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2nd-century BC fortified gate at Horvat 'Eqed

... that excavations at Horvat 'Eqed (pictured) uncovered coinage and hiding complexes dating from the Bar Kokhba revolt, as well as arrowheads, armor scales, slingshots, and ballistae?
... that Spider began making alternative music because she felt that not enough Black women were doing so?
... that the trowel and gavel used at the cornerstone-laying ceremony for the Southern Railway Building were previously used by George Washington for the U.S. Capitol?
... that Gherardo Gambelli, the incoming archbishop of Florence, served as a prison chaplain in Chad for over a decade?
... that the Centurion C-RAM can fire 4500 rounds per minute?
... that Indonesian politician Rahmad Mas'ud received his master's degree simultaneously with four of his siblings?
... that all Atlantic hurricane activity in 1993 ceased two full months before the season officially ended?
... that Chuck Eisenmann went from professionally pitching in baseball to owning and training the dogs that starred on the Canadian television series The Littlest Hobo?
... that Richard Garwin proposed using a bed of nails to protect the Minuteman missile silos from attack?

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on July 20

...that New Zealand has only lost four Test matches at Carisbrook stadium in over one hundred years? (self-nom) - Shudde ^talk 13:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...that Samuel Johnson bragged that he could recite an entire chapter of Niels Horrebow's Natural History of Iceland? (self-nom) Zagalejo^^^ 08:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...that the wards in Plymouth will have a new constituency in the nest general election? (self-nominated) bsrboy (talk) 12:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 19

...that after winning the 2002 Alaska gubernatorial election, Frank Murkowski appointed his daughter Lisa Murkowski to serve the rest of his term in the US Senate? Self nom Davewild (talk) 10:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Muphry’s law on proofreading and editing was described by John Bangsund in 1992?
- or ... that Muphry’s law states that "if you write anything criticizing editing or proofreading, there will be a fault of some kind in what you have written"? - article created 16 July by User:DoorFrame and expanded by me. PamD (talk) 09:24, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Benjamin Franklin's letter "Advice to a Friend on Choosing a Mistress" was cited in a 1973 United States Supreme Court opinion by justice William O. Douglas? --Durova^Charge! 07:41, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Rev. William Plenderleath's book Memoranda of Cherhill was first published ninety-five years after the author's death? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 03:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a word square found in Mamucium, a Roman fort in Manchester, may be one of the earliest examples of Christianity in Britain? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Nev1 (talk) 00:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Rachel Dratch appeared in the 30 Rock episode "The Aftermath" as Maria the maid because she was originally cast to play Jenna Maroney in the series, but she was replaced by Jane Krakowski? article mainly written by Cornucopia -- Jamie jca (talk) 21:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This does make sense, I'm accepting it. Lampman (talk) 02:39, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the buildings with the sign Silver Dew Winery described by Pat Conroy in his autobiographical book The Water is Wide were once part of the Bloody Point Range Lights on Daufuskie Island, South Carolina? new, self nomination KudzuVine (talk) 19:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that an obelisk at Mamhead (pictured) was built in the 1740s for "the safety of such as might use to sail out of the Port of Exon or any others who might be driven on the coast"? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 19:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the debtors' prisons in Accomac (pictured), Worsham, and Tappahannock, Virginia have all survived to the present day? (Triple self-nom, took them out of userspace today) --19:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

That last one, in Tappahannock, could use some expansion, so I'm going to try and beef it up a little bit before this can go live. --User:AlbertHerring ^{Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!} 19:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the pharmacy of former Welsh rugby union player Willie Llewellyn was saved from rioters during the Tonypandy Riot because of his past services to his country?FruitMonkey (talk) 17:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Humphrey de Bohun, Earl of Hereford was allegedly killed by a spear through the anus at the Battle of Boroughbridge (battle field pictured) in 1322? -- self-nom, 5-fold expansion -- Lampman (talk) 16:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Peter Lorillard was the first to be called a "millionaire"? new article, self nom by --Doug ^talk 14:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious - the word goes back to 1826 according to Oxford English Dictionary. PamD (talk) 10:52, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to this reference On his death in 1843 one newspaper coined the word "millionaire" - which had never been used.
According to this reference The term "millionaire" was not coined until he died in 1843. At the time, an obituary writer, plagued by a deadline, minted the phrase and it passed into the language.
According to this reference The word "millionaire" in fact was coined only in 1843, when, upon the death of Peter Lorillard (snuff, banking, real estate) the newspapers needed a term to denote great affluence.
According to this reference The word "milionaire", in fact, was coined only in 1843, when upon the death of Peter Lorillard (snuff, banking, real estate) the newspapers needed a term to denote great affluence.
According to this reference Thus, when Pierre Lorillard, a New York snuff maker, banker, and landholder, died in 1843, his fortune of $1,000,000 or so, was considered so unusual that the word "millionaire", newly-coined, was initialized in the rounds of the press.
According to this reference The word "millionaire" was coined in 1843 by a newspaper reporter in an obituary of Pierre Lorillard, banker, landlord, and tobacconist.
According to this reference The word "millionaire" was first used. The term was included in a French newspaper obituary for Pierre Lorillard, a wealthy businessman who made his fortune selling tobacco and snuff.
According to Wecter, Dixon, The Saga of American Society: A Record of Social Aspiration, 1607-1937, page 113: ... death of Pierre Lorillard, snuff- and cigar-maker, the newspapers coined the word millionaire to denote such affluence.
According to this reference At the death of Pierre IV's grandfather in 1843, the term "millionaire" was first coined for his obituary.

