South German football championship 1903/04

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South German football championship 1903/04
Logo of the Association of South German Football Associations
master Karlsruhe FV (4)
Championship finals German football championship 1903/04
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Player of the Karlsruher FV in 1904.

The South German soccer championship of 1903/04 of the Association of South German Soccer Clubs won for the fourth time in a row the Karlsruhe FV , this year in the final with a 5-0 victory against the Frankfurt FC Germania . As in most years before, this championship was also affected by short-term game cancellations and sometimes erratic changes to the original schedule, so that the final phase is difficult to understand from today's perspective. The date, place and result of the final are documented.

In any case, it was the fourth, and according to other sources even fifth, win in the southern German soccer championship for the Karlsruhe team, which qualified them for the German soccer championship in 1903/04 . In this, the Karlsruhe team was eliminated in the first round, but even caused the German football championship to be canceled through a protest against the game standings: the Karlsruhe team had to compete at Britannia 92 Berlin for the first final game of the German championship . The KFV did not complete this game, which was lost with 1: 6, with its best line-up, as some players had not been given a vacation for the long journey. Since the game did not take place in a neutral location as planned, the club lodged a protest against the DFB's evaluation. This objection was only discussed on the morning of the final on May 22, 1904, when the DFB officials met for their annual Bundestag. The DFB recognized the Karlsruhe protest, canceled the final planned for the afternoon and suspended the championship this year. Interestingly enough, the chairman of the KFV, Friedrich Wilhelm Nohe , was elected as the new DFB president at the same conference .

Mode and overview

For the first time game operation in round tournaments , the area of ​​the Association of South German Football Associations (VSFV) was divided into six districts, whose champions qualified for the South German final round. However, the regional conditions were very different. While the Maingau had to be divided into squadrons due to the large number of teams, games throughout Bavaria, for example, were limited to a Munich city championship with a handful of clubs. Across Germany, only 194 clubs belonged to the DFB at the end of the 1903/04 season.

gau Gaumeister
Main FC Germania Frankfurt
Central bathing Karlsruhe FV
Upper Bavaria FC Bayern Munich
Upper Rhine Strasbourg FV
Palatinate Mannheim FG 1896
Swabia Stuttgart Cickers

Gau Main

By far the largest participation was in the Rhine-Main area, a total of 32 teams registered for the Maingau, so that a division into squadrons had to be made here. In the Westmain relay, 13 teams competed against each other in an easy round, but Helvetia Bockenheim withdrew its team before the start of the round. Following the VSFV association round, a championship of the Frankfurter Association Bund was held in Frankfurt , in which four teams took part and that of the Frankfurter FC Kickers won.

East Main Season

Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
 1. Darmstadt FC  5  5  0  0 025: 500 5.00 10-00
 2. 1. Hanauer FC 1893  5  4th  0  1 038: 600 6.33 08: 20
 3. FC Viktoria Hanau  5  3  0  2 039: 900 4.33 06: 40
 4th Kickers Offenbach  5  2  0  3 011:130 0.85 04: 60
 5. Teutonia 1900 Offenbach  5  1  0  4th 004:360 0.11 02: 80
 6th Viktoria Aschaffenburg  5  0  0  5 004:520 0.08 00:10
  • Qualification Gaufinale Main
  • Relegated

    • West Main Season

    Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
     1. FC Germania Frankfurt  11  10  0  1 076: 500 15.20 20: 20
     2. Frankfurt FC Kickers  11  8th  1  2 066:310 2.13 17: 50
     3. FC Hermannia Frankfurt  11  7th  1  3 040:250 1.60 15: 70
     4th Wiesbadener FC  11  7th  1  3 040:290 1.38 15: 70
     5. FSV Frankfurt  11  5  2  4th 056:240 2.33 12:10
     6th FV Amicitia Bockenheim  11  4th  3  4th 040:230 1.74 11:11
     7th Bockenheimer FVgg  11  5  1  5 030:390 0.77 11:11
     8th. FC Germania Bockenheim  11  5  1  5 027:390 0.69 11:11
     9. Frankfurt FC Victoria 1899  11  4th  1  6th 029:290 1.00 09:13
    10. Frankfurt FC 1902  9  3  0  6th 018:360 0.50 06:12
    11. FC Alemannia Griesheim  11  1  1  9 009:750 0.12 03:19
    12. Rödelheimer FC  11  0  0  11 004:800 0.05 00:22
    13. FC Helvetia Bockenheim a  0  0  0  0 000-000 1.00 00-00
    a withdrawn.
  • Qualification Gaufinale Main
  • Relegated

    • Playoff Main

    date Result
    February 21, 1904 FC Germania Frankfurt
    (Winner Westmain relay)     		b-: - b Darmstädter FC
    (winner relay Ostmain)
    bGermania won the first game (in Offenbach) 2-1, but the Darmstadt team protested because the playing time was too short. After lengthy quarrels, the game was played again in Frankfurt on March 13, and again the result was 2-1 for Germania.

