Club 2

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Television broadcast
Original title Club 2
Country of production Austria
Year (s) 1976–1995 and 2007–2012
length 90 minutes
Broadcasting
cycle
old season every Tuesday and Thursday
new season weekly (Wednesdays)
genre political talk show
Moderation
First broadcast
  • October 5, 1976 (old)
  • December 12, 2007 (new) on ORF
  • The Club 2 was a discussion program of the second television ORF (before 1992: FS 2 , since ORF 2 ), which was popular because of their relevance and themes explosiveness and aired first on 5 October 1976 to 28 February 1995 in total 1401 spending. From December 12, 2007 to December 12, 2012, the new concept of the “new” Club 2 was shown on ORF 2 every Wednesday . From November 2, 2011, ORF III broadcast a “Best of Club 2” on Tuesdays under the general theme of television as it was then , starting with the first Club 2 on October 5, 1976.

    The "old" Club 2

    description

    Club 2 was usually broadcast twice a week, on Tuesday and Thursday evenings around 10:30 p.m. according to the time in the picture . A special feature of the talk show was the unlimited airtime, so some discussions lasted late into the night. The idea and development came from Kuno Knöbl , who directed the show for many years. She is considered a model for many other discussion programs abroad, such as After Dark on the BBC and Channel 4.

    The visual trademark of the first edition of the "Club" from 1976 to 1994 was the economical equipment, which consisted only of a brown leather suite, which was mostly composed of two benches and two armchairs, which were grouped around a glass table. Since the program did not use any other scenery, the lighting in the studio was chosen in such a way that the TV viewer had the illusion of a completely black background and only the leather furniture was fully illuminated. This avoided the distraction of both the audience and the guests from the discussion.

    From April 11, 2007 to August 2007, ORF 2 broadcast the program Extrazimmer as part of a program reform under General Director Alexander Wrabetz , the dramaturgy of which wanted to lean in fragments on Club 2, which the provisional working title Club 2 1/2 made clear. In August 2007, Extrazimmer was canceled due to a lack of public acceptance and repeated scathing reviews. In autumn 2007, the management decided to resume Club 2 under the original name and an almost identical concept. On December 12, 2007, the broadcast was included again in the ORF 2 program (see The “new” Club 2 below).

    Outstanding programs

    Original couch, 2012 in the Salzburg State Studio

    The first issue on October 5, 1976 was about the German federal election . The host was Günther Nenning . Disputes about the Zwentendorf nuclear power plant , which was never put into operation , about feminism and the planned hydropower plant and the occupation of the Au near Hainburg an der Donau are legendary . The writer Wolfgang Bauer caused a stir in 1987 when he pulled a pistol (unloaded, it turned out) in front of the cameras and held it to his temple. Host Rudolf Nagiller was physically attacked by two skinheads in an open broadcast .

    The issue of Club 2 on August 9, 1979 with the title “What is wrong with youth culture?” Caused a particular “excitement”. During the live broadcast pointed Nina Hagen at how women via the direct stimulation of their clitoris to orgasm could get. The result was weeks of discussion. When the program even appeared to be threatened with dismissal for some time, a kind of "rescue committee" formed from public figures such as Günther Nenning. As a first consequence, Dieter Seefranz had to resign as the moderator of Club 2. In the broadcast of June 13, 1978 with the title "1968 - Year of the Uprising", Daniel Cohn-Bendit and Rudi Dutschke met with the world journalist Matthias Walden and the political scientist Kurt Sontheimer on Austrian "neutral" soil , under the direction of Günther Nenning to exchange ideas.

    During a broadcast entitled "Radiant Future" in the early 1980s, the Hungarian-American physicist and nuclear weapons developer Edward Teller - who was charged as the father of the hydrogen bomb - gave a technocratic and cold talk about the devastating radiation effects of the then much-discussed neutron bomb on people, that the Swiss scientist Ursula Koch started to cry during the discussion. Der Spiegel later described Teller's appearance as that of a "gloomy Jahve ". According to one of the editors later, Koch was also chosen because she "is guaranteed not to cry when something terrible [from Teller] comes."

    The ORF “Club 2” discussion on the “Caribbean 1” business in May 1994 was presented as evidence in the 2007 BAWAG trial in the courtroom. As with the first edition, Günther Nenning hosted the last edition of the "old club" on February 28, 1995. The theme was " rebirth ".

