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{{Infobox Film | name = Bonnie and Clyde
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I don't think origination fees and points are the same thing. This article may be actively misleading.--[[User:Srleffler|Srleffler]] 05:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
| image_size = 225px
| caption = film poster by [[Tom Chantrell]]
| director = [[Arthur Penn]]
| producer = Warren Beatty
| writer = [[David Newman (filmmaker)|David Newman]] <br>[[Robert Benton]]<br>'''Uncredited:'''<br>[[Robert Towne]]<br>Warren Beatty
| starring = [[Warren Beatty]]<br>[[Faye Dunaway]]
| music = [[Charles Strouse]]
| cinematography = [[Burnett Guffey]]
| editing = [[Dede Allen]]
| distributor = [[Warner Bros.-Seven Arts]]
| released = 4 August {{fy|1967}} ''([[Montreal Film Festival|Montreal Film Fest.]])''<br>13 August {{fy|1967}} ''(US)''
| runtime = 111 minutes
| country = {{FilmUS}}
| language = {{English}}
| budget = [[United States dollar|$]]2,500,000 ''(est.)''
| gross =
| imdb_id = 0061418
}}
'''''Bonnie and Clyde''''' is a {{fy|1967}} [[American (word)|American]] [[crime film]] about [[Bonnie and Clyde|Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow]], the bank robbers who operated in the [[central United States]] during the [[Great Depression]]. The film was directed by [[Arthur Penn]], and stars [[Warren Beatty]] as Clyde Barrow and [[Faye Dunaway]] as Bonnie Parker. The screenplay was written by [[David Newman (filmmaker)|David Newman]] and [[Robert Benton]], with [[Robert Towne]] and Beatty providing uncredited contributions to the script.


''Bonnie and Clyde'' is considered a landmark film, and is regarded as one of the first films of the [[New Hollywood]] era, in that it broke many [[taboo]]s and was popular with the younger generation. Its success motivated other filmmakers to be more forward about presenting sex and violence in their films. The culmination of this trend may have been ''[[The Wild Bunch]]''.<ref>Louis Gianetti, ''Flashback: A Brief History of Film'', 5th edtn (Pearson, 2006), p. 306.</ref> ''Bonnie and Clyde'' received [[Academy Awards]] for Best Supporting Actress and Best Cinematography.
: You're right. They're quite different. I've got a fairly strong grasp of most financial mathematics, and I'll give this page a look when I find some time. (Feel free to come to my talk page and ask me to look at this page if I forget). [[User:Davemcarlson|Davemcarlson]] 05:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


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I agree, from my understanding points are used to decide how much the origination fee is, but they are not the same thing. I would like a professional's opinion though. I work in a bank, but I'm a translator, so a lot of the technical stuff is over my head.


==Plot==
Yes, origination fees and points are not the same thing (in the process of buying a home now...) Buying point allows you to get a lower interest rate. The origination fee is a fee that a lender charges as part of the closing costs. --[[User:D3matt|D3matt]]
Clyde Barrow ([[Warren Beatty]]) tries to impress Bonnie Parker ([[Faye Dunaway]]) by stealing a car and robbing a grocery store. When Clyde brandishes his gun to display his manhood, Bonnie suggestively strokes the [[phallic symbol]], starting the seduction and crime spree. Like the similarly stimulating 1950 film ''[[Gun Crazy]]'', ''Bonnie and Clyde'' portrays crime as alluring and intertwined with sex. Because Clyde is [[impotent]], his further attempts to physically woo Bonnie are frustrating and anti-climactic.


The duo's crime spree shifts into high gear once they hook up with a dim-witted gas station attendant, C.W. Moss ([[Michael J. Pollard]]). The three are joined by Clyde's brother, Buck ([[Gene Hackman]]), and his wife, Blanche ([[Estelle Parsons]]), a preacher's daughter. Soon a long-simmering feud between Bonnie and Blanche begins; the once-prim Blanche views Bonnie as a harpy corrupting her husband and brother-in-law, while Bonnie sees Blanche as an incompetent, shrill shrew.
*Also this article seems very US-centric - I for one have never heard of points in New Zealand for example. [[User:Lisiate|Lisiate]] 00:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


