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=== October 11 ===
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==== Category:Indian people in history ====
:[[:Category:Indian people in history]] - {{lc1|Indian people in history}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''Delete'''. All people are "in history". Category is essentially redundant to [[:Category:Indian people]]. [[User:Good Olfactory|Good Ol’factory]] <sup>[[User talk:Good Olfactory|(talk)]]</sup> 07:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


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==== Category:Military Schools ====
:'''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Military Schools]] to [[:Category:Military Schools in India]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''Rename'''. The current name is rather misleading. It is a sub category of [[:Category:Military education and training in India]]. The category also begins with the following short description of the category: ''The military schools in India were started in 1925 with establishment of Chail Military School (King George Royal Indian Military College) and later on Ajmer, Bangalore, Belgaum and Dholpur were started by Govt. of India.'' [[User:Dbiel|Dbiel]] <sup>([[User talk:Dbiel|Talk]])</sup> 05:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:I failed to notice that this category was just created today. So now I am not sure if the category should be renamed or deleted. Just raising the question [[User:Dbiel|Dbiel]] <sup>([[User talk:Dbiel|Talk]])</sup> 05:31, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' - to the pre-existing [[:Category:Indian military academies]] (although that category should probably be "Military academies in India"). [[User:Otto4711|Otto4711]] ([[User talk:Otto4711|talk]]) 05:51, 11 October 2008 (UTC)


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== Candidate entries ==

=== Articles created/expanded on October 11 ===
[[Image:Masdevallia veitichiana (1).jpg|right|100x100px|Masdevallia veitichiana]]
*... that the orchid '''[[Masdevallia veitchiana]]''' (pictured) was named after Sir '''[[Harry Veitch]]''', the founder of the [[Chelsea Flower Show]]? new articles self-nom by [[User:Daemonic Kangaroo|Daemonic Kangaroo]] ([[User talk:Daemonic Kangaroo|talk]]) 07:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:NSU Quickly.jpg|right|100x100px|NSU Quickly]]
*... that more than a million '''[[NSU Quickly]]''' [[moped]]s were sold between 1953 and 1963? New article, self-nominated. [[User:SamBlob|Respectfully, SamBlob]] ([[User talk:SamBlob|talk]]) 04:32, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*... why '''[[Louis Bigmann]]''' became the [[Gabon]]ese President of the National Assembly? New article by ~<strong>'''<span style="font-family:Papyrus;color:DarkRed">one of many</span> <span style="color:#FF7F00;font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]]s <sup>([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|<span style="color:Green;">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">contribs</span>]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">editor review</span>]])</sup>'''</span></strong>~ 03:29, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:*Are "why" hooks acceptable? This one doesn't really say anything. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 03:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::*I've seen them before on the main page. I know it doesn't say anything, but it's supposed to entice readers to come to the article to find out the answer. ~<strong>'''<span style="font-family:Papyrus;color:DarkRed">one of many</span> <span style="color:#FF7F00;font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]]s <sup>([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|<span style="color:Green;">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">contribs</span>]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">editor review</span>]])</sup>'''</span></strong>~ 03:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*…that before the opening of a new store in March 2008, '''[[Courtland Center]]''' in [[Burton, Michigan]], had three separate [[JCPenney]] stores? – self nom by [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 03:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that [[mayor]] '''[[Royce Pollard]]''' has held [[public office]] in the city of [[Vancouver, Washington]], for 20 years? (Selfnom) <font style="font-family: Georgia">[[User:Steven Walling|Steven Walling]] [[User talk:Steven Walling|(talk)]]</font> 03:42, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

=== Articles created/expanded on October 10 ===

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* ... that the enmity between the [[Tang Dynasty]] general '''[[Li Sheng]]''' and the [[chancellor of Tang Dynasty|chancellor]] Zhang Yanshang began over a military [[prostitution|prostitute]]? (self-nomination, new article to displace redirect) --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 07:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*...that [[Ohio Secretary of State]] '''[[Jennifer Brunner]]''' has mandated a return to paper [[ballot]]s after an extensive study as well as an experience with failing electronic [[voting machine]]s.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 05:03, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that a seven-year-old boy broke into the '''[[Alice Springs Reptile Centre]]''', and killed thirteen animals? (created by {{user|Fish and karate}}, nom by --[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''Gen. Bedford'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="green">his Forest</font>]]</sup> 03:33, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Dipor Bil]] reportedly provides its natural resources for the livelihood of fourteen indigenous villages (1,200 families) located in its wetland ecosystem in [[Assam]]? --[[User:Nvvchar|Nvvchar]] ([[User talk:Nvvchar|talk]]) 03:07, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Confederate soldier.jpg|right|50px]]
*... that the wool used in the '''[[uniforms of the Confederate Military]]''' ''(pictured)'' caused many Confederate soldiers to suffer from heatstrokes on long marches? - self-nom --[[User:Lordoliver|LORDoliver †]] ([[User talk:Lordoliver|talk]]) 01:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the death of Captain '''[[Henry T. Waskow]]''' in [[WWII]] was the subject of one of [[Ernie Pyle]]'s most famous columns and the basis for the Oscar-nominated motion picture [[The Story of G.I. Joe]]. - self-nom --[[User:Leifern|Leifern]] ([[User talk:Leifern|talk]]) 00:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Tropical Storm Kirsten (1966)|Tropical Storm Kirsten of 1966]]''' did $35.18 million (2008 [[USD]]) in damages and caused heavy rain all the way to [[Phoenix, Arizona]] when it made landfall? --[[User:Elena85|Kirk76]] [[User talk:Elena85|<font color="light green"><sup>'''1'''966 Pacific</sup></font>]] [[Special:contributions/Elena85|<font color="light green"><sup>'''H'''urricane Season</sup></font>]] 21:59, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that after serving in a number of battles of the [[American Revolutionary War|American]] and [[French Revolutionary Wars]], [[Captain (Royal Navy)|Captain]] '''[[Ralph Willett Miller]]''' was killed in an accidental explosion aboard his ship [[HMS Theseus (1786)|HMS ''Theseus'']]? - self nom, new article, [[User:Benea|Benea]] ([[User talk:Benea|talk]]) 20:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that during the '''[[2007 Alum Rock earthquake]]''', over 60,000 reports of the earthquake were received? new article; self nom. &mdash;'''[[User:Ceranthor|<font color="#FF0000">Ceran</font >]]''' ([[User_talk:Ceranthor|<font color="#FF0000">Fly!</font>]]) 19:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|18px]] 1221 charchters, including ref numbers, spaces, and headings. ~<strong>'''<span style="font-family:Papyrus;color:DarkRed">one of many</span> <span style="color:#FF7F00;font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]]s <sup>([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|<span style="color:Green;">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">contribs</span>]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">editor review</span>]])</sup>'''</span></strong>~ 01:05, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that ''[[The New York Times]]'' moved in 1858 to a building at '''[[41 Park Row]]''', making it the first newspaper in New York City housed in a building built specifically for its use? new article, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 19:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:TheStrokes.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that the [[alternative rock]] band [[The Strokes]] has been '''[[List of awards and nominations received by The Strokes|nominated]]''' for Best International Band three times from the [[NME Awards]], winning it in 2006? <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 18:35, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Sleddale Hall in 2007.jpg||right|100x100px]]
*... that historic '''[[Sleddale Hall]]''', the filming location for Crow Crag in the cult film ''[[Withnail and I]]'' is derelict and has faced [[demolition]] in the past? New article and self nomination by [[User:Stronach|Stronach]] ([[User talk:Stronach|talk]]) 16:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Varecia variegata full body curled up.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that '''[[Ruffed Lemur]]s''' ''(pictured)'' are the only known primates to build arboreal nests, used exclusively for birth and for the first week or two of life? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:Visionholder|Visionholder]] ([[User talk:Visionholder|talk]]) 16:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
**Note - Sorry for the duplicate DYK for [[Ruffed Lemur]], but I had been planning this DYK for weeks, but my Internet connection died for 7 hours immediately after I posted the re-write, and my good friend Rlendog beat me here. - [[User:Visionholder|Visionholder]] ([[User talk:Visionholder|talk]]) 16:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::I deleted the duplicate.[[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 02:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*<s>... that experiments have indicated that '''[[Ruffed Lemur]]s''' ''(pictured)'' can understand the outcome of simple [[arithmetic operation]]s? -- Article expanded fivefold by [[User:Visionholder|Visionholder]]; Nom by [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 13:32, 10 October 2008 (UTC)</s>
:Deleted, as the author prefers a different hook.[[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 02:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Chagrin Falls Popcorn Shop]]''' was featured in "The Essential Calvin and Hobbes," showing a Godzilla-sized Calvin carrying off the entire building? (new article, self-nom) [[User:Geaugagrrl/helpful|&#8734;&#9788;]][[User:Geaugagrrl|Geaugagrrl]]<small><sup>[[User_talk:Geaugagrrl|(T)]]</sup></small>/<small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Geaugagrrl|(C)]]</sub></small> 05:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
**I've removed the image; Non-free images are not allowed here. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 13:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Uss nevada.jpg|right|100x100px|USS Nevada (BB-36)]]
*... that the '''[[14"/45 caliber gun]]s''' from the battleship {{USS|Arizona|BB-39}} were installed aboard the battleship {{USS|Nevada|BB-36}} and fired against the Japanese in 1945? (new article, dual nom with [[User:the ed17]]) [[User:TomStar81|TomStar81]] ([[User talk:TomStar81|Talk]]) 05:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Orson Welles]] originally planned to end his film '''''[[Don Quixote (unfinished film)|Don Quixote]]''''' by having [[Don Quixote]] and [[Sancho Panza]] survive an atomic cataclysm? (new article, self-nom) [[User:Ecoleetage|Ecoleetage]] ([[User talk:Ecoleetage|talk]]) 03:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''''[[Empire (1962 TV series)|Empire]]''''', a [[1962]]&ndash;[[1963]] [[National Broadcasting Company|NBC]] [[Western (genre)|Western]] [[drama|dramatic]] [[television series|series]] set on a [[New Mexico]] [[ranch]], provided the first recurring role for future [[film]] star [[Ryan O'Neal]]?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 02:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that early in his career, [[Hungary|Hungarian]] painter '''[[István Réti]]''' travelled to [[Turin]], where he painted the body of [[Hungarian Revolution of 1848|1848 revolutionary]] [[Lajos Kossuth]], who had died there recently? -- self-nom by [[User:Biruitorul|Biruitorul]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Biruitorul|Talk]]</sup></small> 02:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date, reference verified. The sourse is Muzeul Secuiesc al Ciucului in Miercurea Ciuc, Romania, which has an excellent site in both Hungarian and Romanian (I still have to find there a grammar mistake). The particular bibliography is based, according to the Museum webpage, on 3 history of art books that appeared resp. in 1944, 1954 and 1960. The fact is clearly stated in lines 3-4 without the possibility of a double interpretation. So, if the researchers in the books don't lie, and if the museographs copied well from them, it is true. [[User:Dc76|Dc76]]\<sup>[[User_talk:Dc76|talk]]</sup> 03:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that, in his first season as a [[Major League Baseball|baseball]] player, '''[[Brian Barber|Brian Barber's]]''' age of 22 was the youngest on an aging [[St. Louis Cardinals]] team?- Modeled after [[Santo Alcala]].--[[User:LAAFan|<font color="orange" face="Times New Roman">LAA</font>]][[User talk:LAAFan|<font color="black" face="Times New Roman">Fan</font>]]''<sup>[[User:LAAFan/Guestbook|sign]]</sup> <sub>[[Wikipedia:Editor review/LAAFan 2|review]]''</sub> 02:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

=== Articles created/expanded on October 9 ===

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[[Image:Nabi Samwil early 1900s.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that the [[Palestinian]] village of '''[[Nabi Samwil]]''', near [[Jerusalem]], is regarded by [[Muslim]]s, [[Jew]]s and [[Christian]]s alike as a holy site for containing the [[tomb of Samuel|tomb]] of [[Samuel (Bible)|Samuel]]? (self-nom). --[[User:Al Ameer son|Al Ameer son]] ([[User talk:Al Ameer son|talk]]) 01:08, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::I guess you mean [[Samuel (Bible)|this Samuel]]? [[User:Manxruler|Manxruler]] ([[User talk:Manxruler|talk]]) 02:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
:Yup, that's him. --[[User:Al Ameer son|Al Ameer son]] ([[User talk:Al Ameer son|talk]]) 04:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that '''[[1966 Pacific hurricane season|1966]]''' saw the most storms form in the Eastern Pacific since naming began in [[1960 Pacific hurricane season|1960]] only to be surpassed the [[1967 Pacific hurricane season|next year]]? --[[User:Elena85|Kirk76]] [[User talk:Elena85|<font color="light green"><sup>'''1'''966 Pacific</sup></font>]] [[Special:contributions/Elena85|<font color="light green"><sup>'''H'''urricane Season</sup></font>]] 22:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Michal-Kruk-1943-execution.jpg|100x100px|right|Execution of Michał Kruk, [[Przemyśl]], 1943]]
* ... that '''[[Franciszek and Magdalena Banasiewicz]]''', [[Polish Righteous among the Nations]], hid fifteen [[Jew]]s on their farm during [[Invasion of Poland (1939)|World War II]] undeterred by public execution of their [[Ghetto]] liaison ''(pictured)''? — New article, self-nom by [[User:Poeticbent|<font face="Papyrus" color="darkblue"><b>Poeticbent</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Poeticbent|<small><font style="color:#FFFFFF;background:#FF88AF;border:1px solid #DF2929;padding:0.0em 0.2em;">talk</font></small>]] 14:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Frans Hals 031.jpg|100x100px|right|Portrait of Isaac Massa by [[Franz Hals]], 1626]]
* .. that the first European map of the [[Siberia]]n [[Arctic]] coast was obtained and published by Dutchman '''[[Isaac Massa]]''' ''(portrait pictured)''? new, self-nom [[User:NVO|NVO]] ([[User talk:NVO|talk]]) 23:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[County Route 41 (Onondaga County, New York)|County Route 41]]''' in [[Onondaga County, New York]], was once part of two state highways and one turnpike?<FONT FACE="Arial" SIZE="-1" COLOR="red">Mitch</FONT><b>32</b><sup>([[User:Mitchazenia|UP]])</sup> 23:20, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Solna kyrka altar1.jpg|right|100x100px|Altar centre-piece, Solna Church]]
*... that '''[[Solna Church]]''' ''(altar pictured)'', a [[round church]] in Stockholm from the late 12th century, was originally built for defense purposes? --self-nom. [[User:Oceanh|Oceanh]] ([[User talk:Oceanh|talk]]) 22:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC).

