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Bomb defusing, photographed by Lander
Bomb defusing, photographed by Lander

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Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on June 22

Articles created/expanded on June 21

a Lamona chicken
a Lamona chicken
  • ... that it took just over 20 years to finish developing the Lamona breed of chicken (pictured), but it was nearly extinct by the 1980s? Selfnom VanTucky 23:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Albert Pujols
Albert Pujols
Nkhata Bay
Nkhata Bay
  • ... that a swimmer escaped a crocodile attack in Nkhata Bay, Malawi (pictured) by biting the crocodile on the nose? (self-nom, over 5x prose expansion) EJF (talk) 15:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changed wording for second hooked article. Daniel Case (talk) 19:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lengths for both and hook reference verified. Daniel Case (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Foguang Temple
Foguang Temple
Norwegian Industrial Workers Museum
Norwegian Industrial Workers Museum
Can the pic be cropped to make the building appear bigger at 100px on the main page. --74.14.20.124 (talk) 19:34, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nobile Teatro di San Giacomo di Corfù‎
Nobile Teatro di San Giacomo di Corfù‎
  • ... that administering a strong solution of coffee through the rectum by means of a Murphy drip was alleged to have been a treatment for shock at the Battle of Midway? (self nom) my attempt at making up for a string of dull DYKs in a row. Now I'm going back to writing about boring electronics theory. SpinningSpark 01:43, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two possibilities here:
Irvington Town Hall
Irvington Town Hall
Self-nom. Added second one because it gets in two good facts, and frankly I like it better. Daniel Case (talk) 18:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
OR

Articles created/expanded on June 20

  • ... that V.D. Savarkar's 1909 history of the 1857 uprising, the The Indian War of Independence, was a nationalist interpretation compiled in response to celebrations of the 50th anniversary of the event in Britain? (self-nom)[[::User: rueben_lys| rueben_lys]] ([[::User talk: rueben_lys|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/ rueben_lys|contribs]]) 17:14, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
St Margaret's Church, Rottingdean
St Margaret's Church, Rottingdean
an AIM-47 Falcon air-to-air missile
an AIM-47 Falcon air-to-air missile
  • ... that the Tang Dynasty general Li Siye once bared his upper body and battered fleeing soldiers with his staff to stop a general panic? (self-nomination, expansion) --Nlu (talk) 21:20, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Monkey Bay, Malawi
Monkey Bay, Malawi
  • ... that few households in Monkey Bay, Malawi (pictured) can afford electricity because the connection fee alone is three times higher than the average monthly wage? (self-nom, over 5x prose expansion; note: German-language source cited for hook fact) EJF (talk) 20:55, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Main prose is only 1,000 characters - minimum is 1,500 per the rules. Date and ref. check out though and it's a nice topic, so if it gets expanded it'd be nice to use. Olaf Davis | Talk 11:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded it, and believe it meets the criteria now. Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood 01:44, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length and reference verified. Olaf Davis | Talk 11:06, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length and reference verified. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
DYK is only for new articles, or those which have been expanded five-fold in the last five days. Please see the selection criteria. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:57, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date and length verified; reference exists. Agree with Nousernamesleft that the former hook is nice, but the latter is less obscure and therefore better for the Main Page. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
swamp yellow brittlegill
swamp yellow brittlegill

