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Hello and welcome to Esperanza's own online coffee lounge. Relax, take a break from editing, and chat about just about everything (except Wikipedia) with your fellow Wikipedians and Esperanzians. Note: Please do not include a timestamp in your signature. Instead, use just 3 tildes (~~~).

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Hangman

Old games in the archive.

_ O _ _ _

Guesses: O, A

Misses: E

Chess anyone?

Board 1

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

Chess anyone? - Davidpk212 20:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Pick your color. (I make e4 if it's white for me). --Misza 13 ^{T C} 15:07, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can I join the game on board 1?--Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} 01:40, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Exir, I'd gladly play with you, but I don't think I (or this page) can manage more than 2 games... Misza 13 ^{T C} 19:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, sorry. I'll be white. Here we go... Davidpk212 16:42, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Davidpk212 (white) vs. Misza 13 ^{T C} (black)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	a4	e5
2.	h4	d5	Interesting... --Misza 13 ^{T C} That I am, that I am. Davidpk212 20:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
3.	Nf3	Nd7	Your turn... Davidpk212 20:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] Nd7 - I'm going on a short WikiBreak now. Misza 13 ^{T C} 20:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
4.	Nc3	c6	Sorry, gotta break the symmetry. :) --Misza 13 ^{T C} 12:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] Symmetry? Who said anything about symmetry? Davidpk212 06:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
5.	h5	Bc6	It's opponent (in chess) versus opponent (in Elections) now... Davidpk212 06:38, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] An ex-opponent (in Elections) to be precise. --Misza 13 ^{T C} 12:09, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
6.	...	...

Board 2

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

ill play but im black Shadin

Let's go! --Misza 13 ^{T C} 09:38, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Misza 13 ^{T C} (white) vs. Shadin (black)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	e4	e6
2.	d4	f5
3.	exf5	h5	h5? Weird... --Misza 13 ^{T C}
4.	Bd3	h6
5.	Qf3	Bb4
6.	c3	Ba5	try that ;)
7.	Nh3	Nf6
8.	Bg5	b6
9.	Qxa8	c6	Bang! --Misza 13 ^{T C} sorry :)
10.	0-0	...	whats up Shadin Yeah, wassup? It's still your move. Misza 13 ^{T C} where did you go? Shadin Well, I'm still here. And it's still your move. Misza 13 ^{T C} 18:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bored? Wanna play Chess?

Chess anyone?--Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} 02:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adding two more boards! Add your name if you want to play Chess--Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} 12:01, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a fith board, if someone wants to play I will!--a c1983fan-Talk

Well...I just got here, and don't know how anything works...but if someone wants to play chess, I'm up for it.E va ^db

I'll take you on! F e tofs ^Hello! 14:55, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Board one

nd

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

D e ryc k C. (white) vs. Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} (black)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	e3	d5	hmmm... Strange opening. Probably didn't want me to use an opening book :-) .Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!}
2.	b3	e5	Strange, rite? Because I know nothing more than the basic regulations. D e ryc k C. 15:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
3.	g3	Nf6

Here. D e ryc k C. 10:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Board two

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

F e tofs ^Hello! (white) vs. Shreshth91 (talk • contribs) (black)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	e4	e5
2.	Nf3	Nc6
3.	Bb5	Nf6	The good old Ruy Lopez, it seems... F e tofs ^Hello! Berlin's defence variation--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ \|-\| ŗ 3 $ \|-\| ţ \|-\|) 15:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
4.	d4	cxd4
5.	Nxd4	Nxe4	I didn't expect that, but let's see your answer! F e tofs ^Hello! 13:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
6.	Qe2	d5	I haven't really played competitive chess in ages, so I'm just going along.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ \|-\| ŗ 3 $ \|-\| ţ \|-\|) 14:53, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
7.	O-O	Bc5	I'm going to my chess club right now :) F e tofs ^Hello! 18:22, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] Hope you don't ask anybody out there to help you :) --May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ \|-\| ŗ 3 $ \|-\| ţ \|-\|) 15:35, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] Me? Of course not... angel face F e tofs ^Hello! 16:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
8.	Nxc6	bxc6
9.	Bxc6+	resign	Bye bye rook... F e tofs ^Hello! 14:29, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] I resign from the game citing inactivity Shreshth91 (talk · contribs) (offline)

