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{{Infobox Actor
| birthname = Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Jr.
| image = Michael Caine at The Dark Knight Premiere.jpg <!-- only free-content images are allowed for depicting living people - see [[WP:NONFREE]]. Also, the image of the waxwork should not be put here as it does not represent the subject properly -->
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| birthdate = {{birth date and age|1933|3|14}}
| birthplace = [[London]], [[England]]
| yearsactive = 1956 - present
| spouse = [[Patricia Haines]] (1955-1958)<br>[[Shakira Caine|Shakira Baksh]] (1973-present)
| academyawards = '''[[Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor|Best Supporting Actor]]'''<br>1986 ''[[Hannah and Her Sisters]]''<br>1999 ''[[The Cider House Rules]]''
| baftaawards = '''[[BAFTA Award for Best Actor in a Leading Role|Best Actor in a Leading Role]]'''<br>1983 ''[[Educating Rita]]'' <br> '''Britannia Award'''<br>1990 Excellence in Film <br> '''[[BAFTA Academy Fellowship Award|Academy Fellowship]]'''<br>2000
| goldenglobeawards = '''[[Golden Globe Award for Best Actor - Motion Picture Musical or Comedy|Best Actor - Motion Picture Musical or Comedy]]'''<br>1983 ''[[Educating Rita]]''<br>1998 ''[[Little Voice]]'' <br> '''[[Golden Globe Award for Best Performance by an Actor in a Mini-Series or Motion Picture Made for Television|Best Actor - Miniseries or TV Movie]]'''<br>1988 ''[[Jack the Ripper]]''
| sagawards = '''[[Screen Actors Guild Award for Outstanding Performance by a Male Actor in a Supporting Role - Motion Picture|Outstanding Supporting Actor - Motion Picture]]'''<br>1999 ''[[The Cider House Rules]]''
| awards = '''[[National Board of Review Award for Best Cast|NBR Award for Best Cast]]'''<br>2001 ''[[Last Orders]]''
}}


'''Sir Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Jr.''', [[Order of the British Empire|CBE]] (born [[March 14, 1933]]), better known by his [[Stage name|screen name]] '''Michael Caine''', is an [[Academy Award|Oscar]]- and [[BAFTA]]-winning [[England|English]] [[film]] [[actor]] who has appeared in more than one hundred films.<ref>[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000323/awards Michael Caine (I) - Awards<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
[[User talk:Deor/Archive1]] (12/2006–12/2007)<br>
[[User talk:Deor/Archive2]] (1/2008–6/2008)


==Gods==
==Biography==
===Early life===
Why did you undo the roman names of the gods I put in brackets beside their greek counterparts?
Caine was born in [[Rotherhithe]], South East [[London]], the son of Ellen Frances Marie ([[married and maiden names|née]] Burchell), a cook and [[charlady]], and Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Sr., a fish market porter.<ref>[http://www.filmreference.com/film/90/Michael-Caine.html Michael Caine Biography (1933-)<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> Caine's father was [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]], though Caine was raised in his [[Protestant]] mother's religion.<ref>[http://www.aboutfilm.com/features/statement/caine.htm Profile and Interview: Michael Caine<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>


==Death==
([[User:Coffeewhite|Coffeewhite]] ([[User talk:Coffeewhite|talk]]) 21:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC))
He lived a good life, but sadly passed away on July 21, 2008 while lighting his farts to impress gypsies.


The Caines are descended from Romanichal Gypsies and are known to throw reunion parties.
==Wrong user==


He grew up in [[Camberwell]], attending [[Wilson's School]] (at that time Wilson's Grammar School) and during [[World War II]] was [[Evacuations of civilians in Britain during World War II|evacuated]] to [[North Runcton]] in [[Norfolk]].<ref>*[http://www.runctonweb.co.uk/mcaine.html Michael Caine's Norfolk childhood]</ref> In 1944 he passed his [[eleven-plus]] exam. He left school at sixteen after gaining four [[O-Level]]s and did his [[National Service]] from April 1952 to 1954 in the [[Royal Fusiliers]], serving in [[Germany]] and in combat in the [[Korean War]].
I have not created article [[List of Roman Emperors born in Serbia]] but nationalistic SPA account [[user:KaiSuTeknonBrute]]. My only job has been moving article to another name, so you can delete article--[[User:Rjecina|Rjecina]] ([[User talk:Rjecina|talk]]) 03:43, 4 July 2008 (UTC)




== BC AND AD ==
==I am Coming out gay on Wikipedia==
I knew you all would be here because of the Michael Caine is dead thing. So I decided to tell you all that I am coming out of the closet. I am a full fleged faggot. Now I'm off to go to a bathhouse.


===Acting career===
The reason I changed this is because simply he was a Roman and Greek and Italy and Greece use the AD and BC system.
When Caine first became an actor, he adopted the [[stage name]] "Michael Scott". His agent soon informed him, however, that another actor was already using the same name, and that he had to come up with a new name immediately. Speaking to his agent from a telephone box in [[Leicester Square]] in [[London]], Caine looked around for inspiration, noted that ''[[The Caine Mutiny (film)|The Caine Mutiny]]'' was being shown at the Odeon Cinema, and decided to change his name to "Michael Caine". He has joked in interviews that had he looked the other way, he would have ended up as "Michael [[One Hundred and One Dalmatians]]".<ref>[http://film.guardian.co.uk/interview/interviewpages/0,,445597,00.html Michael Caine (I) | Interviews | guardian.co.uk Film<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>


Caine's acting career began in [[Horsham]], [[West Sussex]]. He responded to an advertisement for an assistant stage manager for the Horsham-based Westminster Repertory Company. This led to walk-on roles at the Carfax Theatre.<ref>[http://www.hiddenhorsham.co.uk/30/electrictheatre.htm Horsham Carfax Electric Theatre - Hidden Horsham<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> After several minor roles, Caine came into the public eye as an upper-class British army officer in the 1964 film ''[[Zulu (film)|Zulu]]''. This proved paradoxical, as Caine was to become notable for using a [[Regional accents of English speakers|regional accent]], rather than the [[received pronunciation]] hitherto considered proper for film actors. At the time, Caine's [[working-class]] [[cockney]], just as with [[The Beatles]]' [[Liverpudlian]] accents, stood out to American and British audiences alike. ''Zulu'' was closely followed by two of his best-known roles: the spy [[Harry Palmer]] in ''[[The Ipcress File (film)|The Ipcress File]]'' (1965), and the woman-chasing title character in ''[[Alfie (1966 film)|Alfie]]'' (1966). He went on to play Palmer in a further four films, ''[[Funeral in Berlin (film)|Funeral in Berlin]]'' (1966), ''[[Billion-Dollar Brain]]'' (1967), ''[[Bullet to Beijing (film)|Bullet to Beijing]]'' (1995) and ''[[Midnight in St. Petersburg(film)|Midnight in St. Petersburg]]'' (1995). Caine made his first movie in the [[United States]] in 1966, after an invitation from Shirley MacLaine to play opposite her in ''[[Gambit (film)|Gambit]].'' During the first two weeks, whilst staying at the [[Beverly Hills Hotel]], he met long term friends [[John Wayne]] and agent [[Irving Paul Lazar|"Swifty" Lazar]].<ref>[http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article2006928.ece Best of Times, Worst of Times: Michael Caine - Times Online<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref>
Also why not just change the dates back why also delete all the names?


