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Bethany it the last living descendant of [[Jesus]] and she must stop two fallen angels, Bartleby ([[Ben Affleck]]) and Loki ([[Matt Damon]]), from getting back into heaven, through a church in New Jersey which has decided to reinvent Catholicism by introducing [[Buddy Christ]]. If the two were two succeed it would cause the destruction of all life. She is told that there will be two prophets that will help her, and she mistakes them for Jay and Silent Bob. |
Bethany it the last living descendant of [[Jesus]] and she must stop two fallen angels, Bartleby ([[Ben Affleck]]) and Loki ([[Matt Damon]]), from getting back into heaven, through a church in New Jersey which has decided to reinvent Catholicism by introducing [[Buddy Christ]]. If the two were two succeed it would cause the destruction of all life. She is told that there will be two prophets that will help her, and she mistakes them for Jay and Silent Bob. |
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Bethany then makes the mistake to lets Jay drive her car. Later the car breaks down after Jay blows out the transmition, because he can’t drive a stick shift. They then meet |
Bethany then makes the mistake to lets Jay drive her car. Later the car breaks down after Jay blows out the transmition, because he can’t drive a stick shift. They then meet Rufus ([[Chris Rock]]), the thirteenth [[apostle]], who was left out of the [[Bible]] because he was black and Serendipity ([[Salma Hayek]]), a [[muse]] turned stripper. |
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Once they make their way to the church to find that Bartleby and Loki have cut off their wings and have become mortal. There Bartleby kills Loki so he can enter by himself. [[God]] ([[Alanis Morissette]]) then arrives and Bartleby pleas for her forgiveness, she kills him and then gives Bethany the gift of life by impregnating her. |
Once they make their way to the church to find that Bartleby and Loki have cut off their wings and have become mortal. There Bartleby kills Loki so he can enter by himself. [[God]] ([[Alanis Morissette]]) then arrives and Bartleby pleas for her forgiveness, she kills him and then gives Bethany the gift of life by impregnating her. |
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Revision as of 22:37, 24 July 2006
Jay and Silent Bob (Jason Mewes and Kevin Smith) are the two fictional characters in the View Askewniverse created by director Kevin Smith, who appear in all of his movies except for “Jersey Girl”.
They are a couple of drug dealers who seem to be trapped in an 80's time warp. Jay is obsessed with washed-up heavy metal bands, both are fixated on John Hughes' teenage comedy/drama movies as well as the film Purple Rain (and its featured act Morris Day and The Time), and, astoundingly, neither had any knowledge of the existence of the Internet until 2001.
Origins
Born in Leonardo, New Jersey, in the late 70s, Jay and Silent Bob met when they were infants in front of the Quick Stop while their mothers went inside the store.
Before Jay’s mother entered the store, she was criticized for her way of parenting. A man walking by asked who was watching these kids. Jay’s mother responded, “Uh- the fat one’s watching the little one.” He said, “Oh yeah, nice parenting. Leave 'em out here like that and see what happens.” Then Jay’s mother said, “YO, FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING SQUARE!”
Soon after Jay’s mother enters the store, Jay inherited his mother’s use of profanity and said, “Fuck!”
Clerks
(See “Clerks” main article)
By the events of “Clerks” Jay and Silent Bob became drug dealers, dealing in front of the Quick Stop. Occasionally they would enter the store to buy cigarettes and snack foods from Dante (Brian O'Halloran) and Randal (Jeff Anderson).
Near the end Silent Bob says to Dante (In regards to Dante’s trouble with his girlfriend), “You know there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude, but they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of them just cheat on you."
Clerks: The Animated Series
See “Clerks: The Animated Series” main article)
“Clerks the Animated Series” continues Jay and Silent Bob’s adventures in front of the Quick Stop with Dante and Randal. During this time, Jay and Silent Bob sold illegal fireworks instead of drugs.
Mallrats
(See “Mallrats” main article)
The day before the events of “Clerks” They started dealing in the local mall and Silent Bob saw “ The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. Throughout the movie, he tried to use the Force to light his cigarette.
There they are contacted by Brodie Bruce (Jason Lee) to sabotage a local game show which is being filmed live at the mall. Jay and Silent Bob had already located the blue prints of the stage and found a weakness which will cause the stage to collapse. “Just like the Death Star!” Jay adds in reference to the destruction of the Death Star in Star Wars.
They make several attempts, but fail. At one point, Silent Bob donned a hat with similar bat like ears, as on the Batman costume. He tied himself to a rope and swooped down trying to reach the stage, but overshot his target and found himself over the head of, La Fours (Sven-Ole Thorsen), the feared security guard of the mall.