--Doug ^talk 12:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But according to the Oxford English Dictionary (I'm accessing it online through my local public library's subscription, but it's available in print too), their first two cited usages are: "1816 BYRON Let. 23 June (1976) V. 80 He is still worth at least 50-000 pds{em}being what is called here [sc. Evian] a ‘Millionaire’ that is in Francs & such Lilliputian coinage. 1826 B. DISRAELI Vivian Grey I. ix, Were I the son of a Millionaire, or a noble, I might have all." I believe OED, though someone may well have independently re-invented the word across the other side of the big pond. PamD (talk) 13:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

None of those sources say anything about "re-inventing" or the "re-use" of the word - they all say "first usage" and "first coined" or "minted the phrase" - and that it was first used in a French obituary. --Doug ^talk 13:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Amateur Station Operator's Certificate exam needs to be given to get an amateur radio licence in India? =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Reinhard von Werneck gave Munich's Englischer Garten much of its current form by almost doubling its area and by creating a new lake, the Kleinhesseloher See? – new article, self nom N p holmes (talk) 11:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the sinking of the SS Königin Luise was the first German naval loss of the First World War? - new article, self nom Benea (talk) 09:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Blade of the Immortal manga authored by Hiroaki Samura was adapted into an anime series by Bee Train, Production I.G and Pony Canyon? (self-nom) Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 08:25, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article has 840 characters. (tables, templates, lists, etc. are not counted) Thingg^⊕^⊗ 16:26, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expanded the article. Sephiroth BCR ^(Converse) 20:12, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that terrorist organization Hezbollah abducted three IDF soldiers in October 2000, whose bodies, together with Israeli businessman Elchanan Tenenbaum, were exchanged in a 2004 prisoner swap? --Lsdjfhkjsb (talk) 06:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Viktor Nogin, Mayor of Moscow during the Bolshevik Revolution, was the reason the Russian city of Bogodorosk changed its name to Noginsk after his death? (expanded, self-nom) Truthanado (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are some interesting choices, so here are some other possibilities:

(ALT hook) ... that Viktor Nogin, Mayor of Moscow during the Bolshevik Revolution, tried to limit bloodshed by trying to build a coalition government of all socialist organizations? (expanded, self-nom) Truthanado (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(ALT hook) ... that Viktor Nogin, Mayor of Moscow during the Bolshevik Revolution, is buried in the Kremlin in Red Square, Moscow? (expanded, self-nom) Truthanado (talk) 02:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a grand jury found Arizona Territory's Thieving Thirteenth legislature exceeded a $4000 legal limitation for operating expenses by $46,744.50? -- new article self-nom by --Allen3 ^talk 00:09, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This hook does not seem to have a neutral point of view. « D. Trebbien (talk) 21:38, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please specify what your concern is? The numbers are cited and go back to a U.S. Federal grand jury investigation. As to the nickname, it was already in common use by the end of the 1885 session as shown by Selim M. Franklin's quotation. --Allen3 ^talk 08:28, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that British actor Terence Stamp's younger brother Chris Stamp co-managed and produced The Who from 1964 to 1975? -- new article self-nom by Marchije (talk) 00:32, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the state of emergency, enforced by the enactment of Emergency Powers Act 1939 to help maintain Irish neutrality during World War II, was not rescinded until September 1, 1976? (new article - self nom) ww2censor (talk) 13:11, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is 1295 characters. Templates, tables, quotes, etc. are not counted. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 16:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article text is now 1875 chars. Perhaps you checked it quite a while ago. It has been extended to comply with the minimum length. ww2censor (talk) 16:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, actually the difference is because Thingg specified that "quotes, etc. are not counted", and the 1875 figure includes 2 quotes. The rules don't explicitly exclude such quotes from the definition of prose only, but I think I've seen that exclusion before, so I added the quotes exclusion to my Unwritten Rules. Art LaPella (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, now it really is long enough at 1858 characters, not including quotes, etc., per the guidelines. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 04:35, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...that at The Great American Bash (2005), the Legion of Doom (Road Warrior Animal and Heidenreich) defeated MNM for the WWE Tag Team Championships, to start the eighth longest reign in the title's history? -- iMatthew _T.C. 11:47, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 18

... that the 7.9 M_w Denali Fault earthquake on November 3, 2002 was the strongest shock ever recorded in the interior of Alaska? -- new article by Mikenorton (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 13:09, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that two rebel leaders in the Ituri conflict in DR Congo are charged by the International Criminal Court with war crimes and crimes against humanity over their alleged role in the Bogoro attack in 2003? -- new article by Polemarchus (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) [Can't be too specific in the hook, per WP:BLP. I hope this hook is not too ITN-ish.] 03:23, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

[alternative] ... that when the Congolese village of Bogoro was attacked in 2003, survivors were imprisoned in a room filled with corpses, and women and girls were sexually enslaved? Polemarchus (talk) 12:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a memorial to "Unknown Confederate Dead" at the Fort Smith National Cemetery also commemorates two Confederate Army generals, James M. McIntosh and Alexander E. Steen, even though neither of them were unknown? -- two new articles by 8th Ohio Volunteers (talk · contribs), double-nom. by PFHLai (talk) 03:04, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that 209 people were killed and 41,000 houses were damaged or totally destroyed in the 1970 floods in Romania, with over a million arable acres inundated, and more than 100,000 animals drowned? -- new article by Biruitorul (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 02:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a 73-yard run during the 1949 Rose Bowl by Frank Aschenbrenner of the Northwestern Wildcats was the longest run from scrimmage in Rose Bowl history? -- new article by Madcoverboy (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Crawford-Gilpin House once changed owners due to being lost as ante in a poker game? (self-nom, 5x expansion)--Bedford ^Pray 02:34, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that transwoman actor Judiel Nieva was once sought out as a healer and visionary? -- new article by User:Kguirnela; Nom by Lenticel ^(talk) 13:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that ZSU-37 was the first Soviet series-produced, tracked SPAAG? -- new article by User:Vladimir Historian and MoRsE (talk) 09:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To me, that hook sounds like "Did you know that KFQ-6 was the first EKBJ7K?" Art LaPella (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(rewording.hook)... that ZSU-37 was the first Soviet series-produced, tracked self-propelled anti-aircraft gun? (is this better?) --MoRsE (talk) 07:13, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Sir T. Muthuswamy Iyer KCIE was the first Indian judge of the Madras High Court?-self-nom by -Ravichandar_{My coffee shop} 08:24, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Saifuddin Soz, the current Union Minister of Ministry of Water Resources (India), was expelled from his earlier party JKNC in 1999, when he defied the party whip and voted against the Government headed by Atal Behari Vajpayee to topple that government? (expanded 5 fold by User:Rankoutsider), nominated by --GDibyendu (talk) 07:23, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