I will be online infrequently, so this game may take a long time.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 09:08, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

All right. Just remind me to play if I forget to play... F e tofs ^Hello! 12:03, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be in a wikibreak, could you wait until when I come back? F e tofs ^Hello! 22:58, 11 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Board three

nd

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

Misza 13 ^{T C} (White) vs Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} (Black)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	e4	c5	Sicilian Defence--Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} 07:41, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply] Whatever :) --Misza 13 ^{T C} 16:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2.	d4	cxd4
3.	Nf3	...	Sorry for the delay. :) --Misza 13 ^{T C} 10:01, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Board four

nd

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

Exir Kamalabadi ^{Join Esperanza!} (White) vs Shreshth91 (talk · contribs)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	Nf3	Nf6	The Réti Opening, it seems.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ \|-\| ŗ 3 $ \|-\| ţ \|-\|) 08:29, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
2.	d4	resign	I resign from the game citing inactivity Shreshth91 (talk · contribs) (not signed in)

~~Can I be white? I'm already playing a game as black.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 13:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

So are you. It's all right, I'll be black.--May the Force be with you! Shreshth91($ |-| ŗ 3 $ |-| ţ |-|) 13:35, 13 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Board Five

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

A c1983fan (talk • contribs) (white) VS zappa (talk) (black)

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	Nf3	d6	Go here
2.	e4	e5	Go here
3.	Bc4	Be6	Go here
4.	Be6	e6	Go here
5.	o-o	d5	Go here
6.	d4	e4	~~Dang - really wish I could make two moves at a time here. -zappa.jake (talk) 23:44, 17 April 2006 (UTC)~~[reply] Didn't take my hand off it! -zappa.jake (talk) 23:47, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
7.	e5	f3	Sure you didn't :-)--A c1983fan (talk • contribs) I am gonna turn in for the night, so you probably won't see anymore moves from me until tommorrow. G'night.--A c1983fan (talk • contribs) I just realized something funny... all the other games have been going on for like, a week or something... and we managed to complete like, 5 moves in a day. Ok, now it's G'night.--A c1983fan (talk • contribs) I would prefer if we moved our queens out of the way and kept them, but of course, it's your move, so feel free to do whatever you want, trade or not. Later, zappa.jake (talk) 02:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
8.	f3	Kd7	To save space, I moved some of our comments to a user subpage of mine to save some space on the coffee lounge.--A c1983fan (talk • contribs)
9.	Be3	Ke5
10.	Nd2	a5
11.	Qe1	Bb4	Sorry it took me so long... I've been busy.--A c1983fan (talk • contribs) No problem. Glad you're still here! -zappa.jake (talk) 23:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
12.	a3	Bd2	Yes! The game is moving again! parties -zappa.jake (talk) 23:19, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
13.	Bd2	Nf3	takes out bishoplaughs evily--A c1983fan (talk • contribs) CHECK - got your queen - laughs more evily -zappa.jake (talk) 22:27, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
14.	Kh1	Ne1	Ok, now that is an evil move you made.--A c1983fan (talk • contribs) Got a problem with it? Also, on a more serious note, please check this out. -zappa.jake (talk) 22:56, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
15.

Board six

	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h
8	g1 3 0								8
7									7
6									6
5									5
4									4
3									3
2									2
1									1
	a	b	c	d	e	f	g	h

E va ^db vs F e tofs ^Hello!

#	W	B	Comment(s)
1.	E4	e5	This is fun! It surely is...
2.	Nf3	Nf6
3.	Bb5	a6
4.	Bc6	dxc6	Take that... :) All right, I took it. And then...
5.	Nxe5

Anybody for Go?