*... that '''[[Bruce Voeller]]''' coined the term for the acronym [[AIDS]]? Self nom. -- [[User:How do you turn this on|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:white; background:gray;">how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;turn&nbsp;this&nbsp;on</span>]] 22:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol delete vote.svg|18px]] No inline cites. ~<strong>'''<span style="font-family:Papyrus;color:DarkRed;background:blue">one of many</span> <span style="color:#FF7F00;font-family:Papyrus">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]]s <sup>([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|<span style="color:Green;">talk</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">contribs</span>]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|<span style="color:Green;">editor review</span>]])</sup>'''</span></strong>~ 22:11, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
***Ed, it's fully referenced. Why do I need inline cites? -- [[User:How do you turn this on|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:white; background:gray;">how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;turn&nbsp;this&nbsp;on</span>]] 22:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
****The rule at [[Wikipedia:Did you know#Selection criteria]] number 3 requires inline cites and gives a brief explanation, and that rule represents a strong consensus. Also, I would substitute the redundant "the term for the acronym" with either "the term" or "the acronym". [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 03:45, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
*****Done then (not the hook, the cites). The hook is quite accurate as it is. -- [[User:How do you turn this on|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:white; background:gray;">how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;turn&nbsp;this&nbsp;on</span>]] 13:12, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
******I think the comment wasn't about the accuracy, rather that the expression was tautologous: for example, what extra meaning is conveyed in the phrase "coined the term for the acronym" that is not in "coined the acronym"? Regards, &mdash; [[User:BillC|BillC]] <sup>[[User talk:BillC|talk]]</sup> 02:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that growing '''[[Kazakhstan-People's Republic of China relations]]''' help [[Communist China]] avert the establishment of [[U.S.]] [[military base|bases]] in [[Kazakhstan]] and harness its oil resources? '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 19:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
[[Image:Symbol question.svg|18px]] Please '''embolden''' the new/expanded article. Thanks. -- [[User:How do you turn this on|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:white; background:gray;">how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;turn&nbsp;this&nbsp;on</span>]] 19:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:Done :) Thanks, '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 19:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Kazakhstan]] and [[Turkey]] have sought to promote '''[[Kazakhstan-Turkey relations|closer bilateral relations]]''' and foster close ties between [[Turkic people|Turkic nations]] of [[Central Asia]]? '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 18:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[India-Kazakhstan relations|India has supported Kazakhstan]]''' in its bid for a [[Caspian Sea]] [[naval fleet]] despite [[Russia]]'s opposition? '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 18:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that after being rejected from [[HaShomer]], a Jewish defense organization in Ottoman Palestine, '''[[Yosef Lishansky]]''' founded a rival group called HaMagen, operating in the south of the country? (self-nom) -- [[User:Ynhockey|Ynhockey]] <sup>([[User talk:Ynhockey|Talk]])</sup> 18:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Alfred Philippe Roll]]''' was the [[Government of France|French government]]'s official painter? Self nom. -- [[User:How do you turn this on|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:white; background:gray;">how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;turn&nbsp;this&nbsp;on</span>]] 17:04, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Zola Maseko]]''' was the first [[South Africa]]n filmmaker to receive the top prize at [[FESPACO]], the Golden Stallion of Yennenga, in 2005? New article by '''the <span style="color:#FF7F00">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|contribs]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|editor review]])'''</span> 16:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC), expanded by [[User:Blofeld of SPECTRE]] and '''the <span style="color:#FF7F00">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|contribs]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|editor review]])'''</span> 16:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[offset agreement]]s''' are one of the methods used to ensure a country's [[balance of trade]]? -- new article, self-nom [[User:Malick78|Malick78]] ([[User talk:Malick78|talk]]) 15:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:St Demetrius Tarnovo Klearchos 2.jpg|right|100x100px|Church of St Demetrius of Thessaloniki, Veliko Tarnovo]]
*... that when the '''[[Church of St Demetrius of Thessaloniki, Veliko Tarnovo|Church of St Demetrius]]''' was built in [[Veliko Tarnovo]], [[Bulgaria]], a rumour was spread that the saint would come to the city? (self-nom) ''[[User:TodorBozhinov|Todor]][[User_talk:TodorBozhinov|→]][[User:TodorBozhinov|Bozhinov]]''

*... that '''[[Jason Dozzell]]''' is the youngest player to have scored in the [[Football League First Division]] when he scored for [[Ipswich Town F.C.|Ipswich Town]] aged 16 years and 57 days? self nom, article expanded from 1008 to 5156 chars, [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 13:19, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that '''[[Rettamalai Srinivasan]]''', [[Dalit]] leader from the [[Madras Presidency]], was a brother-in-law of famous Dalit activist [[Iyothee Thass]]?-self-nom by-<font color="maroon" size="4" face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User:Ravichandar84|Ravichandar]]</font><sub><font color="aqua" face="Monotype Corsiva">[[User talk:Ravichandar84|My coffee shop]]</font></sub> 12:29, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[New Zealand Police]] Commissioner '''[[Howard Broad]]''' joined front-line officers on the beat for 2008 [[New Year's Eve]]? -- new article self-nom by [[User:XLerate|XLerate]] ([[User talk:XLerate|talk]]) 09:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[India-Germany relations|Germany helped India]]''' establish the [[Indian Institute of Technology Madras]] and their bilateral trade is expected to reach €30&nbsp;billion by 2010? '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 00:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Relations between whom? Suggest rewording: "[[Germany]] helped <u>India</u> establish [[Indian Institute of Technology Madras|IIT Madras]] ..." – Otherwise, date, length and references OK. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<font style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">'''&nbsp;Sandstein&nbsp;'''</font>]]</span></small> 10:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[John Okello]] claimed that he heard a voice which told him to lead the '''[[Zanzibar Revolution]]'''?
**or ... that the '''[[Zanzibar Revolution]]''' sparked army [[Mutiny|mutinies]] in [[Kenya]], [[Uganda]] and [[Tanganyika]]? - expansion, self nom - [[User:Dumelow|Dumelow]] ([[User talk:Dumelow|talk]]) 18:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''''[[Our Man Higgins]]''''', a 1962&ndash;1963 [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]] [[sitcom]], featured [[Stanley Holloway]] of ''[[My Fair Lady]]'' as an emphatic English [[butler]] to a [[suburban]] American family?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 20:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
** I have taken the liberty to remove some links; I think there were too many of them. The year ones, especially, were useless, and I'd say the same for the ''English'' and ''American'' ones. [[User:The Duke of Waltham|Waltham]], <small>[[User talk:The Duke of Waltham|''The Duke of'']]</small> 05:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that "[[Jealous Minds Think Alike]]" was the first single by [[British]] [[Pop Punk]] band, '''[[You Me At Six]]''' to chart in the [[UK singles chart]]? - creation, self nom --<font color="Blue">[[User:Cabe6403|Cabe]]</font><font color="Green">[[User:Cabe6403|6403]]</font> ([[user_talk:Cabe6403|Talk]]•[[User:Cabe6403/Guest book|Please Sign my guest book!]]) 22:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
** The ''British'' link isn't really needed, is it? Also, I'm not sure ''Pop Punk'' should be capitalised. [[User:The Duke of Waltham|Waltham]], <small>[[User talk:The Duke of Waltham|''The Duke of'']]</small> 05:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Nationalsozialistischer Reichsbund für Leibesübungen|Nationalsocialist League of the Reich for Physical Exercise]]''' was the [[umbrella organization]] for [[sports]] during the [[Third Reich]]? --article by [[User:Xufanc]]; more interesting hooks in text but lack inline citation - suggest reviewing admin contacts the creator and asks for them, nom by <sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 14:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Amrita Club.jpg|100px|right]]
*... that the '''[[Amrita Club]]''' (''pictured'') is one of only two [[brick]] [[Colonial Revival architecture|Colonial Revival]] buildings in [[Poughkeepsie (city), New York|Poughkeepsie, New York]]? Self-nom [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 16:14, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

=== Articles created/expanded on October 8 ===

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*... that until the 1990s, the '''[[Short-beaked Common Dolphin]]''' ''(pictured)'' and the '''[[Long-beaked Common Dolphin]]''' were considered the same [[common dolphin|species]]? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 03:20, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Ontario]] has more '''[[List of universities in Canada|universities]]''', with 22, than any other [[Canadian]] [[province]]? <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 18:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
: Ontario also has more residents than most provinces. --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 04:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Yep, however that's not mentioned in the article. The article is about Canadian universities. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 04:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::: [[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] It's a nicely done article, and its certainly something that is unlikely to be found elsewhere, but it doesn't have enough prose to qualify as per the [[#Instructions]]. Perhaps you could add an overview of Canadian universities as an intro? <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 05:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::: "# Prose size (text only): 1717 B (283 words) "readable prose size"" actually. Anyways, the lead should be expanded on shortly, also. But, it does indeed meet the criteria. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 18:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::: Baahh. I can't count... [[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Article expanded from 9000 to 18000+ bytes, prose expanded from 42 to 1700+ characters, reference good. <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 18:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that in 2000, an [[ammonia]] discharge into a [[tributary]] of the '''[[River Clun, South Wales|River Clun]]''' in south [[Wales]] killed its entire resident population of [[European bullhead]]s? ~ New article by [[User:Daicaregos|Daicaregos]]; nominated by <font face="Helvetica">[[User:Hassocks5489|<font color="#00BFFF"><b>Hassocks</b></font>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<font color="#228B22">5489<small> (tickets please!)</small></font>]]</font> 11:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC).

*... that [[Olivia Colman]] bonded the cast of '''''[[Beautiful People (UK TV series)|Beautiful People]]''''' by arranging a visit from a mobile blood donor unit? -- article created by [[User:Whg106|Whg106]], expanded by [[User:Bradley0110|Bradley0110]] ([[User talk:Bradley0110|talk]]) 08:11, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that after his son was murdered during an university [[study abroad]] program in 2004, American [[entrepreneur]] '''[[Thomas Petters|Tom Petters]]''', himself a college dropout, formed the John T. Petters Foundation to provide endowments that would benefit future students at several universities? -- new article by [[User:TedSaidMed]] and [[User:Bobak|Bobak]] ([[User talk:Bobak|talk]]) 23:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] [[User:Art LaPella/Long hook|264 character hook.]] [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 23:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::*TWEAK (now 199): that after his son was murdered during a [[study abroad]] program, American [[entrepreneur]] '''[[Thomas Petters|Tom Petters]]''' formed a foundation to provide endowments that would benefit future students at several universities? -- [[User:Bobak|Bobak]] ([[User talk:Bobak|talk]]) 15:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] verified. <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 04:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that for 25 years the '''[[Schomberg and Aurora Railway]]''' connected the small town of [[Schomberg, Ontario]] to the [[Toronto and York Radial Railway]] running along [[Yonge Street]]? [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 21:33, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Portrait of Percy Bysshe Shelley by Curran, 1819.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that unique versions of [[Percy Bysshe Shelley]]'s ''(pictured)'' "'''[[Mont Blanc (poem)|Mont Blanc]]'''" and "'''[[Hymn to Intellectual Beauty]]'''" were rediscovered in a notebook 160 years after they were originally composed? double nom, co-nom with [[User:Awadewit]] on both, Mont Blanc is 5x expansion, Hymn to Intellectual Beauty is new. [[User:Ottava Rima|Ottava Rima]] ([[User talk:Ottava Rima|talk]]) 21:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Association football|footballer]] '''[[Peter Stringfellow (footballer)|Peter Stringfellow]]''' suffered a dramatic decline in form, which ultimately ended his professional career, after being involved in a car crash in which a team-mate died? -- new article self-nom by [[User:ChrisTheDude|ChrisTheDude]] ([[User talk:ChrisTheDude|talk]]) 21:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[mountaineering|mountaineer]] '''[[William Woodman Graham]]''' had to abandon an expedition to [[Kanchenjunga]] when a [[Porter (carrier)|porter]] accidentally burned his [[boot]]s? -- Self nom '''[[User:Iain99|Iain99]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Iain99|Balderdash]] and [[Special:Contributions/Iain99|piffle]]</sup> 21:11, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the first person to learn what is in the [[United Kingdom]] Budget, presented by the [[Chancellor of the Exchequer]] on '''[[Budget Day]]''' is the Queen? &mdash; I wrote it. [[User:Jonathan de Boyne Pollard|Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]] ([[User talk:Jonathan de Boyne Pollard|talk]]) 21:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:The First of May.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that [[Queen Victoria of the United Kingdom|Queen Victoria]] wore the [[The Queen's Jewels#The George III Tiara|George III Tiara]], part of '''[[the Queen's Jewels|Elizabeth II's jewel collection]]''' while being painted in [[Franz Xaver Winterhalter]]'s ''The First of May'' ''(pictured)''? - self nom --'''[[User:Cameron|Cameron]][[User Talk:Cameron|*]]''' 17:48, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Zac Brown Band]]'s single '''"[[Chicken Fried]]"''' was previously recorded by [[The Lost Trailers]], whose version was withdrawn after Brown changed his mind about licensing the song to that record label? – Self nom by [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 17:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] 216 character hook. ''... that Zac Brown Band's single "Chicken Fried" was previously released by The Lost Trailers, whose version was withdrawn after Zac Brown changed his mind about licensing the song to that record label?'' is 198 characters. <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 04:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::*Fixed. [[User:TenPoundHammer|<span style="color:green">Ten Pound Hammer</span>]] and his otters • <sup>([[Special:Contributions/TenPoundHammer|Broken clamshells]] • [[:User talk:TenPoundHammer|Otter chirps]] • [[:User:TenPoundHammer/Country|HELP]])</sup> 15:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:::*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] <font color="#3300ff">[[User:Thingg|Thingg]]</font><sup><font color="#33ff00">[[User talk:Thingg|&#8853;]]</font></sup><sup><font color="#ff0033">[[Special:Contributions/Thingg|&#8855;]]</font></sup> 04:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that in 1870 the [[Bishop of Chester]] considered that the proposed altarpiece for the '''[[Church of Saint John the Baptist, Liverpool]]''' was too [[Papist|"Popish"]] and refused to consecrate the church until it was removed? Self-nom by [[User:Peter I. Vardy|Peter I. Vardy]] ([[User talk:Peter I. Vardy|talk]]) 16:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC); big expansion. (202 characters, including spaces - if it's too long, delete "in 1870"; or change "considered" to "opined" (horrible word)).

