List of football matches between Holstein Kiel and Hamburger SV
In the list of football matches between Holstein Kiel and Hamburger SV , all matches between the men's teams of the two north German football clubs Holstein Kiel and Hamburger SV are listed. Most of the 124 matches ( as of 2020 ) were played during the joint seasons from 1918 to 1963 (a total of 104 games). From 1963 to 2018, due to the class difference, both clubs mostly met either in friendly matches or in the DFB Cup .
The total balance of all games after 124 encounters is: 26 Holstein wins, 20 draws, 78 HSV successes (as of 2020) . The first meeting took place on October 15, 1919 in Kiel.
description
The cities of Kiel and Hamburg are separated by a distance of around 97 kilometers. Just like the games between SV Werder Bremen and HSV, between FC St. Pauli and VfB Lübeck or between Werder and VfL Wolfsburg , games between Holstein Kiel and Hamburger SV are considered a north derby .
backgrounds
The games between Kieler SV Holstein and HSV are one of the most important games on the Kiel side. This is illustrated by the record number of spectators in the Holstein Stadium , which is still valid today . On March 23, 1951, 30,000 spectators made the pilgrimage to the Nordderby (then / outdated also called Nordmarkschlager ) and saw a 3: 3 (1: 2).
Although there is no significant mutual rivalry due to the class difference between KSV Holstein and HSV from 1963 to 2018, a game against HSV is highly valued by fans and connoisseurs of Holstein Kiel. Right from the start, the game was considered the top game in North German football in the interwar period . This is proven by the fact that both teams shared all North German titles (championship and cup) from 1921 to 1933 (HSV 11 titles, KSV 6 titles). In the post-war period , HSV prevailed more and more and the paths of both clubs parted with the foundation of the Bundesliga in 1963. Hamburger SV played in the 1st Bundesliga from 1963 until relegation in 2018, while Holstein Kiel commuted between the second and fourth leagues .
Games between the two clubs took place almost exclusively in friendly matches in the period that followed; In the 2007/08 season , both clubs met in the first round of the DFB Cup when Holstein Kiel, who was relegated from the regional league at the time, received the HSV UEFA Cup participants in the Holstein Stadium. The game won by the guests around Rafael van der Vaart 5-0. The 2018/19 season saw league games between the first teams of both clubs for the first time since professional football was introduced in Germany. The first encounter on August 3, 2018 in front of the record Derby crowd of 57,000 spectators in Hamburg 's Volksparkstadion ended with a 3-0 away win for Holstein Kiel. This was synonymous with Kiel's first competitive win against Hamburg since the 1961/62 season. At the end of the 2018/19 season, HSV missed their return to the Bundesliga as fourth in the table, so that there were again two clashes between the Hamburgers and Holstein Kiel in the 2019/20 season. Both the first leg in Kiel and the second leg in Hamburg ended in a draw (1: 1 and 3: 3).
The friendship between the fans of HSV and VfB Lübeck , whose arch rival Holstein Kiel is, there is a rivalry between Holstein Kiel and Hamburger SV.
Legend
Notes on using the individual tables
- Season : Indicates the season of the game
- Competition : Name the competition in which both teams met.
- Mating : The first named team has home rights.
- Result : Name the outcome of the game from the perspective of the home team. The numbers in brackets indicate the half-time result; "NV" means "after extension".
- Winner : Shows which team emerged victorious from the match using the club's emblem. Open fields indicate a tie.
- Spectators : Indicates the officially declared number of spectators (if known).