With their new-found partners in crime, Bonnie and Clyde turn from pulling small-time heists to robbing banks. Their exploits also become more violent. When C.W., the get-away driver, botches a bank robbery by parallel parking the car, Clyde shoots the bank manager in the face after he jumps onto the slow-moving car's running board. The gang is pursued by law enforcement, including Frank Hamer ([[Denver Pyle]]), a [[Texas Ranger Division|Texas Ranger]] who is captured and humiliated by the outlaws, then set free. With a score to settle, the ranger leads a raid that kills Buck, injures Bonnie and Clyde, and leaves Blanche sightless and captured. Hamer tricks Blanche, whose eyes are bandaged, into revealing the name of C.W. Moss, known in the press only as an unnamed accomplice.
It woudl be of great help if somebody explained the meaning of "points" mathematically? Meaning, how does one arrive at 1 point ~ 0.25% in interest rate? Is a point payment of the difference in the present value of the interest the bank will collect over the next 30 years? This is not clear at all, hence the description as it stands is not useful beyond what is available on most lender's websites. - Dubravko


The ranger locates Bonnie and Clyde and C.W. hiding at the house of C.W.'s father, Ivan Moss ([[Dub Taylor]]). Because Ivan thinks Bonnie and Clyde have corrupted his son, he strikes a bargain with Hamer: in exchange for a lenient jail sentence for C.W., he reveals Bonnie and Clyde's location and helps the cops set a trap for them. When Bonnie and Clyde are ambushed, the cops riddle their bodies with bullets in a blood bath shocking for a 1967 [[Cinema of the United States|Hollywood]] film.
* I can't conjure up the math right now, but I'd recognize it if I saw it. The .25% only applies to a 30-year loan that is compounded monthly. (I've also heard that the amount is actually closer to 0.125%)<br>Anyways, the concept behind it is that each point reduces the bank's net money loaned. If the bank loans $100,000 and the borrower pays 2 points ($2000) upfront, the bank effectively just loaned $98,000, even though the loan's face value (and the value upon which interest is charged) remains $100,000. Let's just say the loan was issued at a 7% rate (compounded monthly), and then after the discount points were taken into account, it fell to 6.5% (still calculated in relation to the $100,000 principal). The monthly payments corresponding to 6.5% of $100,000 are roughly equivalent to the monthly payments corresponding to 7% of $98,000, so the borrower is effectively paying 7% on the net principal loaned ($98,000). Instead of treating the loan as a $98,000 loan at 7%, the loan is treated as a $100,000 loan at 6.5%. If you have any questions, ask me on my talk page. I'm sure I could provide a better illustration if I had to. [[User:Davemcarlson|Davemcarlson]] 05:18, 14 November 2006 (UTC)


==Historical accuracy==
[[Image:Bonnieclyde f.jpg|thumb|left|225px|The real [[Bonnie and Clyde]], c.1933]]
The film considerably simplifies the [[Bonnie and Clyde|facts about Bonnie and Clyde]], which included other gang members, repeated jailings, and other murders and assorted crimes. One of the film's major characters, "C.W. Moss", is a composite of two members of the Barrow Gang: [[W. D. Jones|William Daniel "W.D." Jones]] and Henry Methvin. In 1968, Jones outlined his period with the Barrows in a [[Playboy (magazine)|''Playboy'' magazine]] article [http://www.cinetropic.com/janeloisemorris/commentary/bonn%26clyde/wdjones.html "Riding with Bonnie and Clyde"]. In that same year, he also filed a lawsuit against Warner Brothers, claiming that the film ''Bonnie and Clyde'' "maligned" him and damaged his character. <ref>http://texashideout.tripod.com/wd2.jpg</ref> There is no record of him having collected any damages.<ref>http://texashideout.tripod.com/wd1.jpg</ref>


The film portrays Texas Ranger [[Frank Hamer]] (played by [[Denver Pyle]]) as a vengeful bungler who had been captured, humiliated, and released by Bonnie and Clyde. In reality, the first time Hamer met either of them was when he staged the successful ambush and killing of them in 1934. In 1968, Frank Hamer's widow and son sued the producers of this movie for defamation of character over his portrayal. They were awarded an out of court settlement in 1971.<ref name="autogenerated1">[http://texashideout.tripod.com/movie.html Movie & Trivia<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
* Quick fix. I removed the disputed tag after moving appropriate text to origination fee. Created discount point article to redirect here (now I'm thinking it should probably be the other way around. As this was a quick fix, I'm leaving expert tags on both articles. - Ent


