of the civil conflict, the government and the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) extended little sympathy to the people affected by the war. In the 1980s, the INS granted only 2% of political asylum applications, claiming that democracy existed in El Salvador and that reports of U.S. and government-sponsored “death squads” were overblown. As a response to what they considered a failure of the U.S. government to address the situation of Salvadoran refugees in the country, American activists established a loose network to aid refugees. Operating in clear violation of U.S. immigration laws, these activists took refugees into their houses, aided their travel, hid them and helped them find work. This became known as the “sanctuary movement”.[13]

Family reunification

Some illegal immigrants seek to live with loved ones, such as a spouse or other family members. [14] [15] [16] This is particularly true for the families of binational same sex couples. [17] The Lesbian and Gay Immigration Rights Task Force (LGIRTF) warns binational same sex couples in the United States that marriage may actually increase the likelihood of becoming undocumented, rather than decreasing it. [4] [5] Other individuals seek to distance themselves from their spouses.

Poverty

One cause of illegal immigration can be poverty. This is the case in the United States, where illegal immigrants traditionally have entered the country in search of wages higher than those achievable in their home countries.
The case of U.S. Marine Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez is atypical, but it serves to demonstrate how poor immigrants enter the United States illegally in search for a better tomorrow. According to CBS 60 Minutes, U.S. Marine Lance Corporal Jose Gutierrez, one of the first U.S. servicemen to die in combat in Iraq, was a former street child in Guatemala having been orphaned at age eight. Gutierrez, 60 Minutes reported, first entered the United States as an illegal immigrant in 1997 to escape poverty, and dreamed of becoming an architect.[18]

The chief cause of illegal immigration is considered to be economic. Illegal immigrants in the United States traditionally have been portrayed as seeking jobs and wages better than those available in their home countries. For example, the 1994 economic crisis in Mexico was associated with widespread poverty and a lower valuation for the peso relative to the dollar[citation needed]. The United States Department of Labor calculates that the Zone A (most industrialized) minimum wage in Mexico in 1999 was 34.45 pesos, or about US$3.50 per day[citation needed] . The Zone C (rural/agricultural) minimum wage was 29.70 Pesos a day, or roughly US$3.02 a day[citation needed] . By contrast, the U.S. minimum is set at $5.85 per hour under U.S. federal law, and many states require rates higher than the federally mandated minimum.[19] Natural disasters and overpopulation can amplify poverty-driven migration flows.[20]

Population growth

Population growth which exceeds the carrying capacity of an area or environment results in overpopulation.[21] Spikes in human population can cause problems such as pollution, water crisis[22][23] and poverty.[24][25] World population has grown from 1.6 billion in 1900 to an estimated 6.7 billion today. In Mexico alone, population has grown from 13.6 million in 1900 to 107 million in 2007.[26]

In 2000, the United Nations estimated that the world's population was growing at the rate of 1.14% (or about 75 million people) per year. According to data from the CIA's 2005–2006 World Factbooks, the world human population currently increases by 203,800 every day.[27] The United States Census Bureau issued a revised forecast for world population that increased its projection for the year 2050 to above 9.4 billion people, up from 9.1 billion people. We are adding a billion more every 12 years. Almost all growth will take place in the less developed regions.[28]

Dangers

Illegal immigrants expose themselves to dangers while engaged in illegal entry to another country. Aside from the possibility that they may be intercepted and deported, some considerably more dangerous outcomes have been known to result from their activity. As an example, illegal immigrants may been trafficked for exploitation.

Slavery

After the end of the legal international slave trade by the European nations and the United States in the early 19th century, the illegal importation of slaves has continued, albeit at much reduced levels. Although not as common as in Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, some women are undoubtedly smuggled into the United States and Canada.[29]

People been kidnapped or tricked into slavery to work as laborers, for example in factories. Those trafficked in this manner often face additional barriers to escaping slavery, since their status as illegal immigrants makes it difficult for them to gain access to help or services. For example Burmese women trafficked into Thailand and forced to work in factories or as prostitutes may not speak the language and may be vulnerable to abuse by police due to their illegal immigrant status.[30] In the Dominican Republic, Haitian migrant workers are sold into slavery on Dominican Sugar plantations, including children.[31][32]