261 character hook. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 16:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- (alt hook: 198 characters) ... that Saifuddin Soz, the current Union Minister of Water Resources (India), was expelled from JKNC in 1999, when he voted against the Government headed by Atal Behari Vajpayee defying party whip? --GDibyendu (talk) 06:40, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that wine can be made from items other than grapes, including marijuana (pictured)? (Miscellany ref in lead and also "Other wines" section.) self nom. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 05:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that wine-like beverages have been prepared from a variety of non-grape bases, including marijuana and fish? « D. Trebbien (talk) 21:13, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the voters in St. Helena Parish, Louisiana, where the last three elected sheriffs had been sent to jail, have elected Nat Williams sheriff, their first ever African American sheriff? (Self nom)--..BlackThor^{Talk • Contribs} 00:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and hook's ref verified. Truthanado (talk) 03:02, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Mike Karakas was the first American-born and trained American professional ice hockey goaltender to play in the National Hockey League? – Significantly expanded by User:Maxim, nominated by Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Chirps•Clams•Chowder)} 00:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that after a painted garage door was crashed into and destroyed, the Precita Eyes muralists salvaged it and merged it into a new one, said to be one of their most beautiful in San Francisco, California? significantly expanded on July 18 by myself.^MY♥_INchile 00:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the U.S. Sheep Experiment Station is the second largest employer in Clark County, Idaho? (Self nom) Steven Walling (talk) ^{formerly VanTucky} 22:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good 2 me! Source, length, creation verified. BobAmnertiopsis ∴_ChatMe! 00:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. The source for the hook is primary, but that's okay here. « D. Trebbien (talk) 20:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Miron Merzhanov was a personal architect to Joseph Stalin in 1933–1941? self-nom NVO (talk) 21:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The statement is not followed by an inline citation in the article, which is required as per the #Instructions. Would you add an exact citation to the place in your sources that backs your statement up? Thanks. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 00:05, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Added inlines directly in the paragraph on Stalin's commissions. NVO (talk) 21:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Pseudo-Bonaventura is a name given to the authors of several medieval devotional books once wrongly attributed to Saint Bonaventure? self-nom by Johnbod (talk) 20:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Cherhill White Horse, an English hill figure (pictured), once had a glittering glass eye made of bottles? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 19:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great. « D. Trebbien (talk) 20:49, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Withington Community Hospital was, at its height, the largest teaching hospital in Europe? (5x expansion) - Self nom by Rudget (logs) 18:29, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is good. One thing, though, is that "largest teaching centre for medicine" should be "largest teaching hospital" (addressed here, in the edit summary). « D. Trebbien (talk) 20:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I guess I'd do anything to get that 1500 bytes of info. :) Rudget (logs) 21:28, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Ray Combs, host of Family Feud, was the guest announcer for a "family feud" match at the World Wrestling Federation's Survivor Series (1993) event? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GaryColemanFan (talk) 15:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Jean Mohr has photographed Palestinian refugees for the U.N. and International Red Cross since 1949, yet also published two books on L’Orchestre de la Suisse Romande? --new article self-nom by Bruxism (talk) 08:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that India's Defence Attaché Brigadier Ravi Datt Mehta was killed in the suicide bombing on the Indian Embassy in Kabul and is being considered for the Kirti Chakra? -- created by Hu114sp (talk · contribs) nom by --gppande «talk» 08:10, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that there are approximately 2,000 species of mantis (one pictured) worldwide? - self nom by House of Scandal (talk) 06:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook and date verified, but the length of the article, currently at 1014 characters (excluding lists, infoboxes, references, and such), is not long enough. It must be 1500 characters or over. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 07:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It might be long enough now. I'm not sure how to count characters. - House of Scandal (talk) 19:38, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1941 characters according to prosesize.js. About half of the 1941 is isolated sentences introducing lists. Art LaPella (talk) 21:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you have Microsoft Word, paste the article page's text in it (not the edit text) and go to Tools->Count. Check count (with whitespaces). --gppande «talk» 22:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Try http://allworldphone.com/count-words-characters.htm --74.13.129.166 (talk) 18:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the residents of Tippecanoe, Indiana in 1860 built a new school right next to a preexisting cemetery? (self-nom) 5x expansion.--Bedford ^Pray 05:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This seemed enough of an appalling notion to make for a hook.--Bedford ^Pray 05:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the German-American confectioner Charles F. Gunther claimed to own the remains of the serpent from the Garden of Eden? (self-nom; relevant ref is here) Zagalejo^^^ 07:45, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great « D. Trebbien (talk) 20:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Quatama Station light rail stop in Hillsboro, Oregon, includes a piece of art based on an arrangement created by a Japanese Macaque at the Oregon National Primate Research Center? (self, expansion) Aboutmovies (talk) 13:00, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... tornado activity in the Sun Prairie, Wisconsin area historically is above the Wisconsin state average, and 90% greater than the overall U.S. average? (self-nom) Note: the expansion of this article is slightly under the fivefold expansion rule (it had 5211 characters of prose on July 12 (5 days ago) and now has 22106 characters. A 5x expansion would be to 26055 characters), but hopefully an exception can be allowed. I intend to add more to the article by the end of today and tomorrow that would likely put it over this mark. - Hexhand (talk) 20:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Sun Prairie, Wisconsin is the birthplace of American painter Georgia O'Keeffe? (self-nom) Note: see info immediately above. Hexhand (talk) 20:02, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a recently-discovered marine snail that lives near hydrothermal vents has round its foot armor plates reinforced with iron sulfide made from chemicals emitted by the vents – and it also has the usual type of calcium carbonate shell. The first shelled animals probably made similar use of whatever materials were easily available. (self, expansion of Small shelly fauna) -- Philcha (talk) 10:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... we need a ~200-character long hook in the form of a question, with the link to the DYK article in boldface. --74.13.129.166 (talk) 18:29, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 17

... that Akwamu slaves in the Danish West Indies revolted in 1773, captured the fort in Coral Bay and took control of most of the island of Saint John of the present-day U.S. Virgin Islands? -- new article by FloNight (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 03:37, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 18th century poet, Christopher Smart, spent seven years in mental asylums for madness but he may have really been imprisoned out of revenge or actions resulting from drinking too much? self-nom, citations for this are found here midway through Ottava Rima (talk) 20:59, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in Race Against Time: Searching for Hope in AIDS-Ravaged Africa author Stephen Lewis, the UN Special Envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa, claimed the spread of AIDS across Africa is partly due to a succession of disastrous economic policies promoted by international financial institutions? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by maclean 19:22, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

288 character hook. Art LaPella (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

alt hook ... that in Race Against Time author Stephen Lewis argues the spread of AIDS across Africa is partly the result of disastrous economic policies promoted by international financial institutions? --maclean 23:44, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A couple noms from History of French wine. With the three different angles, I'm not submitting a picture but if a favorite emerges, I can try and find a commons pic to go with that hook.