The only two members of the actual Barrow Gang who were still alive at the time of the film's release were [[Blanche Barrow]] and [[W. D. Jones|William Daniel Jones]]. While [[Blanche Barrow]] approved the depiction of her in the original version of the film's script, she objected to the later re-writes, and at the film's release, complained loudly about [[Estelle Parsons]]' Oscar-winning performance of her, stating "That film made me look like a screaming horse's ass!"<ref name="autogenerated1" />
== Requested move ==
[[Point (mortgage)]] → [[Discount point]] — Article generally refers to the concept as "discount point" and states that the two are interchangeable. Also, using the longer name helps to differentiate from [[basis point]]. [[User:MrZaius|<font color="Blue">'''MrZaius'''</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<font color="Blue">talk</font>''']]</sup> 12:42, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


The movie was partly filmed in and around [[Dallas, Texas]], in some cases using reputed locations of banks that the [[Bonnie and Clyde|real Bonnie and Clyde]] were to have robbed at gunpoint.<ref>[http://texashideout.tripod.com/movie2.html Movie & Trivia<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
'''No opinion''': this approach to me seems incorrect - that is, deciding what to call it. References are needed. If it is simply called points (as I recall), then Point (mortgage). If it is referred to professionally as Discount point, then the answer is obvious.--[[User:Gregalton|Gregalton]] 18:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


The poem that Bonnie Parker is reading as the police raid their hideout is 'The Story of Suicide Sal',[http://www.cinetropic.com/bonnieandclyde/sal.html], one of only two poems by the real Bonnie Parker known to exist (The other is 'The Trail's End', also known as 'The Story of Bonnie and Clyde'[http://www.cinetropic.com/janeloisemorris/commentary/bonn%26clyde/parkerpoem.html]; which she is shown reading out loud later in the film).
''It was [[wikipedia:requested moves|requested]] that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved.'' --[[User:Stemonitis|Stemonitis]] 14:53, 19 April 2007 (UTC)


==Production and style==
== When is the money paid for points regained? ==
The film was intended as a romantic and comic version of the violent gangster films of the 1930s, updated with modern filmmaking techniques.<ref>''The Movies'' by Richard Griffith, Arthur Mayer, and Eileen Bowser. [[New York]]: [[Simon and Schuster]], 1981 edition.</ref> Arthur Penn deliberately portrayed some of the violent scenes with a comic tone, sometimes even reminiscent of [[Keystone Kops]] [[slapstick]] films, then shifted disconcertingly into horrific and gory violence.<ref>Giannetti, ''Flashback, p. 307.</ref> The film was heavily influenced by the [[French New Wave]] directors, both in its rapid shifts of tone, and in its choppy editing, which is particularly noticeable in the film's closing sequence.<ref>Giannetti, ''Flashback'', p. 307.</ref> In fact, the film was originally offered to [[François Truffaut]], the most famous director of the New Wave movement who made contributions to the script, Truffaut passed on the project. [SOURCE : TRUFFAUT by Serge Toubiana and Antoine de Baecque]


''Bonnie and Clyde'' was also the first film to feature extensive use of [[squib (explosive)|squibs]] &mdash; small explosive charges, often mounted with bags of fake blood, that are detonated inside an actor's clothes to simulate bullet hits.
The article computes the number of months after which the money paid for points is regained, that is, the total savings in ''monthly payments'' because of points becomes equal to the money paid for points. It comes out to be 3.94 years in the example used and the article warns "If you leave the house before 3.94 years, you wasted money".


Actor [[Gene Wilder]] makes his film debut in a cameo as one of Bonnie and Clyde's hostages. His character's girlfriend was played by Evans Evans, wife of film director [[John Frankenheimer]].
This is not the correct way to compute the time after which the money paid for points is regained, because each monthly payment consists of an interest payment and a payment towards the principal. There is no way to save on the principal as the whole principal has to be paid off eventually. Any savings is possible only in the interest payments. So, the correct way to find out when the money paid for points is regained, is to find the number of months after which the savings in the ''cumulative interest'' paid becomes equal to the money paid for points. At that time, the money paid for points is regained.


