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'''''No Man's Land''''' is a [[Play (theatre)|play]] by 2005 [[Nobel Prize in Literature|Nobel in Literature Laureate]] [[Harold Pinter]] written in 1974 and first produced and published in 1975. |
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==Portal Management== |
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==Setting== |
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"A large room in a house in North West London" on a summer night ([9]). |
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To anyone who comes across this portal: please feel free to help out! These are my suggestions for rotations and whatnot: |
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==Characters== |
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* News should be updated continuously, but not all "paddock rumors" or driver comments need be noted; only significant things such as driver changes, a blurb on the result of each race, etc. Each item should have an external source, and the link to the subject of the item should be in bold. |
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:[From the Grove Press edition of the play:] |
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* Rotate the Featured Article and Featured Picture once a week, but maybe at different times of the week - one on Saturdays and the other on Wednesdays, perhaps. Selections should be decided here beforehand; only freely-licensed pictures should be eligible for featuring. |
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*Hirst, ''a man in his sixties'' |
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* The preview for the next race should be changed immediately after a race finishes, and may be updated until the event with relevant news, comments, etc. |
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*Spooner, ''a man in his sixties'' |
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* Standings should (obviously) be updated immediately after every race. |
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*Foster, ''a man in his thirties'' |
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* Are there enough new F1 articles and interesting F1 facts to justify a "Did you know" box? |
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*Briggs, ''a man in his forties'' |
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Comments? — [[User:Rdsmith4|Dan]]|[[User talk:Rdsmith4|Talk]] 15:13, 16 August 2005 (UTC) |
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There're plenty enough 'Did you know?' facts to keep turning those over. Although some of the 'facts' on the F1 pages need checking before they are used! See below for a suggestion on storing them somewhere so this can be done easily. How is this done for the Wikipedia front page? |
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Hirst is an alcoholic upper-class writer who lives in an upscale house (presumed to be in Hampstead) with Foster and Briggs, his purported [[amanuensis]] and [[Domestic worker|man servant]] (or body guard), respectively. Spooner, whom Hirst has picked up in a tavern and invited home for a drink, becomes Hirst's house guest for the night, claims to be a poet as well and, through a contest of at least-partly fantastic reminiscences, appears to have known Hirst at university and to have shared mutual male and female acquaintances and relationships. |
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Good articles might be in shorter supply - but as a starter, how about replacing the McLaren item with the Renault article, which seems to be in quite a good state? 4u1e 8 March 06 |
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==Plot synopsis== |
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The first act opens with Hirst's offering a drink to Spooner, a man whom it soon appears he has picked up in a tavern and taken home: "As it comes?" (15). During the first act, Spooner claims to be a fellow poet and to have known his more illustrious host and mutual acquaintances and relationships in the past. Toward the end of act one, Hirst's keepers (quasi-body guards) "vagabond cock" Foster and Briggs seek to fend off the self-insinuating Spooner, leading Hirst "''out of the room'' (52) and away from him. The act ends with a "Blackout" – visually demonstrating Foster's taunt: "Listen. You know what it's like when you're in a room with the light on and then suddenly the light goes out? I'll show you. It's like this. ... ''He turns the light out'' (53). |
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During Act Two, in his increasingly-inebriated state, Hirst may mistake or feign recognition of Spooner as a [[Oxbridge]] classmate from the 1930s, an apparently-false impression which Spooner nevertheless encourages (68–78), leading both of them into a series of increasingly-questionable reminiscences, which Hirst finally and abruptly undercuts: "This is outrageous! Who are you? What are you doing in my house?" going on to accuse Spooner with being an impostor: "You are clearly a lout. The Charles Wetherby I knew was a gentleman. I see a figure reduced. I am sorry for you. Where is the moral ardour that sustained you once? Gone down the hatch." – allusively and both wistfully and comically combining the clichés "Gone with the wind" with "Down the hatch," after which, Briggs "''enters, pours whisky and soda, gives it to''" Hirst, who "''looks at it''" and then says, "Down the hatch. Right down the hatch. (''He drinks''.)" (78). Hirst proclaims, "Let us change the subject. ''Pause''. For the last time." (91), but immediately asks, "What have I said?" That leads the characters to debate what Hirst's phrase ''for the last time'' precisely "means" (91–94), leaving all of them, according to Spooner, "in no man's land. Which never moves, which never changes, which never grows older, but which remains forever icy and silent." Following the illustrative "''Silence''", Hirst utters the play's final words and provides its final action: "I'll drink to that." and "''He drinks''," paralleling the opening words of the first act ("As it comes?"), and the play ends, ambiguously, with a "SLOW FADE" of lights (95). Spooner may appear to have failed in his apparent efforts to ingratiate himself with Hirst and to supplant Foster and Briggs in the household, but he still remains in the house at the end of the play, "in no man's land," along with Hirst (and Foster and Briggs). |
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==Production history== |
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The London première of ''No Man's Land'', directed by [[Peter Hall (director)|Peter Hall]], opened at the [[Old Vic Theatre]] (then home to the [[Royal National Theatre|National Theatre]]), on 24 April 1975, starring [[John Gielgud]] as Spooner and [[Ralph Richardson]] as Hirst and with [[Michael Feast]] as Foster and [[Terence Rigby]] as Briggs.<ref name=NMLNT>{{cite web|url=http://www.haroldpinter.org/plays/plays_nomansland.shtml|title=No Man's Land|publisher=HaroldPinter.org|accessdate=2008-10-09|quote=First produced at the Old Vic, Waterloo by the National Theatre, 23 April, 1975 transferred to Wyndhams Theatre July 1975 - January 1976 Lyttleton Theatre April -May 1976 - New York (see foreign) October - December 1976 Lytt[el]ton Theatre January -February 1977.}}</ref> It transferred to [[Wyndham's Theatre]], in London's [[West End theatre|West End]], on 15 July 2005 (Baker and Ross xxxiii). This production transferred to [[Broadway theatre|Broadway]], in [[New York City]], from October through December 1976, with Richardson winning the 1977 [[Tony Award for Best Performance by a Leading Actor in a Play]] for his performance as Hirst.<ref name=NMLTony>{{cite web|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/gallery/2008/oct/09/pinter.theatre?picture=338431755|title=No Man's Land (Richardson and Gielgud)|format=photograph|publisher=[[Guardian.co.uk]]|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> Peter Hall's production returned to the National Theatre (NT), playing at the [[National Theatre|Lyttelton Theatre]], from January through February 1977.<ref name=NMLNT/> The original production with Richardson and Gielgud was filmed for the [[National Theatre|National Theatre Archive]] and has been shown on British television as part of ''Pinter at the BBC'' on [[BBC Four]].<ref name=PinterBBC>{{cite web|url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/pinter/pinter-classics.shtml|title=No Man's Land|publisher=[[BBC Four]]|date=2002-10-26|accessdate=2008-10-10}} There is a related [[video clip]] of Pinter's official biographer [[Michael Billington (critic)|Michael Billington]] discussing the play as part of the online features relating to ''Pinter at the BBC'' (2:17).</ref> |
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(previous discussions have been moved to the new page) [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 20:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC) |
