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Landing craft during Zapad 2009
Landing craft during Zapad 2009

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on April 5

  • ...that the Naked Neck is the only breed of chicken naturally devoid of feathers on its neck? -- Selfnom VanTucky 06:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • (Alt hook) ...that the Naked Neck, the only breed of chicken with a neck devoid of feathers, was once mistaken for a cross between a chicken and a turkey? VanTucky 06:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 4

USS Mount Vernon with USS Sides in 2002.
USS Mount Vernon with USS Sides in 2002.
File:Pullen Memorial Baptist Church by twbuckner.jpg

Articles created/expanded on April 3

  • ...that English printer John Day raided the printing premises of his son, Richard Day, after the latter had pirated his father's works and illicitly published his own versions? Self-nomination. BuddingJournalist 22:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I like it, although just using the name might be better. See how long it stays red! Johnbod (talk) 19:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, that was kind of the idea: tantalize the casual reader, invite him to contribute by showing that even with 2 million articles, we still have rather big holes... Fram (talk) 19:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Denise Robins is not red any more. A new hook, pls. --74.14.21.229 (talk) 02:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't resist the temptation to start that article. See new hooks above under April 4. Xn4 12:08, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where? Pls consider mentioning the Taipei Rapid Transit System in the hook. --74.14.19.228 (talk) 08:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. - Way Of Life (talk) 08:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 2

  • ...that Moses, the first Arab Orthodox bishop, administered his duties while journeying with a nomadic confederation of Arabs in the fourth century? (self-nom) Tiamuttalk 13:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Creeping Groundsel (Senecio angulatus)
Creeping Groundsel (Senecio angulatus)
File:Robertkennedy.jpg
Omaha's economy was not labeled the "Motor Mouth City". Omaha was. Please fix this while you shorten this hook to ~200 characters long. Long hooks take up too much space on DYK, not good considering the current backlog. (see long list below) --74.13.125.194 (talk) 06:45, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
...that the economy of Omaha, Nebraska has expanded to embrace the burgeoning information technology sector since the city was labeled the "Motor Mouth City" by the New York Times? • Freechild'sup? 00:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on April 1

  • I think that's the first time anyone has ever nominated an article I created! As I think it would have been known as the "Crown Inn" at that date and my source suggests various other places were also used for worship, suggest: "...that during the English Civil War, the Crown Inn in Nantwich, Cheshire was used as a place of worship, as the church was used as a prison?" Espresso Addict (talk) 00:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I unintentionally beat you to it on this one! LOL. I couldn't resist a Nantwich article as I have a friend who lives there. Your proposed wording is preferable. Hassocks5489 (talk) 16:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...that in 1877 the Queen's Theatre staged an ambitious production of the Last Days of Pompeii ... the earth did not quake, the volcano did not work and acrobats fell onto the cast? (self nom) Kbthompson (talk) 15:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • OR, ...that in 1877 the 4,000-seat Queen's Theatre staged a spectacular and expensive production of the Last Days of Pompeii that flopped: the earth did not quake, the volcano did not erupt, and acrobats fell onto the cast? -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd leave out the POV-ish word "coveted". --74.13.125.194 (talk) 06:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Was Byzantine assistance expected? To mention that Bari was "an Islamic state in present-day Italy", replacing "without help from Byzantium"? More interesting to general readers? --74.13.125.194 (talk) 06:25, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, but Italy was Italy then too. Croatian is a bit debatable. ALT: ...that the Islamic Emirate of Bari in Southern Italy was conquered in 871 by Frankish and Lombard ground forces under Louis II of Italy, together with a Croatian fleet? Alt by Johnbod (talk) 19:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two options:
    • (alt1)...that Mavia was an Arab queen who personally led her troops into battle in 378 CE as part of a massive revolt she launched out of southern Syria against Roman rule?
    • (alt2)...that Mavia, a fourth century Arab warrior-queen, is said to have been "the most powerful woman in the late antique Arab world after Zenobia"? (self-nom) (fivefold expansion on 1 April) Tiamuttalk 23:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is the passport pic 'free' for use on the main page? --74.14.19.228 (talk) 06:00, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is allowed to be used on Wikipedia. --Gibmetal 77talk 07:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Errr, Are you sure? UK Passports are crown copyright, as is the portcullis logo. Great hook, but I'm not sure we can use the image. Pedro :  Chat  08:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is the passport pic 'free' for use on this talkpage here? The fairuse rationale is missing. --74.14.19.228 (talk) 08:13, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, you're probably right. I've now removed the image. --Gibmetal 77talk 14:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you want people to click and read your article, remove the link to wicktionary. Also, please consider mentioning the country in the hook, and use the piping "[[Federal Communications Commission|broadcasting regulations]]" to keep this hook short. --74.13.125.194 (talk) 06:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT: ...that confusion was caused prior to the broadcast of the 30 Rock episode "MILF Island", in the United States due to the usage of the phrase MILF as an explanation of the word would break broadcasting regulations? Referenced in the article, Self-nom by Jamie jca (talk) 19:13, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...that Cocker's Arithmetick was such a popular textbook of mathematics that over 100 editions were published over a period of more than a century? -- self-nom, new article, fact supported by reference Gandalf61 (talk) 16:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whose nom is this? "famous"? POV? --74.13.126.184 (talk) 13:44, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:William D Bloxham.jpg
  • It isn't 5x. Counting from the words "The Sports...", ending with the words "include:", and excluding the heading "[edit] Partners", I get 2266 characters. We don't count lists. In the old version (whether we use March 21 or March 31), the second paragraph is a list in prose form. If we don't count it the expansion is about 2x. If we do count it, there is no expansion at all. Art LaPella (talk) 02:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is DYK, not ITN. Can we have a hook that doesn't involve recent news, please? --74.13.125.194 (talk) 05:27, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think why it should be penalised; there isn't any guidelines that prohibit fresh content on DYK. Besides, it isn't that significant to warrant an entry on ITN in lieu of DYK (something like a side dish. Otherwise, I will be more than happy to refer it to ITN). - Mailer Diablo 19:15, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not a penalty! Just a suggestion based on past nominations here. --74.13.128.35 (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"highly respected"? POV? --74.13.128.35 (talk) 19:31, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 31