    Gau Mittelbaden

    The defending champion Karlsruher FV from southern Germany dominated in Mittelbaden and left the local competition behind.

    Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
     1. Karlsruhe FV (SM)  2  2  0  0 013: 100 13.00 04-00
     2. FC Frankonia Karlsruhe  2  1  0  1 004: 800 0.50 02: 20
     3. Karlsruher FC Phoenix  2  0  0  2 004:120 0.33 00: 40
  • Qualification South German finals
    • (SM) South German defending champion

    Gau Upper Bavaria

    In Upper Bavaria, as in previous years, only one Munich city championship was played, in which the following six clubs had participated and from whose autumn series FC Bayern Munich emerged , but according to another source the football department of MTV Munich . It is unknown whether a spring round still took place. In any case, the games listed here are not from the FC Bayern Cup, but from the MFB championship 1903 (autumn round). Although this was won by MTV, FC Bayern took part in the VsFV championship because "no other team had reported".

    FC Bayern Munich - Gymnastics Association Munich 04: 02 October 25, 1903
    FC Bayern Munich - TV 1860 Munich 00: 02 0November 1, 1903
    FC Bayern Munich - International Sports Club Munich 09: 02 0November 8, 1903
    FC Bayern Munich - FC Bavaria 1899 Munich 01: 00 November 15, 1903
    FC Bayern Munich - MTV Munich 1879 01: 03 November 22, 1903
    FC Bayern Munich - 1. Munich FC 1896 06: 02 November 29, 1903
    Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
     2. FC Bayern Munich  6th  4th  0  2 021:110 1.91 08: 40

    Gau Upper Rhine

    Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
     1. Strasbourg FV  3  3  0  0 019: 600 3.17 06-00
     2. Freiburg FC  3  2  0  1 015: 700 2.14 04: 20
     3. FC Mulhouse 1893  3  0  1  2 005:130 0.38 01: 50
     4th FC Donar Strasbourg  3  0  1  2 008:210 0.38 01: 50
  • Qualification South German finals
  • Relegated

    • Gau Pfalz

    Only clubs from Mannheim played in Pfalz, Ludwigshafen clubs did not yet take part in the association games.

    Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
     1. Mannheim FG 1896  3  3  0  0 018: 000 ∞ 06-00
     2. Mannheim FC Viktoria 1897  3  2  0  1 007: 900 0.78 04: 20
     3. Mannheim FG Germania 1897  3  1  0  2 003:100 0.30 02: 40
     4th Mannheim FG Union 1897  3  0  0  3 005:140 0.36 00: 60
  • Qualification South German finals

    • Gau Swabia

    The team of the Stuttgarter Kickers 1903/04. For years the number one in Swabia, they could not establish themselves on the southern German level until 1907/08 .

    In Swabia, too, only a few clubs from the Württemberg capital took part.

    Pl. society Sp. S. U N Gates Quota Points
     1. Stuttgart Cickers  3  3  0  0 011: 000 ∞ 06-00
     2. Stuttgart FC 1894  3  2  0  1 010: 900 1.11 04: 20
     3. South German FC Stuttgart  3  0  1  2 004:100 0.40 01: 50
     4th FC Karlsvorstadt  3  0  1  2 002: 800 0.25 01: 50
     5. Private TV Ulm c  0  0  0  0 000-000 1.00 00-00
    c withdrawn.
  • Qualification South German finals

    • Final round of the southern German championship

    Quarter finals

    Dates and venues of the Karlsruhe FV (all games) according to Ivo Schricker , who participated himself.

    date Result place
    January 31, 1904 Strasbourg FV
    (Winner Gau Oberrhein)     		1: 1 Karlsruher FV
    (Winner Gau Mittelbaden)     		Strasbourg (Le Nôtre)
    February 21, 1904 Stuttgarter Kickers
    (Winner Gau Schwaben)     		?:? FC Bayern Munich
    (Winner Gau Oberbayern)     		Ulm
    March 20, 1904 FC Germania Frankfurt
    (Winner Gau Main)     		4-0 Mannheim FG 1896
    (Winner Gau Pfalz)

