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Cricket tours
Hi, I've reverted your additions to the template about the TV shows of David Croft - I assume they were an accidental test? With that in mind, I was going to paste the wikitext into a new template, which is what I assume you were intending to do, but isn't Template:International cricket tours of England about the same thing? Bob talk 21:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
Please use informative Edit Summaries
Hi, I was part way through reverting all your edits to It Ain't Half Hot Mum as vandalism before I realised that you had split the article to a subsidiary page. Using clear edit summaries saying what you were doing (particularly on your last edit) would avoid such confusion. Cheers, dramatic (talk) 00:56, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Moving pages
Hi, you asked if I could move (rename) 1972 England Tour of South Africa and 1973 England Tour of Oceania. You (ro anny looged-in user) can easily do that. In the default (monobook skin) layout of wkipedia pages, there is a tab at the top right with the link "mov" (in the line with article, discusion, edit, history etc. It's a fairly east process, so I'll leave it for you to exlore :-) dramatic (talk) 09:16, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
England rugby union team matches
I've reverted your edits to List of England national rugby union team matches (1970–present) as you had split up the article with no reason and had taken away the key colours from the table. If you wish to split the page up, please copy the colours with the tables and provide the key. Tholly (talk) 16:34, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
TfD nomination of Template:1939 FA Cup Winners
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TfD nomination of Template:Portsmouth 1939 FA Cup Team
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European championship templates
Hi there. I notice you've made a couple of templates for the England European Championship templates. I believe such templates shouldn't be made per WP:FOOTY policy. I've started a discussion at WT:FOOTY#Euro 1968 template. For the time being, I'd pause with your work - there's no point wasting your time if they would end up being deleted anyway. Peanut4 (talk) 20:38, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Portsmouth FC Crest
Image can be found at Image:Portsmouth FC crest 2008.png (Image:Portsmouth FC crest.png was deleted as redundant) please feel free to use the existing image where you feel appropriate. SkierRMH (talk) 00:30, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of England national rugby union team - Results 2000-present
I have nominated England national rugby union team - Results 2000-present, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/England national rugby union team - Results 2000-present. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? - tholly --Turnip-- 17:36, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
AfD nomination of England national rugby union team - Results 1990 - 1999
I have nominated England national rugby union team - Results 1990 - 1999, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/England national rugby union team - Results 1990 - 1999. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? - tholly --Turnip-- 17:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
ARG/ENG results table
It is clear that this is your preference, but if you wish to build a consensus, you need to present reasons, not just decree that it ought to look like something. As I have said, I'd be happy with that grid after some tweaking, but it has major issues. Can I remind you that comments on talk pages should be signed, and that an edit summary should always be provided (having said that, this post won't have one, because it was set up as a new section). Kevin McE (talk) 19:45, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Portsmouth - Liverpool
OK - penalty takers and captains found and added. I still don't know the timing of Portsmouth's subs, though, nor the exact kits worn in the replay. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 09:49, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- No idea about the officials I'm afraid. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 13:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
- The Portsmouth subs are already there, although I don't know who was 12 and who was 14. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 10:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- There were only two subs in those days. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 11:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
- The Portsmouth subs are already there, although I don't know who was 12 and who was 14. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 10:35, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
FA Community Shield
I reverted your most recent edit to FA Community Shield (your other edits to that article looked ok). You added a heading "This Is How It Should Be" - this appears to be your own point of view, so has been removed. Unless you are saying that those were the actual matches that took place, in which case I think you will find numerous reliable sources against you. The existing table is the correct one (of course if you do find any more errors, feel free to correct them). Thanks --Jameboy (talk) 22:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Page moves
You have moved a load of season pages without any explanation, replacing the dash with a hyphen. Can you explain your reasoning for this, as the manual of style prefers the dash in date ranges? I've seen many bots moving pages in the opposite direction, i.e. replacing the hyphen with a dash, so you may be wasting your time. If you want to put your case forward, I have opened a topic to discuss this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Season page moves. --Jameboy (talk) 21:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Page moves
Hi there. I'm not sure why you've decided to move all the seasons in football over the redirect, i.e. 2008–09 in English football to 2008-09 in English football. Although the latter page should exist as a redirect, the former is the correct naming policy I believe. There is also a discussion ongoing at WT:FOOTY. Peanut4 (talk) 21:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please stop moving season articles to the incorrect name. WP:DASH clearly startes that en dashes (–) should be used "to convey the sense of to or through, particularly in ranges (pp. 211–19, 64–75%, the 1939–45 war, May–November)" and also that "when naming an article, a hyphen is not used as a substitute for an en dash that properly belongs in the title", however "editors should provide a redirect page to such an article, using a hyphen in place of the en dash".
