Forbidden (album)

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Forbidden
Black Sabbath studio album

Publication
(s)

June 8, 1995

admission

1994-1995

Label (s) IRS Records

Format (s)

LP, CD

Genre (s)

Heavy metal

Title (number)

10/11 (Japan version)

running time

42:00

occupation

production

Ernie C

Studio (s)

Parr Street Studios, Liverpool , Devonshire Studios, Los Angeles

chronology
Cross Purposes
(1994)
Forbidden 13
(2013)

Forbidden is the 18th studio album by the British heavy metal band Black Sabbath . It was released in June 1995.

Origin and style

For Forbidden , Black Sabbath got back together in the TYR line-up. In addition to Tony Martin, Neil Murray and Cozy Powell returned to Tony Iommi. The band worked in Liverpool and Los Angeles with producer Ernie C from Body Count , who would breathe new life into the band's sound.

In an interview published in February 2019 with the music magazine "Classic Rock", Tony Iommi revealed that someone from the record company IRS supposedly persuaded him to work with Ice-T. The guitarist had to ask who he was. Both musicians met. Iommi notes that Ice-T is a nice guy and a big Black Sabbath fan. So the collaboration on "Forbidden" came about, that the body count guitarist Ernie C took over the mix for "Forbidden", which Iommi admitted as a big mistake. Not only was the sound washed out as a result. Ernie C tried to convince Cozy Powell to add more hip-hop parts to his game.

On the first track of the album, The Illusion of Power , rapper and body count frontman Ice-T can be heard in the bridge . The subdued to negative reactions to the album are said to have been a reason why Tony Iommi put the efforts with this line-up on hold and a little later to reunite Black Sabbath with Ozzy Osbourne , Bill Ward and Geezer Butler Black Sabbath in the original line-up. According to Tony Martin, a reunion of the original members was already in preparation for the recordings of "Forbidden".

reception

Chart positions
Explanation of the data
Albums
Forbidden
  DE 35 06/26/1995 (9 weeks)
  AT 40 07/16/1995 (1 week)
  CH 48 07/02/1995 (1 week)
  UK 71 06/17/1995 (1 week)

The German metal magazine Rock Hard ruled in their 1995 issue 98 that "Forbidden" was a good Sabbath album. Already here the band was certified as having a solid songwriting and that the band's rougher sound would look good because " Cross Purposes " would have sounded too clean to the reviewer . "Forbidden" would, however, easily fall away from the reminiscence work of the Martin era "Headless Cross". The album received 8 out of 10 points.

Allmusic's Bradley Torreano wrote that it was difficult to name the worst Black Sabbath album, but this could be it. Forbidden shows "boring songs, a terrible production and uninspired performances by the musicians". He awarded one and a half stars out of five.

Other magazines and online platforms rate "Forbidden" much more mildly. Metal.de designated u. a. 2010 "Forbidden" as a weak album, but wrongly underestimated. The washed-out sound would not be detrimental to the album, it would even enhance it. The previous "Cross Purposes" sounded more sterile in contrast to "Forbidden". The album is a "decent" and "typical" album for the Tony Martin era. The good songwriting and the good technical condition of the band would be worth highlighting. Metal.de awards 6 out of 10 points.

Remix

How u. a. The German heavy metal music magazine "Rock Hard" reported on its online platform on December 31, 2018, that band leader and main songwriter Tony Iommi wants to remix "Forbidden". The newly remastered version will be released in the course of 2019. Iommi sees the main reason for this step in the sound, as he announced on December 29, 2018 in a video message on the social media platform " Facebook ". It says that in 2019 the "Forbidden" album will be re-released, which the sound engineer and recording producer Mike Exeter (including Tony Iommi , Black Sabbath , Heaven And Hell , Jeff Beck , Girlschool , Cradle Of Filth , Judas Priest and WhoCares) and Iommi reshuffled at the moment at the time of the video message. "It was," continues Iommi, "interesting to tear everything apart and at least try to get a better sound out, as it should be. I know that Cozy ( Cozy Powell , former drummer for Rainbow , Black Sabbath, Gary Moore ua) was never happy with his drum sound, and neither of us were really happy with the sound of the album. So hopefully it will sound better now. "

As early as 2015 rumors surfaced that Iommi wanted to re-release "Forbidden". Even then he emphasized how unhappy he was with the sound.

