:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Article is currently 1198 characters. An ALT hook that flows a little better is: "... that '''''[[Selenochlamys ysbryda]]''''' or the ''Ghost slug'', a recently discovered [[slug]] found in [[Wales]], has a taste for flesh, blindly hunting for [[earthworm]]s at night using its blade shaped [[teeth]]?" <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|⊕]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|⊗]]</font></sup> 14:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Article is currently 1198 characters. An ALT hook that flows a little better is: "... that '''''[[Selenochlamys ysbryda]]''''' or the ''Ghost slug'', a recently discovered [[slug]] found in [[Wales]], has a taste for flesh, blindly hunting for [[earthworm]]s at night using its blade shaped [[teeth]]?" <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|⊕]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|⊗]]</font></sup> 14:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
::*...the "Ghost Slug" '''''[[Selenochlamys ysbryda|Selenochlamys ysbryda]]''''' recently discovered in [[Wales]] blindly hunts [[earthworm]]s using its blade shaped [[teeth]]?" is much, much snappier. - [[User:HouseOfScandal|House of Scandal]] ([[User talk:HouseOfScandal|talk]]) 06:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
::*...the "Ghost Slug" '''''[[Selenochlamys ysbryda|Selenochlamys ysbryda]]''''' recently discovered in [[Wales]] blindly hunts [[earthworm]]s using its blade shaped [[teeth]]?" is much, much snappier. - [[User:HouseOfScandal|House of Scandal]] ([[User talk:HouseOfScandal|talk]]) 06:27, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
*... that '''[[Temple Sinai (Oakland, California)|Temple Sinai]]''', a [[Reform Judaism|Reform]] synagogue in [[Oakland, California]], grew out of Oakland's Hebrew Benevolent Society in 1875? (created by [[User:Jayjg]], nominated by [[User:Masterpiece2000]]) [[User:Masterpiece2000|<font color="green">Masterpiece2000</font>]] ([[User talk:Masterpiece2000|<font color="green">talk</font>]]) 03:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Article date, length, citation and hook are all good. The reference is to an offline source I can't get, but that's fine. Looks good, and very well sourced article! [[User:Vickser|Vickser]] ([[User talk:Vickser|talk]]) 03:11, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
*... that an owner of the '''[[DeForest Skinner House]]''' was once the youngest railroad director in the [[United States]]? (self-nom)--[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''Bedford'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="pink">Pray</font>]]</sup> 01:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
*... that an owner of the '''[[DeForest Skinner House]]''' was once the youngest railroad director in the [[United States]]? (self-nom)--[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''Bedford'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="pink">Pray</font>]]</sup> 01:59, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
... that Czech industrialist Jan Felkl founded a company in 1854 that would produce globes in 17 languages?
... that the Russian and Belarusian military exercise Zapad 2013 was officially described as counterterrorist, but international observers concluded that it was a preparation for a conventional war?
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... that the Ashtabula Harbor Light was encased in ice by a storm in 1928, trapping its keepers inside for two days? Expansion of existing bot-generated stub by Mangoe (talk) 03:32, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Wanda Hjort Heger showed up uninvited every week at the gate of Sachsenhausen during WWII with two jars of potato salad for Norwegian prisoners and gained enough access to be a conduit for medicine and other vital supplies? (self-nom) --Leifern (talk) 02:39, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Wanda Hjort Heger showed up uninvited every week at the gate of Sachsenhausen during WWII with two jars of potato salad? is long enough and way more intriguing! Hooks shouldn't be summaries. They should just peak the readers' interest. - House of Scandal (talk) 06:10, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Operation Chico was the first mass evacuation in the country in which residents were quartered away from their homes overnight? -- new article self-nom by Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 22:45, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Presidio La Bahia was originally established on the ruins of the failed French colony Fort Saint Louis and was moved twice before being permanently located near Goliad, Texas? expanded 5-fold; self nom. Karanacs (talk) 20:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that despite being outnumbered over 2:1 and sustaining about 500 more dead and wounded, Denmark was able to achieve a victory over Schleswig-Holstein at the Battle of Fredericia? -- new article self-nom by EasyPeasy21 (talk) 19:57, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the excavation at Norton Priory, Cheshire, (pictured) in the 1970s was the largest excavation to be carried out by modern methods on any monastic site in Europe? or
... that the excavation at Norton Priory, Cheshire, (pictured) in the 1970s revealed the largest floor of mosaic tiles to be found in any modern excavation? Big expansion, self-nom. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 11:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The hook should be lower than 200 characters. This one is 225 characters. -- RyRy (talk) 01:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WP:DYK says "about"... what if it were 201 characters :/ ...? I can't see even one word that should be removed. But whatever. I'll take off the first three words " a total of"... and "from" Ling.Nut(WP:3IAR)
The further you deviate away from the preferred course, the less likely your nom will get picked.