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A major revival at the [[Almeida Theatre]], London, directed by [[David Leveaux]], opened in February 1993, and starred [Paul Eddington]] as Spooner and Harold Pinter as Hirst; [[Douglas Hodge]] played Foster and [[Gawn Granger]] played Briggs.<ref name=NML1993>{{cite web|url=http://www.haroldpinter.org/plays/plays_nomansland4.shtml|title=No Man's Land – 1993|publisher=HaroldPinter.org|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> |
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In the [[Broadway Theatre|Broadway]] revival by the [[Roundabout Theatre Company]] directed by [[David Jones (director)|David Jones]], which opened on 27 February 1994 at the [[Criterion Theatre (New York)|Criterion Centre Stage Right Theatre]], in [[New York City]], [[Jason Robards]] played Hirst, and [[Christopher Plummer]], who was nominated for a [[Tony Award for Best Performance by a Leading Actor in a Play]], played Spooner; [[Thomas Mills Wood|Tom Wood]] and [[John Seitz (actor)|John Seitz]] played Foster and Briggs, respectively.<ref name=NMLUS94>{{cite web|url=http://www.haroldpinter.org/plays/frn_nomansland_us94.shtml|title=No Man's Land – Roundabout Theatre Company, Criterion Centre Stage Right, 27th January, 1994|publisher=HaroldPinter.org|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> |
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Proposals for Selected article can now be made at [[Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management of selected articles]], where those proposals from the discussions below that have not yet been used have been added. Selected articles should be of [[WP:GA|Good Article]] standard or above. Where articles are not yet of GA atandard it is proposed that an improvement drive be used to get them to the required standard. See [[Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management of selected articles|here]] for details. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 14:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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The current article proposed for improvement to GA standard and as the next Selected Article is [[Gilles Villeneuve]] - work should be completed by July 16. See the article [[talk:Gilles Villeneuve|talk page]] for details of the work required. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 14:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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In 2001, another major revival at the [[Royal National Theatre|NT]] was directed by Harold Pinter, with [[Corin Redgrave]] as Hirst, [[John Wood (English actor)|John Wood]] as Spooner, [[Danny Dyer]] as Foster, and [[Andy de la Tour]] as Briggs.<ref name=NML2001>{{cite web|url=http://www.haroldpinter.org/plays/plays_nomansland5.shtml|title=No Man's Land – 2001|publisher=HaroldPinter.org|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> |
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== Formula One Editing == |
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In the summer of 2008, a new production directed by [[Rupert Goold]] premièred at the [[Gate Theatre]], in [[Dublin]], with [[Michael Gambon]] (Hirst), [[David Bradley]] (Spooner), [[David Walliams]] (Foster), and [[Nick Dunning]] (Briggs); it transferred to the [[Duke of York's Theatre]], in the [[West End theatre|West End]], [[London]], opening on 7 October 2008.<ref name=NMLWOS>{{cite news|url=http://www.whatsonstage.com/index.php?pg=207&story=E8821223458228&title=No+Man's+Land|author=[[Michael Coveney]]|title=No Man's Land (Duke of York's)|date=2008-10-09|work=What's On Stage.com|accessdate=2008-10-09}}</ref> |
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It is becoming aparent that many of the articles on Formula One are starting to be updated at a high rate due to users adding speculation and unconfirmed news. Suggest putting all news and speculation in the news section of [[Portal:Formula One]] only. Articles such as [[2008 Formula One season]] should not really be used for speculation. The info here should only be confirmed info. [[Portal:Formula One]] can be used for day to day news and the other articles on Formula One should be kept for reference info only, not news. Anyone agree? [[User:MonkeyMumford|MonkeyMumford]] 12:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC) |
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==Critical reception== |
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In reviewing the London première, on 24 April 1975, [[Michael Billington (critic)|Michael Billington]], of ''[[The Guardian]]'', observes that the play is "about precisely what its title suggests: |
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<blockquote>the sense of being caught in some mysterious limbo between life and death, between a world of brute reality and one of fluid uncertainty. ... the play is a masterly summation of all the themes that have long obsessed Pinter: the fallibility of memory, the co-existence in one man of brute strength and sensitivity, the ultimate unknowability of women, the notion that all human contact is a battle between who and whom. ... It is in no sense a dry, mannerist work but a living, theatrical experience full of rich comedy in which one speech constantly undercuts another.<ref name=NMLNT/></blockquote> |
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Billington develops his comments on ''No Man's Land'' in his videotaped discussion for ''Pinter at the BBC'', broadcast on [[BBC Four]] television from 26 October through 9 November 2002, beginning with the genesis of the play in Pinter's biography and the significance of the titular phrase ''[[no man's land]]''.<ref name=Billingonvideo>{{cite web|url=http://web.archive.org/web/20021223085200/http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/pinter/video/nomansland.ram|author=[[Michael Billington (critic)|Michael Billington]]|title=No Man's Land (2:17)|work=Pinter at the BBC|format=[[RealMedia]] [[video clip]]|publisher=[[BBC Four]]|date=2002-12-23|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> |
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In his review of Goold's 2008 revival of the play at the [[Duke of York's Theatre]], [[Michael Coveney]], joined by many intervening and contemporaneous critics,<ref name=Espiner>{{cite news|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2008/oct/09/pinter.no.mans.land.reviews|author=Mark Espiner|title=What to say about ... No Man's Land|work=[[The Guardian]] (Stage)|publisher=[[Guardian.co.uk]]|date=2008-10-09|accessdate=2008-10-10|quote=Couldn't get to the revival of Pinter's classic but need to save face with your friends? Mark Espiner rounds up the reviews.}}</ref> is still asking: "Yes, but what does it all mean? [[Kenneth Tynan]] railed against the 'gratuitous obscurity' of Harold Pinter's poetic 1975 play when it was first produced by [[Peter Hall (director)|Peter Hall]] at the National starring [[John Gielgud]] as the supplicant versifier Spooner and [[Ralph Richardson]] as his host Hirst, patron and supporter of the arts. But the play is always gloriously enjoyable as an off-kilter [[vaudeville]] of friendship and dependency."<ref name=NMLWOS/> In the ''[[The Guardian]]'', Billington concludes that "This is a compelling revival much aided by [[Neil Austin]]'s lighting and [[Adam Cork]]'s subliminal sound," observing: "when audience and cast finally joined in applauding Pinter, [who was] seated in a box, I felt it was in recognition of an eerily disturbing play that transports us into a world somewhere between reality and dream."<ref name=Billington2008>{{cite news|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/stage/2008/oct/08/pinter|author=[[Michael Billington (critic)|Michael Billington]]|title=No Man's Land|work=[[The Guardian]] (Culture, Stage, Theatre)|publisher=[[Guardian.co.uk]]|date=2008-10-08|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> |
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'''SEE [[Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management_of_selected_articles|HERE]] FOR CURRENT PAGE FOR MANAGING THIS WORK - PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT FURTHER BELOW''' [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 14:38, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Both Billington and Paul Taylor (in ''[[The Independent]]'') give the production 4 out of 5 stars,<ref name=Billington2008/><ref name=Taylor>{{cite news|url=http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre/reviews/no-mans-land-duke-of-york-london-955395.html|author=[[Paul Taylor]]|title=No Man's Land, Duke of York, London|work=[[The Independent]]|publisher=Independent.co.uk|date=2008-10-09|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> while [[Charles Spencer (journalist)|Charles Spencer]], reviewing the production in ''[[The Daily Telegraph]]'', like other critics making inevitable comparisons with the original production, rates it as "equally fine, with [[Michael Gambon]] and [[David Bradley]] rising magnificently to the benchmark set by their illustrious predecessors," but points out that he too does not feel that he fully understands it: "Even after three decades I cannot claim fully to understand this haunting drama that proves by turns funny, scary, and resonantly poetic, but I have no doubt that it is one of the handful of indisputable modern classics that Pinter has written, and a piece that will haunt and tantalise the memory of all who see it."<ref name=Spencer>{{cite news|url=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/10/08/btpinter108.xml|author=[[Charles Spencer (journalist)|Charles Spencer]]|title=Review: No Man's Land|work=[[The Daily Telegraph]]|publisher=Telegraph.co.uk|date=2008-10-08|accessdate=2008-10-10}}</ref> |
