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{{Infobox Wrestler
===[[Xanadu (colour)]]===
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|birth_place=[[Austin, Texas]]
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|debut=[[October 16]] [[1968]]
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'''Virgil Riley Runnels, Jr.''' (born on [[October 12]] [[1945]]), better known as "The American Dream" '''Dusty Rhodes''', is a semi-retired [[United States|American]] [[professional wrestling|professional wrestler]] currently working for [[World Wrestling Entertainment]] (WWE). He makes occasional on-air appearances on the [[WWE Raw|Raw]] brand and works as a backstage [[List of professional wrestling slang#B|booker]] and [[road agent|producer]] on the [[Extreme Championship Wrestling (WWE)|ECW]] brand.
:{{la|Xanadu (colour)}} (<span class="plainlinks">[{{fullurl:Xanadu (colour)|wpReason={{urlencode: [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xanadu (colour)]]}}&action=delete}} delete]</span>) – <includeonly>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Xanadu (colour)|View AfD]])</includeonly><noinclude>([[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 September 20#{{anchorencode:Xanadu (colour)}}|View log]])</noinclude>
This is only one of a large number of articles, each devoted to a single color on a [http://xona.com/colorlist/ color chart] that I suspect is not notable belonging to a website that I suspect is not notable, xona.com. Is it even clear that the whole list would merit an article on Wikipedia, let alone squandering a whole page on every color on the chart? How does one submit a whole batch of pages for deletion discussion at once? [[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 04:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
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I am also nominating the following articles for the same reason. There are many more; at the moment, this is as far as I've gotten with tagging them with the afd1 template:


Rhodes is a 3-time [[NWA World Heavyweight Championship|NWA World Champion]] and has also won the [[NWA Georgia Heavyweight Championship]]. He has also won many other championships during his wrestling career. He is a member of the [[WCW Hall of Fame|WCW]], [[WWE Hall of Fame|WWE]], and [[Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame|Wrestling Observer Newsletter]] Halls of Fame.
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==Professional wrestling career==
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Rhodes started his career as a rule-breaking [[Heel (professional wrestling)|heel]], tagging with fellow Texan [[Dick Murdoch]] to form the [[tag team]] '''The Texas Outlaws''' in the [[American Wrestling Association]].<ref name="WWEProfile">[http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame/dustyrhodes/profile/ Home > Superstars > Hall of Fame > Dusty Rhodes > Bio]</ref> In 1974, Rhodes turned [[Face (professional wrestling)|face]] after turning on tag team partner Pak Song and manager [[Gary Hart (wrestler)|Gary Hart]] during a match in Florida against [[Eddie Graham|Eddie]] and [[Mike Graham]]. This led him to break out as a solo face superstar, primarily in [[Florida]], referring to himself as "Stardust", the "White Soul King", and the "American Dream", a [[working class]] hero. Rhodes ascended to the top of several [[National Wrestling Alliance]] promotions in Florida (where he also wrestled wearing a mask as The Midnight Rider), in [[Georgia (U.S. state)|Georgia]], and eventually with [[Jim Crockett Promotions]] (JCP) in the Mid-Atlantic, which was the forerunner of [[World Championship Wrestling]] (WCW). Here, he formed teams with [[Manny Fernandez (wrestler)|Manny Fernandez]], [[Magnum T.A.]] as "[[America's Team (professional wrestling)|America's Team]]", and [[Nikita Koloff]] as The [[Super Powers (professional wrestling)|Super Powers]]. Rhodes was a [[NWA World Six-Man Tag Team Championship|World Six-Man Tag Team Champion]] with the [[Road Warriors]].


===Feuds===
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Rhodes had [[feud (professional wrestling)|feuds]] with stars such as [[Abdullah the Butcher]], Pak Song, [[Terry Funk]], [[Kevin Sullivan (wrestler)|Kevin Sullivan]], [[Blackjack Mulligan]], [[Nikita Koloff]], [[Harley Race]], [[Billy Graham (wrestler)|"Superstar" Billy Graham]], [[Ray Stevens (wrestler)|"Crippler" Ray Stevens]] and most notably, [[Four Horsemen (professional wrestling)|The Four Horsemen]] (especially [[Ric Flair]] and [[Tully Blanchard]]). Rhodes, Flair, and Race each fought each other many times over the [[NWA World Heavyweight Championship]]. Rhodes won the NWA World Title three times; twice by defeating Race (in 1979 and 1981) and once by defeating Flair (1986).


===Booking===
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Rhodes became a [[List of professional wrestling slang#B|booker]] for JCP while they were competing with the [[World Wrestling Entertainment|World Wrestling Federation]] after he won the Television Title in 1985. He is credited with inventing many of the WCW pay-per-view names and gimmicks, such as War Games, BattleBowl, and Lethal Lottery. The term [[Dusty finish|Dusty Finish]] refers to one of Rhodes' favorite techniques, ending a match in controversy after the referee is knocked unconscious.


===Dismissal from JCP===
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He was fired from Jim Crockett Promotions after [[Starrcade (1988)|Starrcade '88]], because of a taboo on-screen bloodletting (laid down by the [[Turner Broadcasting Company]] following their purchase of the company) during a November 26 altercation with the [[Road Warriors]].<ref name=spike>{{cite book|title=Wrestlecrap and Figure Four Weekly Present...The Death of WCW|last=Reynolds|first=R.D.|coauthors=Bryan Alvarez|pages=33-34|isbn=1550226614|publisher=ECW Press|year=2004}}</ref> Rhodes booked an angle where [[Road Warrior Animal]] pulled a spike out of his shoulder pad and jammed it in Rhodes' eye busting it wide open.<ref name=spike/> Rhodes was then fired from WCW.<ref name=spike/> Following this, Rhodes returned to Florida to compete in [[Championship Wrestling from Florida|Florida Championship Wrestling]], where he captured the PWF Heavyweight title and also returned to the AWA for a few appearances.


===World Wrestling Federation===
Some of them are arbitrary names. Others are commonly used names, but they have been assigned to a point on the color wheel as though they have an exact definition that they don't possess, outside of an arbitrary (and [[WP:NPOV|subjective]]) color naming system that may assign them as such. [[WP:NOR]] seems to apply too.
Rhodes came to the WWF as the yellow [[Polka dot|polka-dotted]] "Common Man" Dusty Rhodes, a gimmick some felt was intended to humiliate him, although Dusty later admitted that the gimmick and outfit were his own ideas. He was managed by [[Juanita Wright|Sapphire]], who was intended to represent the "common woman".<ref name=reflect>{{cite book|title=Dusty: Reflections of an American Dream|last=Rhodes|first=Dusty|coauthors=Howard Brody|pages=127-128|Sports Publishing LLC|year=2005|isbn=1582619077}}</ref> During his time in the WWF, Rhodes was embroiled in a heated feud with [[Randy Savage]] and his manager/partner [[Sherri Martel|Sensational Queen Sherri]], who in turn found a rival in Sapphire. After a particularly intense confrontation between the two couples, Savage's girlfriend [[Miss Elizabeth]] allied herself with Rhodes and Sapphire and was instrumental in helping them win the WWF's first mixed tag-team match during [[WrestleMania VI]]. However, Sapphire left Rhodes during [[SummerSlam (1990)|SummerSlam 1990]] for The Million-Dollar Man's money, which resulted in a feud with the latter, which also resulted in the national debut of his son Dustin. Both departed the WWF in January 1991, marking the end of Dusty Rhodes' career as a full-time in-ring competitor.