... that after surviving a lynching and being convicted as an accessory to murder, years later James Cameron created America's Black Holocaust Museum? (self-nom; added many facts, expanded and cleaned up article, added headers, and all the citations), --Parkwells (talk) 21:52, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No redlinks are allowed in the hook (see the previously Unwritten Rules), especially when it means we can't find your article. (I also removed the second "that" because I couldn't parse the sentence that way.) Art LaPella (talk) 22:09, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Must have been getting tired after working too long - corrected title and links so they are both (accurately) blue links.--Parkwells (talk) 22:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that a portion of the Mountain Loop Highway was closed from 2003 to June 25, 2008 due to several floods that washed out the road? --CG was here. (T - C - S - E) 23:12, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that petitions called for the firing of Ohio State athletic director Dick Larkins when he hired little-known football coach Woody Hayes in 1951 instead of Paul Brown? new article, self nom. 05:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC) Cbl62 (talk) 15:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The hook statement can be easily implied by the refs provided in the article, but it is not specifically mentioned in the citations. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about... that Fermín Tangüis, from Puerto Rico, developed the Tanguis cotton in Peru when that country's cotton industry suffered as a consequence of a fungus plague called Cotton Wilt? Tony the Marine (talk) 22:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hook is not cited to a reliable source. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:37, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Sindhi Language Authority is an autonomous body under the administrative control of Department of Culture, Tourism and Youth Affairs?--Mangrio (talk) 07:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No article bolded and neither of the linked articles were created or expanded five-fold in the last five days. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not expanded five fold in the past 5 days. Mastrchf (t/c) 19:33, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
True, its been expanded well beyond that over the past ten days. Could you please indicate your math, please? - Hexhand (talk) 20:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On 2 July the article was 13K, as of now it is 21K. Five times 13 does not equal 21. Additionally, most of the exapnsion since the 8th has been addition of images, tables, and requests for more expansion [1]. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:46, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ditto on what Petey said. I've messaged you on your talk page also Hexhand. Mastrchf (t/c) 21:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would argue that most of the expansion this past week has replaced spurious or non-notable information with actual credible sources and images that we can actually use, fixing formatting issues that made the article virtually unreadable, and added citations where few existed before. Or, when we say expansion, are we only reading that as girth? - Hexhand (talk) 22:18, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the rules state pretty explicitly that the article must be expanded five-fold. It doesn't mean that you haven't done a wonderful job of improving the article, and helping the project, only that the article is ineligible for DYK. But don't be discouraged, take pride in the state of the article. Mastrchf (t/c) 23:11, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That seems to vastly favor new articles over improved articles. Hell, I could create a stub article for booger art, so long as I reliably cited it, and - according to this criteria - have a better shot at a DYK than an article which has been substantially improved. This seems to be a short-bus criteria, I am thinking. - Hexhand (talk) 23:34, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. Several of our rules could be gamed that way. If we had more volunteers we could debate the quality of articles for hours. As it is we have time enough to count characters in a semi-automated way. A better place to debate the rules is at Wikipedia talk:Did you know. Art LaPella (talk) 23:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An article with so many empty sections and {{Expand}} tags is obviously unfinished and thus not ready to be featured on MainPage. I suspect that if those 9 {{Expand}} tags can get replaced by some prose within the next few days, there'll be a 5X expansion. Have fun! --PFHLai (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're right, of course. Please forgive my frustrated inquiries, and thank you for answering them with equanimity. Might I direct you to two different DYK suggestions I added yesterday at the bottom of this day's section? - Hexhand (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the first Texian to be seriously wounded during the Texas Revolution was Samuel McCulloch, a freed slave who was shot in the shoulder during the Battle of Goliad? selfnom Karanacs (talk) 19:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article does not mention it being the first direct rail to ferry connection. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:20, 14 July 2008 (UTC) - I have added it into the article now.MY♥INchile 22:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that South American Coati males were originally considered a separate species from South American Coati females due to different social habits and were called "coatimundis"? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 21:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article linked and bolded. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:52, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and date verified. Offline reference accepted on good faith. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that whether prosections are as effective as dissections in the teaching of medicine is an unsettled aspect of medical education? - new article and selfnom by Tim1965 (talk) 17:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that while Fr. Benedict Groeschel was recovering from injuries after being hit by a car in 2004, he co-authored the book "There Are No Accidents: In All Things Trust in God”? (self-nom) Ecoleetage (talk) 00:40, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please be reminded that new articles need to be more than 1500 characters long in order to qualify for DYK. (See requirements above.) 