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How about [[Giancarlo Fisichella]] for the next one? Topical and in fair condition. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 06:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC) |
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==Notes== |
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:Done [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 17:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC) |
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==References== |
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{{See main|Selected bibliography for Harold Pinter}} |
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*''Harold Pinter: A Bibliographical History''. Comp. William Baker and John C. Ross. London: [[British Library]], 2005. ISBN 9780712348850. New Castle, DE: Oak Knoll Press, 2005. ISBN 9781584561569. |
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*[[Pinter, Harold|Harold Pinter]]. ''No Man's Land''. London: [[Eyre Methuen]], 1975. New York: [[Grove Press]], 1975. (Quotations above come from the Grove Press edition.) |
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Just happened across the [[Mark Webber]] article, which looks very good. Suggest that this should be the next featured article. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 01:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC) |
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==External links== |
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{{See main|Harold Pinter#External links}} |
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*''[http://www.haroldpinter.org/plays/title_nomansland.shtml No Man's Land]'' – Official Webpage from the "Plays" section of HaroldPinter.org, the official Website of [[Harold Pinter]]. |
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*[http://web.archive.org/web/20021223085200/www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/pinter/pinter-video.shtml "No Man's Land"] – Hyperlinked [[BBC Four]] online feature for ''Pinter at the BBC'', with link to [[RealMedia]] player [[video clip]] of [[Michael Billington (critic)|Michael Billington]] discussing ''No Man's Land'' (2:17) [archived]. |
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*''[http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/gallery/2008/oct/09/pinter.theatre?picture=338403345 A Pinter Primer]'' – [[Guardian.co.uk]] photograph album (15 pictures), including some relating to ''No Man's Land''. |
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:Done. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 16:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC) |
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{{Pinter}} |
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So - what should the next Featured Article on the F1 portal be? Don't think we've got enough good articles to do this weekly, so perhaps monthly would be better for now. Who has a proposal for the next one (say for mid June?) [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 00:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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[[Category:Harold Pinter plays]] |
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[[Category:1974 plays]] |
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[[Category:British plays]] |
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Hmmm... obviously all articles wouldn't be worthy of this, but why not (during the season at least) make the featured article (assuming there can be more than one) the circuit of the weekend, a driver that may be from that circuit's locality, and his manufacturer? We'd have to avoid repeats, and drivers like Narain Karthekeyan (yes, he's out of a primary spot but it's the only one I could think of) would have to be presented at GPs that have no locals, like China. And if we're in an off week, we could do things like news (not how sure that'd work) or technology or controversial items (like Traction Control). Eh, they're just suggestions... [[User:Vegasrebel29|Vegasrebel29]] 03:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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[[it:Terra di nessuno (Pinter)]] |
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:I like Vegasrebel29's suggestion, but would also add notable previous races at a track also be included in the pool. F1 has a 50+ year history and some epic battles. And that history also includes constructors and drivers that are no longer around, but are definitely worth a look. Perhaps Team Lotus would be a good start. [[User:Scottanon|Scottanon]] 03:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::Featuring articles of past circuits, drivers and constructors would be ideal in my mind, as it would push F1's roots to the people, and they could learn where the sport has come from. This would all be down to the quality of articles covering the historical areas of F1. I will have a browse and see if I can find any articles that are up to scratch. [[User:Raider2044|<font color="#6666aa"><b>Raider<i>2044</i></b></font>]] ''<sup><font color="#8888aa">[[User:Raider2044/bio|Bio]] • [[User_talk:Raider2044|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raider2044|Contribs]]</font></sup>'' 04:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:If you're looking for former drivers, how about [[Masten Gregory]]? Not very well known but by all accounts very talented racer (got a podium on debut!)... I expanded this article a while ago, it could probably do with a cleanup but I think the basis is there. Also a few WDC articles could be fixed up to "selected article" status – [[Emerson Fittipaldi]], [[James Hunt]], [[Ayrton Senna]], [[Alain Prost]]... [[User:Albinomonkey|AlbinoMonkey]] <sup>([[User talk:Albinomonkey|Talk]])</sup> 04:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:::The "next event" section features the details on the next track. There is nothing to stop editors adding a summary of the event. This would leave the selected article box free for historic tracks etc. [[User:Mark83|Mark83]] 11:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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How about [[Damon Hill]]? I mean the last Englishman to win the F1 Championship must have some credit? Also the fact that all we need to do is just find sources for the article a nd an expansion here and there --[[User:Skully Collins|Skully Collins]] 06:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:I agree-Damon Hill is a suitable article, however, I think it needs cleaning up first. [[User:Flymeoutofhere|Flymeoutofhere]] 07:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Today, I would vote for '''Fernando Alonso''' because he is a world championship winner, one of todays best drivers and someone who is leaiding this years season. Also his article does not need any work doing to it.[[User:Flymeoutofhere|Flymeoutofhere]] 07:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::Been done already. [[User:Mark83|Mark83]] 11:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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On the note of featured drivers; does anyone think that it would be a good idea to feature every driver (from that season) during the season, and then 'legend' drivers in the months between seasons? [[User:Flymeoutofhere|Flymeoutofhere]] 07:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Since this weekend is also the Indy 500 weekend I would perhaps consider either [[Jacques Villeneuve]] or even better [[Juan Pablo Montoya]]. Now isnt the time but if anyone gets time to improve the Super Aguri article then I think that would be an excellent candidate. [[User:Jsydave|Jsydave]] 08:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Why don't you put [[Graham Hill]] up, because he won both the [[Indianapolis 500]] and the [[Monaco Grand Prix]]. [[User:Cs-wolves|Cs-wolves]] 09:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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How about [[Juan-Manuel Fangio]], [[Gilles Villeneuve]] or [[Ayrton Senna]]? I think, that they were the best... [[User:SpeedKing1980|SpeedKing1980]] 09:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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:The [[Gilles Villeneuve]] article is a pretty good one - how about it for featured article? [[User:Bretonbanquet|Bretonbanquet]] 21:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::Sounds like a strong candidate for featured article status. --<font style="background:gold">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">S</font>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</font><sup><font style="background:yellow">[[User talk:Siva1979|Talk to me]]</font></sup> 20:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC) |