... that archaeological evidence suggest that the history of French wine began with the Celts, long before the Greeks and Romans settled the area? (Johnson Vintage ref in the Early History section)
... that the English people have had many influences on the history of French wine including popularizing the bubbly style of Champagne? (Oxford ref under the "The English" section of Influences on the French wine industry)
... that early in the history of French wine, lead was used to sweeten and preserve wine? (Phillips ref under "The Dutch" section of Influences on the French wine industry) (self nom) Agne ^Cheese/<supWine 00:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nuclear Energy

... that Henry Moore's Nuclear Energy sculpture was erected and dedicated to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the first self-sustaining controlled nuclear reaction?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- N.B. remove stub tags while on the main page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 20:14, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Mike Ayers coaches the smallest school in the highest division of NCAA college football? (created by Geologik (talk · contribs), nom by --Bedford ^Pray 02:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article (excluding infoboxes, lists, ect.) is only 1467 characters. It has to be 1500 or more characters, but that should be fixed easily. And the hook, IMO, it is not too interesting, but because it is the smallest school, I suppose I can take it. Something else would be better though, but I'll accept it. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 08:03, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now at 1523.--Bedford ^Pray 15:52, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Ivan Pyryev was the winner of six Stalin Prizes and was the Director of Mosfilm studios? Expanded 5x by Ghirlandajo (talk · contribs) and myself. Nom by me. dvdrw 02:13, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion length verified. Foreign language reference taken on good faith. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 02:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the football game between Offenburger FV and the SC Freiburg on 28 March 1920 lasted for 204 minutes until a winner was determined? self-nom, new article EA210269 (talk) 00:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Gwendolen, which claimed Malawi's only naval victory in World War I, was built in Mangochi (pictured) in 1897? Expanded by --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 00:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 'the' preceding HMS is not grammatically correct, but she's not listed in J. J. Colledge as a commissioned warship, so she wouldn't have been an HMS anyway. (HM gunboat perhaps?). She is in Janes', but is listed as built in 1897 (and as being named Gwendolen). I'd tend to place these sources as being more authoritative on naval matters than Lonely Planet. Benea (talk) 00:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed, although I would like to know what Janes' is. --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 01:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Jane's Fighting Ships or Jane's Information Group. Art LaPella (talk) 05:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Malawi didn't exist until the 1960's?! Kernel Saunters (talk) 14:49, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

indeed. "...which claimed the only British victory on Lake Nyasa in World War I'..." --Wetman (talk) 19:46, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This aspect of the article needs work. This was the first British naval victory of the entire war and I think may have been the first engagement of the war....Kernel Saunters (talk) 20:44, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That source says the engagement took place on 13 August, and therefore seems to have overlooked HMS Amphion and her flotilla's sinking of SMS Königin Luise on 4 August 1914, a whole week before the Lake Nyasa engagement, and just 36 hours after the British entry to the war. The destroyer HMS Lance (1914) is accredited with the first British (and Commonwealth) shot of the war, and the gun that fired it is duly preserved at the Imperial War Museum. This was the first engagement and the first victory (and shortly after came the first British casualties when the Amphion hit a mine and sank.) But even so, British and French troops had invaded Togoland on 7 August, while the Germans had attacked South Africa on 10 August. Benea (talk) 21:18, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both suggested hooks are inappropriate - needs a rethink. I've updated the article with more info but the lonely planet material on the boat would appear to be mostly inaccurate Kernel Saunters (talk) 16:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Benjamin Ferguson bequeathed a fund to Template:City-state that provided for seventeen of the city's most prominent sculptures?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 23:58, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- N.B. remove stub tags while on the main page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 19:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Rosabelle Sinclair, a native of Scotland, established the first women's lacrosse team in the United States in 1926? -- new article self-nom by Mitico (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1974, Libya and France signed an agreement whereby Libya exchanged oil for technical assistance and financial support? New article by --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 19:31, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is 1292 characters. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 20:11, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whoa! That's a huge "signature", Thingg. --74.13.129.166 (talk) 18:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, most of the above is a template intended to explain the fivefold rule. It didn't work for me, as no amount of clicking anything led to an explanation of that rule. Art LaPella (talk) 23:15, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Michael Ferreira was the first amateur billiards player to break the 1000 points barrier when he scored a break of 1149 in 1978? -- new article self-nom by Shovon (talk) 15:47, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length & reference verified. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 02:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Irish Greyhound racing regulator, Bord na gCon, includes Viagra on its list of banned substances? -- new article self-nom by Fribbler (talk) 14:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Should be its rather than it's. Ntsimp (talk) 14:19, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, thanks! Changed it. Fribbler (talk) 14:24, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- Interesting « D. Trebbien (talk) 19:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves by a factor of eight? new article, self nom by --Doug ^talk 13:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(alternate)... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves by eight times with a new technology? --Doug ^talk 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alternate)... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves by eight times with a new masonry tile stove? --Doug ^talk 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alternate)... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves by eight times with a 1767 new design? --Doug ^talk 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alternate)... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves so much it revolutionized the building industry?--Doug ^talk 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alternate)... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves so much it revolutionized the building industry starting in the eighteenth century?--Doug ^talk 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alternate)... that Carl Johan Cronstedt (pictured) increased the efficiency of wood-burning stoves so much it saved forests from excess usage?--Doug ^talk 18:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Marie Curie's birthplace

... that at Freta Street in Warsaw New Town there is a Marie Curie's birthplace? Martim33 (talk) 12:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Marie Curie was born on Freta Street in Warsaw New Town? Art LaPella (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Created July 2, 2006. Within the last five days expanded from 1,951 char. (July 9) to 2,674 char. (July 17) without infoboxes, cats and refs.[1] --Poeticbent talk 15:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

before expanding: 15 March 2008 Martim33 (talk) 09:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Castle Square (pictured) in Warsaw became to develop in the 14th century? or