Overview of the games
Games in the North German finals from 1919 to 1933
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
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1920/21 | Northern District Championship | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 1 | ? | |
1920/21 | Northern District Championship | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 1 | ? | |
1921/22 | North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 2 | ? | |
1922/23 | Final North German final | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 2-0 | ? | |
1923/24 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 6: 1 | ? | |
1924/25 | Winner relay North German finals | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 1 | ? | |
1925/26 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1: 1 | 16,000 | |
1926/27 | Winner relay North German finals | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1-0 | ? | |
1927/28 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 2: 1 | ? | |
1928/29 | Round of Ten | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 5: 1 | ? | |
1928/29 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 1 | ? | |
1928/29 | North German final round | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 4 | ? | |
1929/30 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1: 1 | ? | |
1930/31 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 4: 2 | ? | |
1931/32 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 8: 1 | ? | |
1932/33 | Winner relay North German finals | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3-0 | ? |
Games in the Gauliga Nordmark from 1933 to 1942
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1933/34 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 6: 2 | 6,000 | |
1933/34 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1: 3 | ? | |
1934/35 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 4 | ? | |
1934/35 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 2: 1 | ? | |
1935/36 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3: 6 | ? | |
1935/36 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 6: 1 | ? | |
1936/37 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3-0 | 8,000 | |
1936/37 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1-0 | ? | |
1937/38 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 4 | ? | |
1937/38 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 4: 1 | ? | |
1938/39 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3: 3 | ? | |
1938/39 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 3 | ? | |
1940/41 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 3 | ? | |
1940/41 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 8: 1 | ? | |
1941/42 | Gauliga Nordmark | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 3 | ? | |
1941/42 | Gauliga Nordmark | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 4: 3 | ? |
Games in the first-class Oberliga Nord from 1947 to 1963
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
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1947/48 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 0: 7 | 15,000 | |
1947/48 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 5-0 | 20,000 | |
1949/50 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 2 | 12,000 | |
1949/50 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 4: 2 | 18,000 | |
1950/51 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 4: 1 | 8,000 | |
1950/51 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3: 3 | 30,000 | |
1951/52 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 0: 4 | 25,000 | |
1951/52 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 4: 1 | 12,000 | |
1952/53 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 0: 5 | 18,000 | |
1952/53 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3: 1 | 28,000 | |
1953/54 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 3 | 10,000 | |
1953/54 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 8: 1 | 10,000 | |
1954/55 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 6: 2 | 12,000 | |
1954/55 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 4 | 16,000 | |
1955/56 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 0: 1 | 22,000 | |
1955/56 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1: 2 | 9,000 | |
1956/57 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 5-0 | 25,000 | |
1956/57 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 0: 2 | 27,000 | |
1957/58 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2-0 | 20,000 | |
1957/58 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1-0 | 14,000 | |
1958/59 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 2: 1 | 16,000 | |
1958/59 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3: 4 | 16,000 | |
1959/60 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 2 | 21,000 | |
1959/60 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 10: 2 | 12,000 | |
1960/61 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1-0 | 10,000 | |
1960/61 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1-0 | 6,000 | |
1961/62 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 6 | 22,000 | |
1961/62 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 1: 2 | 7,000 | |
1962/63 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 2 | 14,000 | |
1962/63 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 1 | 17,000 |
Games in the 2nd Bundesliga since 1974
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2018/19 | 2. Bundesliga soccer | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 0: 3 | 57,000 | |
2018/19 | 2. Bundesliga soccer | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 3: 1 | 10,073 | |
2019/20 | 2. Bundesliga soccer | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 1: 1 | 15,034 | |
2019/20 | 2. Bundesliga soccer | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 3 | 0 |
Games in the Tschammerpokal / DFB-Pokal since 1935
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1941 | 1st main round in the Tschammerpokal | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 2: 1 | 6,000 | |