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==Formatting suggestion for selected article voting== |
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'''SEE [[Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management_of_selected_articles|HERE]] FOR CURRENT PAGE FOR MANAGING THIS WORK - PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT FURTHER BELOW''' [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 14:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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* NB: Objections have been raised to calling such parts of Portals "Featured articles". The title used is "selected article" as the vast majority haven't been vetted to meet featured article status. |
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:Fair point - terminology issue on my part, I think! [[user:4u1e]] |
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===Damon Hill=== |
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How about [[Damon Hill]]? I mean the last Englishman to win the F1 Championship must have some credit? Also the fact that all we need to do is just find sources for the article a nd an expansion here and there --[[User:Skully Collins|Skully Collins]] 06:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC) |
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'''Support'''<br> |
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#[[User:Mark83|Mark83]] 11:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<br> |
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#[[user:4u1e|4u1e]] 13:36 26 May Fits with the suggestion that next week be a 'historical, technical, or other' week below (Does need some refs sorting though) |
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#[[User:Flymeoutofhere|Flymeoutofhere]] 13:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)<del>[[user:Flymeoutofhere|Flymeoutofhere]] (or said so above at least - hope it's not cheeky of me to put you in here! [[user:4u1e|4u1e]])</del> (no thats ok) |
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OK - D Hill is ahead on votes to date, but needs ''some'' work before it is used. I've put some suggestions on [[talk:Damon Hill]], feel free to tick them off! [[user:4u1e|4u1e]] 31 May 2006 (around lunchtime) |
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:Made some progress on this - but the article needs some proper references. Please help if you can :) [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 21:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::[[User:Skully Collins|Skully Collins]] and some others have done a lot of work to add references, so I've put Damon Hill in as the selected article from today (just in time for the British Grand Prix!). Thanks to all those who contributed. I can see I need to do some thinking about how better to manage this selected article thing, but I think we've got a good first result. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 21:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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===<strike>Team Lotus</strike>=== |
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<strike>[[Team Lotus]] was proposed by [[user:Scottanon|Scottanon]] above.</strike> |
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:On further review of the entry I withdraw the nomination. Needs to much work as it stands. Maybe I'll take a crack at it when all my home improvement stuff is done. [[User:Scottanon|Scottanon]] 20:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC) |
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===Masten Gregory=== |
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[[Masten Gregory]] was proposed by [[user:Albinomonkey|Albinomonkey]] above: "Not very well known but by all accounts very talented racer (got a podium on debut!)... I expanded this article a while ago, it could probably do with a cleanup but I think the basis is there." |
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===Jacques Villeneueve=== |
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[[Jacques Villeneuve]] was proposed by [[user:Jsydave|Jsydave]] above: "Since this weekend is also the Indy 500 weekend" |
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===Juan Pablo Montoya=== |
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[[Juan Pablo Montoya]] was proposed by [[user:Jsydave|Jsydave]] above: "Since this weekend is also the Indy 500 weekend" |
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===Graham Hill=== |
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[[Graham Hill]] was proposed by [[user:Cs-wolves|Cs-wolves]]:"because he won both the Indianapolis 500 and the Monaco Grand Prix" |
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he is also known as Hornet |
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===Juan Manuel Fangio=== |
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[[Juan Manuel Fangio]] was nominated by [[User:SpeedKing1980|SpeedKing1980]] above |
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===Gilles Villeneuve=== |
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[[Gilles Villeneuve]] was nominated by [[User:SpeedKing1980|SpeedKing1980]] above |
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'''Support'''<br> |
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#[[User:Bretonbanquet|Bretonbanquet]] 21:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC) (copied from comment above by [[user:4u1e|4u1e]]) |
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# --<font style="background:gold">[[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<font color="green">S</font>]][[User:Siva1979|iva1979]]</font><sup><font style="background:yellow">[[User talk:Siva1979|Talk to me]]</font></sup> 20:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC) (copied from comment above by [[user:4u1e|4u1e]]) |
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* Just my view, but it certainly needs references, and I think the structure needs tidying up. Not sure about the list of quotes, either. [[user:4u1e|4u1e]] |
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:* As Damon Hill has now been put on the F1 portal as the selected article, Gilles Villeneuve is next up. I've listed some stuff that probably needs doing at [[talk:Gilles Villeneuve]]. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 22:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC) |
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===Ayrton Senna=== |
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[[Ayrton Senna]] was nominated by [[User:SpeedKing1980|SpeedKing1980]] above |
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== So, how's this going to work then? == |
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'''SEE [[Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management_of_selected_articles|HERE]] FOR CURRENT PAGE FOR MANAGING THIS WORK - PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT FURTHER BELOW''' [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 14:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC) |
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Whoah - that's a lot of comments! |
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I think a lot of good ideas have been raised above, but I also think that we might struggle to implement all of them! |
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I suggest that for now, we see if we can cycle an article through every week. Based on suggestions from several people above, how about this: |
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:* In the week running up to a GP we have a contemporary article relevant to that GP (article on the track, relevant current driver, or currently in the news team). |
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:* In 'off' weeks, we have a historical, technical or some other type article, ideally with a connection to current events, but not essentially so. |
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We don't need to get too tied up in this, but there's a lot of F1 articles out there, so some kind of structure is useful. If everyone's happy with that, then, since it's a bit late to pick a current one ahead of Monaco (I for one am away over the weekend anyway), the question would be to select, and if necessary, upgrade an article for next week - so this would be a 'historical, technical or some other' to be substituted in by end of Monday, say. Why not use the voting format proposed above? |
