Suicide Silence (album)

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Suicide Silence
Studio album by Suicide Silence

Publication
(s)

February 24, 2017

admission

2016

Label (s) Nuclear Blast

Format (s)

CD, MP3 download, vinyl

Genre (s)

Nu metal

Title (number)

9

running time

44:13

occupation

production

Ross Robinson

chronology
The Sacred Words (2015) Suicide Silence -
Single releases
January 6, 2017 Doris
2nd February 2017 Silence

Suicide Silence is the fifth studio album of the same name by the US metal band Suicide Silence , which was released worldwide via Nuclear Blast on February 24, 2017 .

The album, which has a total of nine tracks and a total length of 44 minutes and 13 seconds, was produced by Ross Robinson . With the release of the album named after the band, the musicians made a radical musical upheaval away from deathcore towards the sound of nu metal of the early 1990s, for which the band, both from the trade press and from their own fan base and other deathcore bands. Scene - most of which was criticized by Thy Art Is Murder .

As a result of the reviews, Suicide Silence, despite marketing, was largely poorly discussed and sold poorly. With almost 4,700 units sold within the first week of sales, the group recorded the worst value of their band career in the United States , so that the musicians reached their lowest chart rating in the US album charts . In Germany , the work landed at number 98 and thus wafer-thin in the charts.

History of origin

Plans for a new album were announced at the end of October 2015. It was said that the musicians plan to start working on a successor to You Can't Stop Me , published in 2014, sometime in 2016 . At the end of March, the music of the with producer Ross Robinson , who has already produced albums for Sepultura , Korn , Slipknot and Limp Bizkit , began recording their album. Dino Cazares from Fear Factory worked as co-producer , while Joey Barresi , who already worked for Kyuss , Tool , Queens of the Stone Age and the Melvins , was responsible for mixing .

On December 28, 2016, the track list, album title, record cover and the official release date were announced.

According to an interview that guitarist Mark Heylmun gave with TheMetalTris , he said that the musicians went into the studio completely haphazardly.

“We should just make music the way we wanted to make it. And why do you have these comparisons with other bands at all? With this album we weren't looking for a specific sound. We had no idea what exactly we wanted. We just went into the studio, jammed together, and wrote music. And whatever is created is created. "

- Interview with Mark Heylmun

Track list

# title composer length Remarks
1. Doris 4:28 • Music video
2. Silence 4:40
3. Lists 5:32
4th Dying in a red room 4:45 • Music video
5. Hold me up, hold me down 5:18
6th run 4:25
7th The Zero 4:53
8th. Conformity 5:53
9. Don't Be Careful, You Might Hurt Yourself 4:20

Music genre

On December 17, 2016, singer Eddie Hermida announced that the album would be completely different from the previous work of the band. A lot will change, especially in the singing. He said that the album will have a lot of clear vocals. Hermida justified this with the fact that the musicians want to try something different outside of their musical spectrum. The musicians wanted to keep their harsh sound while looking for their love for music. He describes how the end product surprised him:

"We decided as a band to do something way outside the spectrum of what Suicide Silence has done in past. We wanted to maintain a heavy sound while exploring our love of music, and what came out surprised us 100 percent [...] "

- Eddie Hermida to the Alternative Press

“We decided to do something outside the spectrum of what Suicide Silence has done in the past. We wanted to keep the hard sound while exploring our love for music, and the end product surprised us one hundred percent [...] "

- free translation

Meanwhile, Mark Heylmun stated in another interview that the band wanted to try not to sound like other bands. He said that forming a band - in his experience - is done to create a sound that is similar to the groups that you find good together. In the case of Suicide Silence, Heylmun named bands like Korn , Cannibal Corpse , Decapitated, and Slipknot . The guitarist explained that the decision to try something completely new was due to the fact that the musicians decided to find their own sound because it was felt that it was not good to sound similar to other bands. This has come to light through listening to the old musical material in recent years.