The family gathering scene was filmed in Red Oak, Texas. Several local residents were watching the film being shot, when the filmmakers noticed Mabel Cavitt, a local school teacher, among the people gathered. She was chosen then and there to play Bonnie Parker's mother. <ref name="autogenerated1" />
Running the figures in the example used in the article ($100,000, 30 years; 6% without points, 5.5% with $1500 paid in points), in an amortization calculator that shows the cumulative interest paid (I used [http://www.bankrate.com/gookeyword/mortgage-calculator.asp]) we find that after 36 months, the cumulative interest paid without points is $17667.89, but with points it is only $16166.89, a savings of $1501 in interest payments. The $1500 paid for the points will be regained after just 3 years, not 3.94 years mentioned in the article.


The film's final scene, edited in slow motion, is considered to be greatly influenced by the European new wave films of the decade.
If my calculation is not correct, I'd appreciate it if some one can let me know why. Thanks.


==Cast==
[[User:Aronz|AronZ]] ([[User talk:Aronz|talk]]) 04:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
[[Image:Bonnie and Clyde film photo.jpg|thumb|right|300px|<center>The Barrow Gang:<br>[[Michael J. Pollard|Pollard]], [[Faye Dunaway|Dunaway]], [[Warren Beatty|Beatty]], [[Estelle Parsons|Parsons]], and [[Gene Hackman|Hackman]]</center>]]
*[[Warren Beatty]] as Clyde Barrow
*[[Faye Dunaway]] as Bonnie Parker
*[[Michael J. Pollard]] as C.W. Moss
*[[Gene Hackman]] as Buck Barrow
*[[Estelle Parsons]] as Blanche Barrow
*[[Denver Pyle]] as Frank Hamer
*[[Dub Taylor]] as Ivan Moss
*[[Gene Wilder]] as Eugene Grizzard
*Evans Evans as Velma Davis
*Mabel Cavitt as Bonnie's mother


==Music==
== Correction needed to the origination fee paragraphs too ==
The instrumental banjo piece "[[Foggy Mountain Breakdown]]" by [[Flatt and Scruggs]] was made famous to a worldwide audience as a result of its frequent use in the movie. Its use is entirely anachronistic, however; the [[Bluegrass music|bluegrass]]-style of music from which the piece stems dates from the mid-1940s.


== Reception==
Looks like a similar correction is needed for the paragraph about the origination fee also.
[[Warner Bros.-Seven Arts]] had so little faith in the film that, in a then-unprecedented move, they offered its first-time producer Warren Beatty 40% of the gross instead of a minimal fee. The movie then went on to gross over $70 million world-wide by 1973.


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[[User:Aronz|AronZ]] ([[User talk:Aronz|talk]]) 04:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
The film was controversial on its original release for its supposed [[Aestheticization of violence|glorification of murderers]], and for its level of graphic violence and gore, which was unprecedented at the time. [[Bosley Crowther]] of ''[[The New York Times]]'' was so appalled that he began to campaign against the increasing brutality of American films.<ref>Gianetti, ''Flashback'', p. 306.</ref> In addition, the film was criticized by many reviewers for making the subject matter too comical.{{Fact|date=April 2007}} Dave Kaufman of ''[[Variety (magazine)|Variety]]'' also criticized the film for uneven direction and for portraying Bonnie and Clyde as bumbling fools.<ref>[http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=Variety100&reviewid=VE1117789435&content=jump&jump=review&category=1935&cs=1&p=0] - ''Variety'' review by Dave Kaufman, August 1967.</ref>


==Awards and recognition==
[[Estelle Parsons]] won an [[Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress]] for her portrayal of [[Blanche Barrow]], Clyde's sister-in-law, and [[Burnett Guffey]] won an [[Academy Award for Best Cinematography]]. The film was also nominated for [[Best Actor in a Leading Role]] (Warren Beatty), [[Best Actor in a Supporting Role]] ([[Michael J. Pollard]]), [[Best Actor in a Supporting Role]] ([[Gene Hackman]]), [[Best Actress in a Leading Role]] (Faye Dunaway), [[Best Costume Design]] ([[Theadora Van Runkle]]), [[Best Director]] ([[Arthur Penn]]), [[Best Picture]] (Warren Beatty) and [[Best Writing, Story and Screenplay - Written Directly for the Screen]] ([[David Newman]] and [[Robert Benton]])