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I'll be interested to see whether we can keep up a weekly update - don't forget to watch this page, cos I'm not going to keep updating your talk pages. [[user:4u1e]] 13:38 26 May |
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:This could be a very good way to promote a 'collaboration of the week/fortnight'-style project on WPF1, and at the end of the allotted time the improved article is featured on the portal? [[User:Albinomonkey|AlbinoMonkey]] <sup>([[User talk:Albinomonkey|Talk]])</sup> 13:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC) |
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We should create a new page for voting.--[[User:M Johnson|M Johnson]] <small>([[User talk:M Johnson|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/M Johnson|contribs]])</small> 07:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC) |
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Whoops - wasn't able to get to the box to actually access this page over the weekend at all (bank holiday in the UK as well). M Johnson has a good point, I'll set up a separate voting page when I get a minute (if anyone else wants to do it in the meantime, feel free!) Fair support for D Hill above, but doesn't have any refs yet! Anyone got some? [[user:4u1e|4u1e]] |
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:OK. I don't think doing a weekly update is realistic at present - not enough of the articles have references, so lets stick with the monthly at present. I'll come back and arrange a new page for voting, but the two articles with most support at present are [[Damon Hill]] and [[Gilles Villeneuve]], both are good, both need references. I can't help with D Hill, but I can probably do something on Villeneuve from the Gerald Donaldson biography. Let's work towards getting one or the other of those done for mid June. [[User:4u1e|4u1e]] 07:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC) |
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::Yeh weekly is too often probably, but I think the best way is to do something like the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive|Football Article Improvement Drive]], and at the end of each period (fortnight, month, etc) the article that was improved is used as the 'selected article'. In addition to helping us have more good-quality F1 articles, the fact it's selected will hopefully see more people helping with the improvement drive. Just a thought. (Meanwhile, [[Fittipaldi (constructor)]] is excellent work IMO!) [[User:Albinomonkey|AlbinoMonkey]] <sup>([[User talk:Albinomonkey|Talk]])</sup> 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Yeah, I think you're right. That's effectively what's happened with the D Hill article, but I think I need to focus a bit more on making the process work and not getting sucked into the work on the piece itself. I will get round to setting all this out in a neat process at some point! (In the meantime, if anyone wants to work on [[Gilles Villeneuve]] it's just sitting there waiting! [[user:4u1e|4u1e]] 20 June |
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== Motorsport Wiki == |
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If anyone is interested, there is a dedicated [[http://www.ten-tenths.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page Motorsport Wiki]] currently under development. Any contributions from wikipedians is very much apreciated! [[User:MonkeyMumford|MonkeyMumford]] 20:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==National Flags of Drivers== |
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Take a look at the little flag thingies besides the driver names at, say, the [[1973 United States Grand Prix]]. Look at Jody Scheckter. Shouldn't that be the flag of apartheid-era [[South Africa]]? {{unsigned|JCCyC}} |
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:Yes, it should be the flag that would have been flown at the time, had he finished on the poidium. -[[User:Slowpokeiv|slowpokeiv]] 02:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::It seems flags are only consistently used from about 1979 onwards. Before that, a few races have the flags (and those are the ones that have South Africa wrong) but most don't. I've fixed the one I mentioned and a few others. [[User:JCCyC|JCCyC]] 17:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC) |
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::DAMN, that flag is all over the place. Not only is there the occasional South African pay driver, but there's the result boxes when Scheckter achieved podium or pole position... argh. |
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::OK, I believe I got them all. [[User:JCCyC|JCCyC]] 21:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC) |
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==Community Portal== |
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This collaboration appears to be inactive so I am removing it from the community portal. If this becomes active again just add it back.--[[User:Banana04131|Banana]] 04:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Driver box? == |
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Apicella|Apicella]] · [[Mário de Araújo Cabral|de Araújo Cabral]] · [[Frank Armi|Armi]] · [[Chuck Arnold|Arnold]] · [[René Arnoux|Arnoux]] · [[Peter Arundell|Arundell]] · [[Alberto Ascari|Ascari]] · [[Peter Ashdown|Ashdown]] · [[Ian Ashley|Ashley]] · [[Gerry Ashmore|Ashmore]] · [[Bill Aston|Aston]] · [[Richard Attwood|Attwood]] · [[Manny Ayulo|Ayulo]] · [[Luca Badoer|Badoer]] · [[Giancarlo Baghetti|Baghetti]] · [[Julian Bailey|Bailey]] · [[Mauro Baldi|Baldi]] · [[Bobby Ball (auto racer)|Ball]] · [[Marcel Balsa|Balsa]] · [[Lorenzo Bandini|Bandini]] · [[Henry Banks|Banks]] · [[Fabrizio Barbazza|Barbazza]] · [[John Barber|John Barber]] · [[Skip Barber|Skip Barber]] · [[Paolo Barilla|Barilla]] · [[Rubens Barrichello|Barrichello]] · [[Michael Bartels|Bartels]] · [[Edgar Barth|Barth]] · [[Giorgio Bassi|Bassi]] · [[Erwin Bauer|Bauer]] · [[Zsolt Baumgartner|Baumgartner]] · [[Azdrubal Fontes Bayardo|Bayardo]] · [[Élie Bayol|Bayol]] · [[Carel Godin de Beaufort|de Beaufort]] · [[Don 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· [[Kevin Cogan|Cogan]] · [[Peter Collins|Peter Collins]] · [[Peter Collins (racing driver)|Peter Collins]] · [[Bernard Collomb|Collomb]] · [[Alberto Colombo|Colombo]] · [[Érik Comas|Comas]] · [[Franco Comotti|Comotti]] · [[George Connor (driver)|Connor]] · [[George Constantine|Constantine]] · [[John Cordts|Cordts]] · [[David Coulthard|Coulthard]] · [[Piers Courage|Courage]] · [[Chris Craft (racing driver)|Craft]] · [[Jim Crawford (driver)|Jim Crawford]] · [[Ray Crawford|Ray Crawford]] · [[Alberto Crespo|Crespo]] · [[Antonio Creus|Creus]] · [[John Crichton-Stuart, 7th Marquess of Bute|Crichton-Stuart]] · [[Larry Crockett|Crockett]] · [[Tony Crook|Crook]] · [[Art Cross|Cross]] · [[Geoff Crossley|Crossley]] · [[Adolfo Schwelm Cruz|Cruz]] · [[Cristiano da Matta|da Matta]] · [[Hernando da Silva Ramos|da Silva Ramos]] · [[Chuck Daigh|Daigh]] · [[Yannick Dalmas|Dalmas]] · [[Derek Daly|Daly]] · [[Christian Danner|Danner]] · [[Jorge Daponte|Daponte]] · [[Anthony Davidson|Davidson]] · [[Jimmy Davies|Davies]] · [[Colin Davis (driver)|Davis]] · [[Jimmy Daywalt|Daywalt]] · [[Jean-Denis Délétraz|Délétraz]] · [[Patrick Depailler|Depailler]] · [[Pedro Diniz|Diniz]] · [[Duke Dinsmore|Dinsmore]] · [[Frank Dochnal|Dochnal]] · [[José Dolhem|Dolhem]] · [[Martin Donnelly|Donnelly]] · [[Mark Donohue|Donohue]] · [[Robert Doornbos|Doornbos]] · [[Fritz d'Orey|d'Orey]] · [[Ken Downing|Downing]] · [[Bob Drake (Formula One)|Drake]] · [[Paddy Driver|Driver]] · [[Piero Drogo|Drogo]] · [[Bernard de Dryver|de Dryver]] · [[Len Duncan|Duncan]] · [[Piero Dusio|Dusio]] · [[George Eaton|Eaton]] · [[Bernie Ecclestone|Ecclestone]] · [[Don Edmunds|Edmunds]] · [[Guy Edwards|Edwards]] · [[Vic Elford|Elford]] · [[Ed Elisian|Elisian]] · [[Paul Emery|Emery]] · [[Tomáš Enge|Enge]] · [[Paul England|England]] · [[Harald Ertl|Ertl]] · [[Nasif Estéfano|Estéfano]] · [[Philippe Étancelin|Étancelin]] · [[Bob Evans (race driver)|Evans]] · [[Corrado Fabi|Corrado Fabi]] · [[Teo Fabi|Teo Fabi]] · [[Pascal Fabre|Fabre]] · [[Carlo Facetti|Facetti]] · [[Luigi Fagioli|Fagioli]] · [[Jack Fairman|Fairman]] · [[Juan Manuel Fangio|Fangio]] · [[Giuseppe Farina|Giuseppe Farina]] · [[Nino Farina|Nino Farina]] · [[Walt Faulkner|Faulkner]] · [[William Ferguson (driver)|Ferguson]] · [[Ralph Firman|Firman]] · [[Ludwig Fischer (racing driver)|Ludwig Fischer]] · [[Rudi Fischer|Rudi Fischer]] · [[Mike Fisher (driver)|Fisher]] · [[Giancarlo Fisichella|Fisichella]] · [[John Fitch (driver)|Fitch]] · [[Christian Fittipaldi|Christian Fittipaldi]] · [[Emerson Fittipaldi|Emerson Fittipaldi]] · [[Wilson Fittipaldi Júnior|Fittipaldi Júnior]] · [[Theo Fitzau|Fitzau]] · [[Pat Flaherty|Flaherty]] · [[Jan Flinterman|Flinterman]] · [[Ron Flockhart (auto racing)|Flockhart]] · [[Myron Fohr|Fohr]] · [[Gregor