After the duo found themselves running from La Fours and several other security guards. The two reached a dead end. Silent Bob then pulled out a grappling gun (Similar to the one used by Batman). Jay hugged Bob tightly after saying things like "Yeah! Badass, YEAH!". The two shot up into the air and the guard ran by them totally oblivious. Jay then Kissed Bob on the cheek and said, “Where do you get those wonderful toys?”
After they had failed as destroying the stage Brodie had a plan of sabotaging the show and winning back his girlfriend. It involved Silent Bob to override the video input and play a pornographic tape involving 15 year old, Tricia Jones (Renée Humphrey) and Brodie’s arch nemesis, Shannon Hamilton (Ben Affleck). Who was dating Brodie’s ex girlfriend, Rene Mosier (Shannen Doherty).
Silent Bob was chosen for the job by Jay, who claims that Silent Bob won the eighth grade science fair by turning his mom’s vibrator into a C.D. player using chicken-wire.
As Silent Bob hung upside down above the stage, Jay received the tape containing the pornographic video. Jay then dropped the video down to Silent Bob who failed to catch it and the video wedged itself in one the rafters. Bob tried to reach for it, but it was out of his reach. He then tried using the Force.
At the same time, William Black (Ethan Suplee), who became angry after he had failed for seven days to see the sailboat in the hidden picture, started banging against one of the support beams of the stage. His banging caused the video tape to free itself and it flew into Silent Bob’s hand. Silent Bob who believed he used the Force to retrieve the tape was astonished and placed the tape into the VCR and pressed play.
The tape began to play and Shannon Hamilton was arrested for having sex with a minor. At the end Brodie reconciled with Rene and Jay asked Silent Bob how he retrieved the tape. Silent Bob shrugs. Jay responds, “The Jedi mind trick! Holy shit, motherfucker, Yoda and shit!" Silent Bob says, "Adventure? Excitement? A Jedi craves not these things." A surprised Jay says, “Holy shit, you spoke!” Bob simply responds, “I just never had anything good to say before.”
Chasing Amy
(See “Chasing Amy” main article)
In Chasing Amy, they meet comic book artist, Holden McNeil (Ben Affleck) and inker, Banky Edwards (Jason Lee). The two then create a comic book series based on Jay and Silent Bob’s likeness called, “Bluntman and Chronic”.
It’s the story of how Bluntman (AKA: Silent Bob) wins the lottery and with Chronic (AKA: Jay) they use the money to buy gadgets and build the Bluntcave underneath the Quick Stop. The two make costumes and they become the crime fighting superheroes, Bluntman and Chronic!
During the events of “Chasing Amy”, Holden falls in love with fellow comic book artist, Alyssa Jones (Joey Lauren Adams), who reveals to him that she is a lesbian. Holden falls apart and then seeks help from Jay and Silent Bob. Silent Bob then tells Holden the story of his former girlfriend, Amy.
Silent Bob and Amy were going steady for a few months, when he asked about her former boyfriend. She tells him about how they dated for a few years, lived together and how a couple of times they had other people over to sleep with them. Silent Bob doesn’t know how to react because he was raised catholic. He becomes angry and flips out on her.
Later he realizes that there was nothing wrong with Amy, it was him and by the time he realized, it was too late. So ever since he had been chasing Amy. Holden is then inspired and writes a comic book titled, “Chasing Amy”, which he later gives to Alyssa.
Chasing Dogma
(See “Chasing Dogma” main article)
In between the events of “Chasing Amy” and “Dogma”, Jay and Silent Bob decide to go to be the "blunt connection" in Shermer, Illinois (where most of Hughes' movies are set) because they believe that all the guys there are jerks and that there would be girls crawling all over them. So they make it all the way to Chicago to find out that Shermer, Illinois doesn’t exist.
Dogma
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(See “Dogma” main article)
After their disappointing adventure to the fictional Shermer, Illinois, they decide to go back home to New Jersey. Before they leave they meet Bethany (Linda Fiorentino) an abortion clinic worker.
Bethany it the last living descendant of Jesus and she must stop two fallen angels, Bartleby (Ben Affleck) and Loki (Matt Damon), from getting back into heaven, through a church in New Jersey which has decided to reinvent Catholicism by introducing Buddy Christ. If the two were two succeed it would cause the destruction of all life. She is told that there will be two prophets that will help her, and she mistakes them for Jay and Silent Bob.
Bethany then makes the mistake to lets Jay drive her car. Later the car breaks down after Jay blows out the transmition, because he can’t drive a stick shift. They then meet Rufus (Chris Rock), the thirteenth apostle, who was left out of the Bible because he was black and Serendipity (Salma Hayek), a muse turned stripper.