*... that during the '''[[Nebraska in the American Civil War|American Civil War, Nebraska]]''' lost 239 men? (created by {{User|Bedford}}, expanded by {{user|8th Ohio Volunteers}})--[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''Gen. Bedford'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="green">his Forest</font>]]</sup> 16:31, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Friston Windmill]]''' is the tallest surviving [[post mill]] in the United Kingdom? New article created on 8 Oct and self nom by [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]])
:'''Note''' This will be the 50<sup>th</sup> DYK for an article I've created/expanded. Current total is 48 created/expanded + 2 nominated. [[image:smiley.svg|15px]] [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]]) 10:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the American singer [[Becca (singer)|Becca]] provided the closing theme, "I'm Alive!", for the '''[[List of Kuroshitsuji episodes|episodes]]''' of the 2008 Japanese [[anime]] ''[[Kuroshitsuji#Anime|Kuroshitsuji]]''? (self-nomination) — <font face="Segoe Script">[[User:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="navy">'''sephiroth bcr'''</font>]]</font> <font face="Verdana"><sup>'''([[User talk:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="blue">converse</font>]])'''</sup></font> 05:01, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[France]] has strengthened '''[[India-France relations|bilateral ties]]''' with [[India]] by signing agreements allowing it to purchase French-made [[nuclear reactor]]s, the [[Mirage 2000]] [[fighter aircraft|fighters]] and the [[Scorpène class submarine|Scorpène]] [[submarine]]s? '''<font face="Verdana">[[User:Vishnava|<font color="Red">Vishnava</font>]]<sub><small>[[User talk:Vishnava|<font color="Black"> talk </font>]]</small></sub></font>''' 04:29, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Malakas and Maganda Emerging from Bamboo BambooMan.jpg|right|100x100px|Image for Filipino proverbs, Damiana Eugenio, Philippine Folklore hook]]
*... that '''[[Filipino proverbs]]''' were grouped into six categories by '''[[Damiana Eugenio]]''', a professor and author known as the Mother of [[Philippine Folklore]] ''(sample myth pictured)''? – self-nom/article created from a simple list, hook count at 127 characters (no spaces) / 150 (with spaces), article’s character count at 2,084 (no spaces) / 2,472 (with spaces) - [[User:AnakngAraw|AnakngAraw]] ([[User talk:AnakngAraw|talk]]) 04:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:*'''''Note''''': Above suggested hook is now a double selfnom because I also created an article about [[Damiana Eugenio]] in addition to the [[Filipino proverbs]] article; current hook above now linked to this newly created article (and now bolded too) which has 1,886 characters (no spaces) / 2,331 (with spaces). Thanks. - [[User:AnakngAraw|AnakngAraw]] ([[User talk:AnakngAraw|talk]]) 16:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Fostoria Glass Company]]''' production peaked in 1950 when it manufactured over 8 million pieces of [[glass]]? (new; self nom) --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 02:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:*(alt1) ... that all [[List of Presidents of the United States|U.S. Presidents]] from [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] through [[Ronald Reagan]] ordered [[glassware]] from '''[[Fostoria Glass Company]]''' of [[Moundsville, West Virginia]]? (''It might be a good one around election day.'') --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 15:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:: When is election day? November? --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 21:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::: November 4. At least this isn't the Main Page. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 21:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::: Not sure if we should wait till November 4. Too long a wait, IMO. --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 04:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood|Pre-Raphaelite]] English artist '''[[John Wharlton Bunney]]''' painted a picture including the entire western facade of [[St. Mark's Basilica]] over six hundred early morning sessions?...by {{user|Ugajin}} - nom {{user|Casliber}}

*... the only print of [[Orson Welles]]' 1938 film '''''[[Too Much Johnson]]''''' was destroyed in a 1971 fire at Welles' home outside of [[Madrid, Spain]]? (5x expansion, from 635 to 3563 characters, self-nom) [[User:Ecoleetage|Ecoleetage]] ([[User talk:Ecoleetage|talk]]) 16:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Polish Jewish]] cancer specialist '''[[Julian Aleksandrowicz]]''', during [[WWII]] was aided in the [[Kraków ghetto]] by one of the [[Polish Righteous]], and later escaped and joined [[Polish resistance in WWII|Polish resistance]] [[Armia Krajowa]]? self-nom by --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 17:09, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Ensign O'Toole]]''', a [[1962]]&ndash;[[1963]] [[National Broadcasting Company|NBC]] [[military]] [[comedy]] [[television series|series]] starring [[Dean Jones (actor)|Dean Jones]], also featured [[Jack Albertson]], [[Beau Bridges]], [[Jay C. Flippen]], [[Harvey Lembeck]], and [[Jack Mullaney]]?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 22:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:OR
:*... that '''[[Ensign O'Toole]]''', a [[1962]]&ndash;[[1963]] [[National Broadcasting Company|NBC]] [[military]] [[comedy]] [[television series|series]] starring [[Dean Jones (actor)|Dean Jones]], was set aboard the [[USS Frank E. Evans (DD-754)|USS ''Frank E. Evans'']], which was thereafter destroyed in an [[accident]]?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 22:19, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Houses on Garfield Place, Poughkeepsie, NY.jpg|100x100px|right|Houses on Garfield Place]]
*... that South Liberty Street in [[Poughkeepsie (city), New York|Poughkeepsie, New York]], was renamed '''[[Garfield Place Historic District|Garfield Place]]''' ''(houses pictured)'' after the [[James A. Garfield assassination|assassination]] of President [[James A. Garfield]]? Self-nom [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on October 7===

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*... that the replacement of stale [[chewing gum]], by a [[sales]] representative, led to the [[Supreme Court of the United States|U.S. Supreme Court]] case of the '''''[[Wisconsin Department of Revenue v. William Wrigley, Jr., Co.]]'''''? self-nom by [[User:XF Law|XF Law]]<sup><small>[[User:XF Law|<font color="black">'''XF Law'''</font>]]</small></sup><sub><small> [[User talk:XF Law|<font color="black">talk at me</font>]]</small></sub> 22:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the pre-Columbian ruins of '''[[Dainzú]]''' are distinguished by their gallery of bas-reliefs representing [[Mesoamerican ballgame|ball-players]]? self-nom by [[User:Simon Burchell|Simon Burchell]] ([[User talk:Simon Burchell|talk]]) 21:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the power of the '''[[Indiana Klan|Ku Klux Klan in Indiana]]''' was once so great its leader claimed "I am the law in [[Indiana]]"? (created by {{user|Charles Edward}}, nom by --[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''Gen. Bedford'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="green">his Forest</font>]]</sup> 16:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[Germany|German]] '''[[Third Battle of Kharkov|Donbas Operations]]''' (19 February – 6 March 1943) led to the destruction of 52 [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] divisions, and the recapture of the cities of [[Kharkiv|Kharkov]] and [[Belgorod]] from the [[Red Army]]? '''[[User:Catalan|JonCatalán]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Catalan|(Talk)]]</sup> 15:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Expansion started on 7 October, from around 7kB to almost 40kB. '''[[User:Catalan|JonCatalán]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Catalan|(Talk)]]</sup> 15:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that the [[Tang Dynasty]] general '''[[Li Huaiguang]]''' saved Fengtian, where [[Emperor Dezong of Tang]] was at the time, from falling to the rebel [[Zhu Ci]]? (self-nomination) --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 13:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[British Army|army officer]] and [[Member of Parliament|M.P.]] '''[[William Hacket Pain]]''' was involved in planning and organising the [[Larne Gun Running]] operation, which helped to arm the [[Ulster Volunteers]] during the [[Irish nationalism#The Home Rule crisis 1912-14|Home Rule crisis of 1912]]? ~ New article by [[User:Sam Blacketer|Sam Blacketer]]; nominated by <font face="Helvetica">[[User:Hassocks5489|<font color="#00BFFF"><b>Hassocks</b></font>]][[User talk:Hassocks5489|<font color="#228B22">5489<small> (tickets please!)</small></font>]]</font> 11:58, 9 October 2008 (UTC).

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*... that Renaissance [[woodcut]]s by '''[[Hans Wechtlin]]''' ''(example pictured)'' cover both the chivalric ideal of war and graphic details of war wounds? self-nom by [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 01:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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*... that '''[[Arthur Cecil]]''' debuted on the professional stage in ''[[No Cards]]'' by [[W. S. Gilbert]] and ''[[Cox and Box]]'' ''(pictured)'' by [[Arthur Sullivan]] but was never hired by [[Gilbert and Sullivan]]? -- self-nom by [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 22:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Le Stade Olympique1.jpg||right|500px|100x100px]]
*... that cold weather kept the [[Montreal Expos]] on the road for their first 19 [[Opening Day]] games, until 1988 when [[Dennis Martínez]] became the '''[[List of Washington Nationals Opening Day starting pitchers|starting pitcher of the team's first opening day home game]]'''? -- new article, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 18:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

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*... that '''[[Framsden Windmill]]''' ''(pictured)'' was raised by {{convert|18|ft|m|2|lk=on}} in 1836, and worked for another [[century|100 years]]? Article created on Oct 7 and self-nom by [[User:Mjroots|Mjroots]] ([[User talk:Mjroots|talk]])

*... that '''[[Carson Parks]]''', who wrote the hit song "[[Somethin' Stupid]]", was the brother of [[Beach Boys]]' collaborator [[Van Dyke Parks]]? (self nom - [[User:Ghmyrtle|Ghmyrtle]] ([[User talk:Ghmyrtle|talk]]) 09:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC) - may be obvious to some, but I didn't know)

*... that '''[[M-67 (Michigan highway)|M-67]]''', a state highway in the [[Upper Peninsula of Michigan]], has remained essentially unchanged but the highways connecting to it have changed three times since 1919? — self-nomination after 5.89x expansion. History section cited by maps showing the changes in connecting highways. Highway marker shield available if desired [[User:Imzadi1979|Imzadi1979]] ([[User talk:Imzadi1979|talk]]) 04:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:<s>Say where it is!</s> OK [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 01:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Date, time, off-line sources accepted, 2786/474 = 5.88x expansion

*... that '''[[Georg J. Lober]]'''′s 1956 sculpture of [[Hans Christian Andersen]] in [[New York City]]'s [[Central Park]] was funded in part by contributions from Danish and American schoolchildren? -- new article, self-nom by [[User:Alansohn|Alansohn]] ([[User talk:Alansohn|talk]]) 02:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