Foitek|Foitek]] · [[George Follmer|Follmer]] · [[George Fonder|Fonder]] · [[Norberto Fontana|Fontana]] · [[Carl Forberg|Forberg]] · [[Gene Force|Force]] · [[Franco Forini|Forini]] · [[Philip Fotheringham-Parker|Fotheringham-Parker]] · [[A. J. Foyt|Foyt]] · [[Giorgio Francia|Francia]] · [[Don Freeland|Freeland]] · [[Heinz-Harald Frentzen|Frentzen]] · [[Paul Frère|Frère]] · [[Patrick Friesacher|Friesacher]] · [[Joe Fry|Fry]] · [[Hiroshi Fushida|Fushida]] · [[Beppe Gabbiani|Gabbiani]] · [[Bertrand Gachot|Gachot]] · [[Patrick Gaillard|Gaillard]] · [[Divina Galica|Galica]] · [[Nanni Galli|Galli]] · [[Fred Gamble|Gamble]] · [[Howden Ganley|Ganley]] · [[Frank Gardner (driver)|Gardner]] · [[Billy Garrett|Garrett]] · [[Jo Gartner|Gartner]] · [[Tony Gaze|Gaze]] · [[Geki (driver)|Geki]] · [[Olivier Gendebien|Gendebien]] · [[Marc Gené|Gené]] · [[Elmer George|George]] · [[Bob Gerard|Gerard]] · [[Gerino Gerini|Gerini]] · [[Peter Gethin|Gethin]] · [[Piercarlo Ghinzani|Ghinzani]] · [[Bruno Giacomelli|Giacomelli]] · [[Dick Gibson|Gibson]] · [[Gimax|Gimax]] · [[Richie Ginther|Ginther]] · [[Yves Giraud-Cabantous|Giraud-Cabantous]] · [[Ignazio Giunti|Giunti]] · [[Timo Glock|Glock]] · [[Helm Glöckler|Glöckler]] · [[Paco Godia|Godia]] · [[Christian Goethals|Goethals]] · [[Paul Goldsmith|Goldsmith]] · [[José Froilán González|José Froilán González]] · [[Oscar González|Oscar González]] · [[Aldo Gordini|Gordini]] · [[Horace Gould|Gould]] · [[Jean-Marc Gounon|Gounon]] · [[Toulo de Graffenried|de Graffenried]] · [[Cecil Green|Green]] · [[Keith Greene|Greene]] · [[Masten Gregory|Gregory]] · [[Cliff Griffith|Griffith]] · [[Georges Grignard|Grignard]] · [[Bobby Grim|Grim]] · [[Olivier Grouillard|Grouillard]] · [[Brian Gubby|Gubby]] · [[André Guelfi|Guelfi]] · [[Roberto Guerrero|Guerrero]] · [[Mauricio Gugelmin|Gugelmin]] · [[Dan Gurney|Gurney]] · [[Hubert Hahne|Hahne]] · [[Mike Hailwood|Hailwood]] · [[Mika Häkkinen|Häkkinen]] · [[Bruce Halford|Halford]] · [[Jim Hall (race car driver)|Hall]] · [[Duncan Hamilton (racing driver)|Duncan Hamilton]] · [[Lewis Hamilton|Lewis Hamilton]] · [[David Hampshire|Hampshire]] · [[Sam Hanks|Hanks]] · [[Walt Hansgen|Hansgen]] · [[Mike Harris (race car driver)|Harris]] · [[Cuth Harrison|Harrison]] · [[Brian Hart|Hart]] · [[Gene Hartley|Hartley]] · [[Masahiro Hasemi|Hasemi]] · [[Naoki Hattori|Hattori]] · [[Paul Hawkins (racing driver)|Hawkins]] · [[Mike Hawthorn|Hawthorn]] · [[Boy Hayje|Hayje]] · [[Willi Heeks|Heeks]] · [[Nick Heidfeld|Heidfeld]] · [[Theo Helfrich|Helfrich]] · [[Mack Hellings|Hellings]] · [[Brian Henton|Henton]] · [[Johnny Herbert|Herbert]] · [[Al Herman|Herman]] · [[Hans Herrmann|Herrmann]] · [[François Hesnault|Hesnault]] · [[Hans Heyer|Heyer]] · [[Damon Hill|Damon Hill]] · [[Graham Hill|Graham Hill]] · [[Phil Hill|Phil Hill]] · [[Peter Hirt|Hirt]] · [[David Hobbs|Hobbs]] · [[Ingo Hoffmann|Hoffmann]] · [[Bill Holland|Holland]] · [[Jackie Holmes|Holmes]] · [[Bill Homeier|Homeier]] · [[Kazuyoshi Hoshino|Hoshino]] · [[Jerry Hoyt|Hoyt]] · [[Denny Hulme|Hulme]] · [[James Hunt|Hunt]] · [[Jim Hurtubise|Hurtubise]] · [[Gus Hutchison|Hutchison]] · [[Jacky Ickx|Ickx]] · [[Yuji Ide|Ide]] · [[Jesús Iglesias|Iglesias]] · [[Taki Inoue|Inoue]] · [[Innes Ireland|Ireland]] · [[Eddie Irvine|Irvine]] · [[Chris Irwin|Irwin]] · [[Jean-Pierre Jabouille|Jabouille]] · [[Jimmy Jackson (driver)|Jackson]] · [[Joe James|Joe James]] · [[John James (auto racer)|John James]] · [[Jean-Pierre Jarier|Jarier]] · [[Jyrki Järvilehto|Järvilehto]] · [[Max Jean|Jean]] · [[Stefan Johansson|Johansson]] · [[Eddie Johnson (auto racer)|Eddie Johnson]] · [[Leslie Johnson|Leslie Johnson]] · [[Bruce Johnstone|Johnstone]] · [[Alan Jones (Formula 1)|Alan Jones]] · [[Tom Jones (auto racer)|Tom Jones]] · [[Juan Jover|Jover]] · [[Oswald Karch|Karch]] · [[Narain Karthikeyan|Karthikeyan]] · [[Ukyo Katayama|Katayama]] · [[Ken Kavanagh|Kavanagh]] · [[Rupert Keegan|Keegan]] · [[Eddie Keizan|Keizan]] · [[Al Keller|Keller]] · [[Joe Kelly (Formula One)|Kelly]] · [[Dave Kennedy|Kennedy]] · [[Loris Kessel|Kessel]] · [[Bruce Kessler|Kessler]] · [[Nicolas Kiesa|Kiesa]] · [[Leo Kinnunen|Kinnunen]] · [[Danny Kladis|Kladis]] · [[Hans Klenk|Klenk]] · [[Peter de Klerk|de Klerk]] · [[Christian Klien|Klien]] · [[Karl Kling|Kling]] · [[Ernst Klodwig|Klodwig]] · [[Helmut Koinigg|Koinigg]] · [[Heikki Kovalainen|Kovalainen]] · [[Mikko Kozarowitzky|Kozarowitzky]] · [[Willi Krakau|Krakau]] · [[Rudolf Krause|Krause]] · [[Robert Kubica|Kubica]] · [[Kurt Kuhnke|Kuhnke]] · [[Masami Kuwashima|Kuwashima]] · [[Robert La Caze|La Caze]] · [[Jacques Laffite|Laffite]] · [[Franck Lagorce|Lagorce]] · [[Jan Lammers|Lammers]] · [[Pedro Lamy|Lamy]] · [[Chico Landi|Landi]] · [[Hermann Lang|Lang]] · [[Claudio Langes|Langes]] · [[Fastest lap|lap]] · [[Nicola Larini|Larini]] · [[Oscar Larrauri|Larrauri]] · [[Alberto Rodriguez Larreta|Larreta]] · [[Gérard Larrousse|Larrousse]] · [[Jud Larson|Larson]] · [[Niki Lauda|Lauda]] · [[Roger Laurent|Laurent]] · [[Giovanni Lavaggi|Lavaggi]] · [[Chris Lawrence|Lawrence]] · [[Michel Leclère|Leclère]] · [[Neville Lederle|Lederle]] · [[Geoff Lees|Lees]] · [[Arthur Legat|Legat]] · [[Lamberto Leoni|Leoni]] · [[Les Leston|Leston]] · [[Pierre Levegh|Levegh]] 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driver)|Vic Wilson]] · [[Joachim Winkelhock|Joachim Winkelhock]] · [[Manfred Winkelhock|Manfred Winkelhock]] · [[Markus Winkelhock|Markus Winkelhock]] · [[Reine Wisell|Wisell]] · [[Roelof Wunderink|Wunderink]] · [[Alexander Wurz|Wurz]] · [[Sakon Yamamoto|Yamamoto]] · [[Alex Yoong|Yoong]] · [[Alex Zanardi|Zanardi]] · [[Emilio Zapico|Zapico]] · [[Ricardo Zonta|Zonta]] · [[Renzo Zorzi|Zorzi]] · [[Ricardo Zuniño|Zuniño]] |
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What do people think of having a collapsible box like the one above on the portal containing F1 drivers? I was thinking of placing it at the bottom as a full-width box, just above "other portals".... any thoughts/comments/suggestions? [[User:Tompw|Tom<small>pw</small>]] ([[User talk:Tompw|talk]]) <small>([[Wikipedia:Editor review/Tompw|review]])</small> 11:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC) |
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I've just created the selected article page for this month using the [[1995 Japanese Grand Prix]] article (the most recent F1 [[WP:GA|GA]]), but the portal itself has not updated, still showing a redlink. Is anyone else having the same problem?--<font face="Forte">[[User:Diniz|<span style="color:#FFFF00;background:black">Diniz</span>]][[User talk:Diniz|<span style="color:#000000;background:yellow">(talk)</span>]]</font> 13:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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:Ah, it's resolved itself now.--<font face="Forte">[[User:Diniz|<span style="color:#FFFF00;background:black">Diniz</span>]][[User talk:Diniz|<span style="color:#000000;background:yellow">(talk)</span>]]</font> 13:53, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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== Fed up with inaccurate turn numbering on circuit diagrams == |
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The Hungaroring circuit diagram presented on the portal at the moment is yet another diagram on Wikipedia with turns numbered that aren't even considered turns according to The FIA website or the Official Formula 1 website or any of the teams or drivers when they talk about the circuit. In this case 'turns' 2 and 5 on the diagram should just be kinks, bringing the total number of turns down to 14. |
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I would gladly correct the image in question but every time I've tried to correct images before they get deleted for incorrect licensing or whatever (it is not clear what license the image should be put under when it is a modified version of an image already found on Wikipedia - and whenever I select the option to request an admin etc. to check the image and choose the appropriate license, the lazy buggers just delete it without any recommendation of what license it should be put under so it can stay). |
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Thanks in advance to anyone who does something about this. |
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F1 rules, inaccurate circuit diagrams suck! [[User:SirJibby|SirJibby]] ([[User talk:SirJibby|talk]]) 11:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:I've copied this section to [[WT:F1]] for increased visibility. [[User:DH85868993|DH85868993]] ([[User talk:DH85868993|talk]]) 15:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC) |
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Portal Management
To anyone who comes across this portal: please feel free to help out! These are my suggestions for rotations and whatnot:
- News should be updated continuously, but not all "paddock rumors" or driver comments need be noted; only significant things such as driver changes, a blurb on the result of each race, etc. Each item should have an external source, and the link to the subject of the item should be in bold.