... that the Castle Square (pictured) in Warsaw developed in the 14th century? Art LaPella (talk) 02:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1997, at the Castle Square (pictured) in Warsaw, U.S. President Bill Clinton gave a speech welcoming Poland to membership in NATO? Martim33 (talk) 11:37, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Created June 17, 2005. Within the last five days expanded from 3,776 char. (July 8) to 3,798 (July 17) without infoboxes, cats and refs.[2] --Poeticbent talk 15:05, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

before expanding: 19 November 2007 Martim33 (talk) 09:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Madeline Kahn made her screen debut in De Düva, an Academy Award nominated short comedy that parodied the films of Swedish director Ingmar Bergman? (self-nom, new article) -- ☑ SamuelWantman 10:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length verified. ~~References have some formatting issues but I'm more interested in the ref for Madeline Kahn's debut which leads to a dead IMDB link.~~ Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 10:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Kahn ref goes to Slate.com. The IMDB ref has been fixed. -- ☑ SamuelWantman 10:49, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Everything looks fine now. Thanks for the quick fix. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 10:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Georgetown University Hoyas mascot Jack the Bulldog (pictured) is a live English bulldog whose name derives from a 1962 dog called "Lil-Nan's Royal Jacket?" -- new article self-nom by Patrick Ѻ 07:08, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gettysburg Mason Memorial.JPG

... that the Friend to Friend Masonic Memorial (pictured) honors an Union officer rescuing a Confederate officer at the Battle of Gettysburg, due to both being Freemasons? (self-nom)--Bedford ^Pray 01:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, is it usual to include pictures of oneself in articles? It seems likely to me, judging from the resemblance to the picture on his talk page and the fact that the pic was taken by someone with the same last name, that this picture includes the nominator. Just struck me as odd. Is there a policy on this? Lvklock (talk) 09:37, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried cropping myself out, but I didn't like the look. I may have others pictures of it from previous visits, but I have no idea where they are at this time. BorgQueen is known for cropping images to use on DYK. I know of no policy sayin g this is bad or good. It does give the looker some idea how big the monument is, as the handsome guy in question *wink* is 6'4".--Bedford ^Pray 15:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

About the photo, I think that following BorgQueen's example would be best. Also, Bedford and I are deemed to be engaging in an edit war, in which Bedford opposes DYK for another DYK-nominated article involving Freemasons, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Grand Lodge of West Virginia - EDIT WAR, and/or July 12 nominations section below. The present nominated article also suffers some of the deficiencies discussed in a current Wikipedia Talk:DYK discussion. Reviewers of the present hook should perhaps consult those discussions. doncram (talk) 15:10, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

*Rolls eyes* That Masonic article was a hit piece, written as such. A pure article on any Grand Lodge, discussing its history, would be OK; a piece where the majority of it is recent negative news about the Grand Lodge is not cool. The only reason you got involved in that article was to dis' me, and we both know that.--Bedford ^Pray 17:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above image is copyrighted. --Poeticbent talk 01:15, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but a copyright that allows its use on Wikipedia however we wish; it just means that someone on another website wants to use it, they must say who the photographer was. Besides, it was probably taken on my camera, and I've dealt with the picture taker longer than I've dealt with anyone else (37 years).--Bedford ^Pray 02:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good to me, but I’d go with the plain {{Copyrighted free use}} instead to be on a safe side. --Poeticbent talk 02:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the container ship Atlantic Causeway was refitted with a ski-jump to enable her to operate Sea Harriers during the Falklands War? - self nom, new article, Benea (talk) 00:50, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that according to legend, when Catholic martyr Saint Baudilus was killed by pagan priests in Nîmes, his severed head bounced three times on the ground, each impact bringing forth a spring of water? -- new article by Polylerus (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 22:17, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that according to legend, Saint Palladius of Embrun had the gift of prophecy, enjoyed a mystical familiarity with angels, and successfully defeated the Devil's machinations simply by making the Sign of the Cross? -- new article by Polylerus (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 22:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 16

... that LA's Fire Station No. 23 (pictured) has been a location in over 50 productions, including "Ghostbusters" headquarters and scenes from "The Mask", "Flatliners" and "National Security"? new article, self-nom by Cbl62 (talk) 23:41, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I got a few again here, that could work. He is notable for Eurovision and his long career.

... that Greek singer Sakis Rouvas co-hosted the Eurovision Song Contest 2006 in Athens, Greece with Maria Menounos?

... that Greek singer Sakis Rouvas represented Greece in the Eurovision Song Contest 2004 winning third place?

... that Greek singer Sakis Rouvas has released 11 studio albums since 1991? self-nom. expanded substantially. Greekboy (talk) 22:42, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that cycles of the Life of Christ in medieval art (pictured) usually showed relatively few of his miracles? self-nom by Johnbod (talk) 21:35, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice comprehensive and well illustrated article, would make a good lead. Gatoclass (talk) 04:56, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the first peacekeeping force, the UNEF, was approved at the first emergency special session of the UN General Assembly with 57 supports, 0 opposes, and 19 abstains? -- new article self-nom by maclean 04:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the parish church of Thurning, Norfolk, contains many furnishings of a destroyed chapel of Corpus Christi College, Cambridge? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 00:06, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Quaker philanthropist and teacher Josiah Forster started his teaching career in a school his grandfather founded in the ballroom of his house in Tottenham? ~ Article by Victuallers; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 11:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Victuallers has alerted me to a concurrent expansion of Josiah's brother William's article. So I propose a new double nom:

... that Quaker brothers Josiah and William Forster, early members of the British and Foreign Anti-Slavery Society, visited US president Franklin Pierce and 13 state governors to promote their cause?