In 1992, ''Bonnie and Clyde'' was selected for preservation in the United States [[National Film Registry]] by the [[Library of Congress]] as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".
The payback period calculation is not a valid financial measure and should be struck all together. This is because payback period ignores the most fundamental of finance concepts: the time value of money. If you calculated payback period using the present value of future interest payments, that would help. A second, yet separate, item to keep in mind is that your future pricipal payments will be different as will the amount of profit that you'll make on selling the property before the mortgage is held to its full life (which is usually the case). A third item is that paying points may exclude the borrow from taking advantage of future interest rate decreases. For example, the zero-point borrower may refinance his mortgage if rates drop, but the point payer has to wait for rates to drop a lot more before it's advantageous for him to refinance. If the rate decrease is modest, then the point payer may never be able to refi whereas the zero-point payer can. This entire article should be rewritten. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/144.9.56.131|144.9.56.131]] ([[User talk:144.9.56.131|talk]]) 15:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


Some critics cite [[Joseph H. Lewis]]'s ''[[Gun Crazy]]'', a film noir about a bank-robbing couple, as a major influence. Forty years after its premiere, ''Bonnie and Clyde'' has been cited as a major influence in such disparate films as ''[[The Wild Bunch]], [[The Godfather]], [[Reservoir Dogs]]'' and ''[[The Departed]]''.<ref name="Times">Two Outlaws, Blasting Holes in the Screen; [[A. O. Scott]], [[New York Times]], [[2007-12-08]]; Accessed [[2007-12-08]]</ref>
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In June 2008, the [[American Film Institute]] revealed its "Ten top Ten"—the best ten films in ten "classic" American film genres—after polling over 1,500 people from the creative community. ''Bonnie and Clyde'' was acknowledged as the fifth best in the gangster film genre.<ref>{{cite news | publisher = [[American Film Institute]] | title = AFI's 10 Top 10 | date = [[2008-06-17]] | url = http://www.afi.com/10top10/gangster.html | accessdate=2008-06-18}}</ref>

===American Film Institute recognition===
*1998 - [[AFI's 100 Years... 100 Movies]] - #27
*2001 - [[AFI's 100 Years... 100 Thrills]] - #13
*2002 - [[AFI's 100 Years... 100 Passions]] - #65
*2003 - [[AFI's 100 Years... 100 Heroes and Villains]]
** Clyde Barrow & Bonnie Parker - Villain #32
*2005 [[AFI's 100 Years... 100 Movie Quotes]]:
**"We rob banks." - #41
*2007 - [[AFI's 100 Years... 100 Movies (10th Anniversary Edition)]] - #42
*2008 - [[AFI's 10 Top 10]] - #5 [[gangster film]]

==Notes==
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==External links==
* {{imdb title|0061418|Bonnie and Clyde}}
* {{tcmdb title|24779|Bonnie and Clyde}}
* {{amg movie|1:6614|Bonnie and Clyde}}
* [http://pro.imdb.com/rg/TITLETRA_VIDDET//http://videodetective.com/home.asp?PublishedID=479989 ''Theatrical trailer'' (wmv, 28-300kbit/s)]
* [http://film.virtual-history.com/film.php?filmid=2040 Literature on Bonnie and Clyde]

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Bonnie and Clyde
File:Bonnie and Clyde.JPG
film poster by Tom Chantrell
Directed byArthur Penn
Written byDavid Newman
Robert Benton
Uncredited:
Robert Towne
Warren Beatty
Produced byWarren Beatty
StarringWarren Beatty
Faye Dunaway
CinematographyBurnett Guffey
Edited byDede Allen
Music byCharles Strouse
Distributed byWarner Bros.-Seven Arts
Release dates
4 August Template:Fy (Montreal Film Fest.)
13 August Template:Fy (US)
Running time
111 minutes
CountryTemplate:FilmUS
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Budget$2,500,000 (est.)

Bonnie and Clyde is a Template:Fy American crime film about Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow, the bank robbers who operated in the central United States during the Great Depression. The film was directed by Arthur Penn, and stars Warren Beatty as Clyde Barrow and Faye Dunaway as Bonnie Parker. The screenplay was written by David Newman and Robert Benton, with Robert Towne and Beatty providing uncredited contributions to the script.

Bonnie and Clyde is considered a landmark film, and is regarded as one of the first films of the New Hollywood era, in that it broke many taboos and was popular with the younger generation. Its success motivated other filmmakers to be more forward about presenting sex and violence in their films. The culmination of this trend may have been The Wild Bunch.[1] Bonnie and Clyde received Academy Awards for Best Supporting Actress and Best Cinematography.