Prostitution

The so-called "white slave trade" referred to the smuggling of women, almost always under duress or fraud, for the purpose of forced prostitution. Now more generically called "sexual slavery" it continues to be a problem, particularly in Eastern Europe and the Middle East,[33][34][35] though there has been an increase in the number of cases in the U.S.[6] Some Haitian children have allegedly been forced to work as prostitutes in the Dominican sexual tourism industry.[36] Currently the Dominican sex trade ranks third in the world, only behind Thailand and the Philippines.[37]


Death

Each year there are several hundred Immigrant deaths along the U.S.-Mexico border.[38] Death by exposure occurs in the deserts of Southwestern United States during the hot summer season. [39]

Allegations have been made that thousands of illegal immigrants attempting to reach Europe have died since 1986.

In order to arrive to the sea, the dangerous passage of the Sahara is necessary. People have crossed it on trucks and off-road vehicles along the tracks between Sudan, Chad, Niger and Mali one one side and Libya and Algeria on the other. On this passage at least 1,069 people have died since 1996. The Libyan, Algerian and Morocan Governments have been accused of abandoning hundreds of migrants in open desert border areas.

Abuse has been reported of migrants in Libya. There are not any official data, but in 2006 Human Rights Watch and AFVIC accused Tripoli of arbitrary arrests, beatings and tortures in the migrant detention centers,[citation needed] In September 2000 in Zawiyah, in northwest Libya, at least 560 foreigners were killed in racist attacks.[citation needed]

247 stowaways in trucks were found dead in Albania, France, Germany, Greece, Turkey, the United Kingdom, Ireland, Italy, the Netherlands, Spain and Hungary.

There are still minefields along the Evros river between the Greece-Turkey border.[citation needed]

Additionally, 51 people drowned crossing rivers delimiting the frontier between Croatia and Bosnia; Turkey and Greece; Slovakia and Austria; and Slovenia and Italy.[citation needed] Forty-one people froze to death travelling over the icy mountains at the border between Turkey, Greece and Slovakia;[citation needed] 20 people died under the trains in the Channel tunnel trying to reach England;[citation needed] 33 people were shot dead by Spanish and Moroccan police or injured along the border fence of Ceuta and Melilla Spanish enclaves in Morocco;[citation needed] 11 people burnt when a deportation center in the Netherlands caught fire;[citation needed] and eight men were found dead hidden in the undercarriages of planes.[citation needed]

Methods

Border crossing

Border control at sea by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection

Immigrants from nations that do not have automatic visa agreements, or who would not otherwise qualify for a visa, often cross the borders illegally in some areas like the United States–Mexico border, the Mona Channel between the Dominican Republic and Puerto Rico, the Strait of Gibraltar, Fuerteventura, and the Strait of Otranto. Because these methods are illegal, they are often dangerous. Would-be immigrants have been known to suffocate in shipping containers,[40] boxcars,[41] and trucks [7], sink in shipwrecks caused by unseaworthy vessels [8], die of dehydration [9] or exposure during long walks without water. An official estimate puts the number of people who died in illegal crossings across the U.S.-Mexican border between 1998 and 2004 at 1,954 (see immigrant deaths along the U.S.-Mexico border).

Human smuggling is the practice of intermediaries aiding illegal immigrants in crossing over international borders in financial gain, often in large groups. Human smuggling differs from, but is sometimes associated with, human trafficking. A human smuggler will facilitate illegal entry into a country for a fee, but on arrival at their destination, the smuggled person is usually free. Trafficking involves a process of using physical force, fraud, or deception to obtain and transport people.

Types of notorious human smugglers include Snakehead gangs present in mainland China (especially in Fujian) that smuggle laborers into Pacific Rim nations (making Chinatowns frequent centers of illegal immigration) [10] and "coyotes," who smuggle illegal immigrants to the Southwestern United States and have been known to abuse or even kill their passengers. [11] Sometimes immigrants are abandoned by their human traffickers if there are difficulties, often dying in the process. Others may be victims of intentional killing. In many spots on the U.S.-Mexico border, there are "rape trees" on which either condoms or the undergarments of women sexually abused by the "coyotes" are hung as trophies. [12][13][14]