After ending the 1960s with the equally iconic ''[[The Italian Job]]'', with [[Noel Coward]], and a solid role as an RAF fighter pilot, Squadron Leader Canfield, in the all-star cast of ''[[Battle of Britain (film)|Battle of Britain]]'' (1969), Caine entered the 1970s with ''[[Get Carter]]'', a British gangster film. Caine was busy throughout the 1970s, with successes including ''[[Sleuth (1972 film)|Sleuth]]'' (1972), opposite [[Sir Laurence Olivier]] and ''[[The Man Who Would Be King (film)|The Man Who Would Be King]]'' (1975), costarring [[Sean Connery]] and directed by the legendary [[John Huston]]. By the end of the decade, he had moved to the U.S., but his choice of roles was beginning to be criticised; he admitted to and has since made many self-deprecating comments about taking parts in numerous movies he knew to be bad strictly for the money. Caine was averaging two films a year, but these included such failures as ''[[The Swarm (film)|The Swarm]]'' (1978), ''[[Beyond the Poseidon Adventure]]'' (1979), ''[[The Island (1980 film)|The Island]]'' (1980) and ''[[The Hand (film)|The Hand]]'' (1981). Although Caine also took better roles, including a [[BAFTA]]-winning turn in ''[[Educating Rita (film)|Educating Rita]]'' (1983) and an [[Academy Award|Oscar]]-winning one in ''[[Hannah and Her Sisters]]'' (1986), he continued to appear in notorious duds like ''[[Jaws: The Revenge]]'' (1987) and ''[[Bullseye!]]'' (1990); his appearing in so many bad films made him the butt of numerous jokes on the subject. Of the former, Caine famously said "I have never seen the film, but by all accounts it was terrible. However I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.tiscali.co.uk/entertainment/film/biographies/michael_caine_biog/25|title=Michael Caine Biography|publisher=Tiscali}}</ref>
Also you need to stop acting like you are one of wikipedia's staff because you are not.


The 1990s were a lean time for Caine, as he found good parts harder to come by. His early '90s output included playing Ebenezer Scrooge in the whimsical ''[[Muppet Christmas Carol]]'' (1992), a villain in the [[Steven Seagal]] flop ''[[On Deadly Ground]]'' (1994), two [[straight to video]] Harry Palmer sequels and a few [[television movie]]s. However, Caine's reputation as a [[pop icon]] was still intact, thanks to his roles in films such as ''The Italian Job'' and ''Get Carter''. His performance in 1998's ''[[Little Voice (film)|Little Voice]]'' was seen as something of a return to form, and won him a [[Golden Globe Award]]. Better parts followed, including ''[[The Cider House Rules (film)|The Cider House Rules]]'' (1999), for which he won his second Oscar, ''[[Last Orders (film)|Last Orders]]'' (2001), ''[[The Quiet American (2002 film)|The Quiet American]]'' (2002) and others which helped rehabilitate his reputation. Several of Caine's classic films have been [[remake|remade]] to appeal to new, younger audiences, including ''The Italian Job'', ''Get Carter'', ''Alfie'' and ''Sleuth,'' the latter with Caine taking over the role [[Laurence Olivier]] played in the 1972 version and [[Jude Law]] playing Caine's original role. In 2005, he was cast as [[Bruce Wayne]]'s butler [[Alfred Pennyworth]] in the [[Batman Begins|Batman film series]]. In 2006, he appeared in the films ''[[Children of Men]]'' and ''[[The Prestige (film)|The Prestige]]''.
([[User:Coffeewhite|Coffeewhite]] ([[User talk:Coffeewhite|talk]]) 18:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC))


Caine has been Oscar-nominated six times, winning his first [[Academy Awards|Academy Award]] for the 1986 film ''Hannah and Her Sisters'', and his second in 1999 for ''The Cider House Rules'', in both cases as a supporting actor. He was appointed [[Order of the British Empire|Commander of the Order of the British Empire]] (CBE) in 1993 for services to drama, and in 2000 he was [[Knight Bachelor|knighted]] as ''Sir Maurice Micklewhite, CBE''.<ref>[http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/ViewGazetteDocument.aspx?src=search&atdocid=368521&pg=1&GeoType=London&st=basic&all=Maurice%20Micklewhite Official announcement knighthood.] [[The London Gazette]]. [[2 March]] [[2001]].</ref> Unlike many actors who adopt their [[stage name]] for everyday use, Caine still uses his real name when he is not working.
==Is Deor out to lunch ?==


Caine is a popular subject for [[impressionist (entertainment)|impressionist]]s and [[mimic]]s, having a voice and manner of speaking that are distinctive, yet fairly easy to imitate. Most Caine impressions include the catchphrase "Not a lot of people know that." [[Peter Sellers]] initiated this when he appeared on [[BBC One|BBC1]]'s ''[[Michael Parkinson|Parkinson]]'' show on [[28 October]] [[1972]] and said: "Not many people know that. This is my Michael Caine impression. You see, Mike's always quoting from the [[Guinness Book of Records]]. At the drop of a hat he'll trot one out. 'Did you know that it takes a man in a tweed suit five and a half seconds to fall from the top of Big Ben to the ground? Now there's not many people know that!'"
Here Logicus posts a serious query about Deor's fitness to be meddling with Wikipedia articles that is posted on the Celestial Spheres Talk page, for a serious answer by Deor that he has not provided in spite or repeated challenges to do so.


In 1983, Caine was given the line to say as an in-joke in the film ''[[Educating Rita (film)|Educating Rita]]''. The line was parodied in ''[[Harry Enfield's Television Programme]]'' by [[Paul Whitehouse]], who introduced himself with the line "My name is Michael Paine, and I am a nosey neighbour."


Caine is one of only two actors to be nominated for an Academy Award for acting (either lead or supporting) in every decade since the 1960s. The other is [[Jack Nicholson]].
:::'''Police Constable Deor ? Logicus says No !'''