5 in a row wins. Wikipedia:Sandbox/Game_of_Go/Manual if you don't know how to use the board.

Edit: The Go (board game) article informs me that this variant is called Gomoku.

- Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ ^{Rock on, dude!} (Black) vs. TBC^{??? ??? ???} (White)

CorbinSimpson resigned.

I may not be in Esperanza, but I'll play you :) --TBC^{??? ??? ???}

You can't play unless you're in Esperanza! :O You really should consider joining. Highway ^{Rainbow Sneakers}

It's okay, he can play. You should join; there's no drawbacks. Hell, even I joined, and I never join things. - Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ ^{Rock on, dude!}

Don't really feel like joining now, maybe next month :) --TBC

^{??? ??? ???}

Is "go" a Chinese game? --D e ryc k C. 08:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think Go and Gomoku are Japanese. - Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ ^{Rock on, dude!}

Go and Gomoku both originated in China, though they spread to Japan and Korea later on. --TBC

^{??? ??? ???} 10:13, 12 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend Kawabata's The Master of Go for a nice, simple story that deals with the complexity and history of Go. T e ke 18:32, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that's that. Good game! I clearly wasn't prepared for that. - Corbin ∫ 1 ɱ p s ɔ ♫ ^{Rock on, dude!} 05:55, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What music do you listen to?

What music / songs do you listen to when editing? Do you have different preferences when (for example) you do RC patrol, as compared to long edits, or other types of editing?

I like listening to Chinese songs by 5566 when editing. :) Kimchi.sg | talk

I listen to rock most of the time while editing.... Especially bands like Nine Black Alps and Stellastarr help me think..... i listen to metal while doing everything else like browsing and stuff... Jayant,17 Years, India • contribs 06:11, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When doing normal edits, I'll be listening to U2, and Radiohead. RC patrolling usually has faster paced stuff, like Green Day and The Darkness. Gets me all fired up :P . Banez 07:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I listen to http://www.bluemars.org/cryosleep.php. Actually, I have downloaded something like 10 hours worth of streams, so I no longer expend my bandwidth on it. Anyway, pretty relaxing if you're into beatless ambient/space music... Misza 13 ^{T C} 16:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can listen to most anything, but I generally prefer electro over anything. That goes for most situations too. The one thing I've discoverd is that I cannot listen to the Beach Boys while reading Nineteen Eighty-Four, and believe me, I've tried. Then I generally listen to Benny Benassi's album Phobia. zappa

It usually varries for me, but Celebrity Jeopardy recordings from SNL are usually good to listen to while fixing disambiguation links. :) -- Natalya

I listen to any songs as long as its not anything sung by Idol rejects or lame music such as the infamous William Hung. My favourites are Linkin Park, Eminem, Simple Plan, Hillsong Music and Green Day. Though I like most type of Pop/Rock, Metal, Contemporary Christian, Hip-Hop/Rap music. I'm not a fan of Chinese songs and I don't really like them though its bearable to my ears. --Ter e nc e Ong 10:10, 17 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I pretty much always listen to Radio Paradise when I'm editing, because it plays such an eclectic mix of music. That way, I don't waste 15 minutes agonizing over whether to listen to classical, world music, oldies, indie rock, electronica, or country... 'cause I'll probably hear all of that within an hour on RP! Tony_{(blah blah blah)}^{(look what I can do!)} 19:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'll listen to anything, literally. I have 2GB music on this comp, all kinds of stuff. Now Playing: Channel Z - The B-52's. ~Chris {t|c|e}

All Summer Long

Speaking of music, I have been wondering forever if I'm deaf or not. While listening to The Beach Boys' All Summer Long, I think (and hope) I am mishearing the first couple of lines.
I hear them as follows:

Sittin' in my car outside your lawn,

'member when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?

T-shirts, cut-offs, and a pair of thongs,

we've been havin' fun all summer long.