“When you start a band, it usually works like this: - and I'm only speaking from my own experience - you talk about which bands you like and then you want to create a sound that sounds like these bands. I remember Slipknot, Decapitated, Cannibal Corpse and Korn: those were all bands that we named when we started playing together. But over the years we would listen to our music again and then we realized that we shouldn't try to sound like other bands. We should only make music the way we wanted to make it. "

- Interview with Mark Heylmun

The musicians tried in the past to experiment with other styles of music, such as Nu Metal . For example, The Black Crown was released in 2011 with Korn singer Jonathan Davis . After the surprising death of their then singer Mitch Lucker , Suicide Silence largely returned to their deathcore roots with the release of their predecessor You Can't Stop Me .

Bassist Dan Kelly and drummer Alex Lopez announced ahead of its release that the album would represent a complete musical upheaval. They said that the album would have a lot of clear vocals, which is already new musical territory for the band. About the use of clear vocals, both explained that singer Hermida was ready for the first time to be able to work with clean vocals. They announced that the album would have a lot of vocal passages, lots of screaming and melody . The album represents a largely musical departure from Deathcore towards a mixture of Nu Metal and Alternative Metal , which is comparable to Korn and Deftones .

canditature

On January 6, 2017, the first single was released with Doris, including a music video. This is a 360 ° video . On the day the album was officially released, another music video was officially released, this time for Dying in a Red Room . Doris , like the second single, Silence, aroused particularly negative feedback from the fan scene and the press.

The group completed a club tour of the west coast of the United States between February 19 and March 4, 2017, from the week before the album was released until a week after . This was accompanied by Plague Vendor and the former Disfiguring-the-Goddess musician Cameron Argon . A European tour with Caliban announced for December 2016 has been partially postponed to March 2017. This only affected the five concerts in the UK . Immediately afterwards, Suicide Silence played again in the UK, this time with Deez Nuts and Venom Prison in the support act. In the summer Suicide Silence completed several festival appearances, including at Rock am Ring and Rock im Park .

In November and December 2017, Suicide Silence will be playing an extensive North American tour to celebrate the album The Cleansing, released in 2007. Winds of Plague will support the last six concerts on this tour .

Disputes

With the fans

Ever since the announcement that the musicians would break with their musical roots on the album named after the band and want to use clear vocals for the first time, criticism from the fan base was loud for the first time. This intensified a lot after the release of the first single Doris . Especially in the social networks as well as on the video platform Youtube , the piece received extremely negative comments and feedback - which was mainly reflected in the relationship between likes and dislikes. Producer described the hatred of the work as "awesome", as this reaction shows that they have done a good job. The web video producer Jared Dines , well-known in the US metal scene , also got involved in the dispute between the fans and the band.

The second single Silence was also received extremely negatively by the band's fans, which is shown, among other things, by the fact that the video on Youtube received twice as “Dislikes” as “Likes”. The dispute went so far that fans started a petition on the Change.org platform to prevent the album from being released. This was signed by more than 5,000 dissatisfied fans of the band. Drummer Alex Lopez began insulting fans of the band on Facebook , which made the dispute bigger. The postings that have since been removed from Facebook can still be found in the Reddit chat room .

Singer Eddie Hermida reacted with incomprehension to the massive criticism, but did not attack fans personally. In an interview, he said that most of the fans do not give the album the opportunity to influence and develop. The singer said that there was a part of the fan scene who approached the band's new work with curiosity, but most of the fans avoided the album out of fear. He said that there are also fans who could change their minds if they saw the material live for the first time. However, Hermida emphasized that Suicide Silence was not created for the fans, but for the musicians. Previously, Hermida said in another interview with Alternative Press that he was grateful for any mention of the band, whether on a positive or negative basis. He justified the statement by saying that he had hit a nerve and done his job as a musician. Meanwhile, in a conversation with British Rock Sound , Hermida declared the music industry as good as dead, which is what he made about musicians and the higher-ups putting too much emphasis on what other people say on the Internet.

Chart positions
Explanation of the data
Albums
Suicide Silence
  DE 98 03.03.2017 (1 week)
  US 163 03/18/2017 (1 week)

A week after the album was released, it was announced that the album had only sold 4,600 times in the United States and thus 70 percent less than its predecessor You Can't Stop Me - which sold 15,000 units in 2014 - within the first week of sales at number 163 in the local album charts, which is the lowest number in the national charts. The negative effects were also noticeable in Germany; The album was only able to get into the best list in 98th place and therefore only just barely.