1931 Belize hurricane currently has about 1000 characters only. Please keep typing. :-) Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please be encouraged to start Albert Waldron (the patient in the middle) and make this a 2-in-1 hook! Or a 3-in-1 hook by expanding Hanford MacNider (on the left, no mention of his work in WW2 in his bio yet). Happy typing. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 17:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Vector Field Histogram (VFH) algorithm used in robotic motion planning received two major update after its original creation in 1991, and have been renamed the VFH+ and VFH*? --self-nom --Jiuguang (talk) 23:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Vector Field Histogram (VFH) algorithm used in robotic motion planning received two major updates after its original creation in 1991, which were renamed as VFH+ and VFH*? Art LaPella (talk) 23:59, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, thanks, Art! --Jiuguang (talk) 15:17, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No explantion of VFH* in the article. (humbly suggest this article could do with more intro and a diagram to improve context). Victuallers (talk) 17:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that although the Siege of Mahdia was a military failure, it led to a reduction in piracy? self-nom, Ekem (talk) 13:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where? When? A little more context in the hook, please. --76.64.77.19 (talk) 06:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Rum Swizzle is often called "Bermuda's national drink"? - article originally created by User:Braslinut then adopted and expanded by me to save it from an AfD debate. There's a strong (thus far unanimous) consensus to keep and I am posting it here now so that other DYK editors can poke their noses in as desired. Please consider this summery concoction for inclusion in DYK when the debate closes. WARNING: Article might make you thirsty! - House of Scandal (talk) 23:15, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
AfD discussion ended. Result was "Speedy Keep". - House of Scandal (talk) 16:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that when constructed in 1907, the Baku-Batumi pipeline was the world's the longest kerosene pipeline.New article; self-nom.Beagel (talk) 20:21, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I expanded all three pages in case any of them were too close to the character count limit. Ottava Rima (talk) 18:41, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
An Alt nom: ... that Henry Fielding praised Jane Collier, author of An Essay on the Art of Ingeniously Tormenting and The Cry, for her "understanding more than female, mixed with virtues almost more than human"? same information for credit as above. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the 2003 Hokkaido earthquake was not given a cost in US dollars because it occurred offshore and did not cause as much damage as it would have on the mainland of Japan? New article; self-nom. --Meldshal42(talk to me) 17:38, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article is 1292 characters. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:12, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The section on "Maya" lacks citations that verify that it is Maya Angelous and that she "was able to survive as a black child in a white-dominated world". Thats the key concern here. Ottava Rima (talk) 05:40, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's what I mean. As mentioned in #Instructions, the hook statement must be cited in the article with an inline citation. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, sorry, this is me trying to push the limits. ;) How's this:
I think you misunderstand. The first hook was fine, all you needed was an inline citation in the article, that supported the exact fact represented in the hook. I've added an inline citation (Lupton, p. 57) using Amazon, so it should be ok now. Lampman (talk) 22:28, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, duh. Thanks. I'd like to resubmit the original hook, then. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 05:19, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sigtuna box
... that the Sigtuna box(pictured) has a runic poem that threatens thieves, but in a metre that was usually reserved for Viking lords and kings? (self-nom)--Berig (talk) 15:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Grand Lodge of West Virginia does not allow a man to become a Freemason if he "has lost a foot, a right hand or a right thumb back of the first joint"? self nom by JASpencer (talk) 11:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please be reminded that new articles need to be more than 1500 characters long in order to qualify for DYK. (See requirements above.) Please keep typing. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 20:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It also reads like a hit piece. If it wasn't for the black Masons section, it would only be a sentence or two.--BedfordPray 03:04, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article has no inline citations. Also, the info in the article probably should be moved into SS Imperator as a sub-section as both articles are about the same ship and a fair amount of the information is overlapping. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not a new article or 5x expansion. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the lob bomb is a newly developed form of airborne improvised explosive device made from a propane tank, and used by insurgents in Iraq against U.S. forces? {self nom) -- Badagnani (talk) 05:50, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please be reminded that new articles need to be more than 1500 characters long in order to qualify for DYK. (See requirements above.) Please keep typing. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 20:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How does one count the characters of an article? Can you please inform me how many characters the article is now? Badagnani (talk) 21:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Now, the article has 1750+ characters (I'm too lazy to remove the superscripts...) and is therefore long enough. Thank you for expanding it.