They just don't sound very classy to me, and I really don't think of the Beach Boys in that manner. Thanks, zappa

Those are the correct lyrics, according to a number of sites. - Pureblade | ^Θ 00:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's screwed up. Those would have been extremely "trashy" lyrics for their day, no? zappa

The "thongs" they're refering too are probably to Flip-flops, if that makes it any better. -- Natalya

Yeah, I guess that makes it a little better. -zappa (talk)

On a side note, I remember showing up for an important meeting at a church I once went to, which was presided over by a sort of heavy-handed guy. Because I was late, when I was rushing out of the house, I slipped on a pair of flip-flops instead of shoes. When I got there and walked into the room, he rose out of his chair and yelled at me to go back home and change because "you don't ever come into church wearing thongs." At the time, I was mystisfied why he thought I would be wearing one, let along two or more. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa!-E@ 00:12, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I love oldies! The Beatles, Elton John... my favourite! But of course I do like... Green Day.-- 陈鼎翔贡献 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 10:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I listen to anything from Pink Floyd to Gary Numan to Rammstein when I'm working on Wikipedia. I have a lot of relaxing electronica as well. Beno1000 18:12, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Two Gallants

I plug this band as much as I still do Toad the Wet Sprocket, my favorite of all time. If you like independant music and delta blues, this is the band to listen to. The guitar and drums never stop moving... melts _into T e ke 06:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Mascot

File:Lennyesperanza.JPG

I declare Lenny E. Speranza, the magical talking gerbil, official mascot of Esperanza. --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 00:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Not as funny as Can't sleep, clown will eat me's now deceased marmot. But it'll do. T e ke 02:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't even join, what authority do you have to declare mascots :) F e tofs ^Hello! 00:18, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The authority of helping an Esperanza member make his original sig. That and I promised not to ban him with all you other users who do nothing for me. T e ke 02:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support He is flippin' sweet! Maybe his last name needs some sort of accented character though? Makes him more exotic. -zappa.jake (talk)

Heavy metal umlaut — Lenny E. Spéranzä! Fe e zo (Talk)

Under the same authority as TBC, I officially declare his full first name to be Leonard. I tried for like ten minutes but couldn't think of a good middle name. Suggestions are welcome. -zappa.jake (talk)

Shuoldn't we vote?-- 陈鼎翔贡献 Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 10:17, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

But voting is evil! It only makes sense that Esperanza's mascot be unilaterally assigned by a non-member! :-) Fe e zo (Talk)

His middle name shall be Edward! --IAMTHE E GGMAN (talk) 01:01, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be Euler, but that's just me. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c

Or he could go the way of Harry S. Truman. Fe e zo (Talk)

Support. I thought he was an admin already. --Misza 13 ^{T C} 22:07, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now that was funny. T e ke 02:23, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Who tatooed the Esperanza logo on the poor thing? Now we're going to get a call from PETA... Tito xd^{(?!? - help us)} 21:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Uuuh... is he house-trained? (I've clearly run out of relevant things to say.) Steveo2 19:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
I like the new mascot. What was CSCWEM's marmot? ~Chris {t|c|e}

Happy 4/20...

Happy 4/20 everyone...--IAMTHE E GGMAN (talk) 23:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Happy belated 4/20 to you also! ...even though I have not experienced the true celebration of the day - dang, I need to move to Europe. It wasn't nice when I texted that message to my dad - he freaked out and started thinking about it in context of the Columbine High School massacre. Whatever, zappa.jake (talk) 06:06, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, Columbine was frightening. It happened at the end of my senior year of high school, we spent the next month scared. T e ke 02:38, 22 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there something special about ~~4-20~~ 20/4 (

) I am missing? ~Linuxerist E/L/T 18:10, 23 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst I'm not one for the legalisation of Cannabis… I've added 4/20 to the calendar. Quentin Smith

Cannibas should never be legalised. Kilo-Lima|^(talk) 16:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why? -zappa.jake (talk) 20:09, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Classical music?