  • ...that the Slate and stylus are tools used by blind persons to write text that they can read without assistance? selfnom Jeepday (talk) 13:56, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Louis Braille
Louis Braille
People would understand this hook better if it can mentioned that An had proclaimed himself emperor in a revolt against the Tang Chinese government. BTW, did An "try to use Geshu"? Your article says Geshu offered to write those letters. --74.13.125.194 (talk) 07:15, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, An spared Geshu given Geshu's offer. I'd consider that as "use." In light of your suggestion, though, maybe we can do this alternative hook:
  • ...that after being captured by the rebel ruler An Lushan, the Tang Dynasty general Geshu Han offered to write letters to persuade other Tang generals to surrendered to An? --Nlu (talk) 22:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
California sign warning about the risks from mercury-containing fish.
California sign warning about the risks from mercury-containing fish.
Ince Manor should be OK but I am not sure that Saighton Grange Gatehouse (created 29 March) is long enough for this to qualify as a double-nom. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:04, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep typing! :) --74.13.126.184 (talk) 13:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Saighton Grange Gatehouse expanded; should be long enough now (and image added). Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:21, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great! Thank you.
Please consider moving this double-nom to the 29th March section below. --74.13.125.194 (talk) 07:20, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Latter hook better now that Saighton Grange Gatehouse has been expanded. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 16:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alternative image added: this one is of Ince Manor (hall) on 2 April 2008. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:56, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:KevinAndKell.png
  • ...that Bochica is a figure in Muisca mythology, who according to legend saved his people from a flood by creating the Tequendama Falls with a strike from his staff? Expanded 5-fold on the 31st, self-nom. It was also sort of new on the 30th, since it was undeleted on that day after getting speedied before (initially started by User:Joen235). - Bobet 13:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...that 50 years after winning ₤A100 in a fridge decorating competition, Australian artist Robert Dickerson commands from $A80,000 for a painting today? (self nom expand stub) Julia Rossi (talk) 07:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
or
Which is the best hook, please?
  • ...that Alexander Danieliuk-Stefanski, member of Russian, Polish and Romanian communist parties (and general secretary of the latter), was once an ally of Stalin, but nonetheless perished in the Great Purge? --partial self-nom, article by User:CRakovsky, expanded by User:Dahn and myself, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 15:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I am a bit concerned about the hook. The link for the Russian communist party leads to the RSDLP, which is rather incorrect. We do not know if he was actually a member of the Bolshevik (CPSU) party in Russia, though it is rather likely that he was. Secondly: yes, he was an ally of Stalin (of some sort), but, as one reference has it, he had a conflict with the Soviet establishment before he came to lead the Romanian party, so he was more or less recovered by Stalin for this last of his assignments. And, finally: it would be interesting hook, I guess, were it not for the tens of thousands of people in the same situation (i.e. men and women who may even have worshiped Stalin, and whom Stalin butchered); even when narrowing it down to Romanian or Polish communists for whom that same hook would work, we get an impressive number. So let me propose the following hook:
  • ...that the cabinet of former Norwegian Prime Minister Thorbjørn Jagland resigned following a drop from 36.9% to 35.0% of the popular vote? -- Expanded in that the text body has gone from 644 characters, including spaces, to 4340. Created by anon IP adress, expanded by Punkmorten (talk) 17:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. This submission doesn't really meet the requirements. The five-fold expansion period is severla months. The last five days the expansion has been less than four-fold. I have previously abstained from nominating on similar grounds.__meco (talk) 16:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This Article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Article has no inline references. Mike Peel (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This Article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Article has no inline references. Mike Peel (talk) 21:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on March 30