Once they make their way to the church to find that Bartleby and Loki have cut off their wings and have become mortal. There Bartleby kills Loki so he can enter by himself. God (Alanis Morissette) then arrives and Bartleby pleas for her forgiveness, she kills him and then gives Bethany the gift of life by impregnating her.
God then has any of Jay and Silent Bob’s memories of their experience removed from their minds.
Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
(See “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back” main article)
Soon after they make their way back to the Quick Stop to continue to deal, Randal gets a restraining order against them and they’re not allowed to be within one hundred feet of the store.
So they pay a visit to Brodie, who now owns a comic books store called, The Secret Stash, where they learn that Miramax Films is making a, Bluntman and Chronic movie. Brodie tells them they should go see Holden and ask for their movie check, since the characters of Bluntman and Chronic are based in their likeness.
From their they find out Holden has sold all of his right to Bluntman and Chronic to Banky. To learn more about the movie, Holden introduces them to the internet, which nether even knew existed. Holden then shows them a movies blog called, Movie Poop Shoot, where a numerous of people have bashed the movie and called Jay and Silent Bob a number of names and insults. They take offence to this and decide they’re going to go to Hollywood and stop the movie from being made.
After being kicked off the bus for not having a ticket, the duo decides to hitchhike there. After countless misadventures, while at a Mooby’s restaurant they meet, Justice (Shannon Elizabeth), a international jewel theft. Jay immediately fantasizes about having sexual relations with her. While Jay is caught in a day dream, Silent Bob notices Jay’s large erection and places a Mooby’s cup over it.
She offers them a ride in her van. There they meet Justice’s partners, Chrissy, Missy and Sissy. (Ali Larter, Jennifer Schwalbach Smith, Eliza Dushku) They tell them that they belong to an animal rights group. They then use Jay and Silent Bob to steal a monkey from an animal testing facility, as a diversion for when they break into the Colorado Diamond Exchange.
Once inside the animal tasting faculty Jay and Silent Bob find a tranquilizer gun and the monkey, but Silent Bob fells sympathy for the other animals. So they let all of the animals loose.
Missy, Chrissy, Sissy and Justice escape with the diamonds and place a bomb on the van. Once outside, Jay witnesses the van explode. He assumes that Justice is now dead. The authorities show up and they escape.
Following Federal Wildlife Marshall Willenholly (Will Ferrell) arrives and takes over the case. They track Jay, Silent Bob and the monkey, to a small diner. They surround the building and there’s nowhere to escape to. Jay then has the idea to dress the orangutan up in clothes.
They walk out the doors and Jay explains that they are gay lovers and they’re taking there son out to eat. Jay goes on further explains how he had sex with a woman and got a woman pregnant and how Silent Bob loves the cock. There Willenholly completely oblivious, lets them go. After the walk away he realizes his mistake.
He chases them down a sewer pipe. They run to the very end where there is a drop off into the Hoover Dam. Willenholly corners them, but then the orangutan grabs their hands and jumps off. Willenholly soon follows and jumps off into the water. He then looks up to see Jay and Silent Bob hanging off the ledge with monkey.
After they reach the top of the dam, the monkey gets in a car with a sign on the back that read, “Critters of Hollywood” They chased after the car while it drove away, but eventually gave up. Jay was completely oblivious to where the monkey was going. Silent Bob tried to use hand guesters to explain the sign, but Jay still didn’t understand. Finally Silent Bob flipped and yelled, “THE SIGN, ON THE BACK OF THE CAR, SAID 'CRITTERS OF HOLLYWOOD', YOU DUMB FUCK!”
They hitchhike a ride to Hollywood. There they evade a security guard and make their way through multiple movie sets, including, “Good Will Hunting 2: Hunting Season” and “Scream 4”.
While on the set of “Scream 4” they witness the filming of a scene where Shannen Doherty is attacked by the mysterious killer, she hits him of the back of the head and knocks him unconscious. She then removes the mask to find Jay and Silent Bob’s monkey. Immediately they run onto the set and grab the monkey.
Soon they are followed by a group of security guards in a golf cart. They get on a bicyclical and ramp it. They fly in the air, passing a billboard for a fictional Ben Affleck movie, with a giant moon on it, referencing E.T.
They come crashing through a window and they meet James Van Der Beek (Dawson of Dawson's Creek and Jason Biggs (The pie fucker in American Pie), who play Jay and Silent Bob in the Bluntman and Chronic movie.
After learning this, they beat up Van Der Beek and Biggs and set the monkey loose into the ventilation ducts with the tranquilizer gun. They get into the Bluntman and Chronic outfits and make their way to the Bluntcave set.