He also starred in ''[[Austin Powers: Goldmember]]'' as Austin's Father. On [[16 December]] [[2007]], Caine was the second guest on [[Michael Parkinson]]'s Final Conversation.
:::Imperious User Deor has elected to set himself up as Police Constable Wikipedian who polices Wikipedia and reports breaches of what he imagines to be its rules and breaches of its rules to its administrators. Here we present Deor's latest arrogant imperious mistaken comments posted to Logicus's User Talk page for everybody to read


===Personal life===
:::"[edit] Celestial spheres redux
Caine lives near [[Leatherhead]] in [[Surrey]], and is patron to the Leatherhead Drama Festival.<ref>[http://www.leatherheaddramafestival.org/home.html Welcome to the Leatherhead Drama Festival 2008 - This is the fifth Leatherhead Drama Festival (LDF) and we are proud of our achievement. When so many Arts activities are failing or at least contracting, the LDF is growing from strength to strength<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> He has also lived in [[North Stoke, Oxfordshire|North Stoke]], [[Oxfordshire]], [[Clewer]] near [[Windsor, Berkshire|Windsor]], [[Berkshire]], and [[Chelsea Harbour]] in [[London]]. In addition, Caine owns a penthouse in [[Miami Beach, Florida]]. Also there are many idiots on the dark knight board who have nothing more to do with there life other than joke about death. GET A LIFE. Losers.
:::I'm going to revert your additions and deletions once again. Repeatedly adding material that is not relevant to the article's topic and, in essence, constitutes an original synthesis of material in primary sources is disruptive and impermissible in Wikipedia. Any further disruption at this article will be brought up at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, as you have repeatedly attempted to insert your original research and personal interpretations of historical sources into multiple articles. This is an encyclopedia that relies on information gleaned from secondary sources, not a forum for posting what appears to individuals to be "logically" inferrable from the historical record. Deor (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2008 (UTC)


He was married to actress [[Patricia Haines]] from 1955 to 1958; they had one daughter, Dominique. Caine has been married to actress and model [[Shakira Caine|Shakira Baksh]] since [[January 8]], [[1973]]. They have a daughter named Natasha.<ref>http://www.michaelcaine.com/Dates.htm Michael Caine's Important dates </ref>
:::Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Logicus" "


Some time after his mother died, Caine and his younger brother, [[Stanley Caine |Stanley]], learned they had an elder half-brother, named David. He suffered from severe [[epilepsy]] and had been kept in Cane Hill Mental hospital his entire life. Although their mother regularly visited her first son in hospital, even her husband did not know the child existed. David died in 1992.<ref>[http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/577:584/1/Michael_Caine.htm The Biography Channel: Michael Caine]</ref>
:::But on the cardinal issue here of relevance, it should be self-evident to one and all that any material on the causes of the motions of the celestial spheres, such as the theory of Buridan, is of absolutely central relevance to any article on the celestial spheres and their motions. And yet Wiki User Deor repeatedly seeks to deny this, and under repeated challenge to provide any rational justification for this unjustifiable POV, repeatedly fails to do so. Why is this ? Should User Deor be banned from meddling with Wikipedia articles because of his severe anti-educational tendency. [Watch this space !] '''Logicus'''


Caine is a fan of the [[football (soccer)|football]] team [[Chelsea FC]]<ref>[http://chelsea2.chelseafc.co.uk/yourchelsea/frame_celebs.htm Your Chelsea: Celebrity Fans]</ref>
== Thanks ==


Trivia books written by Caine include ''Not Many People Know That!'', ''And Not Many People Know This Either!'', ''Michael Caine's Moving Picture Show'' and ''Not A Lot of People Know This is 1988''. Proceeds from the books went to the [[National Playing Fields Association]] (now Fields In Trust) of which Caine was a prominent supporter.
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) -- [[User:Gogo Dodo|Gogo Dodo]] ([[User talk:Gogo Dodo|talk]]) 05:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)


===Musical career===
==Is Deor wrong about Ptolemy's alleged instrumentalism ?==
Caine is a fan of [[chillout]] music and to that end has compiled a mix CD called ''[[Cained]]'' which was released in 2007 by [[UMTV]].<ref>[http://www.umtv.co.uk/release.php?id=524 UMTV<!-- Bot generated title -->]</ref> According to Michael Caine, he met with Elton John, and was discussing musical tastes, when Caine claimed that he had been creating chillout mix tapes as an amateur for years.<ref>[http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article2174336.ece Michael Caine to release chill-out album] Times Online, accessed 2007-07-31</ref> Also in music, Caine provided vocal samples for British band [[Madness (band)|Madness]] for their 1984 hit [[Michael Caine (song)|Michael Caine]] as his daughter was a fan. He has sung in movie roles as well, including for the musical movie, the [[Muppet Christmas Carol]].


==Filmography==
In connection with Logicus's 27 June proposed deletion of the [[Celestial spheres]] article's
{{main|Michael Caine filmography}}
following claim


==Awards and nominations==
“Through the use of the epicycle, eccentric, and equant, this model of compound circular motions could account for all the irregularities of a planet's apparent movements in the sky.[7][8]
===Academy Awards===
*1966 - Nominated - [[Academy Award for Best Actor|Best Actor in a Leading Role]] - ''[[Alfie (1966 film)|Alfie]]''
*1972 - Nominated - Best Actor in a Leading Role - ''[[Sleuth (1972 film)|Sleuth]]''
*1983 - Nominated - Best Actor in a Leading Role - ''[[Educating Rita (film)|Educating Rita]]''
*'''1986 - Won - [[Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor|Best Actor in a Supporting Role]] - ''[[Hannah and Her Sisters]]'''''
*'''1999 - Won - Best Actor in a Supporting Role - ''[[The Cider House Rules (film)|The Cider House Rules]]'''''
*2002 - Nominated - Best Actor in a Leading Role - ''[[The Quiet American (2002 film)|The Quiet American]]''


===Other awards===
as either false or meaningless and its replacement with a meaningful and historically truthful assessment of Ptolemy's achievement, on the 22nd of June in [[Celestial spheres Talk]], you claimed it is a possibility "that Ptolemy, for one, didn't devote much thought to the problems and consequences associated with positing the physical existence of spheres, epicyles, etc. Deor (talk) 18:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)"
*[[New York Film Critics Circle Awards|New York Film Critics']] Best Actor Award for ''[[Alfie (1966 film)|Alfie]]''
*[[British Academy of Film and Television Arts|BAFTA]] for Best Actor for ''[[Educating Rita (film)|Educating Rita]]''
*[[Golden Globe Award|Golden Globe]] for Best Actor for ''[[Educating Rita (film)|Educating Rita]]''
*''[[GQ]]'' Man of the Year - Lifetime Achievement Award
*Golden Globe for Best Actor for ''[[Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (film)|Dirty Rotten Scoundrels]]''
*Golden Globe for Best Actor for ''[[Jack the Ripper]]''<ref>{{citeweb|url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095388/|title=Jack the Ripper (1988) (TV)|accessdate=2007-03-31}}</ref>
*Golden Globe for Best Actor for ''[[Little Voice (film)|Little Voice]]''


==References==
Logicus then pointed out to you that it seems this is not a possibility on the evidence of Ptolemy's ''Planetary Hypotheses'', and also provided a quotation from the Introduction of Langermann's 1990 English language edition of Alhazen's ''Configuration of the World'' , which quotes Ptolemy's views in his Planetary Hypotheses on the two possible physical forms of the celestial bodies, as follows:
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{{Reflist}}


==External links==
"In Book II [of ''Planetary Hypotheses''] Ptolemy undertakes to establish the shapes of the bodies that carry out the heavenly motions....He states
*[http://www.michaelcaine.com/ The Official Michael Caine Website]
*{{imdb|0000323}}
*[http://www.western-locations-spain.com/almeria-top-20/playdirty/index.htm PLAY DIRTY/Caine Special on Location in Spain]
*[http://www.hiddenhorsham.co.uk/30/electrictheatre.htm Carfax Theatre] [[Horsham]] Scene of Sir Michael's first professional acting role
*[http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/film/article2856533.ece Martyn Palmer, ''Double act: Michael Caine and Jude Law (lunch and discussion),'' The Times, [[17 November]] [[2007]]]


'For each of these motions, which are different in quantity or kind, there is a body that moves freely on poles and in space and which has a special place...'