I've been really getting into classical music lately (listening to Für Elise right now, actually.) Any advice on what other songs to listen to (and no, they don't have to be from the classical era. Don't be a smart alec ;) ) Evan S e eds (talk)

It's tough to go wrong with Beethoven. If you like him, his symphonies are all pretty superb. His piano works are also amongst the best from that era, so you might want to check out his piano concerti and sonatas. Brahms's piano work is great too. He wrote a pair of sonatas for clarinet and piano that are amongst my favorite pieces by anyone. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c

It really depends what you're looking for, there's so much great stuff out there. My personal favorites have always been Saint-Saens and Bach. For piano stuff, Chopin has some very interesting work as well. For more upbeat/intense music, I always enjoy John Philip Sousa and John Williams (yes, I know this is very mainstream, but it's still great stuff. :o) ). E WS23 | (Leave me a message!) 16:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I grew up with classical music, but I don't really have a favorite composer. If you are a technically oriented person like me, I would recommend Baroque music or the Classical music era such as Bach or Vivaldi; but if you are more emotional and artistic I recommend romantic music or impressionist music. SCHZMO ✍

Für Elise is one of my favorites, along with much of Beethoven's work. I am sure this is not a recomendation persay. ;) ~Linuxerist E/L/T 01:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I really like Vivaldi, especially his Four Seasons. Vivaldi is always good to listen to if you're feeling too wikistressed.--digital_m e_{(Talk)(Contribs)} 03:15, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Go for some choral works. I recommend John Rutter. He does a great "God Be in My Head", which I sung this morning at church and some nice Easter ones. Despite my general rule being that any music that is composed in the 20th century isn't music, I make an exception for him :P. Another great one is (John, Charles, I forget) Stanford (I love his Magnificat and Nunc Dimmitis in C, along with his Te Deum). Tallis' "If ye Love Me" is also very beautiful. --Celestianpower ^háblame 11:25, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I find John Rutter's All things bright and beautiful and For the beauty of the Earth both a bit twee. I like the rousing sort of tunes - "Ode to Joy", "Austria", "Camp", Russian National Anthem, "Internationale", &c. --Quentin Smith 13:00, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blasphemer! "For the Beauty of the Earth" is amazing! Fantastic! Beautiful! I could sing it all day long :D! --Celestianpower ^háblame 13:06, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Classical music?! Oh, I definately have to reccommend Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber. Also check out the Agnus Dei version of the same piece. Beno1000 18:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you haven't listened to much classical music, a broad selection will do more for you than depth in any one composer or era. Here are some of my suggestions for newcomers to classical music:

Brahms cello sonata #1 Op. 38 (for cello and piano, late romantic era). Sad but powerful
Haydn symphony No. 94 (Surprise symphony). For orchestra, classical era
Schubert string quartet (any).
Some renaissance lute music. I suggest the Ronn McFarlane CD.
Chopin piano Concerto No. 1 (for orchestra and piano). While this famous work lacks the interplay between piano and orchestra that characterizes the concerto form, it still contains some of the best writing for piano ever done, and is easy to enjoy
Bach's Brandenburg concertos (any or several). Baroque orchestral works with harpsichord (some have more harpsichord than others)
Grieg's Peer Gynt (especially if you like movie music). Orchestral

Or, if you want something for free, you can get my recording of a Schubert impromptu (piano solo) over on commons.

Again the common mistake to avoid is to think "gee, I really like Beethoven's piano works" and then buy a whole collection of that without balancing it out with other kinds of instrumentation, other composers, and other eras. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 03:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really a Tchaikovsky man myself. And of course... Bottesini. — ßott e siηi ^(talk)

As for more modern classical music, you can't go wrong with Copland's Billy the Kid, Debussy anything, or Ravel's Bolero or Menuet antique. For piano pieces, Bach French suites are nice and if you're interested in playing, if you've been playing for three-four years constantly (meaning not taking six months' break, or not playing Heart and Soul for eight straight weeks), then you could attempt to play them too. And you can always listen to 4'33". :-) --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 03:02, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rainbow Gathering