Articles created/expanded on June 19

Sir John Maynard
Sir John Maynard
  • ... that the Engkanto, a Philippine mythical creature, might be based on early encounters with European friars? -- new article by User:Dpmuk; Nom by Lenticel (talk) 06:43, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, we should probably have a bit of a wider discussion about this one... draw in a few more eyeballs than the T:TDYK crowd. I'll start a thread at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Goat sex. --JayHenry (talk) 00:33, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could stand to be a little longer, as it's only long enough if it's "famous occurrences" section (which is more like a trivia section). The fact is cited, but on a page in English who's main page is in German.--Bedford Pray 00:46, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's pretty clear from talk page discussion that the image relating to this article should not be included. -- Anonymous DissidentTalk 09:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the image, it was not in my original hook, someone came by later and added it. If they want they can create their own hook with the image. I am also expanding the article right now so size should not be an issue. - Icewedge (talk) 10:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, I'd like to know why nobody has approved any of my posts. I've posted for the thirteenth, the fifteenth, the sixteenth, the seventeenth, the eighteenth, and now the nineteenth. All I've gotten is comments on the issues with thirteen, seventeen, and eighteen. Nobody even seems to have noticed the others. Someone tell me, have I done something wrong, or has everyone else in this game conspired to make sure I never have another DYK article again? What's going on? I called the Warner sister "Dottie" and lived to tell the tale! (talk) 01:12, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nevermind, two of them have already been acknowledged and used. Time is all it takes. I called the Warner sister "Dottie" and lived to tell the tale! (talk) 00:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Linda Finch
Linda Finch
Agree with this tweaked hook. Thanks for sugggestion. --Doug talk 11:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • What article are you nominating? There are no links at all in your proposed hook. --EncycloPetey (talk) 18:23, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think the user is proposing Nutritional gatekeepers, an article they have created. I've bolded the link in the hook, so it stands out more. I called the Warner sister "Dottie" and lived to tell the tale! (talk) 20:18, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. That is the article I was referencing. ShoesssS Talk 20:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, length and reference verified. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
James Cook
James Cook
  • ... that oil painting brush strokes are visible in the textures of the video game Conan? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Jappalang (talk) 09:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest adding a few words about Davis. Anybody could have had a young mulatto ward but they won't make the hook interesting. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:56, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I added Confederate president; how's that?--Bedford Pray 05:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please fix your bare references, so the quality of your references can be evaluated? doncram (talk) 05:21, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
LSR Preserve visitor center
LSR Preserve visitor center
  • ... that even though Captain Edward Mallory was injured by shot, saber and bayonet he and his his men forced the enemy to retreat at the Skirmish at Waters Creek? Create 00:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC) by Chrislk02 Chris Kreider 00:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How should the hook relate to the suggested pic? Can't use "(pictured)". If the text cannot be read from the 100px thumbnail, we can't really use this image on the main page. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:46, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Good call. I took the picture out Chrislk02 Chris Kreider 20:51, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Let's not post negative stuffs about a living person (or a recently dead person, but not applicable here) on the main page. It's not nice. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:44, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry but WP:Be nice only applies to other Wikipedians, not the subjects of articles. CitiCat 04:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"...hooks which focus on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided." See #Instructions above. --74.13.129.216 (talk) 14:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As this is my suggestion, how about...
  • ... that Yafa Yarkoni, a popular Israeli singer active since the 1940s, is popularly known as the "War Singer", despite refusing to identify with the label? (self-nom) -- Ynhockey (Talk) 20:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
scaly hedgehog
scaly hedgehog
or
Verified date and length, and that references exist ([1], [2]). I like the first hook, or maybe a combined one:
Part of the monument Victims of Political Repressions opposite to Kresty Prison.
Part of the monument Victims of Political Repressions opposite to Kresty Prison.
How to relate the hook to the suggested pic? Can't use "(pictured)" in either hook.--74.13.124.106 (talk) 08:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 18