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Ptolemy then postulates two possible paths of approach to the physical explanation of the workings of the cosmos.
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{{Persondata
'The first of them is to assign a whole sphere to each motion, either hollow like the spheres that surround each other or the earth, or solid and not hollow like those which do not contain anything other than the thing [itself], namely those that set the stars in motion and are called epicyclic orbs. The other way is that we set aside for each one of the motions not a whole sphere but only a section (qitcah) of a sphere. This section lies on the two sides of the largest circle which is in that sphere, namely that from which the motion is longitude [is taken]. That which this section closes from the two sides is [equal to] the amount of latitude. Thus the shape (shakl) of this section, when taken from an epicyclic orb, is similar to a tambourine (duff). When taken from the hollow sphere, it is similar to a belt (nitaq), an armband (siwar) or a whorl (fulkah), as Plato said. Mathematical investigation shows that there is no difference between these two ways that we have described.' [Nix 113:16-33 Goldstein 37:9-17]
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|PLACE OF BIRTH= [[Rotherhithe]], [[London]], [[UK]]
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{{BD|1933||Caine, Michael}}
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[[ar:مايكل كين]]
However, as per usual when confronted by Logicus with rational arguments against your errors and invalid reasoning against Logicus's contributions and your unjustifiable deletions of them, you have not responded by either retracting your claim or else defending it against Logicus's refutation of it.
[[bn:মাইকেল কেইন]]

[[be-x-old:Майкл Кейн]]
In the first instance Logicus would be grateful if you would be courteous and civil enough to either withdraw your claim or defend it here or else on the Talk page.
[[bg:Майкъл Кейн]]

[[cy:Michael Caine]]
In the second instance, Logicus would like to know your possible justification for deleting Logicus's posting of Langermann's book in the article's Bibliography, which was
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[[de:Michael Caine]]
'Langermann, Y. Tzvi ''Ibn al Haytham's On the Configuration of the World'' New York: Garland Publishing, 1990'
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[[eo:Michael Caine]]
Note this book is also cited by McCluskey in the article, and should therefore surely be listed in the Bibliography at least for that reason, even if you do not like Logicus quoting it to challenge McCluskey's interpretation of Ptolemy as being inconsistent on the form of the celestial bodies.
[[eu:Michael Caine]]

[[fa:مایکل کین]]
The practical purpose of this reasonable request is to clear the way for the article's improvement at least in respect of the assessment of Ptolemy's achievement, and towards that end to stem what Logicus regards as the destructive and counter-educational editing of such as yourself and McCluskey.
[[fr:Michael Caine]]
--[[User:Logicus|Logicus]] ([[User talk:Logicus|talk]]) 17:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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[[id:Michael Caine]]
==User Deor uncivilly transgresses Wikipedia courtesy requirements==
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[[he:מייקל קיין]]
Logicus would be grateful for a rational response from Deor on the following issue raised in Celestial spheres Talk on 7 July.
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[[nl:Michael Caine]]
User Deor has yet again restored the following untenable claim in the Celestial spheres article first deleted by Logicus on 27 June after demonstrating it was either false or meaningless:
[[ja:マイケル・ケイン]]

[[no:Michael Caine]]
"Through the use of the epicycle, eccentric, and equant, this model of compound circular motions could account for all the irregularities of a planet's apparent movements in the sky.[7][8]"
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[[pt:Michael Caine]]
without providing any justifying quotation for this claim from the justifying sources given, as courteously requested by Logicus here on 28 June in Talk as follows:
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[[ru:Майкл Кейн]]
"User Deor has restored this false or meaningless claim deleted by Logicus without any justification. Even if somebody does make this bizarre claim, it does not mean it should therefore be repeated in Wikipedia. But in the first instance I propose Deor should provide the actual quotation from the source supplied that actually makes this bizarre claim, to see whether it does justify it.. One often finds with Wikipedia history of science sources for claims made that they do not justify the claim made because the author has misinterpreted what they actually said. I shall delete the claim again until it is reliably justified, but which of course it cannot be essentially because it is blatantly false. --Logicus (talk) 17:35, 28 June 2008 (UTC)"
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[[sk:Michael Caine]]
Thus Deor is apparently in breach of the courtesy requirement stipulated in the second and third paragraphs of the following Wikipedia rules for Verifiability in reliable sources
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The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged should be attributed to a reliable, published source using an inline citation.[1] "

Logicus would be grateful for Deor's compliance with these courtesy requirements, especially noting that Logicus has repeatedly shown Deor's friend McCluskey's cited sources do not justify the claims he makes, whereby McCluskey stands exposed as committing Original Research and breaching NPOV in such cases. In one recent major blunder in this respect, in the Scientific Revolution article's Talk page on 18 April McCluskey tried his usual stunt of insinuating or accusing Logicus's corrections of his untenable POV handiwork breach NPOV because Logicus had pointed out Aristotle did not maintain all motion requires an external force but only violent motion, contrary to McCluskey's claim that Aristotle did according to Stillman Drake. Thereupon Logicus had to quote the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on Aristotle at McCluskey before he would accept Logicus was right and he and Drake as reported were wrong. The triumvirate of Deor, McCluskey and Ragesoss would do well to study this episode as a powerful illustration of how it is they, not Logicus, who impose POVs and Original Research in Wikipedia history of science articles, whilst making insulting unjustified accusations of such against Logicus who challenges them.

Will the outcome be similar in this case ? Will Deor manage to find some textual quotation that shows some historians of science do indeed hold this manifestly mistaken view ?
--[[User:Logicus|Logicus]] ([[User talk:Logicus|talk]]) 17:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

==Deor on God==

Whether you imagine yourself to be God herself, or else at the very least an expert and authoritative theologian, your claim in [[Celestial spheres]] Talk of 24 February that God is nowhere in your negative comment on Logicus's query of that same date, namely that

“As you probably know, God isn't in any "place"; note "beyond physical existence" in the sentences you've quoted from the article.”

at least conflicts with the article's current claim that in the middle ages

"Christian and Muslim philosophers modified Ptolemy's system to include an unmoved outermost region, which was the dwelling place of God and all the elect."

Clearly if God is nowhere, then the restricted outermost region can hardly be his dwelling place.

Thus either the article is currently mistaken or you are.

Which is it?

Moreover your C.S. Lewis quotation does not establish God was nowhere in medieval cosmology, as you seem tro imagine it does.

But really, I don't reckon you really know where God is any more than silly old Logicus does, even though Logicus is one of God's favourite philosophers (-:

--[[User:Logicus|Logicus]] ([[User talk:Logicus|talk]]) 17:23, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

==Deor on Love==

On 24 February last you challenged Logicus's claim that Aristotle's cosmology was the scientific origin of the well-known saying 'Love makes the world go round.' as follows:

“…the extremely unlikely "[Aristotle’s cosmology] is the scientific historical origin of the popular saying 'Love makes the world go round'" is unacceptable without some source other than your say-so.