2007/08 | 1st round in the DFB Cup | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 0: 5 | 11,386 |
Played in the NFV Cup from 1924 to 1927 and 1952 to 1973
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
1926 | Final NFV Cup | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 1 | ? | |
1954 | Final NFV Cup | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 2 | 12,000 | |
1955 | Quarter finals NFV Cup | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 8: 2 | 12,000 | |
1956 | Final NFV Cup | Hamburger SV: Holstein Kiel | 3: 1 | 12,000 |
Friendlies since 1919
More encounters
Holstein Kiel - Hamburger SV II
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
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1964/65 | 1st round NFV Cup | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1: 2 | 750 | |
1989/90 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 2: 2 | 785 | |
1989/90 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 1: 1 | 800 | |
1990/91 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 0-0 | 1,000 | |
1990/91 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1-0 | 356 | |
1991/92 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 1: 1 | 450 | |
1991/92 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1-0 | 132 | |
1992/93 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 3: 1 | 802 | |
1992/93 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1: 2 | 567 | |
1993/94 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 2: 1 | 249 | |
1993/94 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 4: 1 | 265 | |
1994/95 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 2-0 | 558 | |
1994/95 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV | 4-0 | 262 | |
1995/96 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 3-0 | 311 | |
1995/96 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 2: 2 | 250 | |
1998/99 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1: 1 | 370 | |
1998/99 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 2: 1 | 1,362 | |
1999/00 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1-0 | 400 | |
1999/00 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 2: 3 | 1,024 | |
2000/01 | Oberliga Nord | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 1: 1 | ? | |
2000/01 | Oberliga Nord | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 0: 3 | ? | |
2002/03 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 0: 3 | 500 | |
2002/03 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 1: 1 | 2,800 | |
2003/04 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1: 1 | 500 | |
2003/04 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 2-0 | 1,800 | |
2004/05 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 0: 2 | 4,000 | |
2004/05 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1: 1 | 600 | |
2005/06 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 3-0 | 1,700 | |
2005/06 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 2-0 | 4,400 | |
2006/07 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 0-0 | 900 | |
2006/07 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 1-0 | 4,600 | |
2008/09 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 2: 1 | 2,500 | |
2008/09 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 0: 2 | 1,100 | |
2010/11 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 1: 2 | 1,100 | |
2010/11 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 0-0 | 1,900 | |
2011/12 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 0: 1 | 800 | |
2011/12 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 3: 1 | 3,900 | |
2012/13 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel: Hamburger SV II | 6: 1 | 3,500 | |
2012/13 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel | 0-0 | 1,400 |
Holstein Kiel II - Hamburger SV II
season | competition | pairing | Result | winner | spectator |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
2018/19 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel II: Hamburger SV II | 3: 2 | 609 | |
2018/19 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel II | 2-0 | 160 | |
2019/20 | Regionalliga North | Hamburger SV II: Holstein Kiel II | 6-0 | 300 | |
2019/20 | Regionalliga North | Holstein Kiel II: Hamburger SV II | 1-0 | 132 |
Balance sheet
competition | Games | KSV wins | draw | HSV victories | Goals of the KSV | HSV goals |
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North German Football Championship (1906-33) | 16 | 1 | 4th | 11 | 17th | 47 |
Gauliga Nordmark (as Liga I 1933-42) | 16 | 3 | 2 | 11 | 35 | 54 |
Oberliga Nord (as Liga I 1947-63) | 30th | 6th | 2 | 22nd | 41 | 95 |
2nd Bundesliga (since 1974) | 4th | 2 | 2 | 0 | 10 | 5 |
Tschammer Cup (1935-43) | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 1 |
DFB Cup (since 1952) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 5 |
NFV Cup (1924-27 & 1952-73) | 4th | 0 | 0 | 4th | 6th | 17th |
Friendlies since 1919 | 52 | 13 | 10 | 29 | 103 | 150 |
total | 124 | 26th | 20th | 78 | 214 | 374 |
total | 122 | 26th | 20th | 76 | ? | ? |
total | 121 | 25th | 20th | 76 | ? | ? |
total | 120 | 24 | 20th | 76 | ? | ? |
Status: winter 2019
swell
- Patrick Nawe, Norman Nawe, Raymond Madsen, Hardy Grüne, Christian Jessen, Christian Callsen: 100 years - Holstein Kiel. Sport Verlag Berlin ISBN 3-328-00891-8
- Statistics on the divisions of the North German Football Association on the DSFS homepage
- fussball-historie.de
- Jens R. Prüß ( Memento from July 19, 2011 in the Internet Archive )
- fussballdaten.de
Individual evidence
- ^ German Football Association (ed.): St. Pauli is coming: Nordderby in Lübeck. In: DFB. July 31, 2016, accessed April 30, 2019 .
- ↑ Axel Springer SE (Ed.): Fans whistle - Werder are embarrassed against Wolfsburg. In: The world. April 20, 2013, accessed April 30, 2019 .
- ^ Zeitungsverlag Hamburg GmbH (ed.): Thick air at Holstein Kiel before the north derby. In: Hamburger Abendblatt. December 17, 2018, accessed April 30, 2019 .