Once on the set they are mistaken for Van Der Beek and Biggs. Filming begins. Then their arch nemesis, Cockknocker played by Mark Hamill enters the Bluntcave. Jay then asks why do they call him Cockknocker? He responds by punching Jay in the crotch with his oversized fist.
After Cockknocker activates, what seems to be a lightsaber. Silent Bob reaches out his hand and uses to force to grab a Bluntsaber. The two engage in battle, until Silent Bob is knocked out. Soon Jay returns with a double bladed Bluntsaber and cuts off Cockknocker’s oversized hand. In reference to Star Wars, Mark Hamill who played Luke Skywalker says, “Not Again.”
Soon after the director yells, “Cut!” Justice enters the set and she confesses to Jay that see is and international jewel theft. Jay doesn’t seem to care and they kiss. Then Willenholly runs in with a shotgun, soon followed by Missy, Chrissy and Sissy. Justice and Sissy get into a fight, While Missy and Chrissy get into a gun fight with, Willenholly.
During this all Jay and Silent Bob find Banky Edwards and demand a movie check. Silent Bob tells him, “We had a deal with you, on the comics remember, for likeness rights, and as we're not only the artistic basis, but also obviously the character basis, for your intellectual property, Bluntman and Chronic, when said property was optioned by Miramax Films, you were legally obliged to secure our permission to transfer the concept to another medium. As you failed to do that, Banky, you are in breach of the original contract, ergo you find yourself in a very actionable position."
Banky agrees to give them half of what ever he makes off the movie. After the fight is over, Willenholly stand up believing he killed them, only to be shot with a tranquilizer in the buttocks by the monkey. He immediately believe that he is paralyzed. Justice assures him that he’s not paralyzed and make him and offer that would get him into the FBI She offers to turn herself in along with Missy, Sissy and Chrissy as long as she got a reduced sentence and the charges against Jay and Silent Bob were dropped. He agrees and Justice tells Jay to wait for her.
Banky approaches them and tells them that their now rich and they have their own monkey. Jay then has the idea of buying airplane tickets with the money and beat up all the people who insulted them on the internet.
After the were done beating everyone up, The Bluntman and Chronic movie premiered. It was a huge flop and was even compared to Mallrats. After the premier, Jay and Silent bob put on a huge after party with the entertainment of Morris Day and The Time.
Clerks 2
(See “Clerks 2” main article)
After the events of, “Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back”, Jay and Silent Bob, buy a car (presumably an automatic) and are arrested for driving on the boardwalk. There the authorities find a stash of marijuana and they are sentenced to six months or rehab.
Once out of rehab, they remained clean, but still continue to deal. Once when they were asked what kept them from getting high and Silent Bob held out a copy of the "Holy Fucking Bible."
Since the Quick Stop was destroyed in a fire, they followed Dante and Randal to Mooby’s. Once there they kept up their usual antics. They would moon people inside of the restaurant and at one point, Jay recreated the infamous “Silence of the Lambs”, Buffalo Bill dance scene.
Near the end of the movie, when they are in jail with Randal and Dante, for watching “Interspecies Erotica” (bestiality), Randal has the idea to reopen the Quick Stop with Dante, but neither of them had the money. So Jay and Silent Bob offered them the money needed to reopen the store, but under two circumstances. They are allowed to stand in front of the store when ever they want to and Randal must perform oral sex on Dante. Silent Bob looks at Jay and shakes his head. Immediately Jay changes his mind as to not look homosexual.
After the Quick Stop was reopened, Jay and Silent Bob returned to right back where they started so many years ago.
Sexuality
The Kevin Smith movies (particularly Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back) play on the question of both characters' sexuality, mostly Jay's, even though Jay himself insists in Dogma that the two are "hetero life-mates." Both have had relationships with women at one time or another, such as Jay's relationship with Shannon Elizabeth's character Justice in J&SBSB and Bob's mention of a relationship with Amy in Chasing Amy.
The suspicion that Jay is a repressed bisexual is supported by dialogue in all of the first four View Askewniverse films.
Also, in issue #2 of the presumably canonical Chasing Dogma comic series, Jay launches into a lengthy and thoroughly impassioned impromptu speech on gay rights and tolerance from a clearly personal perspective before noticing Silent Bob's astonished expression and brushing the matter off rather unconvincingly. Despite the large number of Jay's aspersions to the contrary, it is generally assumed, however, that Silent Bob is indeed heterosexual.