Anyone planning to go to the Rainbow Gathering in Colorado this summer? CQ

Heh - no - I live in the UK. Looks good though... --Celestianpower ^háblame 12:32, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If I was 50 years older I might… Quentin Smith

Peace? Love? Freedom? Sorry, but I don't think I'll enjoy going to a Rainbow Gathering or whatever its called...--☆TBC☆ 23:43, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Who's who

Is it just me, or is Wikipedia turning into a place for scoring brownie-points? Quentin Smith

That depends. How many brownie-points do I get for saying "yes"? smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 18:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd say so. (Check out all of the thank you notes on my userpage, if you want some proof.) Steveo2 19:09, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Dæmons and such…

Are there any dæmian esperanzans? For all that, any dæmian Wikipedians? (If you don't know what I mean, see http://daemons.envy.nu ). Quentin Smith

I read His Dark Materials. I think my daemon would be a feline of some kind. Or perhaps a hawk. --F a ng Aili ^說嗎? 20:48, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like mine to be a dog, although it would probably end up being a sparrow, or perhaps a small gerbil. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 07:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fairly certain mine would be a cat. Could be a raven, too, though. —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 07:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My parent process is /sbin/init, so yes, I think I'd qualify as a daemon. --E lkman - ^(talk) 23:15, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Only one person in a million would find that funny." "Yes, we call that the "Dennis Miller ratio"." - They Saved Lisa's Brain smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 18:25, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes there are; hi there! Check out our userpage. :) --AySz88 ^-^ (aka Soup and Cel) 03:06, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WOO!!! His Dark Materials rocks! I'd like my dæmon to be a lion. Hehe. Beno1000 18:21, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

TV series recommendation

I've recently gotten into The West Wing and like it a lot. Based on that and my almost unhealthy interest in politics, is there anything else you can recommend to me? (Apart from the obvious Yes, Minister.) While I'm also open to comedy series (which series from the "See also" section of Yes, Minister are worth it, BTW?), I'd be more interested in more serious series (say that five times quickly) about politics... Thanks a lot for any suggestions! —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 07:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My Dad's the Prime Minister is quite good if you're less than 12 years old :P. --Celestianpower ^háblame 10:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Thick of It was extremely good :) And remarkably accurate!ALR 11:04, 3 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! (I'll ignore MDtPM and check out TToI, then. =]) What of The New Statesman and the House of Cards trilogy? —Nightstallion (?) ^{Seen this already?} 09:38, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

House of Cards was good, very dark although perhaps a little too conspiracy. New Statesman is very much a product of its time and really depends on how you take Rik Mayall. If you liked The Young Ones then you'll like NS.ALR 11:41, 5 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The West Wing is my favorite series, so you got that there. Second on my shelf is Northern Exposure. T e ke 01:09, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In memoriam

Queen Mary II, whose maxims will always be "I will work harder" and "Authority is always right". A hero to her people, and devotedly religious. --Quentin Smith 07:24, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Surely that can't be Mary II of England? There isn't any other Queen listed on Queen Mary II. Kimchi.sg 08:29, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Her death will be remembered by all, as a answer to recent racial tensions. Her poisoning was not without character, for someone who has attempted to do much to end the difficulties. Someone who has died at age 30 in such a role will be remembered.

Her daughter, Queen Elizabeth, and her brother, George Cruikshank, Emporor of Atlantium, are all involved in the descent. Queen Elizabeth, who is aged just 13, was interrupted in a newspaper interview on her lesbian relationship to hear the news.

Queen Elizabeth will be crowned after the funeral of her late Mother.