Overstaying a visa

Some illegal immigrants enter a country legally and then overstay or violate their visa. [15] For example, most of the estimated 200,000 illegal immigrants in Canada (perhaps as high as 500,000), are refugee claimants whose refugee applications were rejected but who have not yet been ejected from the country.[42]

A related way of becoming an illegal immigrant is through bureaucratic means. For example, a person can be allowed to remain in a country - or be protected from expulsion - because he/she needs special pension for a medical condition, etc., without being able to regularize his/her situation and obtain a work and/or residency permit, let alone naturalization. Hence, categories of people being neither illegal immigrants nor legal citizens are created, living in a judicial "no man's land". Another example is formed by children of foreigners born in countries observing jus soli ("right of territory"), such as France. In that country, one may obtain French nationality if one is born in France - but, due to recent legislative changes, it is only granted at the age of eighteen, and only upon request.

Fraudulent marriage

A third way to enter a country is to engage in a sham marriage, registering as married with the government for the purpose of obtaining papers for one half of the partnership in exchange for monetary or other considerations. The first U.S. case involving one of these marriages arranged over the internet is currently being prosecuted. [16]

Legal and political status

See also: Illegal immigration to the United States, Immigration to the United States, Australian immigration, Immigration to the United Kingdom, Immigration to Canada, Illegal immigrants in Malaysia, Hazleton, Pennsylvania.

Many countries have had or currently have laws restricting immigration for economic or nationalistic political reasons. Whether a person is permitted to stay in a country legally may be decided by quotas or point systems or may be based on considerations such as family ties (marriage, elderly mother, etc.). Exceptions relative to political refugees or to sick people are also common. Immigrants who do not participate in these legal proceedings or who are denied permission under them and still enter or stay in the country are illegal immigrants. [17]

Most countries have laws requiring workers to have proper documentation, often intended to prevent or minimize the employment of unauthorized immigrants. However the penalties against employers are often small and the acceptable identification requirements vague and ill-defined as well as being seldom checked or enforced, making it easy for employers to hire unauthorized labor. Unauthorized immigrants are especially popular with many employers because they can pay less than the legal minimum wage or have unsafe working conditions, secure in the knowledge that few unauthorized workers will report the abuse to the authorities. Often the minimum wages in one country can be several times the prevailing wage in the unauthorized immigrant's country, making even these jobs attractive to the unauthorized worker.

In response to the outcry following popular knowledge of the Holocaust, the newly-established United Nations held an international conference on refugees, where it was decided that refugees (legally defined to be people who are persecuted in their original country and then enter another country seeking safety) should be exempted from immigration laws. [18] It is, however, up to the countries involved to decide if a particular immigrant is a refugee or not, and hence whether they are subject to the immigration controls.

The right to freedom of movement of an individual within National borders is often contained within the constitution or in a country's human rights legislation but these rights are restricted to citizens and exclude all others. Some argue that the freedom of movement both within and between countries is a basic human right and that nationalism and immigration policies of state governments violate this human right that those same governments recognize within their own borders. According to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, fundamental human rights are violated when citizens are forbidden to leave their country. (Article 13). However, immigrants are not assured the right to enter a country, that right is given at the host country's discretion.

Since illegal immigrants without proper legal status have no valid identification documents such as identity cards, they may have reduced or no access to public health systems, proper housing, education and banks. This lack of access may result in the creation or expansion of illegal underground forgery to provide this documentation. [19].

When the authorities are overwhelmed in their efforts to stop illegal immigration, they have historically provided amnesty. Amnesties, which are becoming less tolerated by the citizenry, [20] waive the "subject to deportation" clause associated with illegal aliens.

By region

Angola

In 2007 around 44,000 Congolese were forced to leave Angola.[43] Since 2004, more than 400,000 illegal immigrants, almost all from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, have been expelled from Angola.[44][45]

Argentina

Illegal immigration has been a relatively important factor in recent Argentine demographics. Most illegal immigrants come from Bolivia, and Paraguay, countries which border Argentina to the north. Smaller numbers arrive from Chile, Uruguay, Brazil, Ukraine, Peru, Ecuador, Romania, Dominican Republic, Cuba and the People's Republic of China[citation needed]. The Argentine government estimates that 750,000 inhabitants lack official documents and has launched a program called Patria Grande ("Greater Homeland"), to encourage illegal immigrants to regularize their status; so far some 200,000 applications have been processed under the program.