{{DYK Listen|Massenet - Le Cid - Pleurez, pleurez, mes yeux.ogg|Marguerite Sylva in 1910}}
*... that '''[[Marguerite Sylva]]''' ''(recording: ''[[Le Cid (opera)|Le Cid]]'')'', modestly told [[W. S. Gilbert]] she "sang a little" when he asked after her sister's audition, and, after demonstrating, was offered a part? -- Nomination by [[User:Shoemaker's Holiday]], article by [[User:Voceditenore]]. [[User:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday]] ([[User talk:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|talk]]) 01:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
**A simpler hook might be "... that opera singer and recording pioneer '''[[Marguerite Sylva]]''' was really named Marguerite Alice Hélène Smith?" You could also use [[:Image:Marguerita Sylva As Carmen Opera Comique.jpg|this rather nice photograph of her]], if you like, but Voceditenore did a fantastic job on this article, and I couldn't help but nominate it here =) [[User:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday]] ([[User talk:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|talk]]) 02:08, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I like the first hook, but would shorten it to: "*... that '''[[Marguerite Sylva]]''' modestly told [[W. S. Gilbert]], at her sister's audition, that she "sang a little" and, after demonstrating, was offered a part? -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 23:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::::That works quite well. Of course, we'd need to mention the recording or picture in some form, if they're used. Of course, this is only part of a rather fascinating anecdote, but, hey, that's why we're linking to the article. [[User:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday]] ([[User talk:Shoemaker&#39;s Holiday|talk]]) 00:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Ronn Reynolds]]''' spent parts of six seasons as a [[Major League Baseball]] [[catcher]], despite a career [[batting average]] of just .188? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Rlendog|Rlendog]] ([[User talk:Rlendog|talk]]) 00:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that [[Horatio Nelson, 1st Viscount Nelson|Horatio Nelson]] called the [[Captain (Royal Navy)|captains]] who fought with him at the [[Battle of the Nile]] his '''"[[Nelson's Band of Brothers|Band of Brothers]]"'''? - new article, self nom, [[User:Benea|Benea]] ([[User talk:Benea|talk]]) 23:23, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that, although having a tradition of over 600 years and being the backyard of the [[Zagreb cathedral]], the '''[[Ribnjak, Zagreb|Ribnjak]]''' [[neighborhood]] in [[Zagreb]], [[Croatia]] is a focal point of [[gang violence]] in the city?
**(The "benevolent" hook) ... that the '''[[Ribnjak, Zagreb|Ribnjak]]''' [[neighborhood]] in [[Zagreb]], [[Croatia]] was named after ponds that used to cover its western half? --self nom, written and moved to mainspace in a single day. [[User:Admiral Norton|Admiral Norton]] <sup>([[User talk:Admiral Norton|talk]])</sup> 22:04, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that only a few English [[church]]es celebrate the ancient custom of "'''[[clipping the church]]'''"? Self nomination. It's quite short though, but I think it has over 1500 characters. -- [[User:How do you turn this on|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman; color:white; background:gray;">how&nbsp;do&nbsp;you&nbsp;turn&nbsp;this&nbsp;on</span>]] 21:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
**[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Just barely at 1622, with spaces. '''the [[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|contribs]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|editor review]])''' 22:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
** this one's really good DYK! I thought of a darker hook, something like "it's the congregation, not a low-flying plane". [[User:NVO|NVO]] ([[User talk:NVO|talk]]) 19:41, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[William Trueheart]]''' was the acting [[United States Ambassador to South Vietnam|U.S. ambassador to Saigon]] during the Vietnam Conflict, because his superior, [[Frederick Nolting]], wanted a break from duties? Expanded by [[User talk:Caulde|<span style="color:#8B0000;font-weight:bold">Caulde</span>]] 20:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:ACDC-Hughes-long ago.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that the [[hard rock]] band [[AC/DC]] has never won a [[Grammy Award]] despite receiving four '''[[List of awards and nominations received by AC/DC|nominations]]''' during their career? <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 18:30, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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*... that '''[[All Saints' Church, Childwall]]''' ''(pictured)'' is the only medieval church in the [[metropolitan borough]] of [[Liverpool]], [[Merseyside]], England? Big expansion; self-nom by [[User:Peter I. Vardy|Peter I. Vardy]] ([[User talk:Peter I. Vardy|talk]]) 16:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Davidge Gould|Sir Davidge Gould]]''', who served during the [[American Revolutionary War|American Revolutionary]], [[French Revolutionary Wars|French Revolutionary]] and the [[Napoleonic Wars]], was promoted to the rank of [[Admiral (United Kingdom)|Admiral]] in May 1825? new article by [[User:Benea]], nominated by [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 16:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Jens Landmark]]''', [[Norway|Norwegian]] [[Lieutenant Colonel]] and director of [[Kongsberg Gruppen|Kongsberg Weapons Factory]], also served three terms in the [[Storting|Norwegian Parliament]]? [[User:Punkmorten|Punkmorten]] ([[User talk:Punkmorten|talk]]) 21:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Date, hook and size verified. [[User:Manxruler|Manxruler]] ([[User talk:Manxruler|talk]]) 14:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Emily McPherson College of Domestic Economy]]''', an [[Australia|Australian]] [[family and consumer science|domestic science]] college for women, was officially opened on April 27, 1927 by Her Royal Highness [[Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon]]? new article by [[User:AshGreen]], nominated by [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 16:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that '''[[Empress Wang (Dezong)|Empress Wang]]''', the wife of [[Emperor Dezong of Tang]], was only empress for three days prior to her death in [[786]]? (self-nomination) --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 15:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Dick Trickle]], billed as the winningest short track driver in history, won his first race outside of his home region at the 1966 National Short Track Championships at '''[[Rockford Speedway]]'''? - self nom by '''<font color="#000000">[[User:Royalbroil|Royal]]</font><font color="#FFCC00">[[User talk:Royalbroil|broil]]</font>''' 14:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC) There are free use pictures available if helpful.
:*... (ALT) that '''[[Rockford Speedway]]''' is the only [[NASCAR]]-sanctioned [[Whelen All-American Series|weekly]] racetrack in [[Illinois]]? - self nom by '''<font color="#000000">[[User:Royalbroil|Royal]]</font><font color="#FFCC00">[[User talk:Royalbroil|broil]]</font>''' 14:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC) Not nearly as interesting, as most states have few NASCAR-sanctioned weekly tracks.
:**(ALT2) How about this: ... that '''[[Rockford Speedway]]''', a 1/4 mile [[short track racing|short track]] oval in the [[Rockford, Illinois]], is the only racetrack running under [[NASCAR]] sanction in [[Illinois]]? [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 17:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::In my opinion, ALT2 adds words with giving little additional "hooky"-ness. Technically the track is not in Rockford, but in the suburb Loves Park. I strongly prefer the Dick Trickle version because he is a short track legend with probably the greatest number of race feature wins of anyone in the world. Hosting the first win outside of the home region for a legendary figure is an impressive first. It shows how important the track was at that time with someone of that stature driving a relatively long distance to compete there. It's been elusive to cite Trickle's number of wins since there are no concrete records from the time, so it is disputed. People are working on figuring out an exact total. '''<font color="#000000">[[User:Royalbroil|Royal]]</font><font color="#FFCC00">[[User talk:Royalbroil|broil]]</font>''' 18:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Also, "the Rockford, Illinois" should either be "Rockford, Illinois" or "the Rockford, Illinois area". [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[South Africa]]n '''[[Jean-Michel d'Avray|Mich d'Avray]]''' played football in [[England]] and [[Holland]] before becoming the last ever [[National Soccer League]] Coach of the Year in [[Australia]]? self-nom article expansion, 409 chars to 2085. [[User:The Rambling Man|The Rambling Man]] ([[User talk:The Rambling Man|talk]]) 13:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date, hook's ref verified. [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 17:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Spain in the Eurovision Song Contest|Spain]], which placed second at [[Eurovision Song Contest|Eurovision]] in [[Eurovision Song Contest 1979|1979]] with "'''[[Su Canción]]'''", was rumored to have given high marks to a competitor so they did not have to host the international production the next year? (self-nom) [[User:Mike Halterman|Mike H.]] [[User talk:Mike Halterman|Fierce!]] 13:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
**(alternate) ... that the song "'''[[Su Canción]]'''" in [[Eurovision Song Contest 1979|1979]] earned [[Spain in the Eurovision Song Contest|Spain]] a second-place ranking at the [[Eurovision Song Contest]], which would not be achieved again until [[Eurovision Song Contest 1995|1995]]? [[User:Mike Halterman|Mike H.]] [[User talk:Mike Halterman|Fierce!]] 13:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Bob McLean (footballer)|Bob McLean]]''', who is a member of the [[Australian Football Hall of Fame]], also played [[first-class cricket]] and scored a double century in the [[Sheffield Shield]]? [[User:Crickettragic|Crickettragic]] ([[User talk:Crickettragic|talk]]) 12:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:David Lloyd George 1911.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that the [[Wales|Welsh]] politician [[David Lloyd George]] ''(pictured)'' said that he would prize no honour more highly than his '''[[List of Honorary Fellows of Jesus College, Oxford|Honorary Fellowship]]''' of [[Jesus College, Oxford]]? (self-nom, moved to mainspace today) [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 11:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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*... the '''[[Universal edit button]]''' ''(logo pictured)'' is a [[Firefox]] [[Add-on (Mozilla)|add on]] supported by many websites that informs users when the web page they are viewing contains editable content? (self-nom) - [[User:Fish and karate|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#28c"><b>fish</b></u>]]&amp;[[User_talk:Fish and karate|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#D33"><b>karate</b></u>]] 11:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
: ''The Main Page is protected!''
: Is there a svg version of the suggested pic that is not so grainy at 100x100px? --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.96|74.14.18.96]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.96|talk]]) 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::It looked fine at 68px (see now) - I'll try and ask on Commons, and see if someone can convert it to SVG. I can't find a version at present. [[User:Fish and karate|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#28c"><b>fish</b></u>]]&amp;[[User_talk:Fish and karate|<u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#D33"><b>karate</b></u>]] 07:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[William Tresham]]''' was elected as a [[Knight of the Shire]] for 12 successive parliaments? self-nom article expansion, 347 chars to 2640.
: Whose self-nom is this? --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 21:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Haruka Tomatsu]], who provides two pieces of [[theme music]] for the '''[[List of Kannagi episodes|episodes]]''' of the ''[[Kannagi (manga)#Anime|Kannagi]]'' [[anime]], is also the ''[[seiyū]]'' of one of the series' titular characters, [[Kannagi (manga)#Characters|Nagi]]? (self-nomination) — <font face="Segoe Script">[[User:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="navy">'''sephiroth bcr'''</font>]]</font> <font face="Verdana"><sup>'''([[User talk:Sephiroth BCR|<font color="blue">converse</font>]])'''</sup></font> 06:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

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*... that '''[[Oban, Saskatchewan|Oban]]''' is reknowned for having the last [[Saskatchewan]] [[Interlocking]] tower ''(pictured)'' at the [[Canadian National Railway|CNR]] and [[Canadian Pacific Railway|CPR]] [[level crossing]] which was constructed in 1910 and closed in 1990.(self-nom) [[User:SriMesh|SriMesh]] | [[User talk:SriMesh|<small>talk</small>]] 05:01, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Is "''renowned''" really the operative word? How about "... that in [[Saskatchewan]], '''[[Oban, Saskatchewan|Oban]]''' was known for having the last [[Interlocking]] tower at the [[Canadian National Railway|CNR]] and [[Canadian Pacific Railway|CPR]] [[level crossing]], until it was closed in 1990?" [[User:Wetman|Wetman]] ([[User talk:Wetman|talk]]) 16:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Thank you...that works![[User:SriMesh|SriMesh]] | [[User talk:SriMesh|<small>talk</small>]] 00:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that [[Bolivia|Bolivian]] '''[[Mollo culture]]''' drinking cups included a built-in straw? (new; self nom) --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 01:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, reference and history verified. Can we find a picture of one of these cups? This sounds interesting. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 06:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that '''[[Jock Wilson]]''', who died on September 29, 2008, at the age of 105, was [[Great Britain]]'s oldest [[Invasion of Normandy|D-Day]] veteran? (self-nom) [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 04:34, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that on '''[[Jackie Robinson Day]]''' of 2007, more than 200 baseball players wore number 42 in honor of the 60th anniversary of [[Jackie Robinson]]'s [[Major League Baseball|major league]] debut? '''Self-nom'''. Very special day for Major League Baseball, and would probably get a lot of views if it was on the [[Main Page]] along with the image. &ndash; <font color="navy" face="cursive">[[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]]</font> (<font color="navy" face="cursive">[[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]</font>) 08:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
**Are you aware that the image is non-free? --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 12:10, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::*Ah, nope, I just noticed that. Thanks, BorgQueen. &ndash; <font color="navy" face="cursive">[[User:RyanCross|'''Ryan'''Cross]]</font> (<font color="navy" face="cursive">[[User talk:RyanCross|''talk'']]</font>) 13:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::: So removed. --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.96|74.14.18.96]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.96|talk]]) 00:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that a number of babies were rescued alive and safe from the collapsed Juárez Hospital during the '''[[1985 Mexico City earthquake]]'''? ---I think it should the criteria for expansion... I did a really SERIOUS rewrite [[User:Thelmadatter|Thelmadatter]] ([[User talk:Thelmadatter|talk]]) 16:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:*6912 to 26K is a very serious rewrite, although our criterion is fivefold expansion. That's why most Did You Know articles are new, or expansions of stubs. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Brachylophus fasciatus (Fijian Iguana).jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that the '''[[Fiji Banded Iguana]]''' ''(pictured)'' is believed to have evolved from [[Green Iguana]]s that rafted on debris across 7,000 miles of [[Pacific Ocean]] from [[South America]] 13 million years ago? --Self nom after Five-fold expansion.--[[User:Mike Searson|'''Mike''']] - [[User_talk:Mike_Searson|'''Μολὼν λαβέ''']] 17:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:or
:*... that the [[Fiji]] government claims the entire US [[zoo]] population of '''[[Fiji Banded Iguana]]s''' ''(pictured)'' are descended from illegally smuggled animals? --Self nom after Five-fold expansion.--[[User:Mike Searson|'''Mike''']] - [[User_talk:Mike_Searson|'''Μολὼν λαβέ''']] 17:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that having lost his father early, jurist, farmer and [[Storting|Norwegian Parliament]] member '''[[Nils Landmark]]''' was raised by [[Jens Stub]], a [[List of members of the Norwegian Constitutional Assembly|founding father of the Norwegian Constitution]]? [[User:Punkmorten|Punkmorten]] ([[User talk:Punkmorten|talk]]) 21:25, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[Victorian era|Victorian]] painter '''[[William Shakespeare Burton]]''' was said to have dug a hole in the ground to stand in, so that he could paint the grass and ferns at eye level?
...by {{user|Ugajin}} - nom {{user|Casliber}}

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*... that the '''[[Bain Commercial Building]]''' ''(pictured)'' is the only intact [[Second Empire]]-[[architectural style|style]] building in [[Wappingers Falls, New York]]? Self-nom [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 15:45, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on October 6===

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*... that [[medicine|medical scientist]] '''[[Harald zur Hausen]]''' is recipient of both the [[Gairdner Foundation International Award]] and the [[Nobel Prize]] in 2008? -- expanded by many editors. Nom by [[User:Oceanh|Oceanh]] ([[User talk:Oceanh|talk]]) 17:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC).