The ODNB needs to be used to verify this, which requires an editor with a British library card to access the website. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 22:03, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- ODNB ref checks out. David Underdown (talk) 14:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Jurgis Bielinis (pictured) and his organizations illegally brought about half of all Lithuanian books from Lithuania Minor to Lithuania during the Lithuanian press ban? Article by Lokyz (talk · contribs), nom by M.K (talk · contribs) Alternatives are wlcome, M.K. (talk) 11:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lodovico Trevisan

Definite article added to hook. "the Lithuanian press ban" Thingg^⊕^⊗ 15:32, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ok, thanks for the correction, M.K. (talk) 14:27, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Length and date verified; non-English reference accepted on good faith. One slight thing: could you perhaps change the hook slightly to clarify half of what - I can't tell at present whether it means 'half of all Lithuanian language books in the world', 'half of all the books in Lithuania', or 'half of all the Lithuanian books smuggled from Lithuania Minor'. Olaf Davis | Talk 09:05, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Cardinal Lodovico Trevisan (pictured), who won several battles as Captain General of the papal army, was known as the "angel of peace"? Savidan 02:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paweł Kubisz

... that Polish poet Paweł Kubisz (pictured) was sentenced in 1928 by Czech authorities for 13 months in jail for alleged transport of illegal literature to Slovakia and conspiring against the Czechoslovak Republic? self-nom by Darwinek (talk) 20:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a five-fold expansion. Article was expanded from 1553 to 5035 characters (5x expansion would be 7765 characters). Thingg^⊕^⊗ 15:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right, still I think it is quite a significant expansion compared to the last version before expansion. - Darwinek (talk) 16:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1933 Sanriku earthquake caused a 94 foot tsunami that washed away 3,000 homes and destroyed another 2,000? New article;self nom --Meld§hal *talk to me* 20:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article has <950 characters. --74.14.23.61 (talk) 03:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No change after two days. --74.13.129.166 (talk) 18:37, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Chianan Plain (pictured), the largest plain of Taiwan located at the central-southwestern region of the island, has three harvests of rice crops annually? --new article self-nom by luuva (talk) 18:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that 90% of the United Kingdom's pig and dairy production is sold under the Red Tractor farm assurance mark? --new article self-nom by Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

article is new and 2400 characters. However only 1100 characters are new, the rest copied from Organic certification. Is this eligible for DYK? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 16:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2400 total - 1100 new = 1300 old. 1300x5=6500. You need an expanded article at 6500+ characters long to qualify for DYK. --74.14.23.61 (talk) 02:55, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1891 Martinique hurricane was considered to be the worst on the island since ~~1971~~¹⁸¹⁷? Stub created by Bender235 (talk · contribs), expanded by Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 15:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Apparently a typo. 1791? 1871?--Wetman (talk) 15:26, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

1817. The article is wrong twice. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article fixed by NishKid. And I'm fixing the hook now. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 16:13, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that at the Battle of Bov, Schleswig-Holstein’s senior commander did not arrive until two hours after the fighting had started? -- new article self-nom by EasyPeasy21 (talk) 11:59, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the windmill used in the film Oh, Mr. Porter! is located at Terling, Essex? New article created and self-nom on July 16 by Mjroots (talk) 09:43, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Terling Windmill used in the film Oh, Mr. Porter!? This seems snappier, gives the name of this article itself, and gives us a rare opportunity to end a sentence in "!?" and have it be grammatically correct. (c: - House of Scandal (talk) 10:16, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Terling Windmill was featured in the film Oh, Mr Porter!? - sounds a bit better. Mjroots (talk) 10:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's much better. My suggestion isn't even grammatical! - House of Scandal (talk) 13:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook uncited. Gatoclass (talk) 03:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done Reference found and added. Mjroots (talk) 08:26, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~This is a new article (as per the nominator's claim)? According to the article's history, it has been online since 2005.~~ Ecoleetage (talk) 12:08, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Which article, Ecoleetage? Terling Windmill seems fine. Has someone cleaned up the crime scene after your accusation was posted? --76.64.77.19 (talk) 12:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I am aware, the history of an article can't be cleared. I think Ecoleetage may have been looking at the history of the Oh, Mr Porter! article. The Terling Windmill article looks fine to me as well. EasyPeasy21 (talk) 12:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just to confirm, the article on Terling windmill is the newly created one. Mjroots (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My bad Very sorry - I am a fan of Oh, Mr. Porter! and I mistook the entry as being for that film. I apologise for the error. Ecoleetage (talk) 15:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Ghost Mantis (pictured with 50 Euro coin for size comparison) looks like a dead leaf? There are other pics on commons if wanted. - self nom by - House of Scandal (talk) 09:40, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So, um, how big is a 50 Euro coin then? Johnbod (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

50 Euro coin? 50 cent Euro coin, you mean. --BorgQueen (talk) 14:54, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that's what I meant, thanks. And to answer Johnbod's question, it apparently has a diameter of 24.25 mm. ?c: - House of Scandal (talk) 03:31, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice pic, but I don't think the refs (all pet shop websites) are good enough. Gatoclass (talk) 13:33, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd welcome more help improving the article per Gatoclass's recommendation. I have added sourced material from a few non-commercial websites but it seems that hobbyists and breeders rather than entomologists are the main source of online information about species like these. - House of Scandal (talk) 18:19, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the insolvency law of Switzerland is codified in a statute that is nearly 120 years old? — Self-nom by Sandstein 08:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the spray pool on Boston Common doubles as an ice-skating rink in winter? - summertime self nom - House of Scandal (talk) 05:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that aircraft from 825 Naval Air Squadron (aircraft pictured) carried out attacks on the German warships Bismarck, Scharnhorst, Gneisenau and Prinz Eugen during the Second World War? - new article, self nom, Benea (talk) 03:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Edward P. Hurt, who coached Morgan State College to 14 CIAA football championships, was also the school's track coach and on the coaching staff at the 1964 Olympic Games? (new article)(self-nom) by «Marylandstater» ^«^reply^» 00:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Charlie Waitt was one of the first to wear baseball gloves, but was taunted and called a "sissy" by fans and teammates because he wore gloves for protecting his hands? Self-nom. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 08:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that 19th-century baseball player Charlie Waitt was taunted and called a "sissy" by fans and teammates because he wore a baseball glove to protect his hands? --76.64.77.19 (talk) 14:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date, length, and ref verified. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 04:04, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that sociologists distinguish between general social movements and specific social movement organizations? --self-nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:01, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Power pop band The High Speed Scene originated in San Francisco, but moved to Hollywood to further their career? --self-nom by Shapiros10 ^{contact me}_{My work} 22:27, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Date verified. But the article itself, excluding infoboxes, lists, references and sources, is only 296 characters. The article has to be 1500 characters or over. Not just that, but the hook isn't exciting or interesting. A lot of famous bands go to Hollywood to further their career. A more exciting and something that happens not very often of a hook hook would be better. Thanks, RyRy (talk) 01:27, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on July 15