When [[Ric Flair]] left for the WWF in 1991, taking the NWA World Heavyweight Title belt with him, Dusty's old Florida Heavyweight Championship belt was used as a replacement at [[The Great American Bash#1991|The Great American Bash]] for the title match between [[Lex Luger]] and [[Barry Windham]] until a replacement could be made.
Here's an example of the attitude that has gone into the use of Wikipedia to imply that these color names are somehow official: in the article on [[Zinnwaldite (color)]], it says


===Return to WCW and ECW===
<blockquote>In the 1960s the American Telephone & Telegraph Company (AT&T) marketed zinnwaldite colored telephones for offices and homes. However, they described the color as "beige." It is therefore common for many people to refer to the color zinnwaldite as "beige."</blockquote>
Rhodes returned to WCW shortly afterwards as a member of WCW's booking committee and later joined the broadcast team, usually working with [[Tony Schiavone]] on ''[[WCW Saturday Night]]''. He would be paired with Schiavone and [[Bobby Heenan]] on pay-per-views.


[[Mike Jones (wrestler)|Mike Jones]]'s Virgil character in the [[World Wrestling Entertainment|World Wrestling Federation]] was named, at the suggestion of [[Bobby Heenan]], as an inside joke on Dusty's real name. When Jones jumped to [[World Championship Wrestling]], Heenan continued the joke by suggesting Jones's WCW character's name be made "Vincent", in reference to WWF owner [[Vince McMahon]]. The joke continued later in WCW when Jones changed his name again, this time to Shane, the same as Vince's son's, [[Shane McMahon]].
The implication is that "zinnwaldite" is ''objectively speaking'' the "real" name for this color, and people say the phones are "beige" only because AT&T flouted the "real" term and used "beige" instead&#8212;as though otherwise people would naturally have called the color "zinnwaldite". In general, these articles represent an attempt to create specific definitions that don't already, objectively speaking, exist.


In 1994, Rhodes returned to the ring to team up with his son Dustin along with The Nasty Boys versus Arn Anderson, Bunkhouse Buck, Terry Funk, and Col. Rob Parker. The angle occurred after Anderson turned on Dustin during a tag team match at Bash at the Beach '94 and Dusty, admitting to being an absentee parent who should have been at his son's side instead of Anderson, put on the trunks one more time in order to help his son gain his revenge.
Unfortunately, there are also many color articles that began with and/or now contain material that is actually notable information about the color (see [[Baby blue]], for example) but that have been adulterated with these subjective color name assignments. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 12:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


Rhodes was originally on the side of WCW in its battle with the [[New World Order (professional wrestling)|nWo]] began in 1996. At [[Souled Out#1998|Souled Out 1998]], [[Larry Zbyszko]] asked Rhodes, who was working the PPV broadcast, to accompany him to the ring for his match against [[Scott Hall]]. Zbyszko won the match by disqualification due to interference by the nWo, but in the postmatch melee Rhodes turned on Zbyszko and joined the nWo in a shocking moment that actually forced Schiavone off the broadcast in shock; he later returned, [[kayfabe]] ripping Rhodes for his actions for most of the rest of the night.
I acknowledge that some related articles are about colors whose specific values were defined at the outset, such as [[Mountbatten pink]]. However, what that means is: A specific color was selected for a specific purpose, and it has been given, or has acquired, a name associated with that selection. It doesn't mean that that name is in any sense an ''official'' name for that color. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 13:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
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He eventually left WCW and went to [[Extreme Championship Wrestling|ECW]] where he put over former [[ECW Championship|ECW World Champion]], "King of Old School" [[Steve Corino]].<ref>{{cite web| title=WWE.com Dusty Rhodes Bio | url=http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame/dustyrhodes/bio/}}</ref> Rhodes returned once more to WCW, re-igniting his feud with [[Ric Flair]].


===Total Nonstop Action Wrestling===
:'''Comment''' The instructions on nominating a bunch of articles is at [[WP:BUNDLE]] (also at [[WP:Afd]]). [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 05:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
He appeared on [[Total Nonstop Action Wrestling]] (TNA) shows, becoming the [[List of authority figures in professional wrestling|Director of Authority]] at their [[November 7]] [[2004]] [[pay-per-view]], [[TNA Victory Road (2004)|Victory Road]]. At the same time, Rhodes acted as head [[List of professional wrestling slang#B|booker]] and writer. In May 2005, TNA President [[Dixie Carter (professional wrestling)|Dixie Carter]] asked Rhodes to move onto a creative team, which included [[Jeremy Borash]], Bill Banks, and [[Scott D'Amore]]. Rhodes resigned as booker, waiting out the rest of his contract with TNA, which expired soon after.


===Turnbuckle Championship Wrestling===
* '''Keep''': The colour Xanadu is named after a specific identifiable physical object, the leaves of the Xanadu plant. Obviously the vast majority of the colors on the [http://xona.com/colorlist/ Xona.com Color List] do not deserve to have their own articles because they are purely arbitrary names and none of them in fact so far have their own article, contrary to what you have stated. Only those colors on the list that are based on specific physical objects suchs as [[plant]]s, [[flower]]s, [[mineral]]s, etc. and that match the colors of these objects as identified from other sources should have their own articles. This article on the colour Xanadu meets that criterion. [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 05:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
For several years, Rhodes operated Turnbuckle Championship Wrestling, a small Georgia-based promotion, featuring wrestlers trained by himself alongside veterans such as [[Steve Corino]].<ref>{{cite news | last=Perkins | first=Brad | title=On The Rhodes Again - wrestler Dusty Rhodes - Interview | publisher=Wrestling Digest | url=http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0FCO/is_2_3/ai_76726501}}</ref>


===WWE Legends and Hall of Fame===
::This color name site, [http://chir.ag/phernalia/name-that-color/ Name That Color:] is very popular and includes most of the [[Web color]]s, some [[List of colors|Wikipedia color list colors]], the [[List of Crayola crayon colors|Crayola crayon colors]], and the [http://xona.com/colorlist/ Xona.com Color List(Resene Paint Colors):] all on a single list of more than 1500 colors. There is also an [[HSV color space|HSV color wheel]] on which you can move a cursor around, get a slice of the color wheel at that point, and find out which of the codes on of the colors on the list is to the color you have chosen. [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 05:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
In September 2005, Rhodes signed a WWE Legends deal and was brought onto the [[Booker (professional wrestling)|Creative Team]] as a creative consultant. He made an appearance on the [[October 3]] [[2005]] ''WWE Homecoming'' in which he, along with other legends, beat down [[Rob Conway]], to whom Rhodes delivered a signature [[Professional wrestling attacks#Bionic elbow|Bionic elbow]].<ref>{{cite web| title=A Stunning Homecoming | url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/archive/10032005/}}</ref>


Dusty Rhodes was inducted into the [[WWE Hall of Fame]] on [[March 31]] [[2007]] by his two sons, [[Dustin Rhodes|Dustin]] and [[Cody Rhodes|Cody]].<ref>{{cite web| title=Rhodes finds peace of mind | url=http://www.wwe.com/superstars/halloffame/dustyrhodes/interview}}</ref> During his acceptance speech, Rhodes asked [[Ric Flair]] and [[Arn Anderson]] to hold up the "sign" and induct he and [[Harley Race]] into the [[Four Horsemen (professional wrestling)|Four Horsemen]].<ref name="WWEProfile" />
:::I can't for the life of me see how the name associated with some shade on some color chart is more notable than the name associated with some other shade just because it's the name of a real-life object while the other is completely made up. Besides that, more of the text of this article is about the plant than about the color that's supposed to be the article's topic!