*... that [[Nicholas G. Carr|Nicholas Carr]] wrote a controversial article titled "'''[[Is Google Making Us Stupid?]]'''" in the July/August 2008 edition of ''[[The Atlantic Monthly]]''? --new article, self-nom. I am working on a draft that I can use to expand the article, so length is easy to rectify if it falls short.-[[User:Manhattan Samurai|Manhattan Samurai]] ([[User talk:Manhattan Samurai|talk]]) 19:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] This article currently isn't quite long enough for Did You Know (references don't count). See [[#Instructions]] for details. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 20:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::*I'm clear for length now. Are there any other problems with my DYK?[[User:Manhattan Samurai|Manhattan Samurai]] ([[User talk:Manhattan Samurai|talk]]) 03:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::*I just do basic proofreading. See [[User:Art LaPella/Unwritten rules|"Unwritten" Rule]] H1. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 06:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
::::*Dear God. There are even unwritten rules to learn around here? Policy overload.[[User:Manhattan Samurai|Manhattan Samurai]] ([[User talk:Manhattan Samurai|talk]]) 17:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::*Imagine what it was like before I wrote those rules down. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 22:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date, hook's ref verified. -- [[User:Suntag|Suntag]] [[User talk:Suntag|<b><big><font color="#FF8C00">☼</font></big></b>]] 14:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that the British late night comedy satire TV show '''''[[Up Sunday]]''''' was described by one of the cast members as "aimed at dirty minded insomniacs"? -- new article by [[User:Bingo99]]; nom by [[User:Bruce1ee|Bruce1ee]]<sup>[[User talk:Bruce1ee|talk]]</sup> 14:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that pollution has risen in the '''[[Sundarijal]]''' reservoir in Nepal due to large amounts of tourists who crowd the area every weekend? Expanded by '''the <span style="color:#FF7F00">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|contribs]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|editor review]])'''</span> 00:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC) from an article creaqted on August 28 by '''the <span style="color:#FF7F00">[[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|contribs]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|editor review]])'''</span> 00:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:TankerSchenectady.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that the '''[[SS Schenectady|SS ''Schenectady'']]''' , an [[oil tanker]], broke almost in two whilst sitting at the dock in calm weather, before even having entered service? (selfnom, pictured) [[User:Shimgray|Shimgray]] | [[User talk:Shimgray|talk]] | 19:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Neel Kashkari]]''', six years after completing his [[MBA]], was put in charge of the $700 billion [[Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008|U.S. Government bailout of financial institutions]]. -- Quite an important article, nominated (but not written by) [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] ([[User talk:Smallbones|talk]]) 18:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that in [[Shinto]], a '''''[[gongen]]''''' represents a manifestation of a [[Buddhahood|buddha]] from [[India]] to guide the [[Japanese people]] to salvation? -- new article by {{user|Urashimataro}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 17:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''''[[Future Primitive and Other Essays]]''''' by [[anarcho-primitivism|anarcho-primitivist]] philosopher [[John Zerzan]] is regarded as an [[underground culture|underground]] classic by [[anarchists]] and [[technophobes]] alike? Self-nom by <font color="404040">[[User talk:Skomorokh|<font face="Garamond" color="black">the skomorokh</font>]]</font> 20:12, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Kings_Mills.jpg|100x100px||King's Mill|right]]
*... that '''[[King's Mill, Castle Donington|King's Mill]]''' ''(pictured)'' on the [[River Trent]] was used to grind [[wikt:flint|flints]] for the [[pottery]] industry? self nom [[User:Victuallers|Victuallers]] ([[User talk:Victuallers|talk]]) 17:54, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Altdeutscher Schaeferhund.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that after the standardisation of the [[German Shepherd Dog]], other herding dogs in Germany became known as '''[[Old German Shepherd Dog]]s''' and is now the name given to a rare modern breed ''(pictured)''? -- (is that hook okay, or is there a better way to word it?) created by [[User:Tilkin]] expansion and nom by <span style="font-family:tahoma;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;">~ [[User:Ameliorate!|<span style="color:black;">User:Ameliorate!</span>]]</span> <sup>(with the !) ([[User talk:Ameliorate!|talk]])</sup> 12:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the day that [[British East India Company]] acquired a sliver of land to build [[Fort St George]] is celebrated as '''[[Madras Day]]''' in [[Madras]] (Chennai), [[India]]? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom <font color="Orange"><b>[[User:Wikiality123|Wiki San Roze]]</b></font><sup><i> <font color="green">[[User talk:Wikiality123|†αLҝ]]</font></i></sup> 07:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[Penance|penitential]] tone of '''[[John Audelay|John Audelay's]]''' poetry may have been influenced by his sense of responsibility for his [[lord|lord's]] involvement in a fatal brawl? --Article by [[User:Svejk74]], nom by '''[[User:Iain99|Iain99]]'''<sup>[[User talk:Iain99|Balderdash]] and [[Special:Contributions/Iain99|piffle]]</sup> 22:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:MIM-46 Mauler.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that the '''[[MIM-46 Mauler]]''' ''(pictured)'' was the first in a long string of failed attempts to add armored [[anti-aircraft missile]] systems into the [[US Army]]? [[User:Maury Markowitz|Maury Markowitz]] ([[User talk:Maury Markowitz|talk]]) 22:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:St George's Church, Everton.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that '''[[St George's Church, Everton]]''' ''(pictured)'' and '''[[St Michael's Church, Aigburth]]''' were two of the three churches in [[Liverpool]] built by John Cragg which contained many [[cast iron]] components? Both articles greatly expanded: double self-nom by [[User:Peter I. Vardy|Peter I. Vardy]] ([[User talk:Peter I. Vardy|talk]]) 20:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[MTA Regional Bus Operations]]''' was created in 2008 to consolidate all bus operations formerly maintained by separate management structures at [[New York City Transit buses|MTA New York City Bus]], [[Long Island Bus|MTA Long Island Bus]], and [[MTA Bus Company|MTA Bus]]? new article by [[User:AEMoreira042281]], nominated by [[User:AdjustShift|AdjustShift]] ([[User talk:AdjustShift|talk]]) 20:00, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Swaminarayan]]'s biography, '''[[Satsangi Jeevan]]''' comprises of 19,387 [[Shloka]]s among 360 Chapters, in 5 Volumes? nomination by [[User:Juthani1|<span style="color:#ffffff;background:#ccf">&nbsp;<span style="background:#99f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#66f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#11f"><b>Juthani1</b></span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>]]<sup>[[User talk: Juthani1|t]][[Special:Contributions/Juthani1|c]][[User:Juthani1/Guest Book|s]] </sup> 19:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Date and reference confirmed, but article too short at slightly under 1000 characters. Please identify the author of an article when nominating another's work. [[User:Kablammo|Kablammo]] ([[User talk:Kablammo|talk]]) 20:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::::The article has been expanded past 100 characters. The article was created by me and [[User:Aroundtheglobe]] [[User:Juthani1|<span style="color:#ffffff;background:#ccf">&nbsp;<span style="background:#99f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#66f">&nbsp;<span style="background:#11f"><b>Juthani1</b></span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>&nbsp;</span>]]<sup>[[User talk: Juthani1|t]][[Special:Contributions/Juthani1|c]][[User:Juthani1/Guestbook|s]] </sup> 20:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that during the [[Second World War]] English [[Association football|footballer]] '''[[Jimmy Boswell]]''' served in the same army unit as four other future [[Gillingham F.C.]] players? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by [[User:ChrisTheDude|ChrisTheDude]] ([[User talk:ChrisTheDude|talk]]) 17:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that among '''[[Connecticut in the American Civil War|Connecticut's contributions to the American Civil War]]''' are the [[Henry rifle]] and the song ''[[Marching Through Georgia]]''? (created by {{user|8th Ohio Volunteers}}, nom by --[[User:Bedford|<font color="black">'''Gen. Bedford'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Bedford|<font color="green">his Forest</font>]]</sup> 16:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*<s>... that '''[[John J. Leonard]]''', a professor at [[MIT]] [[CSAIL]], aims to develop [[Autonomous robot|persistent autonomy]] techniques which allows [[robot]]s to complete long duration tasks with minimal human supervision? --self-nom, --[[User:Jiuguang Wang|Jiuguang]] ([[User talk:Jiuguang Wang|talk]]) 15:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)</s>
:[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] the expansion is sufficient, but the refs are to the subject's own work & web page, rather than to third-party sources as required. [[User:QaBobAllah|Bob]] ([[User talk:QaBobAllah|QaBob]]) 22:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::How about this new hook:
::*... that '''[[John J. Leonard]]''', a professor at [[MIT]] [[CSAIL]], developed a [[Computer vision|vision]]-based [[simultaneous localization and mapping]] (SLAM) algorithm for mapping the [[RMS Titanic]]?
::The hook is verified by a journal publication. --[[User:Jiuguang Wang|Jiuguang]] ([[User talk:Jiuguang Wang|talk]]) 16:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Statue of Zeus.jpg|right|100x100px|Attached to "Palace of Lausus" hook]]
*... that the '''[[Palace of Lausus]]''', built in early 5th-century [[Constantinople]], housed a vast collection of mythological statues, including the [[Statue of Zeus at Olympia]] ''(pictured)'', one of the [[Seven Wonders of the Ancient World]]? (self) &mdash;<strong>[[User:Anonymous Dissident|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Anonymous Dissident</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:Anonymous Dissident|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 11:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] 218 character hook. --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 18:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that in 2001, ''PR Newswire'' listed '''[[sextoy.com]]''', founded by '''[[Dave Levine]]''' as the largest company on the internet with no employees? [[User:Zithan|Zithan]] ([[User talk:Zithan|talk]]) 10:56, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Ref #3 confirms the hook, created October 6 and 5234 characters. However, I'm not entirely comfortable with a .com reference on the main page and I can't think of a way to word the hook to avoid it, anyone else have an opinion on this? <span style="font-family:tahoma;font-size:80%;font-weight:bold;">~ [[User:Ameliorate!|<span style="color:black;">User:Ameliorate!</span>]]</span> <sup>(with the !) ([[User talk:Ameliorate!|talk]])</sup> 12:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::It's an interesting hook IMHO. I don't think rewording is possible for a subject such as this. Would there be a reason not to feature a .com reference on the main page? [[User:Zithan|Zithan]] ([[User talk:Zithan|talk]]) 05:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I don't like what looks like spam on the main page. PR Newswire is not a reliable source, and "no employees" is a matter of interpretation - the article says no '''direct''' employees, but that lots of people work for them. So spam, no reliable source, and prevarication - 3 strikes and you're out (IMHO). [[User:Smallbones|Smallbones]] ([[User talk:Smallbones|talk]]) 00:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Tugboat Spence|Tugboat ''Spence'']]''' and its barge ''Guantanamo Bay Express'' deliver cargo twice-monthly from [[Naval Station Mayport]] near [[Jacksonville]], [[Florida]] to [[Naval Station Guantanamo Bay]] in [[Cuba]]? -- new article self-nom by <span style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;"><span style="color:Blue;" >[[User:Haus|<big>H</big>aus]]</span><sup><small>[[User_talk:Haus|<span style="color:Green;">Talk</span>]]</small></sup></span> 07:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[2008 in film|2008 film]] ''[[Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist]]'' was '''[[Lorene Scafaria]]'''′s ninth screenplay but first novel adaptation? (self-nom) —<font face="georgia">[[User:97198|<b>97198</b>]] <small>([[User talk:97198|talk]])</small></font> 07:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that despite being of common birth, the marriage of '''[[Falkes de Breauté]]''' made him ‘the equal of an earl’? Expanded article from 1508 chars to 9231 chars; that's what I call progress. [[User:Ironholds|<b style="color:#D3D3D3">Ir</b><b style="color:#A9A9A9">on</b><b style="color:#808080">ho</b>]][[User talk:Ironholds|<b style="color:#696969">ld</b><b style="color:#000">s</b>]] 04:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article is not well-referenced enough]] - I commend you for your expansion efforts, but this article is not sourced to enough inline citations; one primary reference is not adequate for an article of this length. &mdash;<strong>[[User:Anonymous Dissident|<span style="font-family:Script MT Bold;color:DarkRed">Anonymous Dissident</span>]]</strong>[[User_talk:Anonymous Dissident|<sup><span style="font-family:Verdana;color:Gray">Talk</span></sup>]] 05:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::This article has moere than one source, and it passes the criteria. '''the [[User:Editorofthewiki|editorofthewiki]] ([[User talk:Editorofthewiki#top|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Editorofthewiki|contribs]]/[[Wikipedia:Editor review/Editorofthewiki|editor review]])''' 22:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[William Long (politician)|William Long]]''', [[Minister of Home Affairs (Northern Ireland)|Minister of Home Affairs]] in [[Northern Ireland]] at the start of [[The Troubles]], later became the skipper of a fishing boat? (self-nom) [[User:Warofdreams|Warofdreams]] ''[[User talk:Warofdreams|talk]]'' 01:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date, hook's ref verified. --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 22:14, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[plesiosaur]] '''[[Bathyspondylus]]''' was first described in 1982 from a [[specimen]] collected in 1774? selfnom [[User:Ryan shell|Ryan shell]] ([[User talk:Ryan shell|talk]]) 01:51, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Slightly short (1449 characters). Reference and date OK. [[User:Chamal_N|<span style="color:#000080">'''C'''</span><span style="color:#0000CD">'''h'''</span><span style="color:#0000FF">'''a'''</span><span style="color:#4169E1">'''m'''</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">'''a'''</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">'''l'''</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Chamal_N|<span style="color:#693"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|<span style="color:#C6C">±</span>]] 15:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:::OK, i added a little bit to the intro and etymology which i think should put it past 1500. thanks for the heads up. [[User:Ryan shell|Ryan shell]] ([[User talk:Ryan shell|talk]]) 21:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::::[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date and ref are fine. [[User:Chamal_N|<span style="color:#000080">'''C'''</span><span style="color:#0000CD">'''h'''</span><span style="color:#0000FF">'''a'''</span><span style="color:#4169E1">'''m'''</span><span style="color:#1E90FF">'''a'''</span><span style="color:#87CEEB">'''l'''</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Chamal_N|<span style="color:#693"><sup>Talk</sup></span>]]</small> [[Special:Contributions/Chamal_N|<span style="color:#C6C">±</span>]] 13:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Arya Samaj]] spearheaded the late 19th century '''[[cow protection movement]]''', Hindu opposition to cow sacrifice, leading to riots spreading across India and the deaths of 107 people? self nom.<b><FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT" Color="#C11B17">[[User:Docku|Docku:]]</FONT><FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT" Color=" #254117">[[User talk:Docku|“what up?”]]</FONT></b> 17:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] [[User:Art LaPella/Long hook|255 character hook]], or longer after correcting "Cow protection movement ... happened ... " to "... the cow protection movement ... that happened ... ". [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
: Hooks should be a question. --[[Special:Contributions/74.14.18.96|74.14.18.96]] ([[User talk:74.14.18.96|talk]]) 00:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
::*I didn't mean to insert an ellipsis into the sentence. ALT: ... that [[Arya Samaj]] spearheaded the late 19th century '''[[cow protection movement]]''', Hindu opposition to cow sacrifice, leading to violent riots spreading all across India and the the deaths of 107 people? [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 00:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Great. 197 characters now. Thanks. <b><FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT" Color="#C11B17">[[User:Docku|Docku:]]</FONT><FONT FACE="Benguiat Bk BT" Color=" #254117">[[User talk:Docku|“what up?”]]</FONT></b> 00:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Jasper Goodwill]]''', later a [[mayor]] in [[Louisiana]], was given the middle initial "K" by the [[United States Army|Army]] during [[World War I]] as a way to enhance identification of the [[soldier]]s?--self-nom[[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 21:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
: Why would the U.S. Army care about identifying small-town mayors in Louisiana during World War I? Was Louisiana one of the Central Powers? Of course not. But this hook is rather misleading. --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 15:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