... that JBL defeated Eddie Guerrero at The Great American Bash (2004) to begin his first reign as WWE Champion, which would last for nearly ten months? New article, just finished today. Created by me, self nom. –L A X 06:11, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Jason Castro, who was recently signed by the Singapore Slingers, is slated to become the first Filipino player in Australia's National Basketball League when the upcoming season begins? -- new article by Howard the Duck (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 05:18, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The ref in the article for the first Filipino to play in the NBL is not so clear cut. The source quotes the Slingers managing director saying "Jason becoming the first Filipino to sign a pro contract with us to play in the highly competitive Australian NBL" (emphasis mine) That seems to imply that Castro is the first Filipino to sign with the Slingers, not necessarily the first Filipino to play in the NBL. Any clarification on this would be appreciated. Agne^Cheese/^Wine 06:39, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- 2008-09 NBL Season has a better citation. --Howard the Duck 13:07, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've added that cite suggested by Howard to the Jason Castro article. --PFHLai (talk) 14:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Cathedral of Freedom, ~~a national symbol~~ featured on the Slovene 0.10€ Euro coins, was a parliamentary building proposed in 1947 that was never built? -- new article by Senix (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 04:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alt.hook)... that the Cathedral of Freedom, ~~a national symbol~~ featured on the first Slovenian stamps issued post-independence in 1991, was a parliamentary building proposed in 1947 that was never built? -- new article by Senix (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 04:36, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image was removed. --I'm an Editor of the wiki^{[citation needed]} 00:26, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length verified. References regarding the "national symbol" needs to be clarified. Between the two hooks, I think the 1st is a little better. Agne ^Cheese/^Wine 02:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We can leave out "a national symbol" from the hook while we wait for the refs to be written into the wikipage. --PFHLai (talk) 05:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leave it out even after writing the refs in. The hook is long enough. --74.13.129.166 (talk) 18:41, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the excavation at Norton Priory, Cheshire (pictured), in the 1970s was the largest excavation to be carried out by modern methods on any monastic site in Europe? or

... that the excavation at Norton Priory, Cheshire (pictured), in the 1970s revealed the largest floor of mosaic tiles to be found in any modern excavation? Big expansion, self-nom. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To comply with the instructions, would you add inline citations at the end of the sentences mentioned in the hooks to point to the exact pages in the book where the statements are mentioned? (I don't own the book, or I'd do it myself) Thingg^⊕^⊗ 19:46, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The citations were already at the ends of the paragraphs in the body of the article containing the hooks. So that the rest of these paragraphs are not messed up by further citations in their middles, I've added citations to the sentences in the lead. I know that this is not generally approved but they can always be removed when the DYK exercise is over. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 21:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Komsomolskaya station (pictured) on the Koltsevaya Line of the Moscow Metro is the most famous on the system, and was the final work of architect Alexey Shchusev? -- significantly expanded by me Kuban Cossack 07:40, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Neither new or expanded five-fold. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 16:05, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Compare the original body text of 207 words versus its present 987, that is a five fould expansion (ok rounded up...)--Kuban Cossack (По-балакаем?) 10:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately the x5 expansion has to have been made within the last five days, and it looks to me that there has only been about a x2 expansion in that time. Gatoclass (talk) 11:07, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Check history, and ignore items such as images/templates and the code used, just the main body. --Kuban Cossack (По-балакаем?) 12:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, check history. Expansion more than 5 days ago don't count. You're late. You should've nominated this under "July 10" (when expansion began), and it would still be eligible yesterday. You may want to move this nom down to that section below and ask an admin nicely. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 14:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Admins here at DYK are usually very nice. But you'd better move this nom quickly, before a new batch of expired noms gets there at the end of today. Good luck. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 14:38, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Too late now. Even the "July 11" section is gone. --74.14.17.3 (talk) 03:30, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, "the most famous on the system" is POV. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 14:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is peppered with peacock terms, such as "majestic", "imposing", etc. There are way too many images for a short article - please remove some. --BorgQueen (talk) 23:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that John Huston quit his directing job on the 1971 action film The Last Run after having fights with George C. Scott, the film’s star? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length and reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that after surviving a lynching and being convicted as an accessory to murder, years later James Cameron created America's Black Holocaust Museum? (self-nom; added many facts, expanded and cleaned up article, added headers, and all the citations), --Parkwells (talk) 21:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No redlinks are allowed in the hook (see the previously Unwritten Rules), especially when it means we can't find your article. (I also removed the second "that" because I couldn't parse the sentence that way.) Art LaPella (talk) 22:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Must have been getting tired after working too long - corrected title and links so they are both (accurately) blue links.--Parkwells (talk) 22:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article was not expanded (it actually lost some DYK characters), but the current version is much better organized and well cited. Also, the hook is very intriguing. (I didn't know James Cameron survived a lynching ;) ) Don't know if we could make an exception for this one. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 19:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed James Cameron (activist) to the piped James Cameron because that's what we usually do at Did You Know, but I didn't realize that it would cause confusion with the apparently better-known James Cameron. Art LaPella (talk) 21:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, that's not what I meant at all. :) I think it makes the hook much more interesting; which is A Good Thing™ Thingg^⊕^⊗ 18:51, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a portion of the Mountain Loop Highway was closed from 2003 to June 25, 2008 due to several floods that washed out the road? --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is this? The main page is meant for a general audience, not necessarily people familiar with things in your country. More context, please. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 15:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not a five-fold expansion. Article was expanded from 2299 to 3893 characters (5x expansion would be 11495). Thingg^⊕^⊗ 19:24, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Arnaud de Pellegrue, a cardinal-nephew of Pope Clement V, led the papal army in a 1309 war against Venice? Savidan 02:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Length fine, hook assumed to be verified by off-line source. A minor issue (which should not prevent this from reaching DYK) is that the article is hard to read due to the special vocabulary throughout. If you can fix this, please do to make it more accessible reading. « D. Trebbien (talk) 14:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on July 14