The quotes sound more like Boxer from Animal Farm than Queen Mary II. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 14:31, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Computer problem

I wonder if anyone is here who can help me. An IT guy recently came and screwed with a friend's computer, and now it's coming up with "Disk/hardware configuration error" every time it starts up (as in, Windows refuses to boot up, doesn't even get to the logo). Any ideas? haz (us e r talk) 12:15, 4 May 2006

Could you talk to the IT guy? Surely it would be his problem to make sure your friend's computer works.--digital_m e_{(Talk)(Contribs)} 20:32, 4 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe he twiddled around with the drive jumpers, or something's not seated properly. If the system can't find a master hard drive Bad Things tend to happen. -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c

Found it: he toyed with "boot.ini" so I used bootcfg to restore it. Microsoft support actually proved useful! [1] haz (us e r talk) 19:03, 5 May 2006

What, really?! --Primate^#101 18:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Modern music

So, what modern music do people like (or does everyone here only like classical, not that I have anything against it)? I've just got the new Snow Patrol album, Eyes Open. smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 14:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ewww! Modern music! *faints* --Celestianpower ^háblame 14:56, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New Red Hot Chilli Peppers album coming out this week - that should be a killer Kingfisherswift 10:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Celestianpower. Stay away, technofreaks.--XenoN e on (converse) 10:53, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The new Red Hot Chilli Peppers album is totally rocking...!!! I didnt buy it though.. I downloaded it off the net... *Hides face in shame* And I am gonna download the Snow Patrol one too.!! *Ponders whether it was such a good idea to say that on a public forum, Ohh Well..* Jayant,17 Years, India • contribs 13:46, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I HOPE you didn't download it of Limewire, young man.--XenoN e on (converse) 16:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, Nope.I totally didn't download it from limewire...I...(aah) just found some ..links, on a forum and i was ordered by the HIGH COUNCIL to follow where ever the links lead me to. And besides, shouldn't we all be trying to stop piracy that is killing the music industry rather than sitting in a coffee lounge and discussing about it!! Move it everyone! I got work to do!! (Phew, that was close.) *wipes sweat from brow* Jayant,17 Years, India • contribs 17:30, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Snow Patrol was awesome! Must buy (download ;-) ) for every Rock, Pop, Hip-Hop, and Snow Patrol fan! Jayant,17 Years, India • contribs 16:44, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not a big music fan. Is that weird? I've been told that that's weird. Steveo2 19:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

Dont think its weird. i wasn't a music fan until I was in 5 grade or so. No one considered it weird . just give it some time for the musical side of you to develop. ;-) Jayant,17 Years, India • contribs 19:23, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can't say that I listen to modern too much. Man, this is great! I'm glad that I joined Esperanza. I really like the environment. Mr. Turcotte

Nice to know that you like this place. What kind of music do you like Mr. Turcotte? Jayant,17 Years, India • contribs 20:33, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I myself enjoy classical, jazz, a little country, some R&B/Soul, and I do enjoy instrumentals. Mr. Turcotte

I dislike modern music and I also dislike classical music. Then again, I usually find myself disliking everything.--☆TBC☆ 23:35, 8 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I like indie and indie rock, similar things stc... gotta love The Libertines!!! wahoo. Philc _T^E_C^I 20:37, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

E³

Any thoughts about it so far? I'm personally looking forward to the Nintendo Wii--☆TBC☆

I prefer e^iπ. --Celestianpower ^háblame

Wow; that's one very high level joke... smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)}

I wonder if I should feel dorky for understanding the joke but not the topic itself... -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c

Understanding the topic and understanding the joke are both nerdy, but different types of nerdy. E³ is the computer games conferences which every gaming nerd in the world is waiting for with baited breath, while Euler's identity is said to be "the most famous formula in all mathematics". smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)}

I saw a stream of the Sony conference. There were some awesome looking games. I can't wait for the coverage to come out in force. However, I despise the idea of the Ninetendo Wii. - Pureblade | ^Θ

I can't help looking at the new PS3 controller and imagine the Sony bosses saying "Hmm... lets steal the middle button from the Xbox 360, the analogue triggers from the Xbox and the tilt sensors from the Wii, then pass it of as our own!". Mind you, I wish Nintendo had stuck with "Revolution" rather than gone for the wiierd name "Wii". smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)}

I'm hoping for some good coverage of Spore --Evan S e eds (talk)

Well, I've seen the feed from the pre-E3 press conferences, and the Wii looks awesome (PS3 doesn't look bad either, but it's pricey). smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 19:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm hugely excited about the Wii. Despite what you may think about the name, the gaming experience provided by it is going to be incredible. E WS23 | (Leave me a message!)