This one was hard to find a hook. The Army required doughboys to have a middle initial as a minimum for identification. I tried to rewrite it.[[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 20:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[John Harber Phillips]]''', who [[Defense (legal)|defended]] [[Lindy Chamberlain]] on a charge of [[Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|murdering her baby Azaria]], later became [[Victoria (Australia)|Victoria]]'s first [[Director of Public Prosecutions]] and subsequently the [[List of Judges of the Supreme Court of Victoria|Chief Justice]] of the [[Supreme Court of Victoria|Supreme Court]]? -- new article by {{user|Assize}}, nom. by [[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 02:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:*ALT:... that '''[[John Harber Phillips]]''', the [[Attorney at law|legal counsel]] who [[Defense (legal)|defended]] [[Lindy Chamberlain]] on a charge of [[Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|murdering her baby Azaria]], later became the first [[Director of Public Prosecutions]] in [[Victoria (Australia)|Victoria]], [[Australia]]? --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 02:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:*ALT:... that '''[[John Harber Phillips]]''', the [[Attorney at law|legal counsel]] who [[Defense (legal)|defended]] [[Lindy Chamberlain]] on a charge of [[Azaria Chamberlain disappearance|murdering her baby Azaria]], later became the [[List of Judges of the Supreme Court of Victoria|Chief Justice]] of the [[Supreme Court of Victoria|Supreme Court]] of [[Victoria (Australia)|Victoria]], [[Australia]]? --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 02:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
*... that [[Queensland]] laywer '''[[Mostyn Hanger]]''' found being [[chief justice]] a chore? [[User:Assize|Assize]] ([[User talk:Assize|talk]]) 22:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

==Expiring noms==
===Articles created/expanded on October 5===

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[[Image:Tate Britain front.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that before '''[[Charles Aitken]]''' (1869–1936) installed electric lighting, the [[Tate]] gallery ''(pictured)'' was cleared of visitors on dark and foggy days? -- new article by [[User:Jack1956]]; Nom by '''''[[User:Tyrenius|<font color="#880088">Ty</font>]]''''' 07:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Length, date and image license verified. Offline reference accepted [[WP:AGF|AGF]]. [[User:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font>''']]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/JamieS93|☆]]</sup>[[User talk:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font>''']] 19:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Chicago Bulls]] and [[Chicago White Sox]] owner '''[[Jerry Reinsdorf]]''' is a [[Certified Public Accountant|C.P.A.]] and lawyer whose first job assignment was the [[delinquency]] of then-White Sox owner [[Bill Veeck]]?--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 20:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
** Currently, only 3.8x. Hope to get to 5x by the end of the week.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 20:38, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
***Now at 4.7x.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 03:27, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
****Now over 5x.--[[User:TonyTheTiger|TonyTheTiger]] <small>([[User talk:TonyTheTiger|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/TonyTheTiger|c]]/[[User:TonyTheTiger/Antonio Vernon|bio]]/[[WP:CHICAGO]]/[[WP:LOTM]]) </small> 13:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Pine Creek from Otter Vista, horizontal.JPG|right|100x100px]]
*... that '''[[Leonard Harrison]]''' helped cut [[lumber]] in the [[Pine Creek Gorge]] in the late 1800s, then donated [[Leonard Harrison State Park]] ''(pictured)'' in the gorge to [[Pennsylvania]] in 1922? New article by [[User:Dincher|Dincher]] and [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]], self-nom by [[User:Ruhrfisch|Ruhrfisch]] '''[[User talk:Ruhrfisch|<sub><font color="green">&gt;&lt;&gt;</font></sub><small>&deg;</small><sup><small>&deg;</small></sup>]]''' 02:57, 8 October 2008 (UTC) (About 1/3 of the article is originally from the [[Leonard Harrison State Park]] article, which Dincher is the main contributor to).

*... that the '''[[Oregon State Bar]]''' was the first [[bar association]] in the U.S. to provide complete access to all attorney records it keeps, but only after a lawsuit? (self) [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 07:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that architect '''[[Sidney Eisenshtat]]''' designed a futuristic [[synagogue]] called The House of the Book that was later a filming location for ''[[Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country]]''?-- new article self-nom by [[User:Arxiloxos|Arxiloxos]] ([[User talk:Arxiloxos|talk]]) 05:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Apirak campaign poster, Bangkok 2008.jpg|right|100x100px|Campaign poster for Apirak Kosayothin in the 2008 Bangkok gubernatorial election]]
*... that pedestrians have been injured by falling campaign posters ''(example pictured)'' in the '''[[Bangkok gubernatorial election, 2008|2008 Bangkok gubernatorial election]]'''? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] <sup>([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]])</sup> 21:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:*... that the '''[[Bangkok gubernatorial election, 2008|2008 Bangkok gubernatorial election]]''' campaign ''(poster pictured)'' saw candidates bathing in a canal and punching a journalist? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] <sup>([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]])</sup> 21:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:*... that [[Apirak Kosayothin]] won the '''[[Bangkok gubernatorial election, 2008|2008 Bangkok gubernatorial election]]''', becoming the second governor to be re-elected after [[Chamlong Srimuang]], who was arrested at a polling station on the election day? -- new article self-nom by [[User:Paul_012|Paul_012]] <sup>([[User talk:Paul_012|talk]])</sup> 21:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC), reworded 17:09, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:::The second one is the best I think. '''[[User:YellowMonkey|<font color="GoldenRod">YellowMonkey</font>]]''' (''[[User talk:YellowMonkey#Straw_poll_for_selecting_photos_of_Australia_at_the_2008_Summer_Olympics|<font color="#FA8605">click here to choose Australia's next top model</font>]]'') 07:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
::::I agree. The second hook is truly hilarious. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 06:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Eduardo Galeano]]'s 1978 revolutionary chronicle '''''[[Days and Nights of Love and War]]''''' inspired [[anarchist]] collective [[CrimethInc.]] to write their manifesto ''[[Days of War, Nights of Love]]'' 22 years later? Self-nom by <font color="404040">[[User talk:Skomorokh|<font face="Garamond" color="black">the skomorokh</font>]]</font> 00:02, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:The Wrestler (Olmec) by DeLange.jpg|right|100x100px]]
*... that art historian [[George Kubler]] declared '''[[The Wrestler (sculpture)|the "Wrestler"]]''', an ancient [[Olmec]] statuette, "among the great works of sculpture of all ages"? Self-nom, [[User:Madman2001|Madman]] ([[User talk:Madman2001|talk]]) 02:25, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:*ALT:... that based on comparison with historical [[Native American]] rituals, the ancient [[Olmec]] statuette "'''[[The Wrestler (sculpture)|the Wrestler]]'''", despite its current name, may actually depict a [[shaman]] instead of a [[wrestler]]? --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 15:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::I feel that the "among the great works of sculpture of all ages" is more striking and meaningful to more people. Moreover, Kubler is more notable than the fellow who argued it was a shaman. [[User:Madman2001|Madman]] ([[User talk:Madman2001|talk]]) 18:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[Zionist Socialist Workers Party]]''' broke with the [[World Zionist Organization]], after the 1905 WZO congress had rejected the [[British Uganda Programme|proposal to resettle Jews in East Africa]]? (self-nom) --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 22:02, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Length, date verified; offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --[[User:Rosiestep|Rosiestep]] ([[User talk:Rosiestep|talk]]) 22:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::all books available on google books. --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 09:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that two companies with the name '''[[Oregon Central Railroad]]''' both claimed the same federal [[land grants]]? self-nom --[[User talk:NE2|NE2]] 20:24, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Bonne Citoyenne and Furieuse.jpg|right|100x100px]]
* ... that [[Captain (Royal Navy)|Captain]] '''[[William Mounsey]]''', in command of the much smaller '''[[HMS Bonne Citoyenne (1796)|HMS ''Bonne Citoyenne'']]''', captured a [[frigate]] ''(pictured)'' and later commanded her as '''[[HMS Furieuse (1809)|HMS ''Furieuse'']]'''? - new articles, self noms, [[User:Benea|Benea]] ([[User talk:Benea|talk]]) 19:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Tropical Storm Karina (2008)|Tropical Storm Karina]]''' was the shortest-lived storm in the [[2008 Pacific hurricane season]]? Self-nomination [[User:Cyclonebiskit|Cyclonebiskit]] ([[User talk:Cyclonebiskit|talk]]) 19:35, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
**The season is ongoing; it's still possible for another storm to achieve greater brevity. Could you change the wording of the hook the reflect that? &ndash;[[User:Juliancolton|Juliancolton]] [[User talk:Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''T'''ropical</sup></font>]] [[Special:contributions/Juliancolton|<font color="#66666"><sup>'''C'''yclone</sup></font>]] 18:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that '''[[Nathan Hale (character)|Nathan Hale]]''' is the main protagonist as well as the player character of [[Resistance: Fall of Man]] and [[Resistance 2]]? -- (self nom) [[User:Poxnar|Poxnar]] ([[User talk:Poxnar|talk]]) 16:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that the [[Tang Dynasty]] [[chancellor of Tang Dynasty|chancellor]] '''[[Chang Gun]]''' was demoted over [[Emperor Dezong of Tang|Emperor Dezong]]'s erroneous belief that he had falsified signatures from his colleagues [[Guo Ziyi]] and [[Zhu Ci]]? (self-nomination) --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 15:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Kang Hye-jeong]] made her feature film debut in '''''[[Nabi (film)|Nabi]]''''', and won Best Actress at the [[Puchon International Fantastic Film Festival]]? -- self nom, [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 13:48, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the '''[[MSSR rifle]]''' was created by the [[Philippine Marine Corps#Marine Scout Snipers|Philippine Marine Corps Scout Snipers]] from the [[M16 rifle]] due to budget problems and the lack of a dedicated [[sniper rifle]]? - Self-nominated [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 08:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Arthur Wimperis]]''', after a long career as a songwriter and librettist for British [[musical theatre|musical comedies]], became an [[Academy Award]]-winning screenwriter in [[Hollywood]]? (self nom) -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 06:30, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:*His ''Times'' obit notes that his ship was torpedoed on the way to the US, perhaps add "surviving a torpedo attack on the way" to the end of the hook? (Should still be inside the character limit). [[User:David Underdown|David Underdown]] ([[User talk:David Underdown|talk]]) 12:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::It's OK with me, although it might be too complex for a hook. I'll leave it to the DYK hook experts. Feel free to add or not! -- [[User:Ssilvers|Ssilvers]] ([[User talk:Ssilvers|talk]]) 14:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[Wales|Welsh]] inventor '''[[Edwin Stevens]]''' devised the world's first wearable electronic [[hearing aid]]? new/self-nom by [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i><sup>Talk</sup></i>]] 06:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Length and date verified — offline and Oxford login refs accepted on [[WP:AGF|good faith]]. [[User:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font>''']]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/JamieS93|☆]]</sup>[[User talk:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font>''']] 19:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that an [[oil painting]] by '''[[Ryūsei Kishida]]''' was auctioned for 7.731 billion [[yen]], the highest price ever achieved for a [[Japanese painting]]? (self-nom) --[[User:MChew|MChew]] ([[User talk:MChew|talk]]) 06:27, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Pictogram voting keep.svg|18px]] Length and date verified, print reference accepted in [[WP:AGF|good faith]]. I removed the "in December 2000" bit from the end of your hook to make it a little more catchy and clearer that it was the highest price of ''all time''. Thanks, [[User:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font>''']]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/JamieS93|☆]]</sup>[[User talk:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font>''']] 19:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that the [[Tang Dynasty]] official '''[[Yang Wan]]''' declined a customary stipend as a senior official of his rank and distributed the stipend to his colleagues? (self-nomination) --[[User:Nlu|Nlu]] ([[User talk:Nlu|talk]]) 02:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that the [[manga]] '''''[[Black God (manga)|Black God]]''''' was created by a Korean [[manhwa]] team, all of them not knowing the [[Japanese language]]? - Self-nom [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 01:37, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
**<s>The manga title needs to be italicized, per [[Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(titles)#Italics]]. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 04:03, 5 October 2008 (UTC)</s>
***<s>Whoops! My bad! [[User:Ominae|Ominae]] ([[User talk:Ominae|talk]]) 04:31, 5 October 2008 (UTC)</s>

*... that '''[[Jack Montgomery (Louisiana politician)|Jack Montgomery]]''', a [[Louisiana State Legislature|Louisiana state senator]] from [[1968]] to [[1972]], was preceded and succeeded in the post by [[Harold Montgomery]], and they were unrelated?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 21:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that the [[Columbia Broadcasting System|CBS]] [[sitcom]] '''[[The New Loretta Young Show]]''' ([[1962]]&ndash;[[1963]]) featured [[Loretta Young]] as a free-lance writer in [[Connecticut]] and the [[widowed]] mother of seven children?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 02:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:OR
:*... that the [[1962]]&mdash;[[1963]] [[Columbia Broadcasting System|CBS]] [[sitcom]] '''[[The New Loretta Young Show]]''' introduced audiences to later stars [[Dack Rambo]] and [[Ted Knight]]?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 02:48, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::I prefer this one. The first one is akin to "Late Night with David Letterman featured David Letterman, a married man. The second one is good. [[User:Chergles|Chergles]] ([[User talk:Chergles|talk]]) 18:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Wynkoop House, Saugerties, NY.jpg|100x100px|right]]
*... that unlike other [[Dutch colonization of the Americas|Dutch Colonial]] stone houses in the [[Hudson Valley]], the '''[[Wynkoop House]]''' ''(pictured)'' has no stone with the builder's initials? Self-nom [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 06:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date and reference verified. Finally found that fact on the 7th page of your ref, I believe. ;-) [[User:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font>''']]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/JamieS93|☆]]</sup>[[User talk:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font>''']] 19:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that [[Australia]]n politican '''[[Charlie Lynn]]''' held the New South Wales 24-hour Ultra Marathon record in 1985 and 1986? [[User:Assize|Assize]] ([[User talk:Assize|talk]]) 11:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol confirmed.svg|18px]] Length, date and referencing verified. [[User:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="green">Jamie</font>''']]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/JamieS93|☆]]</sup>[[User talk:JamieS93|'''<font face="Bradley Hand ITC" size="2px" color="blue">S93</font>''']] 19:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