Bhutan

Immigration in Bhutan by Nepalese settlers (Lhotshampa) began slowly towards the end of the 19th century. In 1985, the government passed a new Citizenship Act which clarified and attempted to enforce the 1958 Citizenship Act to control the flood of illegal immigration. Those individuals who could not provide proof of residency prior to 1958 were adjudged to be illegal immigrants. In 1991-92, Bhutan expelled roughly 100,000 ethnic Nepalis, most of whom have been living in seven refugee camps in eastern Nepal ever since. The United States has offered to resettle 60,000 of the 107,000 Bhutanese refugees of Nepalese origin now living in U.N. refugee camps in Nepal.[46]

Chile

Chile has recently become a new pole of attraction for illegal immigrants, mostly from the neighboring countries such as Peru and Bolivia. According to the national census of 2002 the foreign populations have increased by 75% since 1992.[21]

China

People's Republic of China is building a security barrier along its border with North Korea to prevent the defectors or refugees from North Korea.[47]

European Union

The European Union is developing a common system for immigration and asylum and a single external border control strategy.

In France, helping an illegal immigrant (providing shelter, for example) is prohibited by a law passed on December 27, 1994 [22]. The law was heavily criticized by non-governmental organizations (NGOs) such as the CIMADE and the GISTI, left-wing political parties such as the Greens and the French Communist Party, and trade-unions such as the magistrates' Syndicat de la magistrature.

The Turkish newspaper Hürriyet published stories once in July 2004 and a second time in May 2006 that Hellenic Coast Guard ships were caught on film cruising as near as a few hundred meters off the Turkish coast and abandoning clandestine immigrants to the sea. This practice allegedly resulted in the drowning of six people between Chios and Karaburun Peninsula on 26 September 2006 while three others disappeared and 31 were saved by Turkish gendarmes and fishermen.[48] However, there are numerous non-Turkish claims and testimonies that Turkish authorities and/or citizens lead immigrants through the sea, often resulting to the abandonment and sometimes drowning of said immigrants.

A tough new EU immigration law detaining illegal immigrants for up to 18 months before deportation has triggered outrage across Latin America, with Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez threatening to cut off oil exports to Europe.[49][50]

Greece

After the opening of the Albanian borders in 1991, a huge influx of Albanian economic migrants crossed illegally into Greece in order to find work. They are currently estimated at about 600,000-800,000, but an accurate calculation is very difficult because of the large percentage of illegal immigrants.[51][52]

India

The Indo-Bangladeshi barrier is 4,000 kilometers (2,500 miles) long. Presently, India is constructing a fence along the border to restrict illegal traffic from Bangladesh.[53] This obstruction will virtually isolate Bangladesh from India. The barrier's plan is based on the designs of the Israeli West Bank barrier and will be 3.6 m (11.8 ft) high. The stated aim of the fence is to stop infiltration of terrorists, prevent smuggling, and to bring a close to illegal immigration from Bangladesh.[54][55]

Iran

Since late April 2007, the Iranian government has forcibly deported back to Afghanistan nearly 100,000 registered and unregistered Afghans living and working in Iran. The forceful evictions of the refugees, who have lived in Iran and Pakistan for nearly three decades, are part of the two countries' larger plans to repatriate all Afghan refugees within a few years. Iran says it will send 1,000,000 by next March, and Pakistan announced that all 2,400,000 Afghan refugees, most living in camps, must return home by 2009. Experts say it will be 'disastrous' for Afghanistan.[56][57][58]

Libya

Libya is home to a large illegal Sub-Saharan African population which numbers as much as 2,000,000.[59] The mass expulsion plan to summarily deport all undocumented foreigners was announced by Libyan leader Colonel Muammar al-Gaddafi in January 2008. "No resident without a legal visa will be excluded."[60] [61]

Malaysia

An ethnic Indian Malaysian was recently sentenced to whipping and 10 months in prison for hiring six illegal immigrants at his restaurant. "I think that after this, Malaysian employers will be afraid to take in foreign workers (without work permits). They will think twice," said immigration department prosecutor Azlan Abdul Latiff. “This is the first case where an employer is being sentenced to caning,” he told. Illegal immigrants also face caning before being deported.[62] There are an estimated 800,000 illegal immigrants in Malaysia. [63]