- Your continued moves against policy are creating extra work for other editors who are having to go back and fix your edits. Please stop. Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 17:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Tagging articles
Hi, please be careful when tagging articles with project templates like the England rugby tour articles you tagged. The quality of the articles should conform to the assessment standards agreed to at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment. You may also want to have a quick look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Assessment. Featured Articles should only be tagged as such if they have succeeded at being promoted at Featured Article Candidates. If you are unsure what rating an article should be tagged with, it may be best to simply leave that blank for another editor to do so. Tagging is great, and is helpful when promoting various WikiProjects, but if done incorrectly can be quite misleading. - Shudde talk 05:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
1906 Springbok tour of Europe
I've added a comment on Talk:1906 Springbok tour of Europe proposing a reversion to the article's previous title - for consistency with a number of other rugby union tour articles. As you changed it to the current title, I'd be glad of your thoughts on whether it should remain under that title. Thanks.--Bcp67 (talk) 19:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
1979 England RU tour to Japan, Fiji and Tonga
Hi - do you have any information about the venues for the matches on the 1979 England rugby union tour of Japan, Fiji and Tonga The 1980-81 Rothman's annual says that the Japan 'B' game was played under floodlights at the Olympic Stadium in Tokyo, but there is nothing about any other venues - hope you can help, thanks. --Bcp67 (talk) 20:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your help with this. I am going to restore the club links on the 1979 tour article as I would prefer to have these in the article - at some point I might add these to the other England tours. --Bcp67 (talk) 19:34, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Its also useful and a bit easier to use the templates for the national rugby union teams (like England), rather than the version using a piped link. You do some good and useful stuff on rugby union - you ought to add your name to the Wikipedia Project:rugby union and looked at what is on there?? There aren't many people contributing to RU articles at the moment and it would be good if you can add yourself to the project. --Bcp67 (talk) 19:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your message. This article was flagged up as a blank page and, as consensus is that Wikipedia should not have blank pages, see WP:BLANK, I reverted it. I then see that you appear to have also performed a cut and paste move to 1920–21 in English football, another no-no as it loses the attribution in the history to all the editors who have worked on the text, thus breaching the terms of the GNU license under which all contributions are made. Further, I see that you have made a very large number of page moves without apparently discussing them first (but do correct me if I am wrong). I suggest that you voluntarily refrain from making any more page moves before someone stops you forcibly. I have raise the page moves at Wikiproject Football for input from others if you would like to chip with your comments. Kind regards, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hello, I'm striking out my message. The feedback I have is that you were acting in good faith, that there's nothing wrong with your moves (just the problem, I think, with 1920-21), so I apologise for leaving this. Please disregard it. I've asked for someone to sort out 1920–1921 in English football and 1920–21 in English football. Kind regards, --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:58, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
- Hi, 1920–21 in English football is now all sorted and complete with history. Drop me a line some time if you need help with anything. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 19:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry, I've only just seen your message - I've been offline all weekend. It looks to have been sorted out now. If you spot any problems in future it's probably best to mention them on the Football Wikiproject talk page, that way you'll reach a wider audience and if the fix requires the attention of an admin then you'll probably also attract one there. Also try to avoid copy and paste moves - only move a page using the move function at the top (bearing in mind any naming conventions before you do so of course). Any controversial or potentially problematic moves should be discussed before being moved. — Dan1980 (talk ♦ stalk) 21:11, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of 1997 FA Charity Shield
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Charity shields
I might get round to those articles eventually, but I have other priorities at the moment, and I don't know enough about the opposition's line-ups. ArtVandelay13 (talk) 14:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there. A consensus has been reached at WT:FOOTY that FA Cup finals should not be listed in clubs' navboxes, as it gives undue weight to the FA Cup, and to include links to finals that clubs were involved in would take up too much space. Therefore, it would be prudent for you to cease your actions regarding this matter. It's not that we don't appreciate the effort that you're putting in, it could just be better placed, that's all. Cheers. – PeeJay 18:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- I have just reverted your edits to FA Cup finals involving Manchester United. Please stop adding links to FA Cup finals to club navboxes. I have given reasons above. Thanks. – PeeJay 20:06, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of List of All Black Tests outside the Main 4 test venues
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- In response to your comment on my talk page, those pages will all be deleted in a few days, provided that no one removed the PROD templates from the top of the page. I would also suggest that you create one big list of every single All Blacks Test, including ones played at home and overseas. – PeeJay 20:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
All Black tests
Why split the All Black tests article into home and away? If you look at the lists of England matches, they aren't split home and away. Just makes sense to have one single list which would then give the full set of All Blacks matches all in one. The article which is currently being created can be quite easily expanded to cover all All Black tests - you and other people have done a lot of good work on it and it would be a useful article with the extra matches included.
Also, can you "sign" your posts on talk pages please!! You can do this by typing four "tildes" at the end of your post, which is the symbol which shares the # key on UK keyboards, or by clicking on that thing which looks like a signature at the top of the edit page. It's helpful to be able to see who has the left the message. Thanks.--Bcp67 (talk) 19:08, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
1939 FA Charity Shield
How do you know Portsmouth F.C. won the shield I can't find the result. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Hall of England (talk • contribs) 08:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- I assume you're referring to this edit I made to the 1939-40 in English football page. As I made the edit three years ago, I can't remember where I got the information from. It could well have been the FA Community Shield page, which looked like this at the time and listed Portsmouth as the winners. Having searched around a bit, I can't find any evidence that the Charity Shield was played at all that year, but I did find out that the result listed on the page matches the FA Cup final score of that year, so I presume that someone accidentally added the FA Cup score to the list. This is particularly plausible as the same mistake had been made with the 1946 and 1947 results, which I removed at the time. I note that the 1939 error has since been removed from the FA Community Shield page, but not the 1939-40 in English football page. I have now rectified this. - Green Tentacle (talk) 00:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
List of Champs and Chumps
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- Arsenal 12-7-6
- Aston Villa 7-10-2
- Blackburn Rovers 3-1-3
- Burnley 2-2-5
- Chelsea 3-3-4
- Derby County 2-3-4
- Everton 9-7-7
- Huddersfield Town 3-3-3
- Ipswich Town 1-2-3
- Leeds United 3-5-2
- Liverpool 18-11-7
- Manchester City 2-3-3
- Manchester United 17-13-6
- Newcastle United 4-2-4