Plot

Clyde Barrow (Warren Beatty) tries to impress Bonnie Parker (Faye Dunaway) by stealing a car and robbing a grocery store. When Clyde brandishes his gun to display his manhood, Bonnie suggestively strokes the phallic symbol, starting the seduction and crime spree. Like the similarly stimulating 1950 film Gun Crazy, Bonnie and Clyde portrays crime as alluring and intertwined with sex. Because Clyde is impotent, his further attempts to physically woo Bonnie are frustrating and anti-climactic.

The duo's crime spree shifts into high gear once they hook up with a dim-witted gas station attendant, C.W. Moss (Michael J. Pollard). The three are joined by Clyde's brother, Buck (Gene Hackman), and his wife, Blanche (Estelle Parsons), a preacher's daughter. Soon a long-simmering feud between Bonnie and Blanche begins; the once-prim Blanche views Bonnie as a harpy corrupting her husband and brother-in-law, while Bonnie sees Blanche as an incompetent, shrill shrew.

With their new-found partners in crime, Bonnie and Clyde turn from pulling small-time heists to robbing banks. Their exploits also become more violent. When C.W., the get-away driver, botches a bank robbery by parallel parking the car, Clyde shoots the bank manager in the face after he jumps onto the slow-moving car's running board. The gang is pursued by law enforcement, including Frank Hamer (Denver Pyle), a Texas Ranger who is captured and humiliated by the outlaws, then set free. With a score to settle, the ranger leads a raid that kills Buck, injures Bonnie and Clyde, and leaves Blanche sightless and captured. Hamer tricks Blanche, whose eyes are bandaged, into revealing the name of C.W. Moss, known in the press only as an unnamed accomplice.

The ranger locates Bonnie and Clyde and C.W. hiding at the house of C.W.'s father, Ivan Moss (Dub Taylor). Because Ivan thinks Bonnie and Clyde have corrupted his son, he strikes a bargain with Hamer: in exchange for a lenient jail sentence for C.W., he reveals Bonnie and Clyde's location and helps the cops set a trap for them. When Bonnie and Clyde are ambushed, the cops riddle their bodies with bullets in a blood bath shocking for a 1967 Hollywood film.

Historical accuracy

The real Bonnie and Clyde, c.1933

The film considerably simplifies the facts about Bonnie and Clyde, which included other gang members, repeated jailings, and other murders and assorted crimes. One of the film's major characters, "C.W. Moss", is a composite of two members of the Barrow Gang: William Daniel "W.D." Jones and Henry Methvin. In 1968, Jones outlined his period with the Barrows in a Playboy magazine article "Riding with Bonnie and Clyde". In that same year, he also filed a lawsuit against Warner Brothers, claiming that the film Bonnie and Clyde "maligned" him and damaged his character. [2] There is no record of him having collected any damages.[3]

The film portrays Texas Ranger Frank Hamer (played by Denver Pyle) as a vengeful bungler who had been captured, humiliated, and released by Bonnie and Clyde. In reality, the first time Hamer met either of them was when he staged the successful ambush and killing of them in 1934. In 1968, Frank Hamer's widow and son sued the producers of this movie for defamation of character over his portrayal. They were awarded an out of court settlement in 1971.[4]

The only two members of the actual Barrow Gang who were still alive at the time of the film's release were Blanche Barrow and William Daniel Jones. While Blanche Barrow approved the depiction of her in the original version of the film's script, she objected to the later re-writes, and at the film's release, complained loudly about Estelle Parsons' Oscar-winning performance of her, stating "That film made me look like a screaming horse's ass!"[4]

The movie was partly filmed in and around Dallas, Texas, in some cases using reputed locations of banks that the real Bonnie and Clyde were to have robbed at gunpoint.[5]

The poem that Bonnie Parker is reading as the police raid their hideout is 'The Story of Suicide Sal',[2], one of only two poems by the real Bonnie Parker known to exist (The other is 'The Trail's End', also known as 'The Story of Bonnie and Clyde'[3]; which she is shown reading out loud later in the film).