But far from regarding Logicus’s claim as extremely unlikely, the anti Duhemian American historian of medieval science Edward Grant, who your mentor McCluskey regards as one of his mentors on the history of medieval science and advocates as a good starting point on the physics of the celestial spheres, says

"Although it is by no means certain that Aristotle is the ultimate source of these poetic sentiments [that 'Love makes the world go round'], he is surely a - if not the - leading candidate." [p67 The Foundations of Modern Science in the Middle Ages ]

Surely yet again Deor this reveals your apparent ignorance of the subject matter on which you seek to pontificate and educate Logicus on ? And does it not suggest to you that maybe the cause of your unjustified accusations that Logicus indulges in OR is rather maybe only a reflection of your own ignorance of the subject matter and its literature rather than reflecting any truth ?

Your observations here are invited on whether your holiness thinks I may restore something like what you deleted in one of your many educationally destructive edits, rather than more modestly just requesting a citation.
--[[User:Logicus|Logicus]] ([[User talk:Logicus|talk]]) 17:42, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

== Astrology ==

I see the subject interests you. I don't know if this is from an observers POV or as a practitioner, but in 1976 when I held a vigil at the Liberty Memorial Mall in Kansas City after the Republican National Convention (Ref: Kathleen Patterson, 'Prophet Chooses Park for Vigil', The Kansas City Times, 13 September, 1976, pg 3A and Robert W. Butler, 'Prophet Plans Appeal of Conviction', The Kansas City Times, 2 November, 1976) I enjoyed frequent access to drop into the studio of a local night radio talk show. One time an astrologist by the name of Gars Austin was on the line from Texas giving brief chart readings based only on the birth date of callers. Coming up to a news break and not knowing me, from the studio I asked if he could do a more in depth reading based on my birth at 8am Sunday morning in Montreal May 21, 1944. The talk show host, the listeners and I were amazed with what he came back with. I asked if the charts showed anything significant around February 1, 1975 the date of my Spiritual resurrection. He didn't know anything about that. We were all surprised when he said, "According to my chart, on that date you had a very powerful Spiritual experience." From that time I had to give more credence to what is written in the stars. Peace [[User:DoDaCanaDa|DoDaCanaDa]] ([[User talk:DoDaCanaDa|talk]]) 13:31, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

==Logicus refutes Deor's accusations of irrelevancy and Original Research in 'Celestial spheres' ==

You have unjustifiably thrice deleted important additions on the impetus dynamics of the spheres to the 'Celestial spheres' article contributed by Logicus, these being additions on the centrally important topic of the causes of their motion posited in the middle ages by the Parisian impetus dynamics tradition.

You have done so on two separate grounds, namely that according to you

(i) material on the impetus dynamics of the spheres generally is not relevant to the article's topic and

(ii) the particular material Logicus added "in essence, constitutes an original synthesis of material in primary sources [that] is disruptive and impermissible in Wikipedia". This is allegedly an example of your unsubstantiated allegation of Logicus that "you have repeatedly attempted to insert your original research and personal interpretations of historical sources into multiple articles.", but of which sin you provided no other alleged example of such.

And you then magisterially further informed Logicus that

"This is an encyclopedia that relies on information gleaned from secondary sources, not a forum for posting what appears to individuals to be "logically" inferrable from the historical record." [Does "the historical record" here mean 'primary sources', or is it something different ?]

Now with respect to this last claim, for the moment I shall leave it as an exercise for you to demonstrate for yourself how it is grossly false as a descriptive thesis about Wikipedia, and how to the contrary it extensively relies on information also gleaned from primary sources and is an extensive forum for posting what appears to individuals to be "logically" inferable from the historical record.

Here Logicus is only concerned to demonstrate how your above two claims are grossly mistaken, and also how you have discourteously failed to respond to my refutation of the first of them, but instead yet again just deleted the added material in spite of it having been robustly demonstrated that it is centrally relevant to the article on the very criterion of relevance that you yourself asserted to justify its exclusion.

'''1) Refuting Deor's assertion that (i) 'material on the impetus dynamics of the spheres generally is not relevant to the article's topic''''

The criterion of relevance you asserted on 20 June was as follows, with my caps for logical emphasis for the extremely hard of understanding:

:"The article should deal with exactly what its title implies—the spheres, their NATURES, and their history in human thought—not the theories of impetus or inertia or the details of planetary motions."

On 22 June Logicus refuted this claim that what is implied by the article's title does not include dealing with the impetus dynamics or inertia of the spheres or the details of planetary motion, by demonstrating how to the contrary your own criterion that you claim is implied by the article's title must in fact include them, as follows:

:"WRONG. Both the theories of inertia and of impetus are exactly of central relevance to the issue of the NATURES of the spheres, namely to whether they have inertia in their NATURES as an essential inherent resistance to motion, and to whether they have essentially divine NATURES with souls that move them around or only accidental internal impetus which assimilates them to the NATURE of inanimate terrestrial physics such as projectile motion. And the details of planetary motions are crucial to whether the spheres intersect or not, and thus what their physical NATURE must be e.g. solid or fluid and whether interpenetrable."

So on your own criterion of relevance, which includes dealing with the NATURES of the spheres, the article must therefore deal with the impetus dynamics of the spheres in respect of its analysis of their NATURES.

It may further interest you to know that the impetus dynamics of the spheres was of central relevance to one of the important questions of medieval celestial physics listed by McCluskey's mentor Edward Grant in his list of such questions that Logicus posted in the article, but which you unjustifiably deleted in yet another of your educationally destructive edits, namely

:"Are the spheres moved by intelligences, angels, forms or souls, or by some principle inherent in their very matter ?"

Then on 27 June Logicus gave a further refutation of the Deor thesis that the impetus dynamics of the spheres is irrelevant to an article about them by reference to an example of how to the contrary it is regarded as of relevance for inclusion in the academic literature on the celestial spheres, and in particular by reference to an example from Edward Grant again, whose works Deor's friend McCluskey recommends as a good starting point for learning about the physics of the celestial spheres in the medieval period. Logicus kindly advised Deor as follows:

:"For a 'scholarly' precedent in the inclusion of discussion of the issue of impetus dynamical explanations of the motions of the celestial spheres in discussions of the medieval physics of the spheres, Deor may wish to consult that American author much favoured by McCluskey, Edward Grant, in his 1996 The Foundations of Modern Science in the Middle Ages. Discussion of Buridan’s impetus mechanics of the spheres is included in its section on the physics of the celestial region ‘The Celestial Region: The causes of celestial motion.’ on page 112.--Logicus (talk) 16:14, 27 June 2008 (UTC)"

Logicus now presents what Grant says in this discussion, since it seems Deor cannot have read it, and also to show clearly how Deor's view that impetus dynamics is irrelevant to discussion of medieval debates about the celestial spheres is his own untenable idiosyncratic personal POV which he should not impose upon the article by deleting contributions about it.