Marasmius alliaceus
Marasmius alliaceus
  • Seems very unexceptional to me. Fights between football supporters are common around the world. Gatoclass (talk) 07:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Again seems unexceptional, especially if you add the necessary caveat that this was the last steam passenger train by one particular company on one particular route. Gatoclass (talk) 07:06, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Any opinions on which fact to use? Self nomination. Mike Peel (talk) 20:54, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I like the 2nd & 3rd together. --74.14.18.220 (talk) 21:33, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the reference for "first modern bridges" as it turned out to be a tertiary source. How about: "that Hulme Arch Bridge in Manchester (pictured), opened in May 1997, follows the design of the Gateway Arch in St. Louis, Missouri, and rejoined two halves of a road that was sundered in 1969?" Mike Peel (talk) 18:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Unfortunately, Winthrop doesn't qualify either. #Suggestions states: "Proposed articles should...be no more than five days old (former redirects, stubs, or other short articles that have been expanded fivefold or more within the last five days are acceptable)." Art LaPella (talk) 03:23, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I completed edited and added (I thought enough) content to the History section. Too bad the info won't be featured. ∞☼Geaugagrrl(T)/(C) 05:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...that after over a decade of development, the Canadian Bobcat APC was cancelled in favor of the American M113, which has remained in service to this day? Maury (talk) 13:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No inline references. Daniel Case (talk) 17:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This Article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Cited source is a dead link. Daniel Case (talk) 12:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed.Mitch32contribs 19:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too short. Daniel Case (talk) 12:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too short. Daniel Case (talk) 12:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
PWS-54 needs inline citations. --74.13.128.236 (talk) 13:40, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 29

New article by Offenbach; nominated by Athaenara 18:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and date confirmed. Unable to confirm hook in the source as it is the pay version of the New York Times. Royalbroil 04:38, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think we can reject articles just because the hook is sourced to a reference which can't be checked online. If we did that, we'd have to reject every article which is referenced to a book, which would mean rejecting most of the best referenced articles. However, if someone with pay access to the NY Times could check this hook, it would be nice. Gatoclass (talk) 05:55, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think Royalbroil is just asking for assistance, rather than rejecting the nom. --74.14.19.228 (talk) 07:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No inline cites. Daniel Case (talk) 02:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
 Fixed4 inline cites now provided. This is also a BLP. JGHowes talk - 23:15, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This Article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Reference verified but too short. Daniel Case (talk) 02:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified. But really, is this unusual? Two drama graduates start an acting troup after they graduate? It's about as surprising as a finance graduate going to work at a bank. Daniel Case (talk) 20:43, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference verified ... still, I wish we had a better hook. Lots of people run for public office who've never held public office before, every year. It's not unusual. Daniel Case (talk) 20:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As a mayoral candidate, I don't think he meets WP:BIO. I've nominated it for deletion. howcheng {chat} 04:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't let this ongoing election campaign get a frontpage ad on Wikipedia! --74.14.19.228 (talk) 05:53, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This Article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Maybe it's just me (I'm having trouble keeping all the genealogies straight), but I find no mention of this in the article itself. howcheng {chat} 23:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"the catalyst"? a WP:PEACOCK term? --74.13.126.47 (talk) 05:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This Article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook is sourced to something not considered a reliable source. howcheng {chat} 04:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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