Mexico

In the first six months of 2005 alone, more than 120,000 people from Central America have been deported to their countries of origin. This is a significantly higher rate than in 2002, when for the entire year, only 130,000 people were deported [23]. Another important group of people are those of Chinese origin, who pay about $5,500 to smugglers to be taken to Mexico from Hong Kong. It is estimated that 2.4% of rejections for work permits in Mexico correspond to Chinese citizens [24]. Many women from Eastern Europe, Asia, the United States, and Central and South America are also offered jobs at table dance establishments in large cities throughout the country causing the National Institute of Migration (INM) in Mexico to raid strip clubs and deport foreigners who work without the proper documentation [25]. In 2004, the INM deported 188,000 people at a cost of $10 million [26]. Illegal immigration of Cubans through Cancún tripled from 2004 to 2006. [27]

Russia

Russia experiences a constant flow of immigration. On average, 200,000 legal immigrants enter the country every year; about half are ethnic Russians from the other republics of the former Soviet Union. In addition, there are an estimated 10-12 million illegal immigrants in the country.[64] There has a significant influx of ethnic Georgians, Armenians, Azerbaijanis, Tajiks, and Uzbeks into big Russian cities in recent years, which has been viewed very unfavorably by many citizens, and has given rise to nationalist sentiments.[65][66][67] Many immigrant ethnic groups have much higher birth rates than native Russians, further shifting the balance. Some Chinese flee the overpopulation and birth control regulations of their home country and settle in the Far East and in southern Siberia. Russia’s main Pacific port and naval base of Vladivostok, once closed to foreigners, today is bristling with Chinese markets, restaurants and trade houses.[68] Experts predict that the Chinese diaspora in Russia will increase to at least 10 million by 2010 and Chinese may become the dominant ethnic group in the Russian Far East region 20 to 30 years from now.[69][70][71]

Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia has begun construction of a separation barrier between its territory and Yemen to prevent the unauthorized movement of people and goods into and out of the kingdom. See Saudi-Yemen barrier.

In 2006 Saudi Arabia proposed plans for the construction of a security fence along the entire length of its 560-mile (900km) desert border with Iraq in a multimillion-pound project to secure the kingdom’s borders in order to improve internal security, control illegal immigration and bolster its defences against external threats. [72]

South Africa

South Africa is home to an estimated five million illegal immigrants, including some three million Zimbabweans.[73][74][75] Attacks on foreign nationals increased markedly in late 2007 and it is believed that there have been at least a dozen attacks since the start of 2008. A series of anti-immigrant riots occurred in South Africa beginning on May 11, 2008.[76][77]

Syria

Refugees from Iraq have increased in number since the U.S.-led invasion of that country in March 2003. The United Nations estimates that nearly 2,200,000 Iraqis have fled the country since 2003,[78] with nearly 100,000 fleeing to Syria and Jordan each month.[79][80] Most ventured to Jordan and Syria, creating demographic shifts that have worried both governments. Refugees are mired in poverty as they are generally barred from working in their host countries.[81][82]

Syrian authorities worried that the new influx of refugees would limit the country's resources. Sources like oil, heat, water and electricity were said to be becoming more scarce as demand had gone up.[83] On October 1, 2007 news agencies reported that Syria re-imposed restrictions on Iraqi refugees, as stated by a spokesperson for the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. Under Syria's new rules, only Iraqi merchants, businessmen and university professors with visas acquired from Syrian embassies may enter Syria.[84][85][86]

Turkey

Turkey receives many economic migrants from nearby countries such as Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Iran, but also from Afghanistan, Central Asia and Pakistan.[87][88] The Iraq War is thought to have increased the flow of illegal immigration into Turkey, while the global parties directly involved in the conflict have been accused of extending a less-helping hand than Turkey itself to resolve the precarious situation of immigrants stranded in passage.[89]