===Articles created/expanded on October 4===
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*... that Julie Couillard's tell-all memoir '''''[[My Story (Julie Couillard)|My Story]]''''', which reveals confidential opinions that [[Maxime Bernier]] shared with Couillard, was released eight days before the [[Canadian federal election, 2008|Canadian federal election]] in which Bernier is seeking re-election? -- new article by [[User:Maclean25|maclean]] 20:15, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
:: Poll stations for Bernier's re-election open next Tuesday. Eight days before that was just two days ago. This book is already notable enough to get an article? --[[Special:Contributions/74.13.125.9|74.13.125.9]] ([[User talk:74.13.125.9|talk]]) 21:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Notable? Yes, it has been getting lots of press coverage and book reviews in all the national (and many local) newspapers and even an excerpt in the National Post. [http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&um=1&tab=wn&nolr=1&q=%22My+Story%22+Couillard&btnG=Search+News Google News] --[[User:Maclean25|maclean]] 06:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
::::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Hook is too long at 229 characters &mdash; it should be 200 or less. [[User:Cunard|Cunard]] ([[User talk:Cunard|talk]]) 07:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

[[Image:Art Building Willamette front 2008.JPG|right|100x100px]]
*... that the '''[[Art Building (Willamette University)|Art Building]]''' ''(pictured)'' is the third oldest building at [[Willamette University]] in [[Salem, Oregon]], but has been on campus longer than all but one other building? (self) [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 06:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] The article needs to be clearer about the last part of the hook. I can't find it explicitly ... is this something I'm supposed to deduce from other information? Clarify. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
::The older buildings are Waller and Gatke halls. Gatke was moved to campus after this building, which is mentioned/cited in the second paragraph of the history section. Its more of a teaser hook. Would you like it explained in the article? [[User:Aboutmovies|Aboutmovies]] ([[User talk:Aboutmovies|talk]]) 08:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Cubbon Park]]''', also called Sri. Chamarajendra Park, in Bangalore has indigenous and exotic botanical species of 68 genera and 96 species with about 6000 plants/trees?--[[User:Nvvchar|Nvvchar]] ([[User talk:Nvvchar|talk]]) 17:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:*[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] A couple of problems, I get a 4X expansion (using [[User:Dr pda/prosesize.js]]), 1645 to 6609 = 4X. And the hook is not specifically cited within the article, the closest citation (#3) takes you [http://www.horticulture.kar.nic.in/ here] which has no specifics about the hook. --[[User:Captain-tucker|Captain-tucker]] ([[User talk:Captain-tucker|talk]]) 20:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::I have added some photos. I counted on the basis of all the text and photos which comes to 10517 bites (more than five times the original text). I was not aware of the formula that you have referred. As regards the Park, it has to be viewed as a complex(may be a change in the heading of the article into 'Cubbon Park complex' instead of Cubbon Park}as it is very well known for its Park as also for the monuments and bulidings located within it.If the criteria of length permits, kindly suggest a suitable revised hook which I can post. I will be thankful.--[[User:Nvvchar|Nvvchar]] ([[User talk:Nvvchar|talk]]) 04:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::[[#Instructions]] specifies that the main body text portion of the article (prose), not all of the text and photos, should expand 5 times. Thus adding photos doesn't change the prose portion length of 6609, and it's still 4X. Prosesize.js is a tool for automating all the things we exclude from the article to get the prose portion (see [[#Instructions]] and [[User:Art LaPella/Unwritten rules|"Unwritten" Rule]] A2). If you could add 1616 characters of prose (not photos), that objection would be satisfied.
:::Captain-tucker also noted "the hook is not specifically cited ... ". [[Wikipedia:Did you know#Selection criteria]] says: "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." Thus the fact that the park is a complex doesn't address this objection, and revising the hook wouldn't address that objection either. What would address that objection is to find a source that verifies there are 68 genera, 96 species and about 6000 plants/trees, and to add a citation for that source to the article, right after the first sentence of [[Cubbon Park#Botanical assets]]. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 06:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::The authoriy quoted for the botancial statistics at number 3 of references is the Government of Karnataka organization called the "Horticulture Department" which is the authority in Karnataka on all Horticulture and is in charge of the Gardens in the state and the Cubbon Park is one of them. The web site under the heading Gardens provides the details of the Cubbon Park. I can't cite a better authentic source than this. But the main problem is of length. I don't have any text at present (unless I add superfluous stuff to the text of paras already added) to expand it by another 1616 bites. I will have to wait. Thanks for all the clarifications on the rules of DYK.--[[User:Nvvchar|Nvvchar]] ([[User talk:Nvvchar|talk]]) 10:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::I believe the citation objection would be overcome by adding instructions in the reference to click "Gardens" and then "Cubbon Park" (I couldn't make a direct link work), rather than making people look for it. Also, it should be linked from the article's supporting sentence, not from the next sentence. As for waiting, you probably know that the article will no longer qualify as new in five days or so. [[User:Art LaPella|Art LaPella]] ([[User talk:Art LaPella|talk]]) 17:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
::::::Thank you very much for the suggestions. I have added more text and I hope it satisfies the length criteria. I have also made changes in the reference at 3 related to the Horticulture Departmentas as "Garden Cubbon Park". A modified hook with an image is now introduced below.
[[Image:Cubbon Partk.JPG|thumb|right|100x100px]]
:*... that '''[[Cubbon Park]]''' has indigenous and exotic botanical species of 68 genera and 96 species with about 6000 plants/trees and is also called Sri.Chamarajendra Park? --[[User:Nvvchar|Nvvchar]] ([[User talk:Nvvchar|talk]]) 07:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] Link cited for this one [[HTTP 404|404]]s. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 03:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

* ... that anyone who has [[loan]]ed or [[borrow]]ed money has participated in the '''[[loanable funds]]''' market, a hypothetical [[market]] that brings savers and borrowers together? <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 17:05, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
:: I'm a bit concerned that the article appears to draw only on one source, and with under 5,000 Google hits most of the links out there also seem to point to the same source. I've heard the term loanable funds used, but never loanable funds market, probably because as you say it is a "theoretical market" and not a real one, whereas my firm deals with systems for making and assessing trades in the real markets. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 21:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
::: What do you think of moving it to [[Loanable funds]]? <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 03:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::: I have moved the article. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Gary King|<font color="#02e">Gary</font>&nbsp;<font color="#02b"><b>King</b></font>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Gary King|<font color="#02e">talk</font>]])</font> 17:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:::::[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] It's tagged with both {{tl|refimprove}} and {{tl|notability}}. These issues need to be resolved before any Main Page appearance. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

*... that '''[[Tam Spiva]]''', though from a family of small-town [[newspaper]] [[publisher]]s, wrote [[television]] scripts, for such [[television series|series]] as ''[[The Brady Bunch]]'' and ''[[Gentle Ben]]''?--self-nom [[User:Billy Hathorn|Billy Hathorn]] ([[User talk:Billy Hathorn|talk]]) 00:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
:[[Image:Symbol possible vote.svg|18px|This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues]] We need a source for the ''Gentle Ben'' credits (and for this IMdB is OK). [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 02:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

==See also==
*[[User:AlexNewArtBot/GoodSearchResult]] – This is an automated list of promising new articles generated by {{User3|AlexNewArtBot}}.

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Articles created/expanded on October 11

Masdevallia veitichiana
Masdevallia veitichiana
NSU Quickly
NSU Quickly
  • I've seen them before on the main page. I know it doesn't say anything, but it's supposed to entice readers to come to the article to find out the answer. ~one of many editorofthewikis (talk/contribs/editor review)~ 03:43, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 10

  • ... that Dipor Bil reportedly provides its natural resources for the livelihood of fourteen indigenous villages (1,200 families) located in its wetland ecosystem in Assam? --Nvvchar (talk) 03:07, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that The New York Times moved in 1858 to a building at 41 Park Row, making it the first newspaper in New York City housed in a building built specifically for its use? new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Ruffed Lemurs (pictured) are the only known primates to build arboreal nests, used exclusively for birth and for the first week or two of life? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Visionholder (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Note - Sorry for the duplicate DYK for Ruffed Lemur, but I had been planning this DYK for weeks, but my Internet connection died for 7 hours immediately after I posted the re-write, and my good friend Rlendog beat me here. - Visionholder (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted the duplicate.Rlendog (talk) 02:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Deleted, as the author prefers a different hook.Rlendog (talk) 02:50, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the Chagrin Falls Popcorn Shop was featured in "The Essential Calvin and Hobbes," showing a Godzilla-sized Calvin carrying off the entire building? (new article, self-nom) ∞☼Geaugagrrl(T)/(C) 05:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I've removed the image; Non-free images are not allowed here. --BorgQueen (talk) 13:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
USS Nevada (BB-36)
USS Nevada (BB-36)
  • ... that early in his career, Hungarian painter István Réti travelled to Turin, where he painted the body of 1848 revolutionary Lajos Kossuth, who had died there recently? -- self-nom by Biruitorul Talk 02:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Length, date, reference verified. The sourse is Muzeul Secuiesc al Ciucului in Miercurea Ciuc, Romania, which has an excellent site in both Hungarian and Romanian (I still have to find there a grammar mistake). The particular bibliography is based, according to the Museum webpage, on 3 history of art books that appeared resp. in 1944, 1954 and 1960. The fact is clearly stated in lines 3-4 without the possibility of a double interpretation. So, if the researchers in the books don't lie, and if the museographs copied well from them, it is true. Dc76\talk 03:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 9

File:Nabi Samwil early 1900s.jpg
I guess you mean this Samuel? Manxruler (talk) 02:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, that's him. --Al Ameer son (talk) 04:25, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Execution of Michał Kruk, Przemyśl, 1943
Execution of Michał Kruk, Przemyśl, 1943
Portrait of Isaac Massa by Franz Hals, 1626
Portrait of Isaac Massa by Franz Hals, 1626
  • .. that the first European map of the Siberian Arctic coast was obtained and published by Dutchman Isaac Massa (portrait pictured)? new, self-nom NVO (talk) 23:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Altar centre-piece, Solna Church
Altar centre-piece, Solna Church
  • ... that Solna Church (altar pictured), a round church in Stockholm from the late 12th century, was originally built for defense purposes? --self-nom. Oceanh (talk) 22:56, 9 October 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Please embolden the new/expanded article. Thanks. -- how do you turn this on 19:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done :) Thanks, Vishnava talk 19:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that after being rejected from HaShomer, a Jewish defense organization in Ottoman Palestine, Yosef Lishansky founded a rival group called HaMagen, operating in the south of the country? (self-nom) -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Church of St Demetrius of Thessaloniki, Veliko Tarnovo
Church of St Demetrius of Thessaloniki, Veliko Tarnovo
  • Relations between whom? Suggest rewording: "Germany helped India establish IIT Madras ..." – Otherwise, date, length and references OK.  Sandstein  10:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 8

Ontario also has more residents than most provinces. --74.13.125.9 (talk) 04:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, however that's not mentioned in the article. The article is about Canadian universities. Gary King (talk) 04:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues It's a nicely done article, and its certainly something that is unlikely to be found elsewhere, but it doesn't have enough prose to qualify as per the #Instructions. Perhaps you could add an overview of Canadian universities as an intro? Thingg 05:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"# Prose size (text only): 1717 B (283 words) "readable prose size"" actually. Anyways, the lead should be expanded on shortly, also. But, it does indeed meet the criteria. Gary King (talk) 18:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Baahh. I can't count... Article expanded from 9000 to 18000+ bytes, prose expanded from 42 to 1700+ characters, reference good. Thingg 18:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that after his son was murdered during an university study abroad program in 2004, American entrepreneur Tom Petters, himself a college dropout, formed the John T. Petters Foundation to provide endowments that would benefit future students at several universities? -- new article by User:TedSaidMed and Bobak (talk) 23:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • TWEAK (now 199): that after his son was murdered during a study abroad program, American entrepreneur Tom Petters formed a foundation to provide endowments that would benefit future students at several universities? -- Bobak (talk) 15:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that footballer Peter Stringfellow suffered a dramatic decline in form, which ultimately ended his professional career, after being involved in a car crash in which a team-mate died? -- new article self-nom by ChrisTheDude (talk) 21:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
File:The First of May.jpg
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues 216 character hook. ... that Zac Brown Band's single "Chicken Fried" was previously released by The Lost Trailers, whose version was withdrawn after Zac Brown changed his mind about licensing the song to that record label? is 198 characters. Thingg 04:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note This will be the 50th DYK for an article I've created/expanded. Current total is 48 created/expanded + 2 nominated. Mjroots (talk) 10:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Image for Filipino proverbs, Damiana Eugenio, Philippine Folklore hook
Image for Filipino proverbs, Damiana Eugenio, Philippine Folklore hook
  • ... that Filipino proverbs were grouped into six categories by Damiana Eugenio, a professor and author known as the Mother of Philippine Folklore (sample myth pictured)? – self-nom/article created from a simple list, hook count at 127 characters (no spaces) / 150 (with spaces), article’s character count at 2,084 (no spaces) / 2,472 (with spaces) - AnakngAraw (talk) 04:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Note: Above suggested hook is now a double selfnom because I also created an article about Damiana Eugenio in addition to the Filipino proverbs article; current hook above now linked to this newly created article (and now bolded too) which has 1,886 characters (no spaces) / 2,331 (with spaces). Thanks. - AnakngAraw (talk) 16:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
When is election day? November? --74.13.125.9 (talk) 21:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
November 4. At least this isn't the Main Page. Art LaPella (talk) 21:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure if we should wait till November 4. Too long a wait, IMO. --74.13.125.9 (talk) 04:37, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
Houses on Garfield Place
Houses on Garfield Place