Verified. The source is on you, I suppose. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 22:31, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can the suggested pic be brightened a bit? --74.13.124.106 (talk) 08:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Enrique Iglesias
Enrique Iglesias
Special Request: If the above article passes, would it be possible to hold on for a few days and feature it on 29 June, when the performance at the final will take place? Lampman Talk to me! 00:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • "seem to prefer"? I thought we only post facts on DYK. --74.13.129.216 (talk) 15:07, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And? I'm not sure what your definition of facts is, but Wikipedia's definition is content that's supported by external, reliable sources. Lampman Talk to me! 19:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If things only "seem" to be a certain way, it's not a fact but an impression. If this is not factual info, but people's changeable opinion, please poll those fans again before posting such a hook on the main page, esp. you are asking for a delay. Alternatively, you may want to say in the hook "... that, according to a poll conducted <insert date> / a report by <insert reporter>, the fans at the UEFA Euro 2008 prefer..." --74.14.20.124 (talk) 19:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This polling requirement is a new rule you're introducing from out of nowhere, besides - wouldn't that be original research? If a general trend is reported by several external, reliable news organisations, then that's factual enough to go on the main page, without me or anyone else here at Wikipedia conducting polls. If you find the word 'seem' so objectionable, I'll change it to 'reportedly'. The alternative hook you're suggesting is much more bland; it is, however, footnoted. Lampman Talk to me! 20:36, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The polling was not a requirement, but something needs to be done to make sure whatever gets on the main page is still true a week from now on your requested day. Switching to "reportedly" helps a lot. The report was published. Even though the fans may change their mind, the hook would still be good. --74.13.124.106 (talk) 08:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If this is too bland, maybe we can have a hook about the guitar riffs. --74.13.124.106 (talk) 08:50, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date and source verified. Vishnava talk 22:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
location of the 2002 Iran earthquake
location of the 2002 Iran earthquake
Not sure if the suggested pic would work on DYK. No space for a legend on the main page to explain what's on the map. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date and source verified. The image is prolly not gonna work, as the anon has said above. Vishnava talk 22:49, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
100 North Tampa is the tallest skyscraper along Florida's Gulf Coast.
100 North Tampa is the tallest skyscraper along Florida's Gulf Coast.
A near identical hook is in the June 17 section below. Let's make that a 2-in-1 hook! --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:27, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the girls of St Mary's School, Calne, are divided into five Companies, each named after local bishops? - expanded today from redirect and self-nom by Xn4 23:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Lorenzo Da Ponte
Lorenzo Da Ponte
  • ... that after the F6D Missileer (pictured) was cancelled in 1960, the US Navy had to wait until the F-14 Tomcat entered service in 1974 to fill their "fleet defense fighter" requirement of 1957? Maury (talk) 21:13, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your suggested pic, Image:F6D-1 Missileer.jpg, was removed by a bot. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Mask of Tutankhamun
Mask of Tutankhamun
Pls add ALT text here.
Pls add ALT text here.
  • ... that Archie J. Old Jr. completed the first round-the-world nonstop flight (route shown) by a jet-powered aircraft? new article, self nom by --Doug talk 14:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How does the suggested pic relate to the hook? Wanna say sth like "(route shown)" somewhere? --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:40, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for suggestion. Entered in the wording. Also could put in image of Archie J. Old if you think better. --Doug talk 11:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I like this pic a lot more than Archie's pic. --74.13.129.216 (talk) 15:00, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to mention Japan in this hook. Better if you can link to the wikiarticle about that historical era of Japan. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:49, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing.[3] --74.13.129.216 (talk) 15:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What does "his first term" mean? a term as an elected DA? Please elaborate in the hook and link to a wikiarticle that explains the job of a DA in the US and how long a term is, etc. --74.14.20.124 (talk) 19:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 17

Vaneeza Ahmad.
Vaneeza Ahmad.
Nice pic. This is a rare, good-but-free pic of a professional model. --74.13.126.156 (talk) 04:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
100 North Tampa is the tallest building in Tampa, Florida.
100 North Tampa is the tallest building in Tampa, Florida.
  • Yeah, the addition of the "s" was just a careless typo on my part :-) It was supposed to read: that the tallest building in Tampa, Florida... I have added the intended reading below. Cheers, Raime 00:42, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
100 North Tampa is also new. Let's make this a 2-in-1 hook:
A Canadian CF-18, winner of the NFA program, flies off the coast of Hawaii
A Canadian CF-18, winner of the NFA program, flies off the coast of Hawaii
beach of Xai-Xai
beach of Xai-Xai
  • Far too short. Articles must have at least 1500 characters of main body text. Please check the rules, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 19:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This is not mentioned in the article. Johnbod (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(alt hook)*... that in 2004 the Brigham Young University Museum of Art ranked first in attendance among university campus art museums with 334,774 visitors?5x expansion, self-nom TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 17:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The first hook is more interesting. Why don't you fit it into the article? Verne Equinox (talk) 21:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'd suggest leaving out "during his career," as it seems unnecessary. Obviously no awards were won before or after working in showbiz.
I actually like this one better:
This hook works in either tense. --74.14.16.131 (talk) 13:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on June 16