Singer Tony Martin also said in 2011 to the online magazine of the electric guitar dealer Gibson in an interview that was no longer to be found but quoted on " Blabbermouth " that he had called "Forbidden" "crap", which was actually not the case. The online magazine "Loudwire" also roughly reproduces the wording of the interview. In the rehearsals, according to him, all the songs worked perfectly. But he got wind of a looming reunion with Ozzy Osbourne , which should have changed everything. Suddenly it was said (probably on the part of management and Iommi) that the album should be a fusion of hip-hop and hard rock. Tony Martin and Cozy Powell reiterated their doubts that this move would work in a round table discussion in the Sabbath management's London offices. Martin was also left in the dark during the recording, how big his vocal part would be in the album and how much rapper Ice-T got involved with the vocals. Martin points out in the interview that he would have had a bad feeling about the matter.

Tony Iommi becomes clearer in an interview posted on the Ultimate Guitar page in February 2019. Producer Ernie C even left Tony Iommi in the dark about what the final version of the album would sound like. It was also Ernie C who let Ice-T rap on the song "Illusion Of Power", but didn't inform the band about it. Tony Iommi thinks that while Ernie C did a good job during this period, he lost track of what Black Sabbath should sound like. The main problems are drum and guitar sound on the album. When asked that Tony Iommi was planning to sift through the Tony Martin era completely and rearrange it, the guitarist said no. Only "Forbidden" would have irritated any critic.

Iommi and Martin are currently holding back as information when the remixed album will be released in 2019.

Track list

All pieces were composed by the band and text provided by Tony Martin , unless otherwise stated.

  1. The Illusion of Power (Martin, Iommi, Murray, Powell, Nicholls, Ice-T ) - 4:51
  2. Get a Grip - 3:58
  3. Can't Get Close Enough - 4:27
  4. Shaking Off the Chains - 4:02
  5. I Won't Cry for You - 4:47
  6. Guilty as Hell - 3:27
  7. Sick and Tired - 3:29
  8. Rusty Angels - 5:00 am
  9. Forbidden - 3:47
  10. Kiss of Death - 6:06
Bonus title
  1. Loser Gets It All - 2:55 (bonus track of the Japanese version)

Individual evidence

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  2. Dave Ling2019-02-19T10: 42: 31Z Classic Rock: Tony Iommi: the gospel according to The Dark Lord. Accessed March 31, 2019 .
  3. Jon Wiederhorn: 23 Years Ago: Black Sabbath Release 'Forbidden'. Accessed March 31, 2019 .
  4. Sources of chart placements:
  5. BLACK SABBATH - Forbidden. Retrieved March 30, 2019 .
  6. ^ Black Sabbath - Forbidden Review • metal.de. Retrieved March 30, 2019 .
  7. BLACK SABBATH: Tony Iommi mixes "Forbidden" album for re-release. Retrieved March 30, 2019 .
  8. Tony Iommi. Retrieved March 30, 2019 .
  9. David Numberger: Black Sabbath: Tony Iommi plans a remix of FORBIDDEN. In: Classic Rock Magazin. June 17, 2015, accessed on March 30, 2019 (German).
  10. Blabbermouth: TONY IOMMI Has Begun Remixing BLACK SABBATH's 'Forbidden' Album For 2019 Release. December 30, 2018, accessed March 30, 2019 .
  11. Jon Wiederhorn: 23 Years Ago: Black Sabbath Release 'Forbidden'. Retrieved March 30, 2019 .
  12. Tony Iommi: This Is What Was Wrong With Black Sabbath's Forbidden & Why We're Now Remixing It. Retrieved March 31, 2019 .