- Rotate the Featured Article and Featured Picture once a week, but maybe at different times of the week - one on Saturdays and the other on Wednesdays, perhaps. Selections should be decided here beforehand; only freely-licensed pictures should be eligible for featuring.
- The preview for the next race should be changed immediately after a race finishes, and may be updated until the event with relevant news, comments, etc.
- Standings should (obviously) be updated immediately after every race.
- Are there enough new F1 articles and interesting F1 facts to justify a "Did you know" box?
Comments? — Dan|Talk 15:13, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
There're plenty enough 'Did you know?' facts to keep turning those over. Although some of the 'facts' on the F1 pages need checking before they are used! See below for a suggestion on storing them somewhere so this can be done easily. How is this done for the Wikipedia front page?
Good articles might be in shorter supply - but as a starter, how about replacing the McLaren item with the Renault article, which seems to be in quite a good state? 4u1e 8 March 06
Did you know?
'Did you knows' are circulated from the list at Portal:Formula One/Did you know (management) every Wednesday. If this has not been done, please feel free to take one from that list and substitute it for the top one from the list here.
If you have an F1 'Did you know' then please add it to the list here. All contributions are gratefully received!
(previous discussions have been moved to the new page) 4u1e 20:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Suggestions for selected Article:
Proposals for Selected article can now be made at Portal_talk:Formula_One/Management of selected articles, where those proposals from the discussions below that have not yet been used have been added. Selected articles should be of Good Article standard or above. Where articles are not yet of GA atandard it is proposed that an improvement drive be used to get them to the required standard. See here for details. 4u1e 14:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
The current article proposed for improvement to GA standard and as the next Selected Article is Gilles Villeneuve - work should be completed by July 16. See the article talk page for details of the work required. 4u1e 14:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Formula One Editing
It is becoming aparent that many of the articles on Formula One are starting to be updated at a high rate due to users adding speculation and unconfirmed news. Suggest putting all news and speculation in the news section of Portal:Formula One only. Articles such as 2008 Formula One season should not really be used for speculation. The info here should only be confirmed info. Portal:Formula One can be used for day to day news and the other articles on Formula One should be kept for reference info only, not news. Anyone agree? MonkeyMumford 12:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Suggestions for selected Article:
SEE HERE FOR CURRENT PAGE FOR MANAGING THIS WORK - PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT FURTHER BELOW 4u1e 14:38, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
How about Giancarlo Fisichella for the next one? Topical and in fair condition. 4u1e 06:54, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Done 4u1e 17:43, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Just happened across the Mark Webber article, which looks very good. Suggest that this should be the next featured article. 4u1e 01:13, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- Done. 4u1e 16:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
So - what should the next Featured Article on the F1 portal be? Don't think we've got enough good articles to do this weekly, so perhaps monthly would be better for now. Who has a proposal for the next one (say for mid June?) 4u1e 00:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm... obviously all articles wouldn't be worthy of this, but why not (during the season at least) make the featured article (assuming there can be more than one) the circuit of the weekend, a driver that may be from that circuit's locality, and his manufacturer? We'd have to avoid repeats, and drivers like Narain Karthekeyan (yes, he's out of a primary spot but it's the only one I could think of) would have to be presented at GPs that have no locals, like China. And if we're in an off week, we could do things like news (not how sure that'd work) or technology or controversial items (like Traction Control). Eh, they're just suggestions... Vegasrebel29 03:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- I like Vegasrebel29's suggestion, but would also add notable previous races at a track also be included in the pool. F1 has a 50+ year history and some epic battles. And that history also includes constructors and drivers that are no longer around, but are definitely worth a look. Perhaps Team Lotus would be a good start. Scottanon 03:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Featuring articles of past circuits, drivers and constructors would be ideal in my mind, as it would push F1's roots to the people, and they could learn where the sport has come from. This would all be down to the quality of articles covering the historical areas of F1. I will have a browse and see if I can find any articles that are up to scratch. Raider2044 Bio • Talk • Contribs 04:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- If you're looking for former drivers, how about Masten Gregory? Not very well known but by all accounts very talented racer (got a podium on debut!)... I expanded this article a while ago, it could probably do with a cleanup but I think the basis is there. Also a few WDC articles could be fixed up to "selected article" status – Emerson Fittipaldi, James Hunt, Ayrton Senna, Alain Prost... AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 04:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The "next event" section features the details on the next track. There is nothing to stop editors adding a summary of the event. This would leave the selected article box free for historic tracks etc. Mark83 11:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
How about Damon Hill? I mean the last Englishman to win the F1 Championship must have some credit? Also the fact that all we need to do is just find sources for the article a nd an expansion here and there --Skully Collins 06:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- I agree-Damon Hill is a suitable article, however, I think it needs cleaning up first. Flymeoutofhere 07:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Today, I would vote for Fernando Alonso because he is a world championship winner, one of todays best drivers and someone who is leaiding this years season. Also his article does not need any work doing to it.Flymeoutofhere 07:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Been done already. Mark83 11:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
On the note of featured drivers; does anyone think that it would be a good idea to feature every driver (from that season) during the season, and then 'legend' drivers in the months between seasons? Flymeoutofhere 07:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Since this weekend is also the Indy 500 weekend I would perhaps consider either Jacques Villeneuve or even better Juan Pablo Montoya. Now isnt the time but if anyone gets time to improve the Super Aguri article then I think that would be an excellent candidate. Jsydave 08:15, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Why don't you put Graham Hill up, because he won both the Indianapolis 500 and the Monaco Grand Prix. Cs-wolves 09:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
How about Juan-Manuel Fangio, Gilles Villeneuve or Ayrton Senna? I think, that they were the best... SpeedKing1980 09:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The Gilles Villeneuve article is a pretty good one - how about it for featured article? Bretonbanquet 21:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds like a strong candidate for featured article status. --Siva1979Talk to me 20:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
Formatting suggestion for selected article voting
SEE HERE FOR CURRENT PAGE FOR MANAGING THIS WORK - PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT FURTHER BELOW 4u1e 14:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
- NB: Objections have been raised to calling such parts of Portals "Featured articles". The title used is "selected article" as the vast majority haven't been vetted to meet featured article status.