With Thy Art Is Murder

As a result of the dispute with their own fan scene, which even started a petition to prevent the album from being released, singer Eddie Hermida countered the criticism and attacked the Australian deathcore band Thy Art Is Murder . According to Hermida, "Deathcore can remain a center of power when other bands do what you [Suicide Silence] are doing." He sees deathcore as a dying genre, as most do not believe in the chances of survival in this genre. The singer is of the opinion that with the release of their songs Doris and Silence he has shown the will and accuses the Australian band of burying deathcore with their scam.

"If all the bands succumb to what Thy Art Is Murder are doing and say, 'Oh yeah, we're going to save Deathcore' and therefore write the same song that was on the last album, then the genre will die."

- Interview with Eddie Hermida

With his attack, Hermida alluded to the return of singer Chris "CJ" McMahon to Thy Art Is Murder, who also released a new single that was too "safe" for Hermida.

Guitarist Mark Heylmun explained in an interview with Musicology that singer Hermida did not attack the musicians of Thy Art Is Murder personally, but took the band as a general example of what is currently going wrong in deathcore. The clinch only came about after a disappointed Suicide Silence fan called the Australian colleagues' attention to the interview. Accordingly, the fan concerned contacted Andy Marsh, who then spoke to singer Eddie Hermida, while Shaun Delander approached Heylmun. CJ entered the discussion himself. According to Heylmun, however, there would be no real argument between the two bands.

Thy Art Is Murder used the attention for self-promotion and offered a cap that read "Make Deathcore Great Again", a reference to Trump's election slogan " Make America Great Again " . The scene media saw Thy Art Is Murder in the new position as the "savior of deathcore" through the dispute. Thy Art Is Murder was able to gain the favor of the deathcore scene through her position towards Suicide Silence . With both bands in the United States under contract to the same record company, Nuclear Blast , this dispute is viewed as a marketing ploy for both bands, with the question of whether this will be reflected in sales.

Press reviews

English language reviews

Suicide Silence received mostly negative reviews in the English-language trade press . The most devastating criticism came from Joe Smith-Engelhardt, who wrote for the Canadian music magazine Exclaim! writes, and gave the album the lowest rating, justifying this with the fact that Suicide Silence was "a garbage band that plays sloppy covers of Korn and Deftones over a microphone from the dump." The British rock sound also criticized the musical change of the band and found that the musicians "have thrown away what once made them great". The Metal Hammer agreed with this opinion and described the decision to switch to a different musical genre as "confusing."

One of the few critics who could abgewinnen the album was something, Axl Rosenberg, the album marked as a "crazy metal art", comparable to the controversial albums Lulu and St. Anger by Metallica . While the critic makes the claim that "Suicide has never sounded really mentally shattered", he also concluded that he was not sure whether "Suicide Silence is a great album" but a "good album" anyway. He wrote that "it takes a lot of eggs to produce such an album."

German-language reviews

As in the English-speaking professional circles, Suicide Silence also received mostly negative reviews in the German-speaking media. The album received the worst rating from Manuel Berger , a reviewer at Laut.de , who panned the entire album and production. The album is "a patchwork in which the individual elements repel one another over long stretches." He wonders how the album survived the run from production to promotion. Berger also asks how a producer like Ross Robinson is able to create such a "garbage can sound" even though he has produced two masterpieces with Roots from Sepultura and Iowa from Slipknot . He sums up that the album could receive a Golden Raspberry for worst production if the award were given in the music industry. Nadine Schmitt from Metal.de writes that the musical change away from deathcore was worth it for a moment. However, singer Eddie Hermida should definitely practice, as his voice is weak and the brave move with his live performance either stands or falls. In the final sentence, the critic states, "that no band should be accused of requesting spectrum expansion."

Sebastian Kessler from the German edition of Metal Hammer doesn't see Hermida's singing, which he personally thinks is “okay”, as the album's only problem, but it is the easiest. Robinson’s production makes the sound appear “alive” and “spontaneous” through feedback and background noises. However, the group flaws a clear line in their mix of post-hardcore , grunge and new metal . Due to the existing gloom, the intricacy and the intoxication, it is difficult for the listener to take on the titles, even if one can discover exciting things from time to time. The album is an "ambitious step out of the Metalcore monotony, which offers little listening pleasure, but fascinates in its uncompromising rawness."