As hinted at in one of the Q&A sessions on the An Evening with Kevin Smith DVD, some of Smith's fans are disappointed, upset and/or confused over the apparent contradiction that Jay appears to be proven conclusively to be a heterosexual in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, as he spends much of the film in love with the jewel-thief Justice (Shannon Elizabeth) and ends up "getting the girl" in a way which suggests he feels no inner conflict despite his previously-indicated sexuality. One explanation is that this is just Jay's ever-deeper denial of his true sexual orientation (although nothing in the film truly suggests this), another is that the character is in fact happily bisexual, although perhaps is still not self-aware on this matter.
In Clerks II, Jay and Silent Bob are standing near a wall at the Mooby’s store that both Dante and Randal now work for after the Quick-Stop burned down with the wall scrawled with the words "Eat Pussy". When Dante's fiancée comes to confront both Jay and Silent Bob, although she never asks both men anything, Jay replies by saying "Oh, we totally do". Whether this is Jay continuing to deny his sexuality or not is debatable.
Clerks II also shows that although Jay and Silent Bob are not into "Interspecies Erotica" (bestiality), both men find it amusing to watch.
Silent Bob Hidden History
When filming Dogma, actor Ben Affleck, during the third take of the train fight, shouted "Schüler Bob!" (schüler meaning schoolboy in German). When told that there was no real reason to keep it in the movie (it was an inside joke between Smith and Affleck), Ben Affleck created a reason for it.
Throughout time, Affleck's character, Bartleby, had been thwarted in his evil plots by the same mysterious warrior, whom he never got to see. When he is finally ready to kill the Last Scion, his enemy-through-time grabs him, stopping him once more and revealing himself to be Silent Bob. Finally seeing his enemy's true face, he calls out his name in the angelic tongue (which Affleck decided was a butchered German): Schüler Bob.
This makes no sense, however, because Bartleby had been completely pacifist up until that point in the movie.
Affleck would also state on the DVD of Dogma that Silent Bob was really a Germanic spirit.
Etymology of Jay's Vocabulary
Jay's mannerisms and phrases have always been a bit of a mystery. He says things like "snoochie-boochies," and "nugga-nooch." These evolved from things he said when he was around the 13-16 age group. In An Evening with Kevin Smith the origin and development of Jay's original colloquialisms are revealed as being something like this:
- He started with "neh," such as "I'm gonna fuck your mom, neh."
- He then progressed to "nootch," making his suffix a little longer.
- Then, "snootch," adding a letter.
- He added to that to create "snoochie-boochies," adding a lot of length.
- Then he went crazy with things such as "snigi-nigi-nooch," being a lot longer than "neh," by the way.
- He ended up shortening it to "snoogans," in order to encompass all previous forms of the word.
Originally, the phrase conveyed a passive/apologetic air of "just kidding, don't kick my ass" (e.g. "Maybe I'll go fuck your mom, Neh"), but it is now most commonly used as a celebratory exclamation (e.g. "Snootch to the Nootch!"). As he and Silent Bob jump into a fight with the hockey playing demon-teens from Dogma he exclaims, "Snootch to the mothafuckin' nooootch!" The phrases are also often used to establish that he has just made a joke at someone's expense that he is very proud of, such as in "Chasing Amy," when he says "Look at this mother-fucker right here. Smells like someone shit in his cereal. Snooch."
It should also be noted his use of the word "Bong", which is used as an affirmative or exclamation of happiness. In Dogma, after finding out that Beth, the female lead, would have sex with him if they had five minutes left to live he remarks "She's a slut, bong." It has also been extended to a longer form: "bonnnnng". This version of the word is used extensively in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back, in places where previously he would have used some form of "snoogans."
At one point in the film "Clerks II," in the scene in the jail cell, Jay can be heard saying "neh," which was the origin word of Jay's snoogans.
Also, Jay often uses the terms "snooch", "pooch", and "nooch", and other variations of those words within Clerks: The Animated Series, such as when he greets his fellow Little League teammates with "Snoochie poochie little noochies". In another episode we see an animated older version of Jay writing in his computer journal (just before leaving with his "granddaughter"): "Snooch to the nooch".
Appearances
- Clerks (First Appearance)
- Mallrats
- Chasing Amy
- Dogma
- Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back
- Clerks 2
- Clerks: The Animated Series
- Clerks: Sell Out (Production begins 2007)
- "Can't Even Tell" by Soul Asylum
- "Build Me Up Buttercup" by the Goops
- "Because I Got High" by Afroman
- "Kick Some Ass" by Stroke 9
- ”Sunshine" by Rubber
- Scream 3 (Cameo Appearance)
- VH1’s I Love the 90s (Guys we go gay for)
- Degrassi: The Next Generation