:"''Internal movers''. A few natural philosophers rejected intelligences as celestial movers and sought the cause of celestial motions in impersonal internal forces. Already in the thirteenth century, John Blund and Robert Kilwardy argued that each celestial orb possessed a natural, instrinsic capability for self-motion, an opinion that might have come directly from Aristotle. By contrast with the vague, innate capacity postulated by Blund and Kilwardy, John Buridan applied his well-quantified impressed force, or impetus, theory to explain celestial motions. Because the Bible made no mention of intelligences as celestial movers, Buridan dispensed with them and assumed that at the creation God impressed incorporeal forces, or quantities of impetus into each orb. In the absence of external resistances and contrary tendencies in the heavens, the impressed impetus of an orb would remain constant and move its orb with uniform circular motion forever.

:''Internal and external movers combined.'' Even before John Buridan offered his explanation, Franciscus de Marchia (ca.1290-d. after 1344) combined angels and impressed forces to explain celestial motions. Sometime around 1320, Franciscus assumed that an angel moved its orb by impressing a certain power (virtus impressa) into it. Thus, instead of the motive power operating within the angel or intelligence, Franciscus has the angel impressing a motive force into the orb with which it is associated. The impressed force then moves the orb directly. Franciscus de Marchia's solution was destined for further debate by scholastic authors in the sixteenth and seventeenth century. The influential Coimbra Jesuits adopted it in their commentary on Aristotle's ''On The Heavens'' in 1592."

Logicus now also quotes Grant's discussion of both impetus and also inertial resistance in the spheres from the 'Celestial movers' section of his 1978 'Cosmology' article in Lindberg's reader ''Science in the Middle Ages'', since it not only again refutes Deor's untenable POV that impetus dynamics is irrelevant to reporting medieval discussions of the celestial spheres, but also refutes his and McCluskey's untenable idiosyncratic POV that discussion of inertia is also irrelevant to discussion of the motions of the celestial spheres, since here Grant discusses Oresme's treatment of the inertial resistance of the spheres, which is traditionally seen as prefiguring Newton's qualifying revision of inertial resistance as only resisting change from uniform motion, that is accelerated mtotion, rather than resisting all motion as in the versions of Averroes, Aquinas and Kepler:

:"Not all late medieval explanations of celestial motions relied on intelligences or angels. John Blund and Robert Kilwardy insisted......Another motive source was proposed by Buridan when he suggested that perhaps "one could imagine that it is unnecessary to posit intelligences as the movers of celestial bodies since the Holy Scriptures do not inform us that intelligences must be posited. For it could be said that when God created the celestial spheres, He began to move each of them as He wished, and they are still moved by the impetus which He gave them because, there being no resistance, the impetus is neither corrupted nor diminished.

:[[Oresme]], for whom angels were the intelligences that moved the celestial orbs, also suggested [in ''The book of the heavens and of the world'' p289], without elaboration, that when God created heavens, "He put into them motive qualities and powers just as He put weight and resistance against these motive powers in earthly things. These powers and resistances are different in nature and substance from any sensible things or quality here below. The powers against the resistances are moderated in such a way, so tempered and so harmonised, that the movements are made without violence; thus, violence excepted, the situation is much like that of a man making a clock and letting it run and continue its own motion by itself." In the same treatise, Oresme also identified the celestial motive force as a "corporeal quality" within the orb itself which meets resistance only to prevent a more rapid motion."
:[p285-6, 'Cosmology' in ''Science in the Middle Ages'' Lindberg (Ed) 1978.]

Now given these demonstrations that the inclusion of a discussion of the medieval theories of the impetus dynamics of the celestial spheres in the article is both (i) required by Deor's own criterion of relevance since it includes discussion of their NATURES, and that (ii) such discussions are also included in the literature on the physics of the celestial spheres recommended by Deor's adviser McCluskey, Logicus would now like to know whether Deor still maintains a discussion of the medieval impetus dynamics of the spheres is irrelevant to the article on celestial spheres, and if so, on what possible rational ground(s), if any, he does so.

'''2) Refuting Deor's allegation that (ii) the particular material Logicus added "in essence, constitutes an original synthesis of material in primary sources [that] is disruptive and impermissible in Wikipedia"'''

But contrary to this unsubstantiated allegation, Logicus submits it is evident from such as the above quoted secondary source material on impetus dynamics and the spheres from Grant's works that the particular material Logicus added is not an 'in essence an original synthesis of material in primary sources' at least because rather it is essentially to be found in the works of the mentor of Deor's friend McCluskey, namely Edward Grant. McCluskey recommends Grant's works as a good starting point for learning about the medieval physics of the celestial spheres.

More generally, the summary of Parisian impetus dynamics of the spheres Logicus presented is essentially just the standard view of the secondary literature rather than any original synthesis by Logicus. Whilst it is flattering that Deor should attribute the standard view of the secondary literature to an original synthesis of primary sources by Logicus, yet unfortunately for those familiar with this subject matter, in fact Deor's mistaken attribution only raises the whole question of the suitability of McCluskey's choice of watchdog over the article in his absence, and whether somebody apparently so radically unfamiliar with the literature on this subject should be editing this article at all.
[On 5 July Deor wrote to Administrator Ragesoss in [[User talk:Ragesoss]] that "Steve McCluskey e-mailed me to keep an eye on [the Celestial spheres article] while he's taking a wikibreak." <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Logicus|Logicus]] ([[User talk:Logicus|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Logicus|contribs]]) 16:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

So finally here Logicus re-presents what is essentially the 2 July last version of his proposed addition on the impetus dynamics of the spheres to the article, for readers to compare it with Grant's above views on that subject and verify that it essentially just reflects the view of the secondary literature on which it is based, rather than 'in essence constituting an original synthesis of material in primary sources' as Deor mistakenly alleges.

Logicus now invites Deor to either demonstrate his claim that the following text is 'in essence an original synthesis of material in primary sources' within 48 hours, or else desist from any further unagreed deletions of Logicus's contributions to the article on this topic.

'''TEXT'''

'''Parisian impetus dynamics and the celestial spheres'''

In the 14th century the logician and natural philosopher [[Jean Buridan]], Rector of Paris University, subscribed to the [[Avicenna]]n variant of Aristotelian impetus dynamics according to which impetus is conserved forever in the absence of any resistance to motion, rather than being evanescent and self-decaying as in the Hipparchan variant. In order to dispense with the need for positing continually moving intelligences or souls in the celestial spheres, which he pointed out are not posited by the Bible, Buridan applied the Avicennan self-conserving [[impetus theory]] to their endless rotation by extension of a terrestrial example of its application to rotary motion in the form of a rotating millwheel that continues rotating for a long time after the originally propelling hand is withdrawn, driven by the impetus impressed within it.[ref>According to Buridan's theory impetus acts in the same direction or manner in which it was created, and thus a circularly or rotationally created impetus acts circularly thereafter.</ref>

Earlier [[Franciscus de Marchia]] had given a 'part impetus dynamics - part animistic' account of celestial motion in the form of the sphere’s angel continually impressing impetus in its sphere whereby it was moved directly by impetus and only indirectly by its moving angel.[ref>See p112 ''The Foundations of Modern Science in the Middle Ages'' Edward Grant 1996</ref>This hybrid mechanico-animistic explanation was necessitated by the fact that de Marchia only subscribed to the Hipparchan-Philoponan impetus theory in which impetus is self-dissipating rather than self-conserving, and thus would not last forever but need constant renewal even in the absence of any resistance to motion.