... that while recording music for Lipstick and Dynamite, Piss and Vinegar: The First Ladies of Wrestling, Neko Case found out Ella Waldek, who was in the film, was her great-aunt?
Lipstick and Dynamite, Piss and Vinegar: The First Ladies of Wrestling - Nikki311 (talk · contribs)

Verified. Gatoclass (talk) 09:29, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Georg Christian Oeder

... that Flora Danica, a comprehensive collection of botany, containing pictures of all known wild plants native to Denmark, was initiated by Georg Christian Oeder (pictured)? -- new article by Hhbruun (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that petitions called for the firing of Ohio State athletic director Dick Larkins when he hired little-known football coach Woody Hayes in 1951 instead of Paul Brown? new article, self nom. 05:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC) Cbl62 (talk) 15:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We need to see what publication that story in the footnote ran in. Right now it has just a title and date. Daniel Case (talk) 03:42, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That was a typo. I've added the publication, which is the Los Angeles Times.Cbl62 (talk) 06:07, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Cesare Borgia (pictured), the illegitimate son of Pope Alexander VI, allegedly engineered the assassination of his brother Giovanni to attain command of the papal army? Savidan 01:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is 546 characters. Tables, lists, etc. are not counted. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 18:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that both the aetosaur Redondasuchus and the phytosaur Redondasaurus were named after a formation on the Tierra Redonda Mountain? New article, self-nom. I called the Warner sister "Dottie" and lived to tell the tale! (talk) 23:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is 679 characters. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 18:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Chinese Imperial Secretary Chao Cuo (d. 154 BC) compared and contrasted the military strengths and weaknesses of both the Han Dynasty and its nemesis, the nomadic Xiongnu Empire?--Pericles of Athens^Talk 07:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Nemesis"? I always thought that Xiongnu was a tributary state. No? --PFHLai (talk) 04:50, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(alt.hook)... that Han Chinese Emperor Jing had Imperial Secretary Chao Cuo executed to appease various subordinate kingdoms in a futile attempt to end their open revolt? --PFHLai (talk) 22:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Serbian composer and multi-instrumentalist Boris Kovač and his LaDaABa Orchest combine the music of multi-ethnic Vojvodina and ballroom dance music to "to exorcise the madness of war"? -- new article self-nom by — AjaxSmack 07:09, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is not cited to a reliable source. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 17:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Sindhi Language Authority is an autonomous body under the administrative control of Department of Culture, Tourism and Youth Affairs?--Mangrio (talk) 07:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:Sindhi topi.jpg

Article was not created or expanded five-fold in the last 5 days. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 17:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the culture of Sindh has its roots in the Indus Valley Civilization? It has been shaped by the geography of the largely desert region.--Mangrio (talk) 06:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No article bolded and neither of the linked articles were created or expanded five-fold in the last five days. Thingg^⊕^⊗ 17:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Sun Prairie, Wisconsin was the birthplace of artist Georgia O'Keeffe? (self-nom) - Hexhand (talk) 17:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not expanded five fold in the past 5 days. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 19:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

True, its been expanded well beyond that over the past ten days. Could you please indicate your math, please? - Hexhand (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On 2 July the article was 13K, as of now it is 21K. Five times 13 does not equal 21. Additionally, most of the exapnsion since the 8th has been addition of images, tables, and requests for more expansion [3]. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ditto on what Petey said. I've messaged you on your talk page also Hexhand. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 21:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I would argue that most of the expansion this past week has replaced spurious or non-notable information with actual credible sources and images that we can actually use, fixing formatting issues that made the article virtually unreadable, and added citations where few existed before. Or, when we say expansion, are we only reading that as girth? - Hexhand (talk) 22:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the rules state pretty explicitly that the article must be expanded five-fold. It doesn't mean that you haven't done a wonderful job of improving the article, and helping the project, only that the article is ineligible for DYK. But don't be discouraged, take pride in the state of the article. Mastrchf (^t/_c) 23:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That seems to vastly favor new articles over improved articles. Hell, I could create a stub article for booger art, so long as I reliably cited it, and - according to this criteria - have a better shot at a DYK than an article which has been substantially improved. This seems to be a short-bus criteria, I am thinking. - Hexhand (talk) 23:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correct. Several of our rules could be gamed that way. If we had more volunteers we could debate the quality of articles for hours. As it is we have time enough to count characters in a semi-automated way. A better place to debate the rules is at Wikipedia talk:Did you know. Art LaPella (talk) 23:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

An article with so many empty sections and {{Expand}} tags is obviously unfinished and thus not ready to be featured on MainPage. I suspect that if those 9 {{Expand}} tags can get replaced by some prose within the next few days, there'll be a 5X expansion. Have fun! --PFHLai (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, of course. Please forgive my frustrated inquiries, and thank you for answering them with equanimity. Might I direct you to two different DYK suggestions I added yesterday at the bottom of this day's section? - Hexhand (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's on MainPage now! :-) --PFHLai (talk) 21:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Only one of the nine {{Expand}} tags is left. It's almost time to re-evaluate this Sun Prairie, Wisconsin article. BTW, there's another proposed hook posted above in the July 18th section. --PFHLai (talk) 21:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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+*...that [[All Blacks|New Zealand]] has only lost four [[Test match (rugby union)|Test matches]] at '''[[List of All Black Tests at Carisbrook|Carisbrook]]''' stadium in over one hundred years? (self-nom) - [[User:Shudde|<font color="Blue">'''Shudde'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Shudde|'''<font color="Blue">talk</font>''']]</sup> 13:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 *...that [[Samuel Johnson]] bragged that he could recite an entire chapter of Niels Horrebow's '''''[[Natural History of Iceland]]'''''? (self-nom) [[User: Zagalejo|Zagalejo]]'''[[User talk:Zagalejo|^^^]]''' 08:22, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
 *...that the '''[[List of wards in Plymouth|wards in Plymouth]]''' will have a new constituency in the [[Next United Kingdom general election|nest general election]]? (self-nominated) [[User:Bsrboy|bsrboy]] ([[User talk:Bsrboy|talk]]) 12:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)