Please see #Instructions above where it says "To count the number of characters in a piece of text, you will need ..." Hope this helps. --PFHLai (talk) 00:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, ref, and date verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that journalist and sometime art museum curator Erastus Brainerd led the publicity campaign that established Seattle's role as the gateway to the Yukon Gold Rush? - Jmabel | Talk 06:47, 12 July 2008 (UTC) (self-nom)[reply]
... that the Greenfield Lane segment of the decommissioned New York State Route 273 no longer is part of the highway's new designation?Mitch32(UP) 15:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Budweiser Bier Bürgerbräu, which had originally been introduced in 1802, is offered by the Czech brewery in European markets as "Budweiser Bier", while in North American markets they call it "B. B. Bürgerbräu"? --self nom by Matthead Discuß 22:56, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article does not mention the beer making a comeback and the American name is not cited. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:30, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Updated hook and article. The naming is complicated due to historical changes and the international trademark rights rulings. -- Matthead Discuß 23:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length, and ref verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 13:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Taipei MetroXiaonanmen Station is served by a single train that uses one of its two platforms, which alternates every four months? - self-nom, Mailer Diablo 19:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I changed "switches for" to "alternates". --Art LaPella (talk) 20:49, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, picture copyright and reference all check out, but you say Xylella fastidiosa instead of Pierce's disease in the text of the article, so someone trying to follow up on the hook might be confused. Could you maybe add in a "also known as Pierce's disease" into the article paragraph? And while I'm commenting, beautiful picture. Vickser (talk) 03:23, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have incorporated "Pierce's disease" into the article per your excellent suggestion. I like this hook because one probably doesn't know that Pierce's disease affects trees unless one clicks on the article. It sounds like something dreadful that people can contract from this pretty lil bug! I am glad you like the picture; I like it too but can't take the photo credit. - House of Scandal (talk) 03:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I'd say it's front page ready now. Vickser (talk) 04:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Buffalo Treehopper
... that the Buffalo Treehopper(pictured) is an insect named for its resemblance to the American Bison? -- There's another decent free pic in the article than can be cropped for front page if desired. Self nom by House of Scandal (talk) 20:15, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, hook, picture, reference and citation are all good to go. Vickser (talk) 03:29, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
NOTE ABOUT THE TWO ARTICLES ABOVE: Having both the Buffalo Treehopper article and the Candy-striped Leafhopper article on DYK on approximately the same day seems a little tedious. I am not assuming both articles will get promoted but do hope they are. I expanded the Candy-striped Leafhopper about fivefold yesterday by my guestimation, therefore I suggest let's consider Candy-striped Leafhopper a July 15th article rather than a July 11th article. That way there can be a approximately 4 day break between them. Let's consider doing this even if the expansion is slightly less than fivefold or whatever. It seems practical and better for the audience. Anyone agree? - 03:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I'd support that. It's more than a 5x expansion (316-->2400), and I think having them farther apart would be beneficial. It would make the articles less likely to be confused, and create more variety (and thus, in my opinion, interest) for DYK. With no rule breaking involved and plenty of good reasons, I say go ahead and do it. Vickser (talk) 05:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's more complicated than that. According to the article itself, "Though the National Park Service in 1976 called the finished memorial the "last major Classical style memorial" constructed in the United States[1], the New York State Memorial to Theodore Roosevelt at the American Museum of Natural History by John Russell Pope was also completed in 1936, and Pope's Jefferson Memorial in Washington was completed during 1939-1943." I would suggest we compose a different hook. - House of Scandal (talk) 00:02, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It got changed from what I initially typed, although the Jefferson Memorial is definitely a newer Classical (don't know if the other is Classical). I'm looking for an alt hook as we speak.--BedfordPray 00:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Seems odd just a grand building has a dirt floor, especially one built in the 20th Century, so it might make a great hook, if in the pictured slot.--BedfordPray 04:17, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, and reference all check out, but I'm not crazy about the use of "historic" in the hook. It's not entirely clear what exactly historic means purely in the context of the sentence. (You could read it as extinct, for example, which would be incorrect.) Maybe ". . . that the Narragansett Turkey is unique to North America and named after Narragansett Bay in Rhode Island?" or something along those lines?