But Buridan attributed the cause of the motion of the spheres wholly to impetus as follows:

:"God, when He created the world, moved each of the celestial orbs as He pleased, and in moving them he impressed in them impetuses which moved them without his having to move them any more...And those impetuses which he impressed in the celestial bodies were not decreased or corrupted afterwards, because there was no inclination of the celestial bodies for other movements. Nor was there resistance which would be corruptive or repressive of that impetus."[ref>''Questions on the Eight Books of the Physics of Aristotle'': Book VIII Question 12 English translation in Clagett's 1959 ''Science of Mechanics in the Middle Ages'' p536</ref>

However, having discounted the possibility of any resistance due to a contrary inclination to move in any opposite direction or due to any external resistance, in concluding their impetus was therefore not corrupted by any resistance Buridan also discounted any inherent resistance to motion in the form of an inclination to rest within the spheres themselves, such as the inertia posited by Averroes and Aquinas. For otherwise that resistance would destroy their impetus, as the anti-Duhemian historian of science Annaliese Maier maintained the Parisian impetus dynamicists were forced to conclude because of their belief in an inherent inclinatio ad quietem or inertia in all bodies.[ref>See 'The significance of the theory of impetus for scholastic natural philosophy', Chapter 4 of ''On the threshold of exact science: Selected writings of Annaliese Maier on Late Medieval Natural Philosophy'' Steven Sargent (Ed)University of Pennsylvania Press 1982</ref>But in fact contrary to that inertial variant of Aristotelian dynamics, according to Buridan prime matter does not resist motion.[ref>See e.g. Moody's statement contra Maier "What I have found in Buridan's writings...is the repeated assertion that "prime matter" does not resist motion..." in footnote 7 p32 of his essay ''Galileo and his precursors'' in ''Galileo Reappraised'' Golino (ed) University of California Press 1966</ref>

But this then raised the question within Aristotelian dynamics of why the motive force of impetus does not therefore move the spheres with infinite speed. One impetus dynamics answer seemed to be that it was a secondary kind of motive force that produced uniform motion rather than infinite speed,[ref>The distinction between primary motive forces and secondary motive forces such as impetus was expressed by [[Oresme]], for example, in his ''De Caelo'' Bk2 Qu13, which said of impetus, "it is a certain quality of the second species...; it is generated by the motor by means of motion,.." [See p552 Clagett 1959]. And in 1494 Thomas Bricot of Paris also spoke of impetus as a second quality, and as an instrument which begins motion under the influence of a principal particular agent but which continues it alone. [See p639 Clagett 1959].</ref> just as it seemed Aristotle had supposed the spheres' moving souls do, or rather than uniformly accelerated motion like the primary force of gravity did by producing constantly increasing amounts of impetus.

However in his ''Treatise on the heavens and the world'' in which the heavens are moved by inanimate inherent mechanical forces, Buridan's pupil Oresme offered an alternative 'Thomist' response to this problem in that he did posit a resistance to motion inherent in the heavens (i.e. in the spheres), but which is only a resistance to acceleration beyond their natural speed, rather than to motion itself, and was thus a tendency to preserve their natural speed.[ref>"For the resistance that is in the heavens does not tend to some other motion or to rest, but only to not being moved any faster." Bk2 Ch 3 ''Treatise on the heavens and the world''</ref>This analysis of the dynamics of the motions of the spheres seems to have been a first anticipation of Newton's subsequent more generally revised conception of inertia as resisting accelerated motion but not uniform motion.
--[[User:Logicus|Logicus]] ([[User talk:Logicus|talk]]) 15:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

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This article is about the English actor. For the song by Madness, see Michael Caine (song).
Michael Caine
File:Michael Caine at The Dark Knight Premiere.jpg
Born
Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Jr.
Years active1956 - present
Spouse(s)Patricia Haines (1955-1958)
Shakira Baksh (1973-present)
AwardsNBR Award for Best Cast
2001 Last Orders

Sir Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Jr., CBE (born March 14, 1933), better known by his screen name Michael Caine, is an Oscar- and BAFTA-winning English film actor who has appeared in more than one hundred films.[1]

Biography

Early life

Caine was born in Rotherhithe, South East London, the son of Ellen Frances Marie (née Burchell), a cook and charlady, and Maurice Joseph Micklewhite, Sr., a fish market porter.[2] Caine's father was Catholic, though Caine was raised in his Protestant mother's religion.[3]

Death

He lived a good life, but sadly passed away on July 21, 2008 while lighting his farts to impress gypsies.

The Caines are descended from Romanichal Gypsies and are known to throw reunion parties.

He grew up in Camberwell, attending Wilson's School (at that time Wilson's Grammar School) and during World War II was evacuated to North Runcton in Norfolk.[4] In 1944 he passed his eleven-plus exam. He left school at sixteen after gaining four O-Levels and did his National Service from April 1952 to 1954 in the Royal Fusiliers, serving in Germany and in combat in the Korean War.


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Acting career

When Caine first became an actor, he adopted the stage name "Michael Scott". His agent soon informed him, however, that another actor was already using the same name, and that he had to come up with a new name immediately. Speaking to his agent from a telephone box in Leicester Square in London, Caine looked around for inspiration, noted that The Caine Mutiny was being shown at the Odeon Cinema, and decided to change his name to "Michael Caine". He has joked in interviews that had he looked the other way, he would have ended up as "Michael One Hundred and One Dalmatians".[5]

Caine's acting career began in Horsham, West Sussex. He responded to an advertisement for an assistant stage manager for the Horsham-based Westminster Repertory Company. This led to walk-on roles at the Carfax Theatre.[6] After several minor roles, Caine came into the public eye as an upper-class British army officer in the 1964 film Zulu. This proved paradoxical, as Caine was to become notable for using a regional accent, rather than the received pronunciation hitherto considered proper for film actors. At the time, Caine's working-class cockney, just as with The Beatles' Liverpudlian accents, stood out to American and British audiences alike. Zulu was closely followed by two of his best-known roles: the spy Harry Palmer in The Ipcress File (1965), and the woman-chasing title character in Alfie (1966). He went on to play Palmer in a further four films, Funeral in Berlin (1966), Billion-Dollar Brain (1967), Bullet to Beijing (1995) and Midnight in St. Petersburg (1995). Caine made his first movie in the United States in 1966, after an invitation from Shirley MacLaine to play opposite her in Gambit. During the first two weeks, whilst staying at the Beverly Hills Hotel, he met long term friends John Wayne and agent "Swifty" Lazar.[7]