    Host of Club 2 (until 1995)

    Josef Broukal , Axel Corti , Margit Czöppan , Klaus Emmerich , Helmut A. Gansterer , Adolf Holl , Peter Huemer , Kuno Knöbl , Franz Kreuzer , Paul Lendvai , Ernst Wolfram Marboe , Louise Martini , Freda Meissner-Blau , Rudolf Nagiller , Günther Nenning , Anton Pelinka , Barbara Rett , Peter Rabl , Dieter Seefranz , Jens Tschebull .

    List of "Best of Club 2"

    Since November 1, 2011, programs from Club 2 have been broadcast as Best of on ORF III under the general theme of television , but not in full. The first broadcast was canceled after a broadcast duration of 1h 11min (planned for ORF III). The series Best of Club 2 was the setting of the Club 2 also ends on ORF 2 end 2012th In addition, some old Club 2 episodes could be seen in 3sat's summer 2012 program .

    Date of
    first broadcast
    (FS 2 / ORF 2)
    Date
    Best of Club 2
    (ORF III)
    Title
    hosts and guests
    Remarks
    05.10.1976 11/01/2011 Election campaign in the FRG. Aftermath.

    Günther Nenning with Karl Blecha , Kurt Bergmann , Arlette Leupold-Löwenthal and Gertraud Diem.

    First edition of the "old" Club 2 for the 1976 federal election .
    October 19, 1976 11/08/2011 The bomb in the power plant.

    Günther Nenning with Asta Krejci (anti-nuclear activist), Edward Teller , Robert Jungk , Bernd Lötsch , Horst Knapp , Johann Millendorfer.

    Two years before the referendum on the commissioning of the Zwentendorf nuclear power plant on the growing discomfort with nuclear power.
    10/28/1976 11/15/2011 The price of glory.

    Rolf R. Bigler (journalist, Die Weltwoche ) with Henriette von Schirach , Peter Michael Lingens (journalist, profile ) and Johannes Eidlitz (editor, former resistance fighter).

    Discussion on the occasion of the publication of the volume of memoirs Der Preis der Herrlichkeit by Henriette von Schirach
    11/23/1976 11/22/2011 Expatriation from the GDR.

    Günther Nenning with Wolf Biermann about his expatriation from the GDR after the Cologne concert.

    01/20/1977 11/29/2011 Something new in the east.

    Horst Friedrich Mayer with Kurt Marko (Eastern European historian ), Jiří Pelikán (publicist, director of Czech state television until 1968), Jörg Mettke ( Spiegel correspondent in the GDR ), Gilbert Badia (journalist, France), Erhard Hutter ( ORF correspondent in Moscow ), Claus Gatterer (journalist), Witold Wirpsza (writer, translator in Poland), Thomas Brasch (playwright and screenwriter).

    Discussion about the opposition civil rights movement of Charter 77 in the Soviet- dominated countries of Eastern Europe .
    01/25/1977 December 06, 2011 Federal Army - the unloved child.

    Jens Tschebull with Emil Spannocchi (General), Günter Traxler (Journalist), Rolf R. Bigler (Journalist).

    11/9/1976 12/13/2011 The end of the welfare state .

    Günther Nenning with Ernest Mandel (Marxist economist), Heinz Kienzl (trade unionist, bank manager), Kurt Prokop, Kurt Pils.

    December 15, 1977 December 20, 2011 Does poverty have a future?

    Dieter Seefranz with Friedensreich Hundertwasser , Christine Nöstlinger , Peter Payer (architect), Franz Enzenhofer (employee in an architecture office), Gabriele Traxler (union secretary)

    The program explores the question of whether there could be more energy-efficient alternatives to the current lifestyle of most people.
    07/26/1983 03/01/2012 What does the woman want?

    Günther Nenning with Eva Deissen (columnist, Kronen Zeitung ), Gerti Senger (journalist and psychologist), Ernst Bornemann (psychoanalyst), Elisabeth Charlotte Motschmann (pedagogue), Sybille von Eike (child analyst), Karl Ernst (AHS teacher).

    Discussion about female sexuality .