  • Citation is a detailed 26 pg. PDF file -- which page has alt hook citation? --Rosiestep (talk) 05:47, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strike my assertion that it is the one monument erected by the KWMA; source (p.14) is ambiguous on that, upon re-reading it. Sorry. doncram (talk) 16:27, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please add "(pictured)", where appropriate, and ALT text. --74.14.16.131 (talk) 13:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Johnson Creek
Johnson Creek
Please add "(pictured)", where appropriate, and ALT text. --74.14.16.131 (talk) 13:24, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook lacks inline citation; there's still time to add it. --Rosiestep (talk) 05:09, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Citations are at the paragraph level. Please move to the sentence if you think it is necessary. Northwesterner1 (talk) 10:52, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Try duplicating the footnotes in the articles. Easier for DYK screeners. --74.13.124.106 (talk) 08:55, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Egads!!! I've purposely spread out my various monument articles, as I thought all at once would be too much. NINE SEPARATE REGION ARTICLES FOR OREGON!!! We are either talking nine straight updates with one each of these, or maybe one super one, saying Oregon has nine, and have all on that one.--Bedford Pray 17:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it was better for the encyclopedia that they all go up at once, for blue links in the navbox and all that. It's not necessary that they all become DYKs, of course. I think the individual articles themselves are interesting, but I'm weird like that. If you want to do all nine with just one DYK link, you can use List of ecoregions in Oregon, which went up at the same time.Northwesterner1 (talk) 17:46, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Moved to June 15th, as that's when the articles were are started.--Bedford Pray 17:39, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Huh? Moved back to June 16 -- page histories show all were created around 3:30 UTC on June 16. Northwesterner1 (talk) 19:45, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length and reference (same as above hook) verified. Daniel Case (talk) 04:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 15

This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues If you're going to give an online citation for a book, you should either link to the page with the actual cite or provide the relevant quote in the footnote. Daniel Case (talk) 02:59, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Date and length verified, but the hook doesn't have proper citation. Mindmatrix 14:29, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, should be a DNB inline cite there, I will add it now - Dumelow (talk) 14:53, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I can't access that paper - it's behind a paywall and registration system. I'll let someone with access to the Oxford DNB verify the claim. Mindmatrix 14:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 14

How is a 2005 Royal tour in the 20th century? Especially when it isn't even in the article. Daniel Case (talk) 02:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think he meant to link to Royal tours of Canada, where the 21st century sub-section is located at the bottom. --G2bambino (talk) 03:54, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Which, in any case, isn't eligible as it's too old. Daniel Case (talk) 08:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article explains why that is well known to be impossible, but it leaves me with obvious questions unanswered: Is the car for sale using that claim? If so, why haven't they been arrested? Art LaPella (talk) 22:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Article has an editorializing, OR-ish tone, and I'm not sure if it accurately reproduces the company's claims. Gatoclass (talk) 11:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article has a real negative tone. It is written opposing the company, for it repeatedly mentions how the engine can't work as advertised. If that gets cleaned up, it might be worthy of saving this article for next year's April Fool's main page since the car violates the First Law of Thermodynamics. I'll place the suggestion there and we can evaluate the article's condition then. Maybe more information will be available. Royalbroil 19:26, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Roots? I'd have thought that builders of Egyptian pyramids and the Great Wall of China would have started much earlier than that! Hmmm.... --74.14.16.131 (talk) 13:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I meant experimental physics, not physics in general. How about wording it differently like:
... that experimental physics was developed by medieval Muslim physicists centuries before the Scientific Revolution? Jagged 85 (talk) 02:25, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • A brief comment - this is a very long and well developed article for a new article and I suspect a lot of it may be cut and pasted from other Islamic articles, but I don't have time to check that right now. Gatoclass (talk) 11:20, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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