- Fair point - terminology issue on my part, I think! user:4u1e
Damon Hill
How about Damon Hill? I mean the last Englishman to win the F1 Championship must have some credit? Also the fact that all we need to do is just find sources for the article a nd an expansion here and there --Skully Collins 06:21, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Support
- Mark83 11:26, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- 4u1e 13:36 26 May Fits with the suggestion that next week be a 'historical, technical, or other' week below (Does need some refs sorting though)
- Flymeoutofhere 13:29, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Flymeoutofhere (or said so above at least - hope it's not cheeky of me to put you in here! 4u1e)(no thats ok)
OK - D Hill is ahead on votes to date, but needs some work before it is used. I've put some suggestions on talk:Damon Hill, feel free to tick them off! 4u1e 31 May 2006 (around lunchtime)
- Made some progress on this - but the article needs some proper references. Please help if you can :) 4u1e 21:05, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Skully Collins and some others have done a lot of work to add references, so I've put Damon Hill in as the selected article from today (just in time for the British Grand Prix!). Thanks to all those who contributed. I can see I need to do some thinking about how better to manage this selected article thing, but I think we've got a good first result. 4u1e 21:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Team Lotus
Team Lotus was proposed by Scottanon above.
- On further review of the entry I withdraw the nomination. Needs to much work as it stands. Maybe I'll take a crack at it when all my home improvement stuff is done. Scottanon 20:52, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
Masten Gregory
Masten Gregory was proposed by Albinomonkey above: "Not very well known but by all accounts very talented racer (got a podium on debut!)... I expanded this article a while ago, it could probably do with a cleanup but I think the basis is there."
Jacques Villeneueve
Jacques Villeneuve was proposed by Jsydave above: "Since this weekend is also the Indy 500 weekend"
Juan Pablo Montoya
Juan Pablo Montoya was proposed by Jsydave above: "Since this weekend is also the Indy 500 weekend"
Graham Hill
Graham Hill was proposed by Cs-wolves:"because he won both the Indianapolis 500 and the Monaco Grand Prix" he is also known as Hornet
Juan Manuel Fangio
Juan Manuel Fangio was nominated by SpeedKing1980 above
Gilles Villeneuve
Gilles Villeneuve was nominated by SpeedKing1980 above
Support
- Bretonbanquet 21:34, 26 May 2006 (UTC) (copied from comment above by 4u1e)
- --Siva1979Talk to me 20:35, 27 May 2006 (UTC) (copied from comment above by 4u1e)
- Just my view, but it certainly needs references, and I think the structure needs tidying up. Not sure about the list of quotes, either. 4u1e
- As Damon Hill has now been put on the F1 portal as the selected article, Gilles Villeneuve is next up. I've listed some stuff that probably needs doing at talk:Gilles Villeneuve. 4u1e 22:01, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Ayrton Senna
Ayrton Senna was nominated by SpeedKing1980 above
So, how's this going to work then?
SEE HERE FOR CURRENT PAGE FOR MANAGING THIS WORK - PLEASE DO NOT COMMENT FURTHER BELOW 4u1e 14:39, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Whoah - that's a lot of comments!
I think a lot of good ideas have been raised above, but I also think that we might struggle to implement all of them!
I suggest that for now, we see if we can cycle an article through every week. Based on suggestions from several people above, how about this:
- In the week running up to a GP we have a contemporary article relevant to that GP (article on the track, relevant current driver, or currently in the news team).
- In 'off' weeks, we have a historical, technical or some other type article, ideally with a connection to current events, but not essentially so.
We don't need to get too tied up in this, but there's a lot of F1 articles out there, so some kind of structure is useful. If everyone's happy with that, then, since it's a bit late to pick a current one ahead of Monaco (I for one am away over the weekend anyway), the question would be to select, and if necessary, upgrade an article for next week - so this would be a 'historical, technical or some other' to be substituted in by end of Monday, say. Why not use the voting format proposed above?
I'll be interested to see whether we can keep up a weekly update - don't forget to watch this page, cos I'm not going to keep updating your talk pages. user:4u1e 13:38 26 May
- This could be a very good way to promote a 'collaboration of the week/fortnight'-style project on WPF1, and at the end of the allotted time the improved article is featured on the portal? AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 13:16, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
We should create a new page for voting.--M Johnson (talk • contribs) 07:44, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Whoops - wasn't able to get to the box to actually access this page over the weekend at all (bank holiday in the UK as well). M Johnson has a good point, I'll set up a separate voting page when I get a minute (if anyone else wants to do it in the meantime, feel free!) Fair support for D Hill above, but doesn't have any refs yet! Anyone got some? 4u1e
- OK. I don't think doing a weekly update is realistic at present - not enough of the articles have references, so lets stick with the monthly at present. I'll come back and arrange a new page for voting, but the two articles with most support at present are Damon Hill and Gilles Villeneuve, both are good, both need references. I can't help with D Hill, but I can probably do something on Villeneuve from the Gerald Donaldson biography. Let's work towards getting one or the other of those done for mid June. 4u1e 07:14, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yeh weekly is too often probably, but I think the best way is to do something like the Football Article Improvement Drive, and at the end of each period (fortnight, month, etc) the article that was improved is used as the 'selected article'. In addition to helping us have more good-quality F1 articles, the fact it's selected will hopefully see more people helping with the improvement drive. Just a thought. (Meanwhile, Fittipaldi (constructor) is excellent work IMO!) AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 03:38, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think you're right. That's effectively what's happened with the D Hill article, but I think I need to focus a bit more on making the process work and not getting sucked into the work on the piece itself. I will get round to setting all this out in a neat process at some point! (In the meantime, if anyone wants to work on Gilles Villeneuve it's just sitting there waiting! 4u1e 20 June
Motorsport Wiki
If anyone is interested, there is a dedicated [Motorsport Wiki] currently under development. Any contributions from wikipedians is very much apreciated! MonkeyMumford 20:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
National Flags of Drivers
Take a look at the little flag thingies besides the driver names at, say, the 1973 United States Grand Prix. Look at Jody Scheckter. Shouldn't that be the flag of apartheid-era South Africa? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JCCyC (talk • contribs)
- Yes, it should be the flag that would have been flown at the time, had he finished on the poidium. -slowpokeiv 02:41, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- It seems flags are only consistently used from about 1979 onwards. Before that, a few races have the flags (and those are the ones that have South Africa wrong) but most don't. I've fixed the one I mentioned and a few others. JCCyC 17:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
- DAMN, that flag is all over the place. Not only is there the occasional South African pay driver, but there's the result boxes when Scheckter achieved podium or pole position... argh.
- OK, I believe I got them all. JCCyC 21:03, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Community Portal
This collaboration appears to be inactive so I am removing it from the community portal. If this becomes active again just add it back.--Banana 04:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Driver box?
What do people think of having a collapsible box like the one above on the portal containing F1 drivers? I was thinking of placing it at the bottom as a full-width box, just above "other portals".... any thoughts/comments/suggestions? Tompw (talk) (review) 11:53, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
Selected article
I've just created the selected article page for this month using the 1995 Japanese Grand Prix article (the most recent F1 GA), but the portal itself has not updated, still showing a redlink. Is anyone else having the same problem?--Diniz(talk) 13:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
Fed up with inaccurate turn numbering on circuit diagrams
The Hungaroring circuit diagram presented on the portal at the moment is yet another diagram on Wikipedia with turns numbered that aren't even considered turns according to The FIA website or the Official Formula 1 website or any of the teams or drivers when they talk about the circuit. In this case 'turns' 2 and 5 on the diagram should just be kinks, bringing the total number of turns down to 14.
I would gladly correct the image in question but every time I've tried to correct images before they get deleted for incorrect licensing or whatever (it is not clear what license the image should be put under when it is a modified version of an image already found on Wikipedia - and whenever I select the option to request an admin etc. to check the image and choose the appropriate license, the lazy buggers just delete it without any recommendation of what license it should be put under so it can stay).
Thanks in advance to anyone who does something about this.
F1 rules, inaccurate circuit diagrams suck! SirJibby (talk) 11:33, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've copied this section to WT:F1 for increased visibility. DH85868993 (talk) 15:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)