United States

Between 12 and 20 million illegal immigrants are estimated to be living in the United States; due to the nature of illegal immigration, the exact number is unknown.[90] The majority of the illegal immigrants are from Mexico.[91] Illegal immigration has been a longstanding issue in the United States, creating immense controversy. Harvard University economist George J. Borjas explains that the controversy centers around the "huge redistribution [of wealth] away from [unskilled American] workers to [American employers] who use immigrants." [92] In 2007, President Bush called for Congress to endorse his guest worker proposal, stating that illegal immigrants took jobs that Americans would not take. [93] The Pew Hispanic Center notes that while the number of legal immigrants (including LPRs, refugees, and asylees) arriving has not varied substantially since the 1980s, the number of illegal aliens has increased dramatically and, since the mid 1990s, has surpassed the number of legal immigrants. [28] Penalties for employers who hire illegal immigrants range from $2,000-$10,000 and up to six months' imprisonment. [94]

Venezuela

There are hundreds of thousands, possibly even millions of Colombian immigrants living in Venezuela.[95] In 1995, Venezuela announced plans to conduct a census to locate and deport illegal immigrants.[96] An estimated 200,000 Colombians have fled the Colombian Civil War and sought safety in Venezuela. Most of them lack identity documents and this hampers their access to services, as well as to the labor market. The Venezuelan government had no specific policies on refugees.[97][98]

See also

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Further reading

  • Barkan, Elliott R. "Return of the Nativists? California Public Opinion and Immigration in the 1980s and 1990s." Social Science History 2003 27(2): 229-283. in Project Muse
  • Vanessa B. Beasley, ed. Who Belongs in America?: Presidents, Rhetoric, And Immigration (2006)
  • Borjas, G.J. "The economics of immigration," Journal of Economic Literature, v 32 (1994), pp. 1667-717
  • Cull, Nicholas J. and Carrasco, Davíd, ed. Alambrista and the US-Mexico Border: Film, Music, and Stories of Undocumented Immigrants U. of New Mexico Press, 2004. 225 pp.
  • Thomas J. Espenshade; "Unauthorized Immigration to the United States" Annual Review of Sociology. Volume: 21. 1995. pp 195+.
  • Flores, William V. "New Citizens, New Rights: Undocumented Immigrants and Latino Cultural Citizenship" Latin American Perspectives 2003 30(2): 87-100
  • Griswold, Daniel T.; "Willing Workers: Fixing the Problem of Illegal Mexican Migration to the United States," Trade Policy Analysis no. 19, October 15, 2002.
  • Kennedy, Marie and Chris Tilly, 'They Work Here, They Live Here, They Stay Here!': French immigrants strike for the right to work—and win. Dollars & Sense, July/August 2008.
  • Nicholas Laham; Ronald Reagan and the Politics of Immigration Reform Praeger Publishers. 2000.
  • Lisa Magaña, Straddling the Border: Immigration Policy and the INS (2003)j63-a12036-m12i-3620+3e
  • Mohl, Raymond A. "Latinization in the Heart of Dixie: Hispanics in Late-twentieth-century Alabama" Alabama Review 2002 55(4): 243-274. ISSN 0002-4341 9-4894945651
  • Ngai, Mae M. Impossible Subjects: Illegal Aliens and the Making of Modern America (2004), 90952-15665
  • Ngai, Mae M. "The Strange Career of the Illegal Alien: Immigration Restriction and Deportation Policy in the United States, 1921-1965" Law and History Review 2003 21(1): 69-107. ISSN 0738–2480 Fulltext in History Cooperative
  • Mireille Rosello; "Representing Illegal Immigrants in France: From Clandestins to L'affaire Des Sans-Papiers De Saint-Bernard" Journal of European Studies, Vol. 28, 1998 959525126
  • Dowell Myers (2007), Immigrants and Boomers: Forging a New Social Contract for the Future of America, Russell Sage Foundation, ISBN 978-0-87154-636-4.
  • Tolley, Brett "Dying to Get In" Documentary (2006) Undocumented Immigration Documentary
  • Tranaes, T. and Zimmermann, K.F. (eds), Migrants, Work, and the Welfare State, Odense, University Press of Southern Denmark, (2004)
  • Venturini, A. Post-War Migration in Southern Europe. An Economic Approach Cambridge University Press (2004)
  • Zimmermann, K.F. (ed.), European Migration: What Do We Know? Oxford University Press, (2005)
  • Range, Peter R., Europe faces an immigrant tide National Geographic Magazine May 1993