- ↑ At that time, the Holstein Stadium had a larger capacity, which is why it is “probably the all-time attendance record”; Capacities (annual figures without guarantee): 1950–1977 30,000 places, 1977–1990s: 22,000 places, 1990s-2000: 8,000 places, 2000–2006: 13,500 places, 2006–2015: 11,386 places, 2015–2017: 10,200 places, 2017: 12,000 places, 2018: 10,700 places, 2019: 15,034
- ↑ 100 years of Holstein Kiel. P. 224
- ↑ Holstein-Kiel.de: Good Friday 1951 - an everlasting attendance record
- ↑ 100 years of Holstein Kiel. Pp. 74 and 75
- ↑ MoPo.de: Insider report HSV threatens a riot season , June 5, 2018, accessed on October 28, 2018
- ↑ Due to the course of the 2019/20 season , the game took place without spectators
- ↑ First meeting of both clubs. Source: Holstein Kiel against HSV: Knalleffekte and viewer records KN-Online from July 31, 2018. This first game is not listed in the 100 Years of Holstein Kiel Chronicle
- ↑ According to 100 Years of Holstein Kiel p. 225, this game is a competitive game, but since both clubs did not meet in the league, German championship or cup in 1942/43, this encounter is listed here under friendly games
- ↑ According to 100 years of Holstein Kiel p. 225 this game is a cup game, but since it is not mentioned which cup it is, this encounter is listed here under friendly games. These encounters are likely to be games during the British Zone Championship
- ↑ According to 100 Years of Holstein Kiel p. 225, this game is a competitive game, but since both clubs did not meet in the league, German championship or cup in 1945/46, this encounter is listed here under friendly games. These encounters are likely to be games during the British Zone Championship
- ↑ According to 100 years of Holstein Kiel p. 225 this game is a cup game, but since it is not mentioned which cup it is, this encounter is listed here under friendly games. These encounters are likely to be games during the British Zone Championship
- ↑ According to 100 years of Holstein Kiel p. 225, this game is a cup game, but since Holstein Kiel was excluded from the game in the 1948/49 season and it is not mentioned which cup it is, this match is here under friendly games listed
- ↑ According to 100 years of Holstein Kiel p. 225, this game is a cup game, but since Holstein Kiel was excluded from the game in the 1948/49 season and it is not mentioned which cup it is, this match is here under friendly games listed
- ↑ According to 100 years of Holstein Kiel p. 225, this game is a cup game, which cup is not mentioned. On p. 108 there is talk of a friendly game
- ↑ Note: According to the 100 year chronicle and holstein-kiel.de anniversary game 100 years German championship, HSV visiting the Holstein Stadium ( memento from December 30, 2013 in the Internet Archive ) the number of Holstein victories is 21, but this is wrong, because a 3-2 win from 1945/46 was incorrectly calculated as a defeat in the overall standings. The correct total number of wins at the time would have been 22.
- ↑ Note: According to the 100 year chronicle and holstein-kiel.de jubilee game 100 years German championship, HSV visits the Holstein Stadium ( memento from December 30, 2013 in the Internet Archive ), the number of draws is 17 at the time, after 1 : 1 on July 14, 2012 in the anniversary game, the correct total number of draws at that time is 18.
- ↑ Note: According to the 100 year chronicle and holstein-kiel.de anniversary game 100 years German championship, HSV as a guest in the Holstein Stadium ( memento from December 30, 2013 in the Internet Archive ), the number of Hamburg victories is 76, but this is wrong, because a 2: 3 defeat from 1945 was wrongly calculated as a victory in the overall standings. The correct total number of wins at the time would have been 75.
- ↑ Note: At the time of December 18, 2018, sportbuzzer.de speaks of 118 games between Holstein Kiel and Hamburger SV: The numbers of the top game for the start of the second half of the season KN-Online on December 18, 2018
- ↑ Note: Other sources such as the Holstein Kiel homepage speak of 117 games at the time of December 18, 2018. A bang after 20,278 days at holstein-kiel.de on August 1, 2018
- ↑ Note: Other sources such as the Kieler Nachrichten or the Holstein Kiel homepage speak of 115 games as of July 31, 2018. Holstein Kiel against HSV: Knalleffekte and viewer records KN-Online from July 31, 2018; 20,278 days are waiting for the north derby holstein-kiel.de on August 1, 2018