Thanks for opining. You have a good point. The phrase comes from the American Livestock Breeds Conservancy and is cited, but that doesn't mean it's a hard definition (although maybe it is) rather than a loosey-goosey (loosey-turkey?) one. The alternative hook is fine with me, although I might even exclude "and named after Narragansett Bay in Rhode Island?" I do say "might" as it's sort of interesting and Little Rhodey doesn't get front page space often! - House of Scandal (talk) 03:36, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Either with or without Rhode Island is fine. Pick one and write it out so we can give it a check! Vickser (talk) 21:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that Selenochlamys ysbryda or the Ghost slug, was recently found in Wales and that it's new to science? Unlike other garden slugs Ysbryda has a taste for flesh, blindly hunting for earthworms at night using its blade shaped teeth. -- self-nom, new article (July 10th) expanded 11th. Requested a GFDL picture from the National Museum of Wales. MattOates (Ulti) (talk) 12:38, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Article is currently 1198 characters. An ALT hook that flows a little better is: "... that Selenochlamys ysbryda or the Ghost slug, a recently discovered slug found in Wales, has a taste for flesh, blindly hunting for earthworms at night using its blade shaped teeth?" Thingg⊕⊗ 14:19, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length of both hook and article are fine, but you need to have an inline citation immediately after the hook, not just at the end of the paragraph. It would also be a good idea to move away from just straight urls to what it is and the page number where you got the information. The cited fact, for example, I'd maybe the reference read: DeForest Skinner House Registration Form, National Register of Historic Places. Page 14. Vickser (talk) 05:14, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sign, extraneous cite added.--BedfordPray 15:37, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
, date, and ref verified. Thingg⊕⊗ 18:28, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I went ahead and cleaned up the citations and some of the red links as well. Citations now include a page and aren't just written as blank urls. Vickser (talk) 19:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Only the original and third one are free online, but it's possible the superintendent one is the most interesting. I just hope one of these is interesting enough to draw a reviewer. Vickser (talk) 02:58, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Expiring noms
Articles created/expanded on July 10
... that Jim Keays of Australian rock band Cotton Keays & Morris survived a recent battle with myeloma that shut down his kidneys? Self-nom, article completed 10 July. WWGB (talk) 12:41, 13 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not to nitpick too much, but the cited article doesn't say he survived the cancer, only that he was diagnosed with it. It also says his kidneys were running at 5% rather than shut down entirely. I was able to find an article that says he's winning his battle with cancer if you want to cite that. [2] Can you rewrite the hook or recite the sentence so that it says what's in the cited source? Length and date both check out, by the way. Vickser (talk) 18:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, inline citation and reference are there, but I can't find anywhere in the source that says that the Ian Campbell Medal is the highest award of the American Geological Institute. Could you either reword or point out where it is? (It's possible I'm being idiotic and missing it, and if that's the case, apologies.) Vickser (talk) 03:37, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
... that miners living in Sego, Utah bought out the coal mine they worked for? (self-nom) Ntsimp (talk) 03:13, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
5x expansion, date, and reference all verified. If you were able to replace the bare urls that would be nice, but more importantly, when you're citing such long works, could you please try to put down page numbers? I was able to find the hook without spending too much time since it was only on page 9, but with a 77 page document it was pretty daunting. Thanks! Vickser (talk) 05:54, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The hook should be lower than 200 characters. This one is 225 characters. -- RyRy (talk) 01:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
The hook statement can be easily implied by the refs provided in the article, but it is not specifically mentioned in the citations. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
An article with so many empty sections and {{Expand}} tags is obviously unfinished and thus not ready to be featured on MainPage. I suspect that if those 9 {{Expand}} tags can get replaced by some prose within the next few days, there'll be a 5X expansion. Have fun! --PFHLai (talk) 06:24, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
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Length and date verified. Offline reference accepted on good faith. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Please be reminded that new articles need to be more than 1500 characters long in order to qualify for DYK. (See requirements above.) 1931 Belize hurricane currently has about 1000 characters only. Please keep typing. :-) Thanks. --PFHLai (talk) 23:10, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
ref and length fine Victuallers (talk) 17:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
- No explantion of VFH* in the article. (humbly suggest this article could do with more intro and a diagram to improve context). Victuallers (talk) 17:33, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
Length, date verified. Hook's citations aren't available online, so hook confirmed IAW WP:AGF. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