Production and style

The film was intended as a romantic and comic version of the violent gangster films of the 1930s, updated with modern filmmaking techniques.[6] Arthur Penn deliberately portrayed some of the violent scenes with a comic tone, sometimes even reminiscent of Keystone Kops slapstick films, then shifted disconcertingly into horrific and gory violence.[7] The film was heavily influenced by the French New Wave directors, both in its rapid shifts of tone, and in its choppy editing, which is particularly noticeable in the film's closing sequence.[8] In fact, the film was originally offered to François Truffaut, the most famous director of the New Wave movement who made contributions to the script, Truffaut passed on the project. [SOURCE : TRUFFAUT by Serge Toubiana and Antoine de Baecque]

Bonnie and Clyde was also the first film to feature extensive use of squibs — small explosive charges, often mounted with bags of fake blood, that are detonated inside an actor's clothes to simulate bullet hits.

Actor Gene Wilder makes his film debut in a cameo as one of Bonnie and Clyde's hostages. His character's girlfriend was played by Evans Evans, wife of film director John Frankenheimer.

The family gathering scene was filmed in Red Oak, Texas. Several local residents were watching the film being shot, when the filmmakers noticed Mabel Cavitt, a local school teacher, among the people gathered. She was chosen then and there to play Bonnie Parker's mother. [4]

The film's final scene, edited in slow motion, is considered to be greatly influenced by the European new wave films of the decade.

Cast

File:Bonnie and Clyde film photo.jpg
The Barrow Gang:
Pollard, Dunaway, Beatty, Parsons, and Hackman

Music

The instrumental banjo piece "Foggy Mountain Breakdown" by Flatt and Scruggs was made famous to a worldwide audience as a result of its frequent use in the movie. Its use is entirely anachronistic, however; the bluegrass-style of music from which the piece stems dates from the mid-1940s.

Reception

Warner Bros.-Seven Arts had so little faith in the film that, in a then-unprecedented move, they offered its first-time producer Warren Beatty 40% of the gross instead of a minimal fee. The movie then went on to gross over $70 million world-wide by 1973.

The film was controversial on its original release for its supposed glorification of murderers, and for its level of graphic violence and gore, which was unprecedented at the time. Bosley Crowther of The New York Times was so appalled that he began to campaign against the increasing brutality of American films.[9] In addition, the film was criticized by many reviewers for making the subject matter too comical.[citation needed] Dave Kaufman of Variety also criticized the film for uneven direction and for portraying Bonnie and Clyde as bumbling fools.[10]

Awards and recognition

Estelle Parsons won an Academy Award for Best Supporting Actress for her portrayal of Blanche Barrow, Clyde's sister-in-law, and Burnett Guffey won an Academy Award for Best Cinematography. The film was also nominated for Best Actor in a Leading Role (Warren Beatty), Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Michael J. Pollard), Best Actor in a Supporting Role (Gene Hackman), Best Actress in a Leading Role (Faye Dunaway), Best Costume Design (Theadora Van Runkle), Best Director (Arthur Penn), Best Picture (Warren Beatty) and Best Writing, Story and Screenplay - Written Directly for the Screen (David Newman and Robert Benton)

In 1992, Bonnie and Clyde was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

Some critics cite Joseph H. Lewis's Gun Crazy, a film noir about a bank-robbing couple, as a major influence. Forty years after its premiere, Bonnie and Clyde has been cited as a major influence in such disparate films as The Wild Bunch, The Godfather, Reservoir Dogs and The Departed.[11]

In June 2008, the American Film Institute revealed its "Ten top Ten"—the best ten films in ten "classic" American film genres—after polling over 1,500 people from the creative community. Bonnie and Clyde was acknowledged as the fifth best in the gangster film genre.[12]

American Film Institute recognition

Notes

  1. ^ Louis Gianetti, Flashback: A Brief History of Film, 5th edtn (Pearson, 2006), p. 306.
  2. ^ http://texashideout.tripod.com/wd2.jpg
  3. ^ http://texashideout.tripod.com/wd1.jpg
  4. ^ a b c Movie & Trivia
  5. ^ Movie & Trivia
  6. ^ The Movies by Richard Griffith, Arthur Mayer, and Eileen Bowser. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1981 edition.
  7. ^ Giannetti, Flashback, p. 307.
  8. ^ Giannetti, Flashback, p. 307.
  9. ^ Gianetti, Flashback, p. 306.
  10. ^ [1] - Variety review by Dave Kaufman, August 1967.
  11. ^ Two Outlaws, Blasting Holes in the Screen; A. O. Scott, New York Times, 2007-12-08; Accessed 2007-12-08
  12. ^ "AFI's 10 Top 10". American Film Institute. 2008-06-17. Retrieved 2008-06-18. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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