Individual evidence

  1. Blabbermouth.net : SUICIDE SILENCE Is Ready To Start Work On New Album
  2. Blabbermouth.net : SUICIDE SILENCE Taps Producer ROSS ROBINSON For Next Album
  3. Greg Kennelty: Metal Injection : SUICIDE SILENCE Are Officially In The Studio With Ross Robinson
  4. Blabbermouth.net : SUICIDE SILENCE Frontman Says It Was 'A Delight' Working With Producer ROSS ROBINSON On New Album
  5. Graham Hartmann: Loudwire : Suicide Silence Reveal Release Date, Track Listing + Album Art For Self-Titled Album
  6. ^ A b c d Nico Heister: Metal Hammer : Suicide Silence went haphazardly into the studio
  7. a b Lindy Smith: Alternative Press : Suicide Silence reveal new album will be mostly clean vocals
  8. Robert Pasbani: Metalinjection : "SUICIDE SILENCE Confirm New Album Will Be 70% Clean Vocals"
  9. a b Graham Hartmann: Loudwire : "Suicide Silence Producer Ross Robinson on 'Doris' Backlash"
  10. Rober Pasbani: Metalinjection : "SUICIDE SILENCE Post New Song," Doris, "And Yes, There Is Clean Singing (In The Chorus)"
  11. Axl Rosenberg: Metalsucks : "Listen to Suicide Silence's New Single," Doris ""
  12. Joe DiVita: Loudwire : Suicide Silence Release 360 ​​Degree 'Doris' Music Video, Add New Elements to Sound
  13. Alexandra Michels: Rock Hard : Suicide Silence: 'Dying In A Red Room' video released
  14. Joe DiVita: Loudwire : Suicide Silence Announce Intimate US Listening Party Tour
  15. Christina O'Neill: Metal Hammer (UK): Suicide Silence reschedule UK tour
  16. Dark Lord: Stormbringer.at : DEEZ NUTS: post video clip for the new song "Discord"!
  17. Graham Hartmann: Loudwire : Suicide Silence Announce 'The Cleansing' 10th Anniversary Tour Dates
  18. Axl Rosenberg: Metalsucks : VIDEO: JARED DINES REVIEWS ADDRESSES SUICIDE SILENCE CLEAN VOCALS CONTROVERSY IN “DORIS” REVIEW
  19. David Graham: Loudwire : Suicide Silence Release Dynamic Track 'Silence,' Fan Backlash Intensifies
  20. Joe DiVita: Loudwire : "Petition Launched to Prevent New Suicide Silence Album"
  21. Greg Kennelty: Metal Injection : SUICIDE SILENCE Responds Directly To Mean Comments Over New Song "Doris"
  22. Zanae Zukowski: Metalinsider.net : Suicide Silence's new direction on single Proves polarizing, to say the least,
  23. Blabbermouth.net : SUICIDE SILENCE Frontman On Fans' Reaction To New Album: 'They're Not Letting The Music Soak In'
  24. Jordan Toney: Alternative Press : Suicide Silence stream highly-debated new album, debut music video
  25. Rock Sound : Suicide Silence's Eddie Hermida: "The Record Industry Is Dying"
  26. Chart sources: DE - US
  27. a b Eike Cramer: Metal Hammer : Suicide Silence: New album sells 70% less than YOU CAN'T STOP ME
  28. a b c Tillmann Rohlf: Metal Hammer : Suicide Silence: Eddie Hermida attacks Thy Art Is Murder
  29. James Maddern: Musicology.uk.com : Interview: Suicide Silence
  30. Robert Pasbani: Metalinjection : THY ART IS MURDER Clap Back At SUICIDE SILENCE Frontman's Backdoor Diss
  31. Joe Smith-Engelhardt: Exclaim! : Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence review
  32. Rob Sayce: Rock Sound : Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence review
  33. Stephen Hill: Metal Hammer (UK): Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence review
  34. Axl Rosenberg: MetalSucks : Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence review
  35. Manuel Berger: Laut.de : Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence criticism
  36. Nadine Schmitt: Metal.de : Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence criticism
  37. Sebastian Kessler: Metal Hammer : Suicide Silence - Suicide Silence review