I'm excited about the Nintendo Revolution. I shall not call it Wii. ~Chris {t|c|e}

Why? Are wii disappointed with the name? (cheesy pun intended)--☆TBC☆ 22:31, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Laughs Vaguely*. That would have been funnier if addressed outside of the internet.--XenoN e on (converse) 18:22, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jeopardy!

Well, this is apropos to nothing really, but I found out yesterday that I've been selected to audition for Jeopardy! next month. This has been a dream of mine for a long time, and I think I have a pretty good shot of getting on the show. Anyone have any advice on what sort of things I should bone up on beforehand? -- stubblyhead | ^T/_c 15:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Word origins are important, and so are Presidents. A lot of the time, the tiny hints inside the question make it so obvious that you don't even have to know the subject matter. Steveo2 16:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Wow! Congrats to you! I wish you the best of luck. As for tips, Steveo2 is right. Look for clues in the question. Also be sure to stay calm. What's the worse that can happen? Mr. Turcotte 00:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, tell us when you're on. When Trebek asks what everyone does, or what their hobbies are, or whatever he does, make sure to tell everyone that you're an editor of a large online encyclopedia. Makes you seem intelligent/important. Good luck, zappa.jake (talk) 20:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Congratulations! No surprise a wikipedian was selected for Jeopardy...we wikipedians know tons of random facts. Good luck on the audition. SCHZMO ✍

That is so accurate, we know everything :D. Good luck stubblyhead, and I agree with Steveo2, word origins are the most important, I think. J. Finkelstein 04:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget presidents, vice presidents, and Oscar winners (best picture, actor, actress). Good luck! --zenohockey 19:36, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Study up on your alcoholic drink mixes and keep browsing Wikipedia! — ßott e siηi ^(talk)

That's of course for after the show. -zappa.jake (talk) 23:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, they seem to always have questions on that. — ßott e siηi ^(talk)

I know somebody who was selected to audition and they will be going on the show next week. I'll ask them for some pointers. --Fbv65edel ^{(discuss | contribs)} 03:04, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Navigation Tool Bar

I've just made a new navigation tool bar: User:TBC/Navigation. Any thoughts about it? Am I allowed to do something like this?--☆TBC☆ 04:38, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How does it work? haz (us e r talk) 07:19, 13 May 2006

It doesn't seem to be showing up here... F e tofs ^Hello! 14:18, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that I'm seeing it. Mr. Turcotte^talk

I don't see anything except for an unhappy face left of the Wikipedia logo. SCHZMO ✍

Doesn't work on IE either.... F e tofs ^Hello! 14:51, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You'll need to decrease the values of "right=" in your code; I don't what resolution you use, but on most systems, that is beyond what is visible. smurrayinchester ^{(User), (Talk)}

In fact, try using small values of "left=" rather than large values of "right=" Smurrayinchester

The RfA song!

Has anyone here heard the RfA song? It's brilliant; find it at Wikipedia:Song/The RfA Candidate's Song. It's even got an OGG, as sung by Bucketsofg ! smurrayinchester^{(User), (Talk)} 20:49, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LMBO! That's one of the greatest things ever. I just wish I had a friend or two in real life who would actually "get it"... E WS23 | (Leave me a message!) 21:41, 13 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's excellent. :) --F a ng Aili ^說嗎? 17:12, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, I love it and it's pretty accurate too. I also enjoyed the other songs on Wikipedia:Song. Unfortunately, as EWS23 said, it's not something I could share with my friends. SCHZMO ✍

What do others think?

"Forte staras muroj de l' miljaroj / Inter la popoloj dividitaj" - The best way of putting it is "Bloody hypocrite", no? --Quentin Smith 15:55, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is that Esperanto? What is the literal translation? SCHZMO ✍

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