    Replay game:

    date Result place
    February 14, 1904 Karlsruher FV
    (Winner Gau Mittelbaden)     		4: 1 Strasbourg FV
    (Winner Gau Oberrhein)     		Strasbourg (Haguenau)

    In the following round, the KFV was supposed to compete at Mannheim 1896 on February 28, 1904, but the game was canceled the day before and, it seems, not rescheduled. Instead, the Mannheimers met Germania Frankfurt (see above), Karlsruhe against the Stuttgarter Kickers.

    Semifinals

    Wetzler and Zinser were the goal scorers for Karlsruhe.

    date Result place
    March 13, 1904 Karlsruhe FV 2: 0 (0: 0) Stuttgart Kickers Strasbourg (Le Nôtre)
    At that time, FC Germania Frankfurt had not yet been established as champions of the Maingau and was therefore out of the question for this “semi-final”, provided that a Frankfurt or Darmstadt team was still expected to participate. Some previews are formulated in such a way that the new (or old) master would be determined in this game on March 13th. Then things turned out differently.

    final

    date Result place
    March 27, 1904 Karlsruhe FV Karlsruher FV Logo.svg 5-0 VfL Germania 1894 Frankfurt.svg FC Germania Frankfurt Mannheim

    KFV : Wilhelm Langer - Fritz Gutsch , Kohts - Erwin Schricker, Ivo Schricker , A. Holdermann ("new from London ") - Hans Ruzek , Louis Heck , Rudolf Wetzler , Julius Zinser , Fritz Langer . The goals at 5-0 were scored by Wetzler (2) as well as Heck, Zinser and Holdermann.

    literature

    • Hardy Greens : From the Crown Prince to the Bundesliga. 1890 to 1963 (= Encyclopedia of German League Football. Volume 1). Agon Sportverlag, Kassel 1996, ISBN 3-928562-85-1 , p. 20.
    • German football (1900–1920) (= Libero, Special German, No. D3, 1992). IFFHS, Wiesbaden 1992, p. 85.

    Web links

    Individual evidence

    1. ↑ Neues Wiener Tagblatt of March 28, 1904, page 12, as well as: Betting book Ivo Schricker (handwritten), page 17, in the DFB archive; see also “Finale” below.
    2. ↑ Sportkroniek of March 31, 1904: “Sedert fijf jaren is de Karlsr. FV kampioen van Zuid-Duitschland "(one example, there are more)
    3. ↑ Prager Tagblatt of February 22, 1904, page 4
    4. ↑ Udo Luy: Fußball in Süddeutschland 1889 - 1908 , Kleinrinderfeld 2016, page 153
    5. ^ Walter Grüber: FC Bayern Munich. 6389 games. - Production and publishing BoD - Books on Demand, 2016 - ISBN 978-3-7412-0071-7 - p. 13
    6. ↑ Udo Luy: Fußball in Süddeutschland 1889 - 1980 , Kleinrinderfeld 2016, pages 150 f.
    7. ^ Luy, page 149
    8. ↑ Competition book Ivo Schricker (handwritten), page 17, in the DFB archive. The 1-1 draw in the first game in Strasbourg contains the addition “swamp”, which could explain (!) Why there was no extra time.
    9. ↑ The game was scheduled for the day, but according to the Prager Tagblatt (page 4) there was no result yet. Udo Luy (page 153) quotes the Neue Sportwoche , in which it was said that Bayern Munich had decided not to host it
    10. ^ Badische Landes-Zeitung of March 2, 1905, Mittagsblatt, page 3
    11. ↑ Match report in the Prager Tagblatt from March 16, 1904, page 6, in which the date and venue are confirmed.
    12. ↑ so z. B. the Badische Landes-Zeitung on March 2, 1904, page 3, but also Sport im Wort , issues 12 and 13/2004, pages 137 and 151 f.
    13. ↑ List as in the semifinals (!) After Sport im Wort No. 13/1904, p. 151 f .; Goals by Wetzler (1-0) and Zinser (2-0), the referee was Scherwitz from Strasbourg. The final eleven does not seem to be completely handed down.
    14. ↑ Prager Tagblatt of March 30, 1904, pages 30 f .; the match report also mentions both Schricker, Fritz Langer and Kohts.