Articles created/expanded on October 7

Expansion started on 7 October, from around 7kB to almost 40kB. JonCatalán(Talk) 15:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Renaissance woodcuts by Hans Wechtlin (example pictured) cover both the chivalric ideal of war and graphic details of war wounds? self-nom by Johnbod (talk) 01:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that M-67, a state highway in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, has remained essentially unchanged but the highways connecting to it have changed three times since 1919? — self-nomination after 5.89x expansion. History section cited by maps showing the changes in connecting highways. Highway marker shield available if desired Imzadi1979 (talk) 04:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Say where it is! OK Johnbod (talk) 01:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, time, off-line sources accepted, 2786/474 = 5.88x expansion
Speaker iconMarguerite Sylva in 1910

I like the first hook, but would shorten it to: "*... that Marguerite Sylva modestly told W. S. Gilbert, at her sister's audition, that she "sang a little" and, after demonstrating, was offered a part? -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:12, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That works quite well. Of course, we'd need to mention the recording or picture in some form, if they're used. Of course, this is only part of a rather fascinating anecdote, but, hey, that's why we're linking to the article. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Date, hook and size verified. Manxruler (talk) 14:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Dick Trickle, billed as the winningest short track driver in history, won his first race outside of his home region at the 1966 National Short Track Championships at Rockford Speedway? - self nom by Royalbroil 14:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC) There are free use pictures available if helpful.[reply]
In my opinion, ALT2 adds words with giving little additional "hooky"-ness. Technically the track is not in Rockford, but in the suburb Loves Park. I strongly prefer the Dick Trickle version because he is a short track legend with probably the greatest number of race feature wins of anyone in the world. Hosting the first win outside of the home region for a legendary figure is an impressive first. It shows how important the track was at that time with someone of that stature driving a relatively long distance to compete there. It's been elusive to cite Trickle's number of wins since there are no concrete records from the time, so it is disputed. People are working on figuring out an exact total. Royalbroil 18:27, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, "the Rockford, Illinois" should either be "Rockford, Illinois" or "the Rockford, Illinois area". Art LaPella (talk) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, hook's ref verified. AdjustShift (talk) 17:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Main Page is protected!
Is there a svg version of the suggested pic that is not so grainy at 100x100px? --74.14.18.96 (talk) 00:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It looked fine at 68px (see now) - I'll try and ask on Commons, and see if someone can convert it to SVG. I can't find a version at present. fish&karate 07:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whose self-nom is this? --74.13.125.9 (talk) 21:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is "renowned" really the operative word? How about "... that in Saskatchewan, Oban was known for having the last Interlocking tower at the CNR and CPR level crossing, until it was closed in 1990?" Wetman (talk) 16:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you...that works!SriMesh | talk 00:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, reference and history verified. Can we find a picture of one of these cups? This sounds interesting. Daniel Case (talk) 06:29, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ah, nope, I just noticed that. Thanks, BorgQueen. – RyanCross (talk) 13:51, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
So removed. --74.14.18.96 (talk) 00:10, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that a number of babies were rescued alive and safe from the collapsed Juárez Hospital during the 1985 Mexico City earthquake? ---I think it should the criteria for expansion... I did a really SERIOUS rewrite Thelmadatter (talk) 16:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • 6912 to 26K is a very serious rewrite, although our criterion is fivefold expansion. That's why most Did You Know articles are new, or expansions of stubs. Art LaPella (talk) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
or

...by Ugajin (talk · contribs) - nom Casliber (talk · contribs)

Articles created/expanded on October 6

  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues This article currently isn't quite long enough for Did You Know (references don't count). See #Instructions for details. Art LaPella (talk) 20:39, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dear God. There are even unwritten rules to learn around here? Policy overload.Manhattan Samurai (talk) 17:34, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Imagine what it was like before I wrote those rules down. Art LaPella (talk) 22:39, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date, hook's ref verified. -- Suntag 14:51, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the British late night comedy satire TV show Up Sunday was described by one of the cast members as "aimed at dirty minded insomniacs"? -- new article by User:Bingo99; nom by Bruce1eetalk 14:17, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the SS Schenectady , an oil tanker, broke almost in two whilst sitting at the dock in calm weather, before even having entered service? (selfnom, pictured) Shimgray | talk | 19:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
King's Mill
King's Mill
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Date and reference confirmed, but article too short at slightly under 1000 characters. Please identify the author of an article when nominating another's work. Kablammo (talk) 20:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been expanded past 100 characters. The article was created by me and User:Aroundtheglobe    Juthani1   tcs 20:07, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues the expansion is sufficient, but the refs are to the subject's own work & web page, rather than to third-party sources as required. Bob (QaBob) 22:13, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How about this new hook:
The hook is verified by a journal publication. --Jiuguang (talk) 16:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Attached to "Palace of Lausus" hook
Attached to "Palace of Lausus" hook
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues 218 character hook. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:03, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Ref #3 confirms the hook, created October 6 and 5234 characters. However, I'm not entirely comfortable with a .com reference on the main page and I can't think of a way to word the hook to avoid it, anyone else have an opinion on this? ~ User:Ameliorate! (with the !) (talk) 12:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's an interesting hook IMHO. I don't think rewording is possible for a subject such as this. Would there be a reason not to feature a .com reference on the main page? Zithan (talk) 05:10, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't like what looks like spam on the main page. PR Newswire is not a reliable source, and "no employees" is a matter of interpretation - the article says no direct employees, but that lots of people work for them. So spam, no reliable source, and prevarication - 3 strikes and you're out (IMHO). Smallbones (talk) 00:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that despite being of common birth, the marriage of Falkes de Breauté made him ‘the equal of an earl’? Expanded article from 1508 chars to 9231 chars; that's what I call progress. Ironholds 04:46, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article is not well-referenced enough - I commend you for your expansion efforts, but this article is not sourced to enough inline citations; one primary reference is not adequate for an article of this length. —Anonymous DissidentTalk 05:58, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article has moere than one source, and it passes the criteria. the editorofthewiki (talk/contribs/editor review) 22:39, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date, hook's ref verified. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:14, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Slightly short (1449 characters). Reference and date OK. Chamal Talk ± 15:12, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, i added a little bit to the intro and etymology which i think should put it past 1500. thanks for the heads up. Ryan shell (talk) 21:08, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date and ref are fine. Chamal Talk ± 13:28, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues 255 character hook, or longer after correcting "Cow protection movement ... happened ... " to "... the cow protection movement ... that happened ... ". Art LaPella (talk) 23:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hooks should be a question. --74.14.18.96 (talk) 00:17, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't mean to insert an ellipsis into the sentence. ALT: ... that Arya Samaj spearheaded the late 19th century cow protection movement, Hindu opposition to cow sacrifice, leading to violent riots spreading all across India and the the deaths of 107 people? Art LaPella (talk) 00:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great. 197 characters now. Thanks. Docku:“what up?” 00:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why would the U.S. Army care about identifying small-town mayors in Louisiana during World War I? Was Louisiana one of the Central Powers? Of course not. But this hook is rather misleading. --74.13.125.9 (talk) 15:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This one was hard to find a hook. The Army required doughboys to have a middle initial as a minimum for identification. I tried to rewrite it.Billy Hathorn (talk) 20:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on October 5

  • ... that before Charles Aitken (1869–1936) installed electric lighting, the Tate gallery (pictured) was cleared of visitors on dark and foggy days? -- new article by User:Jack1956; Nom by Ty 07:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and image license verified. Offline reference accepted AGF. JamieS93 19:05, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Campaign poster for Apirak Kosayothin in the 2008 Bangkok gubernatorial election
Campaign poster for Apirak Kosayothin in the 2008 Bangkok gubernatorial election
The second one is the best I think. YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model) 07:14, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. The second hook is truly hilarious. --BorgQueen (talk) 06:22, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I feel that the "among the great works of sculpture of all ages" is more striking and meaningful to more people. Moreover, Kubler is more notable than the fellow who argued it was a shaman. Madman (talk) 18:57, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length, date verified; offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
all books available on google books. --Soman (talk) 09:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • His Times obit notes that his ship was torpedoed on the way to the US, perhaps add "surviving a torpedo attack on the way" to the end of the hook? (Should still be inside the character limit). David Underdown (talk) 12:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's OK with me, although it might be too complex for a hook. I'll leave it to the DYK hook experts. Feel free to add or not! -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:23, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified — offline and Oxford login refs accepted on good faith. JamieS93 19:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length and date verified, print reference accepted in good faith. I removed the "in December 2000" bit from the end of your hook to make it a little more catchy and clearer that it was the highest price of all time. Thanks, JamieS93 19:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that the Tang Dynasty official Yang Wan declined a customary stipend as a senior official of his rank and distributed the stipend to his colleagues? (self-nomination) --Nlu (talk) 02:34, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OR
I prefer this one. The first one is akin to "Late Night with David Letterman featured David Letterman, a married man. The second one is good. Chergles (talk) 18:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and reference verified. Finally found that fact on the 7th page of your ref, I believe. ;-) JamieS93 19:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Length, date and referencing verified. JamieS93 19:01, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on October 4

Poll stations for Bernier's re-election open next Tuesday. Eight days before that was just two days ago. This book is already notable enough to get an article? --74.13.125.9 (talk) 21:26, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Notable? Yes, it has been getting lots of press coverage and book reviews in all the national (and many local) newspapers and even an excerpt in the National Post. Google News --maclean 06:36, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Hook is too long at 229 characters — it should be 200 or less. Cunard (talk) 07:44, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues The article needs to be clearer about the last part of the hook. I can't find it explicitly ... is this something I'm supposed to deduce from other information? Clarify. Daniel Case (talk) 03:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The older buildings are Waller and Gatke halls. Gatke was moved to campus after this building, which is mentioned/cited in the second paragraph of the history section. Its more of a teaser hook. Would you like it explained in the article? Aboutmovies (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ... that Cubbon Park, also called Sri. Chamarajendra Park, in Bangalore has indigenous and exotic botanical species of 68 genera and 96 species with about 6000 plants/trees?--Nvvchar (talk) 17:15, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues A couple of problems, I get a 4X expansion (using User:Dr pda/prosesize.js), 1645 to 6609 = 4X. And the hook is not specifically cited within the article, the closest citation (#3) takes you here which has no specifics about the hook. --Captain-tucker (talk) 20:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have added some photos. I counted on the basis of all the text and photos which comes to 10517 bites (more than five times the original text). I was not aware of the formula that you have referred. As regards the Park, it has to be viewed as a complex(may be a change in the heading of the article into 'Cubbon Park complex' instead of Cubbon Park}as it is very well known for its Park as also for the monuments and bulidings located within it.If the criteria of length permits, kindly suggest a suitable revised hook which I can post. I will be thankful.--Nvvchar (talk) 04:59, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
#Instructions specifies that the main body text portion of the article (prose), not all of the text and photos, should expand 5 times. Thus adding photos doesn't change the prose portion length of 6609, and it's still 4X. Prosesize.js is a tool for automating all the things we exclude from the article to get the prose portion (see #Instructions and "Unwritten" Rule A2). If you could add 1616 characters of prose (not photos), that objection would be satisfied.
Captain-tucker also noted "the hook is not specifically cited ... ". Wikipedia:Did you know#Selection criteria says: "The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." Thus the fact that the park is a complex doesn't address this objection, and revising the hook wouldn't address that objection either. What would address that objection is to find a source that verifies there are 68 genera, 96 species and about 6000 plants/trees, and to add a citation for that source to the article, right after the first sentence of Cubbon Park#Botanical assets. Art LaPella (talk) 06:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The authoriy quoted for the botancial statistics at number 3 of references is the Government of Karnataka organization called the "Horticulture Department" which is the authority in Karnataka on all Horticulture and is in charge of the Gardens in the state and the Cubbon Park is one of them. The web site under the heading Gardens provides the details of the Cubbon Park. I can't cite a better authentic source than this. But the main problem is of length. I don't have any text at present (unless I add superfluous stuff to the text of paras already added) to expand it by another 1616 bites. I will have to wait. Thanks for all the clarifications on the rules of DYK.--Nvvchar (talk) 10:46, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the citation objection would be overcome by adding instructions in the reference to click "Gardens" and then "Cubbon Park" (I couldn't make a direct link work), rather than making people look for it. Also, it should be linked from the article's supporting sentence, not from the next sentence. As for waiting, you probably know that the article will no longer qualify as new in five days or so. Art LaPella (talk) 17:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the suggestions. I have added more text and I hope it satisfies the length criteria. I have also made changes in the reference at 3 related to the Horticulture Departmentas as "Garden Cubbon Park". A modified hook with an image is now introduced below.
  • ... that Cubbon Park has indigenous and exotic botanical species of 68 genera and 96 species with about 6000 plants/trees and is also called Sri.Chamarajendra Park? --Nvvchar (talk) 07:01, 6 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues Link cited for this one 404s. Daniel Case (talk) 03:01, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a bit concerned that the article appears to draw only on one source, and with under 5,000 Google hits most of the links out there also seem to point to the same source. I've heard the term loanable funds used, but never loanable funds market, probably because as you say it is a "theoretical market" and not a real one, whereas my firm deals with systems for making and assessing trades in the real markets. Guy (Help!) 21:08, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think of moving it to Loanable funds? Gary King (talk) 03:06, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have moved the article. Gary King (talk) 17:40, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues It's tagged with both {{refimprove}} and {{notability}}. These issues need to be resolved before any Main Page appearance. Daniel Case (talk) 02:59, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This article's hook is unsourced or too long or there are other content issues We need a source for the Gentle Ben credits (and for this IMdB is OK). Daniel Case (talk) 02:47, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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