After ending the 1960s with the equally iconic The Italian Job, with Noel Coward, and a solid role as an RAF fighter pilot, Squadron Leader Canfield, in the all-star cast of Battle of Britain (1969), Caine entered the 1970s with Get Carter, a British gangster film. Caine was busy throughout the 1970s, with successes including Sleuth (1972), opposite Sir Laurence Olivier and The Man Who Would Be King (1975), costarring Sean Connery and directed by the legendary John Huston. By the end of the decade, he had moved to the U.S., but his choice of roles was beginning to be criticised; he admitted to and has since made many self-deprecating comments about taking parts in numerous movies he knew to be bad strictly for the money. Caine was averaging two films a year, but these included such failures as The Swarm (1978), Beyond the Poseidon Adventure (1979), The Island (1980) and The Hand (1981). Although Caine also took better roles, including a BAFTA-winning turn in Educating Rita (1983) and an Oscar-winning one in Hannah and Her Sisters (1986), he continued to appear in notorious duds like Jaws: The Revenge (1987) and Bullseye! (1990); his appearing in so many bad films made him the butt of numerous jokes on the subject. Of the former, Caine famously said "I have never seen the film, but by all accounts it was terrible. However I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific."[8]

The 1990s were a lean time for Caine, as he found good parts harder to come by. His early '90s output included playing Ebenezer Scrooge in the whimsical Muppet Christmas Carol (1992), a villain in the Steven Seagal flop On Deadly Ground (1994), two straight to video Harry Palmer sequels and a few television movies. However, Caine's reputation as a pop icon was still intact, thanks to his roles in films such as The Italian Job and Get Carter. His performance in 1998's Little Voice was seen as something of a return to form, and won him a Golden Globe Award. Better parts followed, including The Cider House Rules (1999), for which he won his second Oscar, Last Orders (2001), The Quiet American (2002) and others which helped rehabilitate his reputation. Several of Caine's classic films have been remade to appeal to new, younger audiences, including The Italian Job, Get Carter, Alfie and Sleuth, the latter with Caine taking over the role Laurence Olivier played in the 1972 version and Jude Law playing Caine's original role. In 2005, he was cast as Bruce Wayne's butler Alfred Pennyworth in the Batman film series. In 2006, he appeared in the films Children of Men and The Prestige.

Caine has been Oscar-nominated six times, winning his first Academy Award for the 1986 film Hannah and Her Sisters, and his second in 1999 for The Cider House Rules, in both cases as a supporting actor. He was appointed Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE) in 1993 for services to drama, and in 2000 he was knighted as Sir Maurice Micklewhite, CBE.[9] Unlike many actors who adopt their stage name for everyday use, Caine still uses his real name when he is not working.

Caine is a popular subject for impressionists and mimics, having a voice and manner of speaking that are distinctive, yet fairly easy to imitate. Most Caine impressions include the catchphrase "Not a lot of people know that." Peter Sellers initiated this when he appeared on BBC1's Parkinson show on 28 October 1972 and said: "Not many people know that. This is my Michael Caine impression. You see, Mike's always quoting from the Guinness Book of Records. At the drop of a hat he'll trot one out. 'Did you know that it takes a man in a tweed suit five and a half seconds to fall from the top of Big Ben to the ground? Now there's not many people know that!'"

In 1983, Caine was given the line to say as an in-joke in the film Educating Rita. The line was parodied in Harry Enfield's Television Programme by Paul Whitehouse, who introduced himself with the line "My name is Michael Paine, and I am a nosey neighbour."

Caine is one of only two actors to be nominated for an Academy Award for acting (either lead or supporting) in every decade since the 1960s. The other is Jack Nicholson.

He also starred in Austin Powers: Goldmember as Austin's Father. On 16 December 2007, Caine was the second guest on Michael Parkinson's Final Conversation.

Personal life

Caine lives near Leatherhead in Surrey, and is patron to the Leatherhead Drama Festival.[10] He has also lived in North Stoke, Oxfordshire, Clewer near Windsor, Berkshire, and Chelsea Harbour in London. In addition, Caine owns a penthouse in Miami Beach, Florida. Also there are many idiots on the dark knight board who have nothing more to do with there life other than joke about death. GET A LIFE. Losers.

He was married to actress Patricia Haines from 1955 to 1958; they had one daughter, Dominique. Caine has been married to actress and model Shakira Baksh since January 8, 1973. They have a daughter named Natasha.[11]

Some time after his mother died, Caine and his younger brother, Stanley, learned they had an elder half-brother, named David. He suffered from severe epilepsy and had been kept in Cane Hill Mental hospital his entire life. Although their mother regularly visited her first son in hospital, even her husband did not know the child existed. David died in 1992.[12]

Caine is a fan of the football team Chelsea FC[13]

Trivia books written by Caine include Not Many People Know That!, And Not Many People Know This Either!, Michael Caine's Moving Picture Show and Not A Lot of People Know This is 1988. Proceeds from the books went to the National Playing Fields Association (now Fields In Trust) of which Caine was a prominent supporter.

Musical career

Caine is a fan of chillout music and to that end has compiled a mix CD called Cained which was released in 2007 by UMTV.[14] According to Michael Caine, he met with Elton John, and was discussing musical tastes, when Caine claimed that he had been creating chillout mix tapes as an amateur for years.[15] Also in music, Caine provided vocal samples for British band Madness for their 1984 hit Michael Caine as his daughter was a fan. He has sung in movie roles as well, including for the musical movie, the Muppet Christmas Carol.

Filmography

Main article: Michael Caine filmography

Awards and nominations

Academy Awards

Other awards

References

Wikiquote has quotations related to Michael Caine.
  1. ^ Michael Caine (I) - Awards
  2. ^ Michael Caine Biography (1933-)
  3. ^ Profile and Interview: Michael Caine
  4. ^ *Michael Caine's Norfolk childhood
  5. ^ Michael Caine (I) | Interviews | guardian.co.uk Film
  6. ^ Horsham Carfax Electric Theatre - Hidden Horsham
  7. ^ Best of Times, Worst of Times: Michael Caine - Times Online
  8. ^ "Michael Caine Biography". Tiscali.
  9. ^ Official announcement knighthood. The London Gazette. 2 March 2001.
  10. ^ Welcome to the Leatherhead Drama Festival 2008 - This is the fifth Leatherhead Drama Festival (LDF) and we are proud of our achievement. When so many Arts activities are failing or at least contracting, the LDF is growing from strength to strength
  11. ^ http://www.michaelcaine.com/Dates.htm Michael Caine's Important dates
  12. ^ The Biography Channel: Michael Caine
  13. ^ Your Chelsea: Celebrity Fans
  14. ^ UMTV
  15. ^ Michael Caine to release chill-out album Times Online, accessed 2007-07-31
  16. ^ "Jack the Ripper (1988) (TV)". Retrieved 2007-03-31.

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Preceded by BAFTA Award for Best Actor in a Leading Role
1984
for Educating Rita 		Succeeded by
Preceded by Golden Globe Award for Best Actor - Motion Picture Musical or Comedy
1984
for Educating Rita 		Succeeded by
Preceded by Golden Globe Award for Best Actor in a Series, Miniseries or Motion Picture Made of Television
1989
for Jack the Ripper 		Succeeded by
Preceded by Golden Globe Award for Best Actor - Motion Picture Musical or Comedy
1999
for Little Voice 		Succeeded by

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