    The "new" Club 2

    Description of the first two editions

    When Club 2 was resumed on December 12, 2007, the theme was “The opinion factories - who determines what we think?”. This issue naturally received a lot of media attention in advance. For a long time, the live broadcast discussed the importance of the Internet in its opinion-forming capacity. Differences between the quality of “professionally designed editorial content” and user-generated content (UGC) were also discussed. Although a discussion with open-end was announced in advance, discussion leader Rudolf Nagiller was noticeably heading towards an end after 60 minutes; the broadcast lasted around 75 minutes.

    The second broadcast of the second edition, directed on December 19, 2007 by Michael Köhlmeier , dealt with the topic of "atheism" and a possible boom in godlessness that is currently being recorded. Once again, the open end turned into an approximately 75-minute broadcast, which was clearly broken off by the action of the discussion leader, not by the course of the discussion itself. The subject matter and type of requests to speak would have been enough for another hour of lively exchange. Special features of the second broadcast: YouTube videos as an introduction; Protest by the invited pastor Sieberer (no consultation with him regarding the YouTube videos shown); A swipe from Köhlmeier to Interior Minister Günther Platter on the Zogaj case ("I wish our Interior Minister [for Christmas] a warm heart") and "crazy credits" after the broadcast when a program information for ZIB 24 was displayed, although this news broadcast on ORF 1 had long been was over.

    Latest edition

    On December 12, 2012, the ORF broadcast the last edition. The topic was: "Ripped off: Has capitalism failed?"

    The broadcasts and hosts of the "new" Club 2

    Individual evidence

    1. According to the discussion leader Günther Nenning at the beginning of the last edition of February 28, 1995, private VHS recording.
    2. ^ Film.at: Description of "Club 2: Homosexuality".
    3. a b c Repetition of the first Club 2 from October 5, 1976: election campaign in the FRG aftermath. In: TV like back then. Best of Club 2. ORF III program on tv.orf.at, November 2, 2011. Accessed November 2, 2011.
    4. Online presence extradienst.at ( Memento of the original from September 28, 2007 in the Internet Archive ) Info: The archive link was inserted automatically and has not yet been checked. Please check the original and archive link according to the instructions and then remove this notice. Kuno Knöbl on ORF @1@ 2Template: Webachiv / IABot / www.extradienst.at
    5. See After Dark in Wikipedia
    6. FM4 blog by Martin Blumenau: About the importance of Club 2 in the 1970s  ( page no longer available , search in web archivesInfo: The link was automatically marked as defective. Please check the link according to the instructions and then remove this notice. , 2007.@1@ 2Template: Toter Link / fm4.orf.at  
    7. Der Spiegel 47/1987, page 189
    8. Jürgen Roth: Der Strumpfkopf (taz.de) accessed on March 30, 2013
    9. The broadcast on ORF TVthek ( Memento of the original from May 12, 2013 in the Internet Archive ) Info: The archive link was inserted automatically and has not yet been checked. Please check the original and archive link according to the instructions and then remove this notice. (second to last video) accessed on March 30, 2013  @1@ 2Template: Webachiv / IABot / tvthek.orf.at
    10. Always a tightrope walk. Der Spiegel, 20/1982, May 17, 1982, p. 257
    11. a b "What is red ma today?" Derstandard.at, March 12, 2008
    12. Online presence of the daily newspaper Kurier ( Memento of the original from December 15, 2007 in the Internet Archive ) Info: The archive link was automatically inserted and not yet checked. Please check the original and archive link according to the instructions and then remove this notice. Club 2 in the BAWAG process. Article of July 25, 2007 @1@ 2Template: Webachiv / IABot / www.kurier.at
    13. derstandard.at: Rudolf Nagiller moderates the revived "Club 2" article from December 27, 2007 (accessed March 30, 2013)
    14. derstandard.at: “Ripped Out”: The last “Club 2” on ORF . Article dated December 13, 2012. See also: kundendienst.orf.at: Club 2 ( Memento of the original from November 3, 2011 in the Internet Archive ) Info: The archive link has been inserted automatically and has not yet been checked. Please check the original and archive link according to the instructions and then remove this notice. both accessed on March 29, 2013 @1@ 2Template: Webachiv / IABot / kundendienst.orf.at

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