During an interview on WWE's ''The American Dream'' DVD set, Rhodes claims that his most popular [[Promo (professional wrestling)|promo]] of all time was his "Hard Times" interview during his feud with Ric Flair. The promo -- which references out-of-work steel workers, factory runners and other blue collar individuals -- apparently resonated with wrestling fans that people came to him in arenas in tears to thank him for "honoring their plight."
:::As for the cool things that can be done on the website: they aren't pertinent to the issue at hand. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 05:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


=== Return to the ring (2006-2007) ===
: It is pertinent because the Name That Color website [http://chir.ag/phernalia/name-that-color/ Name That Color:] gets 12,000 hits on Google which shows that it is in fairly wide use, and most of the colors on it are from the [http://xona.com/colorlist/ Xona.com Color List]. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Name+that+color%22&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=] . [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 10:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


A few weeks before Survivor Series 2006, Dusty Rhodes returned to WWE to be a part of Team WWE Legends, led by Ric Flair. The team, consisting of Sgt. Slaughter, Ron Simmons, and Arn Anderson (acting as manager) competed against the Spirit Squad at Survivor Series. Rhodes, along with the other legends, was eliminated early on in the match before Flair managed to become the sole survivor. <ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/survivorseries/history/2006/matches/333248013/results/|title=Legendary survivor|date=2006-11-26|author=Noah Starr|accessdate=2008-01-12|publisher=WWE}}</ref>
*'''Delete'''. Well-known colors (e.g. [[Kelly green]]) don't get their own articles, much less those few people have ever heard of. [[Xona.com]], the originator of these "colors", hasn't even established its own notability. [[User:Clarityfiend|Clarityfiend]] ([[User talk:Clarityfiend|talk]]) 05:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


A few weeks before WWE's 2007 broadcast of [[The Great American Bash (2007)|the Great American Bash]], Dusty Rhodes returned to WWE television to feud with [[Randy Orton]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/archive/07022007/|title=A matter of time|date=2007-07-02|author=Andrew Rote|accessdate=2007-12-31|publisher=WWE}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/archive/07092007/|title=Bulldozed in the Bayou|date=2007-07-09|author=Lennie DiFino|accessdate=2007-12-31|publisher=WWE}}</ref><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/archive/07162007/articles/rhodesangeratorton|title=Orton’s audacity further fuels Rhodes’ anger|date=2007-07-16|author=Corey Clayton|accessdate=2007-12-31|publisher=WWE}}</ref> At The Great American Bash, Randy Orton defeated Rhodes in a [[Professional wrestling match types#Strap match|Texas Bullrope match]] after Rhodes was nailed in the head with the cowbell.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/thegreatamericanbash/matches/42789822/results/|title=A Great American Nightmare|date=2007-07-22|author=Louie Dee|accessdate=2007-12-31|publisher=WWE}}</ref> The following night on ''Raw'', after Randy Orton defeated Rhodes' son [[Cody Rhodes]], Orton delivered a vicious kick to his head while "The American Dream" was trying to tend to his son.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/archive/07232007/|title=One bad apple leads to Dominator destruction|date=2007-07-23|author=Corey Clayton|accessdate=2007-12-31|publisher=WWE}}</ref>
:I wrote most of the original color article on Kelly Green as a separate article, but another editor merged it and a lot of the other articles about the minor [[green]] colors into an article I had previously created called [[Variations of green]] to cover only the major, not the minor shades of green.
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kelly_green&diff=170101693&oldid=170099926 Original Kelly Green article when it was separate:] [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 11:06, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


On [[December 10]] [[2007]], on the [[WWE Raw|''Raw'']] [[WWE Raw#Special Episodes|15th Anniversary special episode]], Rhodes was at ringside to see Cody and [[Bob Holly|Hardcore Holly]] defeat [[Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch]] for the [[World Tag Team Championship (WWE)|World Tag Team Championship]], and congratulated the two on their victory afterwards.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/results/5674900/|title=Rhodes and Holly golden on Raw’s 15th Anniversary|author=Corey Clayton|date=2007-12-10|accessdate=2007-12-31|publisher=WWE}}</ref>
::Only the most basic color names like [[red]], [[yellow]], [[green]], [[blue]], and [[magenta]] are abstract names. Most color names are based on physical objects. Examples include [[orange (color)|orange]] (based on the [[orange]]), [[Violet (color)|violet]] (based on the [[violet]]), [[Purple]] (originally from the secretion of a mollusk), [[Indigo]], [[Rose (color)|rose]] (based on the [[rose]]), and [[Cerise (color)|cerise]] (based on the [[cherry]]--''cerise'' is the French word for cherry). Therefore it is perfectly normal and standard to base the name of a color on a physical object as is the case in the [[Xanadu (colour)]] article. [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 05:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)


== In wrestling ==
:::Nobody here has said otherwise. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 11:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
*'''Finishing and signature moves'''
**'''''[[Professional wrestling attacks#Bionic elbow|Bionic Elbow]]'''''
**'''[[Piledriver (professional wrestling)#Texas piledriver|Piledriver]]'''
**'''[[Professional wrestling attacks#Elbow drop|Running elbow drop]] with theatrics'''
**[[Professional wrestling throws#Bulldog|Bulldog]]
**[[Professional wrestling aerial attacks#Crossbody|Diving crossbody]]
**[[Professional wrestling holds#Figure four leglock|Figure four leg lock]]
**[[Professional wrestling holds#Sleeper hold|Sleeper hold]]


*'''[[Nickname]]s'''
*'''Delete'''. Non-notable regional color. Even if it is to be kept it should be on some sort of shades / variations of grey page and combined with some of the other stubbed / small grey articles (such as [[Arsenic (color)]], [[Charcoal (color)]], etc...) similar to what was done with the greens. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 07:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**'''"The American Dream"'''
: '''Comment''' - The above delete is for [[Xanadu (color)]], I'll update my comment later on the others. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 13:08, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**"Dirty" Dusty Rhodes
:: '''Keep''' for [[Variations of pink]]. Delete / merge for the rest of the articles. Davy's grey: notability not established, though I'd did find some sources when searching going as far back as quoting something from 1896. Arsenic: not notable. Charcoal: color is not notable, though use of charcoals in art is but covered in the main article. Zinnwaldite: I've not been able to find any non-wikipedia sources for this name as a color, though I'm sure I've heard a similar color name before. Xanadu: see my comments above. As for variations of pink, similar to [[Variations of green]], etc, is it meant to house colors that have some notability but not enough for there own article. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 14:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**Midnight Rider
**"The Bull of the Woods"


