Talk:Remus Lupin

Surname's etymology

As in many names of the Harry Potter series, the surname etymology is a fascinating subtext: Romulus and Remus, first abandoned by, than rebellious against Amulius, killed him and restored the kingdom to their grandfather.

Deciding to found a town of their own, Romulus and Remus chose the place where the she-wolf had nursed them. Romulus began to build walls on the Palatine Hill, but Remus jeered at them because they were so low. Remus leaped over them to prove this, and Romulus in anger killed him. (http://www.iol.ie/~coolmine/typ/romans/romans9.html)

Lupin - Lupin means "Wolf-like". Canis Lupus is the scientific name for a wolf. Appropriately, Lupin is fast friends with Sirius Black, shape-shifter as a dog. --zzzz

...and Sirius is the Dog Star. I groaned aloud when I read those two names! --Jim Regan

Some more details on that sort of thing:

http://www.verbatimmag.com/26_2.pdf

http://www.theninemuses.net/hp/

I think that the etymology behind JKR's names should have an article of its own. --Imran

His name possibly references Monty Python's Flying Circus as well: Professor R.J. Lupin <=> Professor R.J. Gumby. --Caustic Armadillo 16:45, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

March 10?

What source was quoted for Remus' birthdate??? is this on JKR's website...?

Yes, his birthday and those of other main characters have been revealed on [www.jkrowling.com www.jkrowling.com].

As for Remus's birthyear, I'm arguing for 1959. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Severus_Snape. --Mercury McKinnon 11:15, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

Eye color

Okay, I've been watching this page for a while and there seems to be a lot of back and forth on Lupin's eyes being brown or of unknown color. Enough already! : ) If you think that Lupin's eyes are brown, please cite your source! Don't make me reread all six books just to find out! Thanks, Kam Tonnes 01:58, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

It's fanon. I do a lot of fanfic writing and have scoured for Lupin info, and there's nothing about his eyes. At least brown is better than yellow.

AGE DUDES!!!

don't let us use the calculator just to know his real age, if u guys want us to continue loving your site, cite his age!!!!! jeralyn_jayson@yahoo.com

His age tends to change over the course of the story - it's what normally happens with people's age over time, you see. Citing his age would thus be impossible. Maybe "age at time of death" or "age at time of introduction to the stories" if there has to be an age mentioned, but even that is pretty dodgy. Using a calculator still remains the best option. Dabih 21:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Last Line

I removed the last line, which, regarding Tonks and Remus, said the "most of the fandom has embraced their relationship." Unless the writer took a poll of fandom and concluded that this is, indeed, the case, I'd say that this is pure speculation.

Most likely pure speculation. If you go to FF.N (for an example), you only get 62 pages worth; while, if you sort, Sirius and Remus, you get over 200. Probably best to keep it out, in any case. Disinclination 02:49, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Death toll

"...the magical community lives in fear of a massacre like that of twelve years ago, when Black murdered thirteen people with a single curse." That's including Pettigrew. Michaelsanders 15:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

The line itself is correct since it says "12 Muggles", but it is incorrect in that is say "he believed that Sirius killed..." because Lupin believed that Sirus had killed 13 people total (despite what we now know). What should we put? John Reaves 15:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

It isn't incorrect. It says, "Lupin believed Sirius Black was guilty of murdering 12 Muggles, betraying Lily and James Potter and murdering Peter Pettigrew." Emotionally, he would have classed the murder of one of their best friends (and the betrayal of James and Lily, which got them killed) as separate to the brutal slaughter of 12 people he hadn't met. Also, the death of Pettigrew was classed differently - he got a hero's reward, and was the supposed main target; the muggles were swept under the rug, and were, either way, 'collateral damage'. Michaelsanders 15:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I assume the condensed version is "leave it the way it was"? John Reaves 16:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

You presume correctly. Michaelsanders 16:06, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

Parentage

Is there any concrete evidence on Lupin's parentage? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zain Ebrahim111 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 28 March 2007 (UTC). No, we do not. As far as I know, we don't. Disinclination 18:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

According to Blood purity, a half blood is someone whose ancestry contains at least one muggle. Since we don't know about Lupin's ancestry is it not incorrect to call him half-blood? Why not just leave that out and say 'werewolf' under blood? Zain Ebrahim

Parentage should say Uncertain, unless we get some sort of confirmation from Rowling in one of the acknowledged sources (books, movies, her web site, interviews). We know from Fenrir Greyback that "Greyback will often attack the children of people who refuse to cooperate (with him personally, or with the Death Eaters in general), and it was for this reason that he contaminated Remus Lupin", which implies that Lupin's parents were wizards who refused to cooperate with him or the Death Eaters. Half-Blood refers to purity of wizard-ancestry to the grandparents, not inter-species breeding, or perhaps "disease" as might apply to werewolfery. Perhaps "werewolf" belongs on a second line of parentage - or under something like "Species" - which could also be used for mixed-species hybrid characters like Rubeus Hagrid and Filius Flitwick. -- T-dot (talk • contribs) 11:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC).

Don't delete it straight away - I think I remember seeing a reference (possibly on Redhen) to Rowling having specified Lupin as a half-blood at some point.Michael Sanders 13:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

"Siriusstar: Is Remus a pureblood? JK Rowling replies -> Half blood." From here: http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2004/0304-wbd.htm Neville Longbottom 20:56, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Parents' blood purity

The article now reads that "Lupin is a half-blood, born, according to the series, to a wizard and a Muggle woman on 10 March 1960."

The blood purity of Remus's parents is, as far as I know, never discussed in the books (even his birthday isn't mentioned, but is known through interviews with JK Rowling; his year of birth can be derived from the Potters' tombstones, but is never actually mentioned, either). The fact that Remus is a half-blood was confirmed per an interview with JK Rowling, but for the rest, they are hardly ever mention and we barely know anything about them, let alone their blood purity.

After much thinking, I suppose somehow one could derive that Remus's father might have been a pureblood - he offended Fenrir Greyback, who might have been working for Voldemort at that time, if Voldemort was already gaining power at that time at all. If Voldemort had wanted business with him, he probably would have been a pureblood, but his father offended Fenrir, not Voldemort, so he might not have been a pureblood at all. If his father was a pureblood, his mother might have been either a muggle or a muggleborn, but both are possible; if his father was a half-blood, there are even four options possible.

All in all, it is possible I might have just missed the mention of their blood purity when reading the books, but unless someone could point me in the right direction of the actual page on which it is said, I think changing might be in order.

Dabih 21:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)