==Championships and accomplishments==
*'''Delete''' It doesn't seem like an encyclopedia article type topic to me. I would have never thought that WP would have an article on any color. [[User:Northwestgnome|Northwestgnome]] ([[User talk:Northwestgnome|talk]]) 11:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
*'''[[Heart of America Sports Attractions|Central States Wrestling]]'''
**[[NWA Central States Heavyweight Championship]] ([[NWA Central States Heavyweight Championship#Title History|1 time]])<ref name=centralhw>{{cite web|title=N.W.A. Central States Heavyweight Title|work=Wrestling Titles|url=http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/centralstates/nwa/cs-h.html|accessdate=2008-01-06}}</ref>
**[[NWA North American Tag Team Championship|NWA North American Tag Team Championship ''(Central States version)'']] ([[NWA North American Tag Team Championship#Title History|1 time]]) - with Dick Murdoch<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/centralstates/nwa/cs-na-t.html NWA North American Tag Team Title (Central States version) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[Championship Wrestling from Florida]]'''
*'''Keep''' Pardon, but how doesn't this pass notability guidelines? For Xanadu and Charcoal (I didn't check the others), we have two good-looking sources each for the colour itself. If we want to argue that individual colour shades aren't significant enough for their own articles, we shouldn't seek to delete properly-sourced ones — that's the purpose of merging. [[User:Nyttend|Nyttend]] ([[User talk:Nyttend|talk]]) 13:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA Florida Bahamian Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Bahamian Championship#Title History|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/nwa/bahamas-h.html NWA Bahamas Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA Florida Brass Knuckles Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Brass Knuckles Championship#Title History|2 times]])<ref name=brass>{{cite web|title=N.W.A. Florida Brass Knuckles Title|work=Wrestling Titles|url=http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/fl-bk.html|accessdate=2008-01-06}}</ref>
**[[NWA Florida Global Tag Team Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Global Tag Team Championship#Title History|1 time]]) - with [[Magnum T.A.]]<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/nwa/global-t.html NWA Global Tag Team Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship#Title History|10 times]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/fl-h.html Florida Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>'''(Most Reigns)'''
**[[NWA Florida Southern Heavyweight Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Southern Heavyweight Championship#Title History|7 times]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/nwa/fl-south-h.html NWA Southern Heavyweight Title (Florida) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA Florida Tag Team Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Tag Team Championship#Title History|4 times]]) &ndash; with [[Dick Murdoch]] (1), [[Dick Slater]] (1), [[Bobo Brazil]] (1), and [[André the Giant]] (1)<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/fl-t.html Florida Tag Team Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA Florida Television Championship]] ([[NWA Florida Television Championship#Title History|2 times]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/fl-tv.html NWA Florida Television Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA Florida United States Tag Team Championship]] ([[NWA Florida United States Tag Team Championship#Title History|2 times]]) &ndash; with Bugsy McGraw (1) and [[Blackjack Mulligan]] (1)<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/fl/nwa/fl-us-t.html NWA United States Tag Team Title (Florida version) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA World Heavyweight Championship]] ([[List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/nwa/world/nwa-h.html NWA World Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[Georgia Championship Wrestling]]'''
::What ''objective'' sources? With authority to dictate names for colors, to say "This is what this color name refers to, and it doesn't refer to any other shade"? In the case of charcoal, the notion is preposterous. Charcoal&#8212;both natural charcoal and charcoal used in drawing&#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 13:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)comes in a variety of shades. There is no non-POV basis for declaring it to refer to a single shade. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 13:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA Georgia Heavyweight Championship]] ([[NWA Georgia Heavyweight Championship#Title History|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/ga/ga-h.html NWA Georgia Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA National Heavyweight Championship]] ([[NWA National Heavyweight Championship#Title History|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/nwa/others/nat-h.html NWA National Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA World Heavyweight Championship]] ([[List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/nwa/world/nwa-h.html NWA World Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''International Wrestling Alliance (Australia)'''
:::That's one of the problems with providing coordinates for colors that are not part of some standard is that it strongly implies that their is one particular color for any name. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 14:22, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Dick Murdoch<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/australia/au-iwa-t.html IWA World Tag Team Title (Australia) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[Jim Crockett Promotions|Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling |Jim Crockett Promotions]] | [[World Championship Wrestling]]'''
*'''STRONG MERGE ALL''' Merge all gray shades to [[variations of gray]], all pink shades to [[variations of pink]], etc. Individual types of colors do not have the notability or references to sustain so many short articles. <font color="#1EC112" size="3px">[[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]]</font><sup><font color="#45E03A">[[User talk:Reywas92|'''Talk''']]</font></sup> 21:03, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA World Television Championship|NWA Television Championship]] ([[List of WCW World Television Champions|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/midatlantic/nwa/ma-tv.html NWA Mid-Atlantic Television Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref> '''(Last)'''
**[[WWE United States Championship|NWA United States Heayvweight Championship]] ([[List of WWE United States Champions|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-us-h.html NWA/WCW United States Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA World Heavyweight Championship]] ([[List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/nwa/world/nwa-h.html NWA World Heavyweight Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA World Six-Man Tag Team Championship]] ([[NWA World Six-Man Tag Team Championship#Title History|2 times]]) &ndash; with The [[Road Warriors]]<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/midatlantic/nwa/ma-nwa-6.html NWA World 6-Man Tag Team Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[WCW World Tag Team Championship|NWA World Tag Team Championship ''(Mid-Atlantic version)'']] ([[List of WCW World Tag Team Champions|2 times]]) &ndash; with [[Dick Slater]] (1) and [[Manny Fernandez (wrestler)|Manny Fernandez]] (1)<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/midatlantic/nwa/ma-nwa-t.html NWA World Tag Team Title (Mid-Atlantic/WCW) At wrestling-titles.com]</ref>
**[[WCW World Television Championship|NWA World Television Championship]] ([[List of WCW World Television Champions|2 times]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-tv.html NWA/WCW World Television Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref> '''(First)'''
**[[Jim Crockett Promotions|Jim Crockett Sr. Memorial Cup]] ([[Jim Crockett Promotions|1987]]) <small>with [[Nikita Koloff]]</small>
**[[Bunkhouse Stampede|NWA Bunkhouse Stampede]] ([[Bunkhouse Stampede#1985|1985]])
**[[Bunkhouse Stampede|NWA Bunkhouse Stampede]] ([[Bunkhouse Stampede#1986|1986]])
**[[Bunkhouse Stampede|NWA Bunkhouse Stampede]] ([[Bunkhouse Stampede#1987|1987]])
**[[WCW Hall of Fame]] ([[WCW Hall of Fame|Class of 1995]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/hof.html WCW Hall of Fame history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[World Class Championship Wrestling|NWA Big Time Wrestling]]'''
::At least that, yes, but that wouldn't eliminate a couple of the problems&#8212;(1) the issue of color terms that are pure inventions and as such only mean what some self-designated person or small group says they mean, and (2) color names in popular use such as "charcoal" and "baby blue" cover a range of shades, and the association of each of them with a single set of color coordinates is a completely subjective and arbitrary assignment with no basis in actual usage. Both of these points boil down to the same thing: Wikipedia articles aren't supposed to declare terms to have meanings that they don't have. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 22:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[WCWA World Tag Team Championship|NWA American Tag Team Championship]] ([[WCWA World Tag Team Championship#Title History|2 times]]) - with [[Baron Von Raschke]] (1) and [[Dick Murdoch]] (1)<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/tx/wccw/am-t.html NWA American Tag Team Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA Texas Brass Knuckles Championship]] ([[NWA Texas Brass Knuckles Championship#Title History|2 times]])<ref name=txbrass>{{cite web|title=N.W.A. Texas Brass Knuckles Title|work=Wrestling Titles|url=http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/tx/tx-bk.html|accessdate=2008-01-06}}</ref>


*'''[[National Wrestling Alliance|NWA Detroit]]'''
*'''Strong keep for Charcoal''', and '''Keep for the others'''. The color designation is very widely used for garments and other objects. A search for charcoal clothing on Google news gives 392 items, about half of which are relevant. [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&q=%2BCharcoal%20clothing&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn]. "Charcoal suit" as a phrase gave 10. [http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&um=1&tab=wn&nolr=1&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=%22Charcoal+suit%22&btnG=Search+News]." In at least a few of them the color is specified as being of significance in some manner. "charcoal-colored" gave 9 in GN, and an additional 225 in Google Scholar, 638 in Google Books, for a wide variety of types of objects. There are dozens of similar phrases to check for additional hits. As for the other colors, I suspect they might find at least a few such references. I don't see that anyone above even looked at all, and are just arguing about what ought to be included without actually checking for sources. '''[[User:DGG|DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG|talk]]) 23:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA World Tag Team Championship (Detroit version)|NWA World Tag Team Championship ''(Detroit Version)'']] ([[NWA World Tag Team Championship (Detroit version)#Title History|1 time]]) &ndash; with [[Dick Murdoch]]<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/mi/nwa/mi-nwa-t.html NWA World Tag Team Title (Detroit) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[National Wrestling Alliance|NWA Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling]]'''<sup>1</sup>
::"Wikipedia is not a dictionary." There is no argument that ''some'' of these terms don't exist or aren't used. Even with respect to them, one of the issues I've brought forward is whether any of them merits an article in Wikipedia as opposed to, at most, a dictionary. As for the ones like zinnwaldite and Xanadu: instead of suspecting that they might be used, the relevant question in an AfD is, I believe, is to replace suspicion one way or another with verification. Is zinnwaldite, in any notable sense, a color, and if so, then as a color, is there anything notable about it&#8212;is there anything worth observing about it&#8212;and can it legitimately be defined as narrowly as has been done? &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 00:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Championship]] ([[NWA Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Championship#Title History|1 time]]) &ndash; with [[Buff Bagwell]]<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/midatlantic/ma-t.html NWA Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[National Wrestling Alliance|NWA Mid-Pacific Promotions]]'''
*'''Keep''' they are all physical colors of the spectrum. How are they any more notable then say blue or purple? [[User:Tavix|Tavix]] ([[User talk:Tavix|talk]]) 13:07, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA Hawaii United States Championship|NWA North American Heavyweight Championship ''(Hawaii version)'']] ([[NWA Hawaii United States Championship#Title History|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/hi/nwa/hi-na-h.html NWA North American Heavyweight Title (Hawaii version) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
::Is Xanadu a color? Is zinnwaldite a color? As I noted, someone just made them up. As for the others, as I noted, someone made up the precise definitions given for them. [[WP:MADEUP|Wikipedia is not for things made up one day]]. As for relative notability, is something called "Davy's gray" really as notable as "red"? The same question could be asked about integers. Is 31,472 as notable as 7? Should there be an article about 31,472 just because it's a genuine integer? &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 13:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:::[[ Interesting number paradox|All numbers are notable]]. ;) ~ [[User:Ningauble|Ningauble]] ([[User talk:Ningauble|talk]]) 18:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
*'''Merge'''. Walk into the paint section of any hardware store and you'll see hundreds of poetic names on color chips, that doesn't make them notable. [[Zinnwaldite (color)]] is already merged into [[Beige]], and the color name beige predates the "zinnwaldite" telephones, which need a citation, by many years. [[Variations of pink]] should be merged to [[pink]]. Delete [[Arsenic (color)]] as neologism. Keep [[Davy's grey]] because it looks like a longstanding recipe for a pigment. Weak keep for [[Charcoal (color)]] because of the wide use of charcoal pencils in art. [[Xanadu (colour)]] should be merged to the [[Philodendron]] cultivar it's named after. And everybody knows ''[[Xanadu (film)|Xanadu]]'' is really a discotheque. [[User:Squidfryerchef|Squidfryerchef]] ([[User talk:Squidfryerchef|talk]]) 17:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
*'''OMG''' - A separate article for every item in [[List of colors]]! Seems mergeworthy as there are separate articles on major color (colour) families. ~ [[User:Ningauble|Ningauble]] ([[User talk:Ningauble|talk]]) 18:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:: '''Comment''' - FYI The [[List of colors]] is slightly misnamed, since it is actually a list of colors with articles. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 18:55, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
*'''STRONG KEEP FOR ALL''' Tonight I changed the color codes for the articles on [[Charcoal (color)|charcoal]] and [[Davy's grey]] after sourcing them to a widely used color list. Obviously, since charcoal has been in use as a color name since 1606, it should be kept! I added more references to the [[Zinnwaldite (color)|zinnwaldite]] article. I found that Zinnwaldite has been in use as a color name since 1953. It is very important that Zinnwaldite be kept in because so many people confuse the color Zinnwaldite with [[beige]] because of that A.T.&T. telephone. I would have no problem with merging Zinnwaldite with Beige, but I would prefer to keep them separate. I have sources for most of the unsourced colors in [[Variations of pink]] which I'll insert tomorrow. [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 10:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::'''Comment''' Do you have a source for the "zinnwaldite" telephone? If so that's pretty interesting and should be added to the article. [[User:Squidfryerchef|Squidfryerchef]] ([[User talk:Squidfryerchef|talk]]) 02:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:The point is that the telephone was ''called'' beige but in actual fact it was colored zinnwaldite and thus many people mistakenly identify the color zinnwaldite as being beige. [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 07:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
::::'''Comment''' - I've started trying to do more digging into what I can find out about telephones of that era. I believe the phone pictured on the Zinnwaldite page is a [[Model_500_telephone|Western Electric 2500]]. I've found one set that lists some colors for the phones which appears to be part of the 500, 1500, 2500 family, see http://www.paul-f.com/we500typ.htm#Colors for WE 500 series. Note the -55 Rose Beige, -59 Rose Pink. Those might be the colors used. No mention of Zinnwaldite. There is also http://www.paul-f.com/color.htm#WE500 on the same site. Also see http://www.porticus.org/bell/telephones-colorcharts-1.html and http://www.porticus.org/bell/telephones-colorcharts-2.html, unfortunately both charts are after the color that is claimed to be "zinnwaldite" was discontinued. Looks like a chart from 1954-1957 might be best. Again haven't found anything that ties this to the name zinnwaldite. And the name does not appear in one of the larger color dictionaries that I have. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 03:05, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


*'''[[National Wrestling Alliance|NWA San Francisco]]'''
::''What'' widely used color list? Sherman Williams'? Benjamin Moore's? Behr's? Lowes'? The World Wide Web Consortium's? If there's ''any'' one color list that could possibly be used as a source for notable names at the level of specificity you are aiming for, it would be something like Pantone. It certainly wouldn't be xona.com. (I had my house painted a Sherwin Williams color called "Innocence". In the end I chose it over "Demure" and "Romance". Should there be articles for those?) As it is, your source is a [[WP:NPOV]] violation, in my opinion. As far as zinnwaldite and beige are concerned, the two can't be "confused" because beige, like many color names, is a loose term that applies to a ''whole range'' of shades&#8212;and therein lies the fallacy in your arguments: the idea that every color name applies to one specific point in color space. Even the fact that you think it's a ''problem'' that people call phones beige instead of zinnwaldite indicates the level of subjectivity in your evaluation of this matter. To put it straight: no matter what other color term might be found from any of the numerous naming systems to describe the shade of the traditional light-colored phone, the fact remains that they ''were'' beige as well. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 12:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (San Francisco version)|NWA United States Heavyweight Championship ''(San Francisco version)'']] ([[NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (San Francisco version)#Title History|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/ca/sf/rs/sf-us-h.html NWA United States Heavyweight Title (San Fancisco) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref> '''(Last)'''


*'''[[Universal Wrestling Federation (Bill Watts)|NWA Tri-State]]'''
Here is the beige article with the color chart of colors in the beige range which I originally included in the article: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Beige&diff=235074912&oldid=235074864]. Obviously, zinnwaldite can be regarded as a ''shade'' of beige, but it is not beige, just as [[Bondi blue]] can be regarded as a ''shade'' of [[blue]] but it is not blue (Here is the blue article with the shades of blue color chart I originally included in it: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Blue&diff=130743365&oldid=130743042]). The color beige is a specific and definite color which is the color of undyed cloth. [[Beige]] is a pale cream/ivory color, not a pale brown color like [[Zinnwaldite (color)|zinnwaldite]]. [[User:Keraunos|Keraunos]] ([[User talk:Keraunos|talk]]) 07:24, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[Mid-South North American Championship|NWA North American Heavyweight Championship (''Tri-State version)'']] ([[Mid-South North American Championship#Title History|1 time]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/midsouth/mids-na-h.html North American Hevayweight Title (Mid-South) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>
**[[NWA United States Tag Team Championship (Tri-State version)|NWA United States Tag Team Championship ''(Tri-State version)'']] ([[NWA United States Tag Team Championship (Tri-State version)#Title history|1 time]]) - with [[André the Giant]]<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/midsouth/nwa/tri-us-t.html NWA United States Tag Team Title (Tri-State version) history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>


*'''[[National Wrestling Federation]]'''
:Bondi blue is blue just like a Red-tailed Sportive Lemur is an animal. Color names for the most part are descriptive not prescriptive. Furthermore wikipedia needs to be verifiable. Just saying that that telephone was zinnwaldite doesn't make it true and without good external sources it really shouldn't be presented as true. For the sources listed in [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zinnwaldite_(color)&oldid=240199563 Zinnwaldite (color) oldid=240199563]. The first is just an approximate RGB => CMYK conversion, especially since it doesn't seem to take color space into account. The second is about the mineral. The third is about the mineral. The phrase "Zinnwaldite color" occurs because that is the raw source of an HTML document. See http://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/handle/2027.42/5455 for the link to the pdf version, which clearly shows that that phrase is from a table and two different columns. The forth source is the only thing that is close, but the page that the picture comes from http://www.zerosightaccessories.com/our_forum/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=116&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=eb809f53d00151bbfcaf41108a524e72 makes no mention for Zinnwaldite besides in the filename of the picture, and the post it self lists them as "sun tan". Even the picture of the telephone shown does not seem to match the color shown in the infobox. [[User:PaleAqua|PaleAqua]] ([[User talk:PaleAqua|talk]]) 09:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[NWF World Tag Team Championship]] ([[NWF World Tag Team Championship#Title history|1 time]]) - with [[Dick Murdoch]]<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/us/oh/nwf/nwf-t.html NWF World Tag Team Title history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref> '''(First)'''


*'''[[World Wrestling Entertainment]]'''
:"[[Bondi blue]] can be regarded as a ''shade'' of [[blue]] but it is not blue." If that's what you say, then it is clear that you are attempting to change the language to suit your purposes. You are doing exactly what I claimed: assigning all color names to a single point each in color space and declaring that to be ''the'' correct meaning, and using this counterfactual notion as the basis for your argument here. This is a gross [[WP:NPOV]] problem. &#8212;[[User:Largoplazo|Largo Plazo]] ([[User talk:Largoplazo|talk]]) 10:15, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
**[[WWE Hall of Fame]] ([[List of members of the WWE Hall of Fame|Class of 2007]])<ref>[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wwe/hof.html WWF/WWE Hall of Fame history] At wrestling-titles.com</ref>

*'''[[Pro Wrestling Illustrated]]'''
**[[PWI Match of the Year]] (1979) <small>vs. [[Harley Race]] on August 21</small>
**PWI Match of the Year (1986) <small>vs. [[Ric Flair]] in a [[Professional wrestling match types#Cages|cage match]] at [[The Great American Bash#1986|The Great American Bash]]</small>
**[[PWI Wrestler of the Year]] (1977, 1978)
**[[PWI Feud of the Year]] (1987) <small>[[Four Horsemen (professional wrestling)|Four Horsemen]] vs. [[Super Powers (professional wrestling)|Super Powers]] and the [[Road Warriors]]</small>
**[[PWI Most Popular Wrestler of the Year]] (1978, 1979, 1987)

*'''[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards]]'''
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Most Charismatic|Most Charismatic]] (1982) <small>tied with [[Ric Flair]]</small>
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Most Overrated|Most Overrated]] (1987, 1988)
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Worst Television Announcer|Worst Television Announcer]] (1997)
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Best Booker|Best Booker]] (1986)
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Best Babyface|Best Babyface]] (1980)
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Readers' Least Favorite Wrestler|Readers' Least Favorite Wrestler]] (1987, 1988)
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Most Embarrassing Wrestler|Most Embarrassing Wrestler]] (1990)
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Worst Feud of the Year|Worst Feud of the Year]] (1988) <small>(as The Midnight Rider) vs. [[Tully Blanchard]]</small>
**[[Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards#Worst Gimmick|Worst Gimmick]] (1988)
<small><sup>1</sup>This Mid-Atlantic promotion operates out of the same region as the original and has revived some of the championships that it once used. However, it is not to be confused with the promotion that was once owned by Jim Crockett, Jr. and sold to Ted Turner in 1988. That promotion went on to be renamed [[World Championship Wrestling]].</small>

==Personal life==
Rhodes is divorced from his first wife Sandra and is now married to a woman named Michelle. He has two sons, [[Dustin Rhodes|Dustin]] and [[Cody Rhodes|Cody]], both of whom are also professional wrestlers.

==Media==
*'''Books'''
**Autobiography: ''Dusty: Reflections of an American Dream'' 2005 ISBN 1-58261-907-7

*'''DVDs'''
**''The American Dream: The Dusty Rhodes Story'' 2006 (World Wrestling Entertainment)

== See also ==
*[[Dusty finish]]
*[[Dustin Rhodes]]
*[[Cody Rhodes]]

==References==
{{Reflist|2}}

== External links ==
{{Portal|Professional wrestling|break=yes}}
*[http://www.midsouthwrestling.com/profiles.html TRIBUTE PAGES for Legends of Mid-South Wrestling also UWF & 1980's WCW]
*[http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/1340961-dusty-rhodes "American Dream" Dusty Rhodes places 8th on Top 10 TV Greats list]

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Dusty Rhodes
Born (1945-10-12) October 12, 1945 (age 78)[1]
Austin, Texas
Professional wrestling career
Ring name(s)Dusty Rhodes
The Midnight Rider
Billed height6 ft 2 in (1.88 m)[1]
Billed weight302 lb (137 kg; 21.6 st)[1]
Trained byJoe Blanchard
DebutOctober 16 1968

Virgil Riley Runnels, Jr. (born on October 12 1945), better known as "The American Dream" Dusty Rhodes, is a semi-retired American professional wrestler currently working for World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE). He makes occasional on-air appearances on the Raw brand and works as a backstage booker and producer on the ECW brand.

Rhodes is a 3-time NWA World Champion and has also won the NWA Georgia Heavyweight Championship. He has also won many other championships during his wrestling career. He is a member of the WCW, WWE, and Wrestling Observer Newsletter Halls of Fame.

Professional wrestling career

Rhodes started his career as a rule-breaking heel, tagging with fellow Texan Dick Murdoch to form the tag team The Texas Outlaws in the American Wrestling Association.[2] In 1974, Rhodes turned face after turning on tag team partner Pak Song and manager Gary Hart during a match in Florida against Eddie and Mike Graham. This led him to break out as a solo face superstar, primarily in Florida, referring to himself as "Stardust", the "White Soul King", and the "American Dream", a working class hero. Rhodes ascended to the top of several National Wrestling Alliance promotions in Florida (where he also wrestled wearing a mask as The Midnight Rider), in Georgia, and eventually with Jim Crockett Promotions (JCP) in the Mid-Atlantic, which was the forerunner of World Championship Wrestling (WCW). Here, he formed teams with Manny Fernandez, Magnum T.A. as "America's Team", and Nikita Koloff as The Super Powers. Rhodes was a World Six-Man Tag Team Champion with the Road Warriors.

Feuds

Rhodes had feuds with stars such as Abdullah the Butcher, Pak Song, Terry Funk, Kevin Sullivan, Blackjack Mulligan, Nikita Koloff, Harley Race, "Superstar" Billy Graham, "Crippler" Ray Stevens and most notably, The Four Horsemen (especially Ric Flair and Tully Blanchard). Rhodes, Flair, and Race each fought each other many times over the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. Rhodes won the NWA World Title three times; twice by defeating Race (in 1979 and 1981) and once by defeating Flair (1986).

Booking

Rhodes became a booker for JCP while they were competing with the World Wrestling Federation after he won the Television Title in 1985. He is credited with inventing many of the WCW pay-per-view names and gimmicks, such as War Games, BattleBowl, and Lethal Lottery. The term Dusty Finish refers to one of Rhodes' favorite techniques, ending a match in controversy after the referee is knocked unconscious.

Dismissal from JCP

He was fired from Jim Crockett Promotions after Starrcade '88, because of a taboo on-screen bloodletting (laid down by the Turner Broadcasting Company following their purchase of the company) during a November 26 altercation with the Road Warriors.[3] Rhodes booked an angle where Road Warrior Animal pulled a spike out of his shoulder pad and jammed it in Rhodes' eye busting it wide open.[3] Rhodes was then fired from WCW.[3] Following this, Rhodes returned to Florida to compete in Florida Championship Wrestling, where he captured the PWF Heavyweight title and also returned to the AWA for a few appearances.

World Wrestling Federation

Rhodes came to the WWF as the yellow polka-dotted "Common Man" Dusty Rhodes, a gimmick some felt was intended to humiliate him, although Dusty later admitted that the gimmick and outfit were his own ideas. He was managed by Sapphire, who was intended to represent the "common woman".[4] During his time in the WWF, Rhodes was embroiled in a heated feud with Randy Savage and his manager/partner Sensational Queen Sherri, who in turn found a rival in Sapphire. After a particularly intense confrontation between the two couples, Savage's girlfriend Miss Elizabeth allied herself with Rhodes and Sapphire and was instrumental in helping them win the WWF's first mixed tag-team match during WrestleMania VI. However, Sapphire left Rhodes during SummerSlam 1990 for The Million-Dollar Man's money, which resulted in a feud with the latter, which also resulted in the national debut of his son Dustin. Both departed the WWF in January 1991, marking the end of Dusty Rhodes' career as a full-time in-ring competitor.

When Ric Flair left for the WWF in 1991, taking the NWA World Heavyweight Title belt with him, Dusty's old Florida Heavyweight Championship belt was used as a replacement at The Great American Bash for the title match between Lex Luger and Barry Windham until a replacement could be made.

Return to WCW and ECW

Rhodes returned to WCW shortly afterwards as a member of WCW's booking committee and later joined the broadcast team, usually working with Tony Schiavone on WCW Saturday Night. He would be paired with Schiavone and Bobby Heenan on pay-per-views.

Mike Jones's Virgil character in the World Wrestling Federation was named, at the suggestion of Bobby Heenan, as an inside joke on Dusty's real name. When Jones jumped to World Championship Wrestling, Heenan continued the joke by suggesting Jones's WCW character's name be made "Vincent", in reference to WWF owner Vince McMahon. The joke continued later in WCW when Jones changed his name again, this time to Shane, the same as Vince's son's, Shane McMahon.

In 1994, Rhodes returned to the ring to team up with his son Dustin along with The Nasty Boys versus Arn Anderson, Bunkhouse Buck, Terry Funk, and Col. Rob Parker. The angle occurred after Anderson turned on Dustin during a tag team match at Bash at the Beach '94 and Dusty, admitting to being an absentee parent who should have been at his son's side instead of Anderson, put on the trunks one more time in order to help his son gain his revenge.

Rhodes was originally on the side of WCW in its battle with the nWo began in 1996. At Souled Out 1998, Larry Zbyszko asked Rhodes, who was working the PPV broadcast, to accompany him to the ring for his match against Scott Hall. Zbyszko won the match by disqualification due to interference by the nWo, but in the postmatch melee Rhodes turned on Zbyszko and joined the nWo in a shocking moment that actually forced Schiavone off the broadcast in shock; he later returned, kayfabe ripping Rhodes for his actions for most of the rest of the night.

He eventually left WCW and went to ECW where he put over former ECW World Champion, "King of Old School" Steve Corino.[5] Rhodes returned once more to WCW, re-igniting his feud with Ric Flair.

Total Nonstop Action Wrestling

He appeared on Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) shows, becoming the Director of Authority at their November 7 2004 pay-per-view, Victory Road. At the same time, Rhodes acted as head booker and writer. In May 2005, TNA President Dixie Carter asked Rhodes to move onto a creative team, which included Jeremy Borash, Bill Banks, and Scott D'Amore. Rhodes resigned as booker, waiting out the rest of his contract with TNA, which expired soon after.

Turnbuckle Championship Wrestling

For several years, Rhodes operated Turnbuckle Championship Wrestling, a small Georgia-based promotion, featuring wrestlers trained by himself alongside veterans such as Steve Corino.[6]

WWE Legends and Hall of Fame

In September 2005, Rhodes signed a WWE Legends deal and was brought onto the Creative Team as a creative consultant. He made an appearance on the October 3 2005 WWE Homecoming in which he, along with other legends, beat down Rob Conway, to whom Rhodes delivered a signature Bionic elbow.[7]

Dusty Rhodes was inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame on March 31 2007 by his two sons, Dustin and Cody.[8] During his acceptance speech, Rhodes asked Ric Flair and Arn Anderson to hold up the "sign" and induct he and Harley Race into the Four Horsemen.[2]

During an interview on WWE's The American Dream DVD set, Rhodes claims that his most popular promo of all time was his "Hard Times" interview during his feud with Ric Flair. The promo -- which references out-of-work steel workers, factory runners and other blue collar individuals -- apparently resonated with wrestling fans that people came to him in arenas in tears to thank him for "honoring their plight."

Return to the ring (2006-2007)

A few weeks before Survivor Series 2006, Dusty Rhodes returned to WWE to be a part of Team WWE Legends, led by Ric Flair. The team, consisting of Sgt. Slaughter, Ron Simmons, and Arn Anderson (acting as manager) competed against the Spirit Squad at Survivor Series. Rhodes, along with the other legends, was eliminated early on in the match before Flair managed to become the sole survivor. [9]

A few weeks before WWE's 2007 broadcast of the Great American Bash, Dusty Rhodes returned to WWE television to feud with Randy Orton.[10][11][12] At The Great American Bash, Randy Orton defeated Rhodes in a Texas Bullrope match after Rhodes was nailed in the head with the cowbell.[13] The following night on Raw, after Randy Orton defeated Rhodes' son Cody Rhodes, Orton delivered a vicious kick to his head while "The American Dream" was trying to tend to his son.[14]

On December 10 2007, on the Raw 15th Anniversary special episode, Rhodes was at ringside to see Cody and Hardcore Holly defeat Lance Cade and Trevor Murdoch for the World Tag Team Championship, and congratulated the two on their victory afterwards.[15]

In wrestling

  • Nicknames
    • "The American Dream"
    • "Dirty" Dusty Rhodes
    • Midnight Rider
    • "The Bull of the Woods"

Championships and accomplishments

  • International Wrestling Alliance (Australia)
    • IWA World Tag Team Championship (1 time) - with Dick Murdoch[30]

1This Mid-Atlantic promotion operates out of the same region as the original and has revived some of the championships that it once used. However, it is not to be confused with the promotion that was once owned by Jim Crockett, Jr. and sold to Ted Turner in 1988. That promotion went on to be renamed World Championship Wrestling.

Personal life

Rhodes is divorced from his first wife Sandra and is now married to a woman named Michelle. He has two sons, Dustin and Cody, both of whom are also professional wrestlers.

Media

  • Books
    • Autobiography: Dusty: Reflections of an American Dream 2005 ISBN 1-58261-907-7
  • DVDs
    • The American Dream: The Dusty Rhodes Story 2006 (World Wrestling Entertainment)

See also

References

  1. ^ a b c "Dusty Rhodes' biography".
  2. ^ a b Home > Superstars > Hall of Fame > Dusty Rhodes > Bio
  3. ^ a b c Reynolds, R.D. (2004). Wrestlecrap and Figure Four Weekly Present...The Death of WCW. ECW Press. pp. 33–34. ISBN 1550226614. {{cite book}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help)
  4. ^ Rhodes, Dusty (2005). Dusty: Reflections of an American Dream. pp. 127–128. ISBN 1582619077. {{cite book}}: Text "Sports Publishing LLC" ignored (help)
  5. ^ "WWE.com Dusty Rhodes Bio".
  6. ^ Perkins, Brad. "On The Rhodes Again - wrestler Dusty Rhodes - Interview". Wrestling Digest.
  7. ^ "A Stunning Homecoming".
  8. ^ "Rhodes finds peace of mind".
  9. ^ Noah Starr (2006-11-26). "Legendary survivor". WWE. Retrieved 2008-01-12.
  10. ^ Andrew Rote (2007-07-02). "A matter of time". WWE. Retrieved 2007-12-31.
  11. ^ Lennie DiFino (2007-07-09). "Bulldozed in the Bayou". WWE. Retrieved 2007-12-31.
  12. ^ Corey Clayton (2007-07-16). "Orton's audacity further fuels Rhodes' anger". WWE. Retrieved 2007-12-31.
  13. ^ Louie Dee (2007-07-22). "A Great American Nightmare". WWE. Retrieved 2007-12-31.
  14. ^ Corey Clayton (2007-07-23). "One bad apple leads to Dominator destruction". WWE. Retrieved 2007-12-31.
  15. ^ Corey Clayton (2007-12-10). "Rhodes and Holly golden on Raw's 15th Anniversary". WWE. Retrieved 2007-12-31.
  16. ^ "N.W.A. Central States Heavyweight Title". Wrestling Titles. Retrieved 2008-01-06.
  17. ^ NWA North American Tag Team Title (Central States version) history At wrestling-titles.com
  18. ^ NWA Bahamas Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  19. ^ "N.W.A. Florida Brass Knuckles Title". Wrestling Titles. Retrieved 2008-01-06.
  20. ^ NWA Global Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  21. ^ Florida Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  22. ^ NWA Southern Heavyweight Title (Florida) history At wrestling-titles.com
  23. ^ Florida Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  24. ^ NWA Florida Television Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  25. ^ NWA United States Tag Team Title (Florida version) history At wrestling-titles.com
  26. ^ NWA World Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  27. ^ NWA Georgia Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  28. ^ NWA National Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  29. ^ NWA World Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  30. ^ IWA World Tag Team Title (Australia) history At wrestling-titles.com
  31. ^ NWA Mid-Atlantic Television Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  32. ^ NWA/WCW United States Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  33. ^ NWA World Heavyweight Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  34. ^ NWA World 6-Man Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  35. ^ NWA World Tag Team Title (Mid-Atlantic/WCW) At wrestling-titles.com
  36. ^ NWA/WCW World Television Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  37. ^ WCW Hall of Fame history At wrestling-titles.com
  38. ^ NWA American Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  39. ^ "N.W.A. Texas Brass Knuckles Title". Wrestling Titles. Retrieved 2008-01-06.
  40. ^ NWA World Tag Team Title (Detroit) history At wrestling-titles.com
  41. ^ NWA Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  42. ^ NWA North American Heavyweight Title (Hawaii version) history At wrestling-titles.com
  43. ^ NWA United States Heavyweight Title (San Fancisco) history At wrestling-titles.com
  44. ^ North American Hevayweight Title (Mid-South) history At wrestling-titles.com
  45. ^ NWA United States Tag Team Title (Tri-State version) history At wrestling-titles.com
  46. ^ NWF World Tag Team Title history At wrestling-titles.com
  47. ^ WWF/WWE Hall of